1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: I feel like when I'm doing hard things, I actually 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: feel more alive when I'm challenging myself, and I just 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: want to, yeah, showcase to young women that sport can 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: be for life and change your life for the better. 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm grateful that running came into my life and I 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: went from an extremely shy young girl to you know, 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: a moderately shy adult. Now I just felt the need 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: to just do something challenging again. 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: What is going on, Emily Abody? Here? 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: You are listening to episode one eighty three of Hurdle 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: a Well this focused podcast where I connect with everyone 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: from your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: about their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between. 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: We all go through hurdles in life, and my goal 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: through these discussions is to empower you to better navigate 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: yours and move with intention so that you can stride 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: towards your own big potential and of course have some 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: fun along the way. Now, if you can't tell if 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: you're a regular listener to the show, then maybe you 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: notice that my voice isn't in the best shape, and 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: that is because I had a time over the weekend 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 3: at the New York City Marathon, marathon number ten in 23 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 3: the books. What an unbelievable day. The city was electric, 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: and I am feeling just so inspired and motivated and 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: also very very sore, and my voice has definitely been 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: in a better place. I will be bringing you a 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: recap of that day for this week's Hurdle Moment episode. 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: But enough about me, because today I am so elated 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: to bring you my conversation with Laine Flannagan. I say 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: this in that episode, but she needs no introduction in 32 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: my eyes. Just in case, though, you need to get 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: cat up to speed. Selene Flanagan is a four time 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: Olympic runner, a silver medalist, the twenty seventeen New York 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: City Marathon champion, a coach for the Bowerman Track Club, 36 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: and she just finished what they called to be Project Eclipse, 37 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: which was six marathons in forty two days, all of 38 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: them under three hours. Her fastest marathon unbelievable showing here 39 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: in New York, the final one, the big Finale. She 40 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: ran the New York Marathon on Sunday two hours, thirty 41 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: three minutes, thirty two seconds. This interview has been one 42 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: that I have wanted to do forever, but to do 43 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: it here this weekend New York City Marathon weekend live 44 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: in front of an audience thanks to my friends at 45 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: inside Tracker. It was absolutely remarkable and talked about so much, 46 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: not just project eclips and what went into this insane 47 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: undertaking and why she even wanted to go slay six 48 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: marathons back to back in the first place, but also 49 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 3: you know how she got into running, how it was 50 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: a part of her upbringing, what it was like for 51 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: her to excel in college, and the sacrifices that she's 52 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: made along the way to be so great in this sport. 53 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: We also talk about what running is like in these days, 54 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: having her son Jack, her philosophy, on the people that 55 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: she surrounds herself with, how life was impacted over the 56 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: last eighteen months as a result of the coronavirus pandemic, 57 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: her new cookbook co authored with Elise Kopecki, and of 58 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: course we had to talk about her recovery, her fueling 59 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: or her nutrition, all that good stuff. There is just 60 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: so much wisdom, advice, tidbits info about Jolaine Goodness in 61 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: this episode. Now, as I mentioned, this episode is brought 62 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: to you by Inside Tracker. I'm so grateful to share 63 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: this sponsor with Salaine. They're really at the forefront of 64 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: helping us get to better know our bodies. For those 65 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: of you that are unfamiliar, Inside Tracker analyzes your body's 66 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: data to provide you with a clear picture of what's 67 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: going on inside of you and offer you science backed 68 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: recommendations for positive diet and lifestyle changes. 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It's at Hurdle podcast. 92 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: I am over at Emily Abadi and if you've yet 93 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: to rate interview Hurdle, I would love for you just 94 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: to take a couple of quick seconds and do that 95 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 3: for me today. Head on over to Apple Podcasts. Do 96 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: it there or wherever you get your podcasts, and with that, 97 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: prepare to be inspired. 98 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: Let's get to hurdling. 99 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: I'm so amped today to be here with Selene Flanagan. 100 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: I feel as though she needs no introductions. I'm sure 101 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: she hears that line all the time, but I'm going 102 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: to give you just a little like Top Highlights here 103 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, NYC marathon champion feels pretty relevant to what 104 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: we're here for this weekend, for a time Olympian Olympic 105 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: silver medalist. Yesterday you were inducted into the New York 106 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: Roadrunners Hall of Fame. So let's hear it for Slaine. 107 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: Welcome today. So excited to be here with you. I 108 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 3: feel as though a good way for us to kick 109 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: off maybe a little unconventional, but I'm going to need 110 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: some audience participation here. 111 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: So how it's going to. 112 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: Work is, I'm going to give you two options to 113 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: pick which one is true about Shlaine Shelaanne. Please don't participate, Okay, 114 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: you will raise your hand with which one you think 115 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: is correct, and then Slaine will tell us which one 116 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: is correct. 117 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: Oh, dear, hopefully I don't fail this. 118 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Okay, So Shelaine's marathon pr is it either 119 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: too twenty two fifty six or two twenty one fourteen. 120 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: It's two twenty one fourteen for those. 121 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: Berlin at home. Ran it in Berlin a long time ago. 122 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: Fun fact that's less time than it takes to watch 123 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: the New Bond movie, which is much longer than that. 124 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: And also a fun fact, what's the one world major. 125 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: You haven't run, Uh, well, Tokyo. I did my virtual 126 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: Tokyo in Portland, Oregon. But yes, still have to run Tokyo. 127 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 128 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: How many superhero muffins are in Rise and Run the 129 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: new cookbook? 130 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: Is it? 131 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: I don't even know? 132 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: Is it twenty four? It's a lot you are eighteen? 133 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: I saw Sheeline she on that a little bit at least. 134 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: But that's correct. 135 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: And it's a little funny to be honest, because how 136 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: many superhero muffin recipes were in the first cookbook? 137 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: The first one only had one? 138 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so have we have come a very long way 139 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: with a superhero fandom? 140 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 141 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: Okay, next question here, one of Sheleene's parents held the 142 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: world record in the marathon. That's a fun fact fact. 143 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: Is it her mom or her dad? 144 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: Who is my mom? And does anyone know the time? 145 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: This is how far women's distance running has come. 146 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: This is a to me. 147 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Really, anyone have a guess of what time the world 148 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: record was? 149 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: When my mom said it? 150 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: All right? Just just Pilsen, yes. 151 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: Okay, to fifty seven was the world record? Then? 152 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: All right? 153 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: And the last question here, According to Sheelaine's former Bowerman 154 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: Track Club, teammate Amy Cragg. This is the most nervous 155 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: she's ever seen Slane. Was it towing the line in 156 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: Rio or throwing out the first pitch at the Red 157 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: Sox game? 158 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we. I don't even think I need 159 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: to ask them. 160 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: Clearly, I am. 161 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: I am a like a one trick pony athlete. I 162 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: like running, I stick to it. Throwing is not my thing. 163 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: So for sure being in the you know, throwing out 164 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: the first pitch at the Boston Red Sox that was terrifying. Yeah, 165 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: don't ever ask me to do that again. 166 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you're saying a one sport athlete. 167 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: But it seems as though you excel at a lot 168 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: of things. So what is something you don't excel at throwing? 169 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: I really want to be a great dancer, like hip 170 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: hop dancing, but I don't. I don't actually think I'm good. 171 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: In my head, I'm like really good, But I don't know. 172 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: You could ask Aalise or any of my friends that 173 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: are here what I'm not good at, and there's plenty, 174 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: But I wish I was good at dancing. 175 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: That's an answer. 176 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: So you're like a hitch, stay in the safe zone. 177 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: Side to side dancer. 178 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: Probably yeah, yeah, oh wow with the finger guns finger 179 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: gunger guns. 180 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 4: Okay, not good? 181 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: All right, Well, I'd be remiss if I didn't start 182 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: off with the question that everybody is wondering right now, 183 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,359 Speaker 3: which is, how are you doing really. 184 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: At this point five marathons in now? 185 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: Just some context quick before I let you answer this 186 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: For those that may somehow be not aware of what's 187 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: happening here, Selaine is about to run her sixth marathon 188 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: in forty two days here in New York City on Tomorrow, 189 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: November seventh. 190 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: So, Slaine, that sounds really silly, doesn't it right when 191 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: you say that, it sounds silly? 192 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, well, how you doing? 193 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: I am tired. 194 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: I am very tired, But you know what, like this 195 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: has been the most fun I've ever had running genuinely. 196 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: I think what's difficult and why I feel tired right 197 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: now is I was on a roll. I had five 198 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: of them really close back to back, and that kind 199 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: of made it easy because as soon as I finished, 200 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: I would recover and then I've got another one. 201 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 4: I get amped up. But I've had three weeks kind of. 202 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: Lingering to this one, and a lot of people are like, oh, 203 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: that's like this luxurious amount of time you're gonna feel amazing. 