1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warre. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: Ready to be by the wizard of Weird. This is 11 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: Strange Thing with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua P. 12 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 4: Warren. 13 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: At each week on this show, I'll be bringing you 14 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments 15 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: you can do at home, and a lot more. On 16 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: this edition of the show, Tales from the Hearse author 17 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: David Alan Voyles. This is a particularly special podcast, and 18 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: that is because the man you are about to hear 19 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: me interview was my English teacher when I was a 20 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: sophomore at Clyde A. Irwin High School in Asheville, North Carolina. 21 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Now Here is why this is especially weird. Mister Voyles 22 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: was one of those teachers that everybody loved. He always 23 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: had a smile and you could tell that he sincerely 24 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed his job. 25 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: And when I was his. 26 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: Student, he was always truly supportive of me and my writing, 27 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: and he would invite me to read my macabre poems 28 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: and short stories in front of the class. He was 29 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: just a really warm person who actually cared about his students. Regardless, 30 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm not the kind of guy who remains friends with 31 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: his old teachers. Frankly, I did not enjoy going to school, 32 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: as you can imagine. I don't like being forced to 33 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: live like normal people on a daylight schedule. But you see, 34 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: over the years, as I got older, I would hear 35 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: that mister Voyles was becoming stranger and stranger. As he 36 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: was nearing retirement, he started writing and then publishing creepy 37 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: stories himself. And then next thing you know, I heard 38 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: he'd lost his mind and bought a hearse and was 39 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: driving people all over Ashville and scaring the Bejesus out 40 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: of him for fun. It seems that once he retired, 41 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: he decided to finally reveal his true identity. He's the 42 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: only teacher I know of who has done this, and 43 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: I thought, what are the chances that I just so 44 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: happened to be a student of this fella. Well, of course, 45 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Lauren and I had to take his hearse ride. And 46 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm joking here. He didn't actually lose his mind. He 47 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: just decided to start having fun with his lifelong love 48 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: of spooky things. He started throwing one of the most 49 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: elaborate Halloween parties in the entire area each year. I 50 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: mean the kind of thing where you know, he he 51 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: must spend months preparing every year, you know, turning his 52 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: house and wooded property way up in the mountains into 53 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: i don't know, like a devilish carnival or a haunted house. 54 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: You know, various themes. Amazing job, and people come from 55 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: far and wide have a great time. So this guy, 56 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: he plays in a hearse. He turns his house into 57 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: an attraction at Halloween. And he has written numerous books, 58 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: including one of my favorites called Tales from the Hearse. 59 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: But he has a new novel about a young Edgar 60 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: Allan Poe. It's called Edgar, and he's going to tell 61 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: you about that and more. He's got some strange stories 62 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: you're about to hear. But before I play this interview, 63 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: I want you to know that his house was seriously 64 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: damaged recently by Hurricane Helene, and he is currently displaced 65 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: and maybe for a long time. So in our conversation 66 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: on his cell phone, you will occasionally hear a little buffering, 67 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: but not too much, so please understand and forgive that. 68 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: As you know, I don't usually do interviews on this show, 69 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: but a conversation with him on this show is long overdue. 70 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: So here we go. Let's get the scoop on this 71 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: mysterious man. David alan Voyles, Welcome to the show. 72 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 5: Well, it is my pleasure to be here. I am 73 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: thrilled to be able to talk with you. 74 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Isn't it funny to think that I am probably a 75 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: good ten years older than you were when you were 76 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: my English teacher. 77 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 5: That is that is a mind glory, it really is. 78 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 4: That is great. 79 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: You know, you were one of the few teachers that 80 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: everybody always loved, including me, and it's synchronistic that a 81 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: guy like you, who is so into dark literature would 82 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: end up being my teacher for a year. 83 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: But let's talk about your roots. 84 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: Where were you born and raised and what attracted you 85 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: to the literary field. 86 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 5: I was born in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I just 87 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 5: always had an affinity for Halloween. 88 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: I loved Halloween. 89 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 5: I loved dark things, spooky things, and that I just 90 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 5: never outgrew it that that love of Halloween especially is 91 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: just something that I always look forward to, definitely the 92 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 5: favorite holiday. And so even when I started teaching. Of course, 93 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 5: I got my degree in literature, but I always gravitated 94 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: toward the dark stories and loved those. 95 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 4: Those are just my favorites, and. 96 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 5: So the classics of those, you know, worldwide, even I 97 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 5: would love to do and work. 98 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: Halloween into my curriculum. You know. 99 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 5: We would have semester schedules in high school, of course, 100 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 5: as you recall, but in the first semester you'd have October. 101 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 5: So that was very easy for me to find some 102 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 5: literature to do there, and I would always read a 103 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: spooky story and do some fun stuff with that. One 104 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 5: time I stuck a rat, a fake rat, on the 105 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: back of my coat jacket and read a story called 106 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 5: the Graveyard Rats and had stayed seated the whole time, 107 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: I remember, before the class was there, so that when 108 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 5: I got up at the end of the story to 109 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: write on the board. They would then see the rat 110 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 5: on the back of my jacket had the graveyard rat story. 