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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome in to a Wednesday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. As the roster turnover in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four offseason has now taken on seismic proportions, what are

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Speaker 2: we gonna talk about today, Steve Guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't know we had all these plans. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about them on the show.

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Speaker 3: The Sabers game last night, like.

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Speaker 1: The wiley coyote pushing the plunger down on the Acme dynamite.

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Speaker 3: As tang box boom, and it blew.

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Speaker 1: Up in our faces. So our plans are no longer valid.

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Speaker 2: In case you've been living under a rock, the Bills

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Speaker 2: have reportedly traded wide receivers to fond digs, the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 2: along with a sixth round pick this year and a

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Speaker 2: fifth next year, in exchange for a twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: second round pick. That's the pick Houston got from Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: and knowing Minnesota is very likely to have a rookie

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Speaker 2: quarterback starting next season or Sam Darnald or Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: that could stand to be a pretty high ranking pick

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Speaker 2: in round two of next year's draft. The Texans will

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Speaker 2: inherit the nineteen million dollars in salary that he's due

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Speaker 2: this year, eighteen and a half in base that was

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Speaker 2: guaranteed last week or last month, and a little over

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Speaker 2: five hundred thousand bonuses for workouts and roster per game bonuses. Look,

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Speaker 2: it probably comes as a shock, and it was surprising

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Speaker 2: to us, I think, do mainly to the fact that,

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Speaker 2: and we've said this on this show, his cap figure

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Speaker 2: was cost prohibitive, and by moving him off the roster,

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Speaker 2: they've eliminated another three point two million in cap space

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Speaker 2: to work with this offseason. So there's a part of me,

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Speaker 2: Steve that wonders if Brandon Bean, you know, sure you'd

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Speaker 2: like to get an extra pick this year, but maybe

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Speaker 2: you take the pick next year, because you know, you

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Speaker 2: may not be able to fit a whole rookie pool

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Speaker 2: under the cap if you have multiple twos and a one.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, there's a lot in this. What it basically

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Speaker 1: way it sits now, without knowing who they're going to

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Speaker 1: draft at twenty eight or any of that stuff. The

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Speaker 1: Bills took on an extra three point two million in

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Speaker 1: caps cap hit that they were going to have anyway,

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Speaker 1: but they got three point two million extra and they

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Speaker 1: don't have Stepp Digs. Yeah, that's basically what it comes

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Speaker 1: down to. Plus they don't have a couple of late

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Speaker 2: Well, no, the only they only lost the six this

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Speaker 2: six five is next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so they lost a six rounder this year

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Speaker 1: the team, and they took an extra three point two

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Speaker 1: million and cap hit Digs was gonna make eighteen point five.

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Speaker 1: They're off the hook for paying him that. But the

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Speaker 1: thirty one point one or thirty two point one million

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Speaker 1: I think is thirty one point one million was going

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Speaker 1: to be charged the Bills anyway before they paid Digs.

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Speaker 1: So that's a lot of money. And it's hard to

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Speaker 1: imagine getting well, the thirty one point one plus the eighteen.

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Speaker 1: You know, that much value out of Steph Diggs at

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Speaker 1: by us and people around the league, Bills fans that Diggs.

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Speaker 1: You know, when Joe Brady became the offensive coordinator at

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Speaker 1: get into the playoffs and win the division, and Diggs

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Speaker 1: wasn't the same player in the second half of the year. Now,

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Speaker 1: that the Bills can still win games without Steph Diggs

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Speaker 1: on the roster. But as of now, he got a

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Speaker 1: massive hole at wide receiver. One.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're subtracting nineteen hundred receiving yards from Buffalo's receiving

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Speaker 2: you saw where Gabe Davis's role had gone within the

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Speaker 2: So the Davis departure, especially knowing the cap situation the

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Speaker 2: Bills were facing, made complete sense. The digs one is

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Speaker 2: far more palatable for the Bills to get out from

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Speaker 2: under the cap. But we're happy to take your phone

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Speaker 2: calls today. Eight h three zero, five point fifty one

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Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna say this, Diggs is a fantastic

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Speaker 2: gonna tell you right now. Since twenty twenty, no other

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Speaker 2: player in the league has more receptions than his four

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Speaker 2: Devonte Adams in that span since twenty twenty, fourth in

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Speaker 2: and Tyreek Hill have more. There is no debating it

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Speaker 2: is a major void in Buffalo's offense. But I believe

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Speaker 3: It signals to.

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Speaker 2: Me that he already has a play in place as

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Speaker 2: to how to address that void. What that is remains

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Speaker 2: to be seen, But for now, Curtis Samuel assumes the

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Speaker 2: as I see it. But Brandon Bean does not make

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Speaker 1: The thing that upsets I think some Bills fans and

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Speaker 1: has us wondering is the fact that that plan may

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Speaker 1: and James Cook and knocks are enough. We have been,

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Speaker 1: you know, pounding the table along with all the Bills

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Speaker 1: fans about you know, it's an arms race. It's an

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Speaker 1: arms racist and arms racist. It's hard for Bills fans

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Speaker 1: as well, that may well be where it is. And

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Speaker 1: that we don't know what they feel about their own guys.

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Speaker 1: We've said that Curtis Samuel has been has had a

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Speaker 1: very a very productive career with very lackluster quarterbacks. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's part of the ingredient into this that we don't

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Speaker 1: see that they do. But I was I've got the

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Speaker 1: train horn blowing, man. This is it makes the They

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Speaker 1: just the breaks on the wide receiver train are are

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Speaker 1: not working. It is going downhill with your loading coal

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Speaker 1: into the NNGR, full steam ahead. And and we are loaded. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we are the Briton.

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Speaker 3: I'm pulling the horn.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We are the wide receiver trained today. Baby,

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Speaker 1: let's go. But that's where we're at.

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Speaker 3: I think it done with you.

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Speaker 1: Steph Diggs has been polarizing the whole time he's been here,

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Speaker 1: and he's done all this stuff on Twitter, and we're

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Speaker 1: of times unbalanced that he gets. But dude, we all

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Speaker 1: his production. Of course, he wanted the ball in the

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Speaker 2: It was an alpha dog. And that's what they have

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Speaker 2: to replace in this out. That's hard to do and

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Speaker 2: it's hard to replace.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Fortunately, you're in a situation where you have one of

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Speaker 2: the better receiver draft classes in the last ten years.

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Speaker 2: There was a good one a couple of years ago

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Speaker 2: the board in round one. We'll see if that happens again.

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Speaker 2: I think it, But I think it also signals that it's.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm convinced Brandon Bean has a plan

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Speaker 2: in place already. I'm sure he's made overtures to other

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Speaker 2: be has got to be in Brandon Bean's sites at

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Speaker 2: this point. And here's why you don't have the cap

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Speaker 3: People could say T Higgins, oh, you know, Cincinnati wants

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Speaker 2: T Higgins wants his money, money that you can't really

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Speaker 2: hand out right now.

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Speaker 1: T Higgins is throwing is spitting in the face of

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Speaker 1: a franchise tag, which is like eighteen million a year.

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Speaker 1: He didn't want that, so you're not gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 3: And that's twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing too, and what it might be as well.

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Speaker 1: This may signal the depth of the wide receiver field

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft this year, and at the very

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Speaker 1: least the Bills feel like of the guys they've spoken to,

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Speaker 1: and it's got to be and right now, it's got

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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior. You got no shot at those at twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: at twenty eight. Everybody after that maybe, And if that

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Speaker 1: can't be just a d Mitchell. It can't be just

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Speaker 1: Xavier Leget or Lad mcconkee or Keon Coleman or it's

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Speaker 1: got to be like three of those guys, at least two.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be more than one of those guys

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Speaker 1: that they're looking at and going, you know what, that

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Speaker 1: is the guy with I don't care whoever, I don't

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Speaker 1: care about all these other guys. That's the guy that

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Speaker 1: we've had it. That's Xavier Legett is our guy. But

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Speaker 1: if he's not there, we love this guy just as much.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be multiple guys at twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they got to take two. I think

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Speaker 3: in this draft class, you have to come out with.