204 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: But the reality of my. 205 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: Life is I have a son, I have another job 206 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: of coaching, also writing cookbooks with a lease and the 207 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: launch of our Rise and Run cookbooks. So there's just 208 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: been a lot of other things that have transpired in 209 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: the last three weeks that have enhanced my life. But 210 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: yet also I it's made me tired. So I'm tired, 211 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: But I feel the energy of New York, I don't know, 212 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: is unlike any other marathon. Like you arrive here and 213 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: I get chills, I get butterflies, Like there's something magical 214 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: about this place. So as soon as I got here, 215 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: I feel like the energy has picked up for me personally. 216 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: Plus this place is just you know, I have an 217 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: incredible team here with me. Elise is running her first 218 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: marathon on Sunday as well, so a lot of motivation 219 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: to do a good job here. 220 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: And I know Jack is here as well. You brought 221 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: him over to Central Park the other day. Talk to 222 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: me about how that was being back there in this 223 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: place twenty seventeen, big win and now in such a 224 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: different chapter of your life with him. 225 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I think you saw me yesterday. 226 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: Describe what it was like bringing him out to Central 227 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: Park the other night. I started crying, like immediately, could 228 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: barely talk. 229 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's really. 230 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: Emotional, Like a lot has happened since twenty seventeen for 231 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: all of us, but Jack. We adopted him in twenty 232 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: twenty during the pandemic when a lot of you know, 233 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: really tough moments. But he was like a shining light 234 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: for my husband and I. He really, I mean, he 235 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: made the pandemic not so terrible obviously by having him 236 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: around and being able to spend so much time in 237 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: bond with him, and then to just kind of bring 238 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: him back into what I felt was like a previous 239 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: life and to kind of have my world's intertwine. 240 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 4: It's been. 241 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really emotional because I loved that chapter 242 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: of my life. But I'm actually so much happier now 243 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: having him, and I just love having him around the 244 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: people of the running community. 245 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: I think they're just the best people, to. 246 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Be honest, and so I want him influenced by this community, 247 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: and so bringing him into this has been like made 248 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: everything just so much more meaningful, so much more depth 249 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: to it, just like a lot more emotion in general. 250 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people look to you for 251 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: running advice, but you have done the unthinkable by bringing 252 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: him along with you over the last you know, forty 253 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: one days tomorrow, day forty two. Any hot tip for 254 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: traveling parents that he might need to know, You need. 255 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: A Kate Burrowitz and Colleen Little and Alistko Pecky and 256 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: Courtney White in your life. 257 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 4: They're like the four Moms. 258 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: So you need a team to be able to take 259 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: care of children, and so I would definitely not recommend 260 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: doing this alone. Doing it, like having Jack there with 261 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: me has been great. He's a really good kid, I 262 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: will say that, but he has his moments, he has 263 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: his meltdown so, you know, face plant on the ground. 264 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's. 265 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: Helped having people that really love him and help me 266 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: be able to take care of him. But I think 267 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: we've done things traveling because he's been with us that 268 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't think we would have done. Like when we 269 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: were in Berlin, we went to the zoo, we went 270 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: to the aquarium. I don't think a bunch of adults 271 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: would have probably have gone and done that, but it 272 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: was like it made our experience actually so much better. 273 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: By having him and like forcing us to do things 274 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: that we probably wouldn't have done. 275 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: I love that. I love the aquarium. 276 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like I could see you 277 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: being like, you know what we should do, do that, we 278 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: should hit the aquarium exactly. Well, I've heard you, I mean, 279 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: trust me. In preparing for this, I've listened to too 280 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: many Jeline Flanagan podcast account I've like. 281 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: Watched old Chileane Flanagan videos. 282 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: I you know, I'm just like, you're tired of me already, 283 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: not at. 284 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: All, not at all, But in doing this, I've heard 285 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: you say now that this experience over the last forty 286 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: two days has truly been very different but also really 287 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: beautiful and given you a new appreciation for run. I'd 288 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: love if you could talk to us a little bit 289 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: about that. 290 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, my relationship with running was very different as a 291 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: professional athlete. I think I derived a lot of my 292 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: self worth and confidence in my results, like if you 293 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: work hard, you want it showcase by a win or 294 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: a record, and so there was a lot of like 295 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: I felt like I was carrying around a lot of 296 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: weight to each run to be executed as best as 297 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: it could be. And you know, I was driven constantly 298 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: of like how can I be the best athlete? And 299 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: that was just twenty four hours a day, three hundred 300 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: and sixty five days a year for like almost twenty years. 301 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: So now that that chapter of being a professional athlete 302 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: and being paid to do that, and now that I'm 303 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: not paid to be an athlete, the dynamic has drastically 304 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: shifted and like for the better. Now running is just 305 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: completely my own and I've described it as just being lighter, 306 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: like I don't feel like I'm carrying this weight of 307 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: expectation that genuinely I placed on myself. 308 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: But now it's just a lot. 309 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: More care free. I don't know that it's a better relationship. 310 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: And I've enjoyed being a part of the sport, being 311 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: with the masses. You know, that elite start line is intense. 312 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: I when I furnished Berlin Marathon, my team was like 313 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: how was it? 314 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: I was like it was great. 315 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: I made so many friends out there and they were like, 316 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: what is what are you talking about? And I'm like, 317 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: the elites don't talk to each other when we're out 318 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: running a marathon, and so it's like two and a 319 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: half hours in your own head, which is really dangerous. 320 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: And I was like, I got. 321 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: To meet people and engage and it was just completely different, 322 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: and it just I don't know, I love what I'm 323 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: doing right now, and I'm just like excited that I 324 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: took the leap of faith to do this challenge because 325 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: it's changed how I look at running. 326 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine that in those interactions you had 327 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: like a very mixed bag, Like some people probably completely 328 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: blindsided by the fact that you're running next to them. 329 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: Others like very sure coming up to you. Did anyone 330 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: like just straight up seek you out like a homing 331 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: missile out there? 332 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah. 333 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: Like I've had some very interesting conversations. Like one guy 334 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: rolled up next to me and Lenny's like, dude, your 335 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: kid is so cute. And I was like, I know right. 336 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, Jack's awesome, gave me a fist bump, 337 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: and then ran off. A guy in Chicago rolled up 338 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: next to me and he's like, yo, I got some 339 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: of these energy bites from your cookbook. 340 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 4: You want one? 341 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: And you like pulled out of his sweaty shorts. I'm like, no, no, 342 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm good. He found me at the finish He's like, 343 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: I got next one. 344 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: You want one. 345 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm really good. No, it's I've had 346 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: incredible interactions and genuinely like they're all like, like. 347 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 4: I said, it's just the best people. So yeah, really fun. 348 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: You mentioned twenty years of professional running back in college, 349 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: you were already slaying and excelling beyond at that point. 350 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: Did you know I wanted to go pro because I 351 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: remember I read somewhere that you may have an arts background. 352 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: Yes, that is true. Yeah, I was in high school. 353 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: We had like an art major program. I grew up 354 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: in a little town north of Boston, and it was 355 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: very big in it like arts program, and so a 356 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: lot of people went on to be in theater. Like 357 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: I have really like famous classmates, but everyone's like art heavy. Actually, 358 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: in fact, my best friend lives here and she works 359 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: for MoMA. But anyways, I basically essentially was creating art 360 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: portfolio to go to art school. I knew I would 361 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: run in college. I was recruited to go run for 362 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: the University of North Carolina, but yeah, I didn't know 363 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: really what the landscape of professional running was. I'm like, wow, 364 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: that seems cool, like maybe I can do that, but 365 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know what it would take to actually be 366 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: a professional runner. So in college I'm like, that would 367 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: be all and that would be really cool, but I 368 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: didn't know how that would work out, to be honest. 369 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: So it seems as though you've always found the joy 370 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: in running. 371 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: Would you say that's right? 372 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think I was a. 373 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: Really shy young girl and running gave me a tremendous 374 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: amount of confidence and that felt good. It felt good 375 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: to be good at something. We all want to be 376 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: good at something, and so yeah, I stuck with it 377 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: because I'm like, well, I'm actually good at this. 378 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: So I think like maybe the everyday runner would hear 379 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: this and they're like, wow, that sounds great. But like, 380 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: I don't always find the joy in running. Like some 381 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: days you go out there and you're like, wow, this 382 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: like really sucks. I completely feels like I've never run before. 383 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 4: Well, I have those days too. Well. 384 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 3: I remember yesterday you were saying like I had the 385 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: worst workout ever, and it was like two weeks. 