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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome in Side and I Hate Abner double Day

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I've gone from hating now I just hate Abner

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Speaker 1: double Day for venting the bleeping game in the first place. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, you've had some great moments over

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Speaker 3: the course of your life dedicated to this game. Since

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Speaker 3: Double Day died in eighteen ninety three. Could it just

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Speaker 3: be Rob Manford as the current show the organization.

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Speaker 1: Because the game would still be going whether Rob Manfred

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Speaker 1: or Manfred Man was the commissioner, it doesn't matter. Or

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Speaker 1: Leslie man Sure or or or or Charles Man. They'd

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Speaker 1: be playing and everybody would be no, No, no, Dad or

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Speaker 1: double day for inventing a bleeping sport.

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Speaker 3: To begin with, I'll make you feel better, how about

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Speaker 3: Leslie Man. Let's think about her.

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Speaker 1: First, I said, Leslie Man. I like Leslie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but back to her for a second, and it'll

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Speaker 3: make you feel slightly better.

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Speaker 1: Still be a baseball he would still be baseball. The

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Speaker 1: Mets would still stink. That's why that What have I mean?

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Speaker 1: My goodness man, I really like goodness.

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Speaker 3: Well, for about a month straight we had to listen

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Speaker 3: to you. Who's got the best record in baseball? Nonsense? Karmas.

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Speaker 3: You never said that.

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Speaker 1: No, I never said that, No, no, no, no, I

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Speaker 1: never said that.

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Speaker 3: Come on, I mean, Karma. Harma's the you know, a

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Speaker 3: boyfriend on the Chiefs coming home to her, you know,

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Speaker 3: the whole Taylor Swift thing. But Karma came back on

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Speaker 3: you and pit you in the ass like so much

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Speaker 3: of a you know, a meatbone bo like a what

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Speaker 3: like a meatbone.

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Speaker 1: Like a wait, karma bites you on the ass, like

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Speaker 1: a meatbone.

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Speaker 3: Like a big bone. No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that, Like what like, what do you

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Speaker 1: mean like buy a meatbone?

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Speaker 1: First of all, what's a meatbone?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just wrapped her out a boat

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Speaker 3: like you know, I don't know that's meat.

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Speaker 1: It's something that doesn't have meat left on it when

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Speaker 1: you're done with it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, and you'll have the boat.

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Speaker 1: It's just a bone, then Frostbury, it's just a boat's

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Speaker 1: but it's from meat. It's a meatboat. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 1: meat is on there, then there's no meat. Asking me

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Speaker 1: to make sense of what Mike was saying, I know,

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Speaker 1: I try to figure out what a meatbone is. I know,

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Speaker 1: I understand. I I get I eat.

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Speaker 3: Bones, especially beatbones are actually for making flavorful stocks and blots.

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Speaker 3: Come on trying to clown me.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't wrong, just no, no, no, you're trying to be

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Speaker 5: you're pissed off at the Mets' You're trying to say it, well,

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Speaker 5: he's ridiculous, Like no, cause you decided did not understand

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Speaker 3: You got this.

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Speaker 1: Just tried to look up meat bone and whatever AI

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Speaker 1: said is what you just regurgitated to me. You're relying

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Speaker 3: No, I was giving you a clinical definition pal.

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Speaker 1: Meat bone, although I will say meat bone sounds like

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Speaker 1: do you call this meatbone?

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Speaker 1: Let's call it load? Yeah, load, Let's go load instead. Hey,

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Speaker 1: can we call this one meatbone? No reload? Oh reload?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's dead. Yeah, not meatbone, not meat bone, meat bone,

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Speaker 1: meat pump. Now a little bit something different tonight to

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Speaker 1: I mean, people, who are you know, on the air

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Speaker 1: Aparently the last twelve or fourteen hours, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: you were hated so much by Denzel Washington. I did

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Speaker 1: it's insane. I can't watch no I know.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that. But I mean, like, I was, like,

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Speaker 1: he's doing press for this new movie he's got coming

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Speaker 1: So he's doing press for this new movie, and he

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Speaker 1: He's doing the press rounds, and he wanted to make

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Speaker 1: sure that he spent time talking about He doesn't like

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Speaker 1: what big talking heads and people with microphones talk about

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Speaker 1: sports who haven't played it for a living. Here's Denzel

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Speaker 6: You know, I just want to call him opinionaires. They're

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Speaker 6: too much talk. Everybody got an opinion. Everybody's sitting around

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Speaker 6: and getting fatten, you know, thinking they know how to

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Speaker 6: do it. Just because you can sit behind the desk

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Speaker 6: and chit chat. That means you can do a damn thing.

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Speaker 6: Come get up here with me. Let's find out. Come,

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Speaker 6: get in the gym with me. Let's find out. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I don't know you you know, I know I can,

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Speaker 6: I can throw my hands, I can sure do it.

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Speaker 1: I can do it for real.

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Speaker 6: I don't talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Let me Skinny kid.

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Speaker 6: You know, who never played a day in his life,

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Speaker 6: and now he can get back at everybody because he's

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Speaker 6: got a mic in the space and show need to

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Speaker 1: Shut me an ass can't cook. Hey, God, So first

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Speaker 1: thing I want to say is this is everybody fat

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Speaker 1: behind a microphone or are we all skinny? Because he said,

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Speaker 1: never played the game, Like, I don't like you gotta

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Speaker 1: pick a lane. Man, You can't say we're fat and skinny?

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Speaker 3: Rights, Yeah, I mean by by having success behind a microphone,

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Speaker 3: even you haven't done anything and you're skinny and.

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Speaker 1: Getting fat, skinny people getting fat or fat people getting

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Speaker 3: just comment on movies. Yeah, he's doing all that to

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Speaker 3: promote the movie. And then okay, and then because he

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Speaker 1: Well, well here's the thing I think the best thing

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Speaker 1: to do im. Look, we can get into different aspects

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Speaker 1: of all. Apparently he hates all of us that haven't

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Speaker 1: and I like when he they asked him to pick

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Speaker 1: the big UFC fight coming up and he says, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't like I'm I'm I'm true to myself. I can't.

