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Speaker 1: a Jets three sixty production. Ethan Greenberg and Erik Allen

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Speaker 1: here in studio on the Official Jets Podcast. So we

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Speaker 1: were in here earlier today and we recorded a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't really earlier today, It was earlier today. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to believe. We recorded the podcast The Day's Round together.

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Speaker 1: We recorded a podcast talking about Jets Eagles Thursday night

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Speaker 1: pre season finale, and then mid afternoon, Teddy Bridgewater was traded.

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Speaker 1: So we're back in studio. And for those who don't

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Speaker 1: know if I'm breaking news to you, well, frankly you

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Speaker 1: should check Twitter more often if you have a Twitter.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't have Twitter and you're I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I probably can get on Instagram too. Write the trade. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and myself is that Teddy Bridgewater is now a member

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Speaker 1: of the New Orleans Saints. The Jets traded Bridgewater and

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Speaker 1: a six round pick in two thousand nineteen, they got

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Speaker 1: you think about the deal? I'm not shocked that Teddy

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Speaker 1: the destination because the Saints obviously have a future Hall

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Speaker 1: I would imagine, and I wrote this just now, that

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Speaker 1: an NFL podcast, And just looking at the trade is

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Speaker 1: that why does it happen? Because Sam Donald frankly had

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Speaker 1: I think to get a third round pick for someone

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Speaker 1: I think it's very it's a very good deal. And

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Speaker 1: almost as excited about Legged a year ago. This guy

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Speaker 1: who played him big time games at Clemson, but his

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Speaker 1: rookie season was watched away last year because of injury,

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Speaker 1: and the coaches were high on him all right. So

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Speaker 1: if you could keep those two guys healthy, that's a

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Speaker 1: heck of a foundation. Then those other wild cards, whether

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Speaker 1: it's Tomlinson and whether it's Sterling Wolford. You know, these

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Speaker 1: are guys who have already been through the wars in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They have experience. They're not flashy type players,

435
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Speaker 1: but they play a role for you. And I'm not

436
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Speaker 1: afraid to get a little dirty there and mix it

437
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Speaker 1: up there in the trenches, which nowadays you can still

438
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: use the tight end. I know it's old school, but

439
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: sometimes those tight ends blocking in there, they still serve

440
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Speaker 1: a purpose. A couple of points here, Tomlinson is the

441
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Speaker 1: best blocker of the bunch you mentioned it before, Herndon

442
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Speaker 1: has is shown to be explosive out of breaks. The

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Speaker 1: smooth route runner Leg is the guy who you might

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Speaker 1: make in her argument, even though he hasn't had a

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Speaker 1: lot of game action other than a couple of preseason games,

446
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Speaker 1: that he might have the best hands of them all.

447
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Speaker 1: He just gotta stay healthy. Clive Walford is really taken

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Speaker 1: off um too. And then Nate sternly underrated athlete in

449
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Speaker 1: his own right. He can get down the field. So

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Speaker 1: they liked this group. And finally, Sam Donald like throwing

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Speaker 1: to the tight ends. He uses the tight ends for

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Speaker 1: anybody to watch the practice that you can watch usc

453
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Speaker 1: you watch practice, it's some of the games. Listen, this

454
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Speaker 1: guy is gonna throw to the big guys early and off,

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Speaker 1: and he likes those matchups. Tight end is, let's be honest,

456
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Speaker 1: especially in those short to intermediate routes that could serve

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Speaker 1: as a great security blanket for a quarterback. And as

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Speaker 1: he said, I mean, Sam Donald, we've already seen it

459
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Speaker 1: so far here in camping in preseason. He's not afraid

460
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Speaker 1: to go to them. And I know that the tight

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Speaker 1: end is almost becoming at least the way traditionally the

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Speaker 1: tight end position was. It's almost becoming fossilized in the

463
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Speaker 1: NFL now. But you know, because these these tight ends

464
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Speaker 1: are just such freakish athletes. They're like former basketball players,

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Speaker 1: most of them. They can just get up and down

466
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Speaker 1: the field, work the scenes and stuff. But I like

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Speaker 1: this group, and I think there's some wild cards. Would

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Speaker 1: it surprise either of you if the Jets kept four

