Speaker 1: The game was over and New York jef the world
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Speaker 1: Jet toucksdown. You're listening to the Official New York Jets podcast,
Speaker 1: a Jets three sixty production. Ethan Greenberg and Erik Allen
Speaker 1: here in studio on the Official Jets Podcast. So we
Speaker 1: were in here earlier today and we recorded a podcast.
Speaker 1: Wasn't really earlier today, It was earlier today. It's hard
Speaker 1: to believe. We recorded the podcast The Day's Round together.
Speaker 1: We recorded a podcast talking about Jets Eagles Thursday night
Speaker 1: pre season finale, and then mid afternoon, Teddy Bridgewater was traded.
Speaker 1: So we're back in studio. And for those who don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm breaking news to you, well, frankly you
Speaker 1: should check Twitter more often if you have a Twitter.
Speaker 1: But if you don't have Twitter and you're I don't know,
Speaker 1: I probably can get on Instagram too. Write the trade. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would assume so and so. But if you're not
Speaker 1: on social media and you you're relying on e A
Speaker 1: and myself is that Teddy Bridgewater is now a member
Speaker 1: of the New Orleans Saints. The Jets traded Bridgewater and
Speaker 1: a six round pick in two thousand nineteen, they got
Speaker 1: back at two third round pick e A. What do
Speaker 1: you think about the deal? I'm not shocked that Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater was traded. I was a little bit surprised by
Speaker 1: the destination because the Saints obviously have a future Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer at quarterback, durable one as well, and they
Speaker 1: they got a couple of guys behind him right now,
Speaker 1: I would imagine, and I wrote this just now, that
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater comes in automatically becomes your backup quarterback. But
Speaker 1: I know this is the official Jets podcast, is not
Speaker 1: an NFL podcast, And just looking at the trade is
Speaker 1: that why does it happen? Because Sam Donald frankly had
Speaker 1: a very good spring, and you could make the he
Speaker 1: meant that he had a better summer. And while Bridgewater
Speaker 1: uh played very well for the Jets since signing here
Speaker 1: in March, and Sam Donald is the future of this organization,
Speaker 1: I think to get a third round pick for someone
Speaker 1: that hasn't played football in two years and his only
Speaker 1: football action has been in preseason, I think that's pretty
Speaker 1: darn impressive when you consider that a third round pick
Speaker 1: is what the Browns gave up to get Tyrod Taylor,
Speaker 1: who lead the Bills of the playoffs last year. So
Speaker 1: I think it's very it's a very good deal. And
Speaker 1: you know, I know there's a lot of speculation that
Speaker 1: maybe the Jets will use that extra third round pick
Speaker 1: either before the season, similar to what the Jets did
Speaker 1: with Jermaine Curse, they acquired more picks and than they
Speaker 1: used it later on. When later on maybe is the
Speaker 1: big question because I've seen reports that are maybe they
Speaker 1: try to get a pass rusher before the season, or
Speaker 1: maybe you try to use the extra third round pick
Speaker 1: in the draft to move up in the draft. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be speculation, of course, but I think you
Speaker 1: have more Ammo. And you have to credit Mike mcagnan
Speaker 1: again because he went out and signed Bridgewater before Sam
Speaker 1: Donald was acquired and actually before I believe the st
Speaker 1: Patrick's day was when the Jets traded with Indianapolis and
Speaker 1: moved up those three spots and sent their first along
Speaker 1: with the Trio second round picks to America's heartland to
Speaker 1: the Horseshoes. But that was after they had signed Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: So the events happened like this Bridgewater signs, then the
Speaker 1: resigning of McCown happens a couple of hours later. Then
Speaker 1: a few days later mcagnan trades to go up from
Speaker 1: six to number three. You just think about what mccagnan,
Speaker 1: Brian Heimerdinger, and the rest of the personnel staff did
Speaker 1: in this spring. It's really impression. I totally agree with that,
Speaker 1: and what you just mentioned all happened in the span
Speaker 1: of five days. Because the legal tampering period starts two
Speaker 1: days before free agency, which means it's mark twelve. Free
Speaker 1: agency officially opened March fourteen, which means you can put
Speaker 1: pen to paper there, and then three days after that,
Speaker 1: like you said, he that the Jets trade with the
Speaker 1: Colts and goes six to three, not knowing who's gonna
Speaker 1: be there at three, and Sam Donald falls to three
Speaker 1: Jets pick them up in April. So when you look
Speaker 1: at the job like you said that, like the Cagan,
Speaker 1: Brian Heimerdinger in the front office, if done, I I
Speaker 1: agree with you, very impressive. Conceivably, I wonder what you
Speaker 1: could get if you ever shipped the pair of threes.
Speaker 1: I know what people are thinking out there. They're thinking
Speaker 1: about the big fish, and that's what a lot of
Speaker 1: the external media is talking about with that being said,
Speaker 1: all I would say is Cleil mac is under contract
Speaker 1: with the Oakland Raiders. A lot of people anticipate Greens
Speaker 1: that he will come to the Raiders when the regular
Speaker 1: season commences next week. Because you only get paid in
Speaker 1: the regular season, and these scheduled getting more than eleven
Speaker 1: million dollars this year, which means if you divide that
Speaker 1: up amongst sixteen regular season weeks, that's a big paycheck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is a big paycheck. He's I mean also Khalil
Speaker 1: Mcin Aaron Donalds, who's holding out the Rams. The more
Speaker 1: you hold out, the more find you get during training camp,
Speaker 1: So they're actually paying to hold out. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's just so I would say this, and I don't
Speaker 1: know this because we're not having these conversations with Mike mcagnor. Uh.
Speaker 1: The guy's going about his business. Um. But I don't
Speaker 1: think you make this deal just thinking about one deal specifically.
Speaker 1: I think you make this deal thinking about short term,
Speaker 1: long term, short term. You like the two quarterbacks who
Speaker 1: have in house, and I think they liked Ted Bridgewater too.
Speaker 1: But with that being said, at having three good quarterbacks
Speaker 1: is a luxury, and the Saints said, we see a
Speaker 1: good quarterback on your rosters five years old. We'd love
Speaker 1: to have them. But in turn, you've got to give
Speaker 1: up something so the Jets get the third round value
Speaker 1: there um. So you know, I think with your the Jets,
Speaker 1: you can do a lot with the third round pick,
Speaker 1: especially when you don't have a second round pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just for them, for instance, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't have the draft chart in front of me, that
Speaker 1: old chart that everybody refers to him goes back two threes.
Speaker 1: It gets you low too. He definitely gets you low too.
