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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, believe it or not. Pitchers and catchers

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Speaker 2: the corner. Richie. Here we are one week away from

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Speaker 4: One week away, and with promises to make because we

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Speaker 4: have just been fed for like the past four weeks

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Speaker 4: by Monsey Belanos, our update anchor. Yes, springing breakfast Britos

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Speaker 4: every single morning that we do the show.

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Speaker 5: So I think we're in two weeks to make up.

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Speaker 2: For it exactly. We haven't seen her her on Saturdays,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like I see her all the time.

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Speaker 6: Okay, and she's always here. She never actually leaves, even

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Speaker 6: when she's not here. I believe she's hovering somewhere above

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Speaker 6: the drop ceilings, waiting to pounce on you.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 4: The the Britos are. I'm very thankful. Next week, I

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Speaker 4: think we got to throw a Super Bowl party.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're actually going to do a five hour shows now,

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Speaker 2: a new tradition here on Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 5: So now be here the whole time, So an extra.

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Speaker 3: Hour tagged onto our normal time slode. We're getting ready.

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Speaker 2: For will bring mo and we'll bring pizza and we'll

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Speaker 2: bring wings.

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Speaker 5: I love everything you're saying.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, you're you're distracting me right now because

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Speaker 3: I've been trying to watch the Pro Bowl dodgeball.

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Speaker 5: Euposition, excuse us.

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Speaker 2: Dodge miss competition. I mean, what the heck is no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: what do you mean? It's a spirited rivalry between the

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Speaker 2: AFC and the NFC.

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Speaker 4: This has been dating back for years, literally two years,

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Speaker 4: and it's amazing. Steve.

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Speaker 2: Here's the amazing thing.

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Speaker 3: They literally showed uh snapping the football like you know,

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Speaker 3: center snaps into targets.

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Speaker 2: That was that followed by dodgeball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and as long as it's got an NFL logo

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Speaker 3: on it, it'll blow away anything else.

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Speaker 2: In the radiance. And it does not matter. And it

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Speaker 2: does and it does. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I had this conversation this week on my other show,

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Speaker 4: and I was saying, if you're really that upset about

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Speaker 4: about the Pro Bowl, like you are missing the point.

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Speaker 4: They have completely moved the Pro Bowl away from anything

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Speaker 4: that resembles something that adults should be interested in.

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Speaker 2: This is for kids. I mean, look at the colors.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's blue and it's pink, and it's red,

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Speaker 4: and it looks like the inside of like a video game.

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Speaker 2: You know they have. Did you see this files Killer Brew?

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Speaker 3: He had five footballs and he was able to field.

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Speaker 2: That was awesome. What are we watching now? What we're watching?

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Speaker 4: What we're watching is something for kids. You're watching some

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Speaker 4: of the greatest players on the planet, greatest athletes on

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Speaker 4: the planet.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine back in the old days, Johnny and

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Speaker 3: Iis or Jim Brown involved in the Shenanigans.

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Speaker 4: I could, because you know what, a lot of those

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Speaker 4: guys are dads, you know, And when you think about it,

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Speaker 4: that's what this is about.

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Speaker 6: It.

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Speaker 2: It's not for the adult sports fan anymore.

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Speaker 3: But it used to be a game way back, way

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Speaker 3: back where you were testing yourself against the best players

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Speaker 3: and it meant something if you played well against the

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Speaker 3: best players in the league. So anyway, we're watching the

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Speaker 3: dodgeball competition right now.

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Speaker 4: Are you good at dodgeball? I'm one of the best ever. Really,

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Speaker 4: I'm honestly, I want to say it was junior high

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Speaker 4: school we played dodgeball. Sorry meeting in Brita while I'm

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Speaker 4: talking about that's again, we played dodgeball and it was

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Speaker 4: I missed science, I missed math. I was on the court.

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Speaker 4: I literally I sweat so much I think I lost

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Speaker 4: Dodgeball can get really, really heated, and I haven't seen that.

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Speaker 4: To the player's credit, nobody's gotten so competitive that it's

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Speaker 4: gotten ugly. But there are times where dodgeball game over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're not watching and you get

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Speaker 2: It's a rubber ball, but I mean it stings.

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Speaker 3: It stings a little bit. By the way, there will

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Speaker 3: be the much coveted flag football game coming up, so

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Speaker 3: we'll actually have some football competition, all right. So here

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Speaker 3: we are as we get ready for this big game

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Speaker 3: week in the past, and I don't want to get

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Speaker 3: overblown and what transpired in the conference championship games other

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Speaker 3: than the fact that based on how those games should

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Speaker 3: have been laid out by the teams that lost, they

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Speaker 3: should be the teams in the Super Bowl. The Lions

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Speaker 3: should be here, so should the Baltimore Ravens. But a

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Speaker 3: miscalculation and coaching by both of those coaches. And it's

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Speaker 3: not a knock on Dan Campbell, who's done an unbelievable

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Speaker 3: job to bring the Lions to relevance, or John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 3: whose resume speaks for itself.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's start with John Harbaugh for a second.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Thirty seven passes by Lamar Jackson in a game that

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Speaker 3: was a one score game. You were never down two scores.

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Speaker 3: The entire game. It's a one score game. Thirty seven

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Speaker 3: passes to Lamar Jackson. They ran the ball eighteen times.

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Speaker 3: You're the number one rushing offense in the league, going against,

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Speaker 3: by the way, the number one pass defense.

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Speaker 2: In the league.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of you know, heat on Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 3: who's now two and four of the postseason. But I'm thinking,

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Speaker 3: You've got a veteran coach, a Super Bowl winning coach,

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Speaker 2: Figure out, what are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: We were watching at the beginning when they got the

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Speaker 3: fourth down call, which was a John Harbaugh special going

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Speaker 3: for at Earlham fourth down and Lamar Jackson runs for

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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, here we go, and they just

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Speaker 2: Thirty seven passes for Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 4: This was the top rushing offense in the league. Gus Edwards,

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Speaker 4: at no point in his eighteen game plays played this season,

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Speaker 4: including the Divisional round, had never had as few of

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Speaker 4: City Chiefs. Their game plan, quite frankly, made zero sense

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Speaker 4: and its coaching malpractice. The offensive coordinator, Todd Munkin got

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Speaker 4: a lot of credit, and I agree with all the

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Speaker 4: credit given because Lamar looked great. The offense looked great.

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Speaker 4: They looked and they got better as the season went along.

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Speaker 4: They looked more composed. They went out to San Francisco

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Speaker 4: against all their starters in prime time and beat the

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Speaker 4: breaks off of the forty nine ers. Forty nine ers

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Speaker 4: may win the Super Bowl this year. They beat the

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Speaker 4: breaks off of him. There's no reason why the Ravens

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be in the Super Bowl outside of the fact that,

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Speaker 4: for whatever reason, Todd Munkin completely changed their offensive strategy

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Speaker 4: in a week's time to feature the pass instead of

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Speaker 4: featuring the run, and then made zero adjustments at halftime,

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Speaker 4: not even noticing that the run game was the more

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Speaker 4: impactful and impressive part of their first half offensive performance.

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Speaker 4: It was absolutely abysmal coaching. Lamar Jackson look unfortunately heavy

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Speaker 4: as the head that wears the crown. Quarterbacks get too

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Speaker 4: much credit, they get too much blame. He will be

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Speaker 4: in part blame for this, and I think some of

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Speaker 4: that is fair criticism, but this is going to be

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Speaker 4: what follows him. Lamar Jackson is a great regular season quarterback,

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Speaker 4: but in the playoffs things happen, whether it be by

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Speaker 4: his performance or his team performances, seem to fall a

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Speaker 3: Now, Chris obviously are a big Lions fan, and again

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Speaker 3: I'm going to end this conversation quickly on the Lions loss.

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Speaker 2: And this is how I break it down. On that

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Speaker 2: fourth down.

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Speaker 3: Call up twenty four to ten, fourth and two, and

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Speaker 3: Chris was all over me about percentages on badge lely

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Speaker 3: kicking field goals from that distance.

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Speaker 2: But here's the.

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Speaker 3: Difference between a missfield goal and turning the ball over

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Speaker 3: on fourth down. If you miss the field goal the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers, who still even though they gotta have

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Speaker 3: a field goal and they're opening drive of the second half,

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Speaker 3: there still was no buzz with the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. None.

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Speaker 3: A miss field goal is not going to create any

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Speaker 3: new buzz for the forty nine ers because they had

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Speaker 3: missed one earlier. But if they stop you on fourth

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Speaker 2: Home, guess what? Wait, why not? You get it over

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Speaker 2: the time you get the crowd into the game. But

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Speaker 2: there's a big difference between a missfield goal and stopping

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Speaker 7: Crowd wasn't in the game even after the stop on

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Speaker 7: fourth down. What got the crowd into the game was

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Speaker 7: the Jamiir Gibbs fumble on the next Lions offensive.

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Speaker 4: Pa I disagree, Chris, because I've been in these games.

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Speaker 4: I've been in those moments when when your defense gets

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Speaker 4: you the ball back, as opposed to a missfield goal,

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Speaker 4: it is a different feeling for the players on the

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, And by the way, there's no guarantee.

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Speaker 4: I agree with what Chris, I'm sure with defend and

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Speaker 4: saying that there's no guarantee that a field goal goes

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Speaker 4: through either so going for it on fourth down or

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Speaker 4: kicking the field goal there are pluses and minuses. But

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Speaker 4: I also I think this way, you don't have a

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Speaker 4: guarantee of three points.

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Speaker 2: Badgely still has to make it.

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Speaker 4: And then on the other side of it, if you

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Speaker 4: go for it on fourth down, like a lot of

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Speaker 4: people are still saying, well, Dan Campbell made the right

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Speaker 4: decision because I mean, it was an open pass. Reynolds

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Speaker 4: should have caught the ball, et cetera, et cetera. But

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Speaker 4: the problem is, like, there's no guarantee you're gonna score

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Speaker 4: after that. What happens if you convert the fourth down

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Speaker 4: and then after that you' and gain another yard, you're

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Speaker 4: closer for national field goal or Jared Goff gets sacked.

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Speaker 4: Like you're you're acting like you know or can predict

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Speaker 4: what's going to happen next. Nobody can look there. There's

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Speaker 4: a lot of bad that can happen when you extend

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Speaker 4: drives too, So it's not this predisposition that they're going

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Speaker 4: to score on that drive, whether it be three points

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Speaker 4: or six, because you successfully converted a fourth down. There's

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Speaker 4: also the same argument that could be made for kicking

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Speaker 4: the field goal.

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Speaker 7: It's not an automatic you're you're writing that we don't

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Speaker 7: know what would happen next. But I guess what I've

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Speaker 7: objected to about this particular conversation is that it's the

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Speaker 9: I am outstanding, my friends, And the fact that we're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously with sho Heyo Tani Almamoto. I mean this is,

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Speaker 9: you did that, that would be an extraordinary amount of

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Speaker 9: winning by recent baseball standards. May I remind everybody the

441
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Speaker 9: Yankees have won one championship since two thousands, one one

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Speaker 9: in more than two decades. One We have not had

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Speaker 9: in Major League Baseball a back to back champion since

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Speaker 9: the Yankees in two thousand, that's a quarter century ago, effectively,

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Speaker 9: was the.

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Speaker 10: Last time we had a back to back champion.

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Speaker 9: In this sport. It is hard to win. The Dodgers

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Speaker 9: have in a lot of ways lived that since twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 9: when they got back they were in the nlcsa year

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Speaker 9: against the Cardinals, and since then they've won one World Series.

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Speaker 9: It is a hard thing to do, as where from

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Speaker 9: where I sit, And again, I'm not wearing a Dodger

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Speaker 9: hat right now to give you this advice, but if

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Speaker 9: I were.

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Speaker 10: A Dodger fan, to describe anything.

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Speaker 9: That would be beyond your wildest dreams. Objectively speaking, if

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Speaker 9: you win three titles in the next ten years, you've

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Speaker 9: had an historically successful decade. From where I sit now,

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Speaker 9: some Dodger fans may say, oh, it's got to be

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Speaker 9: five or six, okay, but I'm telling you realistically, it's

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Speaker 9: probably more like three out of ten would be extraordinarily successful.

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Speaker 9: And if we're going to be honest here, wouldn't it

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Speaker 9: stand to reason that your best chance to win is

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Speaker 9: in one of the years in which Otani can pitch

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Speaker 9: and hit, which, by the way, is not this year.

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Speaker 9: So It's an interesting exercise. I certainly the Dodgers should

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Speaker 9: say to this World Series are bus, because they're that talented.

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Speaker 9: But you know what, the Braves are saying the same thing.

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Speaker 9: The Yankees should say the same thing. Any number of

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Speaker 9: teams in the American League, including though defending World Series

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Speaker 9: champion Rangers, should say the same thing.

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Speaker 10: So should the Astros.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of different teams for whom it's World

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Speaker 9: Seriers a bus. So yes, World Series a bus, and

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Speaker 9: the Dodgers it should be. But to which I say,

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Speaker 9: join the party. This is what it ought to be

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Speaker 9: and the biggest thing.

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Speaker 10: And remember this about Otani this year, he is the DH.

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Speaker 10: He is the DH.

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Speaker 9: I would submit that in this point hasn't made before

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Speaker 9: by some of my colleagues on MLB network television. The

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Speaker 9: Dodgers fell short of the World Series in twenty three

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Speaker 9: not because of the lineup that now has Otani. It's

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Speaker 9: because of the rotation which now does not have Otani.

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Speaker 9: Was the reason why they didn't win the World Series.

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Speaker 9: So as much as we love talking about Otani, and

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Speaker 9: we should, the success of this team is going to

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Speaker 9: be determined by Tyler Glass now Bobby Miller James Paxton,

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Speaker 9: Emmitt Shan in addition, of course to Yamamoto. So those

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Speaker 9: four names, Glass Now, Miller, Packs and Shan, we should

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Speaker 9: be on the field talking about them as much as

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Speaker 9: we're talking about Otani.

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Speaker 4: MLB insider JP Morosi joining us on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 4: this morning on the West Coast. Jp talking about the

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Speaker 4: Dodgers and the financial contributions made to acquire so much

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Speaker 4: talent this offseason.

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Speaker 2: It's not the.

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Speaker 4: What in terms of the dollar amount, it's the how

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Speaker 4: that really has people scratching their heads with deferred payments.

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Speaker 4: Do you think MLB steps in and puts a stop

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Speaker 4: to this? How they were able to structure the contracts

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Speaker 4: to keep their payroll down. It creates a little bit

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Speaker 4: of unfair competitive playing situation here for some of the

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Speaker 4: other teams who haven't gotten so creative financially in the past.

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Speaker 9: It's a fair point, Rich. I do think that we

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Speaker 9: will see some changes made to the CBA next time around.

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Speaker 9: We obviously have a few years yet to go before

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Speaker 9: that happens, and so the short answer is, yes, I

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Speaker 9: believe that we will see changes. But the other piece

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Speaker 9: of this that we have to remember, Let's not forget

511
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Speaker 9: why this contract was possible. What made it possible is

512
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Speaker 9: you had a player who was willing to effectively waive

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Speaker 9: tens of million dollars of salary and delay it to

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Speaker 9: the back end of the contract. And there are very

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Speaker 9: few baseball players who would have interest in doing that.

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Speaker 9: And the reason why it made sense for Otani in

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Speaker 9: this particular case is because his off the field earnings

518
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Speaker 9: are so high that he can afford to do that.