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Speaker 1: He'd be the worst sports talk radio host ever. Oh,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna win the fight? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 1: They're both great. Alvarez is great.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I can't pick. I can't pick. I can't pick. I

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Speaker 1: do is if Denzel says he doesn't like us, I

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Speaker 1: think it's only fair since we have microphones, you know,

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Speaker 1: and we're we're you know, we're we're both fat and skinny.

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Speaker 1: all right, Denzel, here's what I don't like. Here's what

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Speaker 1: I can't stand. Training day would have been one of

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Speaker 1: That that's how good Training Day was. Training Day was amazing,

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Speaker 1: and then you're ruin it in the last fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: because you have to have that crazy ass Oh this

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Speaker 1: happened to be my cousin and you saved my cousin,

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Speaker 1: and oh, I gotta have my.

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Speaker 2: Moment King Kong.

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Speaker 1: Ain't God knowing me? You gotta have ruined the movie

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Speaker 1: how good Training Day was. If you end it in

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Speaker 1: the scene in the bathroom, stop it with with Ethan Hawk, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Mets game, they'd be undefeated exactly. But you don't

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Speaker 1: do that. But you don't need the end of that.

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Speaker 1: But you know that was well you know, you know, no,

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Speaker 1: not need the end of that game. We needed like well,

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Speaker 1: we didn't need any of the Mets game tonight. But

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Speaker 1: you if you ended Training Day after that, it would

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Speaker 1: be Wow. That is that is one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: dramas of all time. It was shot well, the acting

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Speaker 1: was phenomenal. I love Denzel and how would you know

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Speaker 1: what the Russians? But it doesn't mean you just have

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Speaker 1: that scene at the end and say, here's what the

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Speaker 1: Russians are. But you have this stupid contrived ending of

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Speaker 1: oh wait, who is this? Oh you happen to save

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Speaker 1: my cousin earlier today, and then oh, now Denzel's a

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Speaker 1: it was such an incredible movie, but you have to

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Speaker 1: have them. You ruined. Here you go, Denzel, you ruined

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Speaker 1: about Training Day as being Wow, it's a really, really,

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Speaker 1: Why do you have Denzel Washington's back on this? Frostburg?

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Speaker 1: He hates you too, Actually he doesn't, Yeah he does.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, it's kind of like in move where

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Speaker 1: you just had the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws a few

436
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, and that was the movie that ushered in

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Speaker 1: the modern era of movies. And really, when you measure

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Speaker 1: movies against each other, it's kind of when Jaws debuted

439
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Speaker 1: to now and then before Jaws, so you kind of say, okay,

440
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Speaker 1: their late sixties, nineteen seventies in college football to today,

441
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Speaker 1: and then you had way before that where offense where

442
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Speaker 1: no one threw the football. The single wing offense was

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Speaker 1: the Mike Martz inspired scheme that was gonna win all

444
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Speaker 1: these games. They come out of the huddle in a snake.

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Speaker 1: We don't know where the ball is going. There's five

446
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Speaker 1: running backs. So I feel okay with that. The whole

447
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Speaker 1: recency buy is taking into account. I feel good with that.

448
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Speaker 1: I say this because you know two people I'm going

449
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Speaker 1: to say that should be on this list. You might

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Speaker 1: say recncy buyas. So I just want to throw that

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Speaker 1: out there for the beginning.

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Speaker 3: It's also, you know, it's all fine. It's based on

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Speaker 3: what you've seen, what you've done, whatever. Like we talk

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Speaker 3: about favorite movies, we may have some favorites from the

455
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Speaker 3: forties and fifties. They generally don't you know, we're broadcasting.

456
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Speaker 3: We're trying to grab everybody in. It's not a you know, hey,

457
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Speaker 3: the History Channel. Let me let me go back and

458
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Speaker 3: bring you back in. I'm not all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: bringing my guy in, you know, like he's doing ken

460
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Speaker 3: Burns and we're doing the you know, the retro. No, no, no, no,

461
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Speaker 3: We're trying to you know, appeal to the masses. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 3: you want to educate and inform, but you know, I

463
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Speaker 3: don't know, I have to spoon feed you. You have

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Speaker 3: to have seen so you could say, yeah, that guy

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Speaker 3: was really good as opposed to I don't know. Let

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Speaker 3: me go see what kind of loops from the black

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Speaker 3: and white footage they got for me here.

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Speaker 1: Now, the first thing I'm gonna say is this, because

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Speaker 1: I know this is a lot of controversy. Look, I'd

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Speaker 1: love to find a way to say this is not

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Speaker 1: the answer. But Tim Tebow is, according to the ap

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Speaker 1: List APIL best college quarterback of all time one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent agree. Nobody had the career Tim Tebow did, which

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Speaker 1: was two national championships and a Heisman Trophy. People forget,

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Speaker 1: oh well college, Yeah, you know in college he threw

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Speaker 1: for three thousand yards a year. He threw for thirty touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: This is not Tim t And also, oh, by the way, well,

478
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Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns is pretty good. His touchdowns he ran for

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Speaker 1: twenty three touchdowns in two thousand and seven. Right, thirty

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns passing twenty three touchdowns running. I have not

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Speaker 1: seen a better college quarterback at all levels of the

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Speaker 1: game than Tim Tebow. Again, college not pro. You're taking

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Speaker 1: this out of it. He's got the resume, he has

484
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Speaker 1: the numbers, he has the accomplishments. He's got a statue

485
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Speaker 1: because of the pregame sp or the postgame speech he

486
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Speaker 1: gave after a loss where they use that to spur

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Speaker 1: on to win a national title. Like, yeah, I am

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Speaker 1: all in. Tim Tebow is the best college quarterback. I've

489
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Speaker 1: said this before. He's the best college quarterback that I've

490
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Speaker 1: ever seen. And I have no issue with him being

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback on the list.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you actually even had him air yards per

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Speaker 3: attempt where he was a leader. It wasn't just a hey,

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Speaker 3: hitch and scheme. It up to where guys were sprinting

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Speaker 3: to daylight.

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Speaker 1: Or the jump passes on the golt where he would

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Speaker 1: you know, he would run to the line of scrimmage

498
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Speaker 1: and just do that jump pass, which I loved that

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Speaker 1: jump pass.