469
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Speaker 1: tight ends? No, it would me. Four four four to

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Speaker 1: me is a little bit only because I'm not convinced

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Speaker 1: that a couple of those guys that we discussed might

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Speaker 1: be best suited for special teams. And that's something that

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Speaker 1: they would, I think have to do. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you're keeping four tight ends, they're playing teams at least

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Speaker 1: a couple of them. All Right, So I guess we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens come September one. I didn't say it's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen, right, I'm just saying, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: I will tell So now we gotta go to the

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Speaker 1: big Uglies a lie and assuming everything's okay on the

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Speaker 1: health front, Calvin Beacham, James Carpenter, Spencer Long, Brian Winters,

481
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Speaker 1: Brandon Shell, those are your five right there. Now, behind

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Speaker 1: those guys, what happens because this is a group where

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Speaker 1: where I don't know about you dead or U E A.

484
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Speaker 1: But when I watch in a game, I can't really

485
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Speaker 1: tell you that guy is having a good game, that

486
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: guy is having a good game because I'm not down

487
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: there understanding everyone's blocks. Depth is a concern, right, I

488
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: think the depth is a question. I like Spencer Long.

489
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Speaker 1: I think that's an upgrade at the center position. That

490
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Speaker 1: and one guy especially is center. I mean it's cliche,

491
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Speaker 1: but that could be the glue to hold the line together.

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Speaker 1: And I think that he'll be invaluable for this team.

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Speaker 1: Case in point, if you are also going with a

494
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Speaker 1: young quarterback, it's going to be incumbent upon the offensive

495
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Speaker 1: line to make his life as manageable as possible as

496
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Speaker 1: he's still learning the ropes. And I know that a

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Speaker 1: lot of the so called experts want to say, well,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't start Sam Donald week one because you have,

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Speaker 1: you know, an offensive line which isn't considered upper echelon

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I don't buy that for a second.

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00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: I actually think this group, this is the big if

502
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Speaker 1: if they stay healthy, it's gonna be a lot better

503
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: than people given credit for and better then they've shown

504
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: maybe thus far in the preseason because they haven't been

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00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: together much in the preseason because of various things. And

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00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, losing Egellana was big just because he served

507
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Speaker 1: that purposes, that swing tackle. There in the backup. You

508
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Speaker 1: have a couple of other guys, but I mean, it's

509
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: so rare that you're gonna go throughout the entire six

510
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: team games which just the same five guys playing. You're

511
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: gonna need that depth. But remember, just because they're not

512
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Speaker 1: on the roster now to con be on somebody else's roster,

513
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be cuts happening thirty one other teams

514
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Speaker 1: that maybe you find a valuable guy, maybe because a

515
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Speaker 1: cap reasons he gets cut, boom, maybe they pounced on him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Jets is the only team in

517
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Speaker 1: the National Football League who would like to increase their

518
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: death doubt across that offensive line. And to the point here,

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00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: I think much was made what happened and Washington because

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Harrison, who was in for Brian Winters, got beat

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Speaker 1: on the and then yes, and then got beat on

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Speaker 1: a sack as well, and he was filling in for

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Speaker 1: Calvin Beacham. I think bottom line is those five could

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Speaker 1: be a solid group. Um, they gotta stay together. You

525
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Speaker 1: mentioned you're talking about depth. The guy who jumps out

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Speaker 1: at me throughout training camp, who is likely to stay

527
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Speaker 1: at this point in time, You'd have to say Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Harrison because they were using him as a second team center,

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Speaker 1: and then when Winners did go down during the preseason,

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Speaker 1: they gave him an opportunity to play at right guard.

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Speaker 1: I know he gave the sack, gave up the sack quality.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy who comes into focus for this team

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Speaker 1: right now because, like Dan mentioned, but Gelana is not there.

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Speaker 1: He was the valuable swing tackle. Now quality, he's probably

535
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Speaker 1: first up at both left and right tackle. Uh dacoted Osier.

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00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: I think the duped on the inside. It's probably a

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00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: little bit better right now where the where the Jets stand.

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00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: But again, what's gonna happen over the next week, because

539
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Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna have a final fifty three that

540
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: isn't final at all, because they're gonna see what else

541
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Speaker 1: is out there. And I wouldn't be we're talking about surprises,

542
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: would not be surprised at all. If they had another one.

