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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. My name's Rob.

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Speaker 3: Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And today our planet needs blood.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready to give some? We're going to be

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Speaker 3: talking about the nineteen fifty seven Roger Korman drive in

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Speaker 3: science fiction horror picture Not of This Earth, And I

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Speaker 3: think Not of This Earth is a great fit for

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Speaker 3: this show because it is simultaneously stupid, dated, micro budget

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Speaker 3: sci fi drive in film that is extremely hack in

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Speaker 3: a lot of ways, it's very nineteen fifty seven, but

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Speaker 3: within all those boundaries, something in there feels kind of

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Speaker 3: scrappy and spunky and fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a movie that certainly doesn't start with a

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Speaker 2: lot of weirdness to a certain extent, but it manages,

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Speaker 2: I feel like, to nurture it, or create a healthy

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Speaker 2: environl for it to thrive. So by the end of

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Speaker 2: the picture you have scenes where it's just like two

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Speaker 2: boiled egged alien spies carrying out lengthy mental conversations with

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Speaker 2: each other out in public, which is just a bizarre

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Speaker 2: scene like this is just so far removed from the

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Speaker 2: human experience, and you find it in films like this.

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Speaker 3: One of the funny. So, this is a film that

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Speaker 3: involves alien telepathy, and I thought you could make a

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Speaker 3: great cut of this film if you just take out

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Speaker 3: all of the audio from the alien telepathy, so they're

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Speaker 3: just long scenes of people looking at each other and

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Speaker 2: It would be a great way to create a film

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Speaker 2: that would be easily dubbed in other languages, right if

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Speaker 2: and then its voice over, which there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: it in this There may be more of it in

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Speaker 2: this film than any other like psychic film that I've seen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have not seen either of them. But

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Speaker 3: this film spawned two remakes that came out within seven

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Speaker 3: years of each other. So there's an Not of This

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Speaker 3: Earth from nineteen eighty eight, directed by Jim Waynorski of

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Speaker 3: Chopping Mall starring Tracy Lord's and then there's a Knot

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Speaker 3: of This Earth made in nineteen ninety five starring Michael

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Speaker 3: Yorke of Austin Power's Omega Code Fame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those, I've not seen either of those. I

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Speaker 2: don't think I want to see either of those. I

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Speaker 2: like some of the people involved. I mean what Tracy

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Speaker 2: Lords was in Blade, right, she was in the original Blade,

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Speaker 2: Michael Yorke's is just in a ton of Class A

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Speaker 3: So he's in the Christian Apocalypse movie The Omega Code

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I think I saw parts of that one.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, Michael york is kind of genre

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Speaker 3: Okay, Elevator pitch on Not of This Earth. This is

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Speaker 3: the nineteen fifty seven version we're talking about. So the

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Speaker 3: And eventually it's up to Nadine and several assorted dudes

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Speaker 2: If that is not a recipe for success, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what is. Shall we go ahead and have a

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Speaker 2: little bit of the trailer?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this killer the theme of the Most Diabolical Kind

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Speaker 5: Satisfy a desperate need never before known, a need that

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Speaker 5: He came to destroy the people of this planet, leaving

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Speaker 3: All right? So there you hear some of the trailer audio.

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Speaker 3: If you're familiar at all with like late fifties drive

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Speaker 2: This is our first nineteen fifties film that we've focused

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Speaker 3: Yes, And in fact, so we were casting around, like

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Speaker 3: But what was the other side of that double bill?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes it makes perfect sense, you know.

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Speaker 2: Corman's Camp, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I mean a lot of these Corman drive

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. I think I may have mentioned this before.

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Speaker 2: There's a wonderful episode of CBC Ideas titled The Cult

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Speaker 2: Movie Cannon. Real quick, if you're not familiar with CBC Ideas,

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Speaker 2: this is a Canadian radio show slash podcast. It is terrific.

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Speaker 2: It covers so many different topics. Generally you'll you'll hear

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Speaker 2: In this episode the Cult Movie Canon, they spoke with

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Speaker 3: I want to live in that time period. I want

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Speaker 3: Maybe, by the way, we may have to do a

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Speaker 2: what he had to say about Not of This Earth.

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Speaker 2: He writes that it's Corman's most enjoyable science fiction film

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Speaker 3: about Roger Korman. Obviously, he was the producer and director

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Speaker 3: Not of This Earth, was released in nineteen fifty seven.

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Speaker 3: Corman directed nine movies that were released in nineteen fifty seven,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mister science Theater three thousand fans will remember this

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Speaker 3: rugged face, like he looks like he's had some I

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00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: don't know, some windburn in his day.

435
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a is one of these faces is

436
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: just like a slab of meat, a slab of aged meat,

437
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: which is great for I imagine what he probably did

438
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: a lot in his career playing heavies. You know, he

439
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: has a great, great heavy face.

440
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 3: He is USDA prime. Yeah, And according to multiple sources

441
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: I was reading, Paul Birch walked off the set of

442
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: Not of This Earth. He abandoned the movie before it

443
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: was finished filming, and this was after he and Corman

444
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: got into a physical fight, because apparently Birch was angry.

445
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: He was unhappy about a lot of things. Number One,

446
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: I read that the contact lenses that he had to

447
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: wear to make his eyes totally white, which is one

448
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 3: of It's an extremely simple makeup effect that is I

449
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: think quite effective in the movie. The aliens have eyes

450
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: without pupils, and so he's wearing these lenses. But they're

451
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: not like little I don't know, They're not the nice

452
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 3: kind of contact lenses people would wear today. I can

453
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: just imagine they were probably like trying to jam, you know,

454
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: milk carton caps under his eyelids, and so he said

455
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 3: that they hurt his eyes and he was tired of

456
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: wearing them. But he was also demoralized by the pace

457
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: of shooting. I think he was like, this is crazy.

458
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: You're shooting, you know, forty scenes in a day, and

459
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: the low budget of the movie, which Birch reportedly thought

460
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 3: was beneath him. So he got mad. They got into

461
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: a fight and he left, and they had to use

462
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: a double to finish shooting his scenes. Apparently there weren't

463
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: too many scenes left. He'd done most of his work

464
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: for the movie. But I gotta say I didn't notice.

465
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: Me neither, and I was looking for it because I'd

466
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: read that before watching the film, and I was I

467
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: guess the thing is my mind instantly went ed Woods

468
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: Plan nine from Outer Space, which notoriously they were shooting it.

469
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: Bella Lagosi, one of the stars in the film, died

470
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: and they finished the scene with the awful scenes where

471
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: somebody's just holding the cape over most of their face

472
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: as a stand in for Bella, and it's just it's terrible.

473
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: So I guess I was kind of expecting something more

474
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: like that, but I could not find the scenes. I

475
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: saw no evidence of the replacement, which is good.

476
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think one big difference is that in Plan

477
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 3: nine they had only actually shot one or two scenes

478
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: with Bella, and so most of the movie it's his replacement. Here,

479
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: I think they already had most of it done and

480
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 3: they had to do a few more.

481
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: And it's good because Birch really brings a great energy

482
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: to this film. He's wonderful in this. I think he

483
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: pretty much carries the picture with his weird, smoldering and

484
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: kind of inhuman lines.

485
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: The way he reads.

486
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: Them get a real the same quality that is present

487
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: in The Simpsons later when King and Codos disguised themselves

488
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: as human politicians and say weird alien things in a

489
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: dramatic voice, like, that's pretty much him throughout the picture.

490
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: I think so. Yes, the voice of Kangan Codos, I

491
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: think might well be a parody of Not of this Earth.

492
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: I'm not positive, but that wouldn't surprise me at all.

493
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: No, that would make sense.