111 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 5: When I retired from teaching, because of the Halloween and 112 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 5: Halloween parties that we'd always had, we had a theme 113 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 5: one year of having a ghost tour, and so we 114 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: have a little bit of property around our house and 115 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 5: I could make scenes and I could walk around the 116 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 5: property and tell the stories about these scenes that I'd 117 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 5: made up. And after that party, I was talking with 118 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 5: my wife and my grown son and said, you know, 119 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 5: people just love that kind of thing. 120 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: Wouldn't it be. 121 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 5: Cool to do that on a full time basis, have 122 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 5: a ghost tour? But like the walking tour that you have, 123 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: I thought, well, what if you could do a hearse. 124 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 5: What if you could get a small number of people 125 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 5: and take them around the haunted places in Ashville and ahearse. 126 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 5: Within a year we had bought a nineteen seventy two 127 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 5: Cadillac Hearse and we had dark ride tours on the road, 128 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 5: and you did get the opportunity to take a tour 129 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: with us. 130 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: As I recall, Oh, absolutely, I love the entire experience. 131 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: But you know, before we get to that was teaching 132 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: your first job or did you have jobs before that. 133 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: No, teaching was my first job. 134 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 5: I went into it thinking in high school. I mean 135 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 5: from about my high school years, I started thinking about 136 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 5: being a teacher and wanting to be a teacher. And 137 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 5: this is a terrible thing to say or to confess to, 138 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 5: but often later like when they ask you, I've actually 139 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 5: got the opportunity to serve as a Teacher of the 140 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 5: Year for the county and region, But they asked you 141 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 5: questions like what inspired you to be a teacher, and 142 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 5: I'm unfortunately it's usually this wonderful, great teacher. But I 143 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 5: can remember that in the tenth grade, I had a 144 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 5: teacher and I sat in that classroom. I loved English 145 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 5: and I loved reading, and I thought, oh my god, 146 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 5: this is so bad. I could do a better job 147 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 5: than this. And that was my very arrogant sixteen year 148 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 5: old self saying, oh, yeah, I could do this. 149 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: But it really did become a thing with me. 150 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 5: Is like, I wanted to teach, So I knew when 151 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 5: I went to college that I wanted to get my 152 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 5: teaching certificate and I wanted to teach English. 153 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: And you didn't start publishing until after you retired. 154 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: Right, that's correct. 155 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 5: After thirty years of teaching and doing the ghost tours, 156 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 5: when the ghost tours ended because of COVID, I thought, well, 157 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 5: this is a good time to I'm going to go 158 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 5: ahead and put some of these why not put them 159 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 5: together in a book? And I have started out with 160 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 5: a series of Christmas horror stories, because you know, after 161 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: all that Christmas really needs right more horror, so. 162 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: I had to do. 163 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 5: I did a collection of thirteen stories there thirteen days, 164 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 5: thirteenth of Christmas. And I enjoyed doing that and had 165 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: a friend who was going to start doing He was 166 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 5: already had just started helping independent writers, indie authors publish, 167 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 5: so he helped publish. 168 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: That first book and one or two after that, and 169 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 4: that it began. 170 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 5: But it was not until then, you know, well into 171 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 5: my sixties that I started trying to publish. And I 172 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 5: just turned seventy this year. 173 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: So now getting back to the hearse and you're you know, 174 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: like you said, Lauren, and I had the honor of 175 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: being guessed in that hearse and what a unique experience 176 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: that was. You were dressed in this dramatic costume. Tell 177 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: us about Virgil, this character that you created. 178 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 5: I wanted to come up with something as a character 179 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 5: and for Josh my son, who was the driver of that. 180 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 5: We started, you know, brainstorming about ideas, and I thought, 181 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 5: I thought, I'd like the idea of being this sort 182 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 5: of grave digger, funeral home director, storyteller. 183 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 4: And then I guess, going back. 184 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: To the roots of you know, going back to Dante 185 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 5: in the Inferno, I thought, you know, Virgil, the Roman 186 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 5: poet serves as the guide to hell for Dante in 187 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: that work, and I thought, you know, I like the 188 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 5: name Virgil anyway, and I've always liked Ray Bradbury's story 189 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 5: Something Wicked This Way Comes and the main character there 190 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 5: are two boys in the story, but one is Jim Nightshade, 191 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 5: and I love the name night Shade and that whole 192 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 5: idea that you know, poison and everything about that. 193 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: So Virgil Nightshade was the name that I took for that. 194 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 5: And my son ended up wearing the garb of a 195 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 5: like almost looked like a grim reaper, but he was, 196 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 5: you know, tall, and he's just real big, and he 197 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 5: seemed intimidating with this half skull mask underneath the cow 198 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 5: that and he was our driver, and so he was 199 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 5: we referred to him as Sharon the you know, the 200 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 5: ferrymen of the dead and Greek mythology taking you across 201 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 5: so leading people into this darkness. 202 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: Perfect thing. 203 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: When we come back from this break, he's gonna tell 204 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: you the true weird story called Maggie and the Pig Face. 205 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: Hey do you like this podcast? 206 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: It's free? 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I am Joshua pe Warren, 215 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: and you are listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio 216 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I 217 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: will be right back. 218 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: Welcome back to. 219 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 220 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard of 221 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: Weird Joshua P. Warren beaming into your worm whole brain 222 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where 223 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: every day is golden and every night is silver. 