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Speaker 9: There are very few players who who make double digit

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Speaker 9: tens of millions of dollars off the field in marketing

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Speaker 9: that would even have the financial flexibility to where they

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Speaker 9: could say, yeah, I can afford to do this, Oh

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Speaker 9: Tani can I'm not even sure if if you took

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Speaker 9: a poll of let's say that Ronald Leakuya Junior signed

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Speaker 9: that same contract, is he making that much money in

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Speaker 9: endorsements that he could afford to forestall all that money

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Speaker 9: to ten years down the road? I would submit the

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Speaker 9: answer to that question is probably no.

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Speaker 10: And so if Akunya can't do it, who can?

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Speaker 9: And so I think, while I do expect it to

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Speaker 9: be addressed, this whole situation was so much a one

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Speaker 9: of one unique unicorn negotiation for a Unicorn player that

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Speaker 9: I don't think we're going to be seeing a player

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Speaker 9: a year from now.

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Speaker 10: Do the same thing.

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Speaker 9: It's just because baseball players, as a general rule, are

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Speaker 9: not Lionel See, they're not Ronaldo, they're not bap or

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Speaker 9: neymar To where they're making all his money off the field,

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Speaker 9: and they can afford to delay their payments to that extent.

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Speaker 3: All right, final thing, I've been saving this one, and

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Speaker 3: it has to do with the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Sure, all right, So I'm going to take six names

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Speaker 2: that were on the ballot this year. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: break him down to two groups of three, and you

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Speaker 2: tell me which trio had the bigger impact in Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball history. One trio is Adrian Beltray, Todd Helton,

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Speaker 2: and Joe Mauer. The other trio is Alex Rodriguez, Manny Ramirez,

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Speaker 2: and Gary Sheffield. Which trio had a greater impact on

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think the latter one for sure, And obviously

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Speaker 9: they were not the three that got in. It is

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Speaker 9: a very inexact science. I voted for the three who

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Speaker 9: got in, Beltray, Helton, Mauer. I also voted for Sheffield.

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Speaker 9: I did not vote for a rod or Manny, and

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Speaker 9: the reason is quite simple because a Rod and Manny

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Speaker 9: were both suspended for for ped violations by Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 9: And when I look at my ballot, if you were

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Speaker 9: suspended for a PED violation, I do not vote for you.

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Speaker 9: I typically, in most cases, with some exceptions, will vote

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Speaker 9: for the best players that are in the other category,

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Speaker 9: which is all the best players who were not suspended.

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Speaker 9: That's where I draw the line. I understand that there

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Speaker 9: were some allegations against Sheffield that were made to me.

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Speaker 9: They were not convincing enough that he knowingly was using

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Speaker 9: peds for me to withhold my support for him. So

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Speaker 9: I vote for Sheffield. I had voted for him every

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Speaker 9: year that I could, and I believe that he is

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Speaker 9: a deserving Hall of Famer. To me, I don't think

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Speaker 9: it's fair for him at all that he's blocked in

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Speaker 9: the Hall of Fame. I hope that in some way

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Speaker 9: the Veterans Committee considers him and considers his case thoroughly

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Speaker 9: and really looks at all the evidence. I think when

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Speaker 9: you look at all the evidence in context, you would

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Speaker 9: find that Gary Sheffield, the ex Padre, the ex Dodger,

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Speaker 9: belongs in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's there's an argument. We could go all day,

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Speaker 3: all week on it, but we'll save it for another day.

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Speaker 2: JP. It is great to have you back in the full.

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Speaker 3: Can we count on you down the road as we

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Speaker 3: get ready for spring training in the Major League Baseball season.

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Speaker 9: Amen, put me in every single Sunday. Even if you

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Speaker 9: want to talk baseball and Super Sunday, you let me know.

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Speaker 9: But anytime, my friends, this is an open honor production meeting.

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Speaker 9: You call me any Sunday. I love talking to you guys.

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Speaker 3: The great John Palm, Morosi, everybody. JP, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy your Sunday. All right, there's JP there. All right,

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Speaker 3: it took a little while, but let's find out what

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Speaker 3: is trending right now.

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Speaker 2: Months Ye back, I am back. And you never.

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Speaker 3: Fully explain why you were absent the last couple of Sundays.

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Speaker 11: Yeah birthday, birthday, birthday.

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Speaker 2: Well that's right, you had your birthday weekend. Yeah great,

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Speaker 2: but two birthday weekends.

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Speaker 5: I was sick.

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Speaker 11: Oh, one of them was I was supposed to be here,

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Speaker 11: like Lee, excuse the first Sunday I missed. I literally

597
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Speaker 11: was like, ah, do I tell Dan that I have

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Speaker 11: a fever and that I am like hallucinating or do

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Speaker 11: I just go into work?

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Speaker 2: I just with us.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I literally I and I wanted to come into work,

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Speaker 11: you know what I'm saying. But I textan I was like,

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Speaker 11: I'm not well and he was able to find someone.

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Speaker 5: So I didn't want others to get sick. So that

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Speaker 5: was not planned. But the last one, I.

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Speaker 11: Was celebrating my birthday with family because you know, most

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Speaker 11: people have a normal job.

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Speaker 5: We're not normal, so we don't have normal jobs my family,

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Speaker 5: so my friends have normal jobs.

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Speaker 2: We don't have final jobs.

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Speaker 11: We do not.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's amazing what you have accomplished in

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Speaker 3: your twenty five years on this planet.

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Speaker 7: Right exactly exactly it is.

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Speaker 5: It's quite incredible. Not gonna lie, you know.

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Speaker 12: I would listening to JP time Dodgers thank you as

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Speaker 12: Dodger fan this year because of the amount of money

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Speaker 12: and the amount of attention that the Dodgers have gotten

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Speaker 12: with everything they've done to me.

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Speaker 5: You have to make it to the World Series. There

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Speaker 5: is no okay.

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Speaker 2: But the question is if you don't, do you fire

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Speaker 2: Dave Roberts. I mean, look at I I love Dave Roberts.

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Speaker 2: He has the highest winning percent yeh, of any manager

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Speaker 2: in the history of Major League Baseball, but after losing

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Speaker 2: in the first round to the Podres and the Diamondback, No,

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Speaker 2: it's not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what you do, but you have

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Speaker 5: to make it to the World Series. I don't even

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying you even have to win it, but if.

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Speaker 2: You have to make it to the he used to

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Speaker 2: call Bruce Bochie because Bochi is the greatest postseason manager

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Speaker 2: of all time. Yeah, he knows how to navigate the postseason.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's it's true. It's true. All right, fella. Is

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Speaker 5: not a lot going on today. We're in that weird

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Speaker 5: limbo week waiting for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 11: But we do know that no golf will be played

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Speaker 11: today at Pebble Beach Pro Am because of weather. So

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Speaker 11: Round four is going to continue Monday. Tea time is

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Speaker 11: set for eleven am Eastern Time. Wyndham Clark is currently

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Speaker 11: in the lead. A little NFL news, Luke Getzi is

642
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Speaker 11: probably going to be the Raiders new offensive coordinator, which

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Speaker 11: is weird because hours literally yesterday, Cliff Kingsbury, the former

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Speaker 11: Arizona Cardinals coach, removed himself from consideration. Although Kingsbury is

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Speaker 11: still linked to maybe be the Commander's offensive coordinator. Bill

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Speaker 11: Belichick took out a page in Today's Boston Globe to

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Speaker 11: thank Patriot fans everywhere.

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Speaker 5: You know, was there for twenty four years.

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Speaker 11: But my favorite line was you may have enjoyed my

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Speaker 11: fashion sense and press conferences or you just tolerated them.

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Speaker 5: I mean, how accurate is that?

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Speaker 7: It?

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Speaker 2: Pretty good self awareness, a very.

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Speaker 5: Good self awareness. Perfect line.

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Speaker 11: Doc Rivers got his first win as a Bucks head

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Speaker 11: coach last night, they beat the Mavericks. He's now also

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Speaker 11: going to be coaching the Eastern Conference All Stars against

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Speaker 11: the West.

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Speaker 5: On firy eighteenth, River.

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Speaker 11: Says that he does intend to give his All Star

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Speaker 11: ring and bonus to Adrian Griffin, who was fired and

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Speaker 11: he took over, so he's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna give him that. I also found this story.

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Speaker 11: So yesterday Steph Curry dropped sixty points in an ot

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Speaker 11: loss to the Hawks, only tenth player in NBA history

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Speaker 11: to reach at least sixty points twice.

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Speaker 5: Lindsey Lohan was in attendance and I didn't know all this.

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Speaker 5: She was there with her.

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Speaker 11: At the end, Curry gave gave them his jersey signed

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Speaker 11: for his son because or their son excuse me, because

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Speaker 11: Steph Curry and his wife Aisha are his godparents to

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Speaker 11: Lindsay Lohan's son. Why Apparently Lindsay and Aisha are starting

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Speaker 11: in a movie called Irish Wish Iris Irish Wish, Irish

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Speaker 11: Wish say that ten times. It's going to be released

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Speaker 11: on Netflix in March. So they're the godparents to Lindsay

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Speaker 11: Lohan's son.

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Speaker 5: I don't know all this.

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Speaker 4: Well, that makes sense. You know, people become close when

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Speaker 4: they work together. Let me look at the three of us.

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Speaker 5: The good president that anyone could have.

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Speaker 3: By the way, when he signed away the jersey, did

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Speaker 3: he did he have the score of the game, which

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Speaker 3: they lost, By the way, that's he's the third guy

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Speaker 3: I think in the last two weeks to score sixty

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Speaker 3: points lost the game.

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Speaker 11: Yes, he did not put the final score. He just

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Speaker 11: you know, signed it to his godson. We do have

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Speaker 11: one college basketball game Top twenty five action right now.

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Speaker 11: Number two Purdue has taken the lead over number six Wisconsin.

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Speaker 11: It is thirty to two, twenty six, three minutes to

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Speaker 11: go in the first half.

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Speaker 2: It is great to have you back, absolutely all right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we're going to get

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Speaker 2: into the final list of coaching hires in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: There were eight vacancies, all have been filled. What were

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Speaker 3: the surprises, what were the goofs, what's the best hire?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: Break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Hartman,

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Speaker 3: Rich Ornberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the

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Speaker 3: tyraq dot Com studios. The hiatus week between the conference

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Speaker 3: championship games and the Super Bowl a little awkward.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 3: Four years ago we were sitting here, you know, searching

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Speaker 3: for things to talk about, when news broke about a

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Speaker 3: helicopter crash down the road and the passing of Kobe

706
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Speaker 3: Bryant and his daughter and those other people in.

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Speaker 2: That horrific crash. That suddenly took over.

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Speaker 3: But you know, one thing we had this week in

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Speaker 3: the NFL was the conclusion of the head coaching hiring.

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Speaker 2: There were eight vacancies. There are none now.

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Speaker 3: Dan Quinn getting that final gig with the Washington commanders.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting because everyone thought Quinn was going to

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Speaker 3: go to Seattle because of his background with the Seahawks,

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Speaker 3: and then they seem to cool on him. But that's

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Speaker 3: when it became clear that the commanders may have interested

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Speaker 3: in him because Ben Johnson, the Lions offensive coordinator, apparently

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Speaker 3: was not interested in the job.

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Speaker 2: He will remain in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: So when you look at these eight coaching hires, by

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Speaker 3: the way, four the eight minority hires, So that's a

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Speaker 3: healthy number step in the right direction. We'll actually have

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Speaker 3: more minority coaches going into the season than any season

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Speaker 3: in NFL history. I think it's nine is my guest

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Speaker 3: somewhere around that. But what were your impressions about the

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Speaker 3: hirings and of course those that didn't get hired, the

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Speaker 3: biggest names obviously Mike Vrabel, Pete Carroll, and of course

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the oddity and the headline of the

729
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Speaker 4: coaching carousel hiring cycle, however you want to describe it,

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Speaker 4: was Jim Harbaugh signing with the Los Angeles Chargers. That

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Speaker 4: was the standout moment of the entire hiring cycle. They

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Speaker 4: spent inarguably the most money of any other team hiring

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Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh. He is the splashiest hire of this round

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Speaker 4: of hiring for head coaches, So that was surprising. I

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Speaker 4: would say no other hiring really surprised me. But the

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Speaker 4: fact that Belichick is left without a dance partner in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four is strange.

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Speaker 2: It is strange. Well, what's going to change in the

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Speaker 2: future with Belichick?

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Speaker 3: I mean the idea that Belichick's going to change his way,

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Speaker 3: because if they were, if you go to a guy

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Speaker 3: like Bill Belichick with his resume, a guy on the

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Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore coaches in the NFL, and he say, all right,

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Speaker 3: we'd like you to try this or maybe be receptive

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Speaker 3: to this idea, and his respect spons is. I think

746
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Speaker 3: my record speaks for itself. I mean, you're gonna tell

747
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Speaker 3: me how to make a championship team. I want to

748
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 3: nine super Bowls. I want to six. I don't see

749
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Speaker 3: that on your resume. So you want to tell me

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Speaker 3: how to put together a championship organization that doesn't seem

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Speaker 3: to fly. I am telling you how to put together

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Speaker 3: a championship organization.

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Speaker 4: I well, here's the thing. Certain people want somebody who's

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Speaker 4: confident and capable to come in and take over parts

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Speaker 4: of their business. There are consulting companies that literally walk

756
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Speaker 4: in and try to convince owners of companies you need

757
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Speaker 4: to do less and allow your employees to do more.

758
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Speaker 4: Like there is a very important structure that is in

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Speaker 4: place at certain corporations or businesses and teams NBA teams

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Speaker 4: where you just let the sports guys do the sports

761
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Speaker 4: stuff and you write the checks. And that's very much

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Speaker 4: the Robert Craft and Bill Belichick story through a twenty

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Speaker 4: four year run together. They very much had a business

764
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Speaker 4: relationship in the sense that he was the owner of

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Speaker 4: the team, but Bill made all the decisions.

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Speaker 2: That was how it worked.

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Speaker 4: And then when it got dicey toward the end, the

768
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Speaker 4: decision to trade Garoppolo instead of Brady, that very much

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Speaker 4: so was Robert Craft stepping in. The decision to let

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Speaker 4: Brady essentially go instead of signing him to a thank

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Speaker 4: you contract at the end of his career and potentially

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Speaker 4: going on another Super Bowl run with him, That was

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Speaker 4: very much a Bill Belichick decision. And it really does

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Speaker 4: feel like when you start reading some of the source

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Speaker 4: reports and some of the things that went on after

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Speaker 4: that point, there was a little bit of resentment from

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Speaker 4: Robert Craft looking at what Brady was able to accomplish

778
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Speaker 4: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and looking at Bill and

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Speaker 4: saying that could have been us, That could have been

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Speaker 4: us hoisting another Lombardy with a guy who I look

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Speaker 4: at as almost a family member with Tom Brady. So yeah, look,

782
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Speaker 4: there's a way to do business that certain people are

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Speaker 4: interested in, and you hand over a lot of the

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Speaker 4: responsibility to others. And then there's a lot of people

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Speaker 4: who feared delegating that level of power. And I think

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Speaker 4: unfortunately for Belichick, if he was looking to work in

787
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, the teams who were potentially there who

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Speaker 4: could have hired him, didn't want to relinquish that much power.

