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Speaker 1: Wake up, it's sleeper time. Let's talk to the pros.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Baseball Podcast, and this is me be Joey b Jopi's And

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Speaker 1: today we're continuing our onslaught of all teams.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: We had our all Breakout team yesterday with Erl Cone.

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Speaker 1: Then we had our All Bus team which was very

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Speaker 1: depressing with Jason Collette. But today we've got one of

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Speaker 1: the greats, a legitimate journalist with us, the one, the only,

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Speaker 1: Steve Gardner from USA today to help us do the

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Speaker 1: all Sleeper team. And Steve Gardner, you and I mean legitimate,

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Speaker 1: like you vote for the Hall of Fame. It's been

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Speaker 1: year three of you doing that. I feel like when

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Speaker 1: you got that ability, it was like something for all

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Speaker 1: of us all of a sudden, we can vicariously live

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Speaker 1: through you after.

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Speaker 2: All these years.

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Speaker 1: So I want to know who made your ballot for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two slash twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Who was on there? Who'd you vote for?

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Speaker 3: Well? I liked I'm a big Hall guy. I didn't

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Speaker 3: think I was going to be until I actually had

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Speaker 3: the vote and the ballot in my hand. But I

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Speaker 3: voted for nine ten This year, I voted for seven.

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Speaker 3: I believe Scott Roland for one. Congratulations to him. Uh

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Speaker 3: Todd Helton might make it in this next year. I

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Speaker 3: voted for him, voted for Billy Wagner, voted for Andrew Jones,

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Speaker 3: Gary Sheffield, Carlos Beltron first year on the ballot, and

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Speaker 3: also Jimmy Rollins. So those were my guys, and I

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Speaker 3: felt pretty good about it. Not not going to get

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Speaker 3: into the mix with Alex Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez, those

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Speaker 3: guys just because they they failed their drug test. And

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Speaker 3: if you do that, you know now that Major League

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Speaker 3: Baseball has been testing for that for a long long time.

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Speaker 3: That's that's kind of a disqualifier for me. And so

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Speaker 3: that's that's kind of how my mindset.

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Speaker 2: Was, and and that is absolutely fair. Welsh knows. I

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Speaker 2: can't get enough with the steroid era of baseball. I

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Speaker 2: wanted all day long. I want those guys all back.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, just monitor everybody, just you know, grandma falls down,

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Speaker 1: breaks or hip they give us steroids.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just saying.

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Speaker 4: Maybe too, I think that's a I would say that.

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Speaker 5: I do think you I'm getting part of it.

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Speaker 4: But I think that's one of the problems with baseball though,

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Speaker 4: is like Steve, you can have that opinion, and I

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Speaker 4: think a lot of people share that, but then there's

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Speaker 4: literally the exact opposite opinions, and I think having that

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Speaker 4: big of a gap and that Baseball can't step in

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Speaker 4: and figure out and just be like, hey, you need

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Speaker 4: you can't consider this or you like, I think this

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Speaker 4: is what makes this whole thing messy because there are

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Speaker 4: because I don't personally agree, I go on, the stats

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Speaker 4: are going, the players there might have been cheating. There

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Speaker 4: was cheating in the seventies in different ways and stuff

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Speaker 4: like that. So to me, it's a non factor. But

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Speaker 4: like that baseball doesn't come in and step in and

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Speaker 4: try to.

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Speaker 5: Get this fixed.

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Speaker 4: It kind of stinks because then you know you're everyone's

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Speaker 4: put in a weird situation. Like see, if you're putting

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Speaker 4: a weird situation, especially if someone wants to do like

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Speaker 4: a gotcha with the steroid guys.

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Speaker 5: You just have the perfec argument.

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Speaker 4: But it's like you and the next Hall of Fame

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Speaker 4: writer who's voting could have completely different ideological reasons.

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Speaker 2: But push it off to the piers.

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Speaker 1: Now, like I think that's it, right, You're sort of

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Speaker 1: you're you're allowing now the players that they played with

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Speaker 1: to vote them in, and I think that is a.

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Speaker 2: Perfectly good way of doing it.

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Speaker 1: Also, I mean, I don't think we're gonna get this

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Speaker 1: deep into the Hall of face up, but I love

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Speaker 1: I can talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 2: It's the players of their era, you know.

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Speaker 3: Before the testing, you know, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens. I'm

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Speaker 3: perfectly fine with those guys and was perfectly fine until

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Speaker 3: they dropped off the ballot. It's just that once major

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Speaker 3: League Baseball finally took a stand, you know, and Bud

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Speaker 3: Selig wasn't just saying go ahead, I don't see anything.

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Speaker 3: We're making lots of money, you know, once you have

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Speaker 3: the testing and people test positive. That to me is

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness, Steve Gardner voice of reason.

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Speaker 4: Too, because I don't think I knew that, Steve, that

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Speaker 4: that's what your stance was on those guys, because you

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Speaker 4: just I think it's really important that you differentiated those

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Speaker 4: of that in together makes a lot of sense, makes

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Speaker 3: I don't have a line somewhere, and that's where I

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Speaker 3: I try and stay consistent, and that that's what you

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Speaker 3: want if you're, you know, listening to people's arguments as

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Speaker 3: long as they don't you know, go all over the

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Speaker 3: place and say it's it's good this way and bad

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Speaker 3: that's what I try and do now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if any of the names we're gonna

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Speaker 1: ballot for the Hall of Fame voted by Steve Gardner,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna get to some of these names because

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Speaker 1: they should be on some of your draft lists. So

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Speaker 1: let's start here with the All Sleeper Team. These are

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Speaker 1: the again, sleepers are a notion that gets overdone, overwrought,

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Speaker 4: I do want to tell you I struggled with this

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Speaker 4: not gonna lie to you guys that the all Breakout,

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Speaker 4: to work a little bit harder to not throw all

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Speaker 4: the names that you guys expect. I think I did

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Speaker 4: here because I think they qualify it both, but they.

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Speaker 5: Kind of do.

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Speaker 4: I even did this, by the way, and we've talked

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Speaker 4: to this with a jillion times, I was like, what

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Speaker 4: is the definition that the Internet.

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Speaker 5: Says of sleeper?

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Speaker 4: Because I think there's four hundred different ways killed sleepers.

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Speaker 1: Because that's the problem is everybody talks about them so

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Speaker 1: they have to return too much of whatever that perspective

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Speaker 1: think this list of you guys put together is really good.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with the catcher here, Welsh, why don't

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Speaker 1: you kick things off with yours, which is actually a

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Speaker 1: player we talked about with Frank Stample, we talked about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think again, I don't know which one.

