1 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory podcast. My 2 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman, once again here with you as 3 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: well as my podcast partner Steven Tolbert. Last night it was, 4 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, it was a fun podcast 5 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: being able to recap a victory for the Braves at 6 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: seven to one victory over the Brewers. We talked about 7 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot of good things, talked about really hoping that 8 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: this could be the catalyst to help us have a 9 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: good week. And here we are on Tuesday night and 10 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: we're right back to morth Raves Bats fall silent and 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: in a game that clearly they had the opportunity to win. 12 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: But once again, Sam old same o for to one 13 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: loss to the Brewers. We're gonna right down a bit 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: of it, plus talk about, you know, some bigger story. 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: So it's a. 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: Bigger you know thoughts, you know in terms of you 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: know a little bit more long term in terms of 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: this season and even beyond. And we'll also look at 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: tomorrow's matchup between Spencer Swallerbach and Chad Patrick of the Brewers. 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: But Steven, always good to get to do these with you, 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: even when it's the same old, same bowls rents wash repeat, 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: non existing offense shows up once again. 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: I mean, if you just want a snapshot of what 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 4: the last year and a half two years have been, like, 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 4: just watch these last two games. 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean, this is it. 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: This is what we've done for the last eighteen months. 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: Is one game offense looks great, next game offense is terrible. 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: And you know they had chances. A Kunya started off 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 4: three innings with a hit, and each time the two, 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: three and four hitters you know, went down in order 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: every time. And you know, Grant Holmes pitched pretty well. 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: I mean Grant Holmes didn't pitch like great, but like 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: Grand Holmes is your fourth starter, and he gave up 36 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: three yearned runs and five plus innings. I mean again 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: it's not like ACE level stuff. But I mean he's 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: not the reason you lost, certainly, I mean the reason 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: you lost can't you can't score. And you know, we're 40 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: gonna talk about some of the individual guys, but like 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: I think they're two through six hitters were one for 42 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: fifteen tonight. So I mean, and then you know what, 43 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: you know, the bottom half of the order is not 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: exactly like the greatest in the world anyways, So like 45 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: when you're two through six, go one for fifteen and 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: the one was a two out double for Matt Olsen 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: that ended up doing nothing. So I mean essentially no 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: impact on the game from two through six in the order. 49 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: That's that's the game. 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not fun, like it's just it's not fun. 51 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: And that's what stands out to me, Steven about this 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: is that, you know, when we look at you know, 53 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: some of the individual numbers, we look at it, we 54 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: think to ourselves, Okay, Chris Sale is back to pitching, 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: and he's been pitching for the past six months like 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: a cy young contender. Spencer Swellenbach is pitching. Well, we'll 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: talk about him a little bit later on in the show. 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: Our starting pitching overall has been doing pretty well. Last 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: night we were six Austin Riley, six hundreds of a 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: point from Austin Riley being with our other top five 61 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: guys all of them having eight hundred ops's. When you 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: look at the whole picture, this team certainly seems to 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: be better than their record is. But then it gets 64 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: back to the same old story in that you could 65 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: just never have all these guys on the same page 66 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: for an extended period of time. It's not only you know, 67 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: one night when one day when our offense goes well, 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: our bullpen struggles or our starting pitching struggles, but within 69 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: the offense itself, Akunya has a great game set on 70 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: the table and then no one can do anything behind 71 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: just goes back to that same point and that individually, 72 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: several of these guys are, you know, not necessarily living 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: up to what you expect from them, but as a whole, 74 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: they just cannot get on the same page. And we're 75 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: not gonna get anywhere. We're not gonna get close to 76 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: anywhere that we want to be until that story changes. 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you can't score. You can't win scoring 78 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: one run. You really can't really just win scoring two run. 79 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how many times. 80 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 4: We said this, The only way you're gonna go on 81 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: a run is if you're consistently scoring. You cannot play 82 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: one run games, low scoring games all the time and 83 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: win seven in a row, eight in a row. 84 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 3: You're not gonna do it. You gotta be able to score. 