WEBVTT - Jets-Eagles Game Preview (8/29)

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<v Speaker 1>The game was over and New York jef the world

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<v Speaker 1>you playing to win the date He's got as a

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<v Speaker 1>Jet toucksdown. You're listening to the Official New York Jets podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>a Jets three sixty production. Ethan Greenberg and Erik Allen

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<v Speaker 1>here in studio on the Official Jets Podcast. So we

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<v Speaker 1>were in here earlier today and we recorded a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't really earlier today, It was earlier today. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to believe. We recorded the podcast The Day's Round together.

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<v Speaker 1>We recorded a podcast talking about Jets Eagles Thursday night

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<v Speaker 1>pre season finale, and then mid afternoon, Teddy Bridgewater was traded.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're back in studio. And for those who don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I'm breaking news to you, well, frankly you

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<v Speaker 1>should check Twitter more often if you have a Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you don't have Twitter and you're I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably can get on Instagram too. Write the trade. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume so and so. But if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>on social media and you you're relying on e A

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<v Speaker 1>and myself is that Teddy Bridgewater is now a member

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<v Speaker 1>of the New Orleans Saints. The Jets traded Bridgewater and

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<v Speaker 1>a six round pick in two thousand nineteen, they got

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<v Speaker 1>back at two third round pick e A. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the deal? I'm not shocked that Teddy

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<v Speaker 1>Bridgewater was traded. I was a little bit surprised by

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<v Speaker 1>the destination because the Saints obviously have a future Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer at quarterback, durable one as well, and they

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<v Speaker 1>they got a couple of guys behind him right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine, and I wrote this just now, that

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<v Speaker 1>Teddy Bridgewater comes in automatically becomes your backup quarterback. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is the official Jets podcast, is not

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL podcast, And just looking at the trade is

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<v Speaker 1>that why does it happen? Because Sam Donald frankly had

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<v Speaker 1>a very good spring, and you could make the he

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<v Speaker 1>meant that he had a better summer. And while Bridgewater

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<v Speaker 1>uh played very well for the Jets since signing here

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<v Speaker 1>in March, and Sam Donald is the future of this organization,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to get a third round pick for someone

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<v Speaker 1>that hasn't played football in two years and his only

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<v Speaker 1>football action has been in preseason, I think that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>darn impressive when you consider that a third round pick

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<v Speaker 1>is what the Browns gave up to get Tyrod Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>who lead the Bills of the playoffs last year. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very it's a very good deal. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know there's a lot of speculation that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Jets will use that extra third round pick

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<v Speaker 1>either before the season, similar to what the Jets did

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<v Speaker 1>with Jermaine Curse, they acquired more picks and than they

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<v Speaker 1>used it later on. When later on maybe is the

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<v Speaker 1>big question because I've seen reports that are maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>try to get a pass rusher before the season, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you try to use the extra third round pick

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft to move up in the draft. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be speculation, of course, but I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have more Ammo. And you have to credit Mike mcagnan

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<v Speaker 1>again because he went out and signed Bridgewater before Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Donald was acquired and actually before I believe the st

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's day was when the Jets traded with Indianapolis and

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<v Speaker 1>moved up those three spots and sent their first along

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<v Speaker 1>with the Trio second round picks to America's heartland to

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<v Speaker 1>the Horseshoes. But that was after they had signed Bridgewater.

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<v Speaker 1>So the events happened like this Bridgewater signs, then the

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<v Speaker 1>resigning of McCown happens a couple of hours later. Then

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<v Speaker 1>a few days later mcagnan trades to go up from

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<v Speaker 1>six to number three. You just think about what mccagnan,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Heimerdinger, and the rest of the personnel staff did

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<v Speaker 1>in this spring. It's really impression. I totally agree with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and what you just mentioned all happened in the span

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<v Speaker 1>of five days. Because the legal tampering period starts two

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<v Speaker 1>days before free agency, which means it's mark twelve. Free

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<v Speaker 1>agency officially opened March fourteen, which means you can put

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<v Speaker 1>pen to paper there, and then three days after that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, he that the Jets trade with the

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<v Speaker 1>Colts and goes six to three, not knowing who's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be there at three, and Sam Donald falls to three

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<v Speaker 1>Jets pick them up in April. So when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the job like you said that, like the Cagan,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Heimerdinger in the front office, if done, I I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you, very impressive. Conceivably, I wonder what you

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<v Speaker 1>could get if you ever shipped the pair of threes.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what people are thinking out there. They're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about the big fish, and that's what a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the external media is talking about with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>all I would say is Cleil mac is under contract

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<v Speaker 1>with the Oakland Raiders. A lot of people anticipate Greens

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<v Speaker 1>that he will come to the Raiders when the regular

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<v Speaker 1>season commences next week. Because you only get paid in

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season, and these scheduled getting more than eleven

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars this year, which means if you divide that

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<v Speaker 1>up amongst sixteen regular season weeks, that's a big paycheck. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a big paycheck. He's I mean also Khalil

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<v Speaker 1>Mcin Aaron Donalds, who's holding out the Rams. The more

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<v Speaker 1>you hold out, the more find you get during training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>So they're actually paying to hold out. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so I would say this, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this because we're not having these conversations with Mike mcagnor. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy's going about his business. Um. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you make this deal just thinking about one deal specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you make this deal thinking about short term,

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<v Speaker 1>long term, short term. You like the two quarterbacks who

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<v Speaker 1>have in house, and I think they liked Ted Bridgewater too.