386 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: Ago and you were like, I don't know what we're 387 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: going to do when we have to get to New York. 388 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I had a really terrible workout with some 389 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: of the Bowerman lead athletes. That I've been kind of 390 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: like hopping in their workouts, and I was trying to 391 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: chop it up to being six forty five in the 392 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: morning and like pouring rain and. 393 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: Such, but no, I felt terrible. But we all have 394 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 4: those days. 395 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: And literally one week later I went to go do 396 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: a workout with that crew six forty five in the morning, 397 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: and I felt completely different. Athletes, So you just have 398 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: to kind of ride the highs and lows, And there 399 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: are some days I get out there, I'm like, have 400 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: I ever run before? I feel terrible, But I feel 401 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: like one thing I've learned during the pandemic is like 402 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: mood follows action, Like you you don't always have to 403 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: be motivated to actually get out there, like you get 404 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: out there to then get motivated. 405 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: It's been kind of like the manta. 406 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: I saw that you share that in Rise and Run 407 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: as well. 408 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 3: I feel like for those individuals that those days really 409 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: string together is kind of when it can really feel 410 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 3: like a hurdle that's just you're unable to get over. 411 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 3: So beyond riding the highs and lows, what actionable advice 412 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: can you offer to someone who has who struggles making 413 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: like regular movement a regular habit. 414 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I genuinely believe like we all have 415 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: a movement that speaks to us, and it's not necessarily 416 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: running like that has happens to me, be my like 417 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: love language like movement, you know, for my dad, now 418 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: it's it's biking. And but I also do believe in 419 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: like a good variety because then it makes you appreciate 420 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: when you do get to go for a run. So 421 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: it's just being consistently active. It doesn't have to always 422 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: be the same sport. But I do believe that we 423 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: drive like a connection to some type of movement, like 424 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: it can be danced, and some people thrive off of 425 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: doing it alone. Some people thrive off of like group 426 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: environments like now. You know, for years, I could do 427 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: a lot of training by my own and be completely. 428 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: Fine and enjoy it. 429 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: But now it's like if I don't have someone to 430 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: run with, I'm just it's not really my thing. I 431 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: enjoy being in an environment where I'm talking and then 432 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm engaging. I look at it as like social time now, 433 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: and I think especially with like people who are working 434 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: a lot and like parents, like meeting up with girlfriends 435 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: and engaging over a run and there's like a special bond. 436 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why it is, but I have this 437 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: seri that when you don't actually have to make eye contact, 438 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: people will like pour their heart out to you and 439 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: tell you the craziest stuff. So like on runs, I'm 440 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: always like, wow, like that was really insightful, and just 441 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: because I feel like the lack of eye contact actually 442 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: allows people to open up and maybe the movement makes 443 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: them more free to share. 444 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: So for the rest of the podcast, I'm actually definably 445 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: not going to stare this way and not look at Slaine. 446 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: We've heard it called before, the Slaine Landagan effect. I 447 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: think they called it in New York Times. You mentioned 448 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: Barrum and track Club. Obviously a coach over there right now. 449 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 3: We all, I think, as individuals, can reflect upon excellent 450 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: coaches and mentors that we've had in our life. But 451 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: these athletes that you train, they truly truly look to 452 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: you as a coach as a mentor. But I'm sure 453 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: for you you also learn so much from them. 454 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 2: So if you think about. 455 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: Maybe some of the best takeaways that you've had so 456 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 3: far in your time coaching since you I'll use these 457 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: quotes like retired because we've talked about what we're doing here. 458 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: What have you learned from your athletes? 459 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm going to be forever learning from them. 460 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: But now that we've you know, I've flipped from being 461 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: where they are to now where I sit. In my view, 462 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: I feel like what I've learned is like just to 463 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: be a little bit more compassionate towards them, and like 464 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: some of the stressors that they go through, it's not 465 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: necessarily the physical stressors. It's more of like their mental 466 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: health that I'm learning that they sometimes need more of 467 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: the mental health like and help than they do the 468 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: actual physical Like anyone can write up the workouts and 469 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: I believe, you know, running is not super complicated, but 470 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: I do believe that it's become more prevalent to help 471 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: address the mental side and mental component to have them 472 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: get to that next level. I think that's been neglected 473 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: for a long time, and so I'm learning that I 474 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: have to not just check in like, oh, how's your 475 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: body feel. 476 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: Today, well like how do you feel? 477 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: Like ah, totality of the person, and I think, again 478 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: that has been neglected, and so I'm learning to, you know, 479 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: make sure that we approach each athlete is like their 480 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: whole life, not and like them as a whole person, 481 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: not just them that as an athlete. 482 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 4: If that makes sense. 483 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think like going back to the idea 484 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 3: of the effect, would you want to do you want 485 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 3: to tell us what the schleth I don't know, you. 486 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: Can call it Lindsay Krause she lives here. 487 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: No that that article, like it made me chuckle because 488 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just being me and she like 489 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: makes me sound really cool, and I'm like, I'm not 490 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: really that cool, but she. 491 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I just I just believe that. 492 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: If we invest in other people, it can only elevate us. 493 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: So and then when someone else has success, that is 494 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: also your success because you contributed to the success. And 495 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: there's plenty of room for people to share and to 496 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: be successful. 497 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: Like it's just it's fun to sho I hear that joy. 498 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's super fun to share that joy. I'll 499 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: never forget. And uh, there was a research study that 500 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: was released that actually talked exactly about that. It talked 501 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: about the benefits that you get as an athlete by 502 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: lifting others up as you're aunt like literally in the 503 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 3: act of it. And I believe I read that study 504 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: very conveniently right before the twenty eighteen Boston Marathon, a 505 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: great time for Selene and I both, And I was 506 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: out there struggle city, like drenched. I think I was 507 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 3: wearing a black trash bag. It was very like, very 508 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: chic and just running by people. I'm so miserable, and 509 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, you're doing great, doing so well, And I 510 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 3: mean that day, even for you, it totally came into play. 511 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're talking about my my potty break. 512 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 3: I mean like I'm like hinting at that, but like 513 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 3: boasting others up has always seemed to play you well 514 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: for you. 515 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: So I feel like dez owes me, you know, a 516 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: big pat on the back because she I had to 517 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: make a pit stop during the marathon in twenty eighteen 518 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: when we were all experiencing hypothermia. So I just wanted 519 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: to duck in a porter potty to get warm real quick, 520 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: and she said, hey, I'll hang back and I'll wait 521 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: for you and try to slow down the field. Well 522 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: the field, notice I went in there and they took off, 523 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: so she hung back. But the concept is the act 524 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: of her trying to help me, I think, then bolstered 525 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: her to be like, Okay, I'm fine, I'm back in it, 526 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: and she actually then was wrote history. So her act 527 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: of kindness towards me because earlier in the race, like 528 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: literally mile five, she's like, yo, I'm dropping out today, 529 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: and I was like, it's a mile five does and 530 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, no, it's not my day. 531 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 4: I don't feel good, and I'm like it does. I 532 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 4: was like, I was like, yo, no one feels good. 533 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 4: But yeah. 534 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: I think she thought maybe like other people felt good 535 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, no one feels good. But then 536 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: I think after that little interaction of the porter potty step, 537 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: she's like, yo, yeah, a lot of people don't feel good. 538 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 4: Maybe I feel better than I think. 539 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: And so it just allowed her to have a shift 540 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: of you know, like some positivity with it. 541 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I know, I mean not just that day, 542 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 3: but throughout your career, You've obviously had races that didn't 543 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: go as you had hoped for so many Maybe two 544 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: points of advice. One, what does someone do if they're 545 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: in the middle of it and they realize that they 546 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: need to pivot, Like maybe you lace up, You're going 547 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: to run the New York Marathon and tomorrow like all 548 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: that you've got is less than you'd hoped. How does 549 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 3: someone keep going in that moment? 550 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: Well, I can say this, I've had more mediocre, disappointing 551 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: races than I've had great races or exceeding my expectations. 552 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 4: So the norm is like more towards like the little. 553 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Bit disappointed, right, But yeah, pivoting is essential. 554 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 4: I liked it. 555 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: In my head as I approach each race that I've 556 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: run in my careers, I have like a list of 557 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: three goals so that you're not written in just like 558 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: obsessed with just the one goal, because then if that 559 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: one thing goes wrong, then you're like, oh, I'm done, 560 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: can't do it, like you want to like just give up. 561 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: You can't have that happen. 