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Speaker 1: It's hell love. Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Nice Sham.

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Speaker 1: Your host drump Shooter, and it's Friday, which means I

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Speaker 1: hear your friend Corey Andrew joins us. Hey, Corey, are

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Speaker 2: I am here, darling.

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Speaker 1: How you being great? This time? Last week I was

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Speaker 1: in London. I was at home visiting my mom and dad.

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Speaker 1: I know, so we didn't get to play. Last week

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Speaker 1: I did a show from my mom and dad's spare bedroom. Utias.

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Speaker 1: You're so kind. There's a few technical issues, I'm the

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Speaker 1: first to admit, but it's lovely to be back in

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Speaker 1: my US home. And yesterday I was on the Elvis

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Speaker 1: durranhow so I've got to say hello, welcome to all

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Speaker 1: our new listeners. He's the number one radio show in America.

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Speaker 1: He beats Howard Stern, he beats Ryan Seacrest. The numbers

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Speaker 1: listens to it's always texting me about the gossip each day.

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Speaker 1: to have him as a friend, as a mentor. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Elvis Deveran. I know you are listening. Okay, let's jump

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Speaker 1: into the show. But leve lel lul Lulu. What time

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Speaker 1: is it? My friends? It is tea times big story

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Speaker 1: at the top of the show, A bit of a

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Speaker 1: sad one here, Megan markl and Prince Harry are losing

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Speaker 1: a lot of their Hollywood friends. They're quote dropping like flyers.

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Speaker 1: So Princess Diana's former butler, Paul Burrell, who I used

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Speaker 1: I've represented everybody. He was a real character, really fun,

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Speaker 1: really campy, really over the top, and he really did

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Speaker 1: know Diana and these little boys when they were just tiny.

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Speaker 1: And so he's saying that their circle seems to be

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Speaker 1: getting smaller and smaller, and a lot of a listeners

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Speaker 1: are dropping them like flies. If you think about it,

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Speaker 1: when they first came to America, they were with Oprah,

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Speaker 1: the cloonies were at their wedding. All that seems to

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Speaker 1: have gone away a little bit. Now. This sounds mean

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Speaker 1: This is what life is about particularly Hollywood. If you

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Speaker 1: think of friends who have come into your life, few

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Speaker 1: of them actually lasts the long run. I meet hundreds

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Speaker 1: of people each week doing what I do for a living.

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Speaker 1: It's a thrill. I like it, but I never mistake

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Speaker 1: what that relationship is. It's transactional. And I'm not putting

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Speaker 1: Oprah down here. I'm not putting Gail King down here.

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Speaker 1: But they've only got so much time in their life

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Speaker 1: to have new friends. And it's lovely meeting new people,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Naughti's I'm such an optimist. I always

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Speaker 1: I really do believe that. However, it often doesn't quite

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Speaker 1: work out like that because of timing, because of schedules.

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Speaker 1: When they came to America, everybody wanted a piece of them.

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Speaker 1: They were the it couple. They're on the of all

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Speaker 3: No, no, I mean. And the thing is too when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the friendship aspect. Those weddings were so

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Speaker 3: high profile. You had people who didn't even know them

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Speaker 3: at the wedding. Most weddings in general, you invite family,

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Speaker 3: you invite friends, you know, you know that was just

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Speaker 3: as you said, transactional. In many ways, Oprah were sort

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Speaker 2: Up at that wedding.

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Speaker 1: Oh she's no fool. Yeah, yeah, she's no fool.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, I think you know.

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Speaker 3: So, I don't know if it's really just some people

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Speaker 2: Perhaps Americans might be just over it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was told that Megan and Harry just were

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Speaker 1: not that much fun. They take themselves too seriously. I

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Speaker 1: Really just wish them well. But sometimes don't meet the

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Speaker 1: people that you idolize. Don't meet people that you're a

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Speaker 1: fan of, because they often disappoint you. We've worked with

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Speaker 1: a lot of celebrities, a lot of famous people, and

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Speaker 1: they're not quite as interesting in real life as they

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Speaker 1: get Bartino's Let me just put that on the record

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Speaker 1: right now. But I think here that this is the

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Speaker 1: natural ebb and flows of life. I would love, in

