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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House to works dot Com. Hey, and welcome the podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Molly and I'm Kristen. Kristen. Over the course

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Speaker 1: of doing this podcast, we've learned so much about you.

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Speaker 1: You really do share your life with with our listeners

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Speaker 1: too much. We know you were home schooled. We know

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Speaker 1: that your nickname is the thrifty nickel to some. We

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Speaker 1: know you want to abolish marriage. Not true, It's not true.

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Speaker 1: You said it. It's on the public record now joking.

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Speaker 1: Here's a new thing we're gonna reveal today, a new

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Speaker 1: insight into Kristen goodness. Kristen, tell us what is on

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Speaker 1: your left wrist? Well, Molly, um, I'm looking at it

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Speaker 1: right now, and on my left wrist, the inside of it,

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Speaker 1: there is a small tattoo of an anchor. I have

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Speaker 1: an anchor. And I was telling Christ before we came

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Speaker 1: in here that the first time I noticed it, I

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Speaker 1: was sort of like, has she always had that or

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Speaker 1: did she just get it? Is it permanent? Is it

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Speaker 1: just like a picture of an anchor? She drew on herself.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of misconceptions about

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Speaker 1: this tattoo, Christ and I just want you to clear

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Speaker 1: them all up right now. Well, I think what you're

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Speaker 1: referring to, Molly is a tendency some men in this

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Speaker 1: town have of thinking it's cute to ask me if

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Speaker 1: I have a sailor fetish because you have the anchor,

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Speaker 1: because I have an anchor, to which I reply no

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Speaker 1: and then promptly turned around and walk away. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if someone asked you if you have a sailor fetish,

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Speaker 1: that that's as far as the conversation'll be going. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: cut him off out, there's the listeners. Yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: ever meet me, don't ask me about my tattoo. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know people people notice that. They're usually wondering why

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Speaker 1: I haven't an anchor on my wrist um. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely been the topic of conversation sometimes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty small, Like you said, you didn't notice it

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Speaker 1: first off. I've had friends who haven't noticed it for

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Speaker 1: a while, and I kind of liked it that way.

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Speaker 1: Even though it's in invisible space, like it's easy to

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Speaker 1: cover up and it's not just out there. So did

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Speaker 1: you get a small tattoo because you know, you didn't

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Speaker 1: want it to be just out there and have people

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Speaker 1: looking at it. I mean, you probably got people looking

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Speaker 1: at and asking were questions about it, but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a conscious choice to keep it small versus keeping it

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Speaker 1: you know, why don't you get like a sleeve of anchors,

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Speaker 1: I sleep, I mean an entire arm tattooed of anchers. Well, uh,

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Speaker 1: because then I don't think I could explain away a

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Speaker 1: lack of a sailor fetish um. But now I think

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Speaker 1: my rationale behind getting it right here was I figured

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to see it every day

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Speaker 1: if I wanted to, and not have to, you know,

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Speaker 1: crane my neck to see this tattoo. But yes, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to keep it small enough so that it wasn't

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Speaker 1: always in my line of sight. Gotcha, Well, the reason

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Speaker 1: I'm asking is, like that Christmas Day, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about what people think when they see a tattoo

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Speaker 1: on a woman. Yes, and even more fascinatingly, what tattoos

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Speaker 1: have to do with feminism, Because, as it turns out,

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Speaker 1: quite a bit. And so now you know, as we

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Speaker 1: feminist you know, ideas you might have been playing with

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Speaker 1: if you were transgressing gender boundaries by getting a tattoo,

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Speaker 1: all that good feminist lingo. How much of it did

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Speaker 1: you play into your decision to get a tattoo. These

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Speaker 1: are all things we're gonna explore either during the podcast

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Speaker 1: or later over drinks. All right, well, Molly, I think

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Speaker 1: that my anchor tattoo actually provides the perfect segue into

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Speaker 1: our historical journey UH with the art of tattoos, because

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Speaker 1: it all starts on the high seas, does it not?

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Speaker 1: It really does. It's as if you knew one day

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Speaker 1: you'd be podcasting about tattoos and you need a segway. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people trace the rise of tattoos

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Speaker 1: Cook went to Polynesia and brought back the polony as

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Speaker 1: Research Center, of women forty have at least one tattoo.

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Speaker 1: So we've gone from it being this kind of crazy

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Speaker 1: from my personal experience, having this very small, insignificant tattoo,

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Speaker 1: think that what's interesting is to me, your tattoo is

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Speaker 1: in a very sort of you know, neutral place. But

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Speaker 1: for example, you had gotten the ever so popularly named

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