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Speaker 3: Well that just did I mean, I go all the

501
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Speaker 3: way back we had some of the guys. That was

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Speaker 3: some of the best plays the Bears had back at

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Speaker 3: the team.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, sure, that completely Watch what Vince Evans

505
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Speaker 1: does here. It's a jump pass to Walter Payton.

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Speaker 3: You used to do that every now and again. Yeah, yeah, certainly.

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Speaker 1: I am completely in on Tebow, and I know that

508
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Speaker 1: he's very polarizing because of how his professional career went.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, do you remember going back, the guy

510
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Speaker 1: was a monster, right. He came off the bench Florida's

511
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Speaker 1: first national championship with Urban Meyer. Right, he was the

512
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Speaker 1: relief quarterback Chris Leak was the starter and Florida was loaded.

513
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Speaker 1: He would come off the bench. And not the first

514
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Speaker 1: time we saw that in college football. Washington won a

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Speaker 1: national title in the nineties with Billy Joe Horbert playing

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Speaker 1: quarterback and Mark Brunell coming back from injury. We get

517
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Speaker 1: a couple of series of game, but Tibo would come

518
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Speaker 1: in and he would completely take over the game. It's

519
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Speaker 1: almost like when the Warriors were winning their titles, and

520
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Speaker 1: all the stars would go to the bench and here

521
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Speaker 1: comes a second unit and all of a sudden, wait,

522
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Speaker 1: the lead is now at fifteen.

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Speaker 3: It was eight?

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Speaker 1: How is it more? With Sean Livingston on the floor.

525
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Speaker 1: Like that's what Tebou did the first year he came in.

526
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Speaker 1: He would play a bunch of series. He would punish

527
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Speaker 1: people with runs up the middle, still able to throw

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Speaker 1: the football, and then of course he goes into national championship,

529
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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy, National Championship. I don't think there's any quarterback

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Speaker 1: as decorated overall as Tim Tebow in the modern era

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Speaker 1: of college football. Two titles of Heisman Trophy three years

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Speaker 1: ap all American quarterback. Like you're really searching for reasons basically,

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Speaker 1: just don't like t Bow. If you're saying, ah, he's

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Speaker 1: a great you just don't because there's no real way

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Speaker 1: I think you can cut it up. I mean, yes,

536
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Speaker 1: recency buys, but this goes back to the early two thousands.

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Speaker 1: You're kind of in the middle of the run of

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Speaker 1: college football from the seventies to where we are now.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, don't. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: I think people that are saying it's not Tebow, I

541
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Speaker 1: think you're just insane.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's also we talk about the change of the position.

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Speaker 3: We talk about it for the pros all the time,

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Speaker 3: right when we go back and look at statistics of

545
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Speaker 3: guys that are massive Hall of famers that don't get

546
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Speaker 3: there just due guys like Bradshaw, guys like a and

547
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Speaker 3: where it's like, well, bradshot through too many interceptions. Different

548
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Speaker 3: downfield passing game back then where interceptions weren't as scorned

549
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Speaker 3: and we didn't look so much in terms of touchdown

550
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Speaker 3: to interception ratio, Troy Aikman being a field general with

551
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Speaker 3: a lot of the run game and balance where you again,

552
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Speaker 3: you weren't trying to throw forty five touchdowns a year.

553
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Speaker 3: It wasn't all on your arm. Same thing in college football,

554
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Speaker 3: same kind of measurements along the way. And also for

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Speaker 3: Tim Tebow, I think he's the guy that it became

556
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Speaker 3: the poster boy for how great Even though there were

557
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Speaker 3: plenty that preceded him and plenty after him of college

558
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks who had great success and all these awards and

559
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Speaker 3: accomplishments and then didn't pan out at the pro level,

560
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Speaker 3: he became the poster child for that except for the

561
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Speaker 3: one throw to beat the Steelers in the playoffs. Other

562
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Speaker 3: than that, it was a good pro career that went

563
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Speaker 3: to the wayside. So it kind of just takes him

564
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Speaker 3: and takes what he did in college, and people try

565
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Speaker 3: to bury that a little bit. Can't do it here.

566
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Speaker 3: You have to go back and celebrate what he was.

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Speaker 1: Now where I disagree is he beats out Vince Young

568
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Speaker 1: as the greatest college football quarterback of all time. Vince

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Speaker 1: Young was great, Like you're talking about splitting here, some

570
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Speaker 1: of my greatest of all time. Vince Young gets all

571
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Speaker 1: that run because of the national championship game he had

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Speaker 1: against against USC. Vince Young was a great quarterback in college.

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Speaker 1: But you look at it. You look at his numbers

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Speaker 1: when he won nationally, like, okay, well, he threw for

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Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns and you know, he ran for twenty touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He had a thousand yards rushing. He threw for under

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Speaker 1: three thousand yards. Like, Vince Young was still a terrific quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but he wasn't great. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: as great as the guy I'm gonna say should be

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Speaker 1: number two. He but he gets the he gets this

581
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Speaker 1: nod all this because of that legendary Bowl game. He

582
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Speaker 1: hasn't Oh my goodness, right, but I think one game

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Speaker 1: you kind of have to back off, and all right, it's

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Speaker 1: one game. Does that really put him ahead of the

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Speaker 1: guy I'm gonna say and the guy I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: You can say recency biased, but I don't know that

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Speaker 1: anybody has had a season like what he's done in

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Speaker 1: the history of college football. And I'm going back to

589
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and I'm gonna say it should have been

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow number one, beating out Joe Burrow at number two.

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Speaker 1: Burrow had a great he had a great career, right,

592
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Speaker 1: really good. But his senior year, right, you're talking about

593
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Speaker 1: greatest players of all time when LSU won the national championship,

594
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Speaker 1: won the Heisman, he threw sixty touchdowns. Man sixty touchdowns.

595
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Speaker 1: When we want to celebrate Vince Young, for hey, he

596
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Speaker 1: had thirty five touchdowns, and here's sixty touchdowns. He threw

597
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Speaker 1: for fifty six hundred yards. His completion percentage was seventy

598
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Speaker 1: six percent. This guy made an absolute mockery of college football.