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Speaker 4: You guys would all kind of fine, what's better the

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Speaker 4: all sleeper, they all breakout team. I think he kind

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Speaker 4: of fits into both. Logano Hopy, I completely agreed with

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Speaker 4: walk percentage, good batting average, has really big power. I

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Speaker 4: personally love the guy. It's a unique little fact about him.

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Speaker 4: He loves to talk to fans. He did this in

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Speaker 4: the AFL. He would walk up, he would stand right

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Speaker 4: start talking to people. And one time there were these

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Speaker 4: two guys I'm not gonna go along about this. They

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Speaker 4: did you know the Bryson Stott is blah blah blah

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Speaker 4: this in Baseball America's ranks, And Logano Hoppy turned around

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Speaker 4: a talented player. He hit fifteen homers with the Phillies

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Speaker 5: There's big power.

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Speaker 4: It's being undersold by projections. I personally believe the low

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Speaker 4: he's essentially almost had a two hundred ice so it's

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Speaker 4: probably around one ninety his entire career that that really

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Speaker 4: can take over the gig from Max Stassy. I think

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Speaker 4: he's a massive sleeper. He goes outside of like the

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Speaker 4: top twenty in catchers. He's a no brainer in two

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Speaker 4: a fifteen team, I would try to pick him up

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Speaker 2: Easy.

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Speaker 1: Now, Steve, you got a veteran on your list, which

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Speaker 1: is great because I love that because to me, sleepers

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's undervalued veterans, and yours is Yasmani Grandal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked him for several years just because of

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Speaker 3: and he had none of that really last year. It

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Speaker 3: was just a lost season for him, injuries to the back,

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Speaker 3: the knee, everything. But from all indications he's healthy this spring.

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Speaker 3: And the White Sox had injury up and down the

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Speaker 3: You know, there was the Tony LaRussa experiment, experience, whatever

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Speaker 3: White Sox, so I think everybody suffered there. And you

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Speaker 3: look at Grundal, He's got a track record for power,

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Speaker 3: had four consecutive twenty plus homer seasons from twenty sixteen

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Speaker 3: and if he's healthy, a this is a solid White

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Speaker 3: Sox lineup, and I think he's getting overlooked outside of

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Speaker 3: the top two hundred for sure, and I think he's

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Speaker 3: somebody that you could definitely get late and be very

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinating to see what that White Sox lineup is

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Speaker 1: when it's healthy, and now that Tony L. Russ is

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Speaker 1: the combination.

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Speaker 2: Of that and see what this team comes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's get to the first basement here, Welsh,

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Speaker 1: want you kick things off.

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Speaker 2: Who made your first base list for the sleeper team

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Speaker 5: Three qualifies that?

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Speaker 4: Think it multiple of the breakout or sleeper conversation, but

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Speaker 4: I'm going to do it, especially when you look at

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Speaker 4: ADP here it is Miguel Vargas, and we've talked a

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Speaker 4: ton about him. This is in that rookie camp. Miguel

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Speaker 4: Vargas shows up at first base as the twenty ninth

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Speaker 4: first baseman, still with an overall ADP outside the top

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Speaker 4: two hundred, the only place I think a CBS where

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Speaker 4: he's inside the top one hundred. Also, I don't think

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Speaker 4: i've seen this across where we've talked a lot about

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Speaker 5: That there's the bat and the bat X.

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Speaker 4: By Derek Cardy and the BATEX I think has a

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Speaker 4: Miguel Vargas had that little I think it was a

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Speaker 1: All right over to you, your first basement for twenty

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Speaker 3: Well, it's Brandon Belt, another old veteran and another injury

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Speaker 1: I always wonder if he had stayed healthy and not

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Speaker 4: And it's Colton Wong with the Seattle Mariners fifteen and seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Out of him.

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Speaker 2: Just a twice two second base line on Fantasy Pros.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to see that again fantasypros dot

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Speaker 4: Twenty eight second basement. When you look at the get

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Speaker 2: If he hits at the top of that order, Welsh,

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Speaker 1: At second pace, and when you're practicing all those mock

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Speaker 2: The app is the way to go. Apps are great.

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Speaker 1: It's an app for everything except for you know, for

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Speaker 3: I'm going with Tyro Estrada again. You know, Uh, wels

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Speaker 1: Let's go over to third base to the hot corner.

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Speaker 4: in here, but there's reason to be because he is

436
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Speaker 4: cheaper than in previous years. One of the things that

437
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 4: almost made me not put him on here was he

438
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,640
Speaker 4: still is a little costly. It felt like when I've

439
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 4: seen in drafts, but on the Fantasy Pros consensus ADP,

440
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 4: he's actually the ninth third baseman. But at a one

441
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,880
Speaker 4: thirty two to EIGHTYP thirty plus homers is worth right

442
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,920
Speaker 4: around a one hundred overall pick at a really bad position.

443
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Max Munsey on the bounce back,

444
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 4: and I think he's a sleeper.

445
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Speaker 1: I know we're not going back and forth in every

446
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Speaker 1: single player here, but Steve, what are your thoughts on

447
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 1: Max Munsey because this is one that I have a

448
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 1: tough time with. Whenever you hit a buck ninety four

449
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 1: in a season, to me, that's a huge red flag

450
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 1: like something else is wrong. I don't know if he's

451
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Speaker 1: just hit his limit. I don't know if it was

452
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Speaker 1: just the injuries, whatever it was, Welsh's right, there's still

453
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Speaker 1: power there. He's still with the twenty one home runs

454
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Speaker 1: in one hundred and thirty six games. But I mean

455
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Speaker 1: I can find twenty home runs from Brandon Drury or

456
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: maybe Miranda or Matt Chapman a few rounds later. So

457
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Speaker 1: is there any plus to taking Max months you or

458
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 1: is he a sleeper? In Welsh, you're just saying, hey,

459
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,400
Speaker 1: this is a down year, wipe it away and then

460
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Speaker 1: just continue on.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think last year his numbers were rescued a

462
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 3: bit because of the elbow injury and coming along slowly

463
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Speaker 3: and spring training. I think he may have rushed to

464
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 3: get ready for the season, and then when you do that,

465
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Speaker 3: sometimes your performance is not what it should be. I

466
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 3: think he hit a lot better towards the end of

467
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Speaker 3: the season, so I'm willing to give him a pass

468
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 3: for last year. And you look at his track record too.

469
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 3: I mean, he is very consistent, especially in terms of

470
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Speaker 3: power over the last several seasons that it makes last

471
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 3: year look like the anomaly. So I know you won't

472
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 3: get a great batting average, but you know that you

473
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Speaker 3: will get power, and at third base you need power,

474
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 3: and I think that's you know, He's a guy that

475
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 3: I've been targeting. I haven't gotten yet in drafts, but

476
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Speaker 3: I would not mind having Max Monsy at all.

