1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: AM paranormal podcast network. Now Get Ready for Strange Things 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: with Joshua P. Warren. Welcome to our podcast. Please be 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: aware the thoughts and opinions expressed by the host are 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: their thoughts and opinions only and do not reflect those 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: of I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast AM, 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: employees of premier networks, or their sponsors and associates. We 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: would like to encourage you to do your own research 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: and discover the subject matter for yourself. You got ready 10 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: like a wizard of weird. This is Strange Things. I 11 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: am Joshua pe Warren. At each week on this show, 12 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises, 13 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 14 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: lot more. On this edition of the show, Springhilled, Jack, 15 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: lizard Man, and Lalla Rona. Do you know what any 16 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 1: of those are? Maybe you know what all of them are? Well, listen, 17 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: I have connected these things in my mind and I'm 18 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: going to explain to you in this show what that 19 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: connection is. And these are some of the weirdest stories 20 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: that I've come across. Okay, so, I'm looking forward to 21 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: digging into them. And these are ones that I've I've 22 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: really never talked about in depth before. But first, but first, 23 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: I have a very interesting update for you, some really 24 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: cool news. So Justin Perry is a good friend of 25 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: mine who lives in Texas and he is a manifestation master. 26 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: He owns this extremely popular channel on YouTube called You 27 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: Are Creators. So if you just go to YouTube dot 28 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: com type in you are Creators, that will pop up. 29 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: He has one point six six million subscribers and eight 30 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty videos and it's just growing every day. 31 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: And one of the things about Justin and by the way, 32 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: he has this affirmation that he uses all the time, 33 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: and he says it's extremely powerful. He loves coming up 34 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: with affirmations that seem very effective for people. So just 35 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: on a side note, take a note of this. Uh. 36 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: He says, here, here you go, money comes to me 37 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: and expected and unexpected ways. And then you repeat that 38 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: five times with emotion and conviction every day. Here it 39 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: is again, money comes to me in expected and unexpected ways, 40 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: five times a day. He says, money you you would 41 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: just the abundance will start to shower you. You will 42 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: be amazed. So I enjoy sharing that with you. And 43 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: he is a very very busy guy. Okay, he's involved 44 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: in lots of enterprises. He and his wife have three sons. 45 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, one of his sons is 46 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: named Joshua. And we were having this conversation about parents 47 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: naming their kids Joshua, and I mentioned that, you know, 48 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: my mom and dad, they like to give their kids 49 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: biblical names, and so they they admired Joshua from the Bible. 50 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: And of course you've heard the song Joshua fit the 51 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: Bad of Jericho, right, and that is it's about this 52 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: incident in the Book of Joshua, the first battle fought 53 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: by the Israelites in the course of the conquest of Canaan. 54 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: And they say that, um, the Israelites they marched around 55 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: the city walls once a day for six days, and 56 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: then seven times on the seventh day, and they blew trumpets, 57 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: and the walls, the great mighty walls around the city 58 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: just kicked the crack that they came crumbling and tumbling down. 59 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: And so that's when the Israelites were able to go 60 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: in and uh and take over. And what's kind of 61 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: funny is that Lauren pointed out the other day that 62 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: there was a Garth Brooks concert in Louisiana. This is 63 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: just days ago, and over one hundred thousand fans showed 64 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: up at l s u S Tiger Stadium and they 65 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: were dancing and singing so hard that it actually caused 66 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: a small earthquake. It literally registered on a seismograph. So 67 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: maybe that's similar to what happened in the Bible, some 68 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: kind of a man made earthquake, you know. Tesla claimed 69 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: that he had sort of an earthquake machine that he 70 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: could use. But anyway, aside from being fascinated with manifestation, uh, 71 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: Justin is extremely into UFOs and alien contact. He's one 72 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: of the most interested people I've ever met. And as 73 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: soon as he heard that I was working with Jason 74 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: Saracchi to produce these Vegas UFO skywatches, Justin bought an 75 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: airplane ticket and he flew here and we got together 76 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: on April the twenty ninth of this year two because 77 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: it was basically the new moon and nice and dark, 78 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: and what we do is we can, but we gave him, 79 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, this v I P experience. Uh, it was 80 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: just him, Jason, myself and my wife Lauren. And when 81 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: we do these skywatches with third generation night vision goggles, 82 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: we take we take people out into the desert at 83 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: least like thirty maybe thirty minutes from Vegas to get 84 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: away from light pollution. And we have different locations we 85 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: can pick and choose from, and so we keep them 86 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: most of the time confidential. We don't tell people exactly 87 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: where we're gonna be. So this first night, okay, well 88 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: here the first at the first sight of that night, 89 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: let me just tell you what happened. So, uh, Justin 90 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: has never used third generation night vision goggles before. And 91 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: this technology is so precious that it's it's literally illegal 92 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: to allow a non US citizen to look through a 93 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: pair of third generation night vision goggles. It's a federal offense. 