494
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: Okay. Rounding out the rest of the cast, you've got

495
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 3: Jonathan Hayes, who was a regular Corman player. He plays

496
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: Jeremy in this movie, who's just this no good, low

497
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 3: life creep who works for the alien. He's sort of

498
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 3: like an unwitting slacker wren Field. So if the alien

499
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: is Dracula, he's his wren Field without realizing he's his

500
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: wren Field.

501
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: And without being like really creepy, Like he's not a

502
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: he's more of just like a real world creep as

503
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: opposed to an alien or monster movie creep.

504
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 3: Right. You know, I don't want to give the wrong

505
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 3: idea about the comparison with w Renfield. I mean, he

506
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: he's just a dumb jerk. Yeah, but also I was

507
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: looking up this actor. So he did a bunch of

508
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: Korman movies, but he also at some point had a

509
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: void acting part in the TV cartoon The Angry Beavers.

510
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: You remember that show.

511
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: I don't think I do. I mean it vaguely rings

512
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: the bell, but it sounds like something I saw on

513
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: ad for and didn't watch. Is that like a Nickelodeon

514
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: thing or something?

515
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, nineties, I think. Okay. Then after that

516
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: you have Morgan Jones as the lug hero what's his name,

517
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: Harry something. He's like the cop who is Beverly Garland's

518
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: police officer love interest. I would say definitely the most

519
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: forgettable actor in the movie. He's in some ways, you

520
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: could argue he's the hero of the film, though he's

521
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: not in a lot of the movie. And I can't

522
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 3: even picture his face now, just like a just like

523
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: a gray blank space.

524
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's perfectly fine in this, but he's just

525
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: interchangeable with plenty of other actors of the time.

526
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, though he was. I looked it up. Morgan Jones,

527
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: the guy who played him was in Forbidden Planet, which

528
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: is a movie that's very interesting and maybe worth visiting.

529
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: On the higher budget more well recognized end of the

530
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: Weird House spectrum. At some point, there's another major character

531
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: played by Annalie Carroll. She it looks like her other

532
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 3: notable roles. She was in I don't know, some TV

533
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: stuff here and there. She was in the nineteen sixty

534
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 3: eight adaptation of the Heart as a lonely hunter with

535
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: Alan Arkin. And then you have an assortment of longtime

536
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 3: character actors playing various just victims who get murdered by

537
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: the alien. So there's an actress named Gail Ganley who

538
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: plays a girl at the beginning of the movie who

539
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 3: gets her blood drained. She has some other acting credits,

540
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 3: but it looks I thought this was interesting, Like she

541
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: eventually became primarily a sound effects or a folly artist,

542
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: so she did movies like Earth Girls Are Easy, and

543
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: she did Commando with Arnold Schwarzenegger, which makes me wonder

544
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: if this actress from Not of This Earth was the

545
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: person responsible for creating like the sound effects for steam

546
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: shooting out of Vernon Well's guts when Arnold Schwarzenegger throws

547
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: the pipe through him, or like the sound effects of

548
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: him throwing the circular saw blade. I don't know, maybe

549
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: so next, there is Harold Fong as a man who

550
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: gets hypnotized and then crushed in a horrible teleport malfunction.

551
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 3: Fong acted in a ton of movie and TV roles

552
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: through the forties and the seventies, including playing a chauffeur

553
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: in Cheech and chongs up in Smoke. I gotta say,

554
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: I think my least favorite thing about this movie is

555
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: I feel like Fong's character gets really shabby treatment in

556
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: this movie. I wish they'd given him a little more

557
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: personality on the page.

558
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like his role is unfortunate because he's

559
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: credited only as specimen and is referred to by the

560
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: alien as a subhuman, which we'll get into that in

561
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: a little bit, Like that's more of an artifact of

562
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: the terminology used in the screenplay. But then he's referred

563
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: to by other characters via a derogatory racist term, which

564
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: was in common use. I guess at the time not

565
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: to forgive it at all, but yeah, I would say

566
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: that his presence in the film, or his role in

567
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: the film anyway is it feels a little ichy, and

568
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: it's my least favorite part of this picture.

569
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely me too. I feel like there's room that

570
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: more could have been done with this character, like if

571
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: he'd had like a personality and stuff of his own

572
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: to act out, because there is an interesting plot point

573
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: you get where so he's playing a Chinese American character

574
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: who speaks Chinese. And at this point we learned that

575
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: the aliens can communicate telepathically in any language, because so

576
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: far we've only seen Paul Birch communicate telepathically in English,

577
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: but he speaks Chinese just as easily to this man.

578
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: So it brings up this idea of like, well, is

579
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: he really communicating with language at all or with some

580
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: kind of thing that transcends language.

581
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot they could have done with it.

582
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, big missed opportunity here.

583
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: Now to come back to another Corman player who's got

584
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: a bit role in this movie, Dick Miller appears as

585
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 3: a door to door vacuum cleaner salesman who gets burned

586
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: alive in the alien's basement furnace. We've talked about Dick

587
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: Miller a lot recently. He came up in the Chopping

588
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: Mall episode, maybe even in another episode.

589
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: Possibly. Yeah, Dick Miller is going to continue to come

590
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: up because he's he's in a lot of these films.

591
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: And this scene is just dynamite because he's just he's

592
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: a snappy door to door vacuum cleaner salesman, just trying

593
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: to make that sale. And meanwhile, you know, our our

594
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: our lead alien character is like, I am not interested

595
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: in your vacuum cleaner. Human, please leave before you you

596
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: are drained and and and incinerated. And Dick Miller's like,

597
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: who whoa, whoa, hear me out, Fella, hear me out.

598
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: This guy's got great attachments. Just let me go through it.

599
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: This is just a demo, and it's wonderful. It's just

600
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: a wonderful scene.

601
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: Dick Miller. They should have cast Dick Miller in the

602
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: the cop boyfriend role because he could have. I mean,

603
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: they should just give him more screen time. Apparently he

604
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: improvised a lot of his dialogue in that scene.

605
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: That way, Well, this was like super young Dick Miller too,

606
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: Like he was a he was a dashing cat. He

607
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: could have totally been the lead. I would have I

608
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: would have bought that. I would have been more in

609
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: He's He's probably the non alien male character that I

610
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: most invested in this film. And he's just there to

611
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: the typical Dick Miller thing, which is have a few

612
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: snappy lines of dialogue and then snuff it.

613
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe we should get into the full plot breakdown.

614
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: Are you ready, let's do it? Okay, So I would

615
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: say it begins strong artistic choice. We begin in media

616
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: res no credits, no title, not yet. We'll get to

617
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: that in a minute. And it just opens on a

618
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 3: car with some make out point youths smooching in the

619
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: front seat. I guess they're bench seats. And then you

620
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: get some opening dialogue where the young lady says, I

621
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: think it's time I cut out now, and then the

622
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: young man says, don't be a drag. You know how

623
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: you flip me, and she responds, I'm hip. But then

624
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: she persuades him that she's got to go. She says,

625
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: if my father dug the scene, he'd put small round

626
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: holes in your head. And then the guy's like, yeah, yes,

627
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: it is pretty late, but I love the way they're

628
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: trying to capture like hepteen dialogue in the way they

629
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: talk here.

630
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they did. That's the thing I wouldn't.

631
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that I would be able to tell,

632
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: you know, if this is if this is one of

633
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: those sort of hello fellow kids moments, or if this

634
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: is an accurate depiction of how hip teenagers spoke at

635
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: the time.

636
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Very funny. So anyway, she's like, okay,

637
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: So she's getting out of the car. She says, good night, Pops,

638
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 3: you're a gas. Why does she call him pops? They

639
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: seem to be the same age. Was that a normal

640
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: thing back then? You call your boyfriend pops?

641
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 2: Maybe? I mean, I'll accept it.