Speaker 1: I mean. The other thing is about the Saints is
Speaker 1: that you would assume that wherever that pick is is
Speaker 1: not going to be, it's gonna be closer in the
Speaker 1: fourth round than it's gonna be towards the front of
Speaker 1: the third round. Because you mentioned the Saints and how
Speaker 1: it's an interesting destination. Maybe the Saints are looking at
Speaker 1: the successor to Drew Brees potential. And the other thing
Speaker 1: is that if you're the Saints, a one year deal
Speaker 1: right to well, I think it's a two year deal
Speaker 1: or one in an option. But the thing is that
Speaker 1: someone made this point I thought it was interesting, is
Speaker 1: if you're the Saints, and you think that you're a
Speaker 1: legitimate contender, and you saw what happened to the Eagles
Speaker 1: last year when Carson Wentz went down. You have to
Speaker 1: make sure you have an insurance plan just in case. Listen,
Speaker 1: the Saints are for sure legitimate contender. I told you
Speaker 1: last year that I thought they would have won Super Bowl. Huh.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I don't make that tackle against the Vikings.
Speaker 1: But if you're a Jets fan, yes you have interest
Speaker 1: now to root for Teddy Bridgewater. But hopefully the Saints
Speaker 1: don't do as well. Yeah, no doubt what. We should
Speaker 1: put a ball on Bridgewater. Ah. He is a good person.
Speaker 1: He was well liked inside the locker room. We weren't
Speaker 1: there in Minnesota when he suffered the devastating in injury,
Speaker 1: but by all accounts, that was horrific. He has been
Speaker 1: on an unbelievable climb the past two seasons. What we
Speaker 1: saw from him in the spring and the summer was
Speaker 1: more than just a competent quarterback. Was a guy who
Speaker 1: can and will be a starter in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: And you just gotta love his approach because when he
Speaker 1: got hurt, he never said why me? He said a
Speaker 1: lot of people had worse off than me, are dealing
Speaker 1: with far worse problems than me, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people did not believe in Teddy Bridgewater. He never stopped believing,
Speaker 1: and he earned a tremendous amount of respect inside this
Speaker 1: locker room and from this fan base, and me as
Speaker 1: a guy who had the fortune to go down to
Speaker 1: Miami with one of our producers, Chris hobbins Um, and
Speaker 1: see where Teddy's from Miami and how many odds he's
Speaker 1: already overcome always be rooting for him. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I think if you interacted with Teddy, you're been around Teddy.
Speaker 1: I thank you root for Teddy Personally, I'm rooting for Teddy.
Speaker 1: We'll see how he does in New Orleans or you know,
Speaker 1: wherever his next stop. Maybe he will miss his media availabilities.
Speaker 1: But for fans at home, most media availabilities start with
Speaker 1: oh you like the opening state and possibly a pr
Speaker 1: assistant saying questions please, does anybody have questions? No one ounced.
Speaker 1: Teddy would always come in and give you somemation on
Speaker 1: what's going on with the team, that what occurred at practice,
Speaker 1: and it was coach like because he'd hit it to
Speaker 1: a t. He tells you we got we got into
Speaker 1: some good red zone work today. We had too many
Speaker 1: penalties here. We ran some gasters at practice, but it
Speaker 1: was great conditioning. He was always a guy who embraced
Speaker 1: every day, each rep, every opportunity. I'm gonna us the
Speaker 1: dancing on the sideline and yeah, he's big Michael Jackson guy.
Speaker 1: But regardless, he won't be there for Jets Eagles, and
Speaker 1: I think there was multiple times where Michael Jackson was
Speaker 1: on and he was he was on alright. So Thursday
Speaker 1: night Jets Eagles preseason finale, Teddy Bridgewater will not be
Speaker 1: there obviously, which means that the quarterback rotation will be
Speaker 1: some form of Sam Donald, Josh McCown and John Walford.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that plays out. What I want to
Speaker 1: know is not so much about the quarterbacks c A,
Speaker 1: but about the other Let me see, there's three seven
Speaker 1: as some quick math in my head, there the other
Speaker 1: eighties seven guys on the field. Because Coach Bowles talked
Speaker 1: about it, there's like five or six spots up for
Speaker 1: grabs right now, and this is the final time that
Speaker 1: a lot of these players will be on the field.
Speaker 1: And e A and I caught up with Dan Brazza
Speaker 1: last week. He's the pre and postgame voice for the
Speaker 1: Jets on ESPN, and we broke down the roster. So
Speaker 1: we'll we'll toss that the minute here, But I want
Speaker 1: to talk about now in the present, who you're I
Speaker 1: know that you have a lot of guys that you
Speaker 1: have your eyes on, but who are you most excited
Speaker 1: to see how they performed on Thursday night? And you
Speaker 1: told me earlier he had a big prediction. It was
Speaker 1: about twenty five guys. So I can't pinpoint it right.
Speaker 1: You said, you said if I well, was it if
Speaker 1: I start swinging, I'm hitting or something like for me?
Speaker 1: For me, it's all about positional groups. And you looked
Speaker 1: down on the roster a number of players and what's
Speaker 1: gonna end up happening? And I'm like a Trey McBride
Speaker 1: who was featured in one Jet Strive and his push
Speaker 1: for the team. Or at the receiver position. Um further,
Speaker 1: at the receiver position, what are the Jets gonna do
Speaker 1: a returner? Is Andre Roberts the veteran? Will he be
Speaker 1: on this roster come Saturay? How about the outside linebacker position?
Speaker 1: Beyond the Jordan Jenkins and the Josh Martin's of the world.
Speaker 1: Frankie Louvill and Brandon Copland have gotten a lot of
Speaker 1: ps there. But who got his first sac against the
Speaker 1: guess he did? And then you think about a former
Speaker 1: draft picks Dolan Donahue, Lorenzo Molden. What do they have
Speaker 1: to show for themselves coming out here Thursday night? The
Speaker 1: safety position and we'll get into this with Graza and
Speaker 1: we did the cornerback position, and I think there's a
Speaker 1: great battle down there Derek Bones, Jones and company. Justin
Speaker 1: Burr's is a former draft pick who uh you know?
Speaker 1: For him, I think he will have to do a
Speaker 1: couple of things out here. And even if these guys
Speaker 1: don't make the roster, you really auditioning for thirty one
Speaker 1: other teams. Um, you know, offensive line depths comes into
Speaker 1: focus and we talk about that all the time. But yeah,
Speaker 1: big prediction Trent and Cannon Cannon boom, Cannon shot, Henry
Speaker 1: yards rushing and the preseason final game against the defending
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Philadelphia goes much of those Super Bowl
Speaker 1: champs won't probably be on the field, but Cannon will
Speaker 1: have a nice to Oh yeah, I have to bring
Speaker 1: this up because we said that you said this earlier
Speaker 1: and when we recorded the pot initially. E A has
Speaker 1: not added cheese steaks since two thousand two, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't put cheese on the cheese steaks. That is correct, blasphemy.