94 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: It's due to what's called I TAR I T, a 95 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: arts regulatory for you know, weapons systems and all that. 96 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: But so we you know, we have to make sure 97 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: we only allow you as citizens to participate, and some 98 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: people don't understand that, but we don't have a choice. 99 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, Um, so we get out there in the 100 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: field and Jason Saracci, of course he has this excellent setup. Uh, 101 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: he's got every type of camera you can want, all 102 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: these different goggles, and I mean the weather was ideal, 103 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: the sky was clear, I mean it was ah, we 104 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: just knew we were going to see something. Well the 105 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: first thing that happened. It was kind of really great 106 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: luck and kind of bad luck at the same time. 107 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: And let me explain what I mean. Okay, so we 108 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: had we each had a pair of third generation night 109 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: vision goggles at this time. Lauren was not around and 110 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: it was just Jason and Justin and myself, the three 111 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: the three J's in the field. And because that okay, 112 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: then we only use the finest third generation night vision goggles. 113 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: These are called Para temporal night vision goggles. And if 114 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: you want to learn all about them, and you could 115 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: watch videos and stuff, go to Para Temporal dot com 116 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: p A r A t E M p O r 117 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: A L Para temporal dot com and uh, and you 118 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: can learn why that we only use them. And a 119 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: pair of these costs thousands of dollars. Uh. There are 120 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: some you can get that are less expensive, but we 121 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: are using like the criminala crime. So in order to 122 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: film through these third gen goggles, what you do is 123 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: you take these goggles which are ordinarily kind of like 124 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: just binoculars that you would look through, which allow you 125 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: to see into the invisible infrared realm. And it's unbelievable 126 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: because for every star you can see with your naked eye, 127 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: you can see like twenty or thirty through the goggles. 128 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the sky just explodes and sparkles like diamonds. 129 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: It's amazing. But when you get these things, you're you're 130 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: looking directly through them, and if you want to record 131 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: what you're seeing, then traditionally what you do is you 132 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: kind of remove one of the eye pieces and then 133 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: you have an adapter that you can use to screw 134 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: on a camera. So having the camera there is really 135 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: great because obviously you can record what the goggles see, 136 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: but it also kind of takes away from your experience 137 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: using the goggles in real time because you're giving up 138 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: an eyepiece there and there. There's there's something sort of 139 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: between your face and and the goggles. So the what 140 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm getting out here is at this point, Jason, he 141 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: had just gotten his camera hooked up to his third 142 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: gen night vision goggles, and Justin and I didn't have 143 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: cameras hooked up yet, and I was just sort of 144 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: showing him how to use the goggles, and he's just going, Wow, 145 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: this is amazing, you know. And so at one point 146 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: I said to um, I okay, at one point I'm 147 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: looking up and it was just like so lucky, was 148 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: so serendipitous. Justin and I were looking at the same 149 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: spot and the sky at the same time, and we 150 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: both go WHOA, this big, bright, like jagged looking object 151 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: that seemed very low and close to us goes darting 152 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: right over our heads and we're just screaming, and and 153 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: of course, poor old Jason he's just getting his camera 154 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: hooked up and he was where is it? Where is it? 155 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: And this thing we couldn't have been there longer than 156 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: ten seconds before I just shot right off into space. 157 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,359 Speaker 1: And so the two guys who saw it, Justin myself, 158 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: we're lucky that we both got to see that was 159 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: super lucky. But we didn't have the cameras on our goggles. 160 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: And the one the one guy who did Jason, he 161 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't looking in the same spot at that time, 162 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: so we didn't get proof of that. But that sucked. 163 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: But don't worry. Don't worry, because later on something very 164 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: interesting happened. We ended up seeing quite a few UFOs 165 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: at that at that spot, and Jason got some great footage. 166 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: But I think the big achievement of the night was 167 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: what happened when we decided to drive an hour to 168 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: make the light the night longer, which is something we 169 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't ordinarily do on a SkyWatch unless somebody requested that 170 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: extra time. And um, we we we took our little 171 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: group up north of Las Vegas on the route to 172 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: area fifty one to where I discovered the so called 173 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: time warp. So here we are out there late at night, 174 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: and it's so dark, and it's eerily quiet, and we're 175 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: ready now, Okay, we're prepared now, and we all saw 176 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: something and it's on video. Um, when we come back 177 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: from this break, I'm gonna tell you what we saw, 178 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: and I'm going to play some audio for you of 179 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: us reacting to what we were seeing. So cool, and 180 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: then of course after that, I'll finally get into all 181 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: these weird beings that I've been intrigued by that may 182 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: or may not even have a connection to some of 183 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: these well aliens interdimensional beings that I was spring Hill Jack, 184 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: lizard Man. Anyway, Uh, listen, to this. I've told you before. 