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Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of power, the NFL took power

790
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Speaker 3: the Chargers organization with a Hi and a Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 3: I told you that from day one that the league

792
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Speaker 3: was going to mandate it, and I really knew it

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Speaker 3: came to that. I mean, there were two things. First

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Speaker 3: of all, what team hires a coach before they hire

795
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Speaker 3: a general manager. That doesn't happen very often. Rarer and Harby,

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Speaker 3: as we had heard rumors, was suddenly, you know, getting

797
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Speaker 3: a little antsy about the Charger job. And then all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, instead of in a plane, he announced

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Speaker 3: as the new Charger coach. But I was told everything

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Speaker 3: I need when I saw the press conference and the

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Speaker 3: look on Dean Spannus's face as he's standing next to

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: You would think he'd have a smile from the ear

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Speaker 2: to ear.

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Speaker 3: He looks sick to his stomach because for the first time,

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Speaker 3: Dean Spannis has been told you are spending money. You

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Speaker 3: didn't spend him money on a stadium. You haven't spend

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Speaker 3: any money on your move out of San Diego, you

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Speaker 3: haven't spent a time. You will spend money to get

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh. We need him to make your organization relevant

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Speaker 3: in a city like Los Angeles. All right, speaking of relevance,

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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers versus the Chiefs, it's a great matchup,

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Speaker 3: the best possible.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 3: will do an extra hour here as we get ready

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Speaker 3: for the big showdown between the forty nine Ers and

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs. And look, we went over this to start

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Speaker 3: the last hour about how when you really look at it,

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Speaker 3: a golden opportunity was spoiled for both the Lions and

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Speaker 3: the Ravens. They should be here, They were in a

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Speaker 3: position to be here, and they made decisions that backfired.

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Speaker 3: And so we get the teams that honestly are the

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Speaker 3: most attractive teams, the forty nine Ers and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: And I know there's a lot of people that are

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Speaker 3: getting tired of the Chiefs, just like they were getting

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Speaker 3: tired of the Patriots when they went to three Super

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Speaker 3: Bowls in a four year or four Super Bowls in

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Speaker 3: a five year span. I always believe rich every sport,

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Speaker 3: whether it's a team sport or an individual sport. Golf

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Speaker 3: was better when Tiger Woods was winning every tournament, YEP,

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Speaker 3: Tennis when a Roger Federer or a Pete Sampras or

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Speaker 3: you know, a Serena Williams. When you have a dominant player,

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Speaker 3: I think the sport's better. Same thing with a team sport.

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Speaker 3: You go back in history with the Yankees, or you

842
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Speaker 3: go with you know, the Celtics or the Lakers, or

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Speaker 3: you know, even with the Patriots. Because the thing about

844
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Speaker 3: the Patriots run with Belichick and they dominated two decades.

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Speaker 3: Is the fact that you're not on the fence. You're

846
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Speaker 3: either all in or you're all out. And that's where

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs find themselves right now. The Chiefs now are.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely beloved by those that have been faithful to this organization,

849
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Speaker 2: and of course those plenty of bandwagoners, you know, the

850
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Speaker 2: Taylor Swifts of the world, which is fine. I have

851
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Speaker 2: no problem with that. But also when you have that

852
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Speaker 2: level of success, you get haters and you're rooting against them.

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Speaker 2: I can't stand another.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to see one more, you know, seeing

855
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Speaker 3: with Andy Reid and Mahomes and Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: And everything else, Taylor Swift so exactly. So I think

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Speaker 2: that you have that with the Chiefs, yep. And then

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Speaker 2: you have this forty niner team and mister irrelevant I

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Speaker 2: and you know, and we'll we'll have our we we'll

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Speaker 2: do our picks later on in the show.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to completely tip it off. But when

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Speaker 3: you think about the Brock Party situation, because the forty

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Speaker 3: nine Ers, Kyle Sanahan is not a warm and fuzzy guy.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, He's very much a coach. He's very much

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Speaker 4: his father's son exactly.

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Speaker 2: He very much is. But brock Purty, oh yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: warm and fuzzy.

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Speaker 3: And as we look at this matchup, you say, all right, well,

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Speaker 3: Mahomes lost to Tom Brady in a Super Bowl again,

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Speaker 3: no shame there, But is Mahomes going to lose to

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Speaker 3: brock Purty.

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Speaker 4: Well, I want to respond to your your first commentary first,

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Speaker 4: this idea that greatness in sports and dynasties in sports

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Speaker 4: helped drive interest to sport, because I think you're absolutely

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Speaker 4: right for all the reasons you just mentioned, but I

876
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: think you missed one, which is when you're watching the

877
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: NFL or the NHL or NBA or MLB. What happens

878
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 4: when you're watching it and nobody is soaring above the

879
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: rest is we become a little aneth the size to

880
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: the fact that these are the most talented human beings

881
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 4: in the world doing what they're doing. Like you become

882
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 4: a little numb to it. You become a little you're

883
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: lacking the feeling or being deprived of the awareness of

884
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 4: exactly how great these athletes are. And then someone like

885
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: a Tiger Woods comes along, or a Steph Curry or

886
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: a Lebron James or a Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes

887
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: or a Manny Machado or a shohe O Tani. You know,

888
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 4: a great comes along where you're like, whoa, that guy's

889
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: doing it even better, like and not even it's a

890
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 4: lot better than these other greats, and it just draws

891
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: you in even closer.

892
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 2: And then you start realizing, oh, no, no, no, it's not.

893
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: A only him, but he's got some role players around him,

894
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: Like in the case of Steph Curry, you start saying,

895
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 4: you know, and and Draymond Green, I mean, he's won

896
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 4: hell of a defender. And you start paying attention closer

897
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: to the Warriors and their culture with Steve Kerr and

898
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: that's amazing. Patrick Mahomes same things. He said, well, jeez,

899
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: and that Tyreek Hill back when he was playing with

900
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, he's pretty damn good. And maybe he's a

901
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame wide receiver in waiting. And then you

902
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: look at Travis Kelsey and you're like, wait a second,

903
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: how close is he to taking the reception record in

904
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 4: the postseason? Holy smokes, he may break that record this season?

905
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: And he did, you know that?

906
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: I think is what also helps us obsess over these sports.

907
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: More is the fact that when you do have people

908
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 4: who jump ahead of the pack, whether it be individual

909
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 4: performances or team wide performances, it makes you respect even

910
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 4: more how difficult it is because only a select few

911
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 4: have been able to be great consistently throughout their career

912
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 4: with very few respites, with very few fall up, like

913
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 4: Tom Brady did it for two decades. I don't know

914
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 4: if that's ever going to be repeated. But here we

915
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 4: are looking out of Kansas City Chiefs team, which if

916
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 4: they keep this nucleus of and Andy Reid and Patrick

917
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 4: Mahomes together for as long as the Patriots were able

918
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: to and I don't know if they'll be able to,

919
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: they could be just as special potentially.

920
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: All Right.

921
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: So we had said last week that if Mahomes can

922
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: beat the Ravens on the road after beating the Bills

923
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: on the road, now he's checked another box on this

924
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame resume. And I said, even going into

925
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: the Ravens game, there are only two quarterbacks. And I'm

926
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Speaker 3: not going to go way back in time, but I'm

927
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 3: talking about in the Super Bowl era. There's only two

928
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that I rate ahead of Patrick Mahomes. That's Tom

929
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: Brady and Joe Montana, and I look at Montana's super

930
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: Bowl record four No, he's like the Michael Jordan, like

931
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 3: the perfect record in the Super Bowl. Plus he never

932
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: even threw a single interception in those four games. That's

933
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 3: perfection four for four and Brady speaks for itself. But

934
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: here's something that both Montana and Brady had during their careers.

935
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: Between Montana's first two Super Bowl wins and his last

936
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 3: two Super Bowl wins, there were three straight years where

937
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: he was one and out and they were ugly. Two

938
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: of those games they didn't even score a touchdown. And

939
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: Tom Brady between his first three and next three in

940
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: New England, there was a ten year hiatus where he

941
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Speaker 3: didn't win a Super Bowl, a couple of Super.

942
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: Bowl losses to Eli Manning.

943
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 3: If Patrick Mahomes can avoid that hiccup in his career, right,

944
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: I mean, if the Chiefs win next Sunday and then

945
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Speaker 3: win next year to be the first team ever to

946
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 3: win three Super Bowls in a row.

947
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden, I'm like put the brakes.

948
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: On, right, I mean, right now, when you're doing something

949
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: that's never done out. I mean, he's already become the

950
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 3: first quarterback ever to play in six consecutive confer and

951
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: Championship games. Yep, so's that's already something. No, but not Brady,

952
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 3: none have ever done this.

953
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 4: Let me give you an example of a guy who

954
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 4: never got to enjoy some of the great team moments

955
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 4: that say Tom Brady had gotten to enjoy, Patrick Mahomes

956
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 4: got to enjoy. But again, another guy who was so

957
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 4: individually dominant when you say his name, and he's now

958
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 4: longer retired I believe five maybe longer, maybe five six years.

959
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 4: But Ichiro playing Major League baseball never won a World Series,

960
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 4: I mean, won an MVP, won several Silver Sluggers. I

961
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 4: mean he was one of the greatest hitters in league history. Like,

962
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 4: that's an example of a guy who was kind of,

963
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: you know, in in exile in Major League Baseball terms,

964
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: in Seattle his entire career. And he was a little

965
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: bit of an after or from a team standpoint, a

966
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 4: little bit of an afterthought. But Ichiro got his third

967
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: Major League Baseball hit on his tenth that bat, and

968
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 4: his average never drop below three three hundred the rest

969
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 4: of his cup.

970
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: Oh, you have to argue he'll be in the Hall

971
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: of next year. Is his Hall of Fame here for

972
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 2: Cale guy. Yeah yeah, so there you go is candidacy

973
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 2: begins next year, so he probably is right.

974
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 3: But in baseball you have to admit when we look

975
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: at Hall of famers down the road and football, you're like,

976
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: how many Super Bowls?

977
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 10: Yeah?

978
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 3: No, they In baseball you don't say, well, how many

979
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 3: World Series? I mean, sure there was a Derek Jeter.

980
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: There's exceptions to the rule, but overall, you don't look

981
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 3: at baseball Hall of Fames like people say Adrian Beltre.

982
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: He never never won a World Series, never played in

983
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: a World Series. He'd played in a World Series, but

984
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: never won a World Series.

985
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 4: When you're able to zoom in though in on a

986
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 4: player over the course of his career and you think,

987
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 4: you think to yourself and you say, like, and he

988
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 4: didn't play his entire career in Seattle. I was just

989
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 4: thinking about it because I remember him in a Yankee uniform. No,

990
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 4: I mean that was at the end of his career,

991
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 4: Marlin's uniform. I mean he played for a couple of

992
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 4: teams down the stretch. But when you think about a

993
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: player like that, or any player like you said, across

994
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: baseball or the NFL, guys I mean like Zach Thomas,

995
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 4: Guys like Dan Marino who weren't like when you see

996
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 4: a guy who does something better than the rest of

997
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: the league, I mean Aaron Rodgers. For as great as

998
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 4: he is, four time MVP, he's only won a Super Bowl.

999
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 4: You zoom in on these players though, because they're doing

1000
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: it heads and shoulders above the rest of them. And

1001
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 4: the NFL needs heroes and villains, and sometimes the same

1002
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 4: players are the same teams embody the same thing. They're

1003
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 4: both heroes and villains. For as many Chiefs fans out

1004
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 4: there as there are, and there are many, especially now

1005
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 4: with the association with Taylor Swift, you see a lot

1006
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 4: more Chiefs jerseys than you ever have in the history

1007
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 4: of their franchise. Well, I think there's a bunch of

1008
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: detractors as well. In fact, I know there's a lot

1009
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 4: of detractors. There's a lot of people retired.

1010
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 2: See you haven't read social media. The whole thing's rigged well.

1011
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: And that's the other thing is people want to believe.

1012
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: Working with Pfizer, right, and then Travis, and then you

1013
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: have Taylor Swift, who President Biden reportedly is trying to

1014
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 3: get her to publicly endorse his candidacy.

1015
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: This is all a fix, right.

1016
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: Well, there's people who wanted to believe the entire way

1017
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 4: with New England too, I mean, how many look they're cheaters.

1018
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: The flake Gate, which was all proven and debunked. Spy Gate,

1019
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 4: I mean.

1020
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: How was it debunk Brady was suspended for four games

1021
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: because they were using bad measurables. They were using bad metrics.

1022
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, he suffered a suspension, but I

1023
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: mean it wasn't based on any facts. Softer ball is

1024
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 2: easier to grip, less likely to fumble.

1025
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 4: The way they measured the specific gravity of these football

1026
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: really is one of.

1027
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: The most ridiculous stories in the history of the edit.

1028
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 4: But Spygate, I mean, go through the litwpygate was real.

1029
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: They're not the only spygate team.

1030
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 4: Exactly, but you go through the list of accusations against

1031
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 4: the team that was doing it better than anybody else

1032
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: of the history of their dynasties run.

1033
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 3: Well, look at having in Michigan this year, same thing

1034
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 3: well and again this juggernaut team, and all of a

1035
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: sudden there will find out if some of these allegates.

1036
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 4: Apparently the NCAA is hard at work investigating.

1037
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: All of them.

1038
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: How Pete Carroll left USC right when they were going

1039
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: to drop the hammer on the USC football program.

1040
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 4: Still don't know where that Heisman Trophy for REGI is.

1041
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 4: We still don't know.

1042
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 3: But right by the way, you've w a my appetite.

1043
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 3: So we're talking about all time grades. I'm gonna do something.

1044
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: I did this a little bit yesterday with you from

1045
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it again with you.

1046
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 2: Okay.

1047
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,959
Speaker 3: The Pro Football Hall of Fame class at twenty twenty

1048
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 3: four is going to be announced on Thursday. They got

1049
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: the NFL Honors Show where they get all the year

1050
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: end awards and everything else. And you know me, I'm

1051
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: a little consumed with this Hall of Fame thing, right

1052
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: So I like to make my annual predictions. See how

1053
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: close I come of which five modern players are going

1054
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 3: to be in the class at twenty twenty four. Let's

1055
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: see how accurate I could be. I got to break it.

1056
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to break it down for you. That's coming up.

1057
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: We'll have much more, of course on the game coming

1058
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: up next week. Say is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey,

1059
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: Rich Hornberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We're live from the tirack

1060
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 3: dot com Studios. I remember after the show, our podcast

1061
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: goes up. You missed any of today's show, be sure

1062
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 3: to check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio

1063
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts, and to follow, rate and

1064
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: review the podcasts. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1065
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: you get your podcast. Just see the show posted right

1066
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: after we get off the air. All right, indulge me

1067
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: a little bit here, Rich, because I know you're disdain

1068
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 3: for the Hall of Fame. I mean, I mean, I've

1069
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: known Rich forever and he just hates awards. I mean,

1070
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: it's so awkward now with this NFL Honors Show. He

1071
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: used to be the Associated Press would be designated the

1072
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: official awards of the NFL, and when the regular season

1073
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: would end, because the voting has done to the last

1074
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 3: day of the regular season sort of dispersed throughout the playoffs,

1075
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: they would announce this award that ward. Then they decided,

1076
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: let's do it just one show, the NFL Honor Show.

1077
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: How weird is this you?

1078
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: And You're gonna sit there on Thursday and they're handing

1079
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 3: the MVP Award to Lamar Jackson and a lot of

1080
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 3: people will be confused. So like, did you see his

1081
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: performance in the AFC, how come he's the MVP, right,

1082
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: not fully comprehending that the voting was actually done at

1083
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: the end of the regular season, right, Yeah, And that is.