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Speaker 1: And yes, he had talented guys around him, but you

600
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Speaker 1: saw him. But I remember in college going, man, this

601
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Speaker 1: guy is Eli Manning on steroids, and mean I mean

602
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Speaker 1: metaphorical steroids, Like he knows I'm going with the football

603
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Speaker 1: to a spot where I know my wide receiver is

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Speaker 1: gonna win a one on one battle. He always made

605
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Speaker 1: the right decision, he read the field well. Again, it's

606
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Speaker 1: hard to get past that ten and a half yards

607
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Speaker 1: per attempt. Like all these other numbers, these video game

608
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Speaker 1: numbers that these guys have had over the course of

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Speaker 1: their career. I mean, you want to put that up,

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Speaker 1: it pales against Joe Burrow. Now, Burrow had the one

611
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Speaker 1: great year like the year before was good for him,

612
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Speaker 1: but he really exploded. But it doesn't matter. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about one of the greatest college football players to ever

614
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Speaker 1: play and one season of sixty touchdowns with oh, by

615
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Speaker 1: the way, six interceptions, so at ten to one touchdown

616
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Speaker 1: to interception ratio ratio. First team All American win National Championship.

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Speaker 1: I mean sixty and fifty six hundred yards man fifty

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Speaker 1: six hundred yards in thirteen games, not fifty six hundred

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Speaker 1: yards in eighteen games like you would get if you

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Speaker 1: played in the NFL and you had an extra game

621
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Speaker 1: in the regular season. But this season, it's hard to

622
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Speaker 1: look back and say, yeah, it's anything but Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it gives Tim Tebow a run. But Tebow

624
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Speaker 1: had the level of excellence and all the stuff he's

625
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Speaker 1: able to accomplish with three years of being being absolute

626
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Speaker 1: terrific and specifically his last two years, that gives me

627
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Speaker 1: the nod for him over Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: Well, like the like the Joe Burrow pick. I also

629
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Speaker 3: add five rushing touchdowns along the way in that magnificent season,

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Speaker 3: I'd be REMISSI we didn't at least give a give

631
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Speaker 3: a nod to the longevity, history and brilliance of Tommy Fraser.

632
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Speaker 3: Right Heisman runner up, two time National title, legend, All

633
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Speaker 3: America MVP, and three three Big Bowl games. I mean

634
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Speaker 3: all of that, you know, just check check check check.

635
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Speaker 3: So longevity, and you know, talking about the outlier seasons

636
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Speaker 3: for Young and and for Burrow, magnificent seasons that they were.

637
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Speaker 3: But you know the career of Tommy Fraser, so I

638
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Speaker 3: guess it. You know, we kind of quibble as to,

639
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: you know, the build and longevity of a guy's run

640
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: versus that flash because you and I were on air

641
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: for the Burrow stuff and just talking about that weekly

642
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: was insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was. And you know, and the thing is,

644
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Speaker 1: Tommy Fraser gets a lot of run. And I think

645
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Speaker 1: he gets more run because he was the quarterback of

646
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Speaker 1: that great run of Nebraska teams. Right. I think that

647
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Speaker 1: because you look at what he did. You think, okay,

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Speaker 1: if you said, what were Tommy Fraser's numbers, like, well,

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Speaker 1: he probably ran for a thousand yards every year, was

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Speaker 1: a great running quarterback. He probably threw for you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple thousand, you know, maybe two thousand yards. His

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Speaker 1: best year throwing the football was thirteen hundred yards, right,

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Speaker 1: His best year running the football was seven hundred yards.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: The last two years where he was so great. You know,

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Speaker 1: look that the one year he was injured in ninety four,

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Speaker 1: he didn't play a lot, right, he only played four games,

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Speaker 1: but he ran for six hundred seven hundred yards, four

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Speaker 1: hundred yards. It's not like he was you know, Vince,

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Speaker 1: he was Vince Young. But but he gets but it

661
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Speaker 1: was a different time in college football. And I get that,

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Speaker 1: and being the MVP of the bowl games and the

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Speaker 1: national title games, I understand that. But when you look

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Speaker 1: at the percentage of offense that he was responsible for.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, yeah, I have no problem keeping him

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Speaker 1: a little bit lower on the list.

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Speaker 3: Let me give you one more guy, camw.

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Speaker 1: I thought you. I know you're gonna say you a

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Speaker 1: more guy, Kyle McCord. Yeah, okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: Wow, No, come on, you're all still in feeling all

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Speaker 3: sad about your mets. I can't try to make you

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Speaker 3: feel better by bringing the cord up. All right.

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Speaker 1: Uh so they got Look we got more on this

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Speaker 1: list because yay, some great stuff they got right with

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Speaker 1: running backs and stuff. They didn't get right with running backs.

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Speaker 1: But telling me man, Tim Tebow number one, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: like Burrow, you got Tommy Fraser, Cam Newton had a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal year in twenty ten. I mean, that's why this

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Speaker 1: is a great, great list. Time now to find out

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Speaker 1: what's trending in the wide world of sports with someone

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Speaker 1: who is on the first team AP All American list

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Speaker 1: of Update anchors. It's Monte Milagna. What an honor, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what an honor. Thank you so much. Three years of excellence.

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Speaker 1: One year you were hurt. You only did a couple

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Speaker 1: of updates. But that's okay, you know, yeah, no.

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Speaker 7: You're right, you're right, what and honor pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 7: Happy Thursday, guys. One game going on in baseball and

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Speaker 7: it's the Diamondbacks in the Rocky Easy gotch all this

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Speaker 7: action on FS one. Diamond Backs up eight to one

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Speaker 7: right now, bottom of the seventh inning, about to start.

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Speaker 1: All the other games have wrapped up.

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Speaker 7: Glaber Torres with the sock flying the eleventh inning as

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Speaker 7: a Tigers held on four to three against the Twins.

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Speaker 7: Ozzie Alby's had a home run total of three RBI

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Speaker 7: and the Braves edge the Mets four to three. The

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Speaker 7: Guardians scored four runs in the seventh inning and to

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Speaker 7: beat the Marlins nine to four. Cleveland is now half

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Speaker 7: a game back on the Yankees for the final Waldcart

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Speaker 7: spot in the AL. The Nationals handed the Phillies are

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Speaker 7: third straight loss, coming out on top three to two.