185 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: I just bought a new piece of property at one 186 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: of the most paranormal hotspots on planet Earth. I have 187 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: the deed in my hand. I will soon be telling 188 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: you what I'm gonna do with this land and what 189 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: I am building on it. 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Welcome back to Strange Things 200 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM 201 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, 202 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain from my 203 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: studio and Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day 204 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: is golden and every night is silver, and here we 205 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: were on one of those silver nights at the time warp. 206 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: This is the place where in two thousand eighteen I 207 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: made a discovery that went viral, made international headlines. I 208 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: used Ron Heath's d T meter, his differential time rate meter, 209 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: and discovered this spot on the side of the road 210 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: on the way to Area fifty one, where I was 211 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: able to measure time momentarily slowing down, which at that 212 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: time mainstream scientists said should not be possible. But just 213 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: since then, in the past four years or so, there 214 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: have been a lot of advances that are starting to 215 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: confirm more and more that time is a little slippery 216 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: and lucy gusco all over the place. And of course 217 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: then things got even weirder when I found that later 218 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: on that this was a paranormal hot spot where people 219 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: have been seeing UFOs, having close encounters, experiencing missing time. 220 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: I've talked about it a lot, and once before Jason 221 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: went out there at night and he got some kind 222 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: of a weird light in the desert in the middle 223 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: of no are. Well. Here we were back there again 224 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: late at night, perfect conditions and lo and behold, boom, 225 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: here we have out in the desert. Pal a light 226 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: that appears, and then a second light that appears, and 227 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: they're drifting around the desert. And these are not visible 228 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: to the naked eye ex except occasionally you might get 229 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: a little hint of a reddish color, but usually they 230 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: were not available. And let let me just play the audio, 231 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: just part of the audio from you know what what 232 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: happened to us? Our reaction when we solve these lights appear. 233 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna hear I think all of us 234 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: in this. I'm talking, Jason's talking, Justin's talking. I think 235 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: even Lauren chimes in at a certain point. So here 236 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: you go. This will give you an idea of how 237 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: exciting this was for us. There's something down there as 238 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: bright as hell, you know, justin here quickly, Yeah, Lauren, 239 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell that is. There's two 240 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: of them looked over there. Man, they looked for the 241 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Nike and eye you can't see. But look, there's something 242 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: flash and it just crossed the field. It's in the 243 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: same place it was before. It's about to disappear. So 244 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: you look with your naked eye, justin there's nothing there. 245 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: What the hell is that it's gone? Oh, this is 246 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: exactly where I saw. It's further away. Now do you 247 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: see a far just moved, Lauren, are you recording that? 248 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: Look right down the trail. It's gone, it just disappeared. Well, 249 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: it's I could barely see a little bit. Holy again 250 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: up the lights. Back, it's down there again down the 251 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: trail this time. Is that we gotta go down there? 252 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: Like I think this warrants a walk. It's gone. It's 253 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: there still, it's still there. Now it's gone. What the 254 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: hell was that? It's back again. It's way further down 255 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: the trail though, way further down back. Look at that. Yeah, 256 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it is bad. Okay, it's bad. Yeah, 257 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm videotaping. It's gone again. Yeah, it appears and disappears. Now. 258 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: Jason was a brave man that night, and he actually 259 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: walked by himself way down that trail to see if 260 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: he could get a closer look. Even though there are 261 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: mountain lions and coyotes and rattlesnakes and scorpions, they was gone. 262 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: It was gone. If you want to see this footage, though, 263 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: if you actually want to see what we're talking about. 264 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: John Carter up there in Canada, he put these clips together. 265 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: All you have to do is go to YouTube and 266 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: just do a search for his channel, which is UFOs Worldwide, 267 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: and you'll see he's called it two Orbs called in 268 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: Nevada Desert. Two Orbs Caught in Nevada Desert. And I'll 269 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: try to remember to post a link to that uh 270 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: on my Twitter for you as well. But anyway, you 271 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: can see how excited we were. As a matter of fact, 272 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: Justin said that he had such a great time he's 273 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: already planning his next trip back. And so that's why 274 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how long we're going to make these 275 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: things available, um, but can you imagine what a surprising 276 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: gift that would be for somebody? I mean, like, like, 277 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: what's cooler than going out and having experiences like that 278 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: with your own eyes. If you want to look into 279 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: coming to the area, we'll do our best to work 280 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: with you and accommodate your schedule. Just go to Vegas 281 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: UFOs dot com. It's