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<v Speaker 1>But with that being said, at having three good quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>is a luxury, and the Saints said, we see a

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<v Speaker 1>good quarterback on your rosters five years old. We'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to have them. But in turn, you've got to give

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<v Speaker 1>up something so the Jets get the third round value

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<v Speaker 1>there um. So you know, I think with your the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do a lot with the third round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you don't have a second round pick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and just for them, for instance, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the draft chart in front of me, that

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<v Speaker 1>old chart that everybody refers to him goes back two threes.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets you low too. He definitely gets you low too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. The other thing is about the Saints is

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<v Speaker 1>that you would assume that wherever that pick is is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be, it's gonna be closer in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round than it's gonna be towards the front of

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<v Speaker 1>the third round. Because you mentioned the Saints and how

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<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting destination. Maybe the Saints are looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the successor to Drew Brees potential. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is that if you're the Saints, a one year deal

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<v Speaker 1>right to well, I think it's a two year deal

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<v Speaker 1>or one in an option. But the thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>someone made this point I thought it was interesting, is

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<v Speaker 1>if you're the Saints, and you think that you're a

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate contender, and you saw what happened to the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>last year when Carson Wentz went down. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you have an insurance plan just in case. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints are for sure legitimate contender. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>last year that I thought they would have won Super Bowl. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously I don't make that tackle against the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're a Jets fan, yes you have interest

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<v Speaker 1>now to root for Teddy Bridgewater. But hopefully the Saints

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<v Speaker 1>don't do as well. Yeah, no doubt what. We should

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<v Speaker 1>put a ball on Bridgewater. Ah. He is a good person.

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<v Speaker 1>He was well liked inside the locker room. We weren't

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<v Speaker 1>there in Minnesota when he suffered the devastating in injury,

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<v Speaker 1>but by all accounts, that was horrific. He has been

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<v Speaker 1>on an unbelievable climb the past two seasons. What we

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<v Speaker 1>saw from him in the spring and the summer was

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<v Speaker 1>more than just a competent quarterback. Was a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>can and will be a starter in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just gotta love his approach because when he

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt, he never said why me? He said a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people had worse off than me, are dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with far worse problems than me, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people did not believe in Teddy Bridgewater. He never stopped believing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he earned a tremendous amount of respect inside this

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<v Speaker 1>locker room and from this fan base, and me as

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who had the fortune to go down to

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<v Speaker 1>Miami with one of our producers, Chris hobbins Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>see where Teddy's from Miami and how many odds he's

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<v Speaker 1>already overcome always be rooting for him. I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you interacted with Teddy, you're been around Teddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you root for Teddy Personally, I'm rooting for Teddy.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how he does in New Orleans or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever his next stop. Maybe he will miss his media availabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>But for fans at home, most media availabilities start with

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<v Speaker 1>oh you like the opening state and possibly a pr

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<v Speaker 1>assistant saying questions please, does anybody have questions? No one ounced.

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<v Speaker 1>Teddy would always come in and give you somemation on

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the team, that what occurred at practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was coach like because he'd hit it to

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<v Speaker 1>a t. He tells you we got we got into

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<v Speaker 1>some good red zone work today. We had too many

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<v Speaker 1>penalties here. We ran some gasters at practice, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was great conditioning. He was always a guy who embraced

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<v Speaker 1>every day, each rep, every opportunity. I'm gonna us the

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<v Speaker 1>dancing on the sideline and yeah, he's big Michael Jackson guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But regardless, he won't be there for Jets Eagles, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was multiple times where Michael Jackson was

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<v Speaker 1>on and he was he was on alright. So Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night Jets Eagles preseason finale, Teddy Bridgewater will not be

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<v Speaker 1>there obviously, which means that the quarterback rotation will be

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<v Speaker 1>some form of Sam Donald, Josh McCown and John Walford.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how that plays out. What I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know is not so much about the quarterbacks c A,

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<v Speaker 1>but about the other Let me see, there's three seven

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<v Speaker 1>as some quick math in my head, there the other

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<v Speaker 1>eighties seven guys on the field. Because Coach Bowles talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it, there's like five or six spots up for

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<v Speaker 1>grabs right now, and this is the final time that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these players will be on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>And e A and I caught up with Dan Brazza

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<v Speaker 1>last week. He's the pre and postgame voice for the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets on ESPN, and we broke down the roster. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll toss that the minute here, But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about now in the present, who you're I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you have a lot of guys that you

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<v Speaker 1>have your eyes on, but who are you most excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see how they performed on Thursday night? And you

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<v Speaker 1>told me earlier he had a big prediction. It was

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty five guys. So I can't pinpoint it right.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, you said if I well, was it if

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<v Speaker 1>I start swinging, I'm hitting or something like for me?

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it's all about positional groups. And you looked

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<v Speaker 1>down on the roster a number of players and what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end up happening? And I'm like a Trey McBride

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<v Speaker 1>who was featured in one Jet Strive and his push

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<v Speaker 1>for the team. Or at the receiver position. Um further,

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<v Speaker 1>at the receiver position, what are the Jets gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>a returner? Is Andre Roberts the veteran? Will he be

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<v Speaker 1>on this roster come Saturay? How about the outside linebacker position?

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond the Jordan Jenkins and the Josh Martin's of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankie Louvill and Brandon Copland have gotten a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ps there. But who got his first sac against the

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<v Speaker 1>guess he did? And then you think about a former

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks Dolan Donahue, Lorenzo Molden. What do they have

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<v Speaker 1>to show for themselves coming out here Thursday night? The

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<v Speaker 1>safety position and we'll get into this with Graza and

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<v Speaker 1>we did the cornerback position, and I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>great battle down there Derek Bones, Jones and company. Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Burr's is a former draft pick who uh you know?