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Speaker 1: theory to be friends with Harry and Meghan. I'd be lovely,

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Speaker 1: that's now what's happening to Megan and Harry. Although inside

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Speaker 1: this out together, which brings us to our pole question

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Speaker 1: of the day. Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are losing

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Speaker 1: but think about it. Do you really want another needy

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Speaker 1: but she's really needy. But twenty I can't throw away

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Speaker 1: twenty years of history. Would I start a new relationship

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Speaker 1: that I know is going to be complicated? What do

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Speaker 1: Nice Rob or our Facebook page which is Nordy Gossip,

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Speaker 1: and be sure to check back on Monday to hear

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Speaker 1: your results. Hey, Corey Love, what are you working on? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Well, another housewife scandal, and this one involves Leah McSweeney.

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Speaker 3: Now she is filing a new lawsuit against Andy Cohen,

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Speaker 3: and she's claiming that he tried to bully her into silence.

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Speaker 3: she says that Cohen attempted to intimidate her into silence

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Speaker 3: after she initially sued him, which is also a problem.

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Speaker 3: You can't retaliate against people in the workplace when they

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Speaker 3: sue you, So that's pretty bad too, if that's true.

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Speaker 3: But the suit alleges that the producer has had historically

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Speaker 3: You know, everyone loves a good train wreck, that's great

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Speaker 2: Exploit her.

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Speaker 3: Illness, her alcoholism to try to get ratings on the show.

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Speaker 3: Then she minted her suit, and she says that Cohen

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Speaker 3: we've heard before. She's also claiming that Cohen was doing

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Speaker 3: special favors. He says that's not true, and of course

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Speaker 3: Bravo says that an investigation has cleared Andy of wrongdoing.

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Speaker 3: Although I don't know if you could. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they can say that he didn't do cocaine. I mean,

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Speaker 3: no one unless you're like in Studio fifty four in

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Speaker 3: the seventies. People don't just do that in the public.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know how Bravo can you confirm that

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Speaker 3: Andy didn't do that. But they are sticking by Andy

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Speaker 3: very much because it's an hr issue. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a big lawsuit potentially, So Bravo sticking to their guy, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think double down on him? I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised about it. They have doubled down on Andy really aggressively.

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Speaker 1: They have a very aggressive PR department, and that's what

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Speaker 1: Leah appears to be very upset about that after she

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Speaker 1: filed the first lawsuit, they did go after her pretty heavily.

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Speaker 1: Andy has his own radio show where he could talk

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Speaker 1: and now she said she's being basically intimidated to not

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Speaker 1: housewife out there. It's sloppy. Let's be clear here, Brather's

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Speaker 1: a sloppy network and be sloppy. The shows are sloppy.

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't be surprised that eventually this was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Now it's complicated though, because Lea, I guess she knew

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Speaker 1: what she was getting into. Is it true that Bravo

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Speaker 1: exploits people's weaknesses to get more ratings. No, it's not

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Speaker 1: a secret. We've all seen the show. A lot of

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Speaker 1: in that one job that was just toxic. We knew

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Speaker 1: lot of reckoning coming here. As you said, Bravo has

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Speaker 1: had an internal investigation and they've declared Andy is innocent. However,

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Speaker 1: and Leah saying nobody interviewed her, so how can you

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Speaker 1: really investigate this? How can you investigate it if no

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Speaker 1: They're being paid by Bravo, and so this is going

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Speaker 1: to go forward. I do think, though, brother has picked

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Speaker 1: not as messy as a Ramona. She's not as all

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Speaker 1: All of this is gonna come out okay, moving forward.

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Speaker 1: I love this story because it just proves that Taylor

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Speaker 1: Swift is human. She was in Edinburgh. It was freezing,

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Speaker 1: gone viral. Ultimately, She's Extraordinary sold out three nights in Edinburgh.

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Speaker 1: She's heading to London this weekend. I got my niece's tickets,

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Speaker 1: so suddenly I'm the most I know. I'm the best

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, I like the story.

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Speaker 1: I don't have celebrity friends. I know a lot of celebrities.

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Speaker 2: To me nice.

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Speaker 2: It's not even nice, okay, darling to see Yeah,