543
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: It's true for all NFL teams. You're fifty three man

544
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: roster is always subject to change on any given day,

545
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Speaker 1: any even moment. Something that Bowls talked about is position

546
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Speaker 1: flex and maybe some of the guys that can play

547
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: tackle and guard will have a little more value than

548
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: someone that is just a guard or just a tackle.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. I wonder what's gonna happen with

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Speaker 1: a guy like Travis Swanson because he's been he's been predominantly,

551
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: he's been the third team center. Now he's a guy

552
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: who's got starting experience, whipped the Lions came over in

553
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: the off season, things like heard much about him. Isn't

554
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: it funny to think about this was a guy they

555
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: signed Spencer Long and then they signed Travis Swansons Like,

556
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: wait a secondy just signed the center. But as you said,

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00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's had starting experience before in

558
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: the league. And they talked about position flex too. But

559
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: most of the time when we've been seeing him out

560
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: there has been but he he has played some guard

561
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: in his career before. So now let's shift to the

562
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Will start up front again,

563
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: just because we were all line. Now let's go d line.

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Speaker 1: This is a different line that I think Jets fans

565
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: are used to seeing it down there. However, the big

566
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: cat is still down there. Lennon Williams. Steve McClendon really

567
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Speaker 1: hasn't practiced for the majority of trading camp, but he's

568
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Speaker 1: the he's one of the guys that's to glue with

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Speaker 1: a lock and he's one of the leaders on this team.

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00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: So what do you make of this group that got

571
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Speaker 1: three players on draft Day? Two of them Nate Shepard

572
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Speaker 1: and fall Arounzo Phadukasi draft picks and then Nate Excuse me,

573
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: Henry Anderson was a seventh round trade and he's someone

574
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Speaker 1: that he's got some first team reps out there. Great

575
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: story Henry Anderson too. I interviewed him for our pregame

576
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Speaker 1: show for the Giants, and you know, and I even

577
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: asked him about it too. But you think about the

578
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: big story and all the coverage with the team of

579
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: a guy coming back from a serious injury was Teddy

580
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: Bridgewater and everything he went through. Henry Anderson, I mean,

581
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: what he went through with the Colts last year. Let's

582
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: be honest. None of us are signing up for that.

583
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Speaker 1: He had a fractured larynx for crying out loud in

584
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: his throat. That's that. That's painful. You know, you don't

585
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: want any part of that. Yeah, just real quick. How

586
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: did that happen? I don't know, but you think when

587
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: he got hurt, he was able to tell someone that

588
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: he was hurt if you injure your throatbox, like you

589
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: think he just had to like point to his neck

590
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: and like make a bunch of no, like no, no,

591
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: no sign. It's not a pleasurable experience, that's for sure.

592
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: But you know, and so he was able to work

593
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: his way back from that. And you know, he was

594
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis when they changed coaches there at the end

595
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: of the season and they went to a four three defense.

596
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: So he trimmed down a little bit, thinking he have

597
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: to play a little quicker when you're playing in a

598
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: four man front. Then he gets traded here and then

599
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: he's like, what it's like now I'm going into a

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Speaker 1: thirty four where your defensive woman needs to be a

601
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: little bit bigger, you know, gap integrity, that sort of

602
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: thing taken on a couple of blockers. So he put

603
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: on I think it was like twenty or twenty five pounds.

604
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't you know. We even joked about it when

605
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I interviewed him. It wasn't all just like McDonald's and

606
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: pizza and all that stuff. It was you know, he

607
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: did it the right way and made sure that that

608
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: was a priority. So you give him credit there, and

609
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: you know that's the type of guy that you want

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Speaker 1: to see succeed. I'll also say this, and you guys

611
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: may agree with me. If this defense is going to

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00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: be special this year and if they're gonna rek havioc,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that happens unless Leonard Williams has a

614
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: very disruptive season on that defensive line. You think I

615
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: can't put it all on Leo. I'm gonna actually look

616
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Speaker 1: at the linebackers. There's a little preview for you. When

617
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: I look at the defensive line, I say, listen, your

618
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, you're looking at the Jets defense line. Who

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Speaker 1: are you focusing on? To me, what's the development development

620
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: of ninety seven Nathan Shepard? How early can he contribute six?