1084
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: A misconception and also a frustration for a lot of

1085
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 4: fans that the most important part of the season is

1086
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 4: omitted from the voting when you're talking about the most

1087
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 4: Valuable player.

1088
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: But you'll have the Super Bowl MVP. In other words,

1089
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: what's more.

1090
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: Prestigious being the regular season MVP or being a Super

1091
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 3: Bowl MVP?

1092
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 4: I would argue it's being a regular season MVP because

1093
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 4: when when your your career is being discussed, the MVP,

1094
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 4: even though it's an individual award, holds a lot of weight,

1095
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying it stacks up. It's still pales

1096
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 4: in comparison to a Super Bow. Super Bowls are considered

1097
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 4: team victories. An MVP is your individual opportunity to show

1098
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 4: the rest of the league that you were the best

1099
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: player that year in that league. So it carries to

1100
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: me as as much weight, if not close to as

1101
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: much weight, as a Super Bowl victory.

1102
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: All right, So also on Thursday, they will announce the

1103
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame class at twenty twenty four. There's two

1104
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: ways to get into the Hall. They have what they

1105
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 3: call the Old Timers Committee. They had three nominees. They

1106
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 3: also have a coach nominee. They're sort of separate, okay,

1107
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: but then you have the modern class. So they break

1108
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 3: it down through a process to get to fifteen finalists,

1109
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 3: which is where we are right now, and from that

1110
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: fifteen to five will make the Hall of Fame. So

1111
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to break this down because I'm you know,

1112
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: I do a lot of research into this kind of stuff,

1113
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna get your thoughts on this. Okay, Let's

1114
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: start with the two finalists that are first ballot eligible,

1115
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: so this is their first year of eligibility and they

1116
00:55:59,440 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: made it.

1117
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: To the final fifteen lists.

1118
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 3: They are Julius Peppers and they are Antonio Gates.

1119
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 4: Both of them are getting in on the first ballot.

1120
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure interesting which one of those two

1121
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 4: would you leave out?

1122
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: Well? Would you leave out both? Here?

1123
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 3: Here's Peppers to me is an automatic, but I'm going

1124
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: to give you an idea about Gates. Okay, all right,

1125
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: So there's only been one tight end to be put

1126
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame in the first ballot, and

1127
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 3: that's Tony Gonzalez, right, and his career numbers and Pro

1128
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 3: bowls are just light years ahead of every other tight

1129
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 3: end and his dragging. Yeah, Gates as great as he was,

1130
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: and again all time leader career touchdown receptions by a

1131
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 3: tight end more than Gonzalez. He never went to a

1132
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. He's not at Tony Gonzalez resume. And then

1133
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: he got busted for peds at the end of Oh,

1134
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: I forgot about that.

1135
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 4: The pd suspension is going to hamper his ability to

1136
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: get into the Hall of Fame altogether?

1137
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: Will you with us? One Shannon Sharp called or radio

1138
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: station when that I remember it happening. It was unbelievable.

1139
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 3: We're literally sitting there and they got We got Shannon

1140
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: Sharp on the phone like legit, and it was and

1141
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 3: he was denouncing Gates that he should be eliminated from

1142
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 3: there's the only consideration of the Hall of I'm telling.

1143
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: You there's a lot of people who feel that way.

1144
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 4: And we've talked to how many times have we had

1145
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 4: over the years we've been working together, which is creeping

1146
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 4: up on ten years. We've had interview guests who are

1147
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 4: MVP voters who say, if you have a ped user

1148
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 4: up for a Hall of Fame. Bid I'm not voting

1149
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 4: for them ever, so that that could hamper Gates, and

1150
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 4: I never considered it. So Julius Peppers, in your opinion,

1151
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: in first ballot, Gates, he's gonna have to at least

1152
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 4: wait another year, another.

1153
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: Year, maybe one or two. But that's that's it. So

1154
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: Peppers in all right, there's two guys that are unique

1155
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 3: for different reasons that have been on this list for

1156
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: a couple of years that I think are going to

1157
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 3: get him finally. One of them is Devin Hester. Okay,

1158
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: so Hester again is one of those guys. A lot

1159
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 3: of people were upset when he didn't get in first

1160
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: ballot or second ballot.

1161
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: It's hard to figure it out. But let me ask

1162
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: you this.

1163
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: Can you write the history of the NFL without mentioning

1164
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: Devin Hester?

1165
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: No, you really can't.

1166
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: I mean, he's the greatest return guy in the history

1167
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 3: of this game.

1168
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 4: So Hester's rise to prominence in the league was really

1169
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 4: when my interest in football started. So it was middle

1170
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 4: school for me, sure, and I remember watching this guy

1171
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 4: and thinking like, every time he gets the football in

1172
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 4: his hands, something amazing is gonna happen. And it was

1173
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 4: true almost always.

1174
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. They tried a bit wide receiver.

1175
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: It was mediocre, did not work, the defense did not work.

1176
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: But he had will He returned touchdowns in his career,

1177
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 3: and that does include the Super Bowl kickoff return.

1178
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh, the first play of the game, boom. It was unreal.

1179
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 4: And and here's the other thing is everybody gets caught

1180
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 4: up in all of the touchdowns that he scored on

1181
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: these kick returns and returns. When I say something amazing

1182
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 4: was gonna happen. Sometimes he didn't get in the end

1183
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 4: zone and it was still just as brilliant of a

1184
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: return as any of those, you know, kick returns or

1185
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 4: punt returns for touchdowns.

1186
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: He was electric. He deserves to be in the Hall,

1187
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: all right.

1188
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: So I have Pepper's and I have Hester. Here's another

1189
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: guy again. His candidacy is unique because he had a

1190
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: short career, all right, and that's Patrick Willis.

1191
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1192
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 3: So Patrick Willis is one of those guys that had

1193
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: a shortened career. But during that time he made the

1194
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl seemingly every year, All Pro every year. And

1195
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 3: that gets back to the longevity thing, you know, impact

1196
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: in a short time versus a longer career. I think

1197
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: Willis was so dominant as an inside linebacker for the

1198
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: forty nine ers that and again he's been on this

1199
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 3: list for a couple of years.

1200
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: I think Willis will finally get in.

1201
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 4: So Patrick Willis, like you said, short career, but so

1202
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 4: impactful and so dominant at his position. I remember playing

1203
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: against that forty nine er team and going against the

1204
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 4: Smiths off the edge, Alden and what was his name,

1205
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 4: Justin Justin Smith. He was unbelievable too, and then having

1206
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 4: Willis and Bowman stay go, oh my god, what a

1207
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 4: headache hitting those two.

1208
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: I would give an argument to Bowman's candidacy. Well, he

1209
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: had four superdominant years and that was it. That was it.

1210
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 2: But they were unbelievable seasons. So far.

1211
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you this, so I won't name

1212
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 4: the sports writer, but week, some weeks ago, a sports

1213
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 4: writer reached out to me and asked for my five

1214
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,479
Speaker 4: Hall of Famers from the list. And it's a list.

1215
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 4: I mean, the list is unbelievable. Right so far, you

1216
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 4: and I agree on two of them. Okay, so I

1217
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 4: have Peppers and I have Willis.

1218
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so I got Peppers, Willis and Hester All right now,

1219
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 3: there's two more spots.

1220
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 7: Yes, Chris, I don't know if we've if you're about

1221
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 7: to bring him up, so I might be jumping this gun.

1222
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 7: But the one name I always zero in on this,

1223
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 7: and you might. I mean, you're the same age as me.

1224
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: Rich.

1225
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 7: So like last last year we got our first Jaguars

1226
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 7: Hall of Famer in Tony Boselli. Yes, and right now

1227
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 7: Fred Taylor is up this year. And I don't like

1228
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 7: that first iteration of the Jaguars with Biselli, Taylor and

1229
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 7: Mark Brunell is seared into my head. That really helps

1230
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 7: me really love football. And I'm wondering, like Fred Taylor's

1231
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 7: chances because again you talk you talked Steve about how

1232
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 7: do you tell the story of NFL without a certain guy?

1233
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 7: For me that Fred Taylor. You can't tell the story

1234
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 7: of the Jacksonville Jaguars coming to life without Fred Taylor.

1235
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's an argument to a lot of

1236
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 3: these guys, and like you say, sometimes there's a personal stake.

1237
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 3: All right, I'll tell you what on the other side,

1238
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give the other two and these are even

1239
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 3: these are the trickiest ones.

1240
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

1241
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 3: I gave you my reasons why Peppers is in Gates

1242
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 3: is gonna have to wait a year again. The Hester

1243
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: and Patrick Willis, they've been on the list a couple

1244
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: of years.

1245
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: I think that they are both due. But the last

1246
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: two get a little bit trickery.

1247
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 3: But first let's find out what it's trending right now.

1248
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: Moncey busy with all these football games. We were watching

1249
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: the women's flag football. Did you did you know that

1250
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: the ladies flag football is now an Olympic sport as.

1251
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 5: It should be, as it should be. It's awesome.

1252
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean they're great, they're outstanding, but it's now going

1253
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: to be an Olympic sport on the lady's side, flag football.

1254
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 11: I wish flag football would have been an option when

1255
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 11: I was in high school.

1256
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: I thought you were good at flag foot.

1257
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 11: I played flag football with my sorority sisters and we

1258
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,479
Speaker 11: were good.

1259
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Now what position did you play?

1260
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 5: I was one of the receivers, yes, yes I did.

1261
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 2: Didn't have you pegged as an offensive one?

1262
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 5: No I was not. I was not protecting her, no,

1263
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 5: no I was.

1264
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: I was as your arm. You control the ball, you

1265
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: know I can't.

1266
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 5: I wish it looked pretty.

1267
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: You'd be like Doug flutie.

1268
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 5: I really wish my ball when I wish it.

1269
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: Looks smoother like a Kyler Burry out there.

1270
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 5: It looked like Tim Tebow out there.

1271
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1272
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 3: It was just you're really going to throw a good spiral,

1273
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 3: you need large hands. Do large hands give you a

1274
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: better opportunity to really throw that tight spot?

1275
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very it's hard. It looks when it looks pretty,

1276
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 5: it looks great, and it's like I get throw up.

1277
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 5: But it didn't look pretty, very very rarely did it

1278
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 5: look pretty.

1279
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 11: It's looking pretty good right now so far for number

1280
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 11: two per Due in college hoops, a top twenty five matchup.

1281
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 11: It's still close though, so number two per Due up

1282
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 11: on number six Wisconsin fifty five to fifty one. About

1283
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 11: eight minutes ish to go in the game for this one.

1284
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 11: And I will mention some ladies college hoops, because we

1285
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 11: got South Carolina who is twenty and zero for the season.

1286
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 11: They never lose, and right now they're beating Ole Miss

1287
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 11: seventeen to fifteen after the first quarter. Other news around

1288
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 11: the world of sports, Doc Rivers will now be coaching

1289
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 11: the Eastern Conference All Stars against the West. This will

1290
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 11: take place during All Star weekend February eighteenth in Indianapolis.

1291
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 11: He also got his first win as the Bucks head

1292
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 11: coach on Saturday night when.

1293
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 5: They beat the Mavericks.

1294
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 11: He does say that he intends to give his All

1295
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 11: Star ring and his bonus to Adrian Griffin, who was

1296
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 11: the coach that the Books fired and then hired Dark

1297
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 11: Rivers literally twenty four hours later. Other NBA kind of news,

1298
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 11: Jalen Brunson, who starred Knicks even though the Nicks just

1299
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 11: lost to the Lakers, tweeted this do what you.

1300
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 5: Want with it quote. Got something cooking up for y'all

1301
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 5: pretty soon.

1302
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 11: And in the comments, people are like, another podcast. He's

1303
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 11: gonna be able to do a podcast because everyone's been

1304
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 11: doing podcasts. So Jalen Brunson, we'll see what he means

1305
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 11: by that. Maybe a shoe, maybe a collaboration. Maybe there's

1306
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 11: a trade happening. Who knows better Lebron James traded the

1307
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 11: next Oh.

1308
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 5: No, okay, that can't happen. That can't happen.

1309
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: What's being reported?

1310
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: I mean I even led the news last night with

1311
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 3: the idea that there's all the speculation that Bron wants

1312
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: out of LA.

1313
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: Could you see the tweet did you or the post?

1314
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah.

1315
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,959
Speaker 11: He's been doing some some weird stuff on social media,

1316
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 11: the one about New York where he responded with the

1317
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 11: little like was it the apple and the Statue of Liberty?

1318
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 11: He like responded to something about New York and then

1319
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 11: he he also said, but he also defended Trey Young.

1320
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 11: He's something about Joelle and beats.

1321
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 5: Everybody's like, oh, he's gonna go to the Hawks. Oh,

1322
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 5: he's going to trade for Trey Young. Like who knows.

1323
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 5: But that dude needs to chill. He cannot go to

1324
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 5: the mix. There's no way.

1325
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: Well I can. What are you giving up for a

1326
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: thirty nine year old Lebron James? I mean, if you

1327
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: were the Lakers making a deal, you want picks.

1328
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, a lot of picks, a lot of them.

1329
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: And just using the Knicks as an example, why would

1330
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: I gut my draft so the next three or four

1331
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 3: years for a thirty nine year old Lebron, even though

1332
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 3: it's seemingly there's never a drop off in his game,

1333
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: there is a dropof He doesn't blame any details.

1334
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, because he has to do a lot of the

1335
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 5: offense exactly. Yeah, No, I'm with you. I'm with you, guys.

1336
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 5: No golf today at the Pebble Beach Pro Am.

1337
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 11: Round four was supposed to continue today because of weather

1338
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 11: and we're experiencing it here in southern California. We're supposed

1339
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 11: to get a lot of rain. So this is going

1340
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 11: to continue Monday. Tea time is set for eleven am

1341
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 11: Eastern time. Wyndham Clark currently in the lead. All right,

1342
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 11: back to you, guys.

1343
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: I shot a sixty, yes, I heard at Pebble Beach,

1344
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 3: and he missed a couple of short parts.

1345
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 5: Yes, Brian Finley was very into the.

1346
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 3: Real what he did twelve hundred sixty, an all time

1347
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: course record at Pebble Beach for the US Open champion.

1348
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 3: All right, Montsi, we'll check in with you a little

1349
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: bit later on All right, Riches indulging me right now,

1350
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: I'm doing a little Hall of Fame talk, something that

1351
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 3: he has total disdain for. But I've got three guys

1352
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: that I'm predicting are going to get in, Julius Peppers,

1353
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 3: Devin Hester, and Patrick Willis.

1354
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 2: So they're two more slots open.

1355
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 4: Okay, let me guess one of them. And I'm very

1356
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 4: curious if you'll agree with me that This man kind

1357
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 4: of like a Tony Bisselli, deserves to be in just

1358
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 4: because the weight has been excruciating and the type of

1359
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 4: player he was for so long for his franchise was

1360
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 4: is worthy of a Hall of Fame. Bid it's Willie Anderson.

1361
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so I do not think Willy Anderson's going to

1362
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: get in. Here's my knock on Willie Anderson greater player

1363
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 3: as he was? What was he the fifth best offensive

1364
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 3: tackle of that generation? He wasn't Jonathan Ogden, he wasn't

1365
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: Orlando Pace, he wasn't Walter Jones, he wasn't Willie Rove. See,

1366
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 3: this is the problem for a guy like Willie Anderson,

1367
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 3: who never obviously won a Super Bowl either all those

1368
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 3: years of the Bengals. Look, there's other guys like Rodney Harrison.