477
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Speaker 4: And to Steve's point, he hit two thirty in the

478
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Speaker 4: half of the season, so if you want to look

479
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Speaker 4: twoy's not the greatest thing in the world.

480
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's really helping it's but I

481
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Speaker 2: want to.

482
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 4: Point out though, when he was hitting two thirty, though,

483
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 4: when he was a two thirty two to forty guys,

484
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Speaker 4: he was going easy inside the top one hundred, and

485
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 4: now you know you're going around one thirty, maybe even

486
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 4: a little bit later. It's just kind of some fun

487
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 4: qualifications you can get out of him. But I thought

488
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Speaker 4: this was a tough one. I'm gonna be honest with

489
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Speaker 4: you that that third base, third basement.

490
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Speaker 1: Let's move on to of course Steve's and overachiever. He's

508
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Speaker 1: got two names here, potentially for third base. So is

509
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Speaker 1: this a position battle? What's going on?

510
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I started to think that DJ Lemayhew

511
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 3: is one of those, you know, bounce back guys for

512
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: last year. But I didn't want to have too many

513
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: of those injury bounce back guys because you know, I

514
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: kind of get in the rut. I like a little variety,

515
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna go a little bit deeper, you know,

516
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: Whilst taking Max Muncie, who's you know, got a pretty

517
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Speaker 3: decent ADP. I'm going way into like three hundred Jamer Candelario,

518
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: all right, hear me out on this one. Okay, everybody

519
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: hates the Washington Nationals this year. They may be the

520
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: worst team in baseball. But I think they made a

521
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Speaker 3: smart move in getting Candelario because he coming off a

522
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: bad year with the Tigers. Everybody had a bad year

523
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 3: with the Tigers, gout of be in the White Sox syndrome.

524
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: But you look at two years ago, he had sixty

525
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: one extra base hits, sixteen homers, forty two doubles. Playing

526
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: his home games in k America, which is one of

527
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: the toughest, if not the toughest pitchers park in all

528
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: of Major League Baseball, so much that they had to

529
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: move the fences in. He then goes to Washington where

530
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Speaker 3: he's pretty much the unquestioned starter. He's gonna get a

531
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Speaker 3: lot of opportunity there, and those doubles that he hit

532
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: in Detroit could very well turn into at least some

533
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Speaker 3: of them into home runs in Washington. So they don't

534
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: have a whole lot, but he's gonna hit higher in

535
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: the lineup and we've seen many times examples of bad teams.

536
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: But if you hit, you know, I think of the

537
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: Pirates with with Brian Reynolds and Brian Hayes and those guys.

538
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 3: You know, they're gonna get so many played opportunities, and

539
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 3: they'll eventually, at least if they're not putting up great

540
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: you know, batting averages and stuff, they're gonna get you

541
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Speaker 3: counting stats. And I think that's where Candelario can really

542
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: be a factor and help people because he's practically free

543
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Speaker 3: in drafts.

544
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Speaker 1: And Candelario is definitely free ADP of four thirty. He

545
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: was also good in the twenty twenty COVID shortened season two.

546
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: He had a good season there.

547
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: He at two ninety seven, at seven home runs at

548
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Speaker 1: fifty two games. So it's not like again, playing time.

549
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: That's what's all about, and there's nobody else to take

550
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: it away from him. Same thing reason we like cj

551
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: Abrams so much on the show. We always say it's free,

552
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Speaker 1: we go take it now, shortstop. By the way, c

553
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: j Abrams made your list, so we might as well

554
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Speaker 1: stay with you said you're going on the all national

555
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Speaker 1: side of the left side here on the Indie.

556
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Speaker 3: Steve maybe maybe there's a little local bias here. Maybe

557
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 3: I need a reason to watch the Nationals here in

558
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 3: the DC area. So but no, I like C. J

559
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 3: Abrams obviously, you know, coming to Washington and the one

560
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: Sodo trade, lots of prospect hype. And while you probably

561
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Speaker 3: know a lot more about C. J. Abrams and his

562
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: growth than I do, but he's still only twenty two.

563
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 3: And that's what I like, the fact that he's got

564
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: room to grow. He's got room to grow physically and

565
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: as a baseball player, and there's still that speed. And

566
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Speaker 3: I think this year we talk about the bases being

567
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: a little bit larger, the pickoff rules, things like that,

568
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Speaker 3: I think that's tailor made for cj Abrams to take

569
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Speaker 3: advantage of. And so in Washington they want him to

570
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: settle into the leadoff spot. The Nationals, you know, ever

571
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: since Trey Turner left, have not really had a leadoff guy.

572
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Speaker 3: C J Abrams could be that guy for them. And

573
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: you know, again, just multiple plate you know, plate opportunities,

574
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Speaker 3: chances to get on base, like to see the OBP

575
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: a little higher. I think he can do that. And

576
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Speaker 3: once he does get on base, you know, it's off

577
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Speaker 3: to the races. So CJ. Abrams again not getting a

578
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: whole lot of love in terms of ADP. But he's

579
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Speaker 3: got a lot of room to grow and I think that,

580
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe he takes that step forward this year and.

581
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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of love on this show because

582
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: again cheap, he's got the job.

583
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: He's got upside.

584
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: Just be patient, you know, because the Nationals have to

585
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: be patient with him too. They have to show something.

586
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: I keep saying, they have to show something for that trade.

587
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: See James are gonna have to be that guy, and

588
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 2: like he's not gonna be won Sodo.

589
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna be won soda. That's why he's so special.

590
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: But can he get a good everyday player? And I

591
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: think the answer is yes.

592
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Speaker 4: And from fantasy him on my all Breakout team to

593
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Speaker 4: I think he was my second.

594
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Speaker 1: And I've talked about him before and thinking like guys

595
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Speaker 1: outside of ADP, I think we did we did a

596
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Speaker 1: show on that that I he he was on my list,

597
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: so a lot of people smarter than me and Welsh

598
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Speaker 1: see Steve Gardner over there talking about it. All right,

599
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Speaker 1: let's get to your shortstop. And this is one of

600
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Speaker 1: my favorite guys, one of my favorite guys last year.

601
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: We talked about him so much, and all he did

602
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: last year was hit thirty one home runs.

603
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: Let's talk about him. Go ahead, Welsh.