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Speaker 1: At least absolutely absolutely, Now you do. Now you do

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Speaker 1: at least too and I and yeah, and okay, but

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Speaker 2: I'm that's And is it a risk, Yeah, because you

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Speaker 1: But we sit here and we know the football side

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Speaker 1: That's my point. So if you're gonna make a decision

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Speaker 1: You got to fill that void as best you can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? How how good is Curtis Samuel gonna be? With

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Speaker 3: What's up, Brian?

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Speaker 4: Thanks taking my call? Sure, In my opinion, I think

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Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, the dumbest traded Bill's history at

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Speaker 2: And did not have a one to give them this year.

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Speaker 2: think there's only about three million dollars left in guaranteed

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Speaker 2: got to be some underlining reasons why, and maybe we

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Speaker 2: For all we know, he could be a very expensive

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we don't. That's why this thing smells

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Speaker 1: like there's more to it for the Bills. Like the

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Speaker 1: there's more to it. Maybe there's not, but it does

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Tom in

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Speaker 3: I let me get him up here. What's up, Tom?

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Speaker 5: Well, I just wanted to give you my take on this.

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Speaker 5: the toxic presidence in the locker room. And you know

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Speaker 5: you what I think has been shown. If you jam

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Speaker 5: And that's no accident that his production fell off. So

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Speaker 5: you know, the whole conversation, Oh, you got to get

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Speaker 5: the ball the Digs. You got to get the ball

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Speaker 5: the Digs. Kansas City doesn't sit over here and you know, say, oh,

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Speaker 5: There's a lot I think really, if Diggs had production

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Speaker 5: tell you this. I can I'm in San Antonio, but

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Speaker 5: I can feel the cloud lifting off of one Bill's

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Speaker 5: dry from here, and I think whatever solution they come

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Speaker 5: you guys. What do you guys have to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've never gotten anything but positive stuff out of

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Speaker 1: and maybe there may be something I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's think about this. You felt that they had

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Speaker 2: a locker room capable of handling that, right, they might

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Speaker 2: not anymore. Well, Its Morse isn't there, Jordan Poyer isn't there,

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Speaker 2: Micaeh Hyde isn't there. Those are three stalwart veteran leaders

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Speaker 2: that could walk over to Steph and say, hey, let's

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Speaker 2: it's just cool at all.

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis isn't there, And so yeah, maybe.

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Speaker 2: The dynamics of the locker room changed where there would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can, you can make that argument, sure, but

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Speaker 1: he never he had seven receptions in a game. Once

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Speaker 1: about the offensive coordinator. If that's the case, and the

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator change, and that's changed the fortunes of Steph

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Speaker 1: Digg and Diggs in Buffalo, well so be it. Then

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Speaker 1: it's time to move on. Certainly, other players in the

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Speaker 1: offense did emerge late last year in Kincaid and Khalil

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Speaker 1: would you know, I'm not as sure it's going to

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Speaker 2: Right, But but there is something to say about his

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Speaker 2: those two games. Last year, ten catches for seventy three

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Speaker 2: those are the biggest games. You gotta be Steph Diggs

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too. And you think about it in

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Speaker 1: you know where your perspective is from. Are you coming

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Speaker 1: from a Bills fan perspective and trying to spin it

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Speaker 1: the best way you can, or are you coming from

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Speaker 1: a Bills fan who's always like, yeah, there, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've had it too good for too long. Now now

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Speaker 1: it's going belly up. Yeah, everybody's going to have their

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Speaker 1: own take on it. I got a lot of faith

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Speaker 1: in the guys in this building, and I know this too.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to take a step back.

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Speaker 2: Right, Let's go back to the phones and to Steve

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Speaker 2: and amhers next.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for a.

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Speaker 6: Steve Good afternoon, guys. So obviously this day's started. Obviously

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Speaker 6: we had no clue this was coming. And I feel

435
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Speaker 6: like a Bills fan that's sitting in a padded room

436
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Speaker 6: with a straight jacket on, just saying trust the process

437
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Speaker 6: over and over again. But I also feel like like

438
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Speaker 6: like Brandon being obviously he's done some great things with

439
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Speaker 6: us here and we don't know all the behind the

440
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Speaker 6: scenes stuff.

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Speaker 7: Like you've been saying. So I feel like that's again

442
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Speaker 7: this trust the process, See how this plays out, see

443
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Speaker 7: what else is up his sleeve. But the other thing

444
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Speaker 7: that I wanted to tell you, guys that might make

445
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 7: you laugh or just feel bad for me, I have

446
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 7: a man cave in the basement with eight signed jerseys.

447
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 7: Four of them are Poyer hide white and digs, So

448
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 7: that one hurt a little bit seeing this one go

449
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 7: after the you know, the day where we lost those

450
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Speaker 7: three guys and then now Digs. I won't tell you

451
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 7: the other four jerseys because I don't want you to

452
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Speaker 7: think that I'm gonna jinx them if they get let go,

453
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Speaker 7: but I will say this though, like I'm starting to realize, like, hey,

454
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Speaker 7: maybe I'll just get players who retired as bills and

455
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Speaker 7: get those And I did just win at you know,

456
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Speaker 7: kudos to you, Steve. I just want to sign Steve

457
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Speaker 7: Tasker jersey on a on an auction site, so that

458
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 7: might be going up in place in one of those

459
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 7: jerseys that's leaving. So so you guys, thank you for everything,

460
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Speaker 7: have a great rest of your day and enjoy all

461
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Speaker 7: the rest of the phone calls coming right.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, babe. Yeah, it's it's we understand.

463
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be difficult to accept this without knowing what

464
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: the other shoe is that's going to drop, but I

465
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Speaker 2: remain resolute in it. I mean, Bean does not make

466
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Speaker 2: a move like this unless he has wheels turning.

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Speaker 1: Move and listen if it happens and we do come

468
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Speaker 1: out of the draft with somebody and they trade up

469
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Speaker 1: and get it, got one of these guys, and we're

470
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Speaker 1: all like, see, we're all like see, I told you, Brandon, Bean,

471
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Speaker 1: you know I feel that way until sure, sure, but

472
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Speaker 1: these are the moments when you know that give us

473
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Speaker 1: pause about Okay, we smell another move coming. He's done

474
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: it time and time again to us. That doesn't mean

475
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Speaker 1: it's gonna happen this time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you still need another team to I got

477
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Speaker 3: a lot of.

478
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Speaker 1: I got a lot of faith in this team, even

479
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Speaker 1: even in this current state without Steph, without Gabe, I

480
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: just got a lot of faith in it. So I'm I'm,

481
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Speaker 1: I'm I can't wait. We'll see, We'll see what happens,

482
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Speaker 1: and this draft is going to be awesome. It's going

483
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Speaker 1: to be much more interesting. I think as we get closer.

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Speaker 3: To it, Let's go to Jake and Buffalo next. What's up, Jake, Hey,

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Speaker 3: how's it going?

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Speaker 2: Guys?

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Speaker 8: I just wanted you guys to help me do the

488
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Speaker 8: numbers on this. So it kind of I'm a little

489
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Speaker 8: concerned that there isn't something going in motion or beans

490
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Speaker 8: a little off because say we didn't sign Curtis Samuel

491
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Speaker 8: and he had an idea that he was going to

492
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Speaker 8: still trade stuff on Diggs. Wouldn't that give us more

493
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Speaker 8: cap space to go off, go after a guy like

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Speaker 8: you know, Key Higgins or someone a little more. You know,

495
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Speaker 8: a number one Bible. So thank you guys, have a

496
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Speaker 8: great day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a little bit. It would you'd give

498
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Speaker 1: you them. It would give you Curtis Samuel's money to

499
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Speaker 1: throw at T.

