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Speaker 1: Ruby.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Matt, and welcome to grown up stuff.

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Speaker 1: We a but you know that it's not morning right now.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I wish that it was because it's

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Speaker 2: the best time of the day, and also because we

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Speaker 2: are talking about morning routines today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well that is true. We have author, podcast hosts

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Speaker 1: and time management expert. Oh I wish that could be me, right,

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Speaker 1: Laura Vanderkamp on the show today, and she's going to

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Speaker 1: achieve the impossible, making us all mourning people.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay, Matt, let's be real. Tell me about

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Speaker 2: your typical morning routine.

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Speaker 1: Here's how it really started to go bad. Is that

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Speaker 1: in college they give you the option to start your

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Speaker 1: classes at eleven am. An eighteen year old me was like, yes, please,

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Speaker 1: all classes start later, and I became this terrible morning person.

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Speaker 1: Where I was obviously his college is staying out late

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Speaker 1: and whatever. But I feel like I've been on a

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Speaker 1: ten year trajectory since graduating from college. I've had to

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Speaker 1: wheel myself into a morning person, and I feel stuck

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Speaker 1: kind of. But I'm getting better because my wife is

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Speaker 1: a morning person, and if I don't get up when

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Speaker 1: she's up, I'm in trouble. Good, good, good, Right, I

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Speaker 1: should be up. But our little morning routine is we

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Speaker 1: make some coffee, We do a fresh press green juice. Oh,

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Speaker 1: were those people that you hate? Yeah, and then we

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Speaker 1: do the New York Times.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, oh god.

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Speaker 1: This is I know. Wait, do I hate myself? I might? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: what's your or to tell me about your morning rous scene?

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Speaker 2: I do a lemon water Okay. So the key to

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Speaker 2: this for everyone listening is pre cut your lemons. I

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Speaker 2: cut them into four pieces, pre cut them.

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Speaker 1: The night before, like at.

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Speaker 2: The beginning of the week, usually when we get them, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and put them in a bag.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because if I have to like handle a knife first

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Speaker 2: thing in the morning, we don't want that. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: don't want that. So do lemon water. And then I

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Speaker 2: get ready and I go to my yoga class.

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Speaker 1: Usually, oh so wait, what time is this all happening?

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Speaker 1: But this is into perspective.

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Speaker 2: My alarm is set for six thirty in my body

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, yeah, what time is your yoga class? Eight? Okay? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean let me be very clear. At sex thirty,

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Speaker 2: do I do a scroll?

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Speaker 1: Yes, of course I do a little scroll in the

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Speaker 1: morning too. But it's bad. It's very bad.

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Speaker 2: It's the worst you feel it.

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Speaker 1: I go through periods of time where I keep the

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Speaker 1: phone in the other room. We talked about this because

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Speaker 1: I I'll wake up and I'll just fucking get out.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing else to do. You know, you've listened to

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Speaker 1: the birds' board. Now, yeah, it's time to get up.

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Speaker 1: But when you have the phone, dude, you could stay

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Speaker 1: in bed all day.

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Speaker 2: You could, or you could jump right up. And now

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have Laura Vanderkam tell us exactly how we're

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Speaker 2: going to take advantage of those mornings and have a

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Speaker 2: wonderful day.

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Speaker 3: Well. I'm Laura Vandercam. I'm the author of several time

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Speaker 3: management books. I host a podcast called Before Breakfast, which

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Speaker 3: is all about taking your day from great to awesome.

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Speaker 3: We talk about productivity throughout the day, but we have

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Speaker 3: a special emphasis on mornings because I have found over

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Speaker 3: the years in my research thats are a great time

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Speaker 3: if you want to make progress on your personal goals,

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Speaker 3: that is when it is going to happen. So I'm

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Speaker 2: I love that you said you're a big fan of mornings,

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Speaker 2: because I also am a big fan of mornings and

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Speaker 2: very much identify as a morning person, which was not

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Speaker 2: feel like when you say that to people, they kind

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Speaker 2: And it's like, no, wait until you come over to

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Speaker 2: that is the point of why we have you here today, Laura.

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Speaker 2: But what I really want to start with is like,

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Speaker 3: Well, if you don't mind, can we start the night before?

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Speaker 3: We'll go back even absolutely yes, Like if we're starting

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Speaker 3: let's go open our eyes. Because the truth is good

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Speaker 3: mornings do start the night before. And sometimes people have

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Speaker 3: the sun being up before everybody else. If you haven't

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Speaker 3: good morning routine, you need to get enough sleep that

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Speaker 3: you are well rested when you begin the morning routine.