224 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: I Gitato Zume. 225 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: His website is his name David Allenvoyls dot com. 226 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: That's spelled d a v I d a l l 227 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: E n v O y l e. 228 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: S dot com. When you go there, it says dark 229 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: Tales for bright minds. Let's get back to the conversation 230 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: with horror author David Allenvoyles. 231 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: When I was a teenager. 232 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: Uh, you probably recall I published a book called Speaking 233 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: of Strange and it had paranormal experiences and just weird 234 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: encounters that people from the region it had. 235 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: You published, are you? 236 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: You wrote a story that was published in that book 237 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: called Maggie in the Pig Face. 238 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 239 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you want to recap that, 240 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: but I just want to ask you in general about 241 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: some real paranormal experiences that you've had in your life. 242 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, that story that is so that is such an 243 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 5: odd were living out in Leicester, which in an area 244 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 5: you know, well at that time, I'm in Swanna, Noah. 245 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: Now on the other side of the other side of 246 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 4: the county. 247 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 5: But at that time that really wasn't a count and 248 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 5: that just enough to kind of make that story a 249 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 5: little bit shorter. And I've never been able to understand 250 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 5: it exactly or come up with possible good explanation for it. 251 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 5: But we had a dog at that time lived on 252 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 5: about seven acres we left at that time the dodge 253 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 5: run everybody did at that point, and that dog would 254 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: just travel and go all over the place. Below us 255 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: was someone who slaughtered hogs on occasion. But we had 256 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 5: the dog brought up this hogshead at one point just 257 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: and you know, it's it'd been a fresh, freshly butchered kill, 258 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 5: and we were getting ready to have company, and we thought, 259 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, this is terrible. I took the thing 260 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 5: and pitched it over the fence into the woods and 261 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 5: it tumbled down a long hill into a ravine, and 262 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 5: thought we were taking care of it. But over a 263 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 5: period of time, that dog kept bringing up this hog's 264 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 5: and weeks would go by, and of course you can 265 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 5: imagine how disgusting that was, until eventually it was just 266 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 5: this bleached out skull. Well after weeks had passed. 267 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: Beyond that of me and I'm trying to get rid 268 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: of it. Every time. 269 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 5: That dog got into something, some poison or something. I 270 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: don't prefer not to think that somebody poisoned the dog, 271 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: but it did get into poison and it died, and 272 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 5: I buried it on the edge of the property. We 273 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 5: had a long curving drive that led up to a 274 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: ranch house up on the side of the mountain there, 275 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 5: and buried the dog. Put the little toys in there, 276 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 5: like some people do with their favorite toys and things. 277 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 5: And not too long after that, one day I was 278 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: driving back up that driveway and making the curve back 279 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 5: to the house, looking at the grave because it'd often 280 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 5: do that, and I saw sitting there in a brown 281 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 5: patch of dirt that marked the grave, something white and 282 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 5: what in the world is that? 283 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: And I got out of the truck and. 284 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 5: Went over to look on it, and there was a 285 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: hog skull sitting on top. 286 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: Of her grave. And I have no idea how it 287 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: got there. 288 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 5: My wife remembers that there was another little dog that 289 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 5: would sometimes come and just sit at her grave, and uh, 290 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 5: and I, you know, it's just it's just really odd 291 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 5: to think of whatever might have happened. But it does 292 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: seem like, you know, Maggie in the face. Josh was 293 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 5: just my son. Josh was just a little kid at 294 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 5: that time, and he'd uh, he'd referred to that dog 295 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 5: it's called as a pig face, and so he when 296 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 5: when when it returns the second time, he was like, Daddy. 297 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: The pig face is back. So that was the essence 298 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 4: behind Maggie and the pig face. 299 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 5: But aside from that, I haven't had too many experiences. 300 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 5: People often say, well, you had this hearse. Did you 301 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: ever have any experiences with the supernatural and the hearse? Well, 302 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 5: I've said often that I'm apparently about as spiritually sensitive 303 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: as a brick. 304 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: You know, I just don't. 305 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 5: Ever since any of the things that other spirit sensitives do, 306 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 5: and I've I'd like to, but it just doesn't seem 307 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 5: to happen to me. 308 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 4: But I have had on occasion. 309 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 5: Spirit sensitives tell me about things that were happening, especially 310 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 5: one story about the hearse. 311 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 4: If you'd like to hear that. 312 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, sure, when we I don't know how long 313 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 5: we'd had it. 314 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: I'm not sure even if we had actually begun having. 