85 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: You gotta be able to be team seven to one 86 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: like they did last night, but you gotta sustain it, 87 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: like that's the only way to go on a run, 88 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 4: and the bravest starting pitching has been plenty good enough 89 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: to go on a substantial run, but they can't score. 90 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: And you know, all and Riley looked just miserable tonight. 91 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: First three at bats was a strikeout, a strikeout, and 92 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 4: a ground ball double play after three Akunya singles. Ozuna 93 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 4: is in a big funk right now. 94 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: I think he's he was over four again tonight. 95 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know. I don't know if he 96 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: needs an off day, I don't I don't know. I 97 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: don't know if you need to try Baldwin and Murphy. 98 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: You know, I saw people mad that you know, Riley 99 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 4: was in the two hole. I just can't bring myself 100 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: to care about where these guys bat in the order. 101 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 4: I know, if you look at like career numbers, but 102 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: like most of that stuff is just most of that 103 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: stuff should just be random. Like it It's not like 104 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 4: Austin Riley's talent level changes because he's batting second in 105 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: the order versus third in the order. Like I just 106 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 4: can't imagine that matters. And I understand Drake Baldwin didn't 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: play to night, but Drake bald was hitless last night 108 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 4: and Murphy had two hits tonight, Like I have a 109 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: hard time. 110 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: I had people blaming the. 111 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: Fact that that Baldwin didn't play as the reason they 112 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: didn't win. I mean, Murphy wasn't the reason they lost tonight. 113 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: Like two through six went basically hit, basically zero impact 114 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: from two through six in the order, Like, and they're 115 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: not gonna win. 116 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: I mean, this is what we're gonna get. 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: If they score one or two runs like this, Like, 118 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: you're just not gonna win these games. You know, when 119 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 4: Chris Sale pitches, yeah, you can win probably a one 120 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: to nothing game. When Spencer Swallenby pitches, yeah, you can 121 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: probably win a two to one game. But like when 122 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 4: Grant Holmes Bryce Elder pitch, like they're gonna give up 123 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: a couple of runs, you gotta at least get three 124 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: or four on the board. When these guys pitch and 125 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: this offense can't even do that. And until that changes, 126 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: nothing changes. 127 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: I mean it's not easy, but it is simple. 128 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: Like until that, until they score consistently, they're not winning consistently. 129 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: And here is how small of the margin is. Last year, Steven, 130 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: I think it was you who was the source of 131 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: breaking up the fact that four runs was just the 132 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: ceiling for this offense. 133 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: They could just not. 134 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: Score more than four runs, and that once again is 135 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: the case this year. 136 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: But here's how. 137 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: Significant a minor margin is. Since twenty twenty four started, 138 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: the Braves have scored four are fewer runs one hundred 139 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: and thirty two times in games they have a three 140 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: to eighteen winning percentage. 141 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: In those games. 142 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: When the Braves score five or more runs, which they've 143 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: done ninety five times, they win seventy nine percent of 144 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: their games. One run is literally the difference between winning 145 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: thirty percent of your games and eighty percent of your games. 146 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: And for this offense to ask for them to average 147 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: five runs would not be being a top three offense 148 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: in the league. It would be being then slightly above average. 149 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: If this offense can ever get to average in five 150 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: runs a game, we could see the run that we need. 151 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: But it just it is such a monumental ass for 152 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: this offense to do it, and it is just so 153 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: mind none. But once again, I don't mean to be repetitive, 154 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: but I just want to repeat when we score four 155 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: or last runs. Since the start of last year, we 156 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: win thirty one percent of our games when we score 157 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: five or more runs we win seventy nine percent of them. 158 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: Seems like a simple ask, but it just can't happen. 159 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: And for a team that was built on offense, and listen, 160 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: they've changed the ball, the ball is different one hundred percent. 161 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: They've probably been disproportionately screwed by that as much as 162 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 4: any team in baseball because they were built on power. 