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Speaker 3: T Higgins trade, which is a salary that averages about

501
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: eight million a year. But you'd be paying a lot

502
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Speaker 3: more for.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati's not paying Steph Diggs T Higgins, I mean Steph

504
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Speaker 1: Diggs money, since they wouldn't or they'd give it to T.

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Speaker 2: Higgins right Well, they're planning to give it to Jamar

506
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Speaker 2: Chase next year. That's why they're not going to give

507
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Speaker 2: it to T Higgins this year because they can't have

508
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Speaker 2: two guys making that kind of money.

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Speaker 3: I don't think any team really can.

510
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Speaker 2: So you're gonna pay one guy thirty million a year,

511
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: you can't pay another guy twenty four at the same position.

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Speaker 2: It's just not feasible in today's current cap structure. I

513
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: mean you could, but you're gonna crypto cripple yourself somewhere

514
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Speaker 2: else on the roster.

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Speaker 1: YEA, your defense will suffer, your offensive line will suffer.

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Speaker 3: One of those things. Eight oh three oh five fifty

517
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Speaker 3: the number to get on board.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to let us know how you're feeling about

519
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Speaker 2: the report that Stefan Diggs will be traded by the

520
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: Bills to the Houston Texans. We go to Elliott in

521
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: East Rochester. Lay it honest, Elliott, what do you got.

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. We got to

523
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 9: go back to how we got the fon Digs in

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Speaker 9: the first place.

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Speaker 10: And now that was the first round pick that we

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00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 10: traded the Minnesota which ultimately became Justin Jefferson. Even if

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00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 10: we had him, we'd still be in the crazy salary

528
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 10: cap position that we are now.

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Speaker 9: But just yesterday, I had finally talked myself out of

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Speaker 9: going wide receiver round one with the weapons, brought in

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Speaker 9: Mac Collins to replace Gabe Davis and then adding Curtis Samuel,

532
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Speaker 9: who's probably gonna have his best season yet because he

533
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 9: didn't have the best opportunities in Washington and Carolina. And Steve,

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Speaker 9: I know you had said we could probably rule out

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00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 9: Harrison Neighbors and know doonsday, But I'm just wondering if

536
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 9: Od's there at nine. I mean, the Bears have two

537
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 9: top ten pits. They might be willing to trade back

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00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 9: and get some more capital, and like you said, you

539
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 9: just waiting for the other shoe to drop. Randon Bean

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00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 9: probably wouldn't make a hasty move like this without a

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00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 9: surefire backup plan so that all that stuff remains to

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00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 9: be seen. So I was curious on your thoughts on

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00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 9: that one. And if I could, I've got to thank

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00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 9: Don Vittie for coming on my podcast and he's got

545
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 9: a new book out there, so be sure to check

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00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 9: it out. A great guy. And he said, you're quite

547
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 9: the golfer by the way, Steve.

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00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 11: But thank you, guys. It's all I got.

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00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure thing, Elliott. Yeah, I would say that.

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00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 2: A move up the board is a lot more likely

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00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: than it was just a couple of days ago, just

552
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 2: because of what Buffalo has to replace on the roster.

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00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: You have to replace an alpha male number one wide

554
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: receiver on this roster. You don't have the financial wherewithal

555
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: to do it in the free agent market. Not to

556
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: mention that the free agent market is pretty picked over

557
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: at this point in time, and the draft remains the

558
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: most viable option here unless you want to execute some

559
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: kind of trade that your cap space can stomach, or

560
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: you move players out and salary out to move a

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00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: player in, and right now, with just sixty two players

562
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: signed on the roster, I don't foresee that happening either,

563
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: So I think it becomes an exercise in Brandon Bean

564
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: pushing all his chips into the draft pool and trying

565
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: to make a splash there. However, he believes he has

566
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: to accomplish that, And maybe that's a situation where you

567
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: move a player to move up the board knowing that

568
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: the vast majority of your draft picks this year are

569
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: on Day three. You got two fives, two six's, and

570
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: a seven along with a couple of fours, So all

571
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: of the vast majority of your draft capitals on day three,

572
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't give you a lot to work with. You

573
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: may have to include a player in some kind of

574
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: trade if you want to move up into the top ten.

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00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: Right.

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00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: If that's the case, you do risk a Sammy Watkins thing,

577
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, where you trade up and get this guy

578
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: number three overall, And the difference between the Sammy Watkins

579
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: trade would be you're trading You're trading the pick not

580
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: for Sammy Watkins, but for whoever it is, Roma Dunze

581
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: or Malik Neighbors or Marvin Harrison Junr. You're trading it

582
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: for one of those jokers. And when you traded for

583
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, you didn't have Josh Allen. No, you had

584
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: Kyle or Yeah. So it's a big difference there. And

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00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: the thing about it, if that's gonna happen, Listen, it's

586
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: gonna be big. It's gonna be really big because you're

587
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to give up a ton, two tons of

588
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 1: draft capital to get far enough up to get one

589
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: of those three jokers. Two tons. You're talking like, yeah,

590
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about multiple high round draft picks. Wonder if

591
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: in multiple years.

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00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: I wonder if you take your pick at twenty eight

593
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: and the two you just got from Houston package that

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00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: together to get up there, I think't gonna be an

595
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: well I mean no, not enough to get up to

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00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: the top ten.

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00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: But you'd have to do twenty eight, the two this year,

598
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: the two next year, and maybe you're one next year.

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00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: You're not doing all that first, Yeah, that's right.

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00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about think about it. There are teams

601
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: out there trading three ones for quarterback. You know, it's

602
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: a big transaction and you're throwing a lot of draft

603
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: picks at it and you can't miss. You can't miss,

604
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: so that you it's just a ton I just don't

605
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: see it happening getting up inside the top ten.

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00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 12: It.

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00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: It's gonna take a lot of moving. You're gonna be

608
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: moving a lot of stuff.

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00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: You might you can throw some players at it too,

610
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: and that's different because those other teams will value the

611
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: players you have a lot differently. But man, oh man,

612
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: that's expensive.

613
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 11: It is.

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00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but we're back with more

615
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: of your phone calls when we return. Also, we'll have

616
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: senior producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosell, joining us for

617
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: our number two. He had some pretty pointed opinions on

618
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs and his current ability level in the league,

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00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: mentioned it to us when we had him on the combine.

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00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: We'll check in with him in our number two on

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00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: that subject, and maybe it's time for some prospects as well.

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Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live presented by Colia Health, it's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All Right, welcome back to a Wednesday

624
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: edition of One Bills Live and the reported trade of

625
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs to the Houston Texans, largely in exchange for

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00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty five second round pick. Bills are sending

627
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: a sixth this year and a fifth next year to

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00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: Houston in the deal as well. Your thoughts on it

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00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: are welcome in eighth three zero five to fifty one

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00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: eight eight eight five, fifty two five fifty to Jack

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Speaker 2: and amher next.

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00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: What's up, Jack?

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00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 9: So, with the loss of such an essential offensive player

634
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 9: like Diggs, do you think that rules out like a

635
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 9: defensive player in the draft this year?

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00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 11: This year?

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00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: Not probably at twenty eight at this today, it does

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00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, I think you go. I think in fact,

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00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: we're all talking about the fact that they're not going

640
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: to stay at twenty eight. Probably move up to take

641
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. It becomes almost urgent again.

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00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: And only your hand is played now right, everybody knows

643
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: with you moving digs out. A player of that caliber

644
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: had one hundred receptions last year. You've got to fill

645
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: that void somehow, and you don't have the cap space

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00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: to do it with a free agent.

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00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: The only out to that is if Bean and McDermott

648
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: and Joe Brady are sitting in their offices right now

649
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: together and they're saying, these people are crazy because we

650
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: got the guys, we want Curtis, Samuel Khalil, Kincaid Cook.