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Speaker 3: And so that is about when you go to bed

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Speaker 3: of people who think they aren't mourning people, it's because

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Speaker 2: Your book is called What the Most Successful People Do

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Speaker 2: Before Breakfast, And one of the things that I loved

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Speaker 2: about it was basically suggesting going to bed in fifteen

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Speaker 2: to go to bed at ten forty five. And on

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Speaker 2: Monday night, we're going to go to bed at ten

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Speaker 2: to like a little bit of an earlier bedtime. So

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Speaker 2: that doesn't sound too bad, But I guess the thing

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Speaker 2: about that is when is this going to feel normal?

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Speaker 2: When will I get into this routine? Because some people

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Speaker 2: say it takes three weeks, it takes three months, Like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want you to go to bed at

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Speaker 3: four pm. And I do want to say there are

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Speaker 2: They are night owls.

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Speaker 3: Again, a lot of people say they're not mourning people,

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Speaker 3: a function of staying up late, scrolling watching Netflix, things

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're not talking about moving from a one

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Speaker 3: never if the Internet is particularly interesting that night. You

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Speaker 3: just want to say, like, what time would I like

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Speaker 3: need seven hours of sleep, then your bedtime is eleven PM.

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Speaker 3: This is a math problem. This is not anything about

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Speaker 3: to achieve your morning goals.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now we're in the morning. Right now we could

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Speaker 2: should do? Right when your eyes open up, see the world.

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Speaker 2: Because the thing that I've read a lot is that

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that is wonderful. If you can

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Speaker 3: treat every morning like Christmas morning. Now, I think a

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Speaker 3: I mean, no alarm clock is kind of the gold standard.

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Speaker 3: I know from time tracking seven point three to seven

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Speaker 3: but if we could get that amount, that would be great.

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Speaker 3: And if you commit to getting to sleep that amount

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Speaker 3: a long time. I set my alarm at six thirty.

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Speaker 1: Lee about that's called Brick, where basically you can brick

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Speaker 1: your phone and it'll like turn off that you can't

441
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Speaker 1: access anything that you would want to, like Instagram or

442
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Speaker 1: TikTok or whatever until you like go downstairs and touch

443
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Speaker 1: a physical device to like on brick it. So I

444
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Speaker 1: keep it downstairs and I sleep upstairs, or I'll straight

445
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Speaker 1: up leave my phone in the other room and then

446
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Speaker 1: go to bed in my bedroom. So I'm curious to

447
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Speaker 1: hear a little bit about, like why is the phone

448
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Speaker 1: such a problem when it comes to like the morning

449
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Speaker 1: and sleeping and what other things can people do to

450
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Speaker 1: kind of like get off the screens and get to

451
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Speaker 1: bed and wake up in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I think one reason it's such a temptation is it's

453
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Speaker 3: a very convenient alarm clock, and so most people just

454
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Speaker 3: set an alarm very quickly on their phones. And that's fine.

455
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Speaker 3: I mean that's a perfectly useful function for your phone.

456
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Speaker 3: But the problem is when people pick up their phones,

457
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Speaker 3: they tend not to just turn off the alarm. I mean,

458
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Speaker 3: maybe somebody's texted you overnight and that's very exciting, and

459
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Speaker 3: you look to see what that is, and you know,

460
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Speaker 3: you see that your inbox has a bigger number, and

461
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 3: you look and see what's come in, or you know,

462
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Speaker 3: you just have the icons for whatever apps you find

463
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Speaker 3: interesting and exciting there on your home screen, and you

464
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Speaker 3: know it's just a quick check. But then, of course

465
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Speaker 3: it just consumes time, and you may not have as

466
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Speaker 3: much time, or maybe don't want to choose to put

467
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Speaker 3: your time into those things in the morning, so you

468
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Speaker 3: can use things like the brick app or other blocking

469
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Speaker 3: functions on there. I think it's also helpful to have

470
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Speaker 3: something you want to do instead, because I have certainly

471
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Speaker 3: found that when I do want to do things, and

472
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Speaker 3: I have something that's in my schedule that I'm planning

473
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Speaker 3: to do, I'm just on my phone less. In general.