642
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: Anyway, he tells her she's a doll. He leaves, and

643
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: she skidaddels, goes on her own way. So she goes

644
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: up a walk up some stairs through an old iron gate.

645
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: I'm wondering immediately where is this. Is this like the

646
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: yard in front of a house or is it a

647
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: park she's cutting through at the location was unclear, but

648
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: once she's through the iron gate, things just immediately go

649
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: up to ten for spooky stock footage of an owl

650
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: hoots at her. There are these frogs croaking everywhere, the

651
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: shadows of the tree branches fall ominously over her, and

652
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: then suddenly she runs into a large man, a man

653
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: wearing a suit with a fedora and sunglasses. He's carrying

654
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: a metal briefcase that looks like it could contain the

655
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 3: nuclear football. It's that kind of thing. And at first

656
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: she's startled, but she tries to say hello to him,

657
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 3: no response. Then he removes his sunglasses and we don't

658
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: see his eyes, but she does. And if you know

659
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 3: your fifties horror movies, this is your standard scream faint,

660
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 3: the scream faint two step. And I can't prove it,

661
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: but when she falls down, there is this rattling sound effect.

662
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 3: In fact, you get this rattling sound effect every time

663
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 3: Paul Johnson the character takes his sunglasses off and shows

664
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: someone his eyes. It's like this scuttling, rattling kind of crackle.

665
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: And I think this is a sound effect that is

666
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: also used in an attack of the crab monsters.

667
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: Okay, well that would make sense given the how all

668
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: this came together. I will say in the teen character's defense,

669
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 2: doesn't everybody when exposed to those eyes in this film,

670
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: they scream and faint?

671
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: Well you know, actually, now that you say that, maybe

672
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: that's a good point. Dick Miller does too. Everybody pretty

673
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: much everybody, Yeah, but.

674
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: Usually it's just the female character. So this is like

675
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: a rare picture where everybody has the same response to

676
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: the terrifying gaze of the alien.

677
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: Right, So she collapses on the ground in the grass,

678
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: and then the mystery man opens up his metal briefcase

679
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 3: next to her unconscious body, and he removes some clear

680
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: plastic tubing that runs to a series of canisters inside

681
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: the briefcase and hooks the tubing up to her throat

682
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: in some way we can't see, and then dark liquid

683
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 3: begins to flow. And then finally he looks into the

684
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: camera and we see his eyes all white, no pupils,

685
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 3: and then bam credits. And on top of that, I

686
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: gotta say, very cool opening credits. I genuinely love them.

687
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: Hand drawn backgrounds of skulls, hands, dripping caves, stalagmites and stalactites,

688
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: glowing eyes. Absolutely excellent credit sequence.

689
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: I agree absolutely like everything. At this point, you're kind

690
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 2: of hooked because we've had several things come together here,

691
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: the typical sort of teens in peril, then like some

692
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: this weird character that's introduced, and the prop that he

693
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 2: has the suitcase with the gear in it, very effective,

694
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: Like whoever put this together for the film, it's you know,

695
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: clearly they didn't spend a lot on this, but it

696
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: doesn't look cheap. It doesn't look like thrown it's thrown

697
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: together random gear. It looks bare bones, but in a

698
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: way that is like believably possibly alien, and I really

699
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: liked it. And then yeah, we go into this cool

700
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: illustration slash animation opening credit sequence that is really one

701
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: of the best things in the film.

702
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally.

703
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 5: So.

704
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: Then sunglasses Man pulls up outside a hospital. He parks

705
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: his car directly in front of a NOE parking site,

706
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 3: and I think that that's a very Charles B. Griffith

707
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: kind of touch like things like that happen a lot

708
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 3: in his scripts, I think. And then he goes into

709
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: the hospital and the nurse there, who is Beverly Garland

710
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: nurse Nadine's story, she welcomes him and he introduces himself.

711
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: We find out he is calling himself Paul Johnson, and

712
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: she's like, are you here for a blood test? And

713
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 3: he's like, no test, transfusion And they argue for a bit.

714
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: He claims he has no fear, he does not fear needles,

715
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: he will not require a test and requires a blood

716
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: transfusion immediately, and she argues back She's like, you have

717
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: to have a test. We don't hand out blood like gasoline,

718
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 3: she says, we have to find out if you need

719
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: ethel or regular.

720
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: She handles this in stride though, you know, yes, I.

721
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 3: Mean he's this weird, menacing man in sunglasses that you

722
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: would expect her to be more rattled by him, But

723
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: she's not at all. She just seems to roll off her.

724
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: The weirdness wicks away. Yeah, And so he sits down.

725
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: She's like, sit down, read a magazine, and he does.

726
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: And then at some point there's a buzzing sound. I

727
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: think it's like buzzing in the back door of the

728
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: doctor's office. And we see that the buzzing sound clearly

729
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: hurts the alien's ears. A sunglasses man like leans over

730
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: and touches his head. So that's a little Chekhov's buzz there.

731
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: We learn that he does not tolerate loud or high

732
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 3: pitch sounds. So then he goes to talk to the doctor.

733
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: He explains to the doctor, I must have blood. I

734
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: am dying. I am type O. And he also to

735
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: the doctor says I do not want a blood test,

736
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 3: and at one point he runs for the equipment. I

737
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: was like, why is he going to try to like

738
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 3: give himself a rapid transfusion, like just overpowering the doctor.

739
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: But no, Instead, what he does is he cuts himself

740
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 3: and he shows the doctor that no blood is coming out,

741
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 3: and he's like, it will start bleeding eventually, but it'll

742
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: take a few minutes. And the doctor. The doctor is impressed.

743
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: He's like, whoa, yeah, something weird going on with you.

744
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: And I would say so, I don't know if there

745
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: are any medical conditions that cause you to not bleed

746
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: when you get cut, but that does sound bad. But

747
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: eventually I think the doctor sort of gets through to

748
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: the to Paul Johnson that like, look, I you know

749
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to do tests on you or I

750
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: can't give you what you're asking for. So he hypnotizes

751
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: the doctor using some kind of alien you know, science

752
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: fiction magic. He hypnotizes him and brainwashes him to follow

753
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: the instruction that you will not transmit to any other

754
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: being your knowledge of my tragedy. And this is one

755
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: of the cool dynamics in the movie. I really like

756
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: this point where the doctor is an ongoing character for

757
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: the rest of the film, who's providing, who's occasionally meeting

758
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: with and providing treatments for Paul Johnson, and mostly he

759
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: acts normal, but if he's in a conversation with anybody

760
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: else and the subject of Paul Johnson comes up, he

761
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: just like has to change the subject and he like

762
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: he can't talk about it.

763
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's played well like it doesn't come off

764
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: like like like I think he mentions at some point

765
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 2: having a headache, you know, and you get the sense

766
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: that maybe there's like a spike of a migraine whenever

767
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: he is about to speak of of of Pj's situation,

768
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: but then backs down from it, and it plays off

769
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: like rather naturally for something that is, you know, ultimately supernatural.

770
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: Right, yes, So then PJ gets his blood transfusion. He's

771
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: lying there convalescing and the nurse comes up to him,

772
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: played Beverly Garland comes up to his side, and he

773
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 3: immediately starts wheeling and dealing with her like he wants

774
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 3: her to come work for him, and she's like, doing

775
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: what And he says, preserving my health, seeing to it

776
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: that I do not expire, okay, And she replies saying,

777
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: mister Johnson, no one in this wide world can guarantee life.

778
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: And then he says, nor any other I fear. So

779
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: it's a little ominous hint that maybe there are other

780
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: worlds that he has access to that also cannot help him.

781
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: It's also the bit where he mentions like, but what

782
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: if I paid you two hundred dollars per week?