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Speaker 1: Like you talked about, Henry Anderson's got some starting experience

622
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Speaker 1: in the league. What is he going to give you?

623
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Speaker 1: And then finally, Big Steve McClendon, who was a dependable

624
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: run stuffer for this team, was out a lot during

625
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: training camp. Are the Jets going to have to depend

626
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: on Mike Panel in that position? So, and you mentioned Fatakasi,

627
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: I would imagine he becomes part of that rotation. But

628
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: for Leonard, yes, he's got to do some certain things

629
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Speaker 1: to take the next step, but he needs some help

630
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: up there too. And this is a line that is

631
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: in major transition. I think that has been kind of

632
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: lost in translation here where we're talking about. Okay, Sheldon

633
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: Richardson has gone, uh, David snax Harrison has been gone

634
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, Mohammed Wokers is now in

635
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: Green Bay, and things like that. This line, this is

636
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts right now. I'm not saying

637
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: there isn't a lot of time, there isn't talent there.

638
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: There is talent there, but there are moving parts. And

639
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: when I say disruptive for Leonard, I mean that came

640
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: out of his mouth too. He even admitted that. You know,

641
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: he said he wore down last year. That's a great point.

642
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: Looked in the mirror, said I gotta, I gotta, I

643
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: gotta stay law pad level is coming up late in

644
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: the game, absolutely, and we know I remember right at

645
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season last year, I think it

646
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: was late and can't remember he nicked up his risk

647
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: week two of the preseason and in the Motor City.

648
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: In the Motor City, So think about that, Right, you're

649
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: a defensive linemen. You play with your hands. If your

650
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: wrist are in a percent, that's gonna give you an

651
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 1: issue there first and foremost. And naturally, when you're playing

652
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: in the three man front, your guys more often than

653
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: not aren't going to have those outrageous sack numbers. Is

654
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: maybe you have when you're playing in the forty three.

655
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not just measuring his success based on those

656
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: sack totals. Obviously you'd like to see a little bit

657
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: more than what he ended up with a year ago.

658
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: But I do agree with what you said. It is

659
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: going to be incumbent upon those other guys, because if

660
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: those other guys are taking up more of the priority

661
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: from the offensive line, it's gonna allow guys like Leo

662
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: to make plays some of those linebackers as well. But

663
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: being disruptive certainly is going to set a nice tone.

664
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: Great point. Let's talk about the let let's talk about

665
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: these guys now, the middle linebackers, the outside linebackers. Darrenly

666
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: said he's the best shape of his life. Todd Bowlds

667
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: is expecting big things from this guy. He's now one

668
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: of the play callers on this defense, a role that

669
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: he did. He served a little bit last year, but

670
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: now he's the main guy. Avery Williamson signed in the offseason.

671
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: Tackling machine, that's what he's been called. What how How

672
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: are these guys gonna Jael? That's another big question. What

673
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: do you make of the inside guys? Then we'll get

674
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: out to the outside guys and behind them. And one

675
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: of the stars of the preseason was Nevill Hewittt And

676
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: with Kevin Pierre Lewis suspended for the first week of

677
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: the season, could Neville he would be on this team

678
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: come week one. I think it's fascinating what's gonna happen

679
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: in the inside linebacker position. He's another guy like Dan

680
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: was talking about, Hey, listen, Leo has gotta be disruptive.

681
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would say Darren Lee's

682
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: gotta be disruptive at the inside linebacker position. The other

683
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: thing is Tomorrow Davis said a great year last year.

684
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: Now you would consider him, uh good linebacker, not a

685
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: great linebacker, but he had a very good year last year.

686
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: Enter Avery Williamson. What is he going to give you

687
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: in his first year? And how are those two guys

688
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: going to work together? Darrenly is working with a new

689
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: guy for a third consecutive season. It was David Harris

690
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: that it was Demario. Now, enter Avery Williams. For the

691
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: Jets to take the next step defensively, they have to

692
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: be better against the run. We'll talk about the secondary

693
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: here in a moment, but for the Jets to be

694
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: a top half, top ten defense, they gotta be better

695
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: against the run. They were middle of the pack last year.