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Speaker 3: One reason I wound up joining a choir several years

475
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Speaker 3: ago is I realized, like in the evenings, I'm often

476
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Speaker 3: just scrolling around doing nothing of consequence, like could I

477
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Speaker 3: go take two hours and sing instead, Well, absolutely, I

478
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Speaker 3: could do that. So it's just when you fill your

479
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Speaker 3: life with good stuff, there is less sort of amorphous

480
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Speaker 3: space where we pick up the phone because we're bored

481
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Speaker 3: or want to see what's there. And so I think

482
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Speaker 3: you could take that same approach to the morning. It's

483
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Speaker 3: not just oh, I want to in general work out

484
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Speaker 3: at some point before I go to work. It's like, Okay,

485
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Speaker 3: I have a plan to run for four miles starting

486
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Speaker 3: at six am, and I know it's going to take

487
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Speaker 3: me this amount of time, and so I actually do

488
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Speaker 3: have to get out there and get doing it. If

489
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Speaker 3: I plan to get back and shower before I need

490
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Speaker 3: to go catch the bus to get into the office

491
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Speaker 3: or something like that. Or you have a creative thing

492
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Speaker 3: you're really excited about that you know, it's like, well,

493
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Speaker 3: I'm going to work on it for forty five minutes

494
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Speaker 3: this morning because I check in with my writing group

495
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Speaker 3: on Friday and they are going to ask me about it.

496
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Speaker 3: And if I haven't been doing it, it's going to

497
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Speaker 3: be obvious when I'm not sending any words around, right.

498
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Speaker 3: So I think having these things that you know you

499
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Speaker 3: are going to do and that you feel accountable for

500
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Speaker 3: doing can push some of that Internet temptation a little

501
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Speaker 3: bit further away.

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Speaker 2: I used to go to the gym and watch Love

503
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Speaker 2: Island on my phone while I was on the elliptical.

504
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Speaker 2: But the motivation was I didn't want to see what

505
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Speaker 2: the like meme accounts had posted about what had happened

506
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Speaker 2: in the episode before, so I was like, I gotta

507
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Speaker 2: get on this elliptical, I gotta watch Yeah, I got it.

508
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Speaker 2: The only thing I'm doing on my phone is watching

509
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: Love Island, and then I can look at Instagram and

510
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: then see what the jokes are about, because I don't

511
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Speaker 2: want to know who got kicked off or who said

512
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Speaker 2: something stupid, and so like that was my motivation of like,

513
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Speaker 2: don't let this be spoiled for you, So like, get

514
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Speaker 2: out there and get on.

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Speaker 3: It, out there and do it. Yeah, yeah, you gotta

516
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Speaker 3: stay on top of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, speaking of love, let's talk about most people's

518
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Speaker 2: one true love, which is coffee. And this is of

519
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: course a very important part of the morning. But a

520
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Speaker 2: lot of things will say, don't just get up and

521
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Speaker 2: hook yourself up to an ivy of coffee. That's maybe

522
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Speaker 2: not the right way to do it. Somebody once used

523
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Speaker 2: the phrase inside shower, which grosses me out, but it's

524
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Speaker 2: basically like instead of your outside chower washing your body,

525
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: it's an inside shower of like putting water into your body.

526
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Speaker 2: If I had to hear it, you all have to

527
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Speaker 2: hear it. And so you know, that was for a while.

528
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Speaker 2: But so there's there's a lot of talk of like

529
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Speaker 2: water and stuff. But again, when we're talking about creative

530
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: activities reading a book or doing our journal or whatever,

531
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Speaker 2: then like it is a nice time to have coffee too.

532
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Speaker 2: Where do you stand on, like, at what part of

533
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Speaker 2: the morning coffee comes into this routine.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that it needs to be a huge

535
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Speaker 3: matter about where exactly it is, as long as you

536
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Speaker 3: approach everything in moderation. So, like you said, I don't

537
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Speaker 3: think anyone should be hooked up to the IV with

538
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Speaker 3: caffee at either. For most people, I think if you

539
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Speaker 3: try to keep yourself to like two cups of coffee

540
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Speaker 3: a day, that's probably wise in general. So then is

541
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Speaker 3: just well when do you want them? If one small

542
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Speaker 3: cup of coffee helps you get up in the morning

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Speaker 3: and do whatever it is you're going to do, great,

544
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Speaker 3: you know, have it and then maybe you do some

545
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Speaker 3: other things and then you need one more later as

546
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Speaker 3: a way to kind of focus while you're working on something.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people might have a small

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Speaker 3: cup of coffee before they exercise, for instance, because it

549
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Speaker 3: helps wake them up and makes them feel a little

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Speaker 3: bit more energetic. But you wouldn't want a huge one