783
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, yeah, they haggle, yeah, but she knows. She

784
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: eventually says, I don't know. This sounds unethical. I wouldn't

785
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: do it. He's like, what if your boss told you

786
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: you had to? And she's like, well, then okay, I'd

787
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: do it. So then fortunately her boss, doctor Rochelle, is

788
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: now Pj's brainwashed blood thrall, So he comes in and

789
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 3: he's like, yes, you must go home and treat him

790
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: at his home. So she does, and we get a

791
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: demonstration of his like his block on talking about Pj's case,

792
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: because she asks the doctor for details and the doctor

793
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 3: tries to tell her, but he finds he can't say

794
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: anything for some reason, and then he changes the subject.

795
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: So then when Pj's trying to leave the blood clinic,

796
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: he goes out to his car and wouldn't you know it,

797
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: there's a cop out there riding him a tip. And

798
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 3: then by coincidence, the nurse also knows the cop. It's

799
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: Beverly Garland's boyfriend. I think his name is Harry. Again,

800
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: most forgettable character in the movie. He's kind of aggressive.

801
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: He seems suspicious of Paul Johnson. Paul Johnson says he

802
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: seems aggressive. Why And the cop follows Paul Johnson back

803
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: to his house, but like, secretly, I think he's just

804
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: scoping it out, like he doesn't go in or anything.

805
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: So then we see PJ get back home and we

806
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: meet his accomplice, his employee. I don't know what you

807
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: call this guy exactly, the unwitting Renfield Jeremy and oh

808
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: my god, this house inside. I was watching it with

809
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: Rachel and I was just like, is this decorated enough?

810
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: As she was saying it was fractally tacky. The wallpaper

811
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: was almost giving me vertigo. It had these amazingly intricate

812
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: spiraling patterns on it. I thought the stair banister looked

813
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: like it was a giant squid tentacle that's going to

814
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: wrap around you and just take your right to the beak.

815
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I guess this is like a

816
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 3: Tudor mansion. That's maybe the style you'd call it, but

817
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: it was intensely decorated on the interior.

818
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the impression that they just they filmed

819
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: it in somebody's really nice, slightly over decorated mansion, and

820
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: it stands.

821
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: Out, Yeah, busy, busy walls. I mean that if you're

822
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: going to go that far with a pattern, you might

823
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: as well just go full like have where's Waldo wallpaper?

824
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: But we see PJ has a fridge full of blood,

825
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: then I guess it could be pepsi. It's just beakers

826
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: of some dark liquid. The movies in black and white,

827
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: so it's hard to know, but the implication is clear.

828
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: He's been out there harvesting blood and he has been

829
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: a busy little beaver.

830
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

831
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: And uh, and I have to say, black and white

832
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: blood can have a really good look in a film,

833
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: and it looks good in this. You know, it's it's

834
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: like blood, but it's it's also like some sort of

835
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: weird you know, iCore, because it's just it could be

836
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: black for we know.

837
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then so, despite being warned not to, Jeremy,

838
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 3: the no good loser who works for PJ, he starts

839
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: nosing around in pj's stuff, getting into his briefcase and

840
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: then PJ shows up and freezes Jeremy in place. He

841
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: tells him, Jeremy, I didn't pay you to spy on me.

842
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: Do it again, and you shall be eliminated. You should

843
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 3: be eliminated. And Jeremy's just like a sorry boss. Yeah.

844
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: I love how PJ is using like psychic powers to

845
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: orchestrate his plans here on Earth. But he's also just

846
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: straight up and also threats of death, but also a

847
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: generous pay a package as well, Like he's paying Jeremy,

848
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: he's paying the nurse.

849
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, he pays well, and he hires he hires two

850
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: employees I can tell, one of which is completely incompetent. Yeah,

851
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: but anyway, Nurse Nadine shows up at the house and

852
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: Jeremy just immediately starts creeping on her. He's like, hey, hey, gorgeous,

853
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: and and then PJ shows Nurse Nadine to her room.

854
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 3: He's like, you will sleep in here. There's some awkwardness

855
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 3: in the scene about the fact that he locks her

856
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: bedroom door from the outside, and she comments on this.

857
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: She's like that's not normal, but he's like, that's how

858
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 3: we do it here, and she just rolls with it.

859
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: It's like whatever, and then finally I think we get

860
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: the scene that's like the big reveal where PJ goes

861
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 3: off by himself. He locks himself into a room and

862
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: he sits down with a radio, and it first still

863
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: looks like he's just going to listen to the radio,

864
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: like he's going to tune into the Colgate Hour and

865
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: groove out with roy Donk. But no, he is in

866
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: the et sense phoning home. This is his communication device,

867
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: and we find out a little bit of his backstory.

868
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: So he is, in truth, not an Earth human at all.

869
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: He is from the planet Devana, and he contacts his

870
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: superiors to report what's been going on and get orders

871
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: going forward. It becomes clear that he is on a

872
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 3: predatory mission on Earth, and so the aliens from Devana

873
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 3: refer to themselves as humans and refer to Earth humans

874
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: as subhumans, which is confusing in a lot of scenes.

875
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is really confusing. In fact, I don't

876
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: even think I really picked up on the Earth humans

877
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: equal sub humans thing, so I was a bit grossed

878
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: out later when Fong's character is referenced as a subhuman

879
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: by PJ. And I've noticed online that others have had

880
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: a similar experience. So yeah, I think I create some

881
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: confusion that.

882
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the most notable case of him saying it is

883
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: in the scene where he's referring to Harold Fong's character, which, yeah,

884
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: makes it sound like even more racist than it was.

885
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: But no, I think the conceit is that these aliens

886
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 3: are racist towards all Earth humans and view all of

887
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: them as not really quite human.

888
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: Right, So that was confusing, But there's more confusion to come.

889
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 3: Right, because then he receives his instructions and a bunch

890
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 3: of exposition from the alien projected in this communicator pod,

891
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: and I could not keep I was trying to take notes.

892
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: I could not keep track of all of it. There's

893
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: a six phase plan that involves like harvesting blood and

894
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: then testing the blood to see if it will do

895
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: whatever they need it to do, and then he needs

896
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: to at some point collect a live human specimen to

897
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 3: send it back to their planet for testing. And some

898
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: of the steps that are discussed in the six phase

899
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 3: plan seem to be repeating things that have already happened

900
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: in the movie or have already been discussed. So I

901
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: don't know. I lost track of this scene.

902
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't have a six phase plan in a

903
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: drive in movie. I mean, you can't even I don't

904
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: think you can even get away with a six phase

905
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: plan in like say modern political discourse. Yeah, like a

906
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: politician can't say, all right, we have a six phase

907
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: plan for recovery or something.

908
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: No.

909
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: So so when I was watching this, I was like,

910
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: all right, phase one, got you, phase two, and then

911
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: I just the rest just washed over me. And I

912
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 2: have no idea where it all went. Like it had.

913
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 2: One had to do with his survival as an organism

914
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: on planet, and then there was like the sending of

915
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: a specimen back through the teleportation slash communication device. But

916
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: I don't even know where we were with like five

917
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: and six. I couldn't. I couldn't tell you what five

918
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: and six were.

919
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, intensely confusing. Let's keep it to two. You know,

920
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: it was the two phase plan. It should have been

921
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: like two phase plan, okay, or maybe three. You can

922
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: go three. Step one collect blood from humans, step two,

923
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: send a live human specimen, step three take over Earth.

924
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: That would be comprehensible.

925
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, then we can follow it.

926
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: But one thing that we do learn in this scene

927
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: is that the aliens are themselves dying like they are

928
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: suffering from a horrible blood disease. And it's not just

929
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 3: not just Paul Johnson. All the aliens back home have

930
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: this horrible blood problem, and so they are frantically in

931
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: search for some kind of blood related cure to their

932
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: medical problems here on Earth.