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00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: We're ready to go. Forget those we didn't need. We're going.

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00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: So unless they're having that conversation right now, it looks

653
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: to me like they've got a positional emergency. And that's

654
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: one thing Brandon Bean doesn't want to go into the

655
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: draft with unless he's got a plan to fix it,

656
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: a full proof plan. So yes, today, with what we know,

657
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: there ain't no way they picking anything but a whide

658
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: out at twenty eight. Yeah.

659
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like, but I don't have your cards

660
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 3: and you put him on the table.

661
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know we're a couple of weeks away,

662
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: so you know we're gonna sit here.

663
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: Things can change between now and for sure, but right now,

664
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: that's what it looks like.

665
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: We are watching the pot boil, and that's what it's like.

666
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: It's never gonna boil while we're watching it, but we

667
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: can't take our eyes off it.

668
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: To Betsy out in Los Angeles, what's up, Betsy, Hi, guys, I'm.

669
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 13: Excited about this. I think I agree with what you

670
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 13: said that it seems like Bean is one step ahead

671
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 13: and he's already thinking about something bigger. But my question

672
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 13: was when a deal like this happens, who has input

673
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 13: on it? Like how far down the coaching staff does

674
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 13: Josh Allen go about it ahead of time? Does he

675
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 13: haven't put or does he find out like everybody else?

676
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: There's uh, there's a chance that they had a conversation

677
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: with Josh, but he had to be mum about it.

678
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure I would. I would probably venture to say

679
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 1: in the culture that they have right now that Steph

680
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: Diggs had wind of it or his agent, and his

681
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: agent did as well. They're not going to do this

682
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: in a vacuum. And every and I'll say this, everybody

683
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: who touches base with the wide receivers in any way,

684
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: shape or form, had a voice, even if it was

685
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: a small one. The coordinator did, the head coach obviously did,

686
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: Josh was Josh was notified of it, the wide receivers coach,

687
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: and certainly Brandon Bean listened to all those guys, and

688
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: Terry Pegoula was probably notified of it as well. Uh

689
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: So all of that, all those people would have had

690
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: input because that you know, that's how you run it.

691
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: They all have an opinion and they all know things

692
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: and and have a you know, the more perspectives you

693
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: have on the wiser decision you can make. So those

694
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: people were all in on it, plus all the you know,

695
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: the pro scouts and all of that stuff. So yeah,

696
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: this was not done. This wasn't Brandon Bean in a

697
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: closet not telling anybody what he was doing. And this

698
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: has been this is probably something that has happened over

699
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: the last what ten days, brownie something like that. It's

700
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: been a minute going on thinking about it, digesting it,

701
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: talking to all those people here in Buffalo, and then

702
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: the Texans got to talk about it all their people too,

703
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: So yes, this is it's a big deal. You're talking

704
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: about a thirty million dollar decision for the Bills and

705
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: an eighteen point five million dollar decision for the Texans

706
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: and draft picks. So yeah, there's a lot of voices

707
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: in the room and a lot of ears that need

708
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: to be heard, a lot of ears that need to

709
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: hear about it before it happens.

710
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: Let's go to Mark in Jersey City next. What's up Mark?

711
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 14: Come good afternoon, gentlemen. Will Steve you said that there

712
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 14: was a hurting for targets. Where are they going to

713
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 14: get the ball to?

714
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 7: Well, that was just yes, right.

715
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 14: They four of the receivers that made the fifty three

716
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 14: are gone. Yeah, party Sherfield, Diggs, Davis. This did not

717
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 14: happen in a vacuum. There are several things that have

718
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 14: been leading up to this. I mean, taking passive, aggressive

719
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 14: shots at the franchise quarterback. I think maybe we're the

720
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 14: tip of the iceberg. At no point can you not

721
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 14: get on the phone with your brother and be like, dude,

722
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 14: take that down last year and he was just like,

723
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 14: well that's my brother's Twitter like, nah, that that doesn't

724
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 14: wash either. I think their ascension coincided, Allen's and Diggs.

725
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 14: I think it was a great run while it lasted,

726
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 14: But I think the mercurial nature, capricious, whatever you want

727
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 14: to label it as, became a little bit too untenable.

728
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 14: And like you alluded to, Chris, all those captains are gone.

729
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 14: They're gone. Though anybody that could could could rain him

730
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 14: in maybe a little bit. It just became more about

731
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 14: the fashion and the trips to Italy and the outlandish

732
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 14: outfits than him. You know, you have the jerious snead

733
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 14: or I don't know if it was him or one

734
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 14: of his teammates saying yeah, we just let him out.

735
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 14: He just locked him down and we didn't even worry

736
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 14: about him. And the stats bore that out. And the

737
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 14: kind of player that they said that they wanted with

738
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 14: explosiveness and and and just versatility, like you almost say

739
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 14: all the times he'd be a positionless Yeah, that's what

740
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 14: they're looking for now, you they're just they have King

741
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 14: Kaid and Shakir carried the passing game the second half

742
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 14: of the year, along with some of Cook's running and

743
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 14: Alan getting back to running around himself, and Diggs kind

744
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 14: of be not an afterthought, but he just became like

745
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 14: a third or fourth option. This is the year to

746
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 14: do it. Green Bay gave a lot of people a blueprint.

747
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 14: They went They almost went to the NFC Championship game.

748
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 14: Was that that was that the NFC Championship No, they

749
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 14: almost went to the NFC Championship game with largely what

750
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 14: second and rookie rookie wide receivers.

751
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: Wide receivers and tight ends.

752
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, so they're therey have it. Everybody wants to just

753
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 14: I think they got a good haul. What did Keenan

754
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 14: Allen fetch a force?

755
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah for Keenan Allen and and Houston was trying to

756
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: trade for Keenan Allen about a month ago and couldn't

757
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: pull it off, and obviously it goes to Chicago instead.

758
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you're right, it is. It is that kind

759
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: of world right now, and you gotta you gotta be

760
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: ready to make the most of it when you get

761
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: your chance. Certainly, the bills are gonna take a thirty

762
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: two million dollars thirty one point or thirty two point

763
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: one million dollar cap hit thirty one point one. I'm sorry,

764
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: thirty one point one million dollars in cap space is

765
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: still going to go to Steph Diggs this year on

766
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: the bills. That doesn't mean that they're gonna that money.

767
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: That money's already out. It's not extra money. It's just

768
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: money that's already been paid that they got to account for.

769
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 11: Now.

770
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you this, and it's been reported

771
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: now by guys around the league, and I'm looking at it,

772
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: you know. Ryan o'hallerhan Ryan O'Halloran has reported that he's

773
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: talked to some assistant coaches around the league about Diggs,

774
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: and one of guys he's quoted as saying, I'm not

775
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: sure whether to be happy or upset about the Digs

776
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: trade that he's talking about, the Diggs trade in Buffalo.

777
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: He's had some really strong games against us, but he's

778
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: not a deep threat anymore. So there's you know, yeah,

779
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: Diggs is that guy, but he's not that guy that

780
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: he was. And teams are starting to say, all right,

781
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: well they're kind of get a handle on him, at

782
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: least that's the thought, but they know he's going to

783
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: get a ton of targets. Well, the Bills aren't going

784
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: to stop throwing it just because he's not there, So

785
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: those targets are going to somebody. And I think that's

786
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: that's really the question that we're asking here today. What

787
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: happens to those targets and which draft pick or which

788
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: guy's gonna fill that void, that roster spot I've always had.

789
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: I've got high hopes for Curtis Samuel, no question about it.

790
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: But well, he's a definition of explosive. He runs a

791
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: four to three to one forty and he gets behind defenses.

792
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: With regular area, no question about it. But this is

793
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: a big ask, No it is.

794
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: It unquestionably is big as But to Mark's point, and quickly, uh,

795
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: I look this up because after Joe Brady took over

796
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: play calling duties on offense.