315 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 5: The tours yet, but I knew of a woman and 316 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 5: had come to known her who just convinced me even 317 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 5: though I am a skeptic, and I look at this 318 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 5: and approach it the way you do. Really you always 319 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 5: look at it from the scientific point of view, as 320 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 5: if to disprove it and then see what can still 321 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 5: be there. So I'm very much a skeptic of these things, 322 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 5: but I had experiences with her that just made me 323 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 5: feel like I can't come up with any other explanation 324 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 5: that there are such things as spirits, that there are 325 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 5: connections we can have with the dead. Well, she had 326 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 5: invited her over to see the hearse, I think early 327 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 5: on after we had gotten it and renovated it and 328 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 5: ready to do the tours, and so she came over. 329 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 5: We just opened the door, she stuck her head in it, 330 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 5: and I guess I should say first, we bought the 331 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 5: hearse from a fellow in Virginia who actually was selling 332 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: it as a part of an estate from his brother 333 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 5: who had passed away. His brother had owned the hearse 334 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 5: and he had used it as a business and had 335 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 5: put Hi Fi equipment in it, stereo equipment, and he 336 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 5: would DJ parties. So we learned about that, and we 337 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 5: had to do quite a bit of renovation beyond that, 338 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 5: because it's sat for a long time. But anyway, that's 339 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 5: the person that we bought it from. Well, without her 340 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: knowing any of that history, we opened the door up 341 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 5: for her to see her. 342 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 4: She stuck her. 343 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 5: Head in and she said, as you recall, we had 344 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 5: like there were two rows of seats, one that ran 345 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 5: all the way down the length of the hearse and 346 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 5: went across the middle, separated from the front seat. She 347 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 5: stuck her head in the side door and she said, well, 348 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 5: first of all, let me tell you, I'm hearing rock 349 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 5: and roll music, seventies rock and roll music, especially Creden's 350 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 5: clear Water Okay, And she said, and there's a gentleman 351 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 5: sitting in the corner of where these seats that you've 352 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 5: made very happy, very pleased, thrilled with what you're doing 353 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 5: with the hearse, very very large fellow, very very huge fellow. 354 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 5: But he loves this music. Well, I didn't know it 355 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 5: at that time. I didn't know that he had done 356 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 5: these parties. But I sent another message back after this 357 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 5: to his brother who. 358 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 4: Had survived, who sold us the hurst, and said, I 359 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: just got to ask you a question. Did your brother, 360 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: particularly what kind of music did he play? He said, 361 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 4: oh yeah, it was definitely seventies music. 362 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 5: But he was a real fan of Creeden Sclarewater Uh huh. 363 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 5: And I had seen pictures of him, but I said, 364 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 5: and your brother was a pretty large man, and he said, 365 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: oh yeah, he was huge. So how she was able 366 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 5: to zero on those are just not things that you can. 367 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 4: Coincidentally come up with. That just struck me as like, Okay, 368 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: so I'm glad if we're going to have a haunted hearse. 369 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 5: That the previous owner of the hearse was at least 370 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 5: happy what we were doing with it. 371 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: Wow. That yeah, that is I mean so specific. 372 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: When things like that happen, you scratch your head and 373 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: you say, how could that possibly be coincidence? 374 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 375 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 5: I know, you know, and I watch shows all the time. 376 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 5: I love watching these shows. But I'm you know, I'm understanding, 377 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 5: or I'm at least skeptic enough to go, oh, they 378 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 5: could have done thus and so to find out that 379 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 5: information or done this kind of research or whatever. 380 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 4: Somebody told them that they had to tell them that. 381 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 5: This was stuff that I'm only I knew I was 382 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 5: the only connecting point here to those two people that 383 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: she had no idea who we had bought this from 384 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 5: it was in another state. And as you say, when 385 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 5: you had those kinds of facts come up, it's that's 386 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 5: a head scratcher. It's hard to say that. Hard to 387 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: come up with any other kind of of uh, justific 388 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 5: not justification, explanation for it. Hard to come up with that. 389 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: And things like that just continue inspiring ideas for stories. 390 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you've written a. 391 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: Number of books, including your latest novel, Edgar, and let 392 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: me tell you this is impressive, to say the least, 393 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: all the way from concept to execution, right to the 394 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: last page. 395 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: Tell us about Edgar, I got. 396 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 5: I had been wanting to write a book about Edgar 397 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 5: Allen Poe for decades. The thing that I wanted to write, 398 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 5: and I say this in the introduction to the book. 399 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: I have wanted to do this. 400 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 5: There's such a mystery about Poe's death, and everyone has, 401 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 5: you know, come up with all kinds of different possibilities, which, 402 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 5: by the way, his death October seventh, as we're recording 403 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 5: this is still that's tomorrow for us right now. That 404 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 5: that death has been fascinating of how why did he 405 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 5: end up. 406 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: Where he did? And close there aren't. 407 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 5: Even his Most people assume assumed that he was in 408 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 5: a drunken state, because that's what the people that found 409 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 5: him thought. But why was he there, why was he 410 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 5: not wearing his own clothes? What happened to him? I 411 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 5: wanted to write a story about that, but this book edgar. 412 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 5: When I finally came down around to sitting down to 413 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 5: write a book about Poe, that's not the story that 414 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 5: came out. 415 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: For some reason, and I cannot explain it. I just 416 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: wanted to write a story. 417 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 5: I thought, you need to write one about if he 418 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 5: was a boy, with the premise of what if. All 419 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 5: the scariest things that Poe told about in his stories 420 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 5: were all inspired by things that happened to him when 421 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 5: he was a boy at fifteen years old living in Richmond, Virginia. 422 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 5: Wouldn't that be an interesting story? So that's the one 423 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 5: I wrote. And I had such fun researching things about 424 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 5: Richmond at that time, finding out things about real people 425 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 5: in his life that I wanted to incorporate into the story. 