163 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 4: And if you look at you know, a big stat 164 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: going around right now is what percentage of barrel baseball's 165 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: leave the park? Right And every year in the last 166 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: like four years, the percentage of barreled balls that actually 167 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 4: go for home runs is going down and down and 168 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 4: down and down. So like the ball is different, it is, 169 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: But you know, the Yankees are still scoring. The Dodgers 170 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: are still scoring. Like it's not an excuse, it's not. 171 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: It's not good. Like these guys make. 172 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: A ton of money and they get paid to produce 173 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: and this crap where they they're like, well, yeah, but 174 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 4: we get hot in like July, Like all right, well 175 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: you can't take three months of the year off Like 176 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: that's you know, I don't know if the Braves have 177 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: just assembled the streakiest bunch of hitters ever assembled in 178 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 4: the history of. 179 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: The sport or what. 180 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: But like. 181 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: It's just not good enough. It's not good enough playing 182 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: and simple and like you just said, until they score, 183 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: until this changes, this is what we're gonna get. Are 184 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 4: we gonna get a team that's ten games under five hundred? No, 185 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: probably not. They can probably fake it a little better 186 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 4: than that. But you're not gonna get a good team. 187 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: You're not gonna get. 188 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 4: Like a World Series caliber team until this team can score. 189 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: And it's like the last eighteen months have been like 190 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 4: watching every single playoff game for the last three years. 191 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: That's what the last eighteen months have been like. Where 192 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: like the pitching does pretty well, the offense no shows. 193 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 4: And again tonight one run. One run came off of 194 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: Nick Allen double. 195 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 3: Which is hilarious by the way. 196 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: And a Ronald Acuna Junior single, and those both of 197 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 4: those events happened with no one out. So the Braves 198 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 4: out Akunyon first, Riley Olsen, Ozuna up for the third 199 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: time in the game. Akunyon first with no one out 200 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: and Riley Olsen and Ozuna up. And not only did 201 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: Akunya never score, Acunya never moved, he never got past 202 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: first base. They never even moved him up a base 203 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: and listen, Acunya is not gonna run. That's been made 204 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: abundantly clear. They have told him not to run like 205 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 4: he has not attempted a stolen base, and so they're 206 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 4: just telling him, listen, you're bad as too important. We 207 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 4: can't get you hurt on the bases. And I completely 208 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 4: agree with that. That means Austin Riley, Matt Olsen and 209 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 4: Marcelo Zuna need to do their damn job and drive 210 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 4: him in. I mean, he's got like a four to 211 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: eighty on base percentage since he's been back, and. 212 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: They can't score. That's crazy. 213 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: I mean, he's been better than I ever could have 214 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: hoped he could have been when he since he's come 215 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: back and they still can't score a damn run. 216 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: It's it's it's infuriating. 217 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely. You know, we can look at it 218 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: from so many different perspectives. We can you know, bring 219 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: up you know, different solutions, all this different stuff. It's 220 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: the same message bottled up in a slightly different way 221 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: each and every podcast, and you know, at the end 222 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: of the day, it's just it is very infuriating and 223 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: just it's it's mine. 224 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: I mean. 225 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: But you know, we talk about how it seems like 226 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: such a simple ask that if this team could just 227 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: score one more run per game, their fortune can make 228 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: a one to eighty overnight. Well, that's exactly what they 229 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: need to happen. 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I think you know somewhere around 260 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, eight and a half to eight games out 261 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: of a wild card spot currently. In other words, the 262 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: stack is decked to gets them when it comes to 263 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So now I'll be just completely all honest, Steve, 264 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: and I feel that this may be the case for you. 265 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it is more likely than not that 266 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: the Braves are going to miss the playoffs this year. 267 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: I just feel that that's the case. Here here's the 268 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: biggest reason why. You know, when we talk about what 269 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: the Braves need to do in order to be able 270 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: to even start the conversation of the playoffs, be it 271 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: a potential outcome for this season, it's they've got to improve, 272 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: and they've got to improve quickly. And the people bring 273 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: up when they talk about the Braves, they bring up, 274 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, the Mets from last year, or they bring 275 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: up what the Braves did into twenty twenty two when 276 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: they came back, you know, from ten games down to 277 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: early June to win the division against the Mets. But 278 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: there's one thing that's in common. I know the Mets 279 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: were it last year. I think the Braves were one 280 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: or two. The thing that stands out is that, yes, 281 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: the Braves being able to overcome their current deficit in 282 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: the standings to make the playoffs, it would not be unprecedented, 283 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: that's true. But the thing that people don't consistently mention 284 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: is that the reason why the Mets were able to 285 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: make such a big leap, they were able to come 286 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: back and being so far back in early Jude, they 287 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: were the best team in baseball from early June through the. 288 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: End of the season. 