933
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's kind of I think it's alluded to

934
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: later that they, like the home home planet may have

935
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 2: been devastated by atomic warfare. Like it's highly radiated environment,

936
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: and I think there are some lines from PJ that

937
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: also seem to hint at violence being one of the

938
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 2: key reasons for the downfall of their planet.

939
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: Yes, you're right about that. So their planet has been

940
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 3: through a nuclear war and so it's a highly irradiated

941
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 3: landscape and it's causing everybody's blood to be diseased. And

942
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: so they're wondering if they can get a cure from

943
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: Earth or if they can just use human Earth blood

944
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: in themselves and like transfuse it to their bodies. Anyway,

945
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: getting back to the human characters, the Earth human characters.

946
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: So Jeremy comes around and creeps on Nadine some more.

947
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: There's a very good Jeremy slap where she just like

948
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: reaches around the door of a dresser and smacks him

949
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: in the face. And then Nadine goes swimming in the

950
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: pool at the house. It's a very nice house, while

951
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: Jeremy cleans the pool with a net, and then we

952
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: get to the Dick Miller scene. Dick Miller appears as

953
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 3: a door to door vacuum salesman. He says at some

954
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: point this, as they say in the vernacular, is the

955
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 3: darling of the vacuum cleaner world.

956
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: And he really talks himself into this death. Like I

957
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: usually a character like this, you come on like, oh man,

958
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: this poor sap never had a chance. But really it's

959
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: like it's just great salesmanship that gets him killed exactly.

960
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: Yes. So PJ tries to send him away. He's like,

961
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: I have no need of a vacuum cleaner. Take away

962
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: this device from my door. But Dick Miller is extremely persistent.

963
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 3: He wants to demonstrate the vacuum cleaner on the cellar,

964
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: and so PJ when he hears that, you can see

965
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: it sort of like wash over him, like, oh, you

966
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: know what, humans are full of blood and this guy

967
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 3: is a human, or I guess he would be a subhuman.

968
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: This is an earth subhuman. So PJ takes him up

969
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 3: on it, takes him downstairs, hypnotizes him, harvests some blood,

970
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: and then just eases Dick Miller are into the furnace.

971
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: There's a scene later in the film where you see

972
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: the smoke billowing up from the from the furnace here

973
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: at this mansion, the chimney all yeah, all while the

974
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: nurses out there by the pool sunbathing. Yes, And it's

975
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: like clear like this has got to be suspicious for everybody,

976
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: Like it's clearly like, you know, the middle of the summer,

977
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: there's warm enough outside to get to set by the

978
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: pool in your swimsuit, and here this this house is

979
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: just constantly burning something.

980
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's see. I think that scene also has very

981
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,959
Speaker 3: much the Charles Griffith's sense of humor in it. It's

982
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 3: a lot of dry, ironic juxtapositions that are actually pretty funny.

983
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 3: So then after this the no good Jeremy takes PJ

984
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: on a ride. I think they're going to the library.

985
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: I can't remember why, but so they stop to ogle

986
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: at a trio of cartoon hobos, and PJ asks like,

987
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 3: who are those gentlemen? And Jeremy says, well, they're not gentlemen,

988
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: they're bums, and then has all these questions about bums

989
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: and what earth bums are, and eventually he says that

990
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: Jeremy should invite them to the house for dinner, and

991
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 3: Jeremy tries to protest, but he's like, do not question me,

992
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 3: bring them to the house. Meanwhile, back at home, nursing

993
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: Adine almost discovers Dick Miller's body burning in the basement,

994
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: but she is summoned above by a car horn and

995
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: it's her cop boyfriend Harry, And so he's arriving at

996
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 3: the house. I can't remember why he's there. He's maybe

997
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: just to visit her or something, but he immediately knows

998
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: Jeremy when he meets him. He knows him from crime

999
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: because Jeremy is a bad boy and has done lots

1000
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 3: of bad things. And then Harry the cop, hangs out

1001
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: with nurse and Adine while doctor Rochelle sits down to

1002
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: have a visit with PJ. And Doctor Rochelle is like,

1003
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: I can't understand your blood. It's impossible. What's happening to it?

1004
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: They explain that basically the problem is that over time

1005
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: Pj's blood evaporates from his veins, and so he asked

1006
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 3: to get his blood replenished. And he says, and PJ says,

1007
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: if a cure is not soon forthcoming, the blood of

1008
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: my body will turn to dust. Now, while all this

1009
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 3: is going on, of course, Jeremy's scrounging around. He's always

1010
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: up to no good. I got to ask, did you

1011
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 3: have any idea? What is that outfit he's wearing. Is

1012
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: Jeremy dressed in a bell hop suit?

1013
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, he is wearing a funny costume. He's either

1014
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: wearing that costume or he's walking around wearing like a

1015
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: like a like a white undershirt with a pistol strapped

1016
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: to his chest. Yeah, so he's constantly wearing something distracting.

1017
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: Well, anyway, Nadine soon thereafter accuses Jeremy of stealing her

1018
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 3: bathing cap because she can't find it, and hey, Jeremy,

1019
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 3: that seems like something he would do, he would steal

1020
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: a bathing cap. But then unfortunately PJ finds it in

1021
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: the base on the shelf next to the furnace. She

1022
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: left it down there while she was snooping around. So

1023
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: now you gotta worry that Beverly Garland is in trouble

1024
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 3: because PJ suspects her of suspecting him. Then meanwhile, Jeremy

1025
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: brings the three cartoon hobos back for dinner. They are

1026
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: like each a verse from the Big Rock Candy Mountain.

1027
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 3: They are just perfect movie derelicts. And PJ gets them

1028
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: drunk and they start singing, and then he takes off

1029
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 3: his sunglasses and they get hypnotized and collapse. PJ makes

1030
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: another report to his home world. He says, you know, look,

1031
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 3: I've got a trunk full of earth blood samples. Let

1032
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 3: me send them back. So he teleports that back to

1033
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: the home world for I guess investigation. He says, pretty

1034
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: soon he'll be able to send a live human captive,

1035
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: and then he says he does not know if he

1036
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: himself will live or die. And I think this comes

1037
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 3: back to one of those early phases of the six

1038
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: Phase Plan. One of them had something to do with

1039
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: whether or not he would live or die. I don't

1040
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: understand why that it's a phase, but he I guess

1041
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: has to report on it.

1042
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more one of the like the bullet points,

1043
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: really but yeah, it's it's it's presented as being part

1044
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: of the six phase Plan.

1045
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 3: Then we cut to the police station. I guess this

1046
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: is to give us some context from the broader world,

1047
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: because mostly so far it's just been about these few

1048
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: characters we've been talking about. Where the cops are there

1049
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 3: talking about murder victims with neck punctures and they've just

1050
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: found the thirteenth one of these, and one of the

1051
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: cops says to the other, this killer is a fiend

1052
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 3: of the most diabolical kind, interested in only one thing blood.

1053
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 3: What could he do with it? He's no idiot. He

1054
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: has an ugly device that burns through the victim's eyes,

1055
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: burns the brain right in the skull. Then he takes

1056
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: the blood. And I'm just wondering, how do the cops

1057
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: know this? What there's there are not any witnesses. How

1058
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 3: would they know about the device burning through the victim's

1059
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 3: eyes to the brain.

1060
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's just forensics, right. They just

1061
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 2: seems like the because they well, maybe they found the girl, right,

1062
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: and presumably there are other victims and they're just finding

1063
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: them with boiled brains and burn eyeballs and not a

1064
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: drop of blood in them.

1065
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: Now, maybe that is it. You know, it's CSI. Wherever

1066
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: this is CSI, Hollywood, nineteen fifties, and then oh and

1067
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 3: what they also let slip another funny thing, which is

1068
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: that the vacuum cleaner company is looking for a missing salesman.