also okay to bring uh kids. 282 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: We originally were uncertain about that, but we've decided that 283 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people in town, you know, they want 284 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: to show their kids this stuff, so we're cool with that. 285 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: So just go to Vegas UFOs dot com. But we're 286 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: not gonna be taking a lot of reservations this year, 287 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: so hopefully you'll be able to join us, So listen. Um. 288 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking about what, you know, what we were 289 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: seeing that night, and what's going on at the time 290 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: warp and what kind of beings might be coming here 291 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: from other dimensions, and I started my mind started racing 292 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: about some of my favorite bizarre, unsolved mysteries, and I thought, 293 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's some some stuff that I've never really 294 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: talked about in depth on this show that may have 295 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: something to do with visitors from these other places. And 296 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: I promise, I know this sounds like I'm going all 297 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: over the place, but I'm going to connect all of 298 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: this together for you by the end of the show. 299 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: When I was growing up, one of the weirdest beings 300 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: that I came across was this character, you know, just 301 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: in literature called spring Hill Jack. Okay, and I to 302 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: this day I am intrigued with spring Hill Jack because 303 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what what to make of this thing. Okay, 304 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: let me just sort of give you the basic story. 305 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: Spring Hill spring heeled, like, you know, a guy who 306 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: has springs on his hills who can jump really, really far. 307 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: He is an entity in English folklore of the Victorian era. 308 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: The first claimed sighting of spring Hill Jack was an 309 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: eighteen thirty seven and there are many theories about the 310 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: identity of spring Hill Jack. U. He inspired a lot 311 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: of fiction, and let me try to describe for you 312 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: in a nutshell, spring Hill Jack was this humanoid being 313 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: that kind of looked like the devil. He had horns 314 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: and sort of a Van Dyke beard, and he often 315 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: wore a cape and he would jump out of the 316 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: shadows at night and sort of terrorize people. He would 317 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: just jump out of the shadows and smack a cop 318 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: in the face and then just jump over fences and 319 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: disappear like some kind of kangaroo. Uh. There were some 320 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: occasions where he would jump out and sort of you know, 321 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: touch women inappropriately, and this became such a problem. I mean, 322 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: there were a whole special sections of law enforcement that 323 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: spent years trying to figure out is this is this 324 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: a being? Is this a man who's dressed up? Because 325 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: he would do these superhuman things. For example, sometimes he 326 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: would breathe fire in people's faces and scorch them. So 327 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: you have this guy who can hop incredible distances and 328 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: disappear in the shadows. It just comes out and does 329 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: nasty means stuff blows fire in your face. I mean 330 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: they say. Everybody said he had a frightful and terrifying appearance. 331 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: He had clawed hands and eyes that resembled red balls 332 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: of fire. One report claimed that beneath a black coat cloak, 333 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: he wore a helmet and a tight fitting white garment 334 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: like an oil skin. But some of the people said 335 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: that these flames that he would breathe out were sort 336 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: of blue and white, and his claws seemed sort of metallic. 337 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: Could this have been some kind of crazy guy who 338 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: was some kind of like diabolical steampunk dude who created 339 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: this costume, who was sort of like the evil Batman 340 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: who just decided to go around and dormant people. It's 341 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: an unsolved mystery. This went on for years, and nobody 342 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: knows to this day what spring Hill Jack really was. 343 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: And so look, let me just give you a little 344 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: bit more information about uh. Like some of the times 345 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: where people encountered him. Uh. Jane Aslop was a woman 346 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: who reported that on the night of February nineteenth of 347 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: eighteen thirty eight, She answered the door of her father's 348 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: house to a man claiming to be a police officer, 349 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: who told her to bring a light, claiming, quote, we 350 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: have spring heeled jack here in the lane. And she 351 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: brought the person a candle and noticed that he wore 352 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: a large cloak, and the moment she handed him the candle, however, 353 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: he threw off the cloak. I guess what he quote 354 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: presented a most hideous and frightful appearance end quote, vomiting 355 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: blue and white flame from his mouth, while his eyes 356 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: resembled red balls of fire. Ms All Slap also reported 357 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: that he wore a large helmet. And she's the one 358 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: who said that his clothing, which appeared to be very 359 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: tight fitting, resembled white oil skin. I'm not sure exactly 360 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: what it is, but I can imagine. Without saying a word, 361 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: he caught hold of her and began tearing her gown 362 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: with his claws, which she said, we're certainly of quote 363 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: some metallic substance end quote. She screened for help and 364 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: managed to get away from him and ran toward the house. 