289 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: I think that's an ask for this Braves team because 290 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: even if they score the five runs a game that 291 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: we just mentioned, they need to for the rest of 292 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: the season this year when they score five or more runs, 293 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: there's still league average. When it comes to winty percentage, 294 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: they would eighty two percent of their games when they 295 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: score five or more runs, but that's still the average. 296 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: The point that I'm getting at is is that you 297 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: could tell me, and I'll be the one to tell 298 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: you as well, to think positive, to have hope. Yes, 299 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: it could happen. But the big thing about it is 300 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: that overnight they've got to become the best team in baseball. 301 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: For them, they have the best chance to it happened, 302 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: and that just again seems to be an impossible ask. 303 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 304 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: I mean if you look at all the you know 305 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 4: the different sites that measure playoff odds, and you know 306 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: what percentage this team is likely to make the playoffs, 307 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: The Braves are like eighty twenty now to not make 308 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: the playoffs. So I mean, if you if you believe 309 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: in those percentages, then you know that's a one in five, 310 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: right won it? There's one percent out of five that 311 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: the Braids will win to make the playoffs or eighty 312 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: percent chance they won't. So and I don't I mean 313 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: that that honestly even feels high to me. I might 314 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: even maybe I might even go lower than that. I'm 315 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: not even sure it's I'm not even sure i'd give 316 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: it a twenty percent chance. I might give it a 317 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: ten percent chance. Honestly, they've just dug themselves such a hole. 318 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: And like you said, they have to play. I mean, 319 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: they have to play like seven hundred eight hundred baseball 320 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: to get back in this thing. And they got to 321 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 4: do that for like three months. They can't even do 322 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: it for a week. They can't even do it for 323 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: a series. I mean, we haven't seen them stack like 324 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: really great offensive games together, like three in a row 325 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: and like two years. I mean, forget doing it for 326 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: a month or two months or three months or four months. 327 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: They can't do it for a week. 328 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: So no, I don't. 329 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: I mean, no, there's no chance. I'm gonna say they're 330 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: likely to make the playoffs. This team, as we sit 331 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: here today, this team, in my mind, has about less 332 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 4: than a ten. 333 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 3: Percent chance to make the playoffs. 334 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 4: And I can't believe I'm saying that on June tenth. 335 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: Never would have in my wildest dreams imagine that. But 336 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 4: you gotta face reality. I mean, we're not gonna sugarcoat it, 337 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: you know, we try to be as honest as we 338 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 4: can be on this podcast, and I do not expect 339 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 4: the Brads to be in the playoffs. 340 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna need. 341 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 4: To see a substantial amount of fantastic baseball before my 342 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 4: opinion on that changes, because they're they're ten games back 343 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: in the wild card. I mean, forget the division, the 344 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 4: divisions over for the Braves, but like just a wild card. 345 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: They're ten games back. 346 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 3: And like teams like the Brewers. 347 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: And the Giants, you know, Arizona has the Arizona has 348 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: the tiebreaker over the Braves because they they won the 349 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: season series. The Padres have the tiebreaker over the Braves 350 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: because they won the season series. So whatever you see 351 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: in that game's back column in the wild card standings, 352 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: it's actually one game worse for those against those specific 353 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 4: teams because the Brads have already lost the head to 354 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 4: head tiebreaker. So no, there's no chance. I'm saying the 355 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: Braids are more likely to make the playoffs. 356 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: And ten percent might be too high for me. I 357 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 3: might be in like closer to. 358 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 4: Five percent as we sit here today, the Breads are 359 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: not making the playoffs. 360 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, these sites, as well as the opinion of many 361 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: The best way that I could put it is that 362 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: the Braves playoff chances are not yet buried. But the 363 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: eulogy has been written, it's been edited, it's been looked over. 364 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: We're close to it. 365 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: Being very We're very close, like they're one more bad 366 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: streak away from just being buried and the season being over. 367 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: They'll they'll they'll be buried. 