797
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: In week eleven.

798
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: He coached the last nine games, seven regular season, two

799
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: playoff games.

800
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: In seven of the.

801
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: Nine games, Dalton Kinkaid, Khalil Shakir or James Cook were

802
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: one of the top two in target share in seven

803
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: of those nine games, and in seven of those nine games,

804
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: not all the same ones as the first example, two

805
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 2: of those guys were in the top three in target share.

806
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: A change had already begun to take place. Now, look,

807
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: Diggs was often the number one target still, but the

808
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: point I'm making is you saw the target get share

809
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: within the scope of the offense morphine change in the

810
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: second half of the season under Joe Brady, it was

811
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: far more democratic Italy. For lack of a better term,

812
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis was essentially eliminated, with the exception of one

813
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: game over that stretch, that being the Philly game where

814
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: he led the team with twelve targets. After that you

815
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 2: didn't see him again. I didn't see him again because

816
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: it was about Kincaid, the emergence of Shakir, and then

817
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: Diggs was still your number one. And that's the fly

818
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: in the ointment here. You have a number one role

819
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: that you have to replace. Whether the Bills feel they

820
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: can do it with people on the roster like of Samuel,

821
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: that remains to be seen. Gotta take a break more

822
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: of your phone calls. When we're back, we'll lead off

823
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: with Andrew and DC next year on One Bill's Live.

824
00:42:42,719 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: Stay tuned all right back here on One Bill's.

825
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: Live, and right back to the phones we go after

826
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: the reported trade of Stefan Diggs to the Houston Texas

827
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: team is not confirmed it yet. We'll see if and

828
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: when that comes down the pike here in the not

829
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: too distant future.

830
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: To Andrew in DC. In the meantime, what's up Andrew, Hey.

831
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 12: Christen, Steve, hope you're doing well. Thanks so much for

832
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 12: having me on. I want to say that I don't

833
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 12: hate the trade. It makes me nervous, but I don't

834
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 12: hate it. And I wanted to ask you if either

835
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 12: of you thought that this might be a hedge against

836
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 12: Diggs maybe having a less than stellar season in the

837
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 12: twenty twenty four season, maybe worried that they won't be

838
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 12: able to get the same value for him, or they're

839
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 12: word the note team wants to pay him his salary

840
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 12: if they see, you know, another season him performing not

841
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 12: as highly as he once did, because, like you, I

842
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 12: saw this trade maybe happening next offseason, So I'm somewhat

843
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 12: surprised to see at this early. So I'm wondering if

844
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 12: Eiterview you think this is because maybe there's a real

845
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 12: fear from being and guys like that it Digs is

846
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 12: just not going to perform and they won't be able

847
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 12: to get rid of in the next offseason.

848
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting take, Andrew, I think this. I

849
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: think next year at this time he would likely be

850
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 2: a release. I don't think he would necessarily be a

851
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: trade guy. I mean, I suppose you could convince some

852
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: team to maybe part with compensation in the form of

853
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: a trade next year, but his contract was obvious next

854
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: year as.

855
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: An out in the deal.

856
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: And if teams know that, they're less likely to give

857
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: you trade compensation of any kind because they know you've

858
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: got to release him anyway. So maybe may and I'm

859
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: just guessing here, but maybe Brandon Bean when he's getting

860
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: phone calls, because we know for a fact Houston tried

861
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: to acquire Keenan Allen, and that was a team that

862
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: had to throw some veteran players overboard because they were

863
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 2: way over the cap. Mike Williams, you know, gets released there,

864
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen gets moved. So Houston calls the Chargers and says, hey,

865
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: can we get Keenan Allen for a four? And they're like, no,

866
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: you're out of your mind, that's not happening, or whatever

867
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: they offered. He ends up going to Chicago for a four.

868
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: Obviously Houston didn't offer more than that. And so Houston,

869
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: after swinging and missing on Keenan Allen, maybe they're calling

870
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean for the better part of the last ten

871
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: days saying hey, let's do a deal.

872
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 3: Let's do a deal.

873
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: And Brandon might be reluctant at first, saying, look, I

874
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: can't add take away cap space if I'm giving up

875
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: a player of this caliber, and you're gonna have to

876
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: sweeten the pot if you want to do that, Well,

877
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: we can't give you a two this year, but we'll

878
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: give you one next year.

879
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: And it got to a point where it was.

880
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: Palatable and it was convincing enough to have Brandon take

881
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: away a little over three million in cap space this

882
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: year to get a second.

883
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 3: Round pick next year.

884
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

885
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: I'm just guessing, but maybe that's how it came down.

886
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: It does smack a little bit of a year too

887
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: soon rather than a year too late. Yeah, and that's

888
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: I think something the Bills are probably willing to do.

889
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: With a guy like Josh Allen and you know, Shakir

890
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: and Samuels and Kincaid and Cook in the in the fold,

891
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: with an offensive line that's really pretty much set in

892
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: stone as well, they've got to feel good about their

893
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: ability to go out and be productive offensively with or

894
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: without Diggs. Certainly he's a good player and they're going

895
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: to miss him, but with more opportunities somewhere else, and

896
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: with a guy like Curtis Samuel coming in with an

897
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: upside being a lot younger and having a quarterback now

898
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: that is elite rather than just a guy, you got

899
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: to have higher hopes for that. So I think there's

900
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: no question this is a little bit of a hedge

901
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: over next getting something for Steph when they're actually if

902
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: they wait another year, all they're gonna get his production

903
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: this year and that's it. The cap is going to

904
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: be is virtually the same three point two million. I

905
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: know it's not cheap change, but in a two hundred

906
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: and fifty five million dollar cap, it kind of is

907
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: go without him, fill in the void and still try

908
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: and win games, win next and get a second rounder

909
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: out of him rather than having to release him outright.

910
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a good way to

911
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: look at it. Get get something for him now, even

912
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: though he's still got a little juice left in him.

913
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: Then wait next year when you you'll get nothing for

914
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: him if he's got juice or not.

915
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 3: Let's go to Bob in Colorado. What's up Bob?

916
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, I appreciate you taking my call. I want

917
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 15: to start by saying, I cut my teeth in radio

918
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 15: in Buffalo there when Steve was playing. I worked for

919
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 15: the Flagship. I've had a forty year career, and I

920
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 15: want to just tell you, guys, you do an outstanding

921
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 15: job and it's rare on a day when I would

922
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 15: miss a show. So congratulations on the great job that

923
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 15: you appreciated. I really appreciate it. I also want to

924
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 15: say that today I had a big smile on my face.

925
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 15: This news made my day. To me, this is a

926
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 15: man who never really fit that Bill's DNA profile, and

927
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 15: I don't mind that they made this move. And I'm

928
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 15: also not surprised by it. Certainly Josh Atlin signed off

929
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 15: on it. I think Josh is a very classy player

930
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 15: who wouldn't say anything bad about another teammate. But I

931
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 15: have to wonder if he's not smiling a little bit today.

932
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 15: And finally, the point I want to make is take

933
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 15: a look at the team that won the Super Bowl

934
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 15: last year. The Kansas City Chiefs did not have a

935
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 15: legitimate number one wide receiver. They had an aging, albeit

936
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 15: good fight end. And if you look at where the

937
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 15: Chiefs were and what they did with what they had,

938
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 15: and you look at where the Bills are with their

939
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 15: receiving corps today and where they will be after they

940
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 15: draft a receiver in the first round, I'm not at

941
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 15: all concerned about where we are, and I think they're

942
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 15: in pretty good shape. When you compare them to the

943
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 15: Chiefs last season, what are your thoughts?