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Speaker 3: because you know, if you're out running, coffee has certain effects,

552
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Speaker 3: and you know you probably don't want to have to

553
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Speaker 3: deal with that while you're on the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm guessing too that our last cup of

555
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Speaker 2: coffee of the day should be early afternoon at the latest,

556
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Speaker 2: so that we are still getting in bed at the

557
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Speaker 2: correct time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would even not say afternoon. I think what

559
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Speaker 3: happens for a lot of people. We do tend to

560
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Speaker 3: hit an energy slump in mid afternoon, and a lot

561
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Speaker 3: of people think that would be a good time to

562
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Speaker 3: grab either coffee or canty or if you're one of

563
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Speaker 3: those people who's still smoking, which you shouldn't. But that's

564
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Speaker 3: why people would go have a smoke break in the

565
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Speaker 3: mid afternoon, right, is to wake themselves up. But I

566
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Speaker 3: think you could take some of the other parts of

567
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Speaker 3: that smoke break, which is that people go outside and

568
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Speaker 3: they get fresh air and they get away from their desks.

569
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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, we could do all that without actually smoking.

570
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Speaker 3: So if you are feeling sluggish mid afternoon, instead of

571
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Speaker 3: reaching for coffee or anything else, go take a quick walk,

572
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Speaker 3: go outside if you can get some fresh air, get

573
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Speaker 3: some sunshine. Even if it's cold, the fresh air will

574
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Speaker 3: probably wake you up. Or if if it's not feasible

575
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Speaker 3: to go outside, maybe you can go up and down

576
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Speaker 3: the stairs of your office building a few times. But

577
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 3: that will give you a lot more energy, and then

578
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Speaker 3: you don't need to have caffeine, which can interfere with

579
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Speaker 3: trying to get to sleep at a reasonable hour later.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we should make candy breaks a thing

581
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Speaker 2: now that you mentioned now, which I'll go outside and

582
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Speaker 2: eat a piece of candy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably better than the.

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Speaker 1: Cigarette, right, Yeah, affirmation and candy. Yeah. One thing that

585
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Speaker 1: people say all the time is that breakfast is the

586
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Speaker 1: most important meal of the day. And so I would

587
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Speaker 1: like to talk to you a little bit about breakfast.

588
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Speaker 1: And I'm kind of curious because I've had my own

589
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Speaker 1: journey with breakfast and I don't track my sleep, but

590
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Speaker 1: one thing I do track is like my macros to

591
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Speaker 1: make sure I'm hitting my proteins and my carbs and

592
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Speaker 1: my fats. And so basically what I found is if

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Speaker 1: I'm eating three meals a day, I'm over on all

594
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Speaker 1: of those things. And I kind of also realize that,

595
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Speaker 1: like breakfast takes a lot of time in the morning.

596
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Speaker 1: And so now I'm one of those intermitted fasting people

597
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Speaker 1: where I'll have lunch around eleven, we'll have dinner around six,

598
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Speaker 1: and like that's enough food for me, and it kind

599
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Speaker 1: of freeze up my morning a little bit. You know,

600
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Speaker 1: I can wake up and I don't have to have breakfast,

601
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Speaker 1: Like I can just like go do something. But then

602
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Speaker 1: people say breakfast is important meal to day, So am

603
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Speaker 1: I missing out on something? What is the deal with

604
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Speaker 1: breakfast in the mornings?

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Speaker 3: I think there's been evolving knowledge on this matter, and

606
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: breakfast is probably a personal choice based on how you

607
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 3: intend to spend your mornings. For people who are trying

608
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: to say train for distance races, I think there is

609
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 3: a real need to have some sort of carbohydrates in

610
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Speaker 3: your body before that happens. So if that's you, then

611
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: probably you do need something in the morning, you know,

612
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Speaker 3: whatever that happens to be. If that is not you,

613
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Speaker 3: then maybe it's something different. If you're hungry when you

614
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: wake up, I don't think there's any harm in eating

615
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: something that's balanced and healthy. First thing. If you are

616
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Speaker 3: not hungry when you wake up, I don't think you

617
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Speaker 3: have to force food into your mouth just because somebody

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Speaker 3: has once told you that breakfast is the most important

619
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Speaker 3: meal of the day. I seem to recall that that

620
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Speaker 3: was like cereal manufacturer, I know, right, pushing that too,

621
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Speaker 3: which I'm pretty sure that even if all the way

622
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Speaker 3: is the most important of the day, that's probably not

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Speaker 3: what most of us should be eating at that point.