562 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: And so, because believe me, I've done that before, so 563 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: I always like to list out like I got goal one, 564 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: goal too, goal three. On the way here, Alice and 565 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: I were talking about like she's like someone talking. We 566 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: were talking about goals, and she's like, well, I've already 567 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: achieved my goal. And I'm like, wait, the gun hasn't 568 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: gone off because she's running on Sunday. She's like, no, 569 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: just get to the start line healthy, Like that's my 570 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: number one goal. So it can be you know, really 571 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: big audacious goals. There can be like very concrete, just 572 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: like simple things like just get to the start line healthy, 573 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: that's awesome, you know. So for like me, I'd be like, Okay, yeah, 574 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: on a perfect day, I'm winning on you know. If not, 575 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: if I'm not winning, then maybe I'm running a PB 576 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: or maybe I'm placing top ten, you know. And so 577 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: like when things were going awry, I would just be like, Okay, 578 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: well that's not happening. I'll go I'll move on to 579 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: goal number two now and something to focus on, and 580 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: like that's tangible. 581 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: What would you say the I feel like you said 582 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: big Harry as describing a word for like big, hairy, 583 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: audacious goals. What would you say, The biggest, hairyest, most 584 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: audacious goal you've ever set has. 585 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: Been winning the New York City Marathon by far. Yeah 586 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: it's hard. 587 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: I had to face Mary Katani here so many times, 588 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: and she's really just a badass. 589 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, this is where the world's best comes is 590 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 4: New York. Genuinely believe that. 591 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: And so then let's fast forward a little bit to 592 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. You making the announcement that you're going to 593 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: retire for you at that time, coming off of back 594 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: to back knee surgeries, something that so many people I'm 595 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: sure are in your DMS about talking about injury and 596 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: how to navigate that experience, which can be so lonely 597 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: for some. Give us some insight into where your head 598 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: was at when you came to terms with the fact 599 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: that this was. 600 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: What was on the docket for you. 601 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 602 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: I think I was in denial that I was going 603 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: to have to go through knee surgery. So I tried 604 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: everything under the sun, calling is here. She and I 605 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: came up with like everything that we could do to 606 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: not have surgery, because like that's the last resort option, 607 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: but it was inevitable. 608 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: I had torn on both knees, a. 609 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: Significant amount of my patilla attendant off the bone, so 610 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: I now have kudaver tendons and both knees screws all 611 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: suitured down. The prognosis was not great. I sought out 612 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: one of the best doctors in the world for knee 613 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: surgery and he asked me, like, well, what's your goal 614 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: And I said, uh, just to be able to run again. 615 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 4: And he's like, I can do that. 616 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: But he's like, I just want you to know, like 617 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: likely probably not any professional running, right, And I'm like, yeah, we'll. 618 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 4: Take that off the table. 619 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: So I in my mind was like, man, if I 620 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: can just one run ever again, that would be great. 621 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: And then two if like I could just run a 622 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: few times a week, maybe thirty to sixty minutes, just 623 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: enough to be able to like run with my athletes, like, man, 624 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: I'll be so happy. And here I am, so that's crazy. Yeah, 625 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean I think it. I had a great surgeon. 626 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 1: I'm obviously really stubborn, and then I had great physical therapy. 627 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: I think the back half the surgeon can only do 628 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: so much. You really have to do a lot with 629 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: physical therapy it's essential, and then obviously a good diet 630 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: and taking care of yourself. 631 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: But upon you know, those two surgeries, I think when. 632 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: You stripped away like physical exercise, I could not do 633 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: anything for like it was extremely painful. First of all 634 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: the surgeries, they were it was really bad. But being 635 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: like bedridden and not being able to really move much, 636 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: from going from being so physically active and then being 637 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: like inside so much, I was not good for my 638 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: mental health completely. 639 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 4: I remember just feeling. 640 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: Like like who am I this is like a former 641 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: shell of me and like not just not feeling good 642 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: at all. 643 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: So it's really was difficult time. 644 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 3: For Now that you've gone through that, I'm sure that 645 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: you're able to recognize that there are things that you 646 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: can do to maybe like boost that mental health or 647 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: reach out a little bit more. And some reflections from that. 648 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: So for someone that may be going through that exact 649 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: experience right now, what do you have to offer them? 650 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: My mental shift was like, oh, you know, I went 651 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: from I can't do this, I can't do this, I 652 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: can't do this, feeling sorry for myself, and then I 653 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: had to shift it and be like, well I can 654 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: do this, and then you know, feeding off the momentum 655 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: like oh I can get on crutches today, Oh I 656 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: get to I would celebrate the little tiniest things of 657 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: being like oh I got out of my sweatpants today. Yeah, 658 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: like I took a shower today. I can do these 659 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: things instead of the I can't. And that just like 660 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: kept on just feeding on itself of like focusing on 661 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: what I can do instead of what I can't. 662 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: I think that, I mean, I would think that everyone's 663 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: probably gonna nother their head, but that's like what we 664 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: learned over the last you know, twelve sixteen eighteen months 665 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 3: was that we need to find those small wins and 666 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: take some happiness and the smaller joys. For you over 667 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: the last sixteen eighteen months, aside from spending more time 668 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: with Jack and now to complete your six marathon in 669 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: forty two days, what would you say have been some 670 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: of the small joys for you? 671 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean it to me, the small joy is 672 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: like I think we took a lot of things for granted, 673 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: and so just the reemergence of the little things and 674 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: like the sense of gratitude of just like even us 675 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: sitting here all together, having events where we can even 676 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: just giving like my friends a hug, touching one another again, 677 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: like just like the those kind of things those have 678 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: been like what we're like taken for granted, joys have 679 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: become like huge joys to me. 680 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: If you had to articulate maybe a high and low 681 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: of this marathon journey for you, what would you say 682 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: those are? 683 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 4: Hmm high, We'll start with the highs. 684 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: One of my favorite traditions that we started on this 685 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: whole journey with the women that I've traveled with is 686 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: we have champagne and fries after every marathon, so I 687 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: always have like that to look forward to, Like I 688 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: get to the finish, Li'm like, oh, yes, it's champagne 689 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: and friest time. 690 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 4: So that's I'd say that's been a high. 691 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: And like just having them there at the finish, Like 692 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: having people that care about you at the finish makes 693 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: it that much more fun and that much more motivating 694 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: to get to the finish line as quick as possible. 695 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: That combined with the ability to have Jack with me 696 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: at all of these for the most part, he didn't 697 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: come to Chicago and Boston because that was a quick turnaround. 698 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, just having that support team at the finish 699 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: line has been a huge low. We've probably been walking 700 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: in London. It was like I was in a massive 701 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: paint cave in London. I misjudged my pacing and the 702 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: last like ten k five k were really really hard 703 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: for me, Like I was very, very uncomfortable and had 704 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: to walk for the first time marathon. But it taught 705 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: me a lot, Like now I actually think I'll be 706 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: a better coach and giving advice for the marathon because 707 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: I had never gotten in that bad of a place before, 708 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: so I actually think you can turn it into a positive. 709 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: I now can like recommend, like I told the least 710 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: a couple of times already, I'm like, it's okay to walk. 711 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: Walking is very cool, It's great, you should walk if 712 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: you need more fluid, you've got a cramp. It can 713 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: actually go from like what could be a disaster of 714 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: a day and maybe not finishing to then you got it. 715 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't take long. Sometimes it's just thirty seconds, and 716 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: it changes the whole trajectory of the actual race by doing. 717 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: That, I mean, speaking of Elise running her first marathon 718 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 3: here in New York, a lot of other beginners, I 719 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: mean I would argue, if you like you're you can 720 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: be a beginner marathon or but if you're about to 721 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 3: go out for a marathon, then you're a pretty experienced runner. 722 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 2: I would hope. 723 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: So for those that are either tackling their first marathon 724 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: here this weekend, or maybe thinking that one day they 725 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 3: could want to do something like that, what do you 726 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 3: tell them in terms of like maybe a best strategy 727 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 3: tip or. 728 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean there's there's a lot of there's 729 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: a lot of things you could tell someone, but ultimately 730 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: they have to have like the desire to actually want 731 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: to do it, like you shouldn't do it because you 732 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: feel pressure to do it. There needs to be a 733 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: genuine desire to do a marathon because there's nothing easy 734 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: about it. 735 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 4: The training's not easy, the actual race is not easy. 736 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: So like, you got to really want to do it, 737 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: and you got to know your reason why you're doing it, 738 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: and because if you don't have that, why then you 739 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: have a lot of lonely miles of trying to figure 740 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: out why you should put another foot in front of 741 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: in front of another. So yeah, you just you got 742 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: to know that reason why you want to do it 743 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: and genuinely feel it in your in your soul. 744 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: Taking a break from today's episode to give Insidetracker a 745 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 3: little bit more love now. Inside Tracker, as I mentioned 746 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: at the top of this episode, it analyzes what's going 747 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 3: on in your body so that they can provide you 748 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 3: a clear picture of what's happening. And to do that, 749 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: I got a simple blood test and a DNA swab, 750 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: and within two weeks time had so many useful insights 751 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 3: right at my fingertips, and then I was able to 752 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 3: incorporate their recommendations like dietary shifts and getting more iron 753 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 3: and making sure I was getting enough vitamin D to 754 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 3: not only feel better in my day to day, but 755 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 3: perform better when I was going after my crazy. 