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<v Speaker 1>For him, I think he will have to do a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things out here. And even if these guys

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<v Speaker 1>don't make the roster, you really auditioning for thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>other teams. Um, you know, offensive line depths comes into

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<v Speaker 1>focus and we talk about that all the time. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>big prediction Trent and Cannon Cannon boom, Cannon shot, Henry

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<v Speaker 1>yards rushing and the preseason final game against the defending

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl champion Philadelphia goes much of those Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>champs won't probably be on the field, but Cannon will

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<v Speaker 1>have a nice to Oh yeah, I have to bring

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<v Speaker 1>this up because we said that you said this earlier

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<v Speaker 1>and when we recorded the pot initially. E A has

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<v Speaker 1>not added cheese steaks since two thousand two, and he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't put cheese on the cheese steaks. That is correct, blasphemy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get onions and peppers in a suck. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a big cheese guy. I like pizza, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a big cheese guy. So yeah, if I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get a cheese steak, I'll get it, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the peppers and some onions and just in the butt

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<v Speaker 1>in the sub. You only eat half of the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>you eat the whole sub. Eat it. Well. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>like some people like to make you know, sandwiches like

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<v Speaker 1>convertible as they rip off the top half of the bread.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're not eating the carbs. No, No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that, like in AFT. A couple of carbs here

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<v Speaker 1>and there. That's fine. If you're gonna have one of

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<v Speaker 1>those cheese steaks, you're not gonna have it. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna have it without cheese. But well you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna go to gym, Yeah, but you can order

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<v Speaker 1>one at gym's or pats or or or Randy Lang

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<v Speaker 1>who who's uh one of our esteemed writers on New

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<v Speaker 1>York Jets dot com. He's his favorite. It's bibles listen,

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<v Speaker 1>which I am trying tomorrow for the record, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if they let you do that down there is the

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<v Speaker 1>order one without a bun. I bet you they wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have No, I didn't meet without a bun.

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<v Speaker 1>I meant like, you only eat like half of the breadth. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I neat the whole thing. But I haven't gone. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're going on early tomorrow on Thursday, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>get yourself a cheese steak. Apparently that's the deal. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>who's who are you going with? The goons? The goonies?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that social media for? Yeah? Yeah, they're always looking

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<v Speaker 1>for their next meal, aren't they? Yeah? Thanks? So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well you gave a big prediction. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>my big prediction, fearless prediction. Chad Hansen one bill over

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<v Speaker 1>a bill receiving yards. Yeah, and before we get to garage,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you. I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>a question. I want to see if you've been reading

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<v Speaker 1>my articles in New York Just dot com, who is

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<v Speaker 1>leading the New York Jets in tackles this preseason in tackles. Well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's correct. Yeah, that is Hewett. And watch forty six

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<v Speaker 1>because he's all over the field. He'll get some snaps

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<v Speaker 1>if I enjoyed watching him and read about him in

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<v Speaker 1>New York just dot com. Because I didn't know this,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. I knew Miami played a four three,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know he was an outside linebacker and

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<v Speaker 1>at four three, But that makes sense, he's a transition

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<v Speaker 1>to three or four inside linebacker. I like him twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years old. I think he'd provide some nice step

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<v Speaker 1>I like them too. I'm pretty sure he's a thundering hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that? Yeah? You know who else?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? Thunder? That's right, friend of the pot, All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Before we tossed to Dan rather here, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that echo what you said. If I had

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on one position for me, would be the

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<v Speaker 1>receivers because I met Enhanson, you mentioned McBride. Are Darius Stewart,

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<v Speaker 1>the third round pick from last year. He's suspended the

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<v Speaker 1>first two games, so this is your last taste of

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<v Speaker 1>him before potentially making the team Week three. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. When the Jets go from ninety fifty three,

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<v Speaker 1>suspended players do not count towards that fifty three. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at our Darius Stewart, Um, Richard Robinson, Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Pierre Lewis I believe are the three guys. So those

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<v Speaker 1>guys will not count in KPL. Very quiet summer in

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<v Speaker 1>practice at all, I am playing. So what happened? But

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<v Speaker 1>regardless Jets Eagles seven PM preseason finale. But for now,

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<v Speaker 1>breakdown with Dan Graza. Alright, Dan, now comes the fun

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<v Speaker 1>part this roster. Later this week, it's gonna go from

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<v Speaker 1>ninety players to fifty three. There's no seventy five anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be seventy five, seventy five to fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's straight nine fifty three, which means almost half

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<v Speaker 1>of this team will not be in green and white

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<v Speaker 1>come September two. All right, let's start with the qubs here,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically in Sam Donald. Did you expect so much from

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<v Speaker 1>this guy this early? I gotta be honest. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you're optimistic, and clearly when you trade up like they

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<v Speaker 1>did too three, whichever guy you were going to select,

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<v Speaker 1>you got high expectations from gonna be a talented quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>but not even so much the physical. I think what's

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<v Speaker 1>impressed me and maybe exceeded the expectations that I had

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<v Speaker 1>for him going in is what you've already understood about

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<v Speaker 1>him from a mental side of things. Jeremy Bates. You

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned he's spoken glowingly about everything we've thrown at. This guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's absorbed and it's beyond impressive. Right. He missed the

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<v Speaker 1>first three days of training camp because of the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Told that he came in here and what did he do?

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<v Speaker 1>He was already spitting out plays that they worked on

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<v Speaker 1>during the mini camp, So that recall that memory. That's

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<v Speaker 1>important because you guys know this. You're a quarterback as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to just being a wide receiver and knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>your route is supposed to be. You're a quarterback. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to know what every guy in your offense on

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<v Speaker 1>the field is supposed to be doing in each and

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<v Speaker 1>every play. And if that isn't too much for him

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<v Speaker 1>at this stage of his career, then you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only gonna get better moving forward. We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to the running backs now. Isaiah Crow, Allen balal Pal

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<v Speaker 1>both solid camps now, do you carry another back outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Trenton Cannon because Eli McGuire's out there, or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that the numbers elsewhere are a little too heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be more contingent upon some of

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<v Speaker 1>those other positions and what you do, uh to make

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<v Speaker 1>it a numbers game necessarily. You know, Thomas Rawls is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy. The opportunity to talk to him for our

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<v Speaker 1>pregame show for the Giant game and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>great guy. You know, great guy. And remember this is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who had some moments with the Seattle Seahawks,

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<v Speaker 1>remember the playoff game against the Lions a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. I mean, he he was outstanding. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a quality, capable NFL back. And I think as

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<v Speaker 1>you said that, you know, with Eli mc wired down,

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<v Speaker 1>that presents an opportunity for somebody else to get some place.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Cannon, everybody's excited by what he can do

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<v Speaker 1>and he brings a dimension to the game. Does he

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<v Speaker 1>become your third down guy? Like is he your change

