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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Shoes here, and it's Thursday, which

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Speaker 1: means my dear friend Mark Lupo joins us. Hey, LUPI,

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Speaker 1: are you there here? You believe I felt really lonely

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Speaker 1: So I'm very grateful that you're here. Market. It's almost

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Speaker 1: an exclusive story from my sub stack. Meghan Markle is

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Speaker 1: has changed. Mark, you don't need millions and millions of

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Speaker 2: Okay, loopy, So Tiger Woods is facing a major legal

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Speaker 2: to subpoena detailed prescription data, including dosages, timelines, any warnings

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Speaker 2: about driving or medicated. Now the move signals aim more

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