365 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: He caught her on the steps and tore her neck 366 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: and arms with his claws. She was rescued by one 367 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: of her sisters, after which her assailant fled. Okay, Um, 368 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: there's another case here, which is the case of It's 369 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: called the Scales case. UM. Eighteen year old Lucy Skills 370 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: and her sister were returning home after visiting their brother, 371 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: a butcher, who lived in a respectable part of the area. UM. 372 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: She told the police in her deposition that as she 373 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: and her sister were passing along this alleyway called the 374 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: Green Dragon Alley, they saw a sort of a person 375 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: standing at an angle, and she was walking in front 376 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: of her sister, and just as she came up to 377 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: the person, who was wearing a large cloak, he quote 378 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: spurred a quantity of blue flame in her face, which 379 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: deprived her of sight and so alarmed her that she 380 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: instantly dropped to the ground and was seized with violent fits, 381 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: which continued for several hours. Um. Okay, we're coming up 382 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: on a break. We come back, I'll tell you a 383 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: little bit more about like this guy, this thing, who 384 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: or what was, and perhaps some similar beings that we 385 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: have to be concerned about. Historically speaking, I'm Joshua pe Warren. 386 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to strange things on the I Heart radio 387 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast Damn Paranormal Podcast Network and I 388 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: will be right back. Welcome back to Strange Things on 389 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and STA Coast. I am Paranormal 390 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, And this 391 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: is the show where the unusual becomes usual. And apparently 392 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: in a town called Lincolnshire and the autumn of eighteen 393 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: seventy seven, spring Hill Jack was seen hopping around there 394 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: and angry mobs supposedly chased him and cornered him, and 395 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: uh some residents even fired guns at him, to no effect. 396 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: And as usual, he was said to a vague use 397 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: of his leaping abilities to lose the crowd and jump 398 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: away into the night, disappearing once again. Nobody knows what 399 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: to make of this. Uh, you know, it's been a 400 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: fixture and popular popular culture for a long time. People 401 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: in London would often equate his name with that of 402 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: the Boogeyman, the evil. The character was written into a 403 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: number of the Penny Dreadful stories during the latter half 404 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: of the nineteenth century. And even though I mean, like 405 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: some people said, this could have been this rich Irish nobleman, 406 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: the Marcus of Waterford, who had a reputation for being 407 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: mechanically gifted and like you know, and enjoyed pranking people 408 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: and had a sinister side, a mischievous I don't know. 409 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: We don't know. A lot of people think, you know, 410 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: this could be an extraterrestrial, This could be a superhuman 411 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: and entrydimensional being that, this could have been some kind 412 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: of encrypted Authors like Lauren Coleman and Jerome Clark they 413 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: list spring Hill Jack in a category they call phantom attackers. 414 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: Another example of this would be one called the Mad 415 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: Gaster of Mattun. Phantom attackers, they usually appear to be 416 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: human but maybe perceived as sort of prosaic criminals and 417 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: display extraordinary abilities. I don't know, maybe we need to 418 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: make a movie about this. Huh. There you go. I 419 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: gave somebody a good idea. But you know what, when 420 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: you when you read about this kind of stuff, it 421 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: reminds me of cases like one a little closer to 422 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: where I grew up. And when I grew up in 423 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: North Carolina and South Carolina, we had this being called 424 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: the lizard Man, first reported in the nineteen eighties. The 425 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: lizard Man was this, you know, like seven foot tall reptilian. 426 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: I think the fair maybe the first case was in 427 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: ninet the Sheriff's department investigated a report of a car 428 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: damaged overnight torn up outside Bishopville, South Carolina. Uh, tooth 429 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: marks and scratches and muddy footprints were left behind. And uh. 430 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: Then finally there was a seventeen year old local named 431 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: for Davis, who said that lizard man appeared in front 432 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: of his car one night as as a green against 433 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: seven foot tall thing with three fingers, red eyes, skin 434 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: like a lizard, snake like scales. A bunch of people 435 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: saw a lizard man and this became such a big 436 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: topic in the local news that somebody put out, like 437 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: I think it was a radio station, put out a 438 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: one million dollar reward to anybody who could capture the 439 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: lizard man alive. And oh my gosh, that created a ruckus. 440 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean, talk about a bunch of drunk nudes looking 441 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: for an excuse to go out into the swamps with 442 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: their rifles. And you know the thing is this is 443 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: still it's it's an unsolved mystery. But back like you know, 444 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: over ten years ago, I was working on this television series. 445 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: I was a cast member. It was called Paranormal Paparazzi 446 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: was on the Travel Channel. One of the stories that 447 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I covered was the lizard Man, and I figured that 448 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: it was probably just some kind of a prankster, you know. 449 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: But here I left with a different attitude. I went 450 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: down there and I actually spent time and in the 451 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: home of the man who was the sheriff at that time, 452 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: Sheriff Trusdale, and he's convinced that it was a real creature, 453 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: and he had all kinds of evidence that he showed 454 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: me and my producer, see Eric Scott, right there on camera, 455 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: and then he offered to take us out into the 456 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: swamp and show us where these incidents had happened. And 457 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: guess who joined us the current sheriff. So what we 458 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: had the current sheriff there of the county, as well 459 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: as the former sheriff uh taking, you know, chaperoning me 460 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: and Eric all around and telling us stories and introducing 461 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: us to witnesses. It's wild as a matter as a 462 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: matter of fact. If you want to see that segment 463 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: for free, all you have to do is go to 464 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren dot com and there's a section called 465 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: TV and Film Work where I give examples of some 466 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: of the stuff that I've done. On television over the years, 467 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: and you'll see that report there. And I left there 468 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: after talking to these witnesses and seeing these markings thinking like, 469 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: I believe there was a real creature here involved in 470 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: this whole mix. And now those kind of seem like 471 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: maybe these are aliens or interdimensional weirdies of some kind. 472 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: But this, I'm gonna take a little bit of a 473 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: twist here again, I'm gonna tie this together. This is 474 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: usually considered a ghost, okay, la la la la rona, 475 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: la rona Okay. In Mexican folklore, La la Rona, the 476 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: weeping woman is a vengeful ghost who roams waterfront areas 477 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: mourning her children, whom she drowned. And it says here 478 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: that this story goes back a long way, but it's 479 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: primarily I mean, like it's told throughout Mexico, Central America, 480 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: South America. They're a lot of different versions, but the 481 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: typical version is a beautiful woman named Maria. She marries 482 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: this rich, you know, rancher type guy. They have some kids. 483 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: One day, Maria sees her husband with another woman, and 484 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: in a fit of blind rage, she drowns their kids 485 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: in a river, which she immediately regrets and then she 486 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, she is consumed by her guilt and so 487 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: she drowns herself as well, but is unable to enter 488 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: the afterlife because she's forced to be in purgatory and 489 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: roam the earth until she finds her children. And this 490 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: is all throughout many of these again Latin cultures, as 491 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: as a cautionary tale and also a way of like, 492 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, scaring kids. Nobody is sure exactly where the 493 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: story of the Weeping female um phantom came from, and 494 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: you can read more about different versions of that. But 495 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: here's why I wanted to bring this up. When I 496 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: was in Puerto Rico, there was I I lived on 497 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: the southwestern coast of Puerto Rico in a town called 498 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: Bron and it was right next to town called Lajas 499 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: and La Haasa is where we had the Laguna Carthagena, 500 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: which was a the Ufo Lagoon. A lot of paranormal 501 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: stuff was happening around La Haas, and when I was 502 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: talking to people about weird stories, I would hear that 503 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: La Lorona Uh had inspired some very interesting activity in 504 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: the community and years past, I think, like in the 505 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: early nineteen nineties, they said that there was this creek 506 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: out there in La Haas where at night people would 507 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: see La Lorona and and she's got the white gown on, 508 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: and she's got the long hair, and she's weeping and shrieking, 509 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: and and I mean, this became such a big thing 510 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: that like all the high school kids would go there 511 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: and try to see if they could catch a glimpse 512 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: of this. And they were, they and they were they 513 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: were seeing this figure and fleeing in a horror every night. 514 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 1: And this went on for a long time until finally 515 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: the truth was revealed. There was this one gas station 516 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: that was nearby, and apparently I was told the guy 517 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: who owned the gas station he was trying to drum 518 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: up business, and so he would put on a white 519 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: gown and a wig, and he would go out there 520 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: and creep down along the banks of this creek at night, 521 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: you know, and come out and scared a crap out 522 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: of people all year long, because everybody who came out 523 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: would stop at his gas station and you know, buy 524 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: a snack or a drink or a fill up. So 525 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: but he finally got busted. Okay, two recents. I'm I'm 526 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: connecting all these things together. Number one is in each 527 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: one of these cases there may actually be a real phenomenon. Okay, 528 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: we don't know what the original spring Hill Jack was. 529 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: We don't know what the original lizard Man was. We 530 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: don't know the circumstances of the original La Lorona, but 531 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: it became so popular that we can feel confident that 532 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: it did inspire hoaxes to go out there and take 533 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: advantage of that and to start, you know, pranking people 534 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: and scaring people. And I know that they think they're 535 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: doing that all and good fun. But the problem is 536 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: people who take advantage of real encounters like this and 537 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: go out and use them for pranks, they muddy the 538 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: water for legitimate research. One of the main reasons so 539 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: many paranormal phenomena are easily to dismiss is because you 540 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: have one person who may go out and and try 541 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: to do a copycat fake thing. And it's possible that 542 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: there was a real spring Hill Jack, and then people 543 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: went out and decided to pretend to be spring Hill 544 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: Jack and and and abuse the fear that people had 545 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: same thing with lizard Man, etcetera. Was this a guy 546 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: in a suit? Eventually we just don't know. But just 547 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: because there are a counterfeit dollar bills in the world. 