696
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: Well on that note, and jeez, I agree with you

697
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: a million percent here. One of the other options that

698
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: you have defensively too, If you want a zero one

699
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: on a run defense, you bring another guy into the box,

700
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: which then, of course, in the past, would leave you

701
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: vulnerable in past past defense. But you got your main

702
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: Johnson and got another lockdown back there. Maybe that sorts

703
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: itself out a little bit. You began asking the question,

704
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: how will those two inside linebackers, Jail, I'll ask another

705
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: one when do they jail? How long does it take

706
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: them to jail? Because spotlight is on them. You're a

707
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: thousand percent right, Avery Williamson. Is he gonna be a

708
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: three down linebacker with this team? That was one of

709
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: the questions when they signed, right, is this the guy

710
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: who's gonna be on the field all three downs? Is

711
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: he going to be vulnerable in pass coverage? Which we

712
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: love our guy to Mario, Okay, we loved our guy,

713
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: David Harris, right, but other teams knew, especially when you

714
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: have those backs out of the backfield, use zero in

715
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: on them and try to get him in coverage because

716
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a vulnerability there. Darren Lee.

717
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: And he's got to have a huge year. We know it.

718
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot on his plate. Now it's year number three,

719
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: your first round pick. I still want to see a

720
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: guy that needs to convince me that his best position

721
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: is playing on the inside. If you know what I mean.

722
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: He's a speedy linebacker. You thought that when they drafted him,

723
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: he would be a guy coming off the outside providing

724
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: some of that pass rush. Is he gonna kind of

725
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: get lost among the giants a little bit playing on

726
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: the inside. That's what I'm looking to see here that

727
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: that's not gonna change. Todd is always in division and

728
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: playing inside, so that's gonna be where he's at. Performance

729
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: has to step up, then, I think from what you

730
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: said about when these two guys will jel, I'm not.

731
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the answer to that, but I think

732
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: what helps is the fact that they're close in age

733
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: and they talked about it. They hang out outside the complex,

734
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: are very close outside the complex, whereas Darrelly and Dave

735
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: Harris and Lee and to Mario Davis didn't really hang

736
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: out home, and those guys were exactly So now let's

737
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: we were in the inside, let's go to the outside. Now,

738
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: last year is Jordan Jenkins and Josh Martin for the

739
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: majority of the season, assuming those guys are on the roster,

740
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: who are the guys behind those guys now, because for

741
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: the majority of camp, Brandon Copeland who was signed in

742
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: the off season, and Frankie Luvu ran with the second team.

743
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: So will I think it's very interesting, Well, the Jets

744
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: put their stock and someone like Frankie Luvu who's an

745
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: undrafted guy, where as last year David Bass and Obum

746
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: watch them too. Other guys on the bubble. We're on

747
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: this team last year and David Bass had two sacks

748
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: in the first two weeks here, right, Well, Frankie Louvu,

749
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: for one thing, you're not gonna see the field a

750
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: lot if you're gonna make the bone headed mistakes with

751
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: the penalties like that that coaches won't tolerate that. But unfortunately, fortunately, unfortunately,

752
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: however you want to describe it. We're sitting here now

753
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: almost at the end of the preseason, and it's still

754
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: kind of the same conversation that we had at the

755
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: beginning of there's playing time to be had for the

756
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: outside linebackers, and I don't think we have clarity yet.

757
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that we've sorted anything out

758
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: because they're still playing time to be earned for whoever

759
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: goes out there and deserves it. You much as mentioned

760
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: David Bess, he was second on the team last year

761
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: and sex a little bit banged up this summer. Headsn't

762
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: seemed to get a long look. Maybe that's going to

763
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: change here. Uh, well, we're at the end of the

764
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: preseason right now. I have no idea how that's gonna look.

765
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: When you go to sub packages, who who are you

766
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: using on the outside. I would say again, pencil in

767
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: Jordan and Josh Martin again, pencil the man as you started. Yeah,

768
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: and then what happens from there as far as your

769
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: sub packages are concerned, I'm not sure. And Loronzo Maldin

770
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: is another guy we didn't mention. We didn't mention Della

771
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: Donna Hue either. And you talked about special teams, Well,

772
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: Brandon Copeland was a special team's ace for the Lions

773
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: when he was there. Della donni Hue, what can he

774
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: do on special teams this last year? Della donni? He

775
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: only played four games and then he got her. He

776
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: was special teams against the Jaguars, which Paul Puzzle wasn't he.