756 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: Big, audacious goals. 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That like makes me think about the 768 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 3: opportunity costs that goes hand in hand with running a marathon, 769 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 3: right Like, You'll talk to so many runners and especially 770 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: elites that talk about not being able to go to 771 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,439 Speaker 3: family functions or weddings because they have to incorporate certain 772 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 3: training into their routine and traveling just doesn't seem to 773 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 3: be a part of it. When you think about some 774 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: of the opportunity costs that you've undertaken, you know, over 775 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 3: your career. 776 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: What does that bring to mind for you? 777 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you have a hard goal and 778 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: a big goal, there's always some sacrifices that go along 779 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: with it to try to achieve something big. And I 780 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: missed so many. I mean I don't think I went. 781 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: I didn't even go to Alisa's wedding. I'm as so 782 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: many of you know, friends and families gatherings, and fortunately 783 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: they were very understanding in my my, my big, hairy, 784 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: audacious goals. But yeah, now I now I've tried to 785 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: invest my time in supporting other people a lot more now. 786 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, the sport can require some selfishness to a degree, 787 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: but it at the same time that selfishness also when 788 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: it does like play out, there's a lot. 789 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 4: Of positive that goes along with it. 790 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't regret some of those decisions, even though 791 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: they were really hard to do and I felt like 792 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: I was missing out a lot and it would make 793 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: me sad a lot of times. But the joy that 794 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: I also saw when I won the New York City 795 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: Marathon on people that care about me, their faces and 796 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: the joy it brought them, then that's just what. 797 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 4: You have to weigh the cost benefit. 798 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 3: It's interesting, right because I like take a step back 799 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 3: and I ask myself, Slash, I'm about to ask, like 800 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 3: if you had gone through the last year and a 801 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: half or two, like imagine if the COVID nineteen pandemic 802 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 3: happened ten years ago, right, Yeah, and we all have 803 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 3: this like very I would say maybe a little bit 804 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 3: different of a perspective on life and everything now than 805 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 3: we did eighteen months ago. So if you think about 806 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 3: maybe some of those decisions at this point, having had 807 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 3: the experiences you have had with your family, do you 808 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 3: think that you may have made some of those same decisions. 809 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean like missing out on some of those things. Yeah, Yeah, 810 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: that's a really good question. 811 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. 812 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean I think at the same time, the pandemic 813 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: has also made me realize like seizing the opportunity right 814 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: in front of me a little bit more, not to 815 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: be reckless, but like you just I want to just 816 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: throw myself into things because, like you just, it's like 817 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: the you never know kind of scenario. So now I 818 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: feel like I'm ending up seeing like yes to things 819 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: that maybe I would have been like no, like wait 820 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: till later, wait till later. I'm like kind of not 821 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: in the wait till later mode. I feel like a 822 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: sense of urgency of when an opportunity presents itself to 823 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: be like Nope, now's the time. 824 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 4: Nope, now's the time. 825 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: I think I was like really good at delayed gratification, 826 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 1: and now I'm like, I get I get a little 827 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: bit of worry because of the pandemic of like nope, 828 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: we need to like capitalize and we need to do 829 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 1: it now. 830 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 3: For you, I mean, this is a simple segue into 831 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 3: why you chose to take on Project Eclipse, as it's called. Now, 832 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: why you decided to make the call to run all 833 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 3: six marathons in this short time span. Why don't you 834 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: shed a little bit of light on that for us? 835 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: Okay, there there's a short answer, and then there's like 836 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: a really long winded answer. 837 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: So how long is the long winded answer? 838 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 839 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,959 Speaker 1: I'll give you the short one is I would say, 840 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: the reason, like or why I'm doing it is I 841 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: like to just say because I can, and by that 842 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean I'm capable of it and I can, so 843 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: like I don't know, does that make sense like I 844 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: because I can and not everyone can. When when the 845 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: schedule came out and I was like, oh, wow, like 846 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: six marathons in forty two days. Someone to do that? 847 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: And then I thought, well, like why would I say that? 848 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: Someone else should like why not me? So that's always 849 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: been like a phrase that I've had my career of 850 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: like so, oh that would be great to do. I'm like, 851 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: well why not me? And I think everyone should always 852 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: be asking themselves like why not me? Why can't that 853 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: be me? And doing that? You know that that big 854 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: scary thing. But yeah, also I just, uh, the reason 855 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: more layers to it is I felt like, basically I 856 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: was struggling mentally and felt like very depressed during the 857 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: pandemic and retiring and going through knee surgeries, and I 858 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: missed having a goal I call it like the pandemic, 859 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: like a goalless abyss. And I just felt the need 860 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: to do something kind of hard again. And I feel 861 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 1: like when I'm doing hard things, I actually feel more 862 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: alive when I'm challenging myself that and I just want to, yeah, 863 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: showcase to young women that sport can be for life 864 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: and change your life for the better. I'm grateful that 865 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: running came into my life and I went from an 866 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 1: extremely shy young girl to you know, a moderately shy 867 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: adult now. 868 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 4: And yeah, it's it's just. 869 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: It's changed my life for the better, and I just 870 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: felt the need to to just do something challenging. 871 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 4: Again. 872 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 3: You mentioned going through that tough time of feeling a 873 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 3: little bit depressed during the pandemic. I'm sure many people 874 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 3: listening to this or watching this right now can certainly 875 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 3: relate to that. For you, having so many eyes on you, 876 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 3: does that make you feel some kind of way about 877 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 3: how you're supposed to quote unquote present yourself outwardly, like 878 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 3: Selene Flannagt is not supposed to be depressed. 879 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 4: Uh, I don't. Yeah, I don't know. 880 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I I think I just am like pretty 881 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: good at being genuinely myself at least I try to 882 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: like always do a gut check of like are you 883 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: genuinely doing this because you want to? Or are you 884 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: trying to people please? And you know, to a degree, 885 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: we all do things to you know, be a people pleaser. 886 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I didn't. 887 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't feel shy and sharing that, like, yeah, I 888 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: didn't feel great during the pandemic. I think more people 889 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: can relate to that than not, and it's understandable, you know. 890 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 4: And I don't know. 891 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: I yeah, I just I believe in trying to be 892 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: as authentic as possible. I'm probably not great at all 893 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: the time, but yeah, I try not to. 894 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 4: Worry about what people think. 895 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: And if it is, you know, people think negative things, 896 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh. 897 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 4: Well, then we probably wouldn't be friends. 898 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: So okay, were there any considerations going into Project Eclipse 899 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 3: that like made you. 900 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 2: Kind of for a second be like, wait, is this 901 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 2: the right thing? 902 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 5: Uh? 903 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just generally worried maybe that I 904 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 1: would do something to my knees, and I didn't want 905 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: to compromise the hard work that my surgeon had done 906 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: and my PT done and just you know, getting back 907 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: to a good place of actually running. So I was 908 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: definitely worried about that. And I was able to use 909 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: this Nike Sports Research Lab and they've been monitoring my 910 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: knees throughout the whole thing and doing scans to make 911 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: sure I wasn't doing any damage because at the end 912 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 1: of the day, I didn't want to be injured again, 913 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: you know. So while I wanted to do this, I 914 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: was like, wait, can I physically really do it? Just 915 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: because it's here doesn't mean it's here. So that's been 916 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: really nice to know that, like I have that, and 917 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: then using inside Tracker being able to track my biomarkers 918 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: through my blood to make sure I'm maintaining good health 919 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: throughout this whole project, and then obviously eating from rise 920 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: and run. I mean, I've got a team of people 921 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: behind the scenes to make sure. But like my ultimate 922 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: worrying concern was is just like staying healthy. 923 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 4: I didn't want to be out here being. 924 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: Like, you know, breaking things and just you know, looking 925 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: like I was reckless. I want to be able to 926 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: promote health and wellness and taking care of yourself. And 927 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 1: so that's why I enlisted a really great support system 928 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: to be able to do it. 929 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 3: I mean, you're definitely highlighting something that is so important again, 930 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 3: this support system. I think so often we want to 931 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 3: prove to ourselves that like, I've got this on my own, 932 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 3: I can do it, but sometimes reaching out for help, 933 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 3: extending your hand and being like, hey, I can't do 934 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 3: this alone. 935 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: Getting to that place of admitting that is the first thing. 