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Speaker 2: That was our candy break because that was basically the sugar. Yeah.

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00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good thing to keep in mind.

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00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've covered most of the basics here

627
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: to like really set ourselves up for not only a

628
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 2: productive morning, but productive day to follow. But is there

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Speaker 2: anything that we haven't touched on yet that are some

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Speaker 2: of the tasks that you recommend that we do first thing,

631
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Speaker 2: whether it's sort of like boring tasks or chores or

632
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: things that we can get done in the morning, get

633
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: them out of the way, and then go out into

634
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Speaker 2: the world and be perfectly smug about being mourning people.

635
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Speaker 3: Wow, we perfectly smug. Yeah, that sounds exciting. Well, I

636
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: think a number of people do think through their days.

637
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Speaker 3: Hopefully you know what your morning routine is and you've

638
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: thought through what you intend to do first, But then

639
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: what do you plan to do the rest of the day.

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Speaker 3: What does the hard landscape of your day look like? Meetings, appointments,

641
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Speaker 3: what other tasks need to get done and when dwiden

642
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: tend to do those around there? And then I would

643
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Speaker 3: actually suggest people might want to think about this, think

644
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Speaker 3: about what your evenings are going to look like. For

645
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: many people, evenings are entirely mindless. You are done with work,

646
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: you're either wrestling your kids to bed, or you are

647
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: consuming media or whatever it is you're doing. But it's

648
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: often not an intentional time of day. But you might

649
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: think in the morning, well, if I was going to

650
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Speaker 3: do something intentional for thirty minutes in my evening, what

651
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: would that be? And by knowing that, you might be

652
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: able to look forward to that and have another sort

653
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: of productive peak of your day, like oh, I'm going

654
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Speaker 3: to read this book in the evening, or I'm going

655
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Speaker 3: to practice a musical instrument for thirty minutes of the

656
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Speaker 3: evening because I can't do that in the morning because

657
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Speaker 3: I'll be waking my spouse up or anything else along

658
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: those lines. But with morning routines, I think it's helpful

659
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: to realize a couple things. One is, a morning routine

660
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be endless. Like I love writing about

661
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 3: people who have these like three hour morning routines. I

662
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: enjoy that love hearing about that, it does not have

663
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: to look like that. So if people are like, well,

664
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: I can't do that because I have a toddler, or

665
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: I have to be at work at six thirty, so

666
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: it's just not feasible to wake up that much before

667
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: my professional morning starts, it's okay. A morning routine is

668
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: anything that but you are choosing to do to start

669
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: your day off right. So maybe for you, it's that

670
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: you read ten minutes of something meaningful and that is

671
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: your morning routine. Or you decide to do a fifteen

672
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: minute strength training session and that is your morning routine.

673
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: It's only fifteen minutes, but that's great. If you do

674
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: it day after day, or at least a couple days

675
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: a week, you're going to get stronger and that is

676
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: the other thing. A morning routine doesn't have to be

677
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: every single morning, and it doesn't always have to look

678
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: the same either. I find an interesting thing is even

679
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: many people who tell me that they have a daily

680
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: morning routine are not doing it seven days a week. Yeah. Yeah,

681
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: So when they say daily they mean Monday through Friday.

682
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes they don't even mean Friday because that's in a

683
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: different category entirely. But then we're down to four times

684
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: a week. I'm like, Okay, that's not daily, but it's regular. Yeah,

685
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: So whatever it is that you're doing, as long as

686
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: it's regularly in your life, I think it can still

687
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: count as a morning routine. So if it doesn't work

688
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 3: on Thursdays and Sundays for some reason, there is no

689
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: reason to beat yourself up about that. That is perfectly fine.

690
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: You can choose to do different things too. So if

691
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: all you have is fifteen minutes maybe three mornings a week,

692
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: you do a strength training session, three mornings a week,

693
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: you get up and meditate or do some sort of

694
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: creative work, and then one morning you sleep in, that

695
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: would be a perfectly fine way to have a morning routine.

696
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: I think that would hit all the boxes and be great.

697
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Did someone say sleep in.

698
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been one morning a week.

699
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I really do think I'm a person who

700
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: needs like nine to ten out like nine definitely, ten

701
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: sometimes pretty good. Eight not enough.

702
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, if you know that about yourself, I mean

703
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: you just build it in. There's nothing you can do

704
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: about it if it's true. Right, Yeah, there's some people

705
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: who need less, Like I kept reading for a while

706
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: about Martha Stewart needing four to five hours is sleep

707
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: every night, which is fine. If that's what she needs,

708
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: that's great. But most adults need seven to eight hours.