Speaker 1: So you get onions and peppers in a suck. I'm
Speaker 1: not a big cheese guy. I like pizza, but I'm
Speaker 1: not a big cheese guy. So yeah, if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get a cheese steak, I'll get it, you know, with
Speaker 1: the peppers and some onions and just in the butt
Speaker 1: in the sub. You only eat half of the summer,
Speaker 1: you eat the whole sub. Eat it. Well. Some people
Speaker 1: like some people like to make you know, sandwiches like
Speaker 1: convertible as they rip off the top half of the bread.
Speaker 1: So they're not eating the carbs. No, No, I don't
Speaker 1: do that, like in AFT. A couple of carbs here
Speaker 1: and there. That's fine. If you're gonna have one of
Speaker 1: those cheese steaks, you're not gonna have it. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have it without cheese. But well you're
Speaker 1: not gonna go to gym, Yeah, but you can order
Speaker 1: one at gym's or pats or or or Randy Lang
Speaker 1: who who's uh one of our esteemed writers on New
Speaker 1: York Jets dot com. He's his favorite. It's bibles listen,
Speaker 1: which I am trying tomorrow for the record, I wonder
Speaker 1: if they let you do that down there is the
Speaker 1: order one without a bun. I bet you they wouldn't.
Speaker 1: You can have No, I didn't meet without a bun.
Speaker 1: I meant like, you only eat like half of the breadth. No, No,
Speaker 1: I neat the whole thing. But I haven't gone. So
Speaker 1: you're going on early tomorrow on Thursday, so you can
Speaker 1: get yourself a cheese steak. Apparently that's the deal. Apparently
Speaker 1: who's who are you going with? The goons? The goonies?
Speaker 1: Who's that social media for? Yeah? Yeah, they're always looking
Speaker 1: for their next meal, aren't they? Yeah? Thanks? So yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well you gave a big prediction. I'll give
Speaker 1: my big prediction, fearless prediction. Chad Hansen one bill over
Speaker 1: a bill receiving yards. Yeah, and before we get to garage,
Speaker 1: I want to tell you. I want to ask you
Speaker 1: a question. I want to see if you've been reading
Speaker 1: my articles in New York Just dot com, who is
Speaker 1: leading the New York Jets in tackles this preseason in tackles. Well, uh,
Speaker 1: that's correct. Yeah, that is Hewett. And watch forty six
Speaker 1: because he's all over the field. He'll get some snaps
Speaker 1: if I enjoyed watching him and read about him in
Speaker 1: New York just dot com. Because I didn't know this,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I knew Miami played a four three,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know he was an outside linebacker and
Speaker 1: at four three, But that makes sense, he's a transition
Speaker 1: to three or four inside linebacker. I like him twenty
Speaker 1: five years old. I think he'd provide some nice step
Speaker 1: I like them too. I'm pretty sure he's a thundering hurt.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Yeah? You know who else?
Speaker 1: Was it? Thunder? That's right, friend of the pot, All right?
Speaker 1: Before we tossed to Dan rather here, I just want
Speaker 1: to say that echo what you said. If I had
Speaker 1: to focus on one position for me, would be the
Speaker 1: receivers because I met Enhanson, you mentioned McBride. Are Darius Stewart,
Speaker 1: the third round pick from last year. He's suspended the
Speaker 1: first two games, so this is your last taste of
Speaker 1: him before potentially making the team Week three. If you
Speaker 1: don't know. When the Jets go from ninety fifty three,
Speaker 1: suspended players do not count towards that fifty three. So
Speaker 1: we're looking at our Darius Stewart, Um, Richard Robinson, Kevin
Speaker 1: Pierre Lewis I believe are the three guys. So those
Speaker 1: guys will not count in KPL. Very quiet summer in
Speaker 1: practice at all, I am playing. So what happened? But
Speaker 1: regardless Jets Eagles seven PM preseason finale. But for now,
Speaker 1: breakdown with Dan Graza. Alright, Dan, now comes the fun
Speaker 1: part this roster. Later this week, it's gonna go from
Speaker 1: ninety players to fifty three. There's no seventy five anymore.
Speaker 1: It used to be seventy five, seventy five to fifty three.
Speaker 1: Now it's straight nine fifty three, which means almost half
Speaker 1: of this team will not be in green and white
Speaker 1: come September two. All right, let's start with the qubs here,
Speaker 1: specifically in Sam Donald. Did you expect so much from
Speaker 1: this guy this early? I gotta be honest. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you're optimistic, and clearly when you trade up like they
Speaker 1: did too three, whichever guy you were going to select,
Speaker 1: you got high expectations from gonna be a talented quarterback,
Speaker 1: but not even so much the physical. I think what's
Speaker 1: impressed me and maybe exceeded the expectations that I had
Speaker 1: for him going in is what you've already understood about
Speaker 1: him from a mental side of things. Jeremy Bates. You
Speaker 1: mentioned he's spoken glowingly about everything we've thrown at. This guy.
Speaker 1: He's absorbed and it's beyond impressive. Right. He missed the
Speaker 1: first three days of training camp because of the contract.
Speaker 1: Told that he came in here and what did he do?
Speaker 1: He was already spitting out plays that they worked on
Speaker 1: during the mini camp, So that recall that memory. That's
Speaker 1: important because you guys know this. You're a quarterback as
Speaker 1: opposed to just being a wide receiver and knowing what
Speaker 1: your route is supposed to be. You're a quarterback. You
Speaker 1: have to know what every guy in your offense on
Speaker 1: the field is supposed to be doing in each and
Speaker 1: every play. And if that isn't too much for him
Speaker 1: at this stage of his career, then you know what,
Speaker 1: it's only gonna get better moving forward. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: to the running backs now. Isaiah Crow, Allen balal Pal
Speaker 1: both solid camps now, do you carry another back outside
Speaker 1: of Trenton Cannon because Eli McGuire's out there, or do
Speaker 1: you think that the numbers elsewhere are a little too heavy.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be more contingent upon some of
Speaker 1: those other positions and what you do, uh to make
Speaker 1: it a numbers game necessarily. You know, Thomas Rawls is
Speaker 1: a guy. The opportunity to talk to him for our
Speaker 1: pregame show for the Giant game and it was a
Speaker 1: great guy. You know, great guy. And remember this is
Speaker 1: a guy who had some moments with the Seattle Seahawks,
Speaker 1: remember the playoff game against the Lions a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. I mean, he he was outstanding. So this
Speaker 1: is a quality, capable NFL back. And I think as
Speaker 1: you said that, you know, with Eli mc wired down,
Speaker 1: that presents an opportunity for somebody else to get some place.