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Speaker 7: Orioles snapped the Mariners winning streak yesterday. They won again

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Speaker 7: today five to three. Vladimir Gairero Junior with the two

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Speaker 7: run shot. Blue Jays beat the Cubs to one. In

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Speaker 7: NFL news, Chargers announced that Justin Herbert is going to

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Speaker 7: start our quarterback in their preseason game on Saturday against

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Speaker 7: the Rams. It's gonna be Herbert's first career preseason appearance.

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Speaker 7: Cowboys announced that Joe Milton is going to start our

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Speaker 7: quarterback Saturday against the Ravens. You're not going to see

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Speaker 7: JJ McCarthy for the Vikings because they announced that it's

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Speaker 7: going to be Sam Howell who starts at quarterback for

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Speaker 7: their second preseason game against the Patriots. When it comes

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Speaker 7: to quarterback Matthew Stafford, Rams head coach Sean McVay mentioned

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Speaker 7: that he is going to have a workout on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Stafford has not practiced.

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Speaker 7: During training camp because of an aggravated disc in his back.

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Speaker 7: And lastly here Chief Swade receiver Rashid Rice has a

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Speaker 7: disciplinary hearing scheduled for September thirtieth. Rice will remain eligible

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Speaker 7: to play for the Chiefs first four games of the season,

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Speaker 7: barring the reaching of a disciplinary settlement beforehand.

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Speaker 1: Come up next, An NFL story from today that I'm

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Speaker 1: honestly surprised we haven't done before today. That's next right here,

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Speaker 1: G I wonder who the play of the day is

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Speaker 1: gonna be? Hmmm if we're playing Ozzie. I wonder. Jason

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Speaker 1: Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio Studios. An NFL story that I'm really surprised we're

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Speaker 1: doing today for the first time coming up in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But first we have the Play of the Day, which

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Speaker 1: is the way tire buying should be. So let me think, Hmm,

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Speaker 1: we play Ozzy Osbourne song, Hmm, that must mean somebody

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Speaker 1: named Ozzie must be the play of the day.

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Speaker 2: To white Field a pretty deep.

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Speaker 1: And Braves TV on the call as I, uh open

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Speaker 1: a diet coke of despair.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you didn't go full on in so

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Speaker 3: you know you're not just tablespooning some sugar indias, So

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Speaker 3: you're okay.

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Speaker 1: It's just comical, man, It's just comical.

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Speaker 3: Now, are you too? And ten since the deadline or

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Speaker 3: something like that?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And uh, I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: the baseball gods let the Mets win. When Alonzo broke

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Speaker 1: the record for Darrel Star, Okay, we got to give

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Speaker 1: him that. But now we're not gonna win another game,

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Speaker 1: not gonna This has been the worst run of baseball

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Speaker 1: in New York.

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Speaker 3: In yeah, both sides, absolutely absurd.

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Speaker 1: Both the Mets and the Yankees are both holding onto

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Speaker 1: the last wild card by a game. Reds fans have

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Speaker 1: to wake up every day and go man, the Mets

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Speaker 1: find a way to lose all the time. This is great.

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Speaker 1: We're not great, but hey, if the other team loses

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Speaker 1: every day and we go five hundred, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: a wild card. Like that's I mean, I can't get

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Speaker 1: over it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what's funny is he? Uh? Alonzo also

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Speaker 3: inscribed a ball that said down goes Straw that has

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Speaker 3: people up in arms in New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that could be the I would say the

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Speaker 1: Curse of the Pin a Lonzo ball, But we've been

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Speaker 1: losing way before that, so it really doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's.

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Speaker 1: Difference.

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Speaker 3: Well, did you did you lose a bet with you know?

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Speaker 3: Did did you meet down at the crossroads and you

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Speaker 3: had an expiration date that you misread or what?

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I want to tell you. We uh green

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Speaker 1: lit a little script called Damn Mets, which is a

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Speaker 1: sequel to Damn Yankees. And apparently last year the year

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Speaker 1: that I bargained my soul for. So yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: gotta remember next time, bargain your soul for winning the

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Speaker 1: World Series not making the NLCS. I gotta remember that.

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Speaker 1: That's what helps. So in the NF I really am

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Speaker 1: surprised we haven't done this story before.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: CBSTV in Georgia misspelled quarterback Michael Pennix's name, and you

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Speaker 1: can imagine exactly how it was spelled for a few

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Speaker 1: seconds before they fixed it, you know, doing his press conference,

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Speaker 1: ya coming off after practice, and it said Michael Pennix,

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Speaker 1: except the X was replaced with an S and it

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Speaker 1: was up for a few seconds. Then it was hot chicked,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, just has to get up there once everybody

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Speaker 1: sees it. The Internet. Things live forever, and I'll be

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Speaker 1: on you know, you could say, how does this happen?

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Speaker 1: How does this happen? Hows this happened? I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I really can't believe it hasn't happened before now. I

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Speaker 1: mean not just because X and S are so close

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Speaker 1: to each other on the on the keyboard where you

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Speaker 1: could you type it and miss and do it, but like, really,

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Speaker 1: like that's been the thing with his name since he

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Speaker 1: was a quarterback in Indiana. It's been Oh, someone's gonna

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Speaker 1: make that mistake. You know, someone's gonna make that mistake. Really,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe we got all the way to year

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Speaker 1: two in the NFL before it happened.

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Speaker 3: We didn't have anything where they had to scrub it

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Speaker 3: off a broadcast or made fun of it. I didn't

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Speaker 3: go down the full rabbit hole, but I'm I can't

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Speaker 3: remember it. So that's kind of impressive that it means

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Speaker 3: that people really put that as a point of emphasis

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Speaker 3: on all of their call sheets, all of their addiction

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Speaker 3: to make sure, all right, I'm gonna get this right.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go slowly so we don't have any excited utterances.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because I know, I know absolutely how it happened.

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Speaker 1: Because a control room on television, you know, working in

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Speaker 1: control as I did for a long time, it's a machine, right.

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Speaker 1: You trust the people to type stuff and put it

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Speaker 1: at You know, there's there's fifteen or twenty people in

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Speaker 1: a control room. There's a director, there's a technical director.

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Speaker 1: There's people doing Chiron's, which are the fonts on TV.