1069
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: Was like, is it the vacuum cleaner company that would

1070
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: be looking Then there's a scene where we get some

1071
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 3: amazing medical technobabble where about how cancer is cured by

1072
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: uranium and perhaps this is because the cancer is a

1073
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: negative energy that attracts the radioactivity. This goes on for

1074
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: a while and is very strange. But this scene did

1075
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: make me think about something from that CBC Ideas episode

1076
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: that you talked about, where one of the things that's

1077
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 3: discussed in that episode is a common feature of really

1078
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: enjoyable bad movies or cult movies is that they are

1079
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: often ambitious in a way that falls ridiculously short, like

1080
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 3: they they're reaching out to sort of tell this global

1081
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: story or this hugely important, revelatory kind of story, but

1082
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 3: in fact it usually are like very cheap, kind of

1083
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: failed in competent productions. And this scene has that energy

1084
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 3: for me because there's an anecdote of Charles B. Griffith

1085
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: talking about writing the script, and he tells the story

1086
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 3: of how I think his partner at the time was

1087
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: a medical professional of some kind, maybe she was a

1088
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 3: nurse or a doctor, and that they were like talking

1089
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: through the scene in the script, and he says, I

1090
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: remember in that script we came up with a cure

1091
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: for cancer, which is like, I think that is kind

1092
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: of how they must have been thinking about it, even

1093
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: I mean, at least at an ironic level.

1094
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: That is interesting that he had in it that he

1095
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: was his partner was perhaps a medical professional. Because those

1096
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: scenes where we're you know, where she's interacting with Pete

1097
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: weirdos like that felt believable. It's sort of like, oh, yeah,

1098
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: all right, yeah, you're here for blood transfusion, have a seat,

1099
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: read a magazine like that. That all felt rather real

1100
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: in a film that is ultimately filled with a lot

1101
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: of unreal stuff.

1102
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought so too. So the next scene is

1103
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 3: one where PJ desperately needs a live Earth human to

1104
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: send back as a specimen to his home world. So

1105
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 3: he goes out to find someone and he runs into

1106
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 3: a Chinese American man on the sidewalk. This is the

1107
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 3: guy played by Harold Fong, and this is the scene

1108
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: where we find out he can hypnotize people and apparently

1109
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 3: any language because he hypnotizes him telepathically, but in the

1110
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: audio we hear him speaking Chinese to him. I would

1111
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: suspect that the Chinese pronunciation, if it's even real words,

1112
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 3: is not very good here. But that's what's trying to

1113
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: be communicated, I think. And then PJ hypnotizes him and

1114
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: takes him back to his house to send him off

1115
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: through the teleporter to the alien world.

1116
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: At phase five. At this point, I'm not sure, I.

1117
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: Don't know how many phases. Yeah, So so next things

1118
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: start to go off the rails a little bit because

1119
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: then PJ meets a woman who is wearing sunglasses just

1120
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: like his, and she is also we find out from Divanna.

1121
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 3: They start talking telepathically, like at a newsstand, and she

1122
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: gives this whole tale about how she escaped to Earth

1123
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: after some kind of like horrible violence is going on

1124
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: in the home world. It seems like things are getting

1125
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: really bad back there.

1126
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

1127
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 3: And then we also find out through some exposition here

1128
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 3: that she well, she's worried she'll be punished, but he says,

1129
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 3: you will not be punished for using the dimension warp.

1130
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: But we find out that the Earth humans sent by

1131
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: Paul Johnson to Divanna and the teleporter was unfortunately crushed

1132
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: upon emerging on the other side, and they need another

1133
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: live specimen. And also she says, I am dying just

1134
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: like you, and I need a blood transfusion immediately, and

1135
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: so so all kinds of pri problems are coming up.

1136
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 3: It seems like the alien conspiracy to take over Earth

1137
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: is not going so well.

1138
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: In a way, it's a really interesting plot wrinkle to

1139
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: pop up, like it would probably work better in like

1140
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: a mini series form or something where suddenly, Okay, the

1141
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: mission's not going so well and another alien has shown

1142
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: up to check in on you and see what's wrong

1143
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: with the project.

1144
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I like this actually, because one of the

1145
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 3: things about alien invasion movies is that the aliens are

1146
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: almost always portrayed as totally organized, hyper competent. You know,

1147
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: they are just on the ball in their attempts to

1148
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: take over Earth. I like the idea of an alien

1149
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 3: invasion or destruction conspiracy that is disorganized, failing and encountering

1150
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 3: lots of problems on its own, and happening from a

1151
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: place of desperation.

1152
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. It reminds me a lot, actually, And I would

1153
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: not be shocked at all if this film influenced it.

1154
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: It reminds me of the Rocky Hoar Picture Show, which

1155
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: we have the alien Transylvanians led by Frankenfurter, and certainly

1156
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: their whole project has gone really far off the rails,

1157
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: and you ultimately have a rebellion within the ranks of

1158
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: the Transylvanians to set things right, to cancel this project

1159
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: that's just completely out of control.

1160
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. That's a very good point of comparison, I think,

1161
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 3: and also very much part of the same aesthetic universe.

1162
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 3: I mean, because Charles by Griffith wrote Rocky, not Rocky.

1163
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: I wrote a Little Shop of Horrors, and I feel

1164
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 3: like that gets turned into a musical and then there's

1165
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 3: a lot of overlap with Rocky Horror there. I don't know,

1166
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: I see it. Yeah, But anyway, so PJ and the

1167
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: Devana woman go to Rochelle's office, the blood clinic. They

1168
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: break in and he gives her a blood transfusion, but

1169
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 3: unfortunately he does not notice that the jar he's transfusing

1170
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 3: her from is just clearly labeled canine blood and like

1171
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 3: big block letters. I don't know, maybe he can't read

1172
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 3: earth writing. I'm not sure.

1173
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 2: To be clear, we find out later he accidentally gives

1174
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: her a transfusion of rabid dog blood.

1175
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: Yes. Another feels very Charles B. Griffith lot device. Yes.

1176
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 3: So meanwhile, the humans are doctor Rochelle and Beverly Garland

1177
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 3: and what's his name the copper at a restaurant discussing

1178
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 3: like a supplement, and we get more hypnotism problems because,

1179
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 3: like doctor Rochelle, as soon as he realizes they're talking

1180
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: about Paul Johnson, he just clams up and doesn't want

1181
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: to talk about anything except the veal cutlets. And so

1182
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 3: PJ at this point wants a second live specimen to

1183
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: beam back to Devana. He tries to hypnotize in a

1184
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 3: guy in a car just out in the middle of

1185
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 3: the street, but another car honks its horn and the

1186
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 3: loud sound seems to injure him and disrupt or impair

1187
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: his hypnotizing ability. So this ties back to the thing

1188
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 3: earlier on where the buzzer on the door the loud

1189
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: sound mess up his head and uh. And back home,

1190
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 3: Nadine and Jeremy really start to suspect something is off.

1191
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

1192
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: They find pj's apparatus for beaming things home. Jeremy finds

1193
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 3: Dick Miller's skull in the furnace. Uh, we find out somehow,

1194
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 3: I mean, things are just moving very fast. Now we

1195
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: find out somehow that the Dvana woman died, and she

1196
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: died of rabies because PJ transfused her with rabid dog blood.

1197
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: I don't know why the rabbid K nine blood was there,

1198
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: but it was.

1199
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: You wouldn't left its setting there next to the healthy

1200
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: oh negative human blood. Yeah, this is just this terrible storage.

1201
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 3: It's like the Simpsons gag where the where the beaker

1202
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 3: of acid is right next to the drinks.