Speaker 1: You know Cannon, everybody's excited by what he can do
Speaker 1: and he brings a dimension to the game. Does he
Speaker 1: become your third down guy? Like is he your change
Speaker 1: the pace type back or are you gonna keep Rolls
Speaker 1: in there? Maybe who's not as shifty, but he's a
Speaker 1: guy you could still give the rock to and have
Speaker 1: him grind out some tough yards for you. So I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be more dependent on what they decided
Speaker 1: to do with some of these other positions, like something
Speaker 1: we hit on last week with the tight ends. You've
Speaker 1: got a lot of guys there. How many are you
Speaker 1: gonna keep? It's gonna be linked to special teams too,
Speaker 1: because are you comfortable with Trenton Cannon handling your kickoff
Speaker 1: returns which is something he did at Virginia State and
Speaker 1: did it very well. And punt returns He put a
Speaker 1: couple on the ground in that first preseason game. If
Speaker 1: you are comfortable with that, obviously takes away a rosters
Speaker 1: or freaks up a roster spot, excuse me, somewhere else.
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be the interesting part of the mix.
Speaker 1: The other thing I would say about the backs is
Speaker 1: at fullback, a lot of people were ta talking about
Speaker 1: Dmitri Flowers from Oklahoma. He signed on restricted free agent.
Speaker 1: I think Lawrence Thomas has had a nice camp guy.
Speaker 1: He's big, he's a powerful blocker, and he's got good
Speaker 1: hands for being a former defensive alignment himself used to
Speaker 1: block for Levan Bell at Michigan State. I think LT
Speaker 1: has had a nice camp and it's went under the radar.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. And lt for being his size,
Speaker 1: he has some hands and he has some shifting. This
Speaker 1: to him for being almost three hundred pounds Stump Mitchell
Speaker 1: said that Lawrence Thomas played at three hundred pounds last
Speaker 1: season and he and they were fine with that. But
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned cannon and the puns because if
Speaker 1: you're not comfortable with Canada returning puns, he would almost
Speaker 1: assume that Andre Roberts might be that guy. And throughout
Speaker 1: the preseason, throughout training camp, he's been the number one
Speaker 1: punk returner, which leads to the receivers. Now that's a
Speaker 1: crowded room. That's a room that has a suspension in
Speaker 1: our Darius Stewart to start off the year. All I
Speaker 1: think that receiver is gonna be a very difficult decision
Speaker 1: when you factor in the play off, Trey McBride and
Speaker 1: the fact that Chad Hanson was a fourth round pick
Speaker 1: last year and a nice camp by the way, Yes,
Speaker 1: and then you talked about special teams, Well, Andrey Roberts
Speaker 1: seems to be the guy at that. Well, Lucky White,
Speaker 1: I thought they had a lot of pop in the
Speaker 1: return game. But you're right, Greens, it's a loaded room
Speaker 1: because you think about up top, you got your main
Speaker 1: Curse and Robbie Anderson. You can pencil those guys and
Speaker 1: Quincy and Noona Torrell prior, those guys limited early in
Speaker 1: camp and then they started to increase their workload as
Speaker 1: we've gone on here. But you've always thought of Dan,
Speaker 1: I've always started the receiver position as those four. And
Speaker 1: then then where do we start? Well, I think it
Speaker 1: goes back to what you brought up a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes ago with special teams and and not even so
Speaker 1: much in the return game, but in coverage, because if
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep a wide receiver and even a running
Speaker 1: back for that matter, if they're not necessarily your return guy,
Speaker 1: well can they play teams? Are they gonna be on
Speaker 1: your coverage squad? Because you're not gonna use one of
Speaker 1: those precious spots for game day to dress a player
Speaker 1: at let's say a position like that. If you know
Speaker 1: who are on the bottom part of that depth chart,
Speaker 1: if they're not going to play teams as well, because
Speaker 1: you want to have them to be able to, you know,
Speaker 1: serve a multifaceted role. There. So that's gonna be interesting,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, the fullbacks you mentioned, you know
Speaker 1: one of those, you know, the third string running back
Speaker 1: if you will, and then that that maybe fifth receiver.
Speaker 1: If they could play special teams, that's only gonna enhance
Speaker 1: their chances of suiting up on Sundays. And we always
Speaker 1: forget to talk about Ron Peak. He a touchdown catch,
Speaker 1: that's the Redskins, and he is also a valuable special
Speaker 1: teams performer. Peak doesn't make the roster here. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be playing for somebody Week one in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: Peak was on I R for the majority of last season,
Speaker 1: his sophomore season. And now, Dan, we gotta turn to
Speaker 1: your favorite position. You alluded to it last week in
Speaker 1: the tight ends. Now we're back with more tight because,
Speaker 1: like you said, there's a lot of them, and head
Speaker 1: coach Todd Ball said, this is gonna be the most
Speaker 1: difficult position to evaluate. I'm excited. Was excited immediately when
Speaker 1: they drafted Chris Herndon. Okay, he's a guy whose college career,
Speaker 1: maybe the numbers didn't stack up to what you thought
Speaker 1: because he was hampered by injury. So you maybe get
Speaker 1: a diamond in the rough there that you end up
Speaker 1: with in the mid rounds. Talent wise, if he was healthy,
Speaker 1: he probably would have went a little bit sooner. He
Speaker 1: excites me, Legged, and that to me was one of
Speaker 1: the disappointments of last year. You know, Legged, I was
Speaker 1: really as excited as I am about Herndon. I was
Speaker 1: almost as excited about Legged a year ago. This guy
Speaker 1: who played him big time games at Clemson, but his
Speaker 1: rookie season was watched away last year because of injury,
Speaker 1: and the coaches were high on him all right. So
Speaker 1: if you could keep those two guys healthy, that's a
Speaker 1: heck of a foundation. Then those other wild cards, whether
Speaker 1: it's Tomlinson and whether it's Sterling Wolford. You know, these
Speaker 1: are guys who have already been through the wars in
Speaker 1: the NFL. They have experience. They're not flashy type players,
Speaker 1: but they play a role for you. And I'm not
Speaker 1: afraid to get a little dirty there and mix it
Speaker 1: up there in the trenches, which nowadays you can still
Speaker 1: use the tight end. I know it's old school, but
Speaker 1: sometimes those tight ends blocking in there, they still serve
Speaker 1: a purpose. A couple of points here, Tomlinson is the
Speaker 1: best blocker of the bunch you mentioned it before, Herndon
Speaker 1: has is shown to be explosive out of breaks. The
Speaker 1: smooth route runner Leg is the guy who you might
Speaker 1: make in her argument, even though he hasn't had a
Speaker 1: lot of game action other than a couple of preseason games,
Speaker 1: that he might have the best hands of them all.