944
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting parallel that you draw, Bob,

945
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: because you know, the Tyreek Hill come to the Chiefs

946
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: and says I want thirty million a year, and they say, yeah,

947
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: not gonna happen here, We're gonna move you, and they

948
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: trade him for draft capital with the Dolphins, who probably

949
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: over well, I don't know, if they overpay for Tyreek Hill,

950
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: He's been extraordinarily productive for them. But they got a

951
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: hall for him because he was only twenty seven at

952
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: the time, so he's still in his prime and that's

953
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: why they got more compensation for him. But all they

954
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: did the next year was going to win the Super

955
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: Bowl and then they wanted again. So yeah, I think

956
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: there's something to be said for that. I don't know

957
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: if it's I think it is easier said than done,

958
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: but I understand the parallel.

959
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the Bills have never been to where the

960
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: Chiefs have been, and that's you know, the Chiefs are

961
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: and the Bills are chasing them, and certainly, you know,

962
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: you never play in a vacuum. The Chiefs are in

963
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: a tough league just like the Bills are. The Bills

964
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: are still chasing those guys, and I don't know, I

965
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: think it might be a stretch to say Bills are

966
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: like a year behind them in their development. But I

967
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people out there that will,

968
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of brush the Bills off, you know,

969
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: And I'm part and I'm on my generation of guys

970
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: are part of that is who never been able to

971
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: win the darn thing. So people kind of it's easy

972
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 1: for them to brush us off as a franchise, saying,

973
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, they've never done or they don't know what

974
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: it's like and they don't know how to do it.

975
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: So to say that, you know, we're following along in

976
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: the Chiefs footsteps, it's one thing the Bills have got

977
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: to get there. I don't know that copying the Chiefs

978
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: is necessarily the way to do it, because you got

979
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: to you gotta go with your players and play to

980
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: their strengths, not the chief strengths. Yeah, and I and

981
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: I get it, you're right. I think you got to

982
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: tip your hat to the Chiefs for doing it without

983
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Tyreek Hill, and tip your hat to them.

984
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: I still think the Bills are going to be a really,

985
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: really good football team. And I think there's a lot

986
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: of people around the country who are ready brush the

987
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: Bills off no matter what, because they're tired of seeing

988
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: the Bills be just as good as they are. They're

989
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: that good, they're really good. They win the division, but

990
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: they can't do anything else. I think that's where a

991
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: lot of this rhetoric comes from. Kind of that perspective,

992
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: and if I'm a Bills fan. I don't care. This

993
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: is a team that's going to have a swing at

994
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: it again this year, with or without Steph Diggs. That's

995
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: where I sit.

996
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here.

997
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: Hour number two, though, will begin with senior producer from

998
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: NFL Films, Great Cosel, who, when we spoke to him

999
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: at the NFL Combine back in early March, had some

1000
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 2: pointed comments about where he felt Stefan Diggs was at

1001
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: this point in his NFL career.

1002
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: We'll check in with him next. Here on One Bill's Live,

1003
00:51:41,520 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: presented by coll Lout of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio, The.

1004
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

1005
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 2: All Right, Hour number two Here on One Bills Live,

1006
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on a pretty seismic

1007
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: day in terms of roster turnover. It's been pretty significant

1008
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 2: through the course of the off season as the Bills

1009
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: have a bit ado to several veterans on their roster,

1010
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: many in large parts being cap casualties to save money

1011
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: on the cap as they were strained up against the cap.

1012
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: This one takes on a little bit of a different tenor.

1013
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 2: Knowing that the Bills had to take up on more

1014
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: cap responsibility by trading Stefan Diggs, and the terms of

1015
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: this trade now official from the Bills. They have agreed

1016
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: the terms on this trade of Stefan Diggs of the

1017
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: Houston Texans, and to talk about it with us.

1018
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: Our good friend.

1019
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: Senior producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosell joining us on

1020
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: the line.

1021
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 3: And we were gonna talk draft Greg, but look at

1022
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: what happened here.

1023
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: We've got a much different set of circumstances to talk about.

1024
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: But I guess at first, blush Greg. To see a

1025
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: team like the Bills, who were cap strained make this

1026
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: move and take on an additional three million in cap responsibility,

1027
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: what does it say to you?

1028
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 16: Well, a couple of things. Number One, it tells you

1029
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 16: that they were anxious to make the trade and get

1030
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 16: rid of Stefan Diggs. I'm not in the building. I

1031
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 16: can't speak to the why. And number two, it also

1032
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 16: tells you that it was not a big market for him,

1033
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 16: because obviously this trade didn't just come about in five minutes.

1034
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 16: I'm sure there have been numerous conversations over probably a

1035
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 16: meaningful amount of time, and there was just not a

1036
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 16: big market. Now again, I hope fans are interested in

1037
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 16: tape reality versus emotion, because the tape reality tells you

1038
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 16: that Stefan Diggs is not a number one receiver in

1039
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 16: the league. He might have been on the bills, but

1040
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 16: he's not a number one receiver the way we think

1041
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 16: about number one receivers the guys who really are. And

1042
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 16: he's thirty years old, so you're talking about a thirty

1043
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 16: year old declining player who's not in number one. That's

1044
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 16: essentially what the tape tells you that Stefan Diggs is. Now,

1045
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 16: I'm sure there's a lot of raw emotion right now

1046
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 16: for Buffalo fans because it just happened. But that's the

1047
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 16: reality of the tape.

1048
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: Well, let's dig into that a little bit more, greg So,

1049
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: what do you see on tape that shows you a

1050
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 2: quote unquote declining player from at least being an alpha

1051
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: male number one on a roster.

1052
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 16: I don't think he's a fully dimensional receiver at this

1053
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 16: point in his career. He's not a true vertical dimension. Now,

1054
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 16: that doesn't mean you can never catch a vertical ball.

1055
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 16: I want people to understand that. You know, there's a

1056
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 16: lot of guys in the league who you wouldn't call

1057
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 16: vertical receivers who do catch you know, go balls or posts.

1058
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 16: But he's not a fully dimensional receiver at this point

1059
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 16: in his career. He's he's much more of a, for

1060
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 16: want of a better term, a possession type receiver at

1061
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 16: this point in his career. Now, he's still very very

1062
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 16: good at that. That's his game and I think that's

1063
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 16: ultimately what he is. And you know, you have to

1064
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 16: remember he's going to a team where he's not going

1065
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 16: to be the number one receiver, so you know, he

1066
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 16: helps that team a lot because they have Nico Collins,

1067
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 16: who is a true boundary X number one receiver, and

1068
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 16: on the Bills, Stefan Diggs, just by dint of elimination,

1069
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 16: was their number one. But I think they're looking to

1070
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 16: ideally get a true number one.

1071
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: Now.

1072
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 16: We'll see what happens in the draft, and we'll see

1073
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 16: if they have something in mind with the trade or

1074
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 16: whatever they feel. We won't know the answer to that, certainly,

1075
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 16: not in the next twenty four or forty eight hours.

1076
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 16: But I think they just felt that he's thirty years old,

1077
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 16: he's declining, and you know, let's move on's it's time

1078
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 16: to move on from Diggs.

1079
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: One of the things we've discussed as well is with

1080
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: a guy likes Diggs, he's certainly not going to fall

1081
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: off a cliff. I mean, his production and his targets

1082
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: were there even when he wasn't being as productive in

1083
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: the second half of last year as he was in

1084
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: the first half. But this deal, like you said, there's

1085
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: a couple of things about it. One, it smacks of

1086
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: letting Digs move on a year earlier than rather than

1087
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: a year late. Yes, And two the month the financial

1088
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: stuff is also notwithstanding the money's already been paid to Digs,

1089
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: that's all that's on the cap. It's not like they're

1090
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: going to throw any more money to him, and it

1091
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: would be hard for him to live up to the

1092
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: contract that he was already had already signed.

1093
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 16: Yeah, and he's probably at this point in his career.