1203
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like in the classic Frankenstein where you have

1204
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: what the the healthy brain and the the criminal brain

1205
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah, they're just story next to each other

1206
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 2: on the desk. They've just been left out in case

1207
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: anyone wants to check them out after class.

1208
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. Really funny plot development.

1209
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 3: And then so then PJ knows he's discovered. He knows

1210
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: Nadine and Jeremy are on to him, so he goes

1211
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 3: after them. I think he kills Jeremy by burning his brain,

1212
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: and then he comes after Nadine. But Nurse Nadine discovers

1213
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 3: his one major weakness, which is screaming in his ear,

1214
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: So she screams and then he's like ah and gets

1215
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 3: disoriented and she can get away. And I gotta say,

1216
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 3: like the first moments of this chase in the house

1217
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: where he's got the pure white eyes and he's coming

1218
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: up the stairs after her and all that, I feel

1219
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 3: like that's a really good suspenseful chase scene.

1220
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And ultimately the final chase sequence of the picture,

1221
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: I felt like the steak they created a feeling of

1222
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 2: actual stakes because basically she has been hypnotized to go

1223
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 2: back to the house, climb into the teleporter, and send

1224
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: herself as a specimen back to the home world. Yeah,

1225
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: and meanwhile he is racing back to the house as well.

1226
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 2: PJ is and the is chasing after him. So we

1227
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: have a highway chase and and and so like what's

1228
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: gonna what's gonna happen here? And you know, is he

1229
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: gonna be able, Is the cop gonna be able to

1230
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: stop PJ before he gets back? Is anybody gonna be

1231
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: able to stop her before she like teleflushes herself back

1232
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 2: to the home world.

1233
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 3: There, so there's another thing that happens during all this.

1234
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 3: I agree totally with everything you're saying like it's a

1235
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: pretty effective ending sequence. But then Paul Johnson does another

1236
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: thing that comes out of nowhere. There's no hint earlier

1237
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: in the movie that this is gonna happen, but he

1238
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: gets out of I think it's out of his alien briefcase,

1239
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 3: this like device that he removes some kind of organic

1240
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: looking material from a capsule, and then it morphs into

1241
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 3: this flying alien umbrella squid that zooms out through the

1242
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 3: air making squeaky ferret sounds and is like an assassin

1243
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 3: alien monster, and it flies into doctor Rochelle's off and

1244
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: it closes like a like a folding umbrella, closes over

1245
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 3: his head and clearly just crushes his skull, like it

1246
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 3: closes over his head and he falls over and then

1247
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: you just see blood leaking out from beneath it. It's

1248
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: a gruesome scene.

1249
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: It is a yeah, it's at first it seems like

1250
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: a weird kind of wonky monster, but it's but really no,

1251
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: I know, I take that back. You know, on paper,

1252
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: it sounds wonky, and maybe if you see a still

1253
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: of it you might think it's wonky, but it's very

1254
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 2: effective in the film, like it comes off suitably like

1255
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: alien and graphic and weird even today. Yeah, I'll talk

1256
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: a little bit more about about this strange creature in

1257
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: a bit.

1258
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: Well, we should go we should go to that in

1259
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 3: just a minute. But yeah, I found that a really

1260
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 3: effective part of the movie. Even though the prop might

1261
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: look a little funny at first, it works well, I

1262
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 3: think because it it's so surprising, like there's no hint

1263
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: earlier on that this is gonna happen. It just suddenly like, oh,

1264
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 3: I didn't know he could do that.

1265
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so casual, it's like, oh, yeah, suddenly, mind

1266
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: rending bioharr in your nineteen fifty seven drive in film.

1267
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 3: And so then you of course had this final chase

1268
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 3: sequence that we talked about, and the cop is able

1269
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 3: to I think, defeat PJ by like honking the horn

1270
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 3: at him and it hurts his ears and makes him

1271
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 3: crash his car, and that's the end. And I think

1272
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 3: it's a bummer that the cop gets to defeat the

1273
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 3: alien in the end because he is like such a

1274
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 3: nothing character in this movie. I would have preferred one

1275
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 3: of the other characters to dispatch the alien, but whatever.

1276
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 3: And then finally there's a funeral scene for him where

1277
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 3: his tombstone just says, here lies a man who was

1278
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 3: not of this earth.

1279
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it raises the question who paid for this will

1280
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 2: I don't know? Of course. The other thing she is saved,

1281
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: the nurse is saved because when PJ dies it breaks

1282
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: the hypnotism and so she does not flush herself down

1283
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: the teleporter.

1284
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 3: Right, yes, exactly so. But I want to come back

1285
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 3: to that instant alien monster assassin kit that he's got

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Speaker 3: in his brief. So I was reading a review on

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Speaker 3: horrornews dot net by a writer named Nigel Honeybone. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if that's a real name or a pseudonym,

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Speaker 3: but it had a lot of interesting just anecdotes about

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Speaker 3: the production of the film in it, and I wanted

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Speaker 3: to read one part that was about this plot device

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Speaker 3: and then the effect. So to read from this review

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Speaker 3: here quote according to Griffith, and this would be Charles B. Griffith,

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Speaker 3: his original screenplay contained many other ideas that were not

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Speaker 3: filmed due to time or budget restraints.

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Speaker 5: Quote.

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Speaker 3: It had other things that didn't get shot. You know,

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Speaker 3: during the war, it was illegal to sell yellow margarine

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Speaker 3: because of the butter interests, so they'd sell white margarine

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Speaker 3: in a plastic bag with a yellow food capsule inside.

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Speaker 3: I had something like that in Not of This Earth,

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Speaker 3: where the invader broke a capsule mixed it in a

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Speaker 3: bathtub full of water that turned into a big dog.

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Speaker 3: I wanted a Great Dane to be dressed in a

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Speaker 3: monster suit with a crocodilian mouth on it and everything.

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Speaker 3: And that's the end of the quote. But then it

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Speaker 3: goes on to say, instead, low budget monster maker Paul

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Speaker 3: Blisdell designed a jellyfish like thing that flew in the air.

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Speaker 3: In one of the most gruesome moments in fifties films,

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Speaker 3: Blisdell's creature envelops the head of doctor Rochelle, and as

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Speaker 3: he struggles to remove it, a trail of blood oozes

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Speaker 3: from his head, which is completely covered by the creature,

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Speaker 3: and collects in a pool on the desk in front

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Speaker 3: of him. So wow, I mean, that's a last minute

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Speaker 3: change that I think works really well, so.

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Speaker 2: Much better than this idea of the like the dog

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Speaker 2: in a monster costume, which I've seen plenty of films

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Speaker 2: that have a dog in a monster costume and it

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Speaker 2: never really works.

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Speaker 3: Killer shrews.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also, you know, you save some poor Hollywood

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Speaker 2: area dog like a terrible day of being immersed in

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Speaker 2: a bathtub with blue dye or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally. But this effects creator, by the way,

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Speaker 3: I think Paul Blisdell b l Ai s d e lll.

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Speaker 3: He say his name maybe Blaisdell or Blaisdel. He was

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Speaker 3: responsible for creating a lot of Corman props at this time,

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Speaker 3: I think because he would work very fast, and I

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Speaker 3: think speed is the name of the game with a

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Speaker 3: lot of the people involved in all these pictures, and

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Speaker 3: so he would work fast and create these props that

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Speaker 3: some of which I think later went on to receive

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Speaker 3: a lot of fame with like toy reproductions from some

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Speaker 3: of his other movies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he worked in what Teenagers from Outer Space,

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Speaker 2: Invasion of the Saucermen, it Conquered the World, the Beast

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Speaker 2: with a Million Eyes. Yeah, he has some good credits there. Now,

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Speaker 2: another thing about this this strange alien flying head crushing

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01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 2: weapon thing, it feels very original, for sure. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to take any of its originality away from it.