Speaker 1: He just gotta stay healthy. Clive Walford is really taken
Speaker 1: off um too. And then Nate sternly underrated athlete in
Speaker 1: his own right. He can get down the field. So
Speaker 1: they liked this group. And finally, Sam Donald like throwing
Speaker 1: to the tight ends. He uses the tight ends for
Speaker 1: anybody to watch the practice that you can watch usc
Speaker 1: you watch practice, it's some of the games. Listen, this
Speaker 1: guy is gonna throw to the big guys early and off,
Speaker 1: and he likes those matchups. Tight end is, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: especially in those short to intermediate routes that could serve
Speaker 1: as a great security blanket for a quarterback. And as
Speaker 1: he said, I mean, Sam Donald, we've already seen it
Speaker 1: so far here in camping in preseason. He's not afraid
Speaker 1: to go to them. And I know that the tight
Speaker 1: end is almost becoming at least the way traditionally the
Speaker 1: tight end position was. It's almost becoming fossilized in the
Speaker 1: NFL now. But you know, because these these tight ends
Speaker 1: are just such freakish athletes. They're like former basketball players,
Speaker 1: most of them. They can just get up and down
Speaker 1: the field, work the scenes and stuff. But I like
Speaker 1: this group, and I think there's some wild cards. Would
Speaker 1: it surprise either of you if the Jets kept four
Speaker 1: tight ends? No, it would me. Four four four to
Speaker 1: me is a little bit only because I'm not convinced
Speaker 1: that a couple of those guys that we discussed might
Speaker 1: be best suited for special teams. And that's something that
Speaker 1: they would, I think have to do. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're keeping four tight ends, they're playing teams at least
Speaker 1: a couple of them. All Right, So I guess we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens come September one. I didn't say it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, right, I'm just saying, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: I will tell So now we gotta go to the
Speaker 1: big Uglies a lie and assuming everything's okay on the
Speaker 1: health front, Calvin Beacham, James Carpenter, Spencer Long, Brian Winters,
Speaker 1: Brandon Shell, those are your five right there. Now, behind
Speaker 1: those guys, what happens because this is a group where
Speaker 1: where I don't know about you dead or U E A.
Speaker 1: But when I watch in a game, I can't really
Speaker 1: tell you that guy is having a good game, that
Speaker 1: guy is having a good game because I'm not down
Speaker 1: there understanding everyone's blocks. Depth is a concern, right, I
Speaker 1: think the depth is a question. I like Spencer Long.
Speaker 1: I think that's an upgrade at the center position. That
Speaker 1: and one guy especially is center. I mean it's cliche,
Speaker 1: but that could be the glue to hold the line together.
Speaker 1: And I think that he'll be invaluable for this team.
Speaker 1: Case in point, if you are also going with a
Speaker 1: young quarterback, it's going to be incumbent upon the offensive
Speaker 1: line to make his life as manageable as possible as
Speaker 1: he's still learning the ropes. And I know that a
Speaker 1: lot of the so called experts want to say, well,
Speaker 1: you couldn't start Sam Donald week one because you have,
Speaker 1: you know, an offensive line which isn't considered upper echelon
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I don't buy that for a second.
Speaker 1: I actually think this group, this is the big if
Speaker 1: if they stay healthy, it's gonna be a lot better
Speaker 1: than people given credit for and better then they've shown
Speaker 1: maybe thus far in the preseason because they haven't been
Speaker 1: together much in the preseason because of various things. And
Speaker 1: you know, losing Egellana was big just because he served
Speaker 1: that purposes, that swing tackle. There in the backup. You
Speaker 1: have a couple of other guys, but I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so rare that you're gonna go throughout the entire six
Speaker 1: team games which just the same five guys playing. You're
Speaker 1: gonna need that depth. But remember, just because they're not
Speaker 1: on the roster now to con be on somebody else's roster,
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be cuts happening thirty one other teams
Speaker 1: that maybe you find a valuable guy, maybe because a
Speaker 1: cap reasons he gets cut, boom, maybe they pounced on him.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Jets is the only team in
Speaker 1: the National Football League who would like to increase their
Speaker 1: death doubt across that offensive line. And to the point here,
Speaker 1: I think much was made what happened and Washington because
Speaker 1: Jonathan Harrison, who was in for Brian Winters, got beat
Speaker 1: on the and then yes, and then got beat on
Speaker 1: a sack as well, and he was filling in for
Speaker 1: Calvin Beacham. I think bottom line is those five could
Speaker 1: be a solid group. Um, they gotta stay together. You
Speaker 1: mentioned you're talking about depth. The guy who jumps out
Speaker 1: at me throughout training camp, who is likely to stay
Speaker 1: at this point in time, You'd have to say Jonathan
Speaker 1: Harrison because they were using him as a second team center,
Speaker 1: and then when Winners did go down during the preseason,
Speaker 1: they gave him an opportunity to play at right guard.
Speaker 1: I know he gave the sack, gave up the sack quality.
Speaker 1: He's a guy who comes into focus for this team
Speaker 1: right now because, like Dan mentioned, but Gelana is not there.
Speaker 1: He was the valuable swing tackle. Now quality, he's probably
Speaker 1: first up at both left and right tackle. Uh dacoted Osier.
Speaker 1: I think the duped on the inside. It's probably a
Speaker 1: little bit better right now where the where the Jets stand.
Speaker 1: But again, what's gonna happen over the next week, because
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna have a final fifty three that
Speaker 1: isn't final at all, because they're gonna see what else
Speaker 1: is out there. And I wouldn't be we're talking about surprises,
Speaker 1: would not be surprised at all. If they had another one.
Speaker 1: It's true for all NFL teams. You're fifty three man
Speaker 1: roster is always subject to change on any given day,
Speaker 1: any even moment. Something that Bowls talked about is position
Speaker 1: flex and maybe some of the guys that can play
Speaker 1: tackle and guard will have a little more value than
Speaker 1: someone that is just a guard or just a tackle.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. I wonder what's gonna happen with
Speaker 1: a guy like Travis Swanson because he's been he's been predominantly,
Speaker 1: he's been the third team center. Now he's a guy
Speaker 1: who's got starting experience, whipped the Lions came over in
Speaker 1: the off season, things like heard much about him. Isn't
Speaker 1: it funny to think about this was a guy they
Speaker 1: signed Spencer Long and then they signed Travis Swansons Like,
Speaker 1: wait a secondy just signed the center. But as you said,
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's had starting experience before in
Speaker 1: the league. And they talked about position flex too. But
Speaker 1: most of the time when we've been seeing him out
Speaker 1: there has been but he he has played some guard
Speaker 1: in his career before. So now let's shift to the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Will start up front again,
Speaker 1: just because we were all line. Now let's go d line.
Speaker 1: This is a different line that I think Jets fans
Speaker 1: are used to seeing it down there. However, the big
Speaker 1: cat is still down there. Lennon Williams. Steve McClendon really
Speaker 1: hasn't practiced for the majority of trading camp, but he's
Speaker 1: the he's one of the guys that's to glue with
Speaker 1: a lock and he's one of the leaders on this team.