426 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 5: His relationship with his adoptive parents, John Allen and Francis Allen, what. 427 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 4: That would have been like. 428 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 5: There was quite a bit of tension that he had 429 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 5: with his adopted father all those things I wanted to 430 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 5: work in, but I wanted to work in his stories well, 431 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 5: so I took thirteen or so of the stories and 432 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 5: reworked them a little bit, but had under the basic 433 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 5: premise one of his stories in which there is the 434 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 5: narrator of the story, William Wilson, is the story is 435 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 5: a doubleganger for the narrator, he sees himself and this 436 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 5: covers years in this character's life, making his life miserable. 437 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 5: And I said, Okay. 438 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 4: That's going to be the premise story. 439 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 5: The Eedgar Allen Poe has a doubleganger and it is 440 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 5: making his life miserable by causing these supernatural events that 441 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 5: will go on. 442 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: And I can work in stories, parts. 443 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 5: Of post tales into the chapters, but make it one 444 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 5: long cohesive tale. 445 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: When we come back more on Edgar. And then also 446 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: what happens on Halloween Night when you drive around in Asheville, 447 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: North Carolina and a hearse, Well, he has kind of 448 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: a funny story about that as well. 449 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: I'm Joshua P. 450 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 4: Warren. 451 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 452 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network, and I will be 453 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: back after these important messages, So stick around. Welcome back 454 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to co 455 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: st Paranormal podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, 456 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Well, 457 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: it's time for the conclusion of my conversation with author 458 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: David Allen Voyles, and we were just talking about his 459 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: brand new novel called Edgar. It actually, as I was 460 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: reading it, it inspired me to want to go back and 461 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: reread some of Poe's stories so that I could further 462 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: solidify the connections, which and that's one of the great 463 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: things about this book is that it sort of opens 464 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: up all of these other worlds of possibility. And let 465 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: me just tell you, I don't know if you've thought 466 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: about this. 467 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: I bet you have. 468 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: When I finished reading this, I thought to myself and 469 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people listen to this podcast, somebody out 470 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 1: there needs to buy the rights to this book and 471 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: turn it into a TV series about young Edgar Allan Poe. 472 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 4: It does. I kind of picture it that way. 473 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 5: It wasn't the way that I intended as I'm writing it, 474 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 5: but it does flow that way, and it's very episodic. 475 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 5: It definitely has these because each chapter, each chapter really 476 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 5: is going is influenced by a particular chapter or a 477 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 5: story of Moose. And even though it's connected all over, 478 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 5: it takes place over one summer. It definitely has that 479 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 5: kind of episodic flow. 480 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: So with a. 481 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: Connecting theme of this doppelganger, this dark Edgar that keeps 482 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 5: appearing and making Edgar Allan Poe's life miserable. 483 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just a wonderful book and I hope 484 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: everybody will go read this. We're going to give out 485 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: your website to actually go ahead and give it out 486 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: right now, what's your website address? 487 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's David Alanvoiles dot com. And I spell my 488 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 5: Alan a little different than Edgar Allen Poe. Mine is 489 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 5: a L L E end, So David Alanvoyles dot com. 490 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: We did have one. 491 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 5: Mentus Halloween where it was the only time this really happened, 492 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 5: but being an old hearse and somewhat questionable, it broke 493 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 5: down on Halloween night with customers in it, and that 494 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 5: was unbelievable. We had two or three we had made 495 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 5: special tours for it. Pulled up into the UNCA parking lot, 496 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 5: which was one of our first stops and we knew 497 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 5: we were had had some questions about the Hears's mechanics 498 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 5: at the point, but we thought, no, we've already got 499 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 5: these people book for Halloween night. 500 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 4: It seems to be doing okay. 501 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 5: And Josh gave me the signal from the front seat, 502 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 5: kind of a line across the throat, and when he 503 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 5: turned around to look at him after hearing a particularly 504 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 5: loud clunk, like, nope, this tour is over, and we 505 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: had to pull into the parking lot and tell them 506 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but this Hears's died, unfortunately, and they laughed 507 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 5: and chuckled ha ha haa, thinking it was part of 508 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 5: the tour, and I had to say. 509 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 4: This isn't part of the tour. 510 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: I'm afraid I got to call you a taxi or 511 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 5: aneuber and we got those folks. They were so and 512 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 5: so forgiving one of the couples. We didn't realize it 513 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 5: at the time, but we did the same thing the 514 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 5: following Halloween and. 515 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 4: Didn't realize that. 516 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 5: They told me and they said, you know, we were 517 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 5: in that Hearst that broke down last year. But we 518 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 5: still loved the whole idea of it so much that 519 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 5: we had to do it again, and so they got 520 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: they did it, and we got the successful right out. 521 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 5: But I will never forget that Halloween when the Hearst died. 522 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: One of the nice things about being in the ghost 523 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: business is that when you screw up or something breaks through, whatever, 524 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: you can just say, oh, I told you ghost for 525 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: real this year? Oh man, Well, so that opportunity give 526 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: us your website once again and anything else you'd like 527 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: to say. 528 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: The floor is yours. 