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<v Speaker 1>the pace type back or are you gonna keep Rolls

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<v Speaker 1>in there? Maybe who's not as shifty, but he's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy you could still give the rock to and have

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<v Speaker 1>him grind out some tough yards for you. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be more dependent on what they decided

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<v Speaker 1>to do with some of these other positions, like something

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<v Speaker 1>we hit on last week with the tight ends. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of guys there. How many are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep? It's gonna be linked to special teams too,

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<v Speaker 1>because are you comfortable with Trenton Cannon handling your kickoff

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<v Speaker 1>returns which is something he did at Virginia State and

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<v Speaker 1>did it very well. And punt returns He put a

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<v Speaker 1>couple on the ground in that first preseason game. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are comfortable with that, obviously takes away a rosters

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<v Speaker 1>or freaks up a roster spot, excuse me, somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's gonna be the interesting part of the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I would say about the backs is

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<v Speaker 1>at fullback, a lot of people were ta talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Dmitri Flowers from Oklahoma. He signed on restricted free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Lawrence Thomas has had a nice camp guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's big, he's a powerful blocker, and he's got good

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<v Speaker 1>hands for being a former defensive alignment himself used to

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<v Speaker 1>block for Levan Bell at Michigan State. I think LT

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<v Speaker 1>has had a nice camp and it's went under the radar.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. And lt for being his size,

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<v Speaker 1>he has some hands and he has some shifting. This

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<v Speaker 1>to him for being almost three hundred pounds Stump Mitchell

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<v Speaker 1>said that Lawrence Thomas played at three hundred pounds last

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<v Speaker 1>season and he and they were fine with that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you mentioned cannon and the puns because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not comfortable with Canada returning puns, he would almost

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<v Speaker 1>assume that Andre Roberts might be that guy. And throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason, throughout training camp, he's been the number one

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<v Speaker 1>punk returner, which leads to the receivers. Now that's a

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<v Speaker 1>crowded room. That's a room that has a suspension in

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<v Speaker 1>our Darius Stewart to start off the year. All I

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<v Speaker 1>think that receiver is gonna be a very difficult decision

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<v Speaker 1>when you factor in the play off, Trey McBride and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Chad Hanson was a fourth round pick

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<v Speaker 1>last year and a nice camp by the way, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you talked about special teams, Well, Andrey Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be the guy at that. Well, Lucky White,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they had a lot of pop in the

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<v Speaker 1>return game. But you're right, Greens, it's a loaded room

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<v Speaker 1>because you think about up top, you got your main

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<v Speaker 1>Curse and Robbie Anderson. You can pencil those guys and

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<v Speaker 1>Quincy and Noona Torrell prior, those guys limited early in

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<v Speaker 1>camp and then they started to increase their workload as

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<v Speaker 1>we've gone on here. But you've always thought of Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always started the receiver position as those four. And

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<v Speaker 1>then then where do we start? Well, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to what you brought up a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>minutes ago with special teams and and not even so

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<v Speaker 1>much in the return game, but in coverage, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna keep a wide receiver and even a running

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<v Speaker 1>back for that matter, if they're not necessarily your return guy,

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<v Speaker 1>well can they play teams? Are they gonna be on

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<v Speaker 1>your coverage squad? Because you're not gonna use one of

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<v Speaker 1>those precious spots for game day to dress a player

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<v Speaker 1>at let's say a position like that. If you know

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<v Speaker 1>who are on the bottom part of that depth chart,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're not going to play teams as well, because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to have them to be able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>serve a multifaceted role. There. So that's gonna be interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's you know, the fullbacks you mentioned, you know

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<v Speaker 1>one of those, you know, the third string running back

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, and then that that maybe fifth receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>If they could play special teams, that's only gonna enhance

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<v Speaker 1>their chances of suiting up on Sundays. And we always

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<v Speaker 1>forget to talk about Ron Peak. He a touchdown catch,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the Redskins, and he is also a valuable special

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<v Speaker 1>teams performer. Peak doesn't make the roster here. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be playing for somebody Week one in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>Peak was on I R for the majority of last season,

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<v Speaker 1>his sophomore season. And now, Dan, we gotta turn to

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite position. You alluded to it last week in

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<v Speaker 1>the tight ends. Now we're back with more tight because,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, there's a lot of them, and head

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<v Speaker 1>coach Todd Ball said, this is gonna be the most

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<v Speaker 1>difficult position to evaluate. I'm excited. Was excited immediately when

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<v Speaker 1>they drafted Chris Herndon. Okay, he's a guy whose college career,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the numbers didn't stack up to what you thought

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<v Speaker 1>because he was hampered by injury. So you maybe get

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<v Speaker 1>a diamond in the rough there that you end up

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<v Speaker 1>with in the mid rounds. Talent wise, if he was healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably would have went a little bit sooner. He

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<v Speaker 1>excites me, Legged, and that to me was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the disappointments of last year. You know, Legged, I was

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<v Speaker 1>really as excited as I am about Herndon. I was

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<v Speaker 1>almost as excited about Legged a year ago. This guy

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<v Speaker 1>who played him big time games at Clemson, but his

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<v Speaker 1>rookie season was watched away last year because of injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and the coaches were high on him all right. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you could keep those two guys healthy, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a foundation. Then those other wild cards, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's Tomlinson and whether it's Sterling Wolford. You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>are guys who have already been through the wars in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. They have experience. They're not flashy type players,

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<v Speaker 1>but they play a role for you. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to get a little dirty there and mix it

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<v Speaker 1>up there in the trenches, which nowadays you can still

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<v Speaker 1>use the tight end. I know it's old school, but

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes those tight ends blocking in there, they still serve

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<v Speaker 1>a purpose. A couple of points here, Tomlinson is the

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<v Speaker 1>best blocker of the bunch you mentioned it before, Herndon

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<v Speaker 1>has is shown to be explosive out of breaks. The

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<v Speaker 1>smooth route runner Leg is the guy who you might

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<v Speaker 1>make in her argument, even though he hasn't had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of game action other than a couple of preseason games,

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<v Speaker 1>that he might have the best hands of them all.