Speaker 1: So what do you make of this group that got
Speaker 1: three players on draft Day? Two of them Nate Shepard
Speaker 1: and fall Arounzo Phadukasi draft picks and then Nate Excuse me,
Speaker 1: Henry Anderson was a seventh round trade and he's someone
Speaker 1: that he's got some first team reps out there. Great
Speaker 1: story Henry Anderson too. I interviewed him for our pregame
Speaker 1: show for the Giants, and you know, and I even
Speaker 1: asked him about it too. But you think about the
Speaker 1: big story and all the coverage with the team of
Speaker 1: a guy coming back from a serious injury was Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater and everything he went through. Henry Anderson, I mean,
Speaker 1: what he went through with the Colts last year. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest. None of us are signing up for that.
Speaker 1: He had a fractured larynx for crying out loud in
Speaker 1: his throat. That's that. That's painful. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: want any part of that. Yeah, just real quick. How
Speaker 1: did that happen? I don't know, but you think when
Speaker 1: he got hurt, he was able to tell someone that
Speaker 1: he was hurt if you injure your throatbox, like you
Speaker 1: think he just had to like point to his neck
Speaker 1: and like make a bunch of no, like no, no,
Speaker 1: no sign. It's not a pleasurable experience, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: But you know, and so he was able to work
Speaker 1: his way back from that. And you know, he was
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis when they changed coaches there at the end
Speaker 1: of the season and they went to a four three defense.
Speaker 1: So he trimmed down a little bit, thinking he have
Speaker 1: to play a little quicker when you're playing in a
Speaker 1: four man front. Then he gets traded here and then
Speaker 1: he's like, what it's like now I'm going into a
Speaker 1: thirty four where your defensive woman needs to be a
Speaker 1: little bit bigger, you know, gap integrity, that sort of
Speaker 1: thing taken on a couple of blockers. So he put
Speaker 1: on I think it was like twenty or twenty five pounds.
Speaker 1: It wasn't you know. We even joked about it when
Speaker 1: I interviewed him. It wasn't all just like McDonald's and
Speaker 1: pizza and all that stuff. It was you know, he
Speaker 1: did it the right way and made sure that that
Speaker 1: was a priority. So you give him credit there, and
Speaker 1: you know that's the type of guy that you want
Speaker 1: to see succeed. I'll also say this, and you guys
Speaker 1: may agree with me. If this defense is going to
Speaker 1: be special this year and if they're gonna rek havioc,
Speaker 1: I don't think that happens unless Leonard Williams has a
Speaker 1: very disruptive season on that defensive line. You think I
Speaker 1: can't put it all on Leo. I'm gonna actually look
Speaker 1: at the linebackers. There's a little preview for you. When
Speaker 1: I look at the defensive line, I say, listen, your
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, you're looking at the Jets defense line. Who
Speaker 1: are you focusing on? To me, what's the development development
Speaker 1: of ninety seven Nathan Shepard? How early can he contribute six?
Speaker 1: Like you talked about, Henry Anderson's got some starting experience
Speaker 1: in the league. What is he going to give you?
Speaker 1: And then finally, Big Steve McClendon, who was a dependable
Speaker 1: run stuffer for this team, was out a lot during
Speaker 1: training camp. Are the Jets going to have to depend
Speaker 1: on Mike Panel in that position? So, and you mentioned Fatakasi,
Speaker 1: I would imagine he becomes part of that rotation. But
Speaker 1: for Leonard, yes, he's got to do some certain things
Speaker 1: to take the next step, but he needs some help
Speaker 1: up there too. And this is a line that is
Speaker 1: in major transition. I think that has been kind of
Speaker 1: lost in translation here where we're talking about. Okay, Sheldon
Speaker 1: Richardson has gone, uh, David snax Harrison has been gone
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, Mohammed Wokers is now in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, and things like that. This line, this is
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts right now. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: there isn't a lot of time, there isn't talent there.
Speaker 1: There is talent there, but there are moving parts. And
Speaker 1: when I say disruptive for Leonard, I mean that came
Speaker 1: out of his mouth too. He even admitted that. You know,
Speaker 1: he said he wore down last year. That's a great point.
Speaker 1: Looked in the mirror, said I gotta, I gotta, I
Speaker 1: gotta stay law pad level is coming up late in
Speaker 1: the game, absolutely, and we know I remember right at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season last year, I think it
Speaker 1: was late and can't remember he nicked up his risk
Speaker 1: week two of the preseason and in the Motor City.
Speaker 1: In the Motor City, So think about that, Right, you're
Speaker 1: a defensive linemen. You play with your hands. If your
Speaker 1: wrist are in a percent, that's gonna give you an
Speaker 1: issue there first and foremost. And naturally, when you're playing
Speaker 1: in the three man front, your guys more often than
Speaker 1: not aren't going to have those outrageous sack numbers. Is
Speaker 1: maybe you have when you're playing in the forty three.
Speaker 1: And I'm not just measuring his success based on those
Speaker 1: sack totals. Obviously you'd like to see a little bit
Speaker 1: more than what he ended up with a year ago.
Speaker 1: But I do agree with what you said. It is
Speaker 1: going to be incumbent upon those other guys, because if
Speaker 1: those other guys are taking up more of the priority
Speaker 1: from the offensive line, it's gonna allow guys like Leo
Speaker 1: to make plays some of those linebackers as well. But
Speaker 1: being disruptive certainly is going to set a nice tone.
Speaker 1: Great point. Let's talk about the let let's talk about
Speaker 1: these guys now, the middle linebackers, the outside linebackers. Darrenly
Speaker 1: said he's the best shape of his life. Todd Bowlds
Speaker 1: is expecting big things from this guy. He's now one
Speaker 1: of the play callers on this defense, a role that
Speaker 1: he did. He served a little bit last year, but
Speaker 1: now he's the main guy. Avery Williamson signed in the offseason.
Speaker 1: Tackling machine, that's what he's been called. What how How
Speaker 1: are these guys gonna Jael? That's another big question. What
Speaker 1: do you make of the inside guys? Then we'll get
Speaker 1: out to the outside guys and behind them. And one
Speaker 1: of the stars of the preseason was Nevill Hewittt And
Speaker 1: with Kevin Pierre Lewis suspended for the first week of
Speaker 1: the season, could Neville he would be on this team
Speaker 1: come week one. I think it's fascinating what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: in the inside linebacker position. He's another guy like Dan
Speaker 1: was talking about, Hey, listen, Leo has gotta be disruptive.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would say Darren Lee's
Speaker 1: gotta be disruptive at the inside linebacker position. The other
Speaker 1: thing is Tomorrow Davis said a great year last year.
Speaker 1: Now you would consider him, uh good linebacker, not a
Speaker 1: great linebacker, but he had a very good year last year.
Speaker 1: Enter Avery Williamson. What is he going to give you
Speaker 1: in his first year? And how are those two guys
Speaker 1: going to work together? Darrenly is working with a new
Speaker 1: guy for a third consecutive season. It was David Harris
Speaker 1: that it was Demario. Now, enter Avery Williams. For the
Speaker 1: Jets to take the next step defensively, they have to
Speaker 1: be better against the run. We'll talk about the secondary
Speaker 1: here in a moment, but for the Jets to be
Speaker 1: a top half, top ten defense, they gotta be better
Speaker 1: against the run. They were middle of the pack last year.