709
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: But there are many adults who need more than eight hours.

710
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: And if that's what you need, there's no point in

711
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: like denying it and trying to get by on less.

712
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: You will just crash. And it's far better to get

713
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: the about the amount of sleep you need every single

714
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: night than to undershoot several days in a row and

715
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: then need to crash for several days in a row.

716
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: And you don't have to be like Martha Stewart, you

717
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: don't have to be perfect in everything. It's okay find

718
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: out what works for you. So, okay, we've been talking

719
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: in the morning, but I want to go a little

720
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Speaker 1: bit bigger. You've written extensively about just time management in general,

721
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Speaker 1: and so, as someone who you know work a ton,

722
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: I've got tasks left and right, Like, I'm always thinking

723
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: about ways to manage my time and to be a

724
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: little bit more productive during the day. So could you

725
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: share any like general time management tips tricks with the audience.

726
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: My first tip that I always share with people if

727
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: you want to spend your time better is to figure

728
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: out exactly where your time is going now, because time

729
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: keeps passing no matter what you do. A lot of

730
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: people have very faulty impressions of where it actually goes.

731
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: And I include myself in this category. Like, until I

732
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: started tracking my time regularly, I had all sorts of

733
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: ideas of how much time I spent on different categories

734
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: in my life. And then I started tracking my time

735
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: week after week for a long time, and I realized

736
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: that I was often very, very wrong. And it's human nature.

737
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: We tend to overestimate things we don't want to do.

738
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: Like people tend to overestimate how many hours they are working.

739
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: They tend to overestimate how much time they spend on

740
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: housework because they don't want to be doing housework. They

741
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: underestimate how much leisure time they have because we feel

742
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: like we don't have as much as we want. But

743
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: not as much as I want is a very different

744
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: thing than like none, which is what a lot of

745
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: people will tell themselves. So you want to make sure

746
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: you are working from good data, and the only way

747
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: to get that data is to actually keep track of

748
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: your time. So anyone wants to spend their time better,

749
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: try to track your time for one week, for one

750
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty eight hours. That is twenty four times

751
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: seven one hundred sixty eight hours.

752
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: See where it goes.

753
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: I don't know where it goes, but you will probably

754
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: find something interesting. And the upside of doing that is

755
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: you may start to see that there are pockets of

756
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: time that are either available for you if there is

757
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: something you wanted to do, or you could re deploy

758
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: that time from something that is less important to you

759
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: to something that is more important to you if you

760
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: made certain arrangements in your life.

761
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: You're clearly the expert here. But as being the expert,

762
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've tried a lot of different advice out

763
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you're somebody who has. Again, if not daily,

764
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: then certainly a regular morning routine. Has there ever been

765
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: any mourning routine advice that's been like a suggested habit,

766
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: try this, try to do that that you have tried out,

767
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: and you've been like, absolutely not, I am not adding

768
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: this to my morning. I am not doing this. This

769
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: is not a productive way for me to start my day.

770
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Speaker 3: The point of a morning routine is not to do

771
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: something in the morning, just to do it in the morning.

772
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: It's that for many people, morning is the time that

773
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: they can have for themselves and for their own goals

774
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: before everybody else wants something from you. And so if

775
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: you are in a corporate environment, if you have a family,

776
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 3: these are all obligations or wonderful things, but they're obligations

777
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 3: that you have later in the day, whereas those are

778
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: less likely to have various emergencies at say five thirty

779
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: in the morning, and so that is time you can

780
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: have for yourself. And so that's why people use mornings.

781
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: It's not that in and of itself, exercising in the

782
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: morning is a much more perfect choice than exercising later

783
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: in the day. It's that for many people, you can't

784
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: exercise later in the day, and so doing it in

785
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: the morning is when you need to. But if your

786
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: life is different than feel free to do it whatever

787
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: works for you.

788
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: It's good advice. I had mentioned the brick app earlier,

789
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: and I'm curious. You know, there's all kinds of to

790
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: do list apps, tracking stuff, planning stuff. I'm just curious

791
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: if there are any like apps or books or anything

792
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: that you recommend that helps you keep better track of

793
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: your time.

794
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: So I actually just track my time on spreadsheets. It's Excel. Yeah,

795
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: it's functional enough. I have the days of the week

796
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: across the top, Monday to Sunday, half hour blocks down

797
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: the left hand side, running from five am to four

798
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: thirty am. So if anyone's listening to that, feel free

799
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: to go make yourself one. You can get one from

800
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: my website too if you want to, or vandercam dot com.