1369
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 3: I hate to say this to Chris fred Taylor. These

1370
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 3: are the guys that are not going to get It

1371
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 3: comes down to two slots and a competition between multiple players.

1372
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk wide receiver. But he had that run.

1373
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: I know, But I mean in the I just.

1374
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 3: Gave you four Hall of Fame tackles of the same era.

1375
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 3: Was he better than any of them? Was he better

1376
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: than Walter Jones. I means he better than Ogden, Was

1377
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 3: he better than pay No, better than Okay, not overall?

1378
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 3: Not overall, he wasn't better than Rove Pace Ogden. I

1379
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 3: will argue that there was I didn't even mention Bisselli or.

1380
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 4: Biselli for that matter, but there were moments where he

1381
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 4: had better seasons than all of those guys.

1382
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 2: Okay, but it comes down to Kurer.

1383
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 3: So that's I'm not saying he won't get it down

1384
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 3: the road, but I've got two more names that I

1385
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 3: think will make it this year.

1386
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 2: Wide receiver. There's a three way jam.

1387
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 3: The same three guys have been on this list for

1388
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 3: several years, Tory Holt, Reggie Wayne, and Andre Johnson. And

1389
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 3: I think if you really think about this, there's an

1390
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 3: obvious choice because one guy had a very different resume

1391
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 3: than the other two. What did Reggie Wayne and Tory

1392
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 3: Holt have in common? Both had Hall of Fame quarterbacks, Yeah,

1393
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 3: and Hall of Fame wide receivers on the other side.

1394
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 4: That's right, Reggie Wayne had Marvin Harrison Harrison with Peyton Manning.

1395
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 2: And Isaac Bruce was on the other side with Kurt Warner.

1396
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: Greatest Show on turf Right, Andre Johnson, had Matt schaub

1397
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 2: Well and David Carr. But those guys were pretty goody.

1398
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 3: So when you were preparing to play the Houston Texans,

1399
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 3: you only had one guy to worry about.

1400
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 2: His name was Andre Johnson.

1401
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 3: I think Andre Johnson who had a phenomenal career. Considering

1402
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 3: again the team he was on, it was basically an

1403
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 3: expansion team. The Houston Texans were tragically, I mean, that

1404
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:11,959
Speaker 3: was an expansion team.

1405
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: Andrey Johnson is going to get the call.

1406
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 3: So now it leaves it down to two guys for

1407
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: one last spot, and one.

1408
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 2: Of them you know very very well.

1409
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 3: Okay, we're talking two edge guys, two defensive ends.

1410
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 2: One is Jared.

1411
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 3: Allen and one of them is Dwight Freeni and the

1412
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 3: others Dwight Freeana. Now, these guys have very similar resumes,

1413
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 3: and Jared Allen actually has been on this list for

1414
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 3: a couple of more years than Dwight Freeny. That being said,

1415
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: Dwight Freene has that Super Bowl Oh yeah, he does

1416
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: with the Colts. And I got to know Dwight Freenie

1417
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 3: when he was a teammateeers yep, with the Chargers.

1418
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 2: Dwight. Dwight's a great guy, great guy, I mean, a

1419
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: super guy, and I just get a suspicion that the

1420
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: tie breaker with those two is that super Bowl win.

1421
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 3: So that's my list. So I've got Peppers, I got

1422
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 3: Patrick Willis, I got Hester, I have Andre Johnson, and

1423
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 3: I got Dwight Freemy.

1424
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 2: That is my guest.

1425
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 4: I will say this in defensive Jared Allen, Yeah, and

1426
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 4: I feel similarly about it.

1427
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: I believe he'll make the Hall time. I think he should.

1428
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 4: I think he ought to because when you really think

1429
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 4: about those Vikings teams versus those Colts teams across from

1430
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 4: Freeeny was Robert Mathis, Yes, and that guy could really

1431
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 4: get after the pass.

1432
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 2: He did. Great player. Jared Allen.

1433
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 4: On the other hand, it felt very much like an

1434
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald with the Los Angeles Rams, where they could

1435
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 4: double and triple team Jared Allen. All they wanted because

1436
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 4: you didn't have as many concerns across the Minnesota front

1437
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 4: that you did when you were facing the Indianapolis Colts

1438
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 4: with Mathis and Freey. And in fact, if you look

1439
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 4: at the sack totals, that's the reason why Jared Allen,

1440
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 4: I mean started really struggling to be as impactful in

1441
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 4: sacking the quarterback later in his career because he didn't

1442
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 4: have as much talent playing alongside of him.

1443
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 3: So Ephram was here and we were talking about Dwight

1444
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 3: Freeney because I know he had brought up Freeny because

1445
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 3: I'd asked him, you know, thirteen years offensive tack in

1446
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 3: the league, who gave you the most trouble? And he

1447
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 3: used to always men some Dwight Freenie. He goes here

1448
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 3: was what happened so early on his career. They had

1449
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: played maybe six games against each other. And Freanie was

1450
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 3: a speed guy. Oh yeah, I mean he was.

1451
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 2: He actually started his college career as a safety. I didn't,

1452
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 2: and they moved him to defense of air. Wow. Yeah,

1453
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 2: so you know, and and Ephraim said I could handle

1454
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: his because he'd have signature spin moves, spin and he's

1455
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: got this.

1456
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 4: Watching him at practice teaching guys how to do the

1457
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 4: spin move, he would teach like, okay, so as you

1458
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 4: were spinning. This was so fascinating to me as an

1459
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 4: offensive lineman. I'm curious people are interested, but I always

1460
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 4: thought it was amazing. I would watch him do this.

1461
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 4: He was like as you're spinning. He was like, a

1462
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 4: lot of guys spin and get away from the tackle.

1463
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 4: He's like, you got to lean with all your weight

1464
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 4: into the guy when you spin. And he was like,

1465
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 4: and as you're coming out of it, use your inside

1466
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 4: arm to basically clamp their arm down so that they

1467
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 4: can't get a finger on you. As you're making your

1468
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 4: way on the inside, rush to the quarterback now, And

1469
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 4: everybody knew it was coming. Everybody knew Dwight was setting

1470
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 4: you up for the spin movement at some point. But

1471
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 4: it happened so fast, and he was such a technician

1472
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 4: and he concentrated on every single body movement that almost

1473
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 4: nobody could stop it.

1474
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 3: But here's where Ephraim said, he took it next level.

1475
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 3: So it was maybe the seventh or eight time they

1476
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 3: played against each other, yeah, and that by this time

1477
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 3: Ephraim he could handle the spin thing all right. So

1478
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 3: he's getting ready and Freenny puts his helmet down right

1479
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 3: into Ephraim's chest, runs him over. Ephraim said, the next

1480
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 3: thing I'm looking at is the lights upstairs and the

1481
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 3: ankle of my quarterback going down. And he said after

1482
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 3: the game, he goes up to Freenie like, what was that?

1483
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: Where did you find that? He says, what, we been

1484
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: watching film and me going against you, and we thought

1485
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 2: let's try this, and he goes, that was the difference. Suddenly, Frienny,

1486
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: he had the strength. I mean that was Reggie White's

1487
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: entire career. I mean he just bull rushed everybody right,

1488
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 2: and no one could contain him. So that was it.

1489
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 3: So anyway, I've never been right on five for five.

1490
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 3: I'm hoping maybe this will be the first year. I

1491
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 3: think my arguments are fairly decent for these I mean

1492
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 3: there's not a weak name on this list. Jarry Evans

1493
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 3: outstanding player. You remember Jarny of course. Yeah, I mean

1494
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: there's and Roddy Harrison.

1495
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 2: Dude.

1496
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 4: So look, we have a list again of candidates for

1497
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. Everybody, in my opinion, should be

1498
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 4: in and and so before we run to break here, yeah,

1499
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 4: I just want to say the reason why I think

1500
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 4: halls of Fame are stupid is because they're subjective. Is

1501
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 4: because in order to be in the Hall of Fame,

1502
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 4: you have to have a group of people in a

1503
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 4: room decide collaboratively that you're welcome into this hallowed hall,

1504
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 4: that celebrates greats, and if you're not in somehow it

1505
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 4: diminishes your light, like say Dwight Freeney doesn't get in,

1506
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 4: or say Jared Allen never gets in, or Willie Anderson

1507
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 4: never gets in. For the rest of their life, they

1508
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 4: have to deal with the fact that they're lesser than

1509
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 4: these other greats, who, in many people's opinion, he's just

1510
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 4: as good as but he can't have his bust, you know,

1511
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 4: forever memorialized next to these guys. I think it's unfair.

1512
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 4: I think it's stupid. I know sports are unfair. I

1513
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 4: know sometimes sports are stupid, But to me, there's no

1514
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 4: reason for it.

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01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 2: He doesn't make sense and any member.

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01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders said there should be different tiers for the

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01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:39,520
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.

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01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: Even that I'm more fan of than the current set up.

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01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 3: He says, you know, because there are the you know,

1520
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 3: like there's the Tom Brady's of the world, right, and

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01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 3: then there are quarterbacks that are not Tom Brady.

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01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, build him away, yeah exactly, all right.

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Speaker 3: Coming up on the other side, speaking of quarterbacks, how

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 3: much impact did these coaches actually have on their quarterbacks?

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01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 3: You know, we had this whole thing about Brady and Belichick,

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01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 3: and we have all these Hall of Fame coaches with

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01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 3: these Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

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01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 2: Who actually makes Who will break it down with the

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01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and coaches in this Super Bowl. This is Fox

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01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday.

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 3: Steve Hartman, Rich Ormurger, this is Fox Sports Sunday. We're

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01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 3: live from the tirerack dot Com studios as it get

1533
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 3: ready for the Super Bowl. I'm looking at a list

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01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 3: of coaches that have won multiple Super Bowls, and almost

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 3: all of them have Hall of Fame quarterbacks attached to

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01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 3: those multiple Super Bowl wins, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

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01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 3: I never seen why there is not more of an

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01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 3: argument that the greatest coach in the history of the

1539
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 3: NFL is Joe Gibbs. He won three Super Bowls. The

1540
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 3: only other coaches ever to win three or more Super

1541
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 3: Bowls are Bill Walsh, Chuck Noll, and Bill Belichick. Yeah,

1542
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 3: and obviously Belichick ed Brady, Chuck Noll had Bradshaw, Bill

1543
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 3: Walsh had Joe Montana. Joe Gibbs won three Super Bowls.

1544
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 3: The three different quarterbacks, none of them have had a

1545
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,480
Speaker 3: sniff of the Hall of Fame. Joe Feisman, Doug Williams,

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01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 3: and Mark Rippon. Those are the three quarterbacks he won

1547
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 3: super Bowls with. I don't understand why he doesn't get

1548
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 3: more of a mentioned when we talk about the greatest

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01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 3: coaches in the history of the NFL.

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01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, he went to a fourth Super Bowl.

1551
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 4: I think exactly what you're saying is the tail wagging

1552
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 4: the dog. Part of the reason why we remember Bill Walsh,

1553
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 4: part of the reason why we will always remember Bill

1554
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 4: Belichick or any of these coaches who have coached Hall

1555
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 4: of Fame quarterbacks is because the Hall of Fame quarterback

1556
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 4: helps brighten their star.

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01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: It's the truth.

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01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 4: And that's again another reason, getting back to the point

1559
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 4: we already made.

1560
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 2: Well, who made who? Any reader?

1561
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 4: Patrick mahomes, Well again, I've always answered this debate question

1562
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 4: the same way with Tom Brady and Belichick, with Montana

1563
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 4: and Young and Walsh, with any coach at any great quarterback.

1564
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 4: They needed each other because Tom Brady needed a team

1565
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 4: to trust him as a six round draft pick, which

1566
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 4: he ended up being in New England, to go out

1567
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 4: there and perform the service. Look, I mean, even though

1568
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 4: we won a Super Bowl, there was still a decision

1569
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 4: to make a quarterback in New England. Because you remember

1570
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 4: it was Bledsoe who had the concussion or the ankle injury.

1571
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 4: I think maybe both occurred to him during that season.

1572
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 4: That gave Tom Brady opportunity to get those starts and

1573
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 4: win that Super Bowl. They had to make a decision

1574
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 4: on Bledsoe whether they were going to continue to roll

1575
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 4: with the kid or they were going to bring back

1576
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 4: Drew Well.

1577
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 3: Brady's even said had they not won the Super Bowl,

1578
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 3: if their season had ended with the tuck play, which

1579
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 3: was their first playoff game at home, and they lose

1580
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 3: that game and their season ends, Brady has said publicly

1581
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 3: Bledsoe would have been back as the starting quarterback.

1582
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 4: And so that's my point is, you need to have

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01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 4: a coach who believes in you. You need to have

1584
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 4: an organization who believes in you. You need to have

1585
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 4: a coach who can develop your talent. And so all

1586
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 4: of these great quarterbacks, they Mahomes included, they needed the

1587
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 4: coach that they were paired with at very least early

1588
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 4: in their career. When they found the coach who was

1589
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 4: special for them at some point in their career. But

1590
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 4: to your point about Gibbs, the reason why he's not

1591
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 4: given as much a claim is because he didn't have

1592
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 4: that guy. He didn't have that one quarterback whose success

1593
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 4: will forever be linked to hich makes.

1594
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: His record even more remarkable. I'm with you.

1595
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the reason why a lot of these

1596
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,480
Speaker 4: discussions are very dumb, because they're all subjective.

1597
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:56,839
Speaker 3: Okay, how much impact? Talk about the Purty Shanahan situation.

1598
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 3: So the last time we had this matchup four years ago,

1599
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo missed a pass. We could almost tell instantly. Remember,

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01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 3: I think John Lynch was on the sidelines. The forty

1601
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 3: nine Ers had blown this fourth quarter lead, Mahomes had

1602
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 3: led the comeback, and Garoppolo misses a pass that you know,

1603
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 3: could have swayed the game in the forty nine ers favor,

1604
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 3: and they looking at each other like, we need a

1605
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 3: new quarterback. And of course they traded all that draft

1606
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 3: capital for Trey Lance that busted in their face. And

1607
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: then they luck into Brock Purdy, who has them back

1608
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. Who's had a greater impact Shanahan

1609
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: on Purty or Perty on Shanahan.

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01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 4: In this situation, There's no question. And I would have

1611
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 4: answered this question the same way with Belichick and Brady

1612
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 4: back in the early two thousands, one hundred percent Shanahan

1613
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 4: on party, and it was Belichick's influence on Brady at

1614
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 4: first that made him into what he became. I mean,

1615
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 4: Brock Purdy. It's still not perfect. He still makes a

1616
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 4: lot of mistakes, but he's been able to work this

1617
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine ers system extremely well and lead

1618
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 4: this team at times and other times he's needed them

1619
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 4: to take the torch and run with it too. It's worked,

1620
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 4: but it's worked because Kyle Shanahan's an elite coach.

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01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 3: All right, there are more players than just quarterbacks getting

1622
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 3: ready for this big game. Next Sunday, we're gonna break

1623
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 3: down these rosters. This is Fox Sports Sunday. As we

1624
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 3: continue to watch the Pro Bowl games twenty twenty four,

1625
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 3: the Flag Football Game is in full force as the

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01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 3: Manning Brothers coaching, and there's c J Stroud. What a

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01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,440
Speaker 3: rookie season this guy had. He's going to be collecting

1628
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 3: some hardware coming up here on. And by the way,

1629
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 3: so you have that Offensive Rookie of the Year award, yep,

1630
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 3: you gotta fill for Puka Nakua, right. The guy sets

1631
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 3: an all time NFL record for receptions and yards by

1632
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 3: a rookie. The yardage record, by the way, had been

1633
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 3: on the book since nineteen sixty. That's right, and he's

1634
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 3: not gonna win the award wrong year for him, any

1635
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 3: other year he wins going away, but he picked the

1636
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 3: same year of CJ.