1094
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 16: I think he'll be thirty one during the season. It'd

1095
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 16: be unlikely that he's going to get another big money

1096
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 16: deal at this point in his career. I mean, you

1097
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 16: know the look, we know that Houston is a team

1098
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 16: that probably is going to have a good passing game,

1099
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 16: So I don't know if he's probably not going to

1100
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 16: get the same volume of targets he got with the Bills,

1101
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 16: although that declined clearly as the season progressed. But so

1102
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 16: he's not going to put up the same kinds of numbers,

1103
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 16: and I don't think that the league would see him

1104
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 16: clearly they don't, or we saw what the trade was.

1105
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 16: The league clearly doesn't see him that way. He's not

1106
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 16: going to get another big number deal.

1107
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 3: So Greg, let's look at the draft. We've talked to

1108
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 3: you about this already.

1109
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: I know we did at the combine last month about

1110
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: how it is a deep receiver class. A lot of

1111
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 2: people point, you know, to the top three in the class,

1112
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: namely a Dunze, Harrison and Neighbors as true alpha dog

1113
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: number one wide receivers right out of the shoot. Would

1114
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: you put any other receivers in this class in that

1115
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: category if not instantaneously in their rookie year in the NFL,

1116
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: players who could mature into that kind of role in

1117
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: this class, I think.

1118
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 16: To me, there's two others. But I think your points

1119
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 16: really well taken, because if they were to get either one,

1120
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 16: I don't want fans to think that those guys are

1121
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 16: automatically you know, justin Jefferson, you know, but I think

1122
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 16: that the the other LSU receiver, Brian Thomas, could become

1123
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 16: that guy. And I think the other Texas receiver, ad

1124
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 16: Mitchell could become that guy as well. But my guess

1125
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 16: is I think Thomas might be a little more advanced

1126
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 16: right now than Mitchell. I really liked Mitchell's tape, but

1127
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 16: I think there there are some concerns, but Thomas would

1128
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 16: probably be just slightly ahead of him and the ability

1129
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 16: maybe to make the transition quicker.

1130
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 8: Uh.

1131
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 16: But I think either one of those guys have the

1132
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 16: traits the skill set. They're big, they can run, they

1133
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 16: both can work the middle of the field, they're vertical dimensions.

1134
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 16: I think both those guys have multi dimensional skill sets,

1135
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 16: all right.

1136
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: So that and that's what we thought about too, because

1137
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: when you talk about the digs trade, this whole thing

1138
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: smacks of finger quotes. Another shoes gonna drop. I mean,

1139
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: there's another step in this because at twenty eight it

1140
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: has to right yeah, yeah, So.

1141
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 16: You're right, Steve, And that's why people, you know, you

1142
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 16: have to be careful now about you know, Look, fans,

1143
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 16: I understand it.

1144
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 15: You know.

1145
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 16: I grew up a fan and I remember going to

1146
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 16: games and my team loss and i'd cry, you know,

1147
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 16: I mean, fans are fans, you know, that's the way

1148
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 16: it works. But you know, there's all a lot more

1149
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 16: to happen with this, and we'll have to wait and see.

1150
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 16: I'm sure a lot of people are wondering, why, well,

1151
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 16: why didn't they get more for Diggs? Well, you're trying

1152
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 16: to get as much as you can, but the league

1153
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 16: tells you what he's worth. You know, that's Steve. You

1154
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 16: know that around you guys know that the league tells

1155
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 16: you what guys are worth. They didn't go into this

1156
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 16: deal saying, oh, let's let's not get a lot. You know,

1157
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 16: they're trying to get as much as they can, but

1158
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,479
Speaker 16: the league informs you of what a player is worth.

1159
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 16: So let's see what's gonna happen, you know, in a

1160
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 16: sense signing Curtis Samuel in some ways, they just signed

1161
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 16: Stefan Diggs. He's the same player. So they replace Digs

1162
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 16: with Samuel, a younger player hopefully can stay healthy, probably

1163
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 16: a little more explosive than Digs right now, so now

1164
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 16: they need that other dimension. They need, you know, somebody

1165
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 16: who gives you that that intermediate to deep and vertical

1166
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 16: dimension that can really you know stretch defenses.

1167
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: Now at the very least, if there is gonna be

1168
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: or if there is a there is a plan, but

1169
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: whatever that plan may be. The Bills, if they're gonna

1170
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: like that they stay at twenty eight and they they

1171
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: can't find a way to move up or whatever that means,

1172
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: or if if they're willing to stay at twenty eight,

1173
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: that means at least there is multiple players that they

1174
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: have targeted at maybe right at wide receiver right that

1175
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: can be that because they know they know some one

1176
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: of these say what two or three guys is gonna

1177
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: be there at twenty eight. We don't care which one

1178
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: of these three it is. And you mentioned ad Mitchell,

1179
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas junior. Okay, Brian Thomas Junior probably won't be

1180
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: there at twenty eight. Maybe he will. Is there a

1181
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: third guys like an Xavier Legette or somebody like that

1182
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: that is there that would also go into that group.

1183
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 16: Well, then then I think you have to decide how

1184
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 16: you feel about someone like Xavier Worthy, who obviously can run.

1185
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 16: I mean, we didn't need a four to two to

1186
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 16: one forty times at the combine to tell us he

1187
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 16: can run. You just had to watch the tape. But

1188
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 16: he's a little more than that. He is a tough

1189
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 16: physical kid. I mean he's just one hundred and sixty

1190
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 16: five pounds, but he's not just a guy who just runs.

1191
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 16: And that's it now the way the league is. And

1192
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 16: you know, Joe Brady I think understands this, and he

1193
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 16: used motion and he used different formations. Obviously, with receivers

1194
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 16: like this, you have to be able to move them around.

1195
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 16: You have to be able to put them in motion.

1196
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 16: You have to be able to get them free access.

1197
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 16: You have to be able to exploit and take advantage

1198
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 16: of their speed, get them off the line cleanly so

1199
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 16: they can pressure the secondary vertically right off the bat. Obviously,

1200
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 16: you're not lining this guy up at boundary X and

1201
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 16: expecting him to, you know, hand fight bigger corners. So

1202
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 16: I don't know how you feel about someone like that.

1203
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 16: I mean, keep in mind, receivers are getting smaller now,

1204
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 16: some are really big. We have it's become like it

1205
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 16: either they're really big or they become smaller. You know,

1206
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 16: that's the way it's become. You know, last year he

1207
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 16: had someone like Joranison one hundred and seventy three pounds,

1208
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 16: Tank Dell one hundred and fifty five or one hundred

1209
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 16: and sixty pounds. It all depends, Steve, as you know,

1210
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 16: in the deployment of these players, how do you deploy

1211
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 16: them within the context of your offense.

1212
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: Greg I know you probably are aware of a lot

1213
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: of what I'm about to lay out for you, since

1214
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: you do watch the tape every week.

1215
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 3: But since Joe Brady took over as OC in Week.

1216
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: Eleven, in seven of the last nine games counting the

1217
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: two playoff games, either Kincaid, Shakir or Cook were one

1218
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: of the top two in target share in the passing

1219
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: game behind Diggs. And in seven of those nine games,

1220
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: two of those top two of those guys were in

1221
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: top three in target share. There almost seemed to be

1222
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 2: somewhat of a more democratic approach to the distribution of

1223
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 2: the ball in the scope of Buffalo's offense with Brady

1224
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: at the controls. I'm not going to pretend that that

1225
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: was a factor in the decision to move on from Diggs,

1226
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: but do you think they think it at least gave

1227
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: the Bills, Brass the coaching staff a little more comfort

1228
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: that they have multiple answers in the passing game if

1229
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: they have to subtract digs from the equation.

1230
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 16: I think that's without question Brown. He don't forget as

1231
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 16: soon as the season ended. You know what coaches do.

1232
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 16: They watch all the tape from the previous season before

1233
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 16: they even get to free agency and the draft. They

1234
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 16: watch every play from the previous season. And what you

1235
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 16: just said about the target share, and I didn't know

1236
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 16: the exact numbers, but it was evident on tape.

1237
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 7: That you know.