368 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: So if that's the case, then you know, conversations are 369 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: going to start shifting from you know, the hope of 370 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: what could be this year to what needs to happen 371 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: to not be in this position moving forward. And one 372 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: thing that is very clear, the one thing that I've 373 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: talked about and I think it's supported are are pitching. 374 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: One thing that has improved this year is our defense 375 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: has been very good. Matt Olson, Michael Harris, the second 376 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: Nick Allen have been among the best defenders in baseball. 377 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: But unfortunately, our offense just is not good enough to 378 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: have players at multiple positions who have so much of 379 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: their value tied up in defense. And I'm specifically talking 380 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: about centerfield as well as the shortstop position. I looked 381 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: it up earlier tonight, Steven. You know how the Braves, 382 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, did at the shortstop position when it came 383 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: to runners in scoring position. Last year, up through June 384 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: tenth of two of the twenty twenty four season, the 385 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: brave shortstop position with runners in scoring position, their WRC 386 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: plus was a one with Orlando Rcia as the main shortstop. 387 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: This year, with Nick Allen is the main shortstop. Up 388 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: to this point in the season, the WRC plus with 389 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: the shortstops with runners in scoring position is a twenty four. 390 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: Last year we were thirtieth. This year we're twenty eighth. 391 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: The point that I giddy Dad is is that if 392 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs are just not going to happen this year, 393 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: then you've got to find ways to improve the overall 394 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: offensive output from all your positions. You hope Jerks and 395 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: Provar does that at the left field for the future, 396 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: but the shortstop position simply comes into focus. If there's 397 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: going to be moves that are going to be made, 398 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: one thing that is abundantly clear, you've got to find 399 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: a shortstop. I know notch Alvarez is about start to 400 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: rehab assign it. I don't think he's the answer. Nick 401 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: Allen clearly isn't the answer. You have been preaching that 402 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: this should be a priority. It is now more clear 403 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: than ever that is one area where you can no 404 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: longer sacrifice offensive output. 405 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you the thing I never want to 406 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 4: hear again, and we've heard it for the last two 407 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: or three years, is that, well, this guy can bat 408 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 4: ninth and if the other eight guys in the lineup. 409 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: Are doing their job, then it's okay. 410 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: There is now a very large sample size showing that 411 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 4: counting on eight guys in this lineup to all be 412 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 4: doing their job at one time is not gonna happen. 413 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: The Braves have just assembled. 414 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: Too streaky a collect too streaky a collection of hitters 415 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: to expect that you're gonna have eight of them going 416 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: at once. At most, the Braves have like two or 417 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 4: three guys going at once and it ain't given time, 418 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 4: which means you cannot just have automatic outs in your 419 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 4: lineup anymore. And even if you're worse on defense, listen, 420 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 4: the Braves are one of the best defensive teams in baseball. 421 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: And there's ten games under five hundred. 422 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 3: Okay, so are you gonna be worse on defense? 423 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 4: Yes, fine, we gotta score, gotta score runs, and listen 424 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 4: with Michael Harris, it's tough. I don't know what you 425 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 4: do because you're locked into him for six more years, 426 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 4: seven more year, whatever that contract is. And he's making 427 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: real money now. I think he's making like ten million 428 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 4: dollars a year. So like, you're kind of stuck there. 429 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly you are. I mean, unless you're gonna 430 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: trade him, which I mean you would be trading at 431 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 4: an all time low. But like left field and shortstop 432 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 4: have been black holes for two years now, and I 433 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: understand Jerkes and Profar is gonna come back and maybe 434 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 4: he will be better. But until I see that with 435 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: my own two eyes for a substantial amount of time, 436 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna believe it. I'll tell you that I'm not. 437 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: I do not trust Jerkson Profar to do anything until 438 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: I see it at shortstop. I just every time we 439 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 4: talk about shortstop, that same thing comes up. We're like, well, 440 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: if the other eight guys are doing their job, you 441 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: can have a you know, you can have kind of 442 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: an automatic out in the night spot. But that doesn't 443 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 4: happen with his team. The other eight guys are never 444 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: collectively all doing their job at the same time. 445 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: That doesn't happen. 446 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: It's just too it's too streaky a hitters for. 447 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: That to happen. 