Speaker 1: Well on that note, and jeez, I agree with you
Speaker 1: a million percent here. One of the other options that
Speaker 1: you have defensively too, If you want a zero one
Speaker 1: on a run defense, you bring another guy into the box,
Speaker 1: which then, of course, in the past, would leave you
Speaker 1: vulnerable in past past defense. But you got your main
Speaker 1: Johnson and got another lockdown back there. Maybe that sorts
Speaker 1: itself out a little bit. You began asking the question,
Speaker 1: how will those two inside linebackers, Jail, I'll ask another
Speaker 1: one when do they jail? How long does it take
Speaker 1: them to jail? Because spotlight is on them. You're a
Speaker 1: thousand percent right, Avery Williamson. Is he gonna be a
Speaker 1: three down linebacker with this team? That was one of
Speaker 1: the questions when they signed, right, is this the guy
Speaker 1: who's gonna be on the field all three downs? Is
Speaker 1: he going to be vulnerable in pass coverage? Which we
Speaker 1: love our guy to Mario, Okay, we loved our guy,
Speaker 1: David Harris, right, but other teams knew, especially when you
Speaker 1: have those backs out of the backfield, use zero in
Speaker 1: on them and try to get him in coverage because
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a vulnerability there. Darren Lee.
Speaker 1: And he's got to have a huge year. We know it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot on his plate. Now it's year number three,
Speaker 1: your first round pick. I still want to see a
Speaker 1: guy that needs to convince me that his best position
Speaker 1: is playing on the inside. If you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He's a speedy linebacker. You thought that when they drafted him,
Speaker 1: he would be a guy coming off the outside providing
Speaker 1: some of that pass rush. Is he gonna kind of
Speaker 1: get lost among the giants a little bit playing on
Speaker 1: the inside. That's what I'm looking to see here that
Speaker 1: that's not gonna change. Todd is always in division and
Speaker 1: playing inside, so that's gonna be where he's at. Performance
Speaker 1: has to step up, then, I think from what you
Speaker 1: said about when these two guys will jel, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the answer to that, but I think
Speaker 1: what helps is the fact that they're close in age
Speaker 1: and they talked about it. They hang out outside the complex,
Speaker 1: are very close outside the complex, whereas Darrelly and Dave
Speaker 1: Harris and Lee and to Mario Davis didn't really hang
Speaker 1: out home, and those guys were exactly So now let's
Speaker 1: we were in the inside, let's go to the outside. Now,
Speaker 1: last year is Jordan Jenkins and Josh Martin for the
Speaker 1: majority of the season, assuming those guys are on the roster,
Speaker 1: who are the guys behind those guys now, because for
Speaker 1: the majority of camp, Brandon Copeland who was signed in
Speaker 1: the off season, and Frankie Luvu ran with the second team.
Speaker 1: So will I think it's very interesting, Well, the Jets
Speaker 1: put their stock and someone like Frankie Luvu who's an
Speaker 1: undrafted guy, where as last year David Bass and Obum
Speaker 1: watch them too. Other guys on the bubble. We're on
Speaker 1: this team last year and David Bass had two sacks
Speaker 1: in the first two weeks here, right, Well, Frankie Louvu,
Speaker 1: for one thing, you're not gonna see the field a
Speaker 1: lot if you're gonna make the bone headed mistakes with
Speaker 1: the penalties like that that coaches won't tolerate that. But unfortunately, fortunately, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: however you want to describe it. We're sitting here now
Speaker 1: almost at the end of the preseason, and it's still
Speaker 1: kind of the same conversation that we had at the
Speaker 1: beginning of there's playing time to be had for the
Speaker 1: outside linebackers, and I don't think we have clarity yet.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that we've sorted anything out
Speaker 1: because they're still playing time to be earned for whoever
Speaker 1: goes out there and deserves it. You much as mentioned
Speaker 1: David Bess, he was second on the team last year
Speaker 1: and sex a little bit banged up this summer. Headsn't
Speaker 1: seemed to get a long look. Maybe that's going to
Speaker 1: change here. Uh, well, we're at the end of the
Speaker 1: preseason right now. I have no idea how that's gonna look.
Speaker 1: When you go to sub packages, who who are you
Speaker 1: using on the outside. I would say again, pencil in
Speaker 1: Jordan and Josh Martin again, pencil the man as you started. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then what happens from there as far as your
Speaker 1: sub packages are concerned, I'm not sure. And Loronzo Maldin
Speaker 1: is another guy we didn't mention. We didn't mention Della
Speaker 1: Donna Hue either. And you talked about special teams, Well,
Speaker 1: Brandon Copeland was a special team's ace for the Lions
Speaker 1: when he was there. Della donni Hue, what can he
Speaker 1: do on special teams this last year? Della donni? He
Speaker 1: only played four games and then he got her. He
Speaker 1: was special teams against the Jaguars, which Paul Puzzle wasn't he.
Speaker 1: So outside linebacker is definitely a spot that I think
Speaker 1: a lot of jess fans will have their eye on.
Speaker 1: But now let's moved back to the secondary here. Similar
Speaker 1: to what E said about the receivers is do you
Speaker 1: have the four? Then you go from there? For for me,
Speaker 1: just talking about the corners, it seems like you have
Speaker 1: Trumaine Johnson, Morris Claybore, buster screen and then where do
Speaker 1: you go from there? Because someone like Perry Nicker said
Speaker 1: he flashed early on in camp that he had the
Speaker 1: hammy tweak, he missed a couple of weeks. What's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with him? What's gonna happen with Derek Bones Jones,
Speaker 1: who was another flashing camp And then like you said,
Speaker 1: he it might just come down to special teams because
Speaker 1: someone like Darryl Roberts and Justin Burns, they were the
Speaker 1: gunners last year on this Jets team. Ferry Nickerson showed
Speaker 1: enough to me earlier that's he's a pencil guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't even mess with throwing him
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Yeah he's here, He's gonna last
Speaker 1: on your practice practice. Yeah he should enough. He looks
Speaker 1: like he could. He really could be something down the
Speaker 1: line for this team, and hopefully, you know, he gets
Speaker 1: back in the mix. Now is the you know, on
Speaker 1: the side of caution. I guess with Nickerson because at
Speaker 1: the hamstring injury. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Caught
Speaker 1: In Bones Jones has made a nice um case for himself,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned Justin Burrs. He's a former fourth round
Speaker 1: pick I believe out on c State. And you know,
Speaker 1: Darryl Roberts the guy who's running with the once not
Speaker 1: too long ago. So yeah, it's gonna be interesting how
Speaker 1: that all shakes out. I can't remember a time when
Speaker 1: the secondary from top to bottom was this talent. Didn't
Speaker 1: had this much depth for this team, right, because in
Speaker 1: the past you had you know, everybody thinks back to
Speaker 1: the Rex days. Okay, when they went to the two
Speaker 1: championship games. You had Rieves and Crow there's your corners,
Speaker 1: high caliber players. Of course, you know, you go back
Speaker 1: even earlier in the two thousand's there when you have
Speaker 1: that Aaron Glenn Marcus Coleman tandem and they were really
Speaker 1: good for a little bit there, right, Kings is a
Speaker 1: nickelbag who was outstanding, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 1: but then when you factor in the safeties, and that's
Speaker 1: what really I mean, if you weren't excited ready by
Speaker 1: the corners, you talk about these safeties and when you
Speaker 1: talk about Leonard Williams, we talked about Darren Lee, guys
Speaker 1: who now you want to see them that next year?