548 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean there are no real ones. I was 549 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: watching one of these shows the other day, but one 550 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: of these American greed episodes, and they were talking about 551 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: a guy who made a fortune selling fake vintage wine 552 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: for millions and millions of dollars. People will do anything 553 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: for a buck. So it becomes a big hall of 554 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: mirrors when you when you start trying to sort through 555 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: these things. But let's ask ourselves a bigger question. There 556 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: is a new story, a new news story from NASA 557 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: about a major project, a major endeavor, and they are 558 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: going to invite whatever is out there, whatever aliens, whatever 559 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: entry dimensionals, whatever being, They're going to invite them to 560 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: come here to planet Earth using a level of technology 561 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: that is well, it's it's greater than ever before. We 562 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: have better satellite dishes, we have bigger scopes, more powerful everything. 563 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: When we come back, I'm gonna tell you more about 564 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: that and say, you know, we have to think it 565 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: like is this is this a good idea? Is it? 566 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: And then also I have some pretty wild emails I 567 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: want to read to you. Um, do we want more 568 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: spring Hill? Jack's more lizard Men? I'm Joshua P. Warren. 569 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio 570 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast and Parinormal Podcast Network. I'll be 571 00:37:42,719 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: back after these important messages. Welcome back to the final 572 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: segment of this edition of Strange Things Well the I 573 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. I am Paranormal Podcast Network. 574 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: I am your host, Joshua pe Warren. And remember how 575 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: in the book and movie Jurassic Park, the big question was, 576 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: you know, just because you can do something scientifically, does 577 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: that mean you should Well, the New York Post is 578 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: saying headline, NASA to launch naked pictures of humans to 579 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: space in hope of quote, attracting aliens end quote, and 580 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: they're reporting on a story by Charlotte Edwards in the 581 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: Sun and says NASA scientists planned to launch pictures of 582 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: naked humans. Uh. The depictions will also include an invitation 583 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: to respond should an intelligent alien race find the space nudes. Fortunately, 584 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: the hypothetical aliens should not be too shocked by the 585 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: nudes because the pictures aren't that graphic, but a drawing 586 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: of a naked man and a woman next to a 587 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: depiction of DNA. The man and woman are waving and 588 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: an attempt to look more inviting. It's part of a 589 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: study called the Beacon in the Galaxy, and the main 590 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: aim is to send a message to any alien civilizations 591 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: out there. They're kind of following up on what the 592 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: Arecibo Observatory did in Puerto Rico years ago, and so 593 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: right now, um, they're sending up this radio signal. It's 594 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: a binary code basically zeros and ones that draws a 595 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: very very simple basic picture with some very very basic 596 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: colors from satellite array in California and then the big 597 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: old radio satellite the dish there in China, and uh, 598 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: let's see. I'm not sure exactly women they're gonna do this, um, 599 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: but they have some other like basic mathematical and physical 600 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: concepts that they're encoding in this about gravity um. And 601 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: it's it's not that different than what we did with 602 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: with the Pioneer plaques that were sent on the nineteen 603 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: seventy two Pioneer ten in nineteen seventy three Pioneer eleven missions, 604 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: but those were pictures like like plaques attached to the 605 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: craft and there so encountering what you'd have to to 606 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: be much much luckier to encounter one of those than 607 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: to pick up this signal that we're sending out there 608 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: right now. Now, Look, I have done my share of 609 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: inviting alien ends to come and visit us, so I 610 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: am nobody to criticize a mission like this. But look, 611 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: I realized there are people out there who say, I'm 612 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: being naive. You don't know what you're doing. You don't 613 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: want this, You don't want more lizard men, you don't 614 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: want more spring hill jacks. We these are the types 615 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: of beings that we're going to attract. I don't know. 616 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: I guess I'm too curious, and and the curiosity kills 617 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: the kid. I just say, all right, let's do it. 618 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: Let's get this over with before I die. I'd like 619 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: to see what's out there. That's just me. So I'm 620 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: okay with it, But I don't know, are you okay? 621 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: Let's move on to some listener oriented stuff before we 622 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: have to go. Uh. Let me remind you now, this 623 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: might be the last time you hear about this if 624 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: you live near Alexandria, Virginia. Jim Kalana, the composer, is 625 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: going to be debuting his composition called Joshua's Shop and Miracles. 626 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 1: Excuse me, Joshua's Shop of Miracles and Curiosities. The world 627 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: premier there will be on May twenty two at two pm, 628 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: performed by the American Youth phil Harmonic at the Rachel M. 629 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: Schlessinger Concert Hall and Arts Center. And if you want 630 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: to get a ticket to that, it's uh, they're very affordable. 631 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure. Just go to Jim Kalonna dot com. J 632 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: I M c O l O n n A. I 633 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: am honored that he has composed a piece of music 634 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: like this based upon my work. J I M C 635 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: O l O n n A. And if you go 636 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: there and listen to it, hey give me your feedback. 