448 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 4: So Alex has got to get that mindset out of 449 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 4: his brain. And we just can't have automatic outs anywhere 450 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 4: in the lineup because everyone else is too streaky. We 451 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 4: gotta have guys at every spot in the lineup that 452 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 4: at some point can produce, at some point, can get 453 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 4: hot and be an actual offensive plus for you and 454 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: not just always a drag on the offense. I mean, 455 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: it seems like the last three weeks, every single time 456 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 4: the Braves have two runners on Nick Allen is up, 457 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 4: and the exact same thing happened last year with Orlando. 458 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: It just seemed like every single game Orlando was coming 459 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 4: up in the biggest spot of the game, and we 460 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: just can't. We got to get rid of that mindset 461 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: because it's not working. And you know, they haven't had 462 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 4: a shortstop since Dansby left. You know, I know they 463 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 4: got they got lucky. Quite honestly, what the year that 464 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: Orlando had in twenty three. I mean, the Braves have 465 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 4: basically been playing backups and bench players at shortstock for 466 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 4: the last three years. They got lucky one year, though 467 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: the last two years have been a disaster. I know, 468 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: Nick Allen is a great defender, but the problem with 469 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: this team is they can't score. So we gotta get 470 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 4: We gotta find some some guys who can play, who 471 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 4: can hit, and stick them in this lineup because there's 472 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: just too many other guys in this lineup who don't 473 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 4: hit an insane amount of the time. And and so, yeah, 474 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: one hundred percent, I agree with you this mindset that 475 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: you can have a couple of black holes in your 476 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 4: lineup because everyone else is going to magically do their job. 477 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: That's got to go away. 478 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: And the thing that I also want to hit all 479 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: before we, you know, get into tomorrow's game. You know, 480 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: the series finally with the Brewers is that this isn't 481 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: sane that the Braves should have spent the money that 482 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: was required to resign dance responsor that's not what we're saying. 483 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: What we're saying is is we just need to find 484 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: it to where we can bring in someone that we 485 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: feel confident will not will not offer league worst production 486 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: at Shortstop's. 487 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 3: There's something. 488 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 4: There's something in between giving Dancy s wants and one 489 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty million dollars and having guys who can't 490 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 4: hit their weight Yeah, like, there's a whole spectrum in 491 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: between those two, and we got to be able to 492 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: find someone in between there. 493 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, a serviceable defender who also could potentially put somewhere 494 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: between it eighty and one hundred WRC plus at the 495 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: play at least when runners are in scoring position. 496 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 2: That's all we're asking. 497 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: That's that's the whole thing about this offense is that Again, 498 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: I know that I mentioned just a few minutes ago 499 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: that this team will have to be towards the top 500 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: of the league, even probably best in the league to 501 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: actually have a chance at the playoffs this year. But 502 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: the way that you start that is just getting league 503 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: average offensive production at the majority of your positions, or 504 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: at least have it the majority of players in your 505 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: lineup do it as they're expected. But again, don't want 506 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: to get in too much of a rant, but to 507 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: your point that you so eloquently made, is that no 508 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: more can you sit here and sacrifice offensive production for 509 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: good defense because you just do not have that room 510 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: for error when it. 511 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: Comes to this lineup. We've talked so. 512 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: Much about guys who need to get the job done. Thankfully, 513 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: we're going to see someone on the mountain tomorrow who 514 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: has been getting the job done. In a bit more 515 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: on just how special this season potentially could be for 516 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: spitcher Swillow Box here just a moment after another word 517 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: from our partners. 518 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 6: I just want to say, before Arena Club, if you 519 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 6: were trying to very actively buy sell trade, it was 520 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 6: very complicated and used a lot of mail that was unnecessary. 521 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 5: I don't know I even know how to do it, 522 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 5: but I'm glad we have Arena Club now because it's 523 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 5: a one stop shop for everything card related. 