604
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm turning even more and more, and I'm

605
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Speaker 4: gluing this all in with my dislike of this back

606
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 4: end of the deep shortstops that we like episode yeah. Yeah,

607
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: just like in that muddy water. Of those back end guys,

608
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 4: the only one that I really like Williadamas and Williadamas,

609
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 4: I think it's just.

610
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 5: So impressive that you can have a career.

611
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 4: Low batting average under a career low babbit, and you

612
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: have a career high in home runs. He also his

613
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: RBIs were through the roof. He really found a spot

614
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 4: in a place to hit. He's a two hundred ice

615
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 4: so guy. He also lowered his strike you think of this,

616
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 4: think of this. His batting average and his babbit were

617
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: lowered babbit accuading to batting average dip down. He also

618
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 4: lowered his strikeout percentage from the previous year twenty six percent,

619
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Speaker 4: which was tied. If you want to get into the decimals,

620
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 4: it was a little bit higher than one year, but

621
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 4: twenty six percent is a career best of what he

622
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: can do, so, he lowered his strikeout percentage while struggling

623
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: from Babbit. The Homers were there. Projections want the batting

624
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 4: average to kick back up because the Babbitt tells us

625
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 4: the story it is, but the Homers don't. I don't

626
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 4: buy that. I think Willia Domins could be a thirty

627
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: five homer player. And when he's sitting around a territory

628
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 4: of a consistently inconsistent Carlos Korea with injury worries Tim

629
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 4: Anderson who can't play one hundred and twenty games, and

630
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: littany of a couple other players, I just think Williadomas

631
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 4: is one of the better deals. I think he's a sleeper.

632
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: Even though this is like a top one hundred guy.

633
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: I think Willi Domas has got top fifty upside that

634
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 4: you're getting ADP shows around ninety. I've seen him go

635
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 4: post one hundred and plenty of drafts and he's actually

636
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 4: really not the target. When everyone's like, oh, the position

637
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 4: so deep, give me Tim Anderson. No one's trying to

638
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: get Willia Domas.

639
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: But isn't it every year we do this to ourselves,

640
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: where we go, oh, this is the really deep position,

641
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: and then like by June, we look up and go,

642
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: what happened to that position? It just got decimated or

643
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And you know what, just because it's deep, like,

644
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: don't take.

645
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: It for granted. You know, if you can get will

646
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: that's my point.

647
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: And if you can get Willy at your middle infield

648
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: spot somehow, it's.

649
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 4: My two favorite thing to do, now, Joe, my favorite

650
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: thing to do. That's it right there is. I want

651
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 4: one of those higher end shortstops if I am too,

652
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: even the ability padded also want it because it's good.

653
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't care like I about chasing the other things

654
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: and chasing talent.

655
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 4: I want to take him off the pool though, too,

656
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: because everyone's like, oh so deep. I want him to

657
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: be gone. I want him at my middle infield. Your

658
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: middle infield this year most likely should be a shortstop.

659
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: I don't really want it to be Jeremy Panina. I

660
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 4: don't need it to be Carlisle career.

661
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: I'd rather I love the depth.

662
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 4: If I were to go and take an on'eal cruise,

663
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: I'm taking on a lot of batting average risk. But

664
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: I don't even hate the idea of getting Willia Damas

665
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 4: because you know, if I've got some insecurity at shortstop,

666
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: specifically with him. I want another guy.

667
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: You just had. You know, it's funny.

668
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: I was looking at the Wonder Franco home road splits

669
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: today too, and he struggled at home last year. And

670
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: I just you know that batter's eyes is not great

671
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: in Tampa. And I just I know Wonder Franco's not

672
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: going anywhere for the next I don't know five hundred

673
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: years he's in that contract on how long it is.

674
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: But you see these guys when they get out of Tampa,

675
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: what they're able to do.

676
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's not easy.

677
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: You know.

678
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: It's funny about Willia Damas too. If everyone doesn't remember,

679
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: Williadamas was actually the core piece when David Price was

680
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: traded and no one knows who the hell he was.

681
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 5: Everyone was like, who is this Willy? What was this trade?

682
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 5: You looked at David Price like what is this trade about?

683
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 4: And everyone's like, watch out for Willia Damas who was

684
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: at the Tiger system. And now Willia Domas, you know

685
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 4: he is, uh. I mean, imagine trading David Price for

686
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 4: Willia Domis right now, just think about that.

687
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to the outfielders here and on

688
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: your list, I've Gardner, You've got Jesse Winker, who is

689
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: one of my favorite guys that keep talking about because

690
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: he was one of my biggest.

691
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: Dayaways last year.

692
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: He's one of my biggest targets this year because it's

693
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: all business, is not personal with me.

694
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: The ADP is free in Milwaukee.

695
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: By the way, all these guys in Milwaukee, Oscar Colas

696
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: and Harrison Batter. So let's talk about these three guys,

697
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: your outfielders. What's special about them potentially in twenty twenty

698
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: three where you think they're sleepers?

699
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: All right? Winker, obviously we liked the hitting environment in Milwaukee,

700
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: so coming back to the National League where he had

701
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: so much success in Cincinnati playing in the NL Central

702
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: and he's healthy too. Again, that's kind of a theme

703
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: that runs through a lot of these sleepers. For me,

704
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: the neck and the knee and whatever else he had

705
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: go wrong, you know, personality conflicts or clashes in Seattle.

706
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: But deep down there's still that all star from twenty

707
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: twenty one that hit three zero five, three nine four

708
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: five point fifty six in Cincinnati, And you know, the

709
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: one thing that you could knock him for in that

710
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: All Star season was that he didn't hit left handed

711
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: pitching well, had just like a ops under six hundred

712
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: against left handed pitching. He hit left handed pitching better

713
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: than he hit right handed pitching last year. So you

714
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: put all that together. Healthy in Milwaukee taking advantage of that,

715
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: I see a big bounce back from Jesse Winker.

716
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: I love that.

717
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the other guys too. It's it's funny,

718
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, Welsh. I say the same things, but it

719
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: sounds much better when Gardner says.

720
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound much smarter.

721
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: Well, when a Hall of Famer mentions it. Yeah, when

722
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: a Fantasy Baseball Hall of famers.

723
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: So much, he's much better. All right.

724
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: So all right, So let's get to Ocar Colos, which

725
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: is one of Welsh's guys in Bader, give me your

726
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: your lowdown on those two.

727
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Baier, I think another one of those guys that

728
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: has the potential to steal a ton of bases this year.