936 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm actually like too good at it, I'm like, 937 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: I need help, I need help, I need help. So yeah, 938 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean I'm an advocate. If you don't know that area, 939 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: like get the best people around you. People have said like, oh, 940 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: the success you've had, and like it's only because I'm 941 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm honest and be like I don't know how to 942 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: do that, like and I need your help, Like I 943 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: need help with this, I need help, and like not 944 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: being afraid to me, It's like, why wouldn't you Why 945 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't you find the best people to help you. 946 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 3: Do you remember a circumstance where was there i mean, 947 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 3: was there a specific time that you reflect on where 948 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 3: maybe you weren't as good at that and you kind 949 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 3: of learned a lesson about it the hard way. 950 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a great story there. I can't think 951 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 1: of off the top of my head, but yeah, it's 952 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure for absolutely has happened, and I'm sure that's 953 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: why now I am so. 954 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 4: Good at it, so good at it. Please help. 955 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you announced that you were going to do this, 956 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 3: I'm sure you also probably got some like feedback and 957 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,240 Speaker 3: then maybe all so some like helpful advice or tips 958 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 3: and tricks yourself. Can you think of anyone's advice to 959 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 3: you embarking on this journey that really stands out. 960 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: I think I got a lot more like You're crazy. 961 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: One of the big thing has just been like my 962 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 1: nutrition and trying to dial that in to make sure 963 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm getting in enough calories and monitoring that component. 964 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 4: I think has been like where people have really reached out. 965 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: I think they people in general like know that I 966 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: understand the running component, even though this is like completely 967 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 1: new to me. I've never done anything like this, so 968 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: it's like, how do you even prepare for it? But 969 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is like I've been relying 970 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: on my team for my nutrition has been like the 971 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: big one and that they've reached out, and I've been 972 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: really trying to listen and do a good job with that. 973 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,919 Speaker 3: We mentioned twenty four different superhero muffins in the Rise 974 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: and Run cookbook. 975 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite? 976 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: The dark chocolate banana are probably my favorite. 977 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 2: One of two superhero muffins I've ever made. 978 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 3: Oh nice, okay, Jogi is the original super muff super wow? 979 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, your original muffin? 980 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 981 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 2: And then this one from Resin Roun That's a good one. 982 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, you can't can't go wrong. 983 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,800 Speaker 3: So we're talking about the importance of nutrition. It feels 984 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 3: like a really great time for me to maybe call 985 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,720 Speaker 3: upon Stevie from Inside Tracker. You guys had worked together 986 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 3: over the last you know, handful of months as well 987 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 3: as previous to that, and in working together, you definitely 988 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 3: learned a lot Stevie, as I said, a registered dietitian, 989 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 3: and so shedding some light on what it is that 990 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 3: you've been doing and your your little journey here, Stevie, 991 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 3: talk to us about what you've learned working with Shelaane. 992 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 6: She is a superhero herself. After looking at some of 993 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 6: her blood work after Boston and Chicago back to back, 994 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 6: but honestly getting more real, a little bit more scientific 995 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 6: that you can tell in her blood work since we've 996 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 6: been working together, specifically starting right after she got back 997 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 6: from the Olympics, how much her and her team have 998 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 6: really worked to dial in her nutrition and her recovery. 999 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 6: Obviously we know Shelaine Elise. They have these amazing cookbooks 1000 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 6: as resources for all runners and active individuals, even anyone 1001 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 6: just looking to eat a little bit healthier. So they 1002 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 6: know how to eat, they know how to fuel, but 1003 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 6: especially when you're taking on a big challenge. Right For 1004 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 6: some people that might be go on couch to ten 1005 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 6: k or for Slaine, it's doing all of these marathons 1006 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 6: that when yes, you can eat healthy, you can eat 1007 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 6: your vegetables and whole grains. But by using blood work, 1008 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 6: blood biomarkers to inside tracker, we've really been able to 1009 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,919 Speaker 6: help guide her to take that to the next level. 1010 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 6: Take a closer look and see how she can continue 1011 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,839 Speaker 6: to fine tune with all of this, you know, not 1012 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 6: just physical stress, but also the mental and emotional stress 1013 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 6: of all the travel and momming and everything she has 1014 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 6: on her plate, nutrition and kind of monitoring. Are we 1015 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 6: fueling our bodies not just for all these amazing marathons, 1016 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 6: but also all of the other responsibilities and things that 1017 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 6: we love to make sure that we're staying healthy doing that. 1018 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 6: And she's done an awesome, awesome job through her blood work. 1019 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 6: I was like, I had been waiting for the results 1020 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 6: after all of them, and when I saw them after 1021 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 6: Boston and Chicago. 1022 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh my gosh, but yeah, so can 1023 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: we share like just a little bit. Like so, for example, 1024 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: we did a baseline test in August after the Olympics. 1025 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: It showed that I was kind of stressed after the Olympics, rightfully, 1026 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: so watching my athletes compete. And then we did a 1027 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: test right after Berlin and London, and again some of 1028 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: the typical markers of corgisol was spiked. 1029 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 6: The as alt, ASD and alt which are enzymes that 1030 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 6: also indicate muscle breakdown, muscle damage along with creatine kina 1031 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 6: and as well as your inflammation. Those all went up, 1032 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 6: which would be a normal response. Those will elevate right 1033 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 6: after a marathon. They should start to drop back drop 1034 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 6: down within seven days of completing a marathon. 1035 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: So those elevated, yes, And but then I did the 1036 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 1: doubleheader of the Chicago Boston back to back, which you 1037 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: think would be obviously kind of traumatic to the body. 1038 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: But I think I'd done a good job of like 1039 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: adjusting after we saw some of the biomarkers kind of 1040 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 1: spike up. I actually had better markers after the Chicago 1041 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: Boston just because I was a little bit more on 1042 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 1: top of stuff and took the feedback and my levels 1043 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: had dropped and in terms of some of those liker 1044 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: ir irritations to the body essentially, which was like crazy 1045 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 1: to see. 1046 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't you take an ice bath after Chicago. Yes, 1047 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 3: everyone goes to buy multiple, multiple baths of ice and 1048 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 3: gets in an ice. 1049 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 4: There's just torture. 1050 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: They're terrible, but I've seen results, so I was like, ugh, 1051 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: if there's. 1052 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 4: One time to do it now, it would be a 1053 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 4: good time. 1054 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah it was. It was pretty remarkable to 1055 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 6: see those drops. And then we did one more kind 1056 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 6: of a few, like a couple of weeks, like nine 1057 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 6: days after you did your virtual Tokyo, and some of 1058 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 6: those marklers markers already went back down into her optimized zone, 1059 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 6: which was pretty incredible and nice to see. Like, Okay, 1060 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 6: yes she has all the life stress with you know, 1061 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 6: rise and Run launching everything else. She's handling coaching again. 1062 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 6: But everything she's done has really set herself up to 1063 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 6: come into this, you know, grand finale of Project Eclipse. 1064 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 3: Ready to go, so ready to go, no excuses here now, 1065 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 3: I mean one more question for you before I let 1066 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 3: you go. STV is for those that are interesting. I mean, 1067 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 3: it's so easy right to just be like I'm going 1068 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 3: to get a blood test on Tuesday, but then what 1069 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 3: happens after that, Like making that appointment is literally the 1070 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 3: easiest part because so many people don't follow up to 1071 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 3: understand what these results mean for them. 1072 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 2: So why is that important? Why is it important to. 1073 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 3: Maybe talk with a registered dietitian or maybe more in 1074 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 3: depth with the physician about what we're seeing as a 1075 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 3: part of getting blood work. 1076 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great point and great question. So yes, 1077 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,760 Speaker 6: of course information is helpful. It's good to have those markers, 1078 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 6: whether it's your first blood test or your fifth blood test. 1079 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 6: But it's just like anything, they could just sit there 1080 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 6: and then if you don't take any actions to improve them, 1081 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 6: they're never going to get better. With Inside Tracker, we 1082 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 6: will give you an action plan with recommendations, very easy, 1083 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 6: digestible things that you can start to do, whether it's 1084 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 6: through nutrition, lifestyle rest, if you choose to take supplements, 1085 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 6: we give very scientific and guided supplement advice. But if 1086 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 6: it's something that's still confusing to you or you're unsure 1087 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 6: of how to put those actions into place in a 1088 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,439 Speaker 6: way that will benefit you, working with someone to help 1089 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 6: you break it down, make it a little bit easier 1090 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 6: and kind of fit your preferences, your lifestyle. Make those 1091 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 6: small actions that are of course goals that are attainable 1092 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 6: and achievable, so then you can start to feel better, 1093 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 6: have more energy, and you know, as Shelaanne has said, 1094 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 6: you know, she wants to run forever. I find that 1095 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,720 Speaker 6: testing with inside Tracker is a really really good way 1096 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 6: to kind of get that longevity in sport, so you're 1097 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 6: not just worrying about performance right now, but also keeping 1098 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 6: an eye on your health long term as well. 1099 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for shutting you on that. Really 1100 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 3: really appreciate it. I do want to go back to 1101 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 3: the note that you said before about it's important to 1102 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 3: have multiple goals. Right. I'm going to talk really close 1103 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 3: to this microphone now while this siren goes by. So 1104 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 3: that is very New York, right, sounds fine, love New York. I. 1105 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 3: You mentioned the importance of having three goals, right, like 1106 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 3: having multiple things that you can aim for going into 1107 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 3: any race. And it was so funny to me that 1108 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 3: you said the number three, because I'll never forget that. 1109 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 3: My old boss, her name is lis Plosser. She's not 1110 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,439 Speaker 3: the other in chief at Woman's Health. She always told 1111 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 3: me when it comes to running. For her, she also 1112 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 3: had three goals, and it was the goal that, like 1113 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 3: you like put out there publicly, the goal that like 1114 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 3: maybe you tell your friends and the goal you tell 1115 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 3: no one, right, Like the goal that just sits like 1116 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,879 Speaker 3: right in the middle of your chest and like your 1117 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 3: anxious zone. 1118 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 2: That's like all of your scary, big potential. 