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<v Speaker 1>He just gotta stay healthy. Clive Walford is really taken

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<v Speaker 1>off um too. And then Nate sternly underrated athlete in

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:39.920
<v Speaker 1>his own right. He can get down the field. So

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>they liked this group. And finally, Sam Donald like throwing

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 1>to the tight ends. He uses the tight ends for

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 1>anybody to watch the practice that you can watch usc

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:55.640
<v Speaker 1>you watch practice, it's some of the games. Listen, this

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 1>guy is gonna throw to the big guys early and off,

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 1>and he likes those matchups. Tight end is, let's be honest,

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>especially in those short to intermediate routes that could serve

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 1>as a great security blanket for a quarterback. And as

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>he said, I mean, Sam Donald, we've already seen it

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>so far here in camping in preseason. He's not afraid

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to go to them. And I know that the tight

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.719
<v Speaker 1>end is almost becoming at least the way traditionally the

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.239
<v Speaker 1>tight end position was. It's almost becoming fossilized in the

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:22.199
<v Speaker 1>NFL now. But you know, because these these tight ends

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 1>are just such freakish athletes. They're like former basketball players,

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>most of them. They can just get up and down

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>the field, work the scenes and stuff. But I like

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>this group, and I think there's some wild cards. Would

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it surprise either of you if the Jets kept four

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>tight ends? No, it would me. Four four four to

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>me is a little bit only because I'm not convinced

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that a couple of those guys that we discussed might

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 1>be best suited for special teams. And that's something that

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 1>they would, I think have to do. I mean, if

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>you're keeping four tight ends, they're playing teams at least

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.360
<v Speaker 1>a couple of them. All Right, So I guess we'll

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>see what happens come September one. I didn't say it's

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, right, I'm just saying, we'll see what happens.

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I will tell So now we gotta go to the

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>big Uglies a lie and assuming everything's okay on the

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>health front, Calvin Beacham, James Carpenter, Spencer Long, Brian Winters,

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Shell, those are your five right there. Now, behind

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>those guys, what happens because this is a group where

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>where I don't know about you dead or U E A.

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>But when I watch in a game, I can't really

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>tell you that guy is having a good game, that

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>guy is having a good game because I'm not down

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>there understanding everyone's blocks. Depth is a concern, right, I

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 1>think the depth is a question. I like Spencer Long.

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's an upgrade at the center position. That

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and one guy especially is center. I mean it's cliche,

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>but that could be the glue to hold the line together.

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 1>And I think that he'll be invaluable for this team.

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Case in point, if you are also going with a

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>young quarterback, it's going to be incumbent upon the offensive

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>line to make his life as manageable as possible as

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>he's still learning the ropes. And I know that a

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of the so called experts want to say, well,

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't start Sam Donald week one because you have,

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, an offensive line which isn't considered upper echelon

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. I don't buy that for a second.

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I actually think this group, this is the big if

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>if they stay healthy, it's gonna be a lot better

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>than people given credit for and better then they've shown

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe thus far in the preseason because they haven't been

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>together much in the preseason because of various things. And

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, losing Egellana was big just because he served

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>that purposes, that swing tackle. There in the backup. You

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>have a couple of other guys, but I mean, it's

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>so rare that you're gonna go throughout the entire six

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>team games which just the same five guys playing. You're

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna need that depth. But remember, just because they're not

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>on the roster now to con be on somebody else's roster,

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>and there's gonna be cuts happening thirty one other teams

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that maybe you find a valuable guy, maybe because a

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>cap reasons he gets cut, boom, maybe they pounced on him.

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Jets is the only team in

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 1>the National Football League who would like to increase their

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>death doubt across that offensive line. And to the point here,

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I think much was made what happened and Washington because

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Harrison, who was in for Brian Winters, got beat

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>on the and then yes, and then got beat on

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>a sack as well, and he was filling in for

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Calvin Beacham. I think bottom line is those five could

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>be a solid group. Um, they gotta stay together. You

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>mentioned you're talking about depth. The guy who jumps out

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>at me throughout training camp, who is likely to stay

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>at this point in time, You'd have to say Jonathan

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Harrison because they were using him as a second team center,

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and then when Winners did go down during the preseason,

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>they gave him an opportunity to play at right guard.

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I know he gave the sack, gave up the sack quality.

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>He's a guy who comes into focus for this team

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>right now because, like Dan mentioned, but Gelana is not there.

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>He was the valuable swing tackle. Now quality, he's probably

0:28:55.880 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>first up at both left and right tackle. Uh dacoted Osier.

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the duped on the inside. It's probably a

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit better right now where the where the Jets stand.

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>But again, what's gonna happen over the next week, because

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the Jets are gonna have a final fifty three that

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>isn't final at all, because they're gonna see what else

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>is out there. And I wouldn't be we're talking about surprises,

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>would not be surprised at all. If they had another one.

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>It's true for all NFL teams. You're fifty three man

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>roster is always subject to change on any given day,

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>any even moment. Something that Bowls talked about is position

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>flex and maybe some of the guys that can play

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>tackle and guard will have a little more value than

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>someone that is just a guard or just a tackle.

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens. I wonder what's gonna happen with

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Travis Swanson because he's been he's been predominantly,

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>he's been the third team center. Now he's a guy

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>who's got starting experience, whipped the Lions came over in

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the off season, things like heard much about him. Isn't

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>it funny to think about this was a guy they

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>signed Spencer Long and then they signed Travis Swansons Like,

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>wait a secondy just signed the center. But as you said,

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>this is a guy who's had starting experience before in

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the league. And they talked about position flex too. But

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>most of the time when we've been seeing him out

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>there has been but he he has played some guard

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>in his career before. So now let's shift to the

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>defensive side of the ball. Will start up front again,

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>just because we were all line. Now let's go d line.

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>This is a different line that I think Jets fans

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>are used to seeing it down there. However, the big

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>cat is still down there. Lennon Williams. Steve McClendon really

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>hasn't practiced for the majority of trading camp, but he's

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the he's one of the guys that's to glue with

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>a lock and he's one of the leaders on this team.