Speaker 1: What they do I mean, my goodness to me, at
Speaker 1: the top of the list of these two safeties, okay,
Speaker 1: the leap that they could potentially take from your and
Speaker 1: year one wasn't bad. Year one to year two, we
Speaker 1: might be talking about a couple of Pro Bowlers or
Speaker 1: All pros. I mean, they have that kind of potential,
Speaker 1: and that could set a tone big time, not just
Speaker 1: for the secondary, but for the rest of that defense
Speaker 1: and cover up maybe some deficiencies you have up there
Speaker 1: in the front seven. The one thing about the safeties
Speaker 1: that I will say is that I'm very interested to
Speaker 1: see how Marcus may how much he plays in the preseason,
Speaker 1: because he really hasn't practiced a whole lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has practiced, but he hasn't ran with the first
Speaker 1: team for the entirety of training camp. This is a
Speaker 1: guy that got hurt in the season finale. You hate
Speaker 1: those seasons. He didn't do a whole lot in the spring,
Speaker 1: but he said that he still worked out with the team.
Speaker 1: So I want to know, is there any kind of
Speaker 1: we talked about Darren Lee and Avery Williams and Jelly.
Speaker 1: I know those guys are closed, but do they have
Speaker 1: to do it on the fields but for a couple
Speaker 1: of games before they can really start making those leaps
Speaker 1: and bounds that you hope to see. I'd be more
Speaker 1: concerned if this was the rookie year as opposed to
Speaker 1: ye or two. You know, they gained valuable experience. List
Speaker 1: they basically played the whole season. It's the same defense.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about those guys. I really think, and
Speaker 1: I know him like bouncing out of my seat here
Speaker 1: the high chair. By the way, sky is the limit
Speaker 1: for these two, it really is. The sky is the limit.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. As I said before here about
Speaker 1: Jamal is he's kind of the next factor because you
Speaker 1: can move him around and play him different positions. He's
Speaker 1: labeled as a safety, but a lot of times you'll
Speaker 1: be looking at him in the box and you can
Speaker 1: consider him that extra linebacker. But I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: take steps as far as coverage is concerned, and that
Speaker 1: goes back to his eyes and diagnosing and knowing what's
Speaker 1: coming at him. I anticipate he's gonna play faster. He's
Speaker 1: in better shape this year, trimmed down. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to say Jamal was bolted
Speaker 1: up last year, but it's his body looks better in
Speaker 1: terms of body, and he looks little bit quicker. Well,
Speaker 1: he said that he he now is a personal chef
Speaker 1: who's helped him all with him. You don't person, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. And at this I'll tell you what And I,
Speaker 1: like Dan said, you gotta like the depths the safety
Speaker 1: spot too. You have Doug Middleton get valuable reps throughout
Speaker 1: the spring when May was out. J J. Wilcox is
Speaker 1: a guy who started a lot of ballgames in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Ron Tess will start the season, but
Speaker 1: if he comes back, he's one of your special teams
Speaker 1: core players. I like to say you're missing t Brooks
Speaker 1: because last year he was a guy that was a
Speaker 1: special team's ace. Yeah, he so got value. You know,
Speaker 1: that's another question. How many safeties here keeping? I think
Speaker 1: you're going for you are going for. I think you're
Speaker 1: going forward because last year you had three on the
Speaker 1: field that multiple time. Ultimately, if you go for it
Speaker 1: probably comes down to J. J. Wilcox or Terence Brooks, right,
Speaker 1: because Dogy Middleton was getting those getting one. I would
Speaker 1: lean towards Terrence Brooks. I'm not asking to make a prediction.
Speaker 1: I'm just asking if you think that's what it's gonna
Speaker 1: come down to. I do think it's come down to Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think I mean, maybe I'm wrong here. This
Speaker 1: is looking down, looking down the tunnel a little bit.
Speaker 1: But Brandon Bryant, I think maybe that's a potential peace
Speaker 1: Squad guy, So you no doubt, I think, But I
Speaker 1: think it does come down to those two guys. You know,
Speaker 1: we forgot we forgot the calculator, like we need the
Speaker 1: fancy to tally up fifty three here because I'm not
Speaker 1: at the positions and I'm like, wait a second, we're
Speaker 1: probably up to putting like sixty guys on the team here.
Speaker 1: It's it's tough, and when you get to those I mean,
Speaker 1: it's cliche, but when you get to those last couple
Speaker 1: of spots of the roster, those are the toughest decisions, right,
Speaker 1: And there's gonna be movement that bottom three four, not
Speaker 1: just with the Jets, but with the thirty one other teams.
Speaker 1: And that's when you check out the waiver wire and
Speaker 1: who's available and who you shift into the practice squad.
Speaker 1: And that's why Mike mccagnet and his staff, I don't
Speaker 1: want that job. At the end of the week, I
Speaker 1: don't want that job. Finalizing this roster will be a
Speaker 1: few surprises. There always are, you know, and a lot
Speaker 1: goes into that as far as getting some other guys reps,
Speaker 1: financial considerations, and what is out there on waivers. All right,
Speaker 1: pretty much a wrap here. You have any any last point?
Speaker 1: Said you trying to get out there? No, I just
Speaker 1: wish the Thursday night game in Philadelphia was maybe Wednesday
Speaker 1: or something. It's college football has a season take off.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of games. Is there a great Thursday
Speaker 1: night I like to I like to Purdue Northwestern game.
Speaker 1: He is a big boiler America. Yeah, and I like
Speaker 1: the Northwestern won ten games last year. That's a nice matchup.
Speaker 1: Nothing else the NFL. I love my job and I'll
Speaker 1: be in Philly pumped to be there. Maybe I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind moving it up to Wednesday next year. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: put it in a request to put the Jets game
Speaker 1: on one screen North QUESTERNT another could make that happen.
Speaker 1: When you have like the apt it, whatever channel the
Speaker 1: game is, I need to watch everything on. That's all right.
Speaker 1: That's all we got. That was the roster breakdown. E
Speaker 1: A Dan Browser and E G.