729
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: Obviously with the Yankees, they're gonna have to worry about,

730
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: you know, opponents will have to worry about Aaron Judge,

731
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: and I think this is an opportunity. Bater's going to

732
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: full time center fielder He's the only center fielder really

733
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: on the roster, so he's going to be in the

734
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 3: lineup every single day. And he was putting together a

735
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: succession of a better slugging seasons in Saint Louis until

736
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: the injuries last year. Had a four to sixty slugging

737
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: percentage in twenty twenty one. I think he's got the

738
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: potential to hit twenty home runs there in New York

739
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: and steal twenty maybe thirty bases if he can stay healthy.

740
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: I think the potential is there in New York that

741
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: Harrison Bader can continue his growth and be, you know,

742
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: a factor there for the Yankees on a team that

743
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: really needs him. You know. I think they showed when

744
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: Aaron Judge was kind of carrying them through all of

745
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: the second half of last year they needed somebody like

746
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: Bater to come in and he did performed for them

747
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: in the postseason. But getting a full season there in

748
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: New York, I think can only help it.

749
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: And colas a player who's going again pretty much free

750
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: three seventy two Chicago White Sox, we know the talent

751
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: that he brings potentially is the matter of how much

752
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: playing time he's going to get and do you think

753
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: he is going to be one of those guys from

754
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: the jump that gets it.

755
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, this could be. You know, he may be playing

756
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: for a job, a starting job in spring training. I

757
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: think he's going to make the roster. He progressed through

758
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: the minor leagues, was very successful at Double A and

759
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: Triple A last year, and the only guy in front

760
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: of him, it seems like, is Gavin Sheets. And when

761
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: you've got a twenty four year old with this kind

762
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: of raw talent, I don't think that it's going to

763
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: take him long to overtake Sheets. The one issue with

764
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: him in the minor leagues is the strikeout rate, and

765
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: he's done exceptionally well in improving on that so far

766
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: this spring. Obviously small sample sizes, but you've got a

767
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: guy who can hit for power, can steal bases, and

768
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: you know, if he's not striking out, there's a better

769
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: chance he's going to be getting on base again. I

770
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: like the bounce back for all of this, you know,

771
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: White Sox offense. Yeah, Coulos could be part of that

772
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: and a very big part of that.

773
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: Now it's a special day on the show because we're

774
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: recording this on the ninth of March and Welsh.

775
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: I had the the over on.

776
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: This, but you've hit the under the amount of times

777
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: you can mention Lars Newpar So that's it. You've now

778
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: officially you're done, hit your limit. The quote is done,

779
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: so the rest of the year you can't mention him.

780
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: But he is one of your three outfielders, so if

781
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: you want to mention him, you ken. But just no,

782
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: this is it for you. I might do the other guy,

783
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: but like do the other guy, but I just everybody

784
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: knows new Bar was on the list here because Welsh

785
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: has the man crush on him for sure.

786
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: I was also gonna put Jeffrey Springs, but like, I

787
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 4: just can't keep doing I understand it, but I was

788
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: just struggling with it, like I am so susceptible. By

789
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 4: the way, if Corbyn, Carroll and large newpar are not

790
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: good this.

791
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: Year, well I'm gonna hear it. Corbyn Carroll, you know

792
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: I'm all in on.

793
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the more I watched, the more I watch it,

794
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: it's just I think he's just such a He just

795
00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: handed up so fast.

796
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: Well, he's got such.

797
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: Strong quick hands to the baseball, his athleticism. I just

798
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: wrote this up in a piece for Fantasy Pros too.

799
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: It's up on there my must haves. He's one of

800
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: my must haves this year. I think he's almost slump

801
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: proof because of the athleticism, because of the quick stroke,

802
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: because like the amount of that paths is gonna get.

803
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: I know, like maybe I'm jinxing it, but I really.

804
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: Want that was a little jinxy, but like I'm with you.

805
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, you know that on this show the

806
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: last couple of years. And I mean, how many years

807
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: have we've been doing shows together when you and I

808
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: agree on a player and were this excited?

809
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: How often are we wrong? We? I mean, so I'm.

810
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: Gonna like we did like bold predictions last year in

811
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 4: mine we're the silliest ever, and they weren't like in agreement.

812
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: This is a full agreement. And like I said, I'm

813
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: just the conductor of these trains. There's a lot of

814
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 4: people with it and with me on it.

815
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 5: Uh, it's just very tied to it.

816
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: Large new bars and another one I've talked about it

817
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: at nauseum, but like if you're talking about it belongs

818
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: on my sleeper. Here's the other guy then that I

819
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 4: can pivot to is Taylor Ward. I think Taylor Ward

820
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: is coming at an exceptional cost. Outside the top one hundred.

821
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: You're probably looking easily at a twenty to twenty five

822
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: home run season batting averages to eighty last year, XBA

823
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: maintained almost a two seventy hits both righty and Lefti's

824
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 4: good hit too, sixty eight against lefties to eighty six

825
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: against righty's and maintained both halves, which is pretty solid

826
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: to eighty six in the first half to seventy five

827
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 4: in the second half. Just a consistent hitter that's gonna

828
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 4: have a lot of opportunity for running RBI in that

829
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 4: that angels Ligne up. And I think he's a pretty

830
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 4: good deal. My other outfielders that I threw out to you,

831
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: I'm actually gonna pivot. I want to give you this

832
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: guy first. This is a cheating one, but I want

833
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 4: to talk about him because he's not doing a outfielder anymore.

834
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we don't get to talk about d it.

835
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: We don't talk about you two guys in any of these.

836
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: I love it.

837
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: I drafted him yesterday and I drafted him at I

838
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: drove him yesterday in the league, and I drafted him

839
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: today in the RST slam. I drafted it, and that's

840
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: why I wanted to bring up aunt.

841
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: Another Dodger in jad Martinez. And I know he's not

842
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: technically an outfielder, but JD. Martinez is cheat code stuff.

843
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 4: With the Dodgers still hit two seventy four last year,

844
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 4: but obviously struggled totally offensively. Batting average looks like a

845
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: going to maintain projections. Love a huge bounce back in

846
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 4: power to the twenty five range, and I guess at

847
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 4: the end of the day, like I'm not, I like.

848
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 5: A lot of the Dodgers, but it's just a why

849
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 5: wouldn't you.

850
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: It's a big, huge, powerful lineup, and I keep picking

851
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: on Dodgers that are coming at costs that are way

852
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: cheaper than they were in previous years, and their bounce

853
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 4: back stuff. I mean, Munsey and uh and Jadie Martinez

854
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: are bounced backs. Miguel Vargas just hasn't gone there. I

855
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 4: think he's just kind of a no brainer that everyone

856
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 4: forgets about because he's util only. I don't think he's

857
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: gonna at the outfield stuff, but he's.