801
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: But trust me, it's just Excel. It is nothing fancy.

802
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: You could do this yourself in two minutes if you

803
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: wanted to, and that's simple enough for me. There are

804
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: dozens of time tracking apps on the market, and some

805
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: people really enjoy using them. There's all sorts of productivity

806
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: apps out there as well. I have to say i'm

807
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: a little bit skeptical because the problem with apps in

808
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: general is that they make your phone more interesting, and

809
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: the more things you need to check on the phone,

810
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: the more times you will be picking up your phone.

811
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: And that would be fine if all you did is

812
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: went to your productivity app, but many people don't stay there,

813
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 3: they go elsewhere, and so then whatever time you would

814
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: have gained with your productivity app has just been swallowed

815
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: up by all these other things that you did with

816
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: your time because you picked up your phone. So I'm

817
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: pretty low tech for so many things. I actually have

818
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: a paper planner, but I love it. I like sitting

819
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: there with nothing around me, like no electronics, and writing

820
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: out what I intend to do. That's my little treat.

821
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: I love that. Also, if anyone does want to make

822
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: not even an Excel sheet, but if you want to

823
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: just make it actually on paper too, then you can

824
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: put little doodles and stickers on it and really jazz

825
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 2: up your whole thing that you're looking at of your

826
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: spreadsheet of time. So that's just a little arts and

827
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: crafts tip from me.

828
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you are doing it on a spreadsheet,

829
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: I know somebody who pastes in photos into their spreadsheet,

830
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: Like at the end of the day, they'll put in

831
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: a little photo of like what happened, and the cap

832
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: columns a little bigger, and as they can do that,

833
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: it becomes like a digital scrappy.

834
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of fun. That's great. Well, Laura, you've

835
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: given us so many amazing tips. Today. We are ready

836
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: to get our regular morning routines on track. But before

837
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: we let you go to one last thing. So say

838
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: we get into our good groove. But then, of course

839
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: there's always going to be that morning mercury will be

840
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: retrograde where everything goes wrong. How do we get our

841
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: days back on track if our morning just throws us

842
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: completely off you know, spilled coffee, late train, all of

843
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: that stuff, How do we then just center ourselves and

844
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: move on with a smile instead of just crawling back

845
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: into which is usually the option I go for.

846
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's life. I mean, life happens, and I

847
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: think it's not reasonable to expect everything to go perfectly

848
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 3: every single day. And one of the reasons I talked

849
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: earlier about how even people who say they have a

850
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: daily morning routine don't do it every single day is

851
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: that I think that that can give us permission that

852
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: if it doesn't happen some morning. We don't feel like

853
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: it's the end of the world. We don't feel like

854
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: we need to stop. One reason to choose things that

855
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: you want to do is it will help you get

856
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: back in the habit if things do go awry, like

857
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 3: if you get the flu and you can't do your

858
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: exercise routine for a week. A lot of people use

859
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: that as an excuse to stop exercising completely, right, it's like,

860
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: you don't have to do that. Maybe it's that you

861
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: didn't like the form of exercise you were doing. Is

862
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: there something that you would find more compelling that would

863
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: make you want to go back? So you're sad that

864
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: you missed, you know, two weeks of your spin class,

865
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: but you really do like your spin class, and so

866
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: you do want to go back there. I mean, you

867
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: should try to find things to include in your morning

868
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: routine that are like that you have a more elaborate

869
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: morning routine. It might also help to have a short version,

870
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: so there is you know, long version of the morning

871
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: routine for the mornings when things go as they are

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Speaker 3: supposed to go. But what is sort of the minimum

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Speaker 3: viable version of it for a day when that is

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Speaker 3: not the case and have that in your mind for

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Speaker 3: mornings when things are not going as you wish, because

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Speaker 3: then that can also keep you from saying, oh, this

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Speaker 3: is just terrible, it's never going to work. It's like, well,

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Speaker 3: I just did something. Yeah, it wasn't everything, but it

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Speaker 3: was something, and often something is absolutely good enough.

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Speaker 2: This conversation has been way more than good enough. Laura.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sharing so many good tips

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Speaker 2: with us. I'm like annoyed that it's not morning right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to start the day all over again. But

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Speaker 2: you get to tomorrow, so that's not fun.

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Speaker 1: And you had mentioned your website, Laura vandercam dot com.