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Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of people doing their jobs. And

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Speaker 1: wait when they go on the air. It is a machine, Okay,

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Speaker 1: chron get ready, put it in, put it in, great,

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Speaker 1: take it out, take it out? Ready ready, camera four,

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Speaker 1: go here, And you trust everybody to do their jobs.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is is that it's really the producer's job,

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Speaker 1: because basically the producer gets the show ready and then

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Speaker 1: turns it over to the director when they're in the

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Speaker 1: when they're in the in the studio and okay, and

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Speaker 1: the producers really a troubleshooter, keeping everybody the time, figuring

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Speaker 1: out issues like it's the producer's job to see Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's a font before it goes on screen, because you

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Speaker 1: see it's it's a it's in like a preview window

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Speaker 1: where you see it before it goes up. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure no one just saw it because they've typed Michael

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Speaker 1: Pennox's name a thousand times before. Here it is Michael PENNOCKX.

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Speaker 1: Insert there it is. Wait oh and then you see

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Speaker 1: what's on the air. Wait, change it. It's an X.

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Speaker 1: It's an X. Change it, okay, hot change it and

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Speaker 1: it goes up. But I see how it does because

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Speaker 1: the way a control room is is that when when

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Speaker 1: you do shows for a living for so long, and

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Speaker 1: you're doing two or three new shows a day, the

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Speaker 1: same crew is doing it. Yeah, stuff like this is

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Speaker 1: gonna happen because there's not there's not as many people

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Speaker 1: to throw the emergency brake and which is why I'm

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Speaker 1: really surprised it didn't happen until now. With Michael Pennix's name.

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Speaker 3: Also, a lot fewer people to throw under the bus.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who take here's the fall guy for this?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well the person No, the person typing the

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Speaker 1: name in.

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Speaker 3: That's okay. So you can go all the way back

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Speaker 3: to them and not you know, all the checks and

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00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: balances up the ladder. I mean someone's you know, someone's

863
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: in charge, not that.

864
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: Guy and the thing right, but I mean you're the

865
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: but you trust that person to do that job and

866
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: to and to put and to put the fonts in

867
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Speaker 1: right because they do it all the time. And all right,

868
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: that's great. This is the fonts. This is so and so.

869
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: Who's you know, a mayor's aid, this is so and so,

870
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: concerned citizen. You know all the fonts that go up there,

871
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: Trust them, trust trying to move up the ladder. I'm

872
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: gonna put an ess in for Michael Pennix. Want everybody

873
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: in this room.

874
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: I see what I slacker this guy is. He's not

875
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: doing any of the checks on my work, so blank him.

876
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: I'm doing all the grunt worth work and all he

877
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: does is just to point.

878
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: Exit out bout a Fresca exit swollen Dome. Jason Smith,

879
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: Mike Harmon. Coming up next, we get back into the

880
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: biggest football debate of the day. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon.

881
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Radio. And it's been as bad

882
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: a time baseball wise for the three highest market teams

883
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: in baseball, the Dodgers, the Mets, and the Yankees. Nobody

884
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: is happy with the three biggest fan bases and the

885
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: three biggest markets teams in the biggest markets on all

886
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: of baseball. Like they're all struggling so much. The Dodgers,

887
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: as we spent all this money and brought all these

888
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: guys in and we're looking up at the Padres and

889
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: the Mets like we went and gave Juan Soto seven

890
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty million dollars and we can't win. And

891
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: the Yankees are saying we were just in the World

892
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: Series and now we're struggling to stay ahead of the

893
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: Red Sox who quit in the beginning of April, Like

894
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: this is it. This is his bad as it's been

895
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: for those three teams all together in a long time.

896
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: Man, boo, Well, and then you go and let's rope

897
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: in the North side of Chicago, where things were great

898
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: for long on stole Kyle Tucker. As people point out,

899
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: he's got as many RBIs in the month of August

900
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: as you and I do combined. I think it's better

901
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: than PCA style.

902
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think PCA has as many strikeouts this month

903
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: as Kyle Tucker has RBIs.

904
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: Oh. No, I was gonna, I was gonna get to him,

905
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: because I mean, we're talking about a guy who hasn't

906
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: hasn't done anything positive in a long time.

907
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like, he's like eight for his last

908
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety at bats. Like, let's Pete crow Arms.

909
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: Pretty amazing for a guy that was second in MVP

910
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: balloting and odds for a good three months.

911
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: They went from leading the NL Central and I thought

912
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: a little bit before the deadline, I would say not

913
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: quite at the deadline, But when we got to the

914
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: beginning of July, I thought, this lineup, they're gonna wind

915
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: up with the best record in Major League Baseball. They're

916
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: gonna best record because the look the Padres are really good,

917
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: the Giants are hanging around the Dodgers. You know, you

918
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of games and division. The Diamondbacks are

919
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: still pretty good. Okay, Uh, they're gonna have a tough time,

920
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: you know, getting the having the most wins, and it's

921
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: gonna be the Cubs. And now instead they're going into

922
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: this weekend series saying, hey, we could it could be

923
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: over after this because it once a seven and a

924
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: half game lead for the Brewers. Now, so yeah, you

925
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: want to talk the top three and then the White

926
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: Sox are the White Sox. All you talk about the

927
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: top three markets in all of Major League Baseball, it's bad. Man.

928
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: I still would rather be the Dodgers ahead of out

929
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: all of those because clearly the path to winning. The

930
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: Dodgers still have that great path because they're their team

931
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: is just so good it's too big to fail. But man,

932
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know when it's been this much

933
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: hitting the skids, how depressed a fan base is in

934
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: the top three markets in a while, because they all

935
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: have expectations. It's one thing to come into a season

936
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: go oh we stink we're not in the good Okay, no,

937
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: but you have expectations for the first two and a

938
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: half three months and now suddenly it's what the hell

939
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: has happened to us?

940
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: Well? But I mean, go through those four teams. The

941
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: only one that got active at the deadline and it

942
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: just hasn't worked was the Yankees. But he else more

943
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: or less stood pad on where they were, particularly the Cubs.