529 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 5: The website is David allenvoyls dot com. I also invite 530 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 5: people to join me on Facebook for the Dark Corners page. 531 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 5: It's a dark Dark Corners is the name of it, 532 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 5: which is also the name of the podcast that I have. 533 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 5: I haven't been active the podcast, but it's basically got 534 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 5: three seasons that you can listen to. Now I want 535 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 5: to come back and revisit and add to that. But 536 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 5: the first season is my mention of some of my 537 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 5: original short stories. Season two is a novella that's in 538 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 5: thirteen episodes called Which Works, And the third season is 539 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 5: the novel in thirteen episodes as well, called Raiths of 540 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: the Appalachian. 541 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: Well, David, the clock has got us, But once again, 542 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's absolutely amazing that I had 543 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: the honor to be your student. I knew we had 544 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: a lot in common, but I did not realize just 545 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: how much at the time. And it's been wonderful to 546 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: remain your friend after all these decades, and I know 547 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: you will continue to surprise and entertain us with your 548 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: amazing tales. So thank you so much for being my guest. 549 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: It's been a thrill. 550 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 5: It's my pleasure as well to be able to talk 551 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 5: to you with you and share those stories with you, 552 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 5: and I look forward to hearing even more from your 553 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 5: broadcasts as well. 554 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: All Right, once again, his website is Davidallenvoyles dot com. 555 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: Of course, you could just go to Amazon and type 556 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: in his name, and as a matter of fact, I mean, 557 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: you'll find all of his books. But right now I'm 558 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: looking at Edgar when Poe's Nightmares began. I'm telling you 559 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: it's got almost five out of five. I mean practically 560 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: five out of five stars. It's like, maybe there's a 561 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: little sliver of white, but it's basically five out of 562 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: five stars. And that's really hard to get nowadays. People 563 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: are so mean when they review stuff, and the paperback's 564 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: only thirteen dollars ninety nine cents and the Kendle is 565 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: four ninety nine, So if you like that kind of novel, 566 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: then you should check out his work. So we'll see 567 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: what he's up to in the future. Well, I think 568 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: it would be great if we just continued this theme 569 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: of tales from the hearse and I just kept telling 570 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: you tales that are creepy and spooky for the rest 571 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: of the show. And since it's my show, that is 572 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. And therefore, let me go right 573 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: to right to the emails that I get. I get 574 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: some of the most interesting emails from listeners. Here's one 575 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: from Paulette. She says, Hi, Joshua, the other night, my 576 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: husband and I were listening to your podcast. We live 577 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: in the Sierra Foothills, so we are an hour from everywhere, 578 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: so we listened to you in the car. You were 579 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: talking about your friend that passed away and how you 580 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: have a word to confirm so you knew when it 581 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: was them after they passed. Well, about six years ago, 582 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: my mother passed from Kola cancer. I'm an only child 583 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: and I have three now adult children. My mom was 584 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: a paranormal sci fi fan for as long as I 585 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: can remember, and we talked about if she ever died, 586 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: she needed to let us know she was still around. 587 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: Well toward the end of mom's life, I had to 588 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: move into help her. I lived with her about three 589 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: months before she passed away at home. The next few 590 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: days after her passing were just a blur of making 591 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: arrangements and talking with family. After five days, my youngest 592 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: daughter was in the car with me and she looked 593 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: at me and said, Mom, I'm disappointed. I really thought 594 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: Grandma was going to let us know she was around. 595 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: And I said, well, honey, I'm sad about that too, 596 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: but I guess it just as it meant to be. 597 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: We were sitting in the driveway at my mom's house, 598 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: where I was still living, and as we backed up, 599 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: my rear sensor went off and in my video on 600 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: the screen in the car, there was a green digital 601 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: block showing there was something in the way, and we 602 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of looked at each other, and I got out 603 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: to investigate because there was nothing there. When I got 604 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: back in the car, I proceeded to put it in reverse, 605 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: and there it was again, that green digital block, and 606 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: we looked at each other with delight, and my daughter 607 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: said so you think it's Grandma. I said, I don't know, 608 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: and then I said, Mom, get in the car. She 609 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: went everywhere with us when she was alive. I put 610 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: it in reverse again and well, no green block. We 611 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: were excited about it and talked about it all day, 612 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: and later that evening we were in the car again, 613 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: back in the driveway. We were telling my cousin about it, 614 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: and he said, you're crazy. We proceeded to back up 615 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: and nothing. He said it was just a fluke, and 616 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: I said, wow, I really thought it would happen again. 617 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: I pulled back into the driveway and before I backed 618 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: out again, I said, mom, my cousin thinks I'm crazy. 619 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: Please show him what I'm talking about. We proceeded to 620 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: back up and boom. There were now two squares. 621 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 3: One yellow and one green. 622 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: The square colors represent how close you are to hitting something, 623 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: and my daughter and I squealed and my cousin's eyes 624 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: just got big. Wow, he said. Then we continued on 625 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: our way. It happened one more time after that, and 626 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: this time there were three blocks, two green and one yellow. 