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>So what do you make of this group that got

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>three players on draft Day? Two of them Nate Shepard

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and fall Arounzo Phadukasi draft picks and then Nate Excuse me,

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Henry Anderson was a seventh round trade and he's someone

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>that he's got some first team reps out there. Great

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>story Henry Anderson too. I interviewed him for our pregame

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>show for the Giants, and you know, and I even

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>asked him about it too. But you think about the

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>big story and all the coverage with the team of

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a guy coming back from a serious injury was Teddy

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Bridgewater and everything he went through. Henry Anderson, I mean,

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>what he went through with the Colts last year. Let's

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>be honest. None of us are signing up for that.

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>He had a fractured larynx for crying out loud in

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>his throat. That's that. That's painful. You know, you don't

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>want any part of that. Yeah, just real quick. How

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>did that happen? I don't know, but you think when

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>he got hurt, he was able to tell someone that

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>he was hurt if you injure your throatbox, like you

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>think he just had to like point to his neck

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and like make a bunch of no, like no, no,

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>no sign. It's not a pleasurable experience, that's for sure.

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>But you know, and so he was able to work

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>his way back from that. And you know, he was

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>in Indianapolis when they changed coaches there at the end

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of the season and they went to a four three defense.

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>So he trimmed down a little bit, thinking he have

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to play a little quicker when you're playing in a

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>four man front. Then he gets traded here and then

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>he's like, what it's like now I'm going into a

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>thirty four where your defensive woman needs to be a

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit bigger, you know, gap integrity, that sort of

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>thing taken on a couple of blockers. So he put

0:31:58.040 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>on I think it was like twenty or twenty five pounds.

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't you know. We even joked about it when

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I interviewed him. It wasn't all just like McDonald's and

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>pizza and all that stuff. It was you know, he

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>did it the right way and made sure that that

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 1>was a priority. So you give him credit there, and

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>you know that's the type of guy that you want

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to see succeed. I'll also say this, and you guys

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>may agree with me. If this defense is going to

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>be special this year and if they're gonna rek havioc,

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that happens unless Leonard Williams has a

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>very disruptive season on that defensive line. You think I

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>can't put it all on Leo. I'm gonna actually look

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>at the linebackers. There's a little preview for you. When

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I look at the defensive line, I say, listen, your

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator, you're looking at the Jets defense line. Who

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>are you focusing on? To me, what's the development development

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>of ninety seven Nathan Shepard? How early can he contribute six?

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Like you talked about, Henry Anderson's got some starting experience

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in the league. What is he going to give you?

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>And then finally, Big Steve McClendon, who was a dependable

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>run stuffer for this team, was out a lot during

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>training camp. Are the Jets going to have to depend

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>on Mike Panel in that position? So, and you mentioned Fatakasi,

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine he becomes part of that rotation. But

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>for Leonard, yes, he's got to do some certain things

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to take the next step, but he needs some help

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>up there too. And this is a line that is

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>in major transition. I think that has been kind of

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>lost in translation here where we're talking about. Okay, Sheldon

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Richardson has gone, uh, David snax Harrison has been gone

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years, Mohammed Wokers is now in

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay, and things like that. This line, this is

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of moving parts right now. I'm not saying

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>there isn't a lot of time, there isn't talent there.

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>There is talent there, but there are moving parts. And

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>when I say disruptive for Leonard, I mean that came

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth too. He even admitted that. You know,

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>he said he wore down last year. That's a great point.

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Looked in the mirror, said I gotta, I gotta, I

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>gotta stay law pad level is coming up late in

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the game, absolutely, and we know I remember right at

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the season last year, I think it

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 1>was late and can't remember he nicked up his risk

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>week two of the preseason and in the Motor City.

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>In the Motor City, So think about that, Right, you're

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a defensive linemen. You play with your hands. If your

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>wrist are in a percent, that's gonna give you an

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.479
<v Speaker 1>issue there first and foremost. And naturally, when you're playing

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>in the three man front, your guys more often than

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>not aren't going to have those outrageous sack numbers. Is

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe you have when you're playing in the forty three.

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not just measuring his success based on those

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>sack totals. Obviously you'd like to see a little bit

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>more than what he ended up with a year ago.

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But I do agree with what you said. It is

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>going to be incumbent upon those other guys, because if

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>those other guys are taking up more of the priority

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>from the offensive line, it's gonna allow guys like Leo

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 1>to make plays some of those linebackers as well. But

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>being disruptive certainly is going to set a nice tone.

0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Great point. Let's talk about the let let's talk about

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>these guys now, the middle linebackers, the outside linebackers. Darrenly

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>said he's the best shape of his life. Todd Bowlds

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 1>is expecting big things from this guy. He's now one

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>of the play callers on this defense, a role that

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>he did. He served a little bit last year, but

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>now he's the main guy. Avery Williamson signed in the offseason.

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Tackling machine, that's what he's been called. What how How

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>are these guys gonna Jael? That's another big question. What

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>do you make of the inside guys? Then we'll get

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>out to the outside guys and behind them. And one

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of the stars of the preseason was Nevill Hewittt And

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>with Kevin Pierre Lewis suspended for the first week of

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the season, could Neville he would be on this team

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.439
<v Speaker 1>come week one. I think it's fascinating what's gonna happen

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 1>in the inside linebacker position. He's another guy like Dan

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>was talking about, Hey, listen, Leo has gotta be disruptive.

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people would say Darren Lee's

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.839
<v Speaker 1>gotta be disruptive at the inside linebacker position. The other

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>thing is Tomorrow Davis said a great year last year.

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Now you would consider him, uh good linebacker, not a

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>great linebacker, but he had a very good year last year.