944
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: They brought in Soroka. Okay, great that that did nothing,

945
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: and then your offense went to hell for the Dodgers,

946
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: you know, they did all the off season work and

947
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: then it became a all right, everybody's gonna get healthy

948
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: and we're gonna run through and look now Mookie Bets

949
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: is hitting. Then that's great, but it hasn't been able

950
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: to offset some of the other fails. And the bullpen

951
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: with tired arms just go around into all of these

952
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 3: your guys with with the Mets. You've been joking about

953
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: it for months, just saying, can we just get somebody

954
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: one more armed to spell one of these guys? So yeah,

955
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 3: on fumes as we go through in the final six

956
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: weeks are interestingly and look at the brus did all

957
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: this even with Churio uh and Misowski on the IL.

958
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean Misowski at least got a mega

959
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: charge is Ard.

960
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: So so it was showing that you know, all those

961
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: guys were living right because even then he's buying boxes

962
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: of cards and scorn.

963
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: I mean it is just it is bleak for these teams.

964
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: It is bleak when you think about going forward, like

965
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: like watching some of these teams like that, it's not like, hey,

966
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: they've lost a couple of games and somebody's got hot.

967
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: It's it's been subpar play for months, right. It's the

968
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: Dodgers had a great record to start the last two months,

969
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: under five hundred. Met's the same way, Yankees the same way,

970
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: Cubs the same way. It's just for the Led to

971
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: just hit the skids after all this expectation that that's

972
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: that's really difficult, man. I mean, bleak is a great word.

973
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 3: They know.

974
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: We don't use bleak enough. I think bleak is a

975
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: really good word.

976
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 3: That's good. I mean we've used peaky, but we haven't

977
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: used sure. I mean there is bleaker streets. So we

978
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: talk horror movies, we get into that.

979
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: But uh so, speaking of horror movies, no, no, we're

980
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. Uh So I mentioned a few

981
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: minutes ago. Look, the big sports debate of the day,

982
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: the most fun debate. Uh The Associated Press came out

983
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: with their All American list of the best players to

984
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: ever play college football, at every position. Right, So this

985
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: is basically the Associated Press put out, here's the best

986
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: players in the history of college football the first team.

987
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: The best quarterback is Tim Tebow. The best too, because

988
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: there's two wide receiver spots. It's Randy Moss and Larry Fitzgerald.

989
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: Bill Freelick is on the offensive line. And you see

990
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: some of the names and some of the legends, and

991
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: it's fun to sit here and go, wow, man, in

992
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: one hundred some odd years of college football, here's the

993
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: AP saying these are the best players, and it's an

994
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: awesome list. And we talked about the quarterbacks a few

995
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: minutes ago, and you know, look the wide receivers. It's

996
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: hard to argue with Randy Moss and Larry Fitzgerald. Again,

997
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: recency bias, I understand. But when you get to the

998
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: running backs. The running backs again is where I say, yeah,

999
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: they got one really right and one really wrong, and

1000
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: the one they got really right. I don't think there's

1001
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: anybody arguing with Barry Sanders having the greatest college football

1002
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: season as a running back ever. I mean, I mean,

1003
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: you're going back to nineteen eighty nine, which again is

1004
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: in the middle of the modern era, which if you

1005
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: want to say, is late sixties to now in college football,

1006
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 1: there was nothing. There was nothing like Barrys and Er season.

1007
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: It was jaw dropping, it was it was it was

1008
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: so impressive every single week, the sheer amount of of

1009
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: yards he put up. I mean, and look in a

1010
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: great career as well, But when all of a sudden,

1011
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: it became, boy, this guy might be the best college

1012
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: running back we've ever seen. I mean, even though you've

1013
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: had other guys with great years, Reggie Bush had a

1014
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: great year winning the Heisman Trophy. We'll get to other

1015
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: guys as well, but I mean, I don't think you

1016
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: can question that. Barry Sanders, you know, his nineteen eighty

1017
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: nine Yeah, that puts him at the top of that list.

1018
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that eighty eight eighty nine run that he had

1019
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: just absurd. Right, So he comes into the league on

1020
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: eighty nine Heisman Trophy, twenty six twenty eight, thirty seven

1021
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: touchdowns in eleven games. Yeah, I mean, that's just insane.

1022
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: You think about the numbers, you know, averaging averaging seven

1023
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: and a half yards of carry, like, not five yards

1024
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: of carry, not five and a half, seven and a

1025
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: half yards. Money ball stafts better in college come money ball,

1026
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: come moneyball, Ron Dain, Let's get come on, let's get

1027
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: on those big Wisconsin backs. Monty ball. Wow, looks in

1028
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: college Monty ball. No, Monty Monty ball had had had

1029
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: some great stuff. Was not Barry Sanders, he was not.

1030
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: He was not Barry Sanders. Now, I mean when Barry said,

1031
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: because I remember when he came in, it was it's

1032
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: kind of like when a when a new rock band

1033
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: just shows up out of nowhere and you go, oh

1034
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 1: my goodness, I didn't know anybody could be this good,

1035
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know anybody could move like Barry Sanders

1036
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: and do that right, Because in the late eighties it

1037
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: was still the big running backs in football, were the

1038
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: big bruisers that were These are the guys you gave

1039
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: the ball to thirty three, thirty five times a game.

1040
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: Guys like John Riggins. The smaller guys. Yeah, now they

1041
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: don't really get the ball quite as much because they

1042
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: can't withstand the pounding. So yeah, they're electric and they'll

1043
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: give you highlights, but they're not they're not. Somebody can

1044
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: give the ball to a ton, they're not gonna take

1045
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: it to the house all the time. But that's exactly

1046
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: what Barry Sanders. Did I mean Barry Sanders? I mean,

1047
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: come on, twenty seven hundred yards Heisman Trophy. I don't

1048
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: MONTI Ball had a couple of years close to two thousand,

1049
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: but that's still you know, you're talking eight hundred yards

1050
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: shy of Barry Sanders.