858
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Just they don't sort in the draft, and how many

859
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: guys are sitting there where he is an ADP where

860
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: you could legit say there's a chance he goes thirty

861
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: ninety like that. That's that's absolutely the range of outcomes

862
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: for him. And it's not absurd like it's just he

863
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: came off a down year. We're going to know right away.

864
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: I think in the first month or two if Jady

865
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: Martinez is washed or if Jady Martinez is gonna have

866
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: a renaissance, I really do go ahead, Steve.

867
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: You know, guys, there's another reason that I'm bullish on JD.

868
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: Martinez as well. Coming to the Dodgers, they hired the

869
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: guy that turned his swing around. Remember when JD. Martinez

870
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: was essentially a nobody and all of a sudden, wow,

871
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: where did this come from? The guy's named Robert van Skyak,

872
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: And he wouldn't he wouldn't tell me. I remember interviewing

873
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 3: him like the year after that, and he wouldn't tell

874
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: me the guy's name, and he wanted to keep it secret.

875
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: He didn't want anybody going there. That finally got out

876
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: and the Dodgers hired him as hitting coach or assistant

877
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: hitting coach or he's with the Dodgers this year, so

878
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: reuniting the two of them, you know, whatever might have

879
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: been broken last year for JD. Martinez. I think there's

880
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: a pretty good chance that it gets fixed.

881
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: It's one hundred worth a shot at the ADP too.

882
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: I think that's what Welsh is driving home. So you've

883
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: got Taylor Ward, You've got Martinez nut bar. I'll give

884
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: you one more Welsh since I didn't let you use

885
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: your nude bar today.

886
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

887
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 5: No, I wanted to talk about this one.

888
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: This is important because I actually walked myself into this

889
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: one because I was not about this guy at all.

890
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 4: I was on a bench with Bubba, our dear friend,

891
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 4: Casey Bubba, and we were talking about the Diamond will

892
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 4: be on.

893
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: The show tomorrow, by the way, on the Friday mock

894
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: Draft show. So there you go.

895
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 5: Go and listen to that. Yeah, there you go, you

896
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 5: guys and check us out. Well.

897
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 4: In that show, I started to have this revelation about

898
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 4: Lordis Curriel and I had brought up the idea. I said, listen,

899
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm not sold. When you look at roster, rest of

900
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: resource tells you that Jake McCarthy's a guy. I don't

901
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: believe in it, and I don't know if the contact skills

902
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 4: are there enough. I also believe you know, the stolen

903
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 4: baser are going to come from Carol. Whatever, it doesn't matter,

904
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: I said, look out, because the perfect type of guy

905
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: to hit three for a team like this is actually

906
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: a guy like Lordis Gurriel.

907
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: We know what ended up happening. Spring started.

908
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 4: He's starting almost every single game hitting three for the Diamondbacks.

909
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 4: It's spring training. Things can change, of course they can.

910
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: But Corb and Carroll against Righty's leading off Kateel Marte

911
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 4: is firmly at two, and I want to point out,

912
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: in every one of these games, Katel has hit two

913
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 4: and Lord has has hit three. Walker comes in at four.

914
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: It seems like a foregone conclusion that Lordis Guriel is

915
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 4: going to hit three. Now, why is that important? You

916
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: have Corbin Carrol maybe going to lead the league in

917
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: solo basis, even if it doesn't, is going to be

918
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: a threat. The fastest man in baseball is your lead

919
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: off hitter. You've got to tell Marte, who is noticeably

920
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: trying to still hit for contact, not for power. Lords

921
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 4: is not exciting, but he's dirt cheap, dirt cheap, and

922
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: what if those RBI numbers start to represent what he

923
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: did in twenty twenty.

924
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 5: One with the with the Blue Jays.

925
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 4: What if it's into the eighties, what if he gets

926
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: to fifteen homers, He's going to hit for a high

927
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: batting average. I think it's a cheap, free opportunity when

928
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: outfields stinks so bad that you might be able to

929
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: get a couple really good categories outside the top two hundred.

930
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: And I just wanted to point out Lordis Gurriel because

931
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: I kind of walk myself into this him hitting three thing,

932
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: and it has been happening all spring long, and I

933
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 4: think it's something we should really really pay attention to

934
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: for a diamondback team that is going to try to manufacture,

935
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: it might be a tiny bit better than a lot

936
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: of people expect.

937
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the pictures. Here the three

938
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: pictures on your list. Steve Gardner has actually got four

939
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 1: because again overachiever Lucas Gilito, one of my favorite bounce backs.

940
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: Also a guy drafted yesterday in our Fantasy Bros.

941
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: Draft.

942
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta who we've had mixed things about, so I

943
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: want to definitely get your input on him. Tyler Molly

944
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: and Tyler Anderson. So two Tyler's a Freddie p and

945
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: a Lucas g So let's talk about these guys. We'll

946
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: take them one at a time, first Giulito, and then

947
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: run through them for us here, Steve.

948
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: All right, Gilito, I think we have mutual love the

949
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: Welsh and I on him. I just I think last

950
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 3: year again it's the white Sox thing. Maybe that's that's

951
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: another theme for today. But where did that, folks, that's

952
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: the sleepers or where did that come from? That's what

953
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: I want to know. I mean, he'd been he turned

954
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: things around since leaving Washington and going to Chicago. It's

955
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: a huge buying opportunity. I mean, the k rate still

956
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: above a strikeout per inning, he's still missing bats last

957
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 3: year at the seventy first percentile. I just seems to

958
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: me like there was just a mirage last year and

959
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: Gilito is a guy that can come back to ACE level.

960
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: And again you're talking about where he's going in ADP.

961
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: I got him as my second starter in the al

962
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 3: Labor draft over the past weekend and he was sixteen

963
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 3: seventeen dollars and uh, you know he was somebody.

964
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: Last year, by the way, can we I mean he

965
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: was just out of shape?

966
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 4: You mean wait, yeah, he noticed a lot. He said

967
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: he lost like thirty five pounds.

968
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he came up with two forty five this year.

969
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: He was too eighty last year.

970
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: I mean obviously the mechanics had you know, it threw

971
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: that off, It threw off the stem, and it.

972
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: Threw off everything.

973
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: So I mean, just coming into camp better shape. I

974
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: think that hopefully's gonna be enough. Steve, I'm with you

975
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. What about paralitic, because that's a guy's

976
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: very polarizing because Nick Pollock, I mean literally I didn't

977
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: sleep the entire night after we had him on. He

978
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: talked about Freddy Pearulter's shoulder. But everybody keeps saying he's

979
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: fine and he looks healthy in the spring.