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Enter Avery Williamson. What is he going to give you

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>in his first year? And how are those two guys

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>going to work together? Darrenly is working with a new

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:19.760
<v Speaker 1>guy for a third consecutive season. It was David Harris

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>that it was Demario. Now, enter Avery Williams. For the

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Jets to take the next step defensively, they have to

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>be better against the run. We'll talk about the secondary

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>here in a moment, but for the Jets to be

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a top half, top ten defense, they gotta be better

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>against the run. They were middle of the pack last year.

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Well on that note, and jeez, I agree with you

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a million percent here. One of the other options that

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>you have defensively too, If you want a zero one

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:49.439
<v Speaker 1>on a run defense, you bring another guy into the box,

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>which then, of course, in the past, would leave you

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>vulnerable in past past defense. But you got your main

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Johnson and got another lockdown back there. Maybe that sorts

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.320
<v Speaker 1>itself out a little bit. You began asking the question,

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 1>how will those two inside linebackers, Jail, I'll ask another

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 1>one when do they jail? How long does it take

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>them to jail? Because spotlight is on them. You're a

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 1>thousand percent right, Avery Williamson. Is he gonna be a

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>three down linebacker with this team? That was one of

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the questions when they signed, right, is this the guy

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna be on the field all three downs? Is

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>he going to be vulnerable in pass coverage? Which we

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 1>love our guy to Mario, Okay, we loved our guy,

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 1>David Harris, right, but other teams knew, especially when you

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>have those backs out of the backfield, use zero in

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>on them and try to get him in coverage because

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 1>there was a little bit of a vulnerability there. Darren Lee.

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>And he's got to have a huge year. We know it.

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot on his plate. Now it's year number three,

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>your first round pick. I still want to see a

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>guy that needs to convince me that his best position

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>is playing on the inside. If you know what I mean.

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>He's a speedy linebacker. You thought that when they drafted him,

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>he would be a guy coming off the outside providing

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>some of that pass rush. Is he gonna kind of

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>get lost among the giants a little bit playing on

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the inside. That's what I'm looking to see here that

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna change. Todd is always in division and

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>playing inside, so that's gonna be where he's at. Performance

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>has to step up, then, I think from what you

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>said about when these two guys will jel, I'm not.

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure the answer to that, but I think

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:20.919
<v Speaker 1>what helps is the fact that they're close in age

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and they talked about it. They hang out outside the complex,

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>are very close outside the complex, whereas Darrelly and Dave

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Harris and Lee and to Mario Davis didn't really hang

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 1>out home, and those guys were exactly So now let's

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>we were in the inside, let's go to the outside. Now,

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 1>last year is Jordan Jenkins and Josh Martin for the

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:42.280
<v Speaker 1>majority of the season, assuming those guys are on the roster,

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>who are the guys behind those guys now, because for

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the majority of camp, Brandon Copeland who was signed in

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.439
<v Speaker 1>the off season, and Frankie Luvu ran with the second team.

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 1>So will I think it's very interesting, Well, the Jets

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 1>put their stock and someone like Frankie Luvu who's an

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 1>undrafted guy, where as last year David Bass and Obum

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>watch them too. Other guys on the bubble. We're on

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>this team last year and David Bass had two sacks

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.800
<v Speaker 1>in the first two weeks here, right, Well, Frankie Louvu,

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>for one thing, you're not gonna see the field a

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>lot if you're gonna make the bone headed mistakes with

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 1>the penalties like that that coaches won't tolerate that. But unfortunately, fortunately, unfortunately,

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>however you want to describe it. We're sitting here now

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>almost at the end of the preseason, and it's still

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of the same conversation that we had at the

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.320
<v Speaker 1>beginning of there's playing time to be had for the

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>outside linebackers, and I don't think we have clarity yet.

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't think that we've sorted anything out

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.720
<v Speaker 1>because they're still playing time to be earned for whoever

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.320
<v Speaker 1>goes out there and deserves it. You much as mentioned

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.359
<v Speaker 1>David Bess, he was second on the team last year

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and sex a little bit banged up this summer. Headsn't

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>seemed to get a long look. Maybe that's going to

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>change here. Uh, well, we're at the end of the

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>preseason right now. I have no idea how that's gonna look.

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>When you go to sub packages, who who are you

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>using on the outside. I would say again, pencil in

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Jordan and Josh Martin again, pencil the man as you started. Yeah,

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and then what happens from there as far as your

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>sub packages are concerned, I'm not sure. And Loronzo Maldin

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.359
<v Speaker 1>is another guy we didn't mention. We didn't mention Della

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Donna Hue either. And you talked about special teams, Well,

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Copeland was a special team's ace for the Lions

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>when he was there. Della donni Hue, what can he

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>do on special teams this last year? Della donni? He

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>only played four games and then he got her. He

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>was special teams against the Jaguars, which Paul Puzzle wasn't he.

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>So outside linebacker is definitely a spot that I think

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of jess fans will have their eye on.

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>But now let's moved back to the secondary here. Similar

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to what E said about the receivers is do you

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>have the four? Then you go from there? For for me,

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>just talking about the corners, it seems like you have

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Trumaine Johnson, Morris Claybore, buster screen and then where do

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you go from there? Because someone like Perry Nicker said

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>he flashed early on in camp that he had the

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 1>hammy tweak, he missed a couple of weeks. What's gonna

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>happen with him? What's gonna happen with Derek Bones Jones,

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 1>who was another flashing camp And then like you said,

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>he it might just come down to special teams because

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>someone like Darryl Roberts and Justin Burns, they were the

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>gunners last year on this Jets team. Ferry Nickerson showed

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>enough to me earlier that's he's a pencil guy. Yeah,

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't even mess with throwing him

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>on the practice squad. Yeah he's here, He's gonna last

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>on your practice practice. Yeah he should enough. He looks

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>like he could. He really could be something down the

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>line for this team, and hopefully, you know, he gets

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>back in the mix. Now is the you know, on

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the side of caution. I guess with Nickerson because at

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the hamstring injury. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Caught

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>In Bones Jones has made a nice um case for himself,

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and you mentioned Justin Burrs. He's a former fourth round

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 1>pick I believe out on c State. And you know,

0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Darryl Roberts the guy who's running with the once not

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>too long ago. So yeah, it's gonna be interesting how

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>that all shakes out. I can't remember a time when

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the secondary from top to bottom was this talent. Didn't

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>had this much depth for this team, right, because in

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 1>the past you had you know, everybody thinks back to

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the Rex days. Okay, when they went to the two

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 1>championship games. You had Rieves and Crow there's your corners,

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 1>high caliber players. Of course, you know, you go back

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>even earlier in the two thousand's there when you have

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that Aaron Glenn Marcus Coleman tandem and they were really

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>good for a little bit there, right, Kings is a

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>nickelbag who was outstanding, you know what I mean. So,

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>but then when you factor in the safeties, and that's

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>what really I mean, if you weren't excited ready by

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the corners, you talk about these safeties and when you

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>talk about Leonard Williams, we talked about Darren Lee, guys

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>who now you want to see them that next year?