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01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: Strap.

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01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 4: I feel I feel terrible for a lot of these

1639
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 4: guys who you know, they're bunched up in the same

1640
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 4: year that they have success because those individual rewards or

1641
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 4: I should say awards and accolades. You don't really think

1642
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 4: about him as much during your playing career because you're

1643
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 4: you're constantly looking forward if you're if you're a talented app.

1644
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 2: But after your career, oh yeah, that's when it happens.

1645
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: That's when those chickens come home to roosts.

1646
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 4: You start thinking like, yeah, geez, you know, I really

1647
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 4: probably should have won that one.

1648
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Speaker 3: Well, most people will assume, oh, man, I remember you

1649
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Speaker 3: were the offensive rookie.

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Speaker 2: Ye, No, I didn't know that was me. That wasn't me.

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Speaker 3: we're gonna do an extra hour.

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Speaker 2: So once again we're this is a tradition for us. Now, rich,

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Speaker 2: that's right, like that lead in the countdown as you

1660
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: get ready for the game, and you know, next Sunday,

1661
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Speaker 2: of course we're going to get into the prop AADs

1662
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Speaker 2: and all the other fun things about watching a super Bowl.

1663
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Speaker 3: I've said this about the Super Bowl over the years.

1664
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 3: I've been fortunate to have been credentialed for Super Bowl

1665
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 3: Week twenty six times. Yeah, that's a lot, a lot

1666
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 3: of super Bowls and I only actually went to four

1667
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 3: super Bowls.

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Speaker 2: If you ever say, well, what's it like to go

1669
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: to a super Bowl? Like one year, I'd like to

1670
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 2: go to a super Bowl. I'm not saying don't, but

1671
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, if you are like the

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01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: overwhelming majority of Americans, and we know, the Super Bowl

1673
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 2: is the most watched show every single year by leaps

1674
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: and bounds, and by the way, it will be very

1675
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: interesting this year. Did you see how many viewers we

1676
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 2: had for those conference championship games? Okay, so we're over

1677
01:22:58,960 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 2: fifty million.

1678
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 4: Now, look the Super Bowl, all these games, I mean,

1679
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 4: even the NFC Championship game, but definitely the AFC Championship game.

1680
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 4: Because of Taylor Swift's impact, You're going to have a

1681
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 4: lot of new viewers too. I can't tell you how

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01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 4: many times somebody in my life or somebody who you

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01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 4: know might be on the fringe of an acquaintance but

1684
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 4: knows I'm in sports broadcast has asked me about the

1685
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 4: Chiefs or Taylor Swift at.

1686
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Speaker 2: One point or another.

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01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 4: You know, Oh, my wife makes me watch all the

1688
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 4: Chiefs games now because she wants to see if they're

1689
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 4: going to show Taylor Swift reactions. And I'm thinking to myself, like,

1690
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 4: I had no idea a how big of a star

1691
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 4: she was, especially this year.

1692
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 2: I mean, this tour that chief.

1693
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 3: She's always been a star, but she's gone through the stratosphere.

1694
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 4: And then on top of it, how many people, not

1695
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 4: just women, not just you know, young women, but how

1696
01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 4: many people period are so invested in the story that

1697
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:05,440
Speaker 4: is hers in Travis Kelsey's relationship that it's driven viewership

1698
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 4: numbers to the point where Front Office.

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Speaker 2: Sport put out a tweet. I don't think there was

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Speaker 2: an article attachment.

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01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 4: There might have been, but one of those online publications

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01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 4: put out a financial impact estimate of over three hundred

1703
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 4: and thirty million dollars. Is the assumed financial impact Taylor

1704
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 4: Swift has had on the Chiefs in the NFL just

1705
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 4: by merely being Travis Kelcey's girlfriend.

1706
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Speaker 3: See here's the thing, and I want to get back

1707
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 3: to her impact on this Super Bowl broadcast on CBS

1708
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 3: coming up here shortly. But the thing about attending a

1709
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 3: Super Bowl game, and this is assuming you don't have

1710
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 3: a horse in the race. Look at if one of

1711
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 3: the two teams is your team, it.

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Speaker 2: Would be like any big game. But that's it. When

1713
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: you're in the stadium, it's just another game.

1714
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 3: And what's more frustrating is you paid an insane amount

1715
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 3: of money to see a game. It's a football game.

1716
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 3: Now to me, it's a television experience. Yeah, I agree,

1717
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: And I feel like the four Super Bowls that I

1718
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 3: actually was in attendance are games I missed because I

1719
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 3: didn't get the super Bowl experience that comes with the

1720
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 3: broadcast of the Super Bowl. This will be the most

1721
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 3: watched super Bowl of all time. I don't think there's

1722
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 3: any question about it. You got star power, you got

1723
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 3: an intriguing matchup. The betting line is, you know, it's

1724
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 3: been going back and forth. It's almost a pick them game.

1725
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 3: It's basically what it is between these two teams. There's

1726
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 3: no clear underdog in this matchup. And then there's the

1727
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift factor. So if you're CBS and you got

1728
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 3: to think about this, right, because you need to build

1729
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 3: your audience. Sometimes the game takes care of that, right.

1730
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 3: If it's a competitive game throughout, you don't have to

1731
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 3: worry about it. But if it's not, and we seen

1732
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 3: that happen few times now, you've got to have plan B.

1733
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 3: So your CBS and you're producers, you're all getting ready

1734
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 3: for the broadcast, and the name Taylor Swift comes up.

1735
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

1736
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 3: And she, by the way, is going out of her way, moncey,

1737
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 3: can we get our residence Swifty here?

1738
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: Moncey. It came open up her mic.

1739
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 3: So she is going to make a special trip to

1740
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: be in Vegas to support her boyfriend.

1741
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 5: Yes, it seems as that's the story.

1742
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 11: But she's in the midst of what of her the

1743
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 11: Asian part of her that is going to be part

1744
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,919
Speaker 11: of her tour in Tokyo.

1745
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 5: In Tokyo.

1746
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 3: So she's gonna fly out of Tokyo to get to

1747
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 3: Vegas and then go back.

1748
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 10: Is that?

1749
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, she still has more. I don't know if she's

1750
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 5: going back to Tokyo, but then she will leave again.

1751
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 11: Her tour is not done, but she's gonna make it

1752
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 11: with enough time. Because of the time difference, She's actually

1753
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 11: gonna be perfectly fine.

1754
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: Okay.

1755
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 3: So here here's the thing about her, because in this

1756
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 3: instance she has me compolarizing. There are those that are

1757
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 3: big fans and can't get enough of her, and then

1758
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 3: there are those that say, why in the midst of

1759
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl am I seeing so much of Taylor Swift?

1760
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 4: I understand that. But here here's the thing, and this

1761
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 4: is this is the thing that's kind of always been

1762
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:23,480
Speaker 4: true about the NFL really, barring anything any other distraction,

1763
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything that's going to detract from

1764
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 4: fan viewership. You know, true fans of the game, Like

1765
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 4: the people who would show up and watch the Super

1766
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 4: Bowl anyways, are going to watch the Super Bowl period,

1767
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 4: Like they're not turning it off because they're like, oh

1768
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 4: that's enough, I'm turning off this. You know, fourteen thirteen

1769
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 4: football game, because they're just showing way too much Taylor Swift.

1770
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 5: Click, yeah, that's not happening.

1771
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 2: That's not happening.

1772
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 4: But you will have a lot of people who were

1773
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 4: disinterested completely in the Super Bowl, you know, previously to

1774
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:02,480
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift's involvement. You know, I mean, name the circumstance

1775
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 4: a drinking game created around Taylor Swift sightings.

1776
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, well, I mean you know that's it's

1777
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 2: got to be a betting prop.

1778
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 5: It is the biggest one.

1779
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: So what is the over.

1780
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 3: Under on Taylor Swift sightings camera shots? See, there's also

1781
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 3: that question when you do something like this, do you

1782
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 3: include pregame? It has to be during the game. It

1783
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 3: has to be from kickoff to the end of the game,

1784
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 3: because you know, you could have several shots of her

1785
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 3: arriving at the stadium or whatever you want to do,

1786
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 3: but those should not count.

1787
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: But do we have an over under?

1788
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 5: This is taking for her. But I can tell you

1789
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,759
Speaker 5: that she has no rush to leave from the Super Bowl.

1790
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,560
Speaker 11: After she leaves Tokyo, her next one is in Singapore

1791
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 11: and it's March.

1792
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: Third, Okay, so she's going to be at the entire game.

1793
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 5: Yes, she has no rush to leave.

1794
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I don't know if there's a line,

1795
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 2: what would you set the lineup? Monset?

1796
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 5: How many times we're going to see her? I don't

1797
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 5: know exactly.

1798
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 3: Okay, let me let me say I put the number

1799
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 3: and a half to half. It's gonna be way more

1800
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 3: than that.

1801
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what if I put I would put the

1802
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 2: over under at twenty five, I would say this.

1803
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 3: I will put the over under it six and a half. Six,

1804
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 3: I would pund over, you're going over six.

1805
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: And a half.

1806
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 13: Are you guys going over Taylor Swift Grammy Awards or

1807
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 13: Chief's total touchdowns? This is an actual problem. How many

1808
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 13: nominations does she have? That's a good question.

1809
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 2: By the way, she's never won.

1810
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 3: Let's see that's she's won every Yeah, she won every Grammy,

1811
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 3: every Grammy.

1812
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 13: There's a prop for uh, will her flight be delayed

1813
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 13: on the way from Tokyo to all right?

1814
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,759
Speaker 3: Okay, let's say let's say I set the lineed Taylor

1815
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 3: Swift shots during the game, not pre game, not post game,

1816
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 3: but during the game.

1817
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 2: I have to read this. I just this. Anybody going

1818
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 2: under This is from the Japanese Embassy, a statement from

1819
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 2: the Embassy of Japan on Taylor swifts reported travel from

1820
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 2: Japan to the United States.

1821
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 4: Are you ready for this? And this is from February second,

1822
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 4: so two days ago. The Embassy of Japan in the

1823
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 4: United States is aware of the recent media reports concerning

1824
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 4: the steps Taylor Swift will need to take to travel

1825
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 4: from Tokyo after her concert on February tenth to Lost

1826
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 4: Vegas in time to watch the Kansas City Chiefs play

1827
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 4: in Super Bowl fifty eight. Despite the twelve hour flight

1828
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 4: and seventeen hour time difference, the Embassy can confidently speak

1829
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 4: now and say that if she disparts Tokyo in the

1830
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 4: evening after the concerts, she should come throughly arrive in

1831
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 4: Vegas before the super Bowl begins. Speak now, by the way,

1832
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 4: is a little bit of a reference there. We know

1833
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 4: that many people in Japan are excited experience Taylor Swift's erastour.

1834
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 4: We wanted to confirm that anybody concerned can be fearless

1835
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 4: in knowing that this talented performer can wold Japanese audiences

1836
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 4: and still make it to Vegas in time to support

1837
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 4: the Chiefs when they take off the field for.

1838
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 2: The Super Bowl. Wearing Oh it's so good.

1839
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 13: I have I have the odds for the first person

1840
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 13: to be shown next to Taylor Swift at the Super

1841
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 13: Bowl at plus one hundred, we've got Brandy Mahomes. I

1842
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 13: think that's pretty logical. I, however, would take at plus

1843
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 13: thirty three hundred, Mike Tyson.

1844
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 5: Nice Mike Tyson.

1845
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1846
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 2: By the way, Jason Kelsey gonna be back in.

1847
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,480
Speaker 13: He is on this list at plus five hundred.

1848
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 2: Plus five hundred, Yes, dude, he will one. But he

1849
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 2: take off his shirt again.

1850
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 5: Let's hope.

1851
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 11: So because I mean, you got to step up your game. Well,

1852
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 11: he's got to do something more.

1853
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 2: There has to be a prop bet with Jason Kelsey

1854
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 2: pop in the top.

1855
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 11: There is another prop bet, will Travis Kelsey proposed to

1856
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 11: Taylor Swift.

1857
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so now this is back. This gets back to

1858
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 3: the conspiracy theory. If he does it all everything, if

1859
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 3: he sees it all cry So basically this is how

1860
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 3: the conspiracy theories have it. So the Chiefs win the game,

1861
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 3: obviously that has to be it. Yeah, And then Kelsey

1862
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 3: gets down on the knee. Before he does that, he

1863
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 3: lifts up his shirt to show his bandage profisor. And

1864
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 3: then after he proposes to her, She turns to the

1865
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 3: camera and says, vote for Joe Biden. Stop that, right,

1866
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 3: So these are the conspiracy theories of how this is

1867
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 3: all going to play out.

1868
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 13: After the game, we have how long after kickoff Taylor

1869
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 13: Swift has shown off the game clock the current favorite

1870
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 13: is under seven and a half minutes at minus two

1871
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 13: hundred and then total time shown live current favorite is

1872
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:29,719
Speaker 13: over thirty two and a half seconds.

1873
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 4: Are you more want to see? So they have it

1874
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 4: based on time, So it's like TV time that you do. Which,

1875
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 4: by the way, if you think about it, anything and

1876
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:43,440
Speaker 4: I mean anything that is worthy to put on television

1877
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 4: for thirty seconds in more during the Super Bowl, what

1878
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 4: is a thirty second ad going for?

1879
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 9: Right?

1880
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 2: I mean it was it? Is it? I mean is

1881
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 2: it five million per thirty seven? I mean it's ten million?

1882
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 4: Who knows, it's got to be astronomical. So you're talking

1883
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 4: about just for showing up. It is a five million

1884
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 4: dollar ad, a free ad for Taylor Swift. So I

1885
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 4: don't know, even if she's kind of over Travis Kelsey,

1886
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 4: even if this relationship isn't as strong as we think

1887
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 4: it is, it is such a good idea to.

1888
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 11: Just show up ye seven million is the running for

1889
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,799
Speaker 11: a thirty second ad Steve danswer.

1890
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 2: She makes seven million dollars by.

1891
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 13: She's nominated for six Grammys this year, So the Chiefs

1892
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 13: would have to score seven touchdowns for that, have to hit.

1893
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 13: I don't know if they're gonna do that.

1894
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I'm whatever. Yeah, I'll take Taylor Swift on

1895
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 2: that one.

1896
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 3: Are you more excited about the possibility of her jumping

1897
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 3: into the arms of her victorious UH boyfriend or her

1898
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 3: weeping on the sidelines consoling him if the Chiefs were

1899
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,799
Speaker 3: to lose. What is more appealing you think in terms

1900
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 3: of seeing Taylor Swift after the game?

1901
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 4: I love love, I love it, and so and so

1902
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 4: I want to see I wanted this is what I

1903
01:33:58,360 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 4: want to see.

1904
01:33:59,160 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 2: I want to see.

1905
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty eight decided on a last second Travis

1906
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 4: Kelcey touchdown reception. He heaves the ball in the air

1907
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 4: and somebody's gonna collect it for him because that'll be

1908
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 4: memorabilia from now until forever. And then as he's scrambling

1909
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 4: around the field being mauled by his teammates, says they're

1910
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 4: erecting the stage to do the trophy presentation. All of

1911
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 4: a sudden there in the distance, he finds his blonde

1912
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 4: haired siren and he goes running across the field. There's confetti,

1913
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 4: red and white confetti reining down and as he slides

1914
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 4: onto his knee in front of her, out of breath,

1915
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 4: gassed from the final performance of potentially his career. Because

1916
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 4: at the same time he's gonna announce his retirement, he

1917
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 4: is going to ask her hand in marriage, and he's

1918
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 4: gonna pull the ring out of his jockstrapping.