980
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: But what do you think, Well, I'm buying into the fact,

981
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: and maybe I should be, uh taking this with a

982
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 3: grain of salt. But if they say that he's healthy

983
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: and all indications are at this point that he's healthy

984
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 3: entering spring training, then I love Freddy Peralta where he's

985
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 3: going right now. I mean we saw what he could

986
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: do over a full season a couple of years ago

987
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: with that era under three one hundred and ninety five

988
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: k's and he just the one thing I like about

989
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: him the most is he doesn't give up hard contact

990
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: and home runs. So you know, when you can limit

991
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: that in Milwaukee and get the you know, your team

992
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: to hit a few extra home runs, that's where Freddy

993
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: Peralta can be, you know. And he's not even the

994
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: number one of the number two guy there in Milwaukee.

995
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: He's their third starter, so the expectations aren't anything that

996
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 3: he has to deal with. And the strikeout rate again high.

997
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: It's been over ten k's per nine for for a

998
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: couple of years. Was down a little bit last year,

999
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: but I attribute that to the injuries. I'm looking for

1000
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: the bounce back here and I'm buying.

1001
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: At the dip okay, and then you got Tyler Molly

1002
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: and Tyler Anderson on your list.

1003
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: Let's talk about those two guys.

1004
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get real quick again. Tyler Molly two years

1005
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: ago struck out two hundred and ten batters at a

1006
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: three seventy five e RA in Cincinnati in a pitcher's park.

1007
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: You put him in Minnesota with Carlos Carea, Brian Byron

1008
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: Buxton or Michael A. Taylor in centerfield. You know those

1009
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 3: guys up the middle there good defense. I think that's

1010
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: Taylor made for him to come back and and be

1011
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: maybe not an ace, but certainly much better than the

1012
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: sp five or six or whatever. He's being drafted. And

1013
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: Tyler Anderson, I don't, I don't get it. I mean, yes,

1014
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: he's not impressive to watch, but he does get ahead

1015
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: of hitters. That's one of the He's one of the

1016
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: best in the majors at getting ahead of hitters, or

1017
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: was last year, and that's what I think contributed a

1018
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: lot to his two five seven e r A and

1019
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: one point zero zero whip. Going to the Angels, it's different.

1020
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 3: You know, we won't have the Dodgers, won't be shifting,

1021
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: and you know they were the one one of the

1022
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: best teams at shifting. But still the mentality of getting

1023
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: ahead and nobody batters chased balls on him as much

1024
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: as they do almost any other pitcher in all of

1025
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. I think that's the kind of skill

1026
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: that can translate to a new environment. So Tyler Anderson,

1027
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 3: again way outside the top two hundred, I'm buying.

1028
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: All right now.

1029
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: Welsh you have ge Alito on your list, Andrew Heeney,

1030
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: George Kirby at a mornings to be said about Giolito,

1031
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: but Welsh, if you got something there, drop it. Let's

1032
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: get to Heeni and Kirby as well. Why do these

1033
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: guys make your all sleeper team?

1034
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, the only thing I would add with the Gilito

1035
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: as well. On top of the weight loss, he was

1036
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 4: pitching inside his body and you could pretty visibly see

1037
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 4: it where he kept his arm inside kind of like

1038
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 4: really close to the vest and then he would explode

1039
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: on it. That was something that he changed from years prior.

1040
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 4: Went to drive line again. That's gone, so he's kind

1041
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 4: of changed his delivery. He lost a whole bunch of weight.

1042
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: It seems very much like an anomaly. I'm just very

1043
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: much in on him.

1044
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 5: We've talked a lot about Kirby.

1045
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: Kirby was a.

1046
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: Big guy that Nick Pollock was in on, and you know,

1047
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 4: I've kind of been pretty vocal about it as well.

1048
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: I like the nine k per nine. I love that

1049
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 4: he is a command zone pitcher. He's just going to

1050
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: pump all across his zone with a multitude of pitches.

1051
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: I think he's going to take a big step up.

1052
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 4: I love the spin rates. I just love everything about

1053
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 4: George Kirby I've seen him touch one hundred as well,

1054
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 4: so I think there's always something in the tank for him.

1055
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: A little bit bigger. Just saw him today actually in camp.

1056
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: You know, he's just adding a little bit more muscle

1057
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: onto his body. I think George Kirby set to really

1058
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 4: break out. And you know, Andrew Heeney is someone I

1059
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 4: haven't really talked about recently, but like he was kind

1060
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 4: of Jacob de gram light with what the Dodgers changed

1061
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 4: with him. He only had seventy innings last year, which

1062
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: is also a Jacob de Gram light. But okay, Joe,

1063
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: you're giving me a reaction there. Joe thirty five point

1064
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: five K percentage, which was over thirteen K per nine.

1065
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: Of all pitchers who pitched seventy or more innings, Spencer

1066
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: Strider had the best K minus Walker twenty nine point

1067
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 4: seven number two Andrew Heeney twenty nine point four percent.

1068
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 4: The Dodgers, like they do, were able to fix him.

1069
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 4: I'm very hopeful that that is going to come over

1070
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: and that is going to take part in Texas, because

1071
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 4: that is an increase in K prinine. He lowered his

1072
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: walk per nine last year. He didn't give up as

1073
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: many Homers. This is a guy if you can get

1074
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: the innings out of him, is crazy, crazy valuable at

1075
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 4: low rounds that people are just not targeting. That has

1076
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 4: him around one hundred and forty innings. Like I said,

1077
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 4: this is like a goodwill version of Jacob de Gram.

1078
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: I love the strikeout numbers. I think Texas is going

1079
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Speaker 4: to be way better than people are giving credit for.

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Speaker 4: So Andrew Heeney is a target. I think he's a

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Speaker 4: sleeper and if he gets one hundred and ten hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty innings, he's going to smash his value.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I just still trying to come down from the

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Speaker 1: Jacob de gram comparison there.

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Speaker 4: But like Jacob, it's like goodwill, goodwill. Jacob de Grod

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Speaker 4: thirteen k per nine is the second best case. Can

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Speaker 4: also only pitch seventy innings.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was gonna say the most Jacob de

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Speaker 2: gram as thing he can do.

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Speaker 1: He's seventy four innings this year. That's probably gonna be

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Speaker 1: uh somewhere in that rage.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's close x fip better than his HERI yeah.

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Speaker 2: Let's close things out with the closers.

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Speaker 1: Justin Mason has a great piece on fantasy pros right now,

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Speaker 1: the all undrafted team, and this guy's on it.

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Speaker 2: Well, so let's talk about your relief pitcher.

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Speaker 4: Uh, as far as relief pitchers go, this is interestingly

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Speaker 4: all undrafted.