524 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 6: It is, and right now you can get twenty percent 525 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 6: off your first slab pack or your first card purchase 526 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 6: by going to Arena club dot com. Slash foul, use 527 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 6: code foul. If you're a collector, you've got to check 528 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 6: out Arena Club. Go get after it. 529 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: So Stephen, of course, you know we talked about yesterday 530 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: how special Chris Sale looked on the mound. You know 531 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: something that I want to say. I mentioned it on 532 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: Twitter earlier today, but I saw a tweet where Chris 533 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Sale over his past ten starts, had had I believe 534 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: it was a sixty eight etings pitch, sixty six sixty 535 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: eight etings pitch something like that. Eighty three strikeouts in 536 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: a one point sixty one er. There's no brave in 537 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: the history of the franchise. As pitching rich as we've 538 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: been over the past fifty years, there's no brave who 539 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: over a ten game span have produced those numbers are better. 540 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: And the only. 541 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: Lefties over the age of thirty five who have ever 542 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: had a span like that Steve Carlton, Randy Johnson, and 543 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: Chris Sale. That's how not only special but historic Chris 544 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: Sale has been recently. So we know that Chris Sale 545 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: is going to make the All Star Game. As a 546 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: matter of fact, I feel with it being in Atlanta. Whoever, 547 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: who's going to be the manager of last year's World Series? 548 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: It's gonna be Dave Roberts again, right or will it? Yeah, 549 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: we will be Dave Roberts. Who's gonna be the manager 550 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: of the World Series. I think that, you know, out 551 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: of respect, he'll probably give the nod to Chris sil 552 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: if he continues to pitch. 553 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: Well. 554 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: But let's talk about another pitcher who I think could 555 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: work his way into potentially being in the conversation for 556 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: the National League All Star Team, and that Spencer Swellingbock. 557 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: I don't think he's there yet because he's gonna have 558 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: to put together another two or three weeks worth of 559 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: good production. But I think he could work out to 560 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: be an All Star pitcher. But beyond that, what I'm 561 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: glad to have The reason why I'm glad to have 562 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: this conversation Spencer swelling Block about six weeks ago looks 563 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: like he looked like he was potentially going to have 564 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: a sophomore slump. But over the past month he's righted 565 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: the ship and once again he has showing himself to 566 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: be a top front line starter. Steven, what are your 567 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: thoughts think that there's an All Star chance with Spincher 568 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: Swellerbck there and just how excited are you to be 569 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: able to see him on the mound in a big spot. 570 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, It's always tough with pitchers because you always have 571 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: guys who make the team who end up pitching like 572 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: the Sunday before the All Star Game, and there's always 573 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 4: there always ends up being a ton of replacements on 574 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: top of the normal you know, injury variants that happens 575 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 4: with pitchers. So like Spencer probably hasn't he probably hasn't 576 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: fully had an All Star first half. He just had 577 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 4: that such a rough stretch there at the beginning. He's 578 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 4: been awesome lately. I mean, you know, his last two 579 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: or three stars have been just like last year. I 580 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 4: mean he was he's been awesome, and the strikeouts have 581 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: really gone up, you know, ten to eleven strikeouts, the stuff. 582 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 4: He's still in one hundred miles an hour these days. 583 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: But you know, all Star nods it's gonna be tough. 584 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: It just depends on how many they take. I agree 585 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 4: with you, Chris Sale is gonna be in the team. 586 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 4: I mean, the Braves have to have a representative, so 587 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 4: even if they didn't, Chris Sale would be on the team. 588 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: But there's a chance the Braves have one representative in 589 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 4: the All Star Game that's in Atlanta, which is Let's stake. 590 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: That's what they deserves right now, that's what they deserve. 591 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I would give I would put a Counya 592 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: on there, just because it's more fun to have a 593 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: Cunya on the roster than not. But I understand the 594 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 4: people like, well, he's only played for you know, three weeks, 595 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: not even three. 596 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 3: Weeks, and only played like fifteen games. 597 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 4: So I understand that. But yeah, I mean it's very 598 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: very possitive if not likely the Bridves are gonna have 599 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 4: one representative in their home ballpark, and it should be 600 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 4: Chris Sale. I'm guessing he will start the game. Schwellenbach's 601 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: just gonna come down to how many. I doubt he 602 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: makes the first cut like when they officially announced, but 603 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: I could definitely see him being added as a replacement 604 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: as guys drop because of injury or they pitched too 605 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: late on Saturday or Sunday or not gonna be available to. 606 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: Actually pitching the game. 607 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 4: There's always a bunch of starters added late, so you know, 608 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 4: that's probably his best chance. But if he goes out 609 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: and dominates the next three or four outings, I mean 610 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 4: he's you know, he could get his name up there. 