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Speaker 2: But of course it also feels a little familiar when

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Speaker 2: we as modern film viewers see it, because it's essentially

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01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: an organic version of the so called flying gearine weapon

1344
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 2: made famous in a string of Hong Kong action films

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Speaker 2: from the nineteen seventies and beyond.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like Master of the Flying Guillotine, which has notable

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Speaker 3: in many ways. We could cover that on the show sometime. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would say that movie would be notable if only

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01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 3: for its soundtrack.

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01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the at least the American release off it

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01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: has a killer soundtrack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you're not familiar with the flying guillotine weapon

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01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: in those films, it is. It's very weird. It's very bizarre.

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Speaker 2: It's like this, it's kind of like a conical hat

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01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: but also kind of like a pot also kind of

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01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 2: like a crab pot, you know, or a crab basket

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01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: kind of a thing, and it is thrown like a frisbee,

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Speaker 2: and then it will land over the victim's head and

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01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 2: then it like has it closes and then decapitates the

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Speaker 2: victim and then is retrieved by a wire And also

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Speaker 2: sometimes I think it's triggered by a wire as well,

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Speaker 2: and it like brings the decapitated head then back to

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Speaker 2: the person who wields the weapon. Right, it's I know,

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: which that sounds like a lot, but trust me, it's

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01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 2: really gnarly.

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Speaker 3: It's the so it's the villain's weapon and the Master

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Speaker 3: of the Flying Guillotine movies, and it is. It's quite

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Speaker 3: like a villainous thing. It's not the kind of weapon

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Speaker 3: that a hero would usually wield.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'll have to talk about it in

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Speaker 2: greater detail in another episode. But I think when it

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01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 2: was originally introduced, or maybe an origin story was introduced

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01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: at one point, and it was like the hero that

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 2: creates it, or at least you get some sort of

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 2: hero story about how such an evil sounding weapon is developed.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry if I'm not remembering right. So, but the

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01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 3: hero of the movie Master of the Flying Guillotine is

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Speaker 3: the one armed boxer, isn't he?

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01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 2: Yes? But there well, there are multiple films here. We'll

1381
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 2: love to come back and discuss these. But essentially, the

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01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: weapon in question is the Zoo d z or the

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01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: the blood dripper, and it's known in English as the

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01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: flying guillotine, which basically describes what it does. And it

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01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 2: is indeed a weapon of Chinese folklore, said to be

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: so deadly that no one lived to pass on the

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01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: details of what it looked like or how it operated.

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01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: So Basically, as far as I understand it, we just

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01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 2: have these films for the main origin story of the

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01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: main creation of what this thing looks like and how

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Speaker 2: it functions. In folklore, it said to have originated under

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Speaker 2: the rule of Yongzegd Emperor during the Qing dynasty late

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01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: seventeenth or the eighteenth century. And yeah, and then we

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01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 2: get this signature look for the weapon in the nineteen

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: seventy five film The Flying Guillotine, and then it shows

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01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: up in other films as well. It's just really really nuts.

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01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: It looks like something that belongs in a hell Raiser movie.

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01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: So I can only assume with this film we're looking

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01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: at cases of parallel of evolution here. So I imagine

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01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 2: it's somewhat possible that there might be actual connective tissues

1401
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: between the Flying Guillotine films and Not of This Earth,

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01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: But I don't know. It seems unlikely. But now I

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01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 2: want to see a battle between PJ and his weird

1404
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 2: bio head Crusher of Frisbee creature and the Master of

1405
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 2: the Flying Guillotine. I think that would be a great matchup.

1406
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,560
Speaker 3: Well, they could have a tournament like in Master of

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 3: the Flying Guillotine, where they all fight it out.

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then and then we could bring in bring

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01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 2: in the flesh Frisbee guy from Without Warning. Yes, he

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01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: could be in this fighting game as well.

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01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 3: Bring in the crab monsters from Attack of the Crab Monsters,

1412
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 3: bring in the art Choke from It Conquered the World.

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01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. By the way. Back back to

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01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: this film though, it has a wonderful disclosing sequence with

1415
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: that tombstone where they're standing over that tombstone talking about

1416
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 2: it and there's a figure approaching in the background. We

1417
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: have our hero and heroine the tombstone, and then in

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01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 2: the background a dark figure is approaching the camera and

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01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: we can't quite make them out at first, and it's

1420
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: this kind of creepy scene like who is that? What

1421
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: is what are they doing? And then as they get

1422
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,799
Speaker 2: closer and as our hero and heroin venture off the screen,

1423
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: we see that it is another alien, another individual in

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01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 2: the suit and the hat and the dark sunglasses covering

1425
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: up what we can only imagine are those pupil less

1426
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 2: boiled egg eyeball that will just burn through our brain.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, you gotta have that kind of ending.

1428
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 3: Back then a stinger that says you know, it's not

1429
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 3: really over.

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 3: I think Attack of the Crab Monsters could have been

1432
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 3: improved with a similar stinger. I mean, they just killed

1433
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 3: the thing and then it's over, you know. Oh okay,

1434
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 3: Now they should have ended it with like a tombstone

1435
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 3: for the giant crab and then there's another crab coming

1436
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 3: out of the woods in the distance.

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01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so.

1438
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 3: All right, I feel like we got to wrap it

1439
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: up there. This has been another long one.

1440
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're gonna go and close the book

1441
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: on this film. But hey, if you want to check

1442
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: out Not of This Earth the original mind you you

1443
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: can pick this up. You can rent it or buy

1444
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: it digitally pretty much anywhere you get digital movies these days,

1445
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: and you can also pick it up in DVD packs

1446
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 2: like I don't know if you can buy it individually.

1447
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: It's one of those films, but I saw at least

1448
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 2: a couple of different like Corman packs that you could

1449
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: purchase where it's one of several films, And in fact,

1450
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 2: I watched it on a triple Corman pack that you

1451
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 2: have that you lent me.

1452
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 3: Right along with Attack of the Crab Monsters and War

1453
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 3: of the Satellites, which I think was a fifty eight

1454
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 3: Corman movie.

1455
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 2: All right, well, yeah, we're going to go and close

1456
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: it out, but we'd love to hear from everybody. What

1457
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: do you think of this film? Did you see it?

1458
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Corman films in general? We'd

1459
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: love to have your feedback. And if there any particular

1460
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 2: Corman films you'd like us to cover in the future,

1461
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: let us know.

1462
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 3: Oh, i'd say more than that. What are your favorite

1463
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 3: nineteen fifties drive in sci fi horror movies, especially if

1464
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 3: they're sub seventy minutes. That's the real juicy part.

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01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as of this recording, I don't think we've

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01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: recorded a Weird House Cinema episode from the nineteen sixties either, right.

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01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Still in the early days of

1468
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 3: the series.

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we want to make sure we're covering all decades,

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01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: certainly all the decades of the twentieth century, and then

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01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: we'll get me you know, we'll get into the twenty

1472
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 2: first century a little bit as well. I mean, it's

1473
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 2: not like they're no weird films for the twenty first century.

1474
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 3: What about the nineteenth century? I mean, God, we got

1475
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 3: to cover some weird Cinema by the Loomi Air Brothers,

1476
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 3: maybe by Alice ki Blache.

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01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, maybe maybe there are some weird things

1478
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 2: we've discussed in our Invention series from that period, so

1479
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 2: it's not impossible, all right. If you want to check

1480
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 2: out other episodes of Weird House Cinema, you'll find this

1481
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 2: show in the Stuff to Blow your Mind feed every Friday. Again,

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01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: most episodes of Stuff to Blow Your Mind are science

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01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 2: and culture, but the Weird House Cinema episodes on Fridays,

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01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: those are about weird films, and we'll maybe discuss a

1485
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 2: little science and culture in there as well. And where

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Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.