1919
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 2: You'd be like you played the entire game with a

1920
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 2: ring in your pants.

1921
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 3: Wow, and like anything for Taye.

1922
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, last one here, unless you guys want to just

1923
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 13: go through all these because they're pretty funny, all.

1924
01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 2: Right, We'll save some of them for next Sunday.

1925
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 13: What Tony Roe will say first, Jim slash Jimmy or

1926
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 13: Taylor slash Swift. Favorite is currently Jim slash Jimmy.

1927
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, what are the odds during

1928
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 3: ushers halftime show that the crowd starts chanting we won Taylor,

1929
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 3: we wont Taylor during Ushers halftime?

1930
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 4: I put minus odds on that that's a favorite for

1931
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 4: the Taylor chance.

1932
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 11: At some point, I just don't think there's gonna be

1933
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 11: that many Swifties at this game because it's pricey.

1934
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 13: They spend all their money going to see your lives. Yeah,

1935
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 13: that's good point.

1936
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,520
Speaker 2: Point. Is there any clear.

1937
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 3: Dominant stat either offensively or defensively for either one of

1938
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 3: these teams that gives that team a clear edge?

1939
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 2: Or break it down? This is Fox Football Sunday, Steve Harvin,

1940
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,919
Speaker 2: rich Ornberger, Fox Sports Sunday.

1941
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 3: I go back and forth Sports Sunday Football Sunday. We

1942
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 3: talk a lot of football here, to say the least.

1943
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 3: Once again, we're live from the ty iraq dot com studios.

1944
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Speaker 3: I have a question for our producer Bo.

1945
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Speaker 2: So Bo.

1946
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Speaker 3: During the season with our Red Zone Radio, we've over

1947
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Speaker 3: the years have been fortunate enough to get the number

1948
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Speaker 3: one broadcast teams on our show several times. Joe Buck

1949
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Speaker 3: and Troy Aikman, We're both on our show many many times.

1950
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 3: Kevin Burke Clark Greg Olsen both on our show many

1951
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Speaker 3: many times. Are we to expect that Tom Brady is

1952
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Speaker 3: going to be a regular on our show next season?

1953
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Speaker 13: Listen? I spoke about this with Ryan Berschinger early this week.

1954
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Speaker 13: You guys remember him, but we don't really care about it. Yes, Yeah,

1955
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Speaker 13: he doesn't matter. I Rich is gonna have to pull

1956
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Speaker 13: some strings for you. Well, that's my whole point. In

1957
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Speaker 13: other words, he's being renigned with this. I cannot imagine

1958
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Speaker 13: that Tom Brady is going They're gonna say, hey, Tom Brady,

1959
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Speaker 13: can you take some time out of your day to

1960
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Speaker 13: go on the radio. I struggle to imagine that will happened.

1961
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Speaker 2: Even though I mean Troy Aikman did. Yeah, you'd think though,

1962
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Speaker 2: he's going to be talking with this old friend Rich. Yeah,

1963
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Speaker 2: that's that's the thing. I think.

1964
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Speaker 4: I think we would be smart just to be like,

1965
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Speaker 4: but Rich is there Tom, Yeah, I think he should.

1966
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Speaker 2: I'm playing it.

1967
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Speaker 3: Look at if Tom Brady it joins, because you know,

1968
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Speaker 3: if we get him once, well then.

1969
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Speaker 2: He'll do it again. Yeah we will, so so you know,

1970
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Speaker 2: I I'll bring him on. And by the way, we

1971
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Speaker 2: we know we know how to turn the charm on. Yeah. No,

1972
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Speaker 2: non believe me. But my point is for Rich.

1973
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 3: See I gotta look at I've heard all the Tom

1974
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,759
Speaker 3: Brady stories from Rich over the years.

1975
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Speaker 2: But my point is, let's say we bring Tom. Tom

1976
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Speaker 2: appreciates you coming on with us, getting ready for this

1977
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Speaker 2: game coming up. I'm also excited to sort of reunite

1978
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Speaker 2: you and Rich How how is that going to go over?

1979
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Speaker 2: Is he's going to be excited? I mean, he seems

1980
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Speaker 2: like a super nice guy about it.

1981
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Speaker 13: What we need to do is just parlay this into

1982
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 13: all of us getting invited to a pool party of Tom's.

1983
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Speaker 4: First of all, done, I'll help I'll help that. I'll

1984
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Speaker 4: secure that for sure. Second of all, I mean it's

1985
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Speaker 4: Papa Warmburger.

1986
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Speaker 2: You guys know me? Yes, you remember? You remember? I

1987
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 2: mean how many times have I let you guys down?

1988
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Speaker 13: Could I could I go into your phone and see

1989
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Speaker 13: Tom Brady's contact information?

1990
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Speaker 2: Let me look, I don't know. I certainly can promise

1991
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Speaker 2: you it's not up to date.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So I because again I don't want

1993
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Speaker 3: to put you in an uncomfortable situation.

1994
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Speaker 2: You're talking to me. You it's impossible, That's what I thought.

1995
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Speaker 2: I literally run. But my point is if we get

1996
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Speaker 2: Brady even once and it goes well, we'll get him again.

1997
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Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, that's how that will. See the thing is,

1998
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Speaker 2: it's like fishing. You sink the hook, yeah.

1999
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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden you just draw back

2000
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 4: on the on the what do they call it?

2001
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Speaker 2: The rod. Sure, yeah, we'll pull on the rod, right,

2002
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Speaker 2: we'll sink the hook.

2003
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Speaker 13: Who will be shirtless first? Jason Kelcey at minus ten

2004
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Speaker 13: thousand exactly. Taylor Swift come in and at plus two thousand.

2005
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Speaker 13: I don't think that's gonna happen.

2006
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

2007
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Speaker 13: Olivia Colpo is a plus twenty five hundred.

2008
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Speaker 3: Well, now I'll tell you. Okay, Now, are they engaged

2009
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Speaker 3: or Mary? What's the deal with her? Owen McCaffrey and McCaffrey.

2010
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Speaker 3: They're engaged. Yeah, yeah, Now she was miss Universe, Is

2011
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Speaker 3: that right?

2012
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

2013
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Speaker 11: She was.

2014
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Speaker 5: They're engaged.

2015
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Speaker 11: She just bought a suite for her mother in law

2016
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Speaker 11: to be to watch the game.

2017
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Speaker 5: It's gonna be her birthday.

2018
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Speaker 11: And her mother in law, Christian McCaffrey's mother, came out

2019
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Speaker 11: and was like, it's two million dollars to watch the

2020
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Speaker 11: Super Bowl in a suite. We can't afford it. And

2021
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 11: then Olivia Coople was like, I got you, and she

2022
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Speaker 11: bought her a.

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Speaker 2: Sweet Those kind of friends you need, YEA right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? And uh yeah, so I Olivia Coople is do

2025
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Speaker 5: you super sexy?

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Speaker 4: She is?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, I don't see how we don't show you find

2028
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Speaker 2: them a better couple than Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's.

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Speaker 11: Impossible to answer, but they they've been together either yes

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Speaker 11: or no, because I don't follow them as much as

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Speaker 11: I have been pro Travis Kelsey and Taylor saw from

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Speaker 11: the beginning.

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Speaker 5: I was one of the ones that believed it. I

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Speaker 5: was like, this is not fake, this is real.

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Speaker 2: So rich is not convinced.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we could pull it out. What's pull the receipts out?

2038
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Speaker 2: What?

2039
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Speaker 5: But I said it was I wasn't fake. I was like,

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Speaker 5: of course they like each other. Guys, why wouldn't they

2041
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Speaker 5: like each other?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it's worked well for Is any human have

2043
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Speaker 3: more commercials right now than Travis Kelcey.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we see it. But I mean, why we

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Speaker 4: have to be so cynical about this? Can't it just

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Speaker 4: be two mega famous million and slash billionaires coming together?

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Speaker 2: Famous was Travis Kelcey, two worldwide corporations on the account

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Speaker 2: of love. You think you think? Because I can percentage

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Speaker 2: of Swifties they'd ever heard of Travis Kelcey before he

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Speaker 2: started dating here five? How about point zero zero zero?

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Speaker 2: I really was, well, you cover.

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Speaker 5: Sports, but that's true.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a lot of swifties in the Kansas City,

2054
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Speaker 4: Missouri area.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna give you, speaking of Travis Kelcey, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna give you one single stat.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that is.

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Speaker 3: The difference in the Chiefs winning or the forty nine

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Speaker 3: Ers winning this game. One single stat and has to

2060
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 3: do with Kelsey. So in the first half against the

2061
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Speaker 3: number one defense in the NFL, the Baltimore Ravens, he

2062
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:24,719
Speaker 3: was targeted nine times.

2063
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Speaker 2: That had nine catches.

2064
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Speaker 3: Now, if the forty nine Ers don't take note of that,

2065
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Speaker 3: they will suffer the same fate as the Baltimore Raves.

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Speaker 3: The idea that Travis Kelcey, I'm gonna give me targeted

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Speaker 3: nine times again, nine catches and a half tells me

2068
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Speaker 3: you didn't do your homework in terms of how to

2069
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,799
Speaker 3: defend the passing game of the Kansas City Chiefs.

2070
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Speaker 5: It was all a ruse that he was injured all season.

2071
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Speaker 5: This was all plan. They were like, oh, he's injured,

2072
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Speaker 5: he's a movie.

2073
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Speaker 3: Between weeks between weeks eight and seventeen, he averaged only

2074
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Speaker 3: fifty yards of catch.

2075
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, fifty yards game season he disappeared.

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Speaker 13: Do you think that if that happens Fred Fred Warner

2077
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 13: will go up to Travis Kelsey and say, I need

2078
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Speaker 13: your trouble.

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Speaker 2: I honestly, I bet you and I actually know that.

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Speaker 4: So and then and then Travis might just echo it

2081
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 4: and say trouble.

2082
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Speaker 2: Trouble, level trouble.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you know in every postseason game that Travis Kelsey

2084
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 4: has caught a perfect eleven out of eleven from mahomes

2085
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 4: they've won. Yeah, so I think I think I think

2086
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 4: that there is something something to that that maybe the

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers should look into.

2088
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Speaker 2: You. I would say, it's a definite Please. I could

2089
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 2: not believe how no mismanaged the Ravens were in that

2090
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 2: AFC Championship game.

2091
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Speaker 4: Dude, it was a disasi. Defensively, we'll hang on in fairness.

2092
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 4: Defensively in the first half, they they stunged. Second half down,

2093
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 4: he did a good job. But offensively, when you have

2094
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson and Gus Edwards and cumulatively, I think he

2095
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 4: only planned like five runs for the two of them

2096
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 4: the entire the entire day.

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Speaker 3: Right, it'smar had thirty seven pass attempts in a one

2098
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 3: score game.

2099
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty seven. They ran the ball eighteen times. I mean,

2100
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Speaker 2: you know, look, I'm the number one rushing team in

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Speaker 2: the league.

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Speaker 4: I'm not an offensive coordinator, would never claim to be,

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Speaker 4: but that seems to be a bit a bit too

2104
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 4: many for Lamar Jackson. Now, look, Lamar Jackson is a

2105
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,839
Speaker 4: very talented passer. I'm not going to try to denigrate

2106
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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson here. I don't think that's fair. He he

2107
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 4: can do it, We've seen him do it. But I

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Speaker 4: think he's much better, very similar to Josh Allen in

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Speaker 4: some ways when you get him fired up running the

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Speaker 4: football when you're threatening the defense.

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Speaker 2: He had the four down playoff. I think it was

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Speaker 2: only two the whole two he I think it was

2113
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 2: only he had eight rushing attempts and six were scrambled.

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Speaker 4: I think it was sick where it might have been three.

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01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 4: But so that means you have a handful of plays

2116
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Speaker 4: design runs for your leading running back Gus Edwards and

2117
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 4: for your star rushing quarterback Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: You remember we're sitting here. He had.

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Speaker 3: Edwards had a fifteen yard run after that twenty yard

2120
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Speaker 3: keeper by Lamar Jackson.

2121
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Speaker 2: He did not carry the ball again in the half,

2122
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Speaker 2: and he carried it only two more times in the game. Yeah,

2123
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Speaker 2: was John Harbor on.

2124
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Speaker 3: The phone with his brother the entire game, and I

2125
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 3: don't know, he must have been distracted because he obviously

2126
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 3: wasn't watching the game. All right, let's find out what's

2127
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 3: trending right now, because Monci is ready, she's been giving us.

2128
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Speaker 2: Updates, and so I believe that you actually.

2129
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Speaker 3: Might favor slightly Christian McCaffrey's girl over that at Travis

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Speaker 3: Kelsey's Girl.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what do you like if I'm going to

2132
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 5: take one out on a date? Is that what you're saying,

2133
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 5: like if I'm gonna pick the date?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's different, it's different.

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Speaker 11: My love for Taylor Swift comes from being a Swiftie

2137
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 11: since she came out. We're the same age, yes, you know,

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01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,719
Speaker 11: so like when Taylor Swift came out, I was already

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Speaker 11: a fan when she was playing her guitar and she

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01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 11: was still a concert.

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Speaker 2: Well said that first, what was the first Taylor Swift

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01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 2: song that you're like?

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Speaker 11: You made a I loved song, our song, and she

2144
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 11: didn't even play it at the concert here that I

2145
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Speaker 11: went to.

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Speaker 5: So you can only imagine how just strat out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how she has the energy to do

2148
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 2: all the things all.

2149
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Speaker 5: The things she does.

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Speaker 3: She mean, what is she for forty songs at her concert?

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Speaker 11: Yes, it's and she does a surprise song or too,

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01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 11: So there's.

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01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 5: A little bit of change, and that's why she didn't

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01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 5: do our song.

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Speaker 2: But I have nothing but admiration and everything. It's amazing

2156
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 2: Lay's instruments.

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Speaker 11: So she played her guitar, she played the piano at

2158
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Speaker 11: the concert. No, it's absolutely incredible that she's still doing

2159
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 11: this era's tour. Let's check in with soccer because the

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty six World Cup Final will be played at

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Speaker 11: met Live Stadium on July nineteenth.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's home to the New York Jets and the

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Speaker 5: New York Giants.

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Speaker 11: Now, the US men's national team is going to begin

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Speaker 11: their World Cup journey in Los Angeles, playing its first

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Speaker 11: group stage game at Sofi Stadium on June twelfth. In

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Speaker 11: the NBA two games currently going on, Bradley Beal leading

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Speaker 11: the Suns with twenty four points and they're beating the

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Speaker 11: Wizard seventy to fifty two late in the second quarter.

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Speaker 5: The other game going on, it's the.

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Speaker 11: Magic who have taken the lead over the Piston sixty

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Speaker 11: eight sixty two, five minutes to go in the third.

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Speaker 11: Another NBA news, Doc Rivers gets his first win as

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Speaker 11: the Bucks. Now he's going to be the coach of

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Speaker 11: the Eastern Conference All Stars against the West.

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Speaker 5: This takes place on February.