1051
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: All right, let's have some fun with numbers and history

1052
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: for Annie Ball. You're you're looking at a guy that

1053
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: got to nineteen twenty three on the ground, three h

1054
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: six in the air, total of thirty nine touchdowns in

1055
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, eighteen hundred and thirty yards and twenty two

1056
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 3: touchdowns for the encore. For me, I was tormented, you know,

1057
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 3: in the post, and he was a little bit after

1058
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 3: my run in terms of my school days, but I

1059
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: was still spending a lot of time up in Evanston

1060
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: watching Ron Daye the ball carrier. Oh sure, where his

1061
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: name was mentioned so often that you thought his name

1062
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: was Dane the ballcarrier, like he was in you know,

1063
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: the old English Times, you know whatever your occupation was

1064
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 3: added in the ballcarrier total of seven than one hundred

1065
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: yards for him, seventy one touchdowns in his career.

1066
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, he was terrific and a lot of that

1067
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: to the offense. I remember seeing Ron Day just get

1068
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: the ball and able to stop behind an offensive line

1069
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: and put his hand on a guard and where to

1070
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: push him because there's nobody there. Like the blocking scheme

1071
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: they had in Wisconsin was fantastic. Look, look, you're splitting

1072
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: hairs as you talk about who the greatest of all

1073
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Speaker 1: time is and the other running back on this list,

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Speaker 1: because there's two running backs right is Barry Sanders and

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Speaker 1: herschel Walker, who had three phenomenal years at Georgia, burst

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Speaker 1: on the scene as a freshman in nineteen eighty again

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Speaker 1: someone we hadn't seen that power of speed and size

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Speaker 1: and herschel Walker was tremendous. Yeah, I'm not gonna go

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Speaker 1: with herschel Walker because come right after he left Mike

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Speaker 1: Roziers nineteen eighty three with Nebraska, the guy averaged eight

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Speaker 1: yards of carry. He ran for twenty six hundred yards

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Speaker 1: like the he was the entire Nebraska offense. This is

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Speaker 1: the This is the Nebraska team that went to the

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Speaker 1: National Championship and lost the big game against Miami when

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Speaker 1: Nebraska went for two at the end and didn't get it,

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Speaker 1: and they would have won the national title. But remember

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Speaker 1: Mike Rozier going, this guy is meant against boys. This

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Speaker 1: guy's gonna take I'm even at you know, fourteen years

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Speaker 1: however old I was to what thirteen forty. Can't wait

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Speaker 1: till this guy gets to the NFL. He's gonna be unreal.

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Speaker 1: But I mean that that's the kind of year that

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Speaker 1: you look at numbers and see what herschel Walker. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: herschel Walker's great, but go look at Mike Rozier. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy was. It was It was just like seeing

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Speaker 1: a season with with Barry Sanders twenty six hundred yards

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Speaker 1: seven and a half yards ran for thirty seven touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know that they ran the ball a

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Speaker 1: lot in Nebraska, but thirty seven touchdowns, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a that's an un that's an unreal year

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Speaker 1: for him. I mean, this is this is Mike Rozier

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Speaker 1: with just a I mean sorry, seven point eight yards

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Speaker 1: of carry that he had, Like I said, we had

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Speaker 1: eight yards of carry. I mean that was I remember

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Speaker 1: watching him going, Nebraska, how are they ever gonna get beat?

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Speaker 1: Like Oklahoma Nebraska yet that's the big game, But how's

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Speaker 1: Nebraska ever gonna get beat with this guy? Where every

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Speaker 1: time he touches the football. It's it's just it's like

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Speaker 1: a it's like a video game. This is back in

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Speaker 1: the mid eighties where it happened.

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Speaker 3: How about one more for the debate, Mark Sallin go

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Speaker 3: back to usc with Marcus Allen nineteen eighty one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: twenty three forty twenty two touchdowns on the ground. Add

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Speaker 3: another well, twenty nine catches two seventeen, so not huge,

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Speaker 3: but Heisman, Maxwell, you name it, all the awards. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is fun going down memory lane because looking at

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Speaker 3: you know, Gail Sayers, because you know, trying to get

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Speaker 3: a little bit of me in there. But you've got

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Speaker 3: averaging six point five yards per carry, had all the big,

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Speaker 3: big accolades, but total touchdowns just eighteen on the ground

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Speaker 3: in his three years in Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's the running backs are

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Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult because it was such a

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Speaker 1: run heavy game. Uh until you got to really really

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Speaker 1: even into into the nineties, it was still such a

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Speaker 1: run heavy game where quarterbacks that came into the NFL, hey,

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Speaker 1: they were in some of the past happy offenses, but

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Speaker 1: they never put the numbers up. It was more what

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Speaker 1: they could project to be in the NFL. Most teams

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Speaker 1: that won still were saying, we have a running back

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Speaker 1: that we give the football thirty times a game, right,

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Speaker 1: this is how we're gonna win with defense. College football

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Speaker 1: evolved late and then when you got into the early

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Speaker 1: two thousands, where other teams that weren't as good as

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Speaker 1: the Nebraska, as the Oklahoma's, the Miamis, the Penn States,

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Speaker 1: the Michigan said Hey, what we're gonna do is we're

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Speaker 1: gonna spread the field, put out put out four or

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Speaker 1: five receivers, and just spray the football. And we know

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Speaker 1: the quarterback is the guy we're gonna build around. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna even the field with us. That really ushered in

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Speaker 1: the era, the modern era of the great college football

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Speaker 1: quarterback that you started to see the numbers explode. It

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Speaker 1: is a little bit more. It's a little bit easier

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Speaker 1: with quarterbacks because you're talking about you're only going back

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Speaker 1: like maybe twenty five years or thirty years with the

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Speaker 1: absolute greats because they were given more responsibility. The running

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Speaker 1: backs is as much harder because you go back to

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Speaker 1: Archie Griffin right like in the late sixties and back

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Speaker 1: to back Heisman trophies and say Yeah, Well there's this

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Speaker 1: running back and this running back and this running back.

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Speaker 1: So it is much harder running back than it is

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Speaker 1: a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So I would say this, while we're talking about the

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Speaker 3: change of games and we're talking eras in college football,

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Speaker 3: why is Joe Tiller not in the College Football Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame?

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe Tiller. Well maybe when Drew Brees gets in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, he'll say something and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: Joe Tiller needs to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: But saying get it. You know, he's in the Indiana

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Speaker 3: Halls of Fame. But it's time time to look at

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Speaker 3: it in terms of what he meant to changing. I mean,

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Speaker 3: certainly a conference, if not the game altogether, with what

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Speaker 3: he instituted at Purdue.