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 1>What they do I mean, my goodness to me, at

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the top of the list of these two safeties, okay,

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the leap that they could potentially take from your and

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>year one wasn't bad. Year one to year two, we

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>might be talking about a couple of Pro Bowlers or

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>All pros. I mean, they have that kind of potential,

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>and that could set a tone big time, not just

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>for the secondary, but for the rest of that defense

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and cover up maybe some deficiencies you have up there

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>in the front seven. The one thing about the safeties

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that I will say is that I'm very interested to

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>see how Marcus may how much he plays in the preseason,

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 1>because he really hasn't practiced a whole lot. I mean,

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.399
<v Speaker 1>he has practiced, but he hasn't ran with the first

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>team for the entirety of training camp. This is a

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>guy that got hurt in the season finale. You hate

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>those seasons. He didn't do a whole lot in the spring,

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>but he said that he still worked out with the team.

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>So I want to know, is there any kind of

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 1>we talked about Darren Lee and Avery Williams and Jelly.

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I know those guys are closed, but do they have

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:49.959
<v Speaker 1>to do it on the fields but for a couple

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>of games before they can really start making those leaps

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>and bounds that you hope to see. I'd be more

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>concerned if this was the rookie year as opposed to

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>ye or two. You know, they gained valuable experience. List

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 1>they basically played the whole season. It's the same defense.

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not worried about those guys. I really think, and

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I know him like bouncing out of my seat here

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the high chair. By the way, sky is the limit

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>for these two, it really is. The sky is the limit.

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. As I said before here about

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Jamal is he's kind of the next factor because you

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 1>can move him around and play him different positions. He's

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:30.359
<v Speaker 1>labeled as a safety, but a lot of times you'll

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>be looking at him in the box and you can

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 1>consider him that extra linebacker. But I think he's gonna

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>take steps as far as coverage is concerned, and that

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:44.399
<v Speaker 1>goes back to his eyes and diagnosing and knowing what's

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:48.279
<v Speaker 1>coming at him. I anticipate he's gonna play faster. He's

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>in better shape this year, trimmed down. I don't think.

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't want to say Jamal was bolted

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>up last year, but it's his body looks better in

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 1>terms of body, and he looks little bit quicker. Well,

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>he said that he he now is a personal chef

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 1>who's helped him all with him. You don't person, No, no, no,

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. And at this I'll tell you what And I,

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like Dan said, you gotta like the depths the safety

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>spot too. You have Doug Middleton get valuable reps throughout

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the spring when May was out. J J. Wilcox is

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 1>a guy who started a lot of ballgames in the

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>National Football League. Ron Tess will start the season, but

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>if he comes back, he's one of your special teams

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>core players. I like to say you're missing t Brooks

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>because last year he was a guy that was a

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>special team's ace. Yeah, he so got value. You know,

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that's another question. How many safeties here keeping? I think

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you're going for you are going for. I think you're

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>going forward because last year you had three on the

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 1>field that multiple time. Ultimately, if you go for it

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 1>probably comes down to J. J. Wilcox or Terence Brooks, right,

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>because Dogy Middleton was getting those getting one. I would

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.240
<v Speaker 1>lean towards Terrence Brooks. I'm not asking to make a prediction.

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm just asking if you think that's what it's gonna

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:09.839
<v Speaker 1>come down to. I do think it's come down to Yeah,

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and I think I mean, maybe I'm wrong here. This

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 1>is looking down, looking down the tunnel a little bit.

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 1>But Brandon Bryant, I think maybe that's a potential peace

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Squad guy, So you no doubt, I think, But I

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>think it does come down to those two guys. You know,

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 1>we forgot we forgot the calculator, like we need the

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>fancy to tally up fifty three here because I'm not

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 1>at the positions and I'm like, wait a second, we're

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<v Speaker 1>probably up to putting like sixty guys on the team here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's tough, and when you get to those I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's cliche, but when you get to those last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of spots of the roster, those are the toughest decisions, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's gonna be movement that bottom three four, not

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<v Speaker 1>just with the Jets, but with the thirty one other teams.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when you check out the waiver wire and

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<v Speaker 1>who's available and who you shift into the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why Mike mccagnet and his staff, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want that job. At the end of the week, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want that job. Finalizing this roster will be a

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<v Speaker 1>few surprises. There always are, you know, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>goes into that as far as getting some other guys reps,

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<v Speaker 1>financial considerations, and what is out there on waivers. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much a wrap here. You have any any last point?

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<v Speaker 1>Said you trying to get out there? No, I just

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<v Speaker 1>wish the Thursday night game in Philadelphia was maybe Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>or something. It's college football has a season take off.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of games. Is there a great Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night I like to I like to Purdue Northwestern game.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a big boiler America. Yeah, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>the Northwestern won ten games last year. That's a nice matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing else the NFL. I love my job and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be in Philly pumped to be there. Maybe I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>mind moving it up to Wednesday next year. Maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>put it in a request to put the Jets game

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<v Speaker 1>on one screen North QUESTERNT another could make that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have like the apt it, whatever channel the

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:02.839
<v Speaker 1>game is, I need to watch everything on. That's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all we got. That was the roster breakdown. E

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<v Speaker 1>A Dan Browser and E G.