637 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear about it. I wish I could 638 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: be there, but I already have a trip planned and 639 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: I'll be telling you more about that my my crazy 640 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: travel schedule in the near future. Okay, so let's go 641 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: to some emails here. We have one from Crystal in California, 642 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 1: and she says in the subject lying the miraculous prayer 643 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: Board strikes again. I had some unfortunate circumstances happened that 644 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: knocked my finances way down, and then I had three 645 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: bills do and there was not even enough money in 646 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: the bank to do the minimum payments, and this was 647 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: the first for me. My stress was for the roof 648 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: many exclamation points. I scraped from everywhere and put everything 649 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: in my bill pank account and it was still short. 650 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: I was so stressed, I was getting a migraine. And 651 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: then I remember it. I haven't used the Miraculous prayer 652 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: Board in a long time, so I got it right 653 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: away and wished to have these bills paid and some 654 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: money left over because I need some more food too. 655 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: And the next day, still looking for a solution, I 656 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: checked my bank account again and I was stunned. My 657 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 1: Etsy shop had to posited. I don't want to say 658 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: how much, but blank amount of money. She says, my 659 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: shops are not due to make any deposits. And I 660 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: went to both of my shops and neither one says 661 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: they made a deposits. And yet there it is, and 662 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: my bills and food are covered. L O L. I 663 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: have never been so happy about a deposit in my life. 664 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: The Miraculous prayer Board is amazing. Many exclamation points. Well, 665 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear that, crystal and um. At 666 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: some point, if you'd like, I can tell people how 667 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: to visit your Etsy shop. But I don't want to 668 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: do that without your explicit permission, But that's cool. If 669 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 1: you are interested in experimenting like Crystal is doing, just 670 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: go to Joshua P. Warren dot com and click the 671 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: link to the Curiosity Shop and you can read about 672 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: the Miraculous prayer Board. It comes with a money back guarantee, 673 00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: but you know what, nobody ever asks for it. Okay, 674 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: And here is an email I got from a man 675 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:10,439 Speaker 1: named Ronald, and he says, UM, have you say? He goes, 676 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: what is your opinion on the s l S cameras 677 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: that some paranormal investigators use on TV? Are they truly 678 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: mapping entities? And have you ever used one? I love 679 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: your show, keep up the great content. Uh well, thank 680 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: you very much for that, Ronald. And Okay, so for 681 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: people who may not be familiar, sometimes you're watching a 682 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: ghost hunting show and they have a camera that UM 683 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: has a piece of software. They're the kind of latches 684 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: onto uh data points in our room and connects the 685 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: dots and forms kind of a stick figure that looks 686 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: very humanoid. And it's pretty compelling to see that. UM. 687 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: And I know that it was sort of invented for 688 00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: the video gaming industry, so that you could move of 689 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: in your living room or whatever, and a little camera 690 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: would be able to pick up your movements and interpret 691 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: them and uh, create an action for your avatar in 692 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: the game. And I'm sure they're used in Hollywood for 693 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: special effects. So anyway, um, I wrote him back and 694 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I have toyed with these SLS 695 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: cameras and that type of software. But here is the problem. 696 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: The tech is created biased. Now, I know that sounds weird. 697 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: You don't think of technology as being biased necessarily, But 698 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: I went on to say the software is predisposed to 699 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: look for human shapes, and so it struggles to turn 700 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: almost anything into a human shape. Now this is a 701 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: conundrum because the camera maybe picking up a real phantom, 702 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: or it may simply be trying to find something human. 703 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: So in many ways, it just mimics the human brains, 704 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: perceptions and biases. You know. It's kind of like electronic paradoia. 705 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: So I said, in a nutshell, it's it's fascinating. Before 706 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: it to be credible, I would want to see multiple 707 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: SLS cameras, at least three, capture the same figure from 708 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: three different angles. That now, that would be interesting. That 709 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: that that would be impressive. Uh. Anytime you're looking at 710 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: something from one particular point of view, then it's much 711 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: much easier to just h have you know, shadows and 712 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: reflections and optical illusions and effects that can create, you know, 713 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 1: again the connection of the dots, but yeah, different angles, 714 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: that would be cool. Okay, we're almost out of time here, 715 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: and it's pretty soon I'm going to be asking you 716 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: to go on my social media and to send me 717 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: questions about anything you want. It doesn't even have to 718 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: be paranormal necessarily. Uh. And I am going to do 719 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: oh at least a show where to where I just 720 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: sit down and answer your questions. That's gonna go in 721 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 1: any direction, I'm sure, so stay tuned for that. All right, 722 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: it is now time for you to relax, if you 723 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: can close your eyes, kick back, and take a deep breath. 724 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: This tone, it just keeps working wonders for people. 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