611 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 4: It's not too late, you know, you could. You know, 612 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: he's probably gonna get I don't know when the actual 613 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: voting is, like when it ends, but well, starters don't 614 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: get voted on anyways. Starters are just picked by the manager, 615 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: aren't they. It's only the position players that get voted on. 616 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm yes, that's correct. These the pitchers, 617 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: I believe, are picked by the staff. 618 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: Yes, they're just selected. Yeah, so he's got I mean 619 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: he's got another three weeks four weeks to so, yeah, 620 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 4: he's got plenty of time. If he pitches like he 621 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 4: has the last few outings, he's got a great chance 622 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: to be on the All Star team. But he's got 623 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 4: to keep it up because he's already had kind of 624 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: his low point of the season. If he has another one, 625 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 4: that's gonna kill his chances. So he's got to stack 626 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: probably five or six more really good ones, and yeah, 627 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 4: he could be on the team. 628 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 3: That wouldn't surprise me. 629 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And to be honest with you, I think I 630 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: owe a bit of an apology because tomorrow is going 631 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: to be a pretty fun pitching matchup. It's actually going 632 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: to be Spencer swelling Boch of the Braves against someone 633 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: who right now you could make a case he is 634 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: the front runner for the National League Rookie of the 635 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: Year running, and that's Chad Patrick of the Brewers. You 636 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: want to talk about someone that could be on the 637 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: All Star team. Patrick himself is putting together a bit 638 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: of a pretty reasonable All Star resume. So yesterday I 639 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: made it seem like, you know, Spencer Swellingbick overwhelmingly was 640 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: going to be, you know, the best pitcher on the 641 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: Mount Chad Patrick is pretty good himself, so the Braids 642 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: are gonna have the work come out for him. And 643 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm never just not going to not be able to 644 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: do this. 645 00:31:59,360 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: A good week. 646 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: I still have the play we lost nine. It sucks 647 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: we lost, and I know, and I don't mean to 648 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: be annoying, but you get the job done tomorrow. 649 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: You got it. 650 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: You're coming off a series win, you got an off day, 651 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: and then you've got the Rockies, So a good week 652 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: is definitely still there. 653 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: But again, I try. It's just it's it I try. 654 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: It's just it's as as I say it, as I 655 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: get through that thirty second spill of trying to be positive, 656 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: I have the energy for the first five to ten seconds, 657 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: and then it's just like, Yeah, you're. 658 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: Just you're You're just you're you're you're so pure hearted, 659 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 4: you're just so you're just a You're just a positive guy. 660 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: You can't help it, you know, And. 661 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: It's gott for punishment. 662 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: It's it's I wish I would love to be like that. 663 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: I would love to be able to just look on 664 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: the bright side of this, But they win them. 665 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm kind of in the same spot I 666 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: was last week when we talked like even if they 667 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 4: win tomorrow, I'm gonna assume they're gonna. 668 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: And I chose that this team just absolutebsolutely they'll figure 669 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: out a way to wet the bed over the weekend. 670 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 671 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: They just they cannot gain momentum and hang on to it. 672 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: They just they can't stack too, Like good games in 673 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 4: a row absolutely forget stack in like a month or 674 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: two months, and they can't do it for a series. 675 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: So like it's just tough man for me, it's just 676 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: tough to Yeah, it's tough. 677 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: But hey, like I say, we mentioned it every show 678 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: and we're gonna keep mentioning it until the times get 679 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: better to where we can have multiple shows in a 680 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: row like we did last night. We're gonna be here 681 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: to cover it, win or lose. Offenses on offenses, off sales, 682 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: making history, swelling box, making history. You see Zebras flying. 683 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: If you were in Middle Tennessee earlier this week, you 684 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: did see exactly that. Regardless of all that, can't thank 685 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: you enough for joining us here on the Hammer Territory Podcast. 686 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: My name is Sean Coleman. You can find me at 687 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: Stat's sec on x Slash, Twitter Steven tober at b 688 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: Underscore Alliers, one of the best when it comes to 689 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: covering the Braves. Brad Roland and Scott Coban will be 690 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: making his triumphant return tomorrow night, with Brad Rowland covering 691 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: the series with the Brewers and looking ahead to the 692 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: series against the Rockies. Hammor Territory across all forms of 693 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: social media, part of the Foul Territory family of podcasts. 694 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: Until next time, Go Braves. We'll talk to you again soon. 695 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: Here a Hammer Territory podcast.