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Speaker 11: Eighteenth in Indianapolis. He says he's gonna give his all

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Speaker 11: star ring and bonus to Adrian Griffin. In NFL news,

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Speaker 11: it's trending because Patrick Mahomes Senior, So, the father of

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Speaker 11: quarterback Patrick Mahomes was reportedly arrested Saturday on suspicion of

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Speaker 11: driving well intoxicated.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this is his third UI.

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Speaker 11: This would be his third unfortunately, so that's not good

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Speaker 11: for the Kansas City chiefs.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure if I'm Patrick.

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Speaker 11: Mahomes, I am not happy with the new No golf

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Speaker 11: today fellas. Round four of the Pebble Beach pro Am

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Speaker 11: was postponed to Monday because of the weather. TEA time

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Speaker 11: is at for eleven am Eastern Time.

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Speaker 5: Back to you, guys, that's.

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Speaker 3: Tough to deal with if you're Patrick Mahome and your

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Speaker 3: brother well yeah.

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Speaker 4: His brother I mean, has since been I guess I

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Speaker 4: don't know what you would what term you would use.

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01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 4: I'm not lawyer, but exonerated from the assault charges earlier

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Speaker 4: against the restaurant owner. You know, because you know there

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Speaker 4: was video that was released of him kissing a woman

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Speaker 4: who didn't look like was interested in kissing him allegedly.

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Speaker 2: But your dad gets a third DUI bust.

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Speaker 4: And then think about some of the things that have

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Speaker 4: happened with his wife, with Brittany.

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01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 2: Mahomes, where I mean, she's the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: In Buffalo, where she was showering fans in Buffalo with champagne,

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01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 4: she was celebrating a Chiefs win with I mean, this

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01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:56,799
Speaker 4: guy looked for all of the greatness that Patrick Mahomes

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01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 4: has brought the game, and it's been abundant. Unfortunately, his

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01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 4: family members and his spouse have done so many things

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01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 4: to detract from the shining, gleaming light that has been

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Speaker 4: his career success.

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Speaker 2: You would think would be a distraction, but it doesn't

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01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 2: seem to be. Maybe by getting on the field he

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01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 2: can block all that out. I guess, yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: stay on the field. It is a sanctuary.

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Speaker 4: I remember feeling like when I was on a practice

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01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 4: field or game field. You are so locked into the

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01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 4: task at hand that you don't think about anything else.

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Speaker 2: Going on in your life.

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Speaker 4: So maybe it is a great outlet for him because

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01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 4: there there there are some serious issues around him with

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Speaker 4: some of the people closest to him and is in

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Speaker 4: his immediate network. I'm so I'm so much more impressed

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Speaker 4: that he's able to keep his attention on the important

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Speaker 4: things professionally.

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Speaker 3: I have to ask you about your Patriots. Apparently they're

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01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 3: in talks to hire Ben McAdoo interesting as a assistant

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Speaker 3: head coach type role under Gerrod mal and helping Alex

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Speaker 3: Van Pelter offensive coordinator. By the way, mcadew's last job

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Speaker 3: was as the Panthers offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it.

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Speaker 3: Went so well in New York as a head coach,

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01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 3: and then of course he was the head coach of

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Speaker 3: the job and it went.

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01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 4: So well in Carolina with Bryce Young that I would

2234
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 4: say it's more of a no brainer and it's probably

2235
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 4: just getting the words on paper.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm wow. That's that's stunning.

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01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 13: Just like.

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Speaker 2: He's worked for seven different teams. I wonder why I

2239
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 2: can't keep a job.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I think, look like we know, the NFL is

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01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 4: a business of who you know and who likes you,

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01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 4: and a lot of coaches hire people that they know,

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01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 4: and people they like and people they feel they well,

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01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:51,799
Speaker 4: I guess.

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Speaker 3: That's the question with Drod Mayo. In other words, is

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01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 3: he just going to be an extension of Belichick? I

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01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 3: mean he's he's a lifer within that Patriots organization.

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01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 2: What it's going to change, Well, he's got a network

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01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 2: of people that he trusts all throughout the league in

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Speaker 2: terms of former players, guys who he's played with, guys

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Speaker 2: who've moved on to the coaching trade, and who can

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01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 2: inform him, you know, from a first person account, what

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01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 2: it's like to work with some of these coaches that

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01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 2: he's interested in hiring, or what it's like working with

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Speaker 2: them as coaches. But his own personal experience is a

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Speaker 2: one note, there's no question. But we've seen this before.

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Speaker 4: Also, when a coach spawns off of a coaching tree,

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01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that they're going to take every single

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01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 4: example and run with it identically. It's it looks different

2260
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 4: in different places. We've seen that with Sean mcvay's coaching tree.

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Speaker 4: Sean McVay is an obscenely talented, young, bright mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but even like a Demico Ryans, who obviously had

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01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 3: roots with the Texans organization.

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Speaker 2: He went elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: He went elsewhere, and he coached and frankly, when I

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01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 4: look at the Texans, I look at them as built

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Speaker 4: similarly offensively and defensively to how they were with the

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Speaker 4: same SYSTEMA.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't have that kind of out of house experience, right,

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01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 3: that's true. I mean he knows one system. EMA was

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Speaker 3: part of some great teams.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, the locker room is going

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Speaker 2: to be the big thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Belichick would admit it, but it seemed

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Speaker 3: to me he lost that locker room.

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Speaker 4: The biggest shift, Yeah, is where you're going with this

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Speaker 4: is the interpersonal skills of a Drod Mayo versus correct

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01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 4: a Bill Belichick. There is a different emotional intelligence. Now,

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Bill Belichick is emotionally unintelligent. You

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01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 4: can't be the leader of a dynasty for twenty years

2281
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 4: in the NFL if you don't understand people and how

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01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:41,640
Speaker 4: to communicate effectively. He did both. He understood people and

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01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 4: he communicated effectively. But I do think that there's a

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01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 4: bedside manner with Bill Belichick that didn't age well in

2285
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 4: the NFL with younger players that JIWD Mayo is going

2286
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:55,719
Speaker 4: to be able to bridge that gap a little bit easier.

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01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 4: I think that Girod is an excellent communicator. If you

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01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 4: listen to any of his conference you could tell that

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01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 4: that's a guy who commands respect in front of an audience.

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01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 4: And I'm certain when he gets in front of the

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01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 4: room in New England, there's gonna be familiarities. Worked for

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01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 4: the organization previously and for years, so he's gonna have

2293
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 4: no problem with his associations with this team and getting

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01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:21,600
Speaker 4: his culture instituted.

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01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:23,599
Speaker 2: It's going to be different than Bill Soo. I can

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01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 2: guarantee that all right.

2297
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Speaker 3: On the other side, this year's Super Bowl is in

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01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 3: Las Vegas for the first time.

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Speaker 2: Is that a problem? We'll tell you why it could be.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Football Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Hornberger, Fox

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Speaker 3: Football Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We're in transition right now.

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Speaker 3: Get ready for our five hour extravaganza next Sunday, getting

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01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 3: ready for the big Game. I want to thank everybody.

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01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 3: It's great to have Matzi back once again. Thanks for the.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast as usual, for her bringing it all in. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Bo of course, is our brilliant producer. Excited now that

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01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's going to be his personal friend.

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Speaker 13: Yeah. Also appreciate you, uh telling me that it's gonna

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Speaker 13: be a five hour show next week.

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01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did not know that to three Local Time

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01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 2: apartment and Ornberger. Yeah, leading you up to kickoff. That's right.

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Speaker 2: We get ready and Chris.

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01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 3: I we started the weekend off rough because I came

2315
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 3: after Chris about the game and Chris, Chris came after

2316
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 3: me with a vengeance because I'm looking. He covers Lions

2317
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:32,799
Speaker 3: football and he's a fan. He haats that, but he's

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01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 3: he's both. And he was very defensive, and you know,

2319
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 3: we got it back and forth, and I assured him

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with that.

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Speaker 2: Rich.

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Speaker 3: Rich and I have had you know, when you we

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01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 3: were doing six days a week together. Now, when you're

2324
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:48,759
Speaker 3: when you're locked in a room with the same person

2325
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 3: day after day after day, there are days when you're

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01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 3: looking at that person like, if you say one more

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01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 3: thing anything, I'm gonna freaking kill you.

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01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, oh, I have grown up to argue.

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01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 7: It is in an Italian household, and is definitely when

2330
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 7: we argue, I am trying to love that.

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01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm just going to Yeah, well that's good. Come at

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01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:09,720
Speaker 2: you because you know I love that. I like a

2333
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 2: spider monkey. I love to argue. Rich loves to argue.

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01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 2: So we all were we.

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01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 7: Strong Polverenes fr fur was going everywhere you You didn't

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01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 7: tell us when the game ended.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you had to go immediately to

2338
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:27,440
Speaker 3: your broadcast, but when the game ended and the realization

2339
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 3: and by the way, you remember we were talking about

2340
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 3: that nineteen fifty seven game between the forty nine ers

2341
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 3: and the Lions. Yeah, you know what, this happened a

2342
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 3: lot about it broke it doom. Remember, I broke that

2343
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 3: whole thing down. You know what the halftime score was

2344
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 3: that year, twenty four to seven. Forty nine Ers were

2345
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 3: winning twenty four to seven and they lost the game.

2346
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 3: And this time it was twenty four to celest Lions

2347
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 3: and they lost the game. So don't tell me that

2348
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 3: these historic references don't matter, because they do.

2349
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 2: What was you?

2350
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 3: I've never said that, so you say it all the time,

2351
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 3: But what was your move once that game was over?

2352
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 3: I had to go directly to a postgame stream. You

2353
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 3: can still find it on twitch and on YouTube. I

2354
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 3: was still fairly heated, not with the Lions, but the

2355
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 3: first thing you get right away is people going to

2356
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 3: the nth degree and people Lions fans who were immediately

2357
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 3: bringing out same old Lions, like, no, it's not the

2358
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 3: same old Lions. You just had went to two playoff games. Yeah,

2359
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 3: one two playoff games. It's dealing. It's frustration, but it's

2360
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 3: frustration of dealing with a blowback after that kind of loss.

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Speaker 2: Did Rob Parker call you and say, I know, did

2362
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 2: the Lions are still the line?

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01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 4: No?

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01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 2: No, no?

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01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 7: And if Rob Parker, and if Rob Parker called me,

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01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 7: I would have just told him, like, look, you tried

2367
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 7: to tell me at a Chargers game it was one

2368
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 7: playoff win and the division or a failure, and you

2369
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 7: keep and you really breaking your back moving those goalposts.

2370
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 7: But it was I was frustrated a little bit. I

2371
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 7: think I had kind of come to sense that the

2372
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 7: Lions were going to lose, even though they were trying

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01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 7: to charge down the field at the end.

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01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 2: I had had time to rationalize everything. But it happened.

2375
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:05,040
Speaker 2: You were in full celebration mode. No, I was not.

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01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 3: Four to seven leads the playoff.

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Speaker 7: We have something that we call and tried to Detroit

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Speaker 7: the third quarter. The Lions have been notoriously bad in

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Speaker 7: the third quarter, especially on offense. That was the turdest

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Speaker 7: of third quarters. But I was sitting there with a

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Speaker 7: with a draft in my text to my dad with uh,

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Speaker 7: Dave Bautista, He's there was like a video of him

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Speaker 7: from a WWE match where it's like, give me what

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01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 7: I want, give me what I want. I was going

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01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 7: to tell to send that to my dad, and unfortunately

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Speaker 7: I had to delete that.

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Speaker 13: I think there's something that's maybe a little bit calming

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Speaker 13: about losing a game that maybe you shouldn't have really

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Speaker 13: been in position to win, like the Super Bowl last year. Like,

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Speaker 13: as I watched the Eagles lose that game and it

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Speaker 13: kind of just the top clocked in. I was like, well,

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Speaker 13: you know, they lost to Patrick Mahomes. A lot of

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Speaker 13: people do that. I mean, the forty nine ers now

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Speaker 13: have been in the Super Bowl, what is his third

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Speaker 13: time in four year? They've been here a lot, They've

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Speaker 13: been in this position quite a bit, and the Lions

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Speaker 13: have never been here. So I don't know, Like I

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Speaker 13: can't speak for Lions.

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Speaker 7: Go had collapsed by the time they had they had tied,

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Speaker 7: and I was resigning to the fact at that point

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Speaker 7: as a.

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Speaker 2: Fan, a long time Detroit Lions fan.

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Speaker 4: Is there a part of you that's almost like it's

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01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 4: a catharsist to see them blow a big game?

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01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 2: No, not really, No, like there isn't.

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01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 4: Any feeling of like, well, not not that same old

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01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 4: Lions thing, because I understand how that grinds your gears

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01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 4: a little bit. But there's a little bit of like,

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Speaker 4: this is what we do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they went out and played their style of football

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01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 7: they gave. They lost on it unfortunately, and it sucks.

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Speaker 7: And part of me was like, this could be a

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Speaker 7: new game, or this could be disaster. But I really wasn't.

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01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 7: I wasn't feeling completely over it until I came in

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01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 7: Tuesday and Bo had sent me a text while I'm

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01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 7: driving saying go Lions. And I had not seen while

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01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 7: I was driving that Ben Johnson was returning.

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Speaker 2: What was de Troit? What was the outburst?

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Speaker 11: Like?

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Speaker 4: Because every fan has their moment where they're like, I

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Speaker 4: looks my cool little bit.

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Speaker 7: It was banning about twenty people from our discord. I

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Speaker 7: so like, I like that.

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Speaker 13: Quote from Dan Campbell post game where he was talking

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Speaker 13: about how he told the guys in the locker room

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01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 13: like you probably will not get here again.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna mention that, but I wanted to ask.

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Speaker 13: Rich like how he would take that as a player.

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Speaker 3: So he literally said after the game, we may never

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Speaker 3: get back here.

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Speaker 7: He even said he doesn't believe it himself, but I

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Speaker 7: think he meant that for the players in there, because

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01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 7: look so much that roster turns over, it's a lot

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Speaker 7: of hard work, it's well the same You're never.

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Speaker 2: The same team year to year.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, that seems a little weird for a guy who

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Speaker 3: has a historic run for the Lions to remind the

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Speaker 3: team after the game, we may never actually get back here.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't love that messaging.

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Speaker 4: And I'm now this is the first, honestly, this is

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Speaker 4: the first time I've heard or the quote being discussed.

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Speaker 4: Even It's something that was just kind of missed on

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Speaker 4: me altogether. So I'll go and I'll find it in context,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, there's audio of it. Because here's the funny

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01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 4: thing about it. You'll say a lot of things in

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Speaker 4: a moment emotionally that you regret. I mean, think about,

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Speaker 4: for example, what's the first thing that came out after

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Speaker 4: that Tampa Bay loss? The or I should say the

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia's lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Jason Jason Kelsey's retiring.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that was sourced correctly. Maybe Jason Kelsey was

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Speaker 4: walking around that locker room saying, I just played my

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Speaker 4: last game. I just played my last game, or hey,

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Speaker 4: it's been a great run, brother, like saying stuff like

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Speaker 4: saying goodbyes to people because this legitimately might be the

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Speaker 4: last time you say emotional things.

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Speaker 3: And I think I tell the producer of his podcast

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Speaker 3: reminded him, no, it's not your last game.

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Speaker 2: I think much money were making up this thing.

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Speaker 7: Nobody in the Lions took that loss harder than Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 7: I think that's what it comes down to on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well does he shave the goateee for good luck?

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Speaker 2: I hope not? Okay, all right, well, all right, well

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Speaker 2: next week, get ready for the five hour Trava Gan says,

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Speaker 2: we get ready for the big game right now, keep

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