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Speaker 1: Is there anywhere else that people can find you and

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Speaker 1: learn more about the work that you do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, please come check out my before Breakfast podcast.

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Speaker 3: I also co host one called Best of Both Worlds,

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Speaker 3: which comes out every Tuesday. Co hosts that with Sarah Hartunger.

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Speaker 3: We talk about issues of work in life from the

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Speaker 3: perspective of people who really love both Oh love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, check it out, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Laura, thank you so much. I would say, have a

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Speaker 2: great day, but also really have a great morning.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much. Thank you. For having me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, Matt, what is one new thing that you

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Speaker 2: learned from our chat today that you're going to incorporate

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Speaker 2: into your morning routine for tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: The biggest takeaway for me is the night before so crucial.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember talking about your sliced lemon wedges? How

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Speaker 1: great is it that you presliced those? That's one last

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Speaker 1: thing for morning Leah to do.

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Speaker 2: It's true, it's like future Leah is so happy. Same

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Speaker 2: with filling the tea kettle. If you fill your tea

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Speaker 2: kettle the night before, then all you got to do

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Speaker 2: is press a little button.

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Speaker 1: A little button, or if you've got a timer on

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Speaker 1: your tea kettle, it'll just start boiling.

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Speaker 2: What kind of futuristic equipment are you dealing with?

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess I think you've missed your coffey.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, but you're going to incorporate the night before routine.

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Speaker 2: So that means today, are you ready to start a

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Speaker 2: day changing your morning?

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Speaker 1: When I go home, Leah, I'm starting to change the

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Speaker 1: mornings right now. And I think what I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: isn't going to lay out my little workout clothes and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna like prep my workout space at home, and

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Speaker 1: then I can kind of just jump into the clothes

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Speaker 1: and go downstairs.

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Speaker 2: Already picturing which workout clothes are gonna lay out for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have the great top of the black shirt.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, perfect, sounds very fashion.

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Speaker 1: But what are you taking away from this discussion with Laura?

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Speaker 2: Well, I liked the having a long version and a

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Speaker 2: short version of a morning routine. That to me feels

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Speaker 2: good because sometimes, like in the weekday is probably going

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Speaker 2: to be the short version. The weekends maybe the long version.

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Speaker 2: So I like that you know you can sort of

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Speaker 2: modify it depending on the day.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I love that. I feel like I always

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Speaker 1: want the long version. Yeah, it's true. You're kind of

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Speaker 1: setting yourself up for failure when you have a limited time.

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Speaker 1: For example, like I work in the office. Sometimes this

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Speaker 1: morning I didn't do shit because I came to the

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Speaker 1: office and if I had a little short morning routine

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Speaker 1: that maybe take fifteen minutes instead of an hour.

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Speaker 2: Did you have time for your juice?

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Speaker 1: No, it didn't even juice today. What about the crossword

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Speaker 1: we did that? Oh, okay, it was a little hair

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Speaker 1: for the letter. Yeah, it was a little hairy this morning.

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Speaker 1: We're a little stressed out, but it went well. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, So what's coming up next? On grown up Stuff?

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Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite things in the world.

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Speaker 2: We are going to be talking about voting.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the pillars of society but also pillars

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Speaker 1: of adulthood.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not just for the stickers, even though I

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Speaker 2: do love a sticker, but there is so much more

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Speaker 2: about it that really, like Chazz is me up. I

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Speaker 2: get so excited to vote every time, but there's a

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Speaker 2: lot that we don't really know about it or understand

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Speaker 2: about it. And so we are going to have an

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Speaker 2: expert explained voting to us on all levels and why

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Speaker 2: it's important, and why we need to make sure we're

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Speaker 2: engaged and out there and filling in those little boxes

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Speaker 2: and having our voice heard, and how.

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Speaker 1: Laws vary from state to state, and why you should

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Speaker 1: be staying on top of your voter registration.

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Speaker 2: That is true. So until next time, good luck being

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Speaker 2: a grown up.

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Speaker 1: This is a production of Ruby Studio from iHeartMedia. Our

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Speaker 1: executive producers are Lea Polmery.

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Speaker 2: And Matt Stillo. This episode was edited and engineered by

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Speaker 2: Sierra Spreen

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Speaker 1: And we want to thank our teammates at Ruby Studio,

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Speaker 1: including Sarah You, Ethan Fixel, Rachelswan, Krasnoff, Lydia Kim, Amber Smith,

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Speaker 1: Harper Waine, Deborgherrett, and Andy Kelly