627 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: You see, my dad passed away when I was young, 628 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: and my mom's husband had passed several years before, and 629 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm convinced this electromagnetic energy came from them. It settled 630 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: my mind about the afterworld, and in a weird way, 631 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: it comforted me because I believe the three of them 632 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: are together. It never happened again after that. That's my story, 633 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: and I believe glad I could share this with you, Sincerely, 634 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: your fan, Paulette. Wow, thank you, Paul Atte. You know 635 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: what I said, I was going to tell you a 636 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: creepy story that wasn't creepy at all. That was very inspirational. 637 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: I love that story, and you know, it kind of 638 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: reminds me of this idea that sometimes you can perhaps 639 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: use your car as a ghost hunting tool. I mean, 640 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: that's kind of what she was doing there. She was 641 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: using the car as an instrument to sense spirits. I mean, 642 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: for example, my wife, Lauren is from Texas and her 643 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: mother used to live near San Antonio, and there's this 644 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: little hill outside of San Antonio where you can you 645 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: can park your car. Well, you don't park it, you 646 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: just put your car in neutral, and all of a 647 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: sudden it will start rolling up hill, or so it 648 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: seings until it goes up and over some railroad tracks, 649 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: and the story is that some kids died when their 650 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: school bus was hit on those railroad tracks. Well, I 651 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: have an update for you when we get back. But hey, listen, look, 652 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: I promised you a creepy story, so I'm going to 653 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: give you one. I'm going to tell you about what 654 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: one person saw upon waking up. What would you do 655 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: if you saw this at the end of your bed, 656 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: perched at the end of your bed when you wake 657 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night. I'm Joshua pe Warren. 658 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 659 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be 660 00:37:41,400 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this 661 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 662 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 663 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 3: I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. 664 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, the story was that this busload of kids 665 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: back in the day was hit by a train. They 666 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: all died right there on the train tracks. And so 667 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: now if you go there and you put your car 668 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: in neutral, even though you're at the bottom of a 669 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: hill and the tracks are at the top of the hill, 670 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: the car will just start rolling up the hill, and 671 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 1: we did it. 672 00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 3: And it worked. 673 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: About thirty feet up this slight hill onto the railroad 674 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: tracks and over, and it's really an amazing experience. And 675 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: they said that if you had talcum powder and you'd 676 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: sprinkle it on the back of your car, that when 677 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: afterward you get out and you look and you'd see 678 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: the fingerprints and the talcum powder of all the little kids. 679 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: But we didn't have any talcum powder. But the fact 680 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: of the matter is, I mean, this is what's known 681 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: as a gravity hill. It's actually an optical illusion. It's 682 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,439 Speaker 1: an amazing optical illusion, though, because it really does look 683 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: like you're going uphill, and yet somehow you're not. You're 684 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: going ultimately downhill. You'll have to look up the physics 685 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: of that. And they always said that the reason that 686 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: you would have fingerprints pop up from the talcum powder 687 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: is that you probably have a bunch of fingerprints already 688 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: all over the back of your car, all over your trunk, 689 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: and you just don't know it because you're touching it 690 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: all the time. And so when you sprinkle the talcum 691 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: powder on there, you see them, and it's just you 692 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: combine those two effects and it's really powerful. But it 693 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: absolutely works as described. However, I just looked it up 694 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: and somebody has written here that in twenty eighteen that 695 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: they redid the road and it changed the physics of 696 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: the road, so the effect no longer occurs. 697 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: Ha, how about that. That's kind of sad, isn't it. Hey? 698 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: The concept is cool that you could maybe use your 699 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: car as a paranormal instrument. Why don't some of you 700 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: try out the experiment that Paulette did and let us 701 00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: know what happens in your case? All right, before I 702 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: tell you this scary story, I can't help it. I 703 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,439 Speaker 1: just have a little short one here that I just love. 704 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: It's inspirational, got it. I gotta squeeze this one in 705 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: here before I get to this terrifying stuff. I got 706 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: this message from a man named Utah. His name is Roy. 707 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: He said, Joshua, I had terrible neuropathy in my left leg, burning, numbness, 708 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 1: and tingling sensations due to nerve damage. But after wearing 709 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: the Tesla Purple medallion every day, the neuropathy has vanished. 710 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: After many years of suffering, I can now touch my 711 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: left leg and it feels normal, no burning at all. 712 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: Simply amazing. I am shocked at the profound results. Miraculous. 713 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Roy. I don't know if you have ever 714 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: experienced in kind of neuropathy, but that is a horrible 715 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: thing and I'm just that warms my heart to know that, Roy, 716 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: you have been helped by this. 717 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 3: Thank you for this message. And you know. 718 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm not a medical professional. I'm not out there trying 719 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: to sell snake oil or anything like that. But I'm 720 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: just reading you the email the guy got. If you 721 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: want to experiment with that kind of thing, I believe 722 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: I still have some of those Tesla purple pendants in 723 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 1: my curiosity shop if you go to Joshuapwarren dot com. 724 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 1: So I just had to squeeze that one in there. Okay, 725 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: here is a message I got from a man he 726 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: said I could use his full name, Joseph S. Peters, 727 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: regarding an incident in Houston, Texas. Going back to Texas again, 728 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: he said, the most frightening experience a child could go 729 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: through happened to me when I was four years old. 730 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: At the time, I was living with my mother in 731 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: an apartment that seemed to exist between our realm and 732 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: a much more frighten dimension. One night, I awoke to 733 