1119 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to talk a little bit about 1120 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 3: where your goals are at going into New York? 1121 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 4: Well, the like which one I don't know. 1122 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 2: I'm like waiting for you to give us the big deal. 1123 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: Like what everyone knows is that I want to finish 1124 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: tomorrow for sure, finish project clips. But the one that 1125 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm keeping closer to my chest. That would 1126 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: be like we've all had this, hopefully where you get 1127 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: out there and you're like, I'm having a day. I 1128 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: feel great, and you're kind of in this state of flow. 1129 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: You're like you click off the mouse. You're like ooh, 1130 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: like that's nice. That didn't feel that hard, you know, 1131 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 1: and it just like comes natural and you're not forcing it. 1132 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 1: I would love to have that kind of a day tomorrow, 1133 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: have it click feel good. You know, it's not going 1134 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: to feel good the entire way, but just in that 1135 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: state of flow where you can enjoy running, where it's 1136 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: not a struggle and you have to really you know, 1137 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: grit down and so that I can run fast, but 1138 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 1: yet I can enjoy what New York City Marathon has 1139 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 1: to offer. My ultimate goal for myself is to been 1140 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 1: is to like enjoy these marathons, and so I would 1141 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 1: love if they coincided with just entering in that state 1142 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 1: of flow where things come nice and natural and easy 1143 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: and I get to enjoy it. 1144 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,280 Speaker 2: You and I have the same goal. That's so awesome. Yeah, wow, never. 1145 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,959 Speaker 4: Thought, never thought. 1146 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1147 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 3: I mean, now, as we mentioned before, you said that 1148 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 3: you really try not to worry about what all the 1149 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 3: other people think as you're going about, you know, your life. 1150 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 3: Many of us follow you on Instagram. One of the 1151 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 3: four hundred thousand people that follow you on Instagram, when 1152 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 3: they come to your page, they see a woman that 1153 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 3: has now retired, but a professional runner and a mother 1154 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 3: doing a lot of really cool fun things over in Oregon. 1155 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, what is it that 1156 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 3: you see looking back at you? 1157 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 4: I have I don't even know who am I I 1158 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 4: don't know, I mean, I have what I like? Would 1159 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 4: hope that I think about myself? I don't know. 1160 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: I mean I again, I just hope that like I 1161 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: am as close to being authentically me is possible in general, 1162 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm I'm I'm I feel like 1163 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm a fairly confident person and I don't know that, 1164 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 1: yeah that I feel good about myself and proud of 1165 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 1: what I do. I try to, yeah, do things that 1166 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I feel like we should at times, 1167 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: like you can look to other people for inspiration, but 1168 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like hopefully we all 1169 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: like find inspiration in what we do. So hopefully, like 1170 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, when I look at myself like and be like, yeah, 1171 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: that was that was good. 1172 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 4: You're doing a good job. 1173 00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,959 Speaker 2: You're doing a good job. 1174 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:00,439 Speaker 4: Thanks. 1175 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna take this opportunity right now. 1176 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 2: We have thumbs up in the bacheline's doing great. 1177 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this opportunity right now to open up 1178 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 3: for about like ten to fifteen minutes to audience questions. 1179 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 2: We do have a microphone that they will bring you. 1180 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 3: But what will happen is they will bring you the microphone, 1181 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 3: you will ask it, I will reiterate it, and then 1182 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 3: we will move forward. So this is your big moment 1183 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 3: right now, really to get outside of. 1184 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 2: Your comfort zone. 1185 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 3: A Slane's done many times and maybe ask her a question, 1186 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 3: So feel free to raise your hand. 1187 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 2: I'll go with Audrey front right. 1188 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 7: Hi both of you. First of all, thank you so 1189 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 7: much for this today. This has been so exciting and great. 1190 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 7: My name's Audrey. I'm from Boston. I know that you 1191 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 7: still have to run tomorrow, but I was wondering what's 1192 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 7: been your favorite marathon throughout this project and. 1193 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 3: Why Audrey wants to know what Slaine's favorite marathon has 1194 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 3: been from Project Eclipse. 1195 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 4: The one thus far. 1196 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: I think tomorrow is probably gonna be my favorite, but 1197 00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,080 Speaker 1: just projecting that, but thus far, it's actually one that 1198 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 1: surprised me because I was basically the race director of it. 1199 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: It was the virtual Tokyo in Portland. I had very 1200 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: low expectations just because there was going to be it's 1201 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 1: not a real race a lot. There was no you know, 1202 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: typical enthusiasm of crowds and other runners. 1203 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 4: It was basically just myself. 1204 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: And my family and my team of people supporting me 1205 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: out on this island called Savvi Island outside of the 1206 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: city of Portland, where there's pumpkin patches and farms and cows, 1207 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: and it's it's very beautiful, and I've trained on it, 1208 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, for years now, and I just was like 1209 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 1: really tired going into it, thinking, oh, I just don't 1210 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of energy and it won't be that 1211 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: fun just because it's not a real race with other people. 1212 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: But it was actually my favorite. I had so much fun. 1213 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: It was you know, Nike was great. They set up 1214 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: the course for me. I got to pick out where 1215 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to run it, how I wanted to run it, made. 1216 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 4: My own bib that said Jack's Mom. I got my 1217 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 4: own playlist of music. 1218 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: I even had one of my athletes hop in for 1219 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: a good chunk towards the end, Courtney Ferris, who's Olympic 1220 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: silver medalist, you know, no big deal, and yeah, we 1221 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 1: just and Jack was there and it was just a blast, 1222 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Like we had so much fun putting it together and 1223 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 1: just dictating, you know, whenever I wanted to start was 1224 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 1: when we started. It was very chill and relaxing, and 1225 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't think I was going to enjoy 1226 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,479 Speaker 1: it as much as as I did. 1227 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 2: Two things to double click on from that response. 1228 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 3: The first thing is like referencing Courtney as being Olympic 1229 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 3: silver medalist, so it's like there's two Olympic silver medalists 1230 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 3: just out for a run, and of course that's unsanctioned. 1231 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't get. 1232 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 2: Anything blocked off. So there's cars going by. 1233 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 3: Does anyone realize what's happening as they drive by you? 1234 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 4: Well, we had Yeah, I have the cutest Nike team. 1235 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 4: You know. 1236 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: One of one of the guys had like one of 1237 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: those you know, reflector vests, and he would hop out 1238 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: of his car and he'd act like he knew what 1239 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: he was doing, like directing traffic, and so that was 1240 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: really cute. 1241 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 4: We even had like like tent. 1242 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 1: Porta potties, Like it wasn't a real porta potty. It 1243 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: was like I don't I don't even know, like a bucket, 1244 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: but it had like a tent over it, and like 1245 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: we had even that we had a fire pit. 1246 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 4: I mean it was It was very cool. 1247 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 3: And you mentioned a DIY playlist. Oh yeah, can we 1248 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 3: talk about the playlist? 1249 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kate, I think contributed so to Colleen. It 1250 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 1: was like a conglomerate of you know, everyone's taste of music. 1251 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 4: Even my dad had a few songs in there. Yeah. 1252 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 1: I think my favorite one is American Woman by Lenny Kravitz. 1253 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: That was my favorite on there, so. 1254 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 3: Well goes to update my marathon playlist before tomorrow. Okay, okay, 1255 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 3: next question hands up? Yes, right here. 1256 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 4: Hi. 1257 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 8: I'm Fabriana from Missouri or I've lived in New York 1258 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 8: for about eight years now. I love your post race 1259 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 8: champagne and FRI's ritual. I was wondering if you have 1260 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 8: a favorite pre race dinner the night before and or 1261 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 8: like pre race ritual that's not nutrition related. 1262 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 3: Fabriana wants to know about your pre race dinner or 1263 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 3: tradition situations. 1264 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in general for marathons, you stick with like 1265 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 1: tried and true. Unfortunately, you don't not want to be 1266 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: experimenting very much. So like I've been eating very boring 1267 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: these last few days just because I'm trying to just 1268 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 1: stick with safe foods, and it is rice, chicken and 1269 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 1: sweet potatoes. I go to ritual. I am very much 1270 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: like an organized person. So the night before I my 1271 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: bag is already packed. I've literally got the kit ready 1272 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: to go. I don't want to have to think. I 1273 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 1: want to go on automatic pilot the next morning and 1274 01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: not be scrambling. 1275 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 4: So my pre race ritual is like early to bed. 1276 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: Maybe a nice bat if I need it, and just 1277 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 1: being like very organized all even like right out, like 1278 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: at what time I should take a sip of coffee, 1279 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 1: Like It'll be that detailed. 1280 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 4: If I need it to be. 1281 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,960 Speaker 1: But I'll work back from like gun time all the 1282 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 1: way from when I wake up and I list out 1283 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 1: everything I'm going to need to do and what time 1284 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: buses all that, so that, yeah, I'm not like stressed 1285 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 1: before I get to the start line. I want to 1286 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 1: like run a race before I run my race, So 1287 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of like my my thing to get centered 1288 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 1: and organized. 