777
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: So outside linebacker is definitely a spot that I think

778
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: a lot of jess fans will have their eye on.

779
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: But now let's moved back to the secondary here. Similar

780
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: to what E said about the receivers is do you

781
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: have the four? Then you go from there? For for me,

782
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: just talking about the corners, it seems like you have

783
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Trumaine Johnson, Morris Claybore, buster screen and then where do

784
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: you go from there? Because someone like Perry Nicker said

785
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: he flashed early on in camp that he had the

786
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: hammy tweak, he missed a couple of weeks. What's gonna

787
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: happen with him? What's gonna happen with Derek Bones Jones,

788
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: who was another flashing camp And then like you said,

789
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: he it might just come down to special teams because

790
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: someone like Darryl Roberts and Justin Burns, they were the

791
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: gunners last year on this Jets team. Ferry Nickerson showed

792
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: enough to me earlier that's he's a pencil guy. Yeah,

793
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't even mess with throwing him

794
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Yeah he's here, He's gonna last

795
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: on your practice practice. Yeah he should enough. He looks

796
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: like he could. He really could be something down the

797
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: line for this team, and hopefully, you know, he gets

798
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: back in the mix. Now is the you know, on

799
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: the side of caution. I guess with Nickerson because at

800
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: the hamstring injury. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Caught

801
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: In Bones Jones has made a nice um case for himself,

802
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: and you mentioned Justin Burrs. He's a former fourth round

803
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: pick I believe out on c State. And you know,

804
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: Darryl Roberts the guy who's running with the once not

805
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: too long ago. So yeah, it's gonna be interesting how

806
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: that all shakes out. I can't remember a time when

807
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: the secondary from top to bottom was this talent. Didn't

808
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: had this much depth for this team, right, because in

809
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: the past you had you know, everybody thinks back to

810
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: the Rex days. Okay, when they went to the two

811
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: championship games. You had Rieves and Crow there's your corners,

812
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: high caliber players. Of course, you know, you go back

813
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: even earlier in the two thousand's there when you have

814
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: that Aaron Glenn Marcus Coleman tandem and they were really

815
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: good for a little bit there, right, Kings is a

816
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: nickelbag who was outstanding, you know what I mean. So,

817
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: but then when you factor in the safeties, and that's

818
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: what really I mean, if you weren't excited ready by

819
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: the corners, you talk about these safeties and when you

820
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: talk about Leonard Williams, we talked about Darren Lee, guys

821
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: who now you want to see them that next year?

822
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: What they do I mean, my goodness to me, at

823
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: the top of the list of these two safeties, okay,

824
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: the leap that they could potentially take from your and

825
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: year one wasn't bad. Year one to year two, we

826
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: might be talking about a couple of Pro Bowlers or

827
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: All pros. I mean, they have that kind of potential,

828
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: and that could set a tone big time, not just

829
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: for the secondary, but for the rest of that defense

830
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: and cover up maybe some deficiencies you have up there

831
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: in the front seven. The one thing about the safeties

832
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: that I will say is that I'm very interested to

833
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: see how Marcus may how much he plays in the preseason,

834
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: because he really hasn't practiced a whole lot. I mean,

835
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: he has practiced, but he hasn't ran with the first

836
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: team for the entirety of training camp. This is a

837
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: guy that got hurt in the season finale. You hate

838
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: those seasons. He didn't do a whole lot in the spring,

839
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: but he said that he still worked out with the team.

840
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: So I want to know, is there any kind of

841
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: we talked about Darren Lee and Avery Williams and Jelly.

842
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: I know those guys are closed, but do they have

843
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 1: to do it on the fields but for a couple

844
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: of games before they can really start making those leaps

845
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: and bounds that you hope to see. I'd be more

846
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: concerned if this was the rookie year as opposed to

847
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: ye or two. You know, they gained valuable experience. List

848
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: they basically played the whole season. It's the same defense.