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Speaker 5: One.

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Speaker 4: I've got Alexis Diaz with the Cincinnati Reds, who's actually

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Speaker 4: out right now for the I believe he's I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to remember what team he is, but he's out in

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Speaker 4: the WBC. And Alexis Daz is just one of those

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Speaker 4: dudes that this is. Also I believe he's brothers or

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Speaker 4: cousins with Edwin Diaz, so you can obviously kind of

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Speaker 4: get excited there. This is a bad team with a

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Speaker 4: lockdown closer. So this is kind of like similar to

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Speaker 4: like Daniel Bard how you would view it, except I

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Speaker 4: think the stuff can be bigger head of one eight

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Speaker 4: four era last year. The worrisome stuff is the walk

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Speaker 4: numbers are really high, and technically his ex FIP was

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Speaker 4: like at nomically higher, so he got away with a

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Speaker 4: lot of stuff.

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Speaker 5: But it is.

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Speaker 4: Big strikeout numbers, doesn't give up homers, and he has

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Speaker 4: the gig and he's going to keep down that gig

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Speaker 4: for quite a while.

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Speaker 5: So I think as far as the.

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Speaker 4: Sleeper goes Ario Cohen talked about alex slang you could

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Speaker 4: look at him. Daniel Bard is kind of fun with Colorado.

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Speaker 4: But Alexis Diaz, to me, I think has the most real,

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Speaker 4: true life closer stuff and if that control can be

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Speaker 4: a little bit under control, if you will, then Alexis

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Speaker 4: Diaz has a potential to be like a top twelve.

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Speaker 4: I actually really think this is like its like Daniel

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Speaker 4: Bard where you know Daniel Bard, I guess you got

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Speaker 4: him probably like twenty fifth or something encloser and he

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Speaker 4: could return top fifteen. I think Alexis d has a

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Speaker 4: easy going to do that, and if he has a

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Speaker 4: gig all year controls those walks, I think he could

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Speaker 4: finish top probably ten enclosers. So he's a guy that

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to drop absolutely everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing for Team Puerto Rico. All right, though,

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Speaker 1: let's go for you, Steve Gardner. Close us out here.

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Speaker 1: And this is a closer that I take in almost

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Speaker 1: every mock draft that we do. He has very little

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Speaker 1: competition as far as I'm concerned, and I do agree

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Speaker 1: with Welsh. I think Texas is going to be better

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Speaker 1: than people realize. I'm not sure how. It's just they've

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Speaker 1: just knock the talent on their roster the.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: But no, but look, they went out there and they've

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Speaker 1: spent money and they've run into major league talent and

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Speaker 1: that's something that roster's lacked the last three years, let's

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00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: be honest. So that just off the bat is a

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Speaker 1: good thing. So the closer there, jose lea clerk, that's

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Speaker 1: your guy.

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Speaker 3: Steve Yes indeed, and uh, you know, if de Grom

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Speaker 3: and and those guys can get further into the game

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Speaker 3: and maybe take some of the pressure off of the

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Speaker 3: bullpen in Texas to get it to the ninth inning,

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Speaker 3: jose Le Clerk is going to be. Uh. It seems

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Speaker 3: to me the no doubt closer there. They just did

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Speaker 3: sign Will Smith this past week, who does have closing experience.

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Speaker 3: But again, you like to see the right hander as

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Speaker 3: the closer and use the left hander in situations. And

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Speaker 3: you know, coming back after Tommy John surgery a couple

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Speaker 3: of years ago, made it back to the roster throwing

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Speaker 3: ninety six again last year, and he has closing experience.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's done that for a couple of years,

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Speaker 3: and now it seems like the job is his I

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Speaker 3: think he's in a perfect situation and everybody seems to

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Speaker 3: have forgotten about him, at least in drafts that I'm in,

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Speaker 3: where you know, nobody knows who's going to close for

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Speaker 3: Texas because nobody had many saves for them. He's the

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Speaker 3: guy he came back in, you know, towards the end

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Speaker 3: of the year and took the job over. I think

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Speaker 3: he's going to keep it all season long. And if

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Speaker 3: you can get a closer who has the job all

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Speaker 3: season long and not get traded, then you've got gold,

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Speaker 3: especially where he's going.

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Speaker 1: I love that we've come full circle here this week

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Speaker 1: because after the show with Collette he had so many

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Speaker 1: of my favorite names on his All Bus team. You've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of names that I like Steve Gardner

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Speaker 1: on your all sleeper team.

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Speaker 2: So now I'm feeling a little bit better. It could

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Speaker 2: rest easy.

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Speaker 1: Those names are at Catri Gasmani Grondal at first, Brandon

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Speaker 1: belt Estrata, Candelario Abrams make the rest of the infield.

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Speaker 1: Then you've got Jesse Winker, Oscar colos Ha Bader in

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Speaker 1: the outfield, the pitchers, Giolito, Peralta, Molly and Anderson, and

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Speaker 1: the closer, jose Leclerk, Welsh's all sleeper team, the slap

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Speaker 1: of Yo Hoppy as Ariel Cohen calls him. Miguel Vargas,

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Speaker 1: Colton Wong, Max Munsey, William Domas, Lars newtbar Taylor, Ward, Lords,

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Speaker 1: Guriel JD. Martinez, then Kirby Heeney and Gildo will Alexis

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Speaker 1: Diaz at the end.

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Speaker 2: So some really good names there.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, go practice getting these names on your roster over

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Speaker 1: at fantasypros dot com slash Draft Wizard, download the app,

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Speaker 1: run those mock draft simulations. We got a draft show,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, coming up tomorrow with Bubba. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do head to head Rhodo categories. I think we should

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Speaker 1: all draft right next to each other. Welsh, what do

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Speaker 1: you think like five six, seven tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: That's a pretty yeah, all.

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Speaker 1: Friends after Still, I think we should do that. Steve

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Speaker 1: Gardner go follow him on the Twitter machine at Steve A.

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Speaker 2: Gardner. He is first class for a reason, one of.

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Speaker 1: The best guests, one of the best baseball people I've

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Speaker 1: ever met in one of the big reasons I'm still

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Speaker 1: kicking in this industry. So Steve, just thank you again

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Speaker 1: for your time and coming on sharing your knowledge with everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's also one of the best fantasy baseball players out

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Speaker 1: there too. If you're ever in a league with Steve Gardner,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you he's gonna kick your ass

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Speaker 1: like it's just I've experienced it myself on more than

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Speaker 1: one occasion. So one of the best there is. And

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for us, but the story of the

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Speaker 1: game goes on for Steve Gardner and the Welsh I'm

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