1289 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 3: And when you're traveling, are you staying in hotels? Are 1290 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 3: you staying places where you'd be able to make your 1291 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 3: own food. 1292 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: No, we have just been having to like do a 1293 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: lot of research and scramble to just try to find 1294 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 1: the right foods. But I have been packing a lot 1295 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 1: of Superhero muffins and the race date oatmeal that transports 1296 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 1: really well the dinner situation, obviously they need a little 1297 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 1: more fresh. Not going to be taking that all over 1298 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 1: the world with me. But yeah, a lot of like 1299 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 1: our breakfast stuff is what I've been snacking on and 1300 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: taking with me because it's really easy to like transfer 1301 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: and port YEP. 1302 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 3: Another audience question. I see one over here on the left. 1303 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 4: Hi. I'm Jen. 1304 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 9: I'm from north of Boston as well, grew up in Hamilton, 1305 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 9: love It, just up the street from Marblehead. But my 1306 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 9: question for you is, can you just run us through 1307 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 9: what the logistics were like in terms of thing from 1308 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 9: Chicago to Boston, Because I feel like you must have 1309 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 9: really had to hustle and I've kind of always imagined 1310 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 9: what that plane, that flight must have been like for 1311 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 9: all the other athletes that were doing Chicago Boston. 1312 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 4: Can you just walk us through what those forty eight 1313 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 4: hours were like for you. 1314 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 3: Jen wants to know, Jen, Yeah, Jen wants to know 1315 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 3: what it was like getting quickly from Chicago to Boston. 1316 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the quicker I finished in Chicago is the like 1317 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 1: easier and you know, pad time to get everything manipulated. 1318 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, we picked out a pretty tight schedule to 1319 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: make sure I got into Boston so that I had 1320 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: like a little time to decompress, get you know, get 1321 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 1: some food, and get some you know, like a light 1322 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: massage with my pet who's been traveling. So that allowed 1323 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: me to I didn't want to be getting in at 1324 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 1: like eleven PM and then having to get up at 1325 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 1: like four A. It was a really tight turnaround. So 1326 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 1: I think the thing is, is we as soon as I finished, 1327 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: I think we took Yeah, we took like a cart, 1328 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: like a I don't know whatever, what. 1329 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 4: Is it called golf cart. Took a golf cart right. 1330 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 1: From the finish line to the hotel, ran in, rinsed 1331 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 1: off real quick, didn't even wash my hair, rinsed off. 1332 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 1: A car was waiting on the backside of the hotel because 1333 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 1: all the streets were like shut down, so to try 1334 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 1: to get to where we need to go to get 1335 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 1: to the airport, that was like strategically placed the van 1336 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 1: and then we all piled in everyone that was with me. 1337 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 1: In fact, my friend who was going to be running 1338 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: with me in Boss and he works for Nike and 1339 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: was an old teammate of mine. 1340 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 4: He was there. So we got everyone on the van, 1341 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 4: loaded up. 1342 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: Nike and some of my support team already had like food, 1343 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 1: we had smoothies in there, just chugging and trying to 1344 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: get like refueled and rehydrated as quick as possible. So yeah, 1345 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 1: the van ride was just consumption of food and beverages 1346 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 1: as much as possible. Got to the airport, and I 1347 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: think we actually had some like a luxurious amount of time. 1348 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't like super stressful, just because everything was so 1349 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: organized and detailed, and ate some more food in the airport, 1350 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 1: got on the plane, took a nap, got off, went 1351 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: straight to the hotel as soon as we got in, 1352 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: more food, more drinks, and I had a massage and 1353 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: some work done with my pt Colleen, ice bath and 1354 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,920 Speaker 1: then to bed and then it was maybe like seven 1355 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 1: hours later, maybe six hours later, back up again to 1356 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: do it all over. 1357 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 4: So, yeah, it was smooth. 1358 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 1: It could have, you know, could have easily have been 1359 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: really stressful, but I think because we planned everything out 1360 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: so well it was it wasn't that bad. 1361 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 3: So the answer to your question is Seline flew commercial. 1362 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 3: She didn't have a private job. Yeah, to go to Boston. Yeah, 1363 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 3: I'll take another audience question. 1364 01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 5: Hi, I'm Sarah. I'm from California. And my question. You've 1365 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 5: talked about your nutrition, your rest, your recovery to get 1366 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 5: you through the last forty one days. What's kept you 1367 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 5: in the mental game from day one all the way 1368 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 5: through tomorrow. If you've had mental hurdles, mental struggles, you know, 1369 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 5: is it visualization, is it recognition of your you know past? 1370 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 5: What is it that keeps you in the mental game. 1371 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 3: Sarah is a hurdler who won a spot to come 1372 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 3: here and hang out with you today, but she wants 1373 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 3: to know about what keeps you in the game mentally 1374 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 3: here right now after forty one days and twenty ten hours. 1375 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 1: For me, right now is like I'm having fun doing 1376 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 1: what I'm doing, So like there's. 1377 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 4: Not an element of fun. 1378 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 1: Like I like to describe running now is like I'm 1379 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,040 Speaker 1: gonna go play running. 1380 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 4: It shouldn't feel like like you have to do it. 1381 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 1: I know it sounds weird because it's like it's an 1382 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: individual thing, but it should feel like you're playing to 1383 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 1: a degree, there should be an element of fun in running. 1384 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 1: And so like I try to assess, like, well, what 1385 01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 1: seems fun for my running today and different days, Like 1386 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 1: certain things seem more fun than others. So I don't 1387 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 1: know this To me, this challenge seem fun. I didn't 1388 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 1: realize how much I was gonna have, like how much 1389 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,200 Speaker 1: joy it was going to bring me. 1390 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 4: I was like, ah, that that could be really cool. 1391 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: And but yeah, so I like to try to phrase 1392 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 1: it in my head like I'm gonna go play running today. 1393 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 1: So you know, for me, getting new challenges is what 1394 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 1: keeps me in the game. Right now, I think having variety, 1395 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: doing doing things on the roads. But you know, my 1396 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: next thing that I think I want to do is 1397 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: doing some more stuff on the trails. Like I live 1398 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,680 Speaker 1: in a beautiful part of the country in Oregon and 1399 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 1: there's incredible access to trails, and so just doing more 1400 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 1: more girlfriend type trips and involving trails, to me, that 1401 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 1: seems fun and that's what like keeps me intrigued in 1402 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 1: in the in the game. 1403 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 3: We've the last couple of questions have focused on mental 1404 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,639 Speaker 3: health for someone who's like just so in their head, 1405 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,640 Speaker 3: whether maybe it's like maybe it's before you know, a 1406 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 3: regular run, or maybe it's before a marathon and they're 1407 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 3: psyching themselves out, they're freaking out. What is it that 1408 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 3: you say to yourself when maybe that kind of creeps 1409 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:06,680 Speaker 3: into your ecosystem. 1410 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 4: Uh. 1411 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 1: I try to look at it as like I don't have 1412 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 1: to do this, Like I get to do this, Like 1413 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: it's just all about like rephrasing it, like I don't 1414 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,360 Speaker 1: have to go run tomorrow, but I get to Like 1415 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 1: that's a privilege, Like I stand on the start line 1416 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 1: and there should be a deep sense of gratitude and 1417 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: like this is a privilege to be able to do this, 1418 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 1: Like not everyone can do this, Like and especially coming 1419 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 1: from a time where I thought like I wouldn't really 1420 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 1: be able to run, it's like even more so, like 1421 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 1: the gratitude is tremendous. So if you're like too much 1422 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 1: inside your head, like you got to be thinking about like, wow, 1423 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,120 Speaker 1: this is a privilege. 1424 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 4: I bet you. 1425 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 1: There's so many people that you could list out that 1426 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 1: would wish they were me right now. So like that 1427 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 1: should just give you a good sense of like gratitude 1428 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: and excitement for. 1429 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 4: What you're about to do. 1430 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 3: Hands raised in the audience for who would like to 1431 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 3: be Shalaine for a day? Yeah, Okay, that's what I 1432 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 3: had a hunch. The way that I end the show 1433 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 3: every time is asking my guests about how they would 1434 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 3: perhaps offer themselves a piece of advice looking back on 1435 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 3: a hurdle moment in their journey. For you, you talked 1436 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,960 Speaker 3: about the difficulty that came hand in hand with the 1437 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 3: beginning of the pandemic, the surgeries, the emotional toll it 1438 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 3: took on you. What piece of advice, would you Slaine 1439 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 3: right now? November sixth, twenty twenty one. I have to 1440 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 3: think about the date for a second. 1441 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,880 Speaker 2: Give to Slaine at that time, during that hurdle moment. 1442 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 1: Looking back on it, Yeah, just not take anything for 1443 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 1: granted and really like be in the moment. Like a 1444 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 1: lot of people have been asking, like, what are you 1445 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: going to do next? I'm like, I don't know. I'm 1446 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 1: living in the moment. So definitely just appreciating what you're 1447 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 1: doing at this moment. Sometimes I think we're so going 1448 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 1: oriented past what we're doing, so yeah, let's give it. 1449 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 3: Up for Slaine. This was absolutely amazing. Thanks everyone, really 1450 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 3: appreciate you coming here to join us today. A huge 1451 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 3: thank you to Inside Tracker for hosting us. I couldn't 1452 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,639 Speaker 3: be more grateful. I had to put like take off 1453 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 3: my fangirl moment to like have this here with you today, 1454 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,599 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna put it back on for tomorrow because 1455 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,879 Speaker 3: I feel like it's gonna help me on my way. 1456 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 3: But thanks to everyone for coming, and thanks to Shlaine for. 1457 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,600 Speaker 2: All of your wisdom. We appreciate it. 1458 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Emily, thank you for having me. 1459 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,599 Speaker 3: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.