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 1: find a shadow creature perched at the end of my bed. 734 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 1: I stood up in shock while my brain was trying 735 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: to comprehend the beast that was staring me down. It 736 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 1: was blacker than night, with the appearance of a cross 737 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: between a vulture and a bat. The shadow creature spread 738 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: out its wings with a span of four to five 739 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: feet as it cried a psychic screech. The sound was 740 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: so loud and terrifying that I had tears fall from 741 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: my eyes before I actually fainted. I woke up some 742 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: time later and noticed the sliding door to the closet 743 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: in front of me was open. On the top shelf 744 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 1: in the corner stood the same demonic creature. I jumped up, 745 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: fearing for my life, begging the creature not to scream 746 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: that awful sound. I was scared by its screech and 747 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: was willing to do anything not to hear it again. 748 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: The shadow beast then flew out of my closet toward me, 749 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: ultimately paralyzing my body. I could only think this was 750 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,479 Speaker 1: the end, for surely this bat from hell would kill me. Then, 751 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: in a split second, it turned around and flew through 752 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: the door, going. 753 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 3: Out in the hallway. 754 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: Once it was gone. I regained control over my body 755 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: and I screamed out at the top of my lungs 756 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: for my mother, who was sleeping next to me. She 757 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: woke up and asked me what the problem was. Not 758 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 1: knowing how to describe my experience, I told her something 759 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: was in our house and that it was trying to 760 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: get me. And my mother immediately looked through every room 761 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: to find the intruder and returned to the bed, saying 762 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: there was nothing in the apartment. This was not the 763 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: first paranormal event in the apartment, nor would it be 764 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: the last. As for the shadow creature, I can only 765 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: assume it was a demon. However it appeared to me, 766 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: And why would it appear to me, I would never 767 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 1: know before we left that place, long before we could 768 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: find that out. Now you might say, well, this is 769 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: just coming from a four year old. 770 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. 771 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: Kids are capable of seeing things that adults cannot see, 772 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: and I remember things very vividly from when I was 773 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:25,439 Speaker 1: four years old. As a matter of fact, I've told 774 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: you this before. I remember I have memories of being in. 775 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 3: The crib. 776 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 1: And not being able to talk. My very first memory 777 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: that I have. I mean I'm talking to. My very 778 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: first memory was cookie Monster, and because my mom and 779 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 1: dad had bought me a big, blue, furry cookie Monster. 780 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: And at whatever, I don't know what point this happened 781 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: to me, but I was a baby who couldn't even speak, 782 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: lying their helpless in a crib, and I remember very 783 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: clearly seeing Cookie Monster. And I've heard that. You know, 784 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to be able to remember that far back, 785 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: but I sure could. Here's a story from Joe in Canton, Ohio. 786 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: He says, my grandfather passed away in the mid nineteen eighties. 787 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: We sold his vehicle as we were selling some of 788 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: his possessions. My mother and grandmother signed the title and 789 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: the new owner came to pick up the vehicle. They 790 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: could not find the car keys anywhere. The house was 791 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: searched from top to bottom in drawers and closets, on 792 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: shelves and tables, they were nowhere to be found. A 793 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: few days later, my mother arrived at my grandma's house 794 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: and found her to be distraught. My mother asked what 795 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: was wrong, and she would only reply that she had 796 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: found the keys. My mother was happy to hear the 797 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: news and ask where they'd been. My grandmother replied on 798 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: the floor in the middle of the bathroom. We certainly 799 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: would have found them quickly if they'd been their days earlier. 800 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: It seemed like Grandpa didn't want to sell the car. 801 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 1: And now I've read this one to you before, but 802 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: it's one of my favorites. This came to me from 803 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: Thomas Kelly, Minneapolis, Minnesota. He says, in nineteen ninety seven, 804 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: my girlfriend and I were renting a huge, beautiful, old 805 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 1: duplex in South Minneapolis. My girlfriend worked the night shift 806 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: ten pm to seven am. I would go to bed 807 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: just after she left her work, and she would wake 808 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: me in the morning when she returned home. One morning, 809 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: she woke me up and asked me why there was 810 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: a butcher knife in the bathtub. I told her I 811 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: had no idea, and we laughed it off. A few 812 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: weeks later, she woke me up and asked why there 813 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: were bone cutters in the bathtub, and again we laughed 814 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: it off, as the kitchen was adjacent to the bathroom 815 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: and the butcher block knife holder was on the counter 816 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: just outside the bathroom. A month or so later, a 817 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 1: similar thing happened. My girlfriend asked me why the bone 818 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 1: cutters were in the bathroom sink. This continued for three years, 819 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: probably ten times. Somehow in the night the cutlery would 820 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: end up in the bathroom, in the bathtub or the 821 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: sink one time, and the toilet one night. The butcher 822 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,479 Speaker 1: knife was lying at the foot of our bed. During 823 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: our last weekend in the duplex, we threw a party 824 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: and invited the downstairs tenant and all the tenants, and 825 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: there was a couple who had lived in the building 826 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 1: for years, and when the subject of the landlord came up, 827 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: we both went white when they told us in nineteen 828 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: sixty eight, our landlord's mother had committed suicide in our unit, 829 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: in the bathtub with a butcher knife. Okay, let's clear 830 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: the air and in the show. On a positive note, 831 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: take a deep breath. 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