849
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about those guys. I really think, and

850
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: I know him like bouncing out of my seat here

851
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: the high chair. By the way, sky is the limit

852
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: for these two, it really is. The sky is the limit.

853
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: That's a good point. As I said before here about

854
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: Jamal is he's kind of the next factor because you

855
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: can move him around and play him different positions. He's

856
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: labeled as a safety, but a lot of times you'll

857
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: be looking at him in the box and you can

858
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: consider him that extra linebacker. But I think he's gonna

859
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: take steps as far as coverage is concerned, and that

860
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: goes back to his eyes and diagnosing and knowing what's

861
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: coming at him. I anticipate he's gonna play faster. He's

862
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: in better shape this year, trimmed down. I don't think.

863
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to say Jamal was bolted

864
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: up last year, but it's his body looks better in

865
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: terms of body, and he looks little bit quicker. Well,

866
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: he said that he he now is a personal chef

867
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: who's helped him all with him. You don't person, No, no, no,

868
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't. And at this I'll tell you what And I,

869
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: like Dan said, you gotta like the depths the safety

870
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: spot too. You have Doug Middleton get valuable reps throughout

871
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: the spring when May was out. J J. Wilcox is

872
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: a guy who started a lot of ballgames in the

873
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: National Football League. Ron Tess will start the season, but

874
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: if he comes back, he's one of your special teams

875
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: core players. I like to say you're missing t Brooks

876
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: because last year he was a guy that was a

877
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: special team's ace. Yeah, he so got value. You know,

878
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: that's another question. How many safeties here keeping? I think

879
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: you're going for you are going for. I think you're

880
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: going forward because last year you had three on the

881
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: field that multiple time. Ultimately, if you go for it

882
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: probably comes down to J. J. Wilcox or Terence Brooks, right,

883
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: because Dogy Middleton was getting those getting one. I would

884
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: lean towards Terrence Brooks. I'm not asking to make a prediction.

885
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm just asking if you think that's what it's gonna

886
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: come down to. I do think it's come down to Yeah,

887
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: and I think I mean, maybe I'm wrong here. This

888
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: is looking down, looking down the tunnel a little bit.

889
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: But Brandon Bryant, I think maybe that's a potential peace

890
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: Squad guy, So you no doubt, I think, But I

891
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: think it does come down to those two guys. You know,

892
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: we forgot we forgot the calculator, like we need the

893
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: fancy to tally up fifty three here because I'm not

894
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: at the positions and I'm like, wait a second, we're

895
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: probably up to putting like sixty guys on the team here.

896
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: It's it's tough, and when you get to those I mean,

897
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: it's cliche, but when you get to those last couple

898
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: of spots of the roster, those are the toughest decisions, right,

899
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: And there's gonna be movement that bottom three four, not

900
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: just with the Jets, but with the thirty one other teams.

901
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: And that's when you check out the waiver wire and

902
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: who's available and who you shift into the practice squad.

903
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: And that's why Mike mccagnet and his staff, I don't

904
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: want that job. At the end of the week, I

905
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: don't want that job. Finalizing this roster will be a

906
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: few surprises. There always are, you know, and a lot

907
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: goes into that as far as getting some other guys reps,

908
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: financial considerations, and what is out there on waivers. All right,

909
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: pretty much a wrap here. You have any any last point?

910
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: Said you trying to get out there? No, I just

911
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: wish the Thursday night game in Philadelphia was maybe Wednesday

912
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: or something. It's college football has a season take off.

913
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: There's a couple of games. Is there a great Thursday

914
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: night I like to I like to Purdue Northwestern game.

915
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: He is a big boiler America. Yeah, and I like

916
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: the Northwestern won ten games last year. That's a nice matchup.

917
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: Nothing else the NFL. I love my job and I'll

918
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: be in Philly pumped to be there. Maybe I wouldn't

919
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: mind moving it up to Wednesday next year. Maybe we'll

920
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: put it in a request to put the Jets game

921
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: on one screen North QUESTERNT another could make that happen.

922
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: When you have like the apt it, whatever channel the

923
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: game is, I need to watch everything on. That's all right.

924
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: That's all we got. That was the roster breakdown. E

925
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: A Dan Browser and E G.