1238
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 16: I imagine with Kincaid, they've got bigger plans for him.

1239
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 16: Shakir has shown and by the way, Shakier when he

1240
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 16: was at Boise State played both in the slot and outside.

1241
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,959
Speaker 16: Shakira is not a little guy. I mean, he's not big,

1242
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 16: and he may not call him physical, but it's not

1243
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 16: like he's one hundred and seventy pounds. He's about one

1244
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 16: ninety five. He can line up all over the formation.

1245
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 16: So I think the sense is that they don't need

1246
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 16: to have quote unquote specific roles for players, like they

1247
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 16: don't need one boundary X and we're gonna line up

1248
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 16: this guy at boundary X all the time. That's our guy,

1249
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 16: where one guy is just gonna be in the slot.

1250
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 16: I think they see it just as you said, Brownie,

1251
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 16: and I'm sure that was part of the impetus for

1252
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 16: what they're doing what they just did, obviously, because they

1253
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 16: see their past game as being you know, much more

1254
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 16: diverse formationally.

1255
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's kind of what we're waiting to see

1256
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: what they're changing plans are Joe Brady with an off season,

1257
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: There's so much that we don't know about what's going

1258
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: on in the coaches offices, about their conversations. And I've

1259
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: said this time and time again over the last two weeks.

1260
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: We don't know the opinions that the Bill's coaching staff

1261
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: has about their own players alone, let alone about the

1262
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: players that they don't have yet. So that is to

1263
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,479
Speaker 1: me is the is the one bit of information about

1264
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: this dig trade that we don't know. How good do

1265
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: they feel about Curtis, Samuel Khalil, Shakir Dalton Kinkad Dal

1266
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: and James Cook, you know, I mean, how good do

1267
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: they feel about those guys?

1268
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 16: I mean, I know Cook had some tough drops this

1269
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 16: past year, but Cook is a very good receiver, and

1270
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 16: you know, you'd have to assume that that's more aberration

1271
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 16: than the way he is because he was a really

1272
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 16: good receiver in college. So you know, look, we'll see

1273
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 16: what happens there. Do they have a lot of draft capital?

1274
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 16: I mean, if the draft were to play out a

1275
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 16: certain way, can they move up? Do they have capital?

1276
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 10: Not?

1277
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 11: Not?

1278
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: Really.

1279
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 3: They pick at twenty eight and sixty in rounds one

1280
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 3: and two. They do not have a third.

1281
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: After they got job by the league on not getting

1282
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: a compensatory third for the Edmunds loss. They only got

1283
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 2: a four for that and they just parted with a five.

1284
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: Long story short, Eight of their ten remaining picks are

1285
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: on Day three.

1286
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 16: Okay, because you know you're starting. Look, you never know

1287
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 16: how the draft's going to go, and it's easy to

1288
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 16: sit here, and you know that's the fun of the

1289
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 16: draft is. You know, people do these mocks and people

1290
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 16: make up trades. You know that that's the fun of it.

1291
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 16: But you know, you never know how a draft is

1292
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 16: going to play out. Because what's gonna happen with all

1293
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 16: this quarterback talk is you're going to have a receivers

1294
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 16: start to drop. And when I say drop, I don't

1295
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 16: mean they're going to drop. You know, neighbors Harrison and

1296
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 16: duneesay they're not going to drop to twenty or anything

1297
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 16: like that. But I didn't know if they had enough

1298
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 16: capital that all of a sudden one of those guys

1299
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 16: was there at twelve or thirteen, you know, could they

1300
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 16: go get them? I don't know the answer to that,

1301
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 16: and they might not even be thinking like.

1302
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: That, right and it would you know, it's going to

1303
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: be mega expensive to move up into the top ten

1304
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: of the draft to get a guy that.

1305
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 16: I don't think they could do that, right.

1306
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: That's a that would be a plug and play player.

1307
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: But how many players do you think greg are there

1308
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: at that receiver position? And we've we've been dancing around

1309
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: this all time and.

1310
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 16: Play, Yeah, I would say, I would say Harrison, Neighbors

1311
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 16: and a Duneesay are plug and play, some more so

1312
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 16: than others, you know, but I would say that's absolutely

1313
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 16: the case. I would say, depending on your scheme and

1314
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 16: how you use him, I would say Lad McConkey is

1315
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 16: a plug and play player. He's just not a You

1316
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 16: wouldn't call him explosive in the way you'd call the

1317
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 16: other guys explosive. But McConkey is really fun to watch.

1318
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 16: I mean, this guy's an absolutely terrific rout runner. He

1319
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 16: gets open, he knows how to get corners off their spot.

1320
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 16: He knows how to get corners turned, you know, depending

1321
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 16: like like if I plugged Lad McConkie right now, right

1322
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 16: into the Rams offense with all their reduced cut splits

1323
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 16: and all their emotions, you know, McConkie would you know,

1324
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 16: I'm not saying he'd catch one hundred and four balls

1325
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 16: like Nikua, but you know, don't forget Nikoua was just

1326
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 16: a guy coming out of college. I mean, it's easy now.

1327
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 16: You know, there's a lot of people now that say, well, yeah,

1328
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 16: I love Nicola. You know that stuff's easy after the fact.

1329
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 16: But you know, McConkie is one of those kinds of

1330
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 16: guys that, if you in a certain kind of way,

1331
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 16: could easily be a factor year one.

1332
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: We kind of tend to think, Greg that not only

1333
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: must the Bills get a receiver high in the draft,

1334
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna have to get an additional one somewhere

1335
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 2: in the draft as well. Do you think two is

1336
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 2: the minimum they have to come out of this draft

1337
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 2: class with.

1338
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 16: I think they have to have two out of this

1339
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 16: class because the way they see it right now, I'm

1340
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 16: sure you know, without knowing all their meetings, and you

1341
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 16: know behind closed doors is Samuel and Shakira are cillarly

1342
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 16: going to be two of their top three and Kincaid

1343
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 16: I'm sure they see him in a much more advanced

1344
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 16: role this season. Now again we're not gonna sit here

1345
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 16: and say he's Travis Kelsey, but I'm sure they see

1346
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 16: him in a far more advanced role than he was

1347
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 16: as a rookie when he's still learning the league. So

1348
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 16: you know they see him, I guarantee as more than

1349
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 16: just a quote unquote tight end and.

1350
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: One of the last thing we've been you know, we've

1351
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: been had our ear to the ground, you know, for

1352
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: a while. And now just today Lad McConkie was on

1353
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: with Kay Adams and said that he's met with the

1354
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 1: Bills multiple times. Uh, in pre draft Mediyah.

1355
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 16: Well he's he's really Steve. You know, if you were

1356
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 16: to get to see this guy like in detail, you

1357
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 16: love him. I mean, this guys to run routes. I mean,

1358
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 16: he's the guy gets open. He's one of those guys

1359
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 16: he shakes guys off. He's yeah, he drops guys off.

1360
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 16: That's you know, that's kind of receiver lingo where you

1361
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 16: go out, you run a round and you dropped the

1362
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 16: dB here and you're over there, you know, you just

1363
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:36,560
Speaker 16: drop the guy on.

1364
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: He does that constantly.

1365
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 16: Yeah, and and well he's not a vertical threat. He's

1366
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 16: a little faster, I mean, for whatever it's worth. And

1367
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 16: you know, you can people can take forty times for

1368
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 16: whatever they mean. But he ran a four to three nine,

1369
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 16: which was pretty impressive. I mean I thought he'd run well,

1370
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 16: but I didn't think he'd run a four to three nine.

1371
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't either. I didn't either.

1372
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I'm telling you, the guy runs rotating a

1373
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: lot of Georgia games.

1374
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,839
Speaker 3: He gets open outside inside. He's just crafty.

1375
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh he knows.

1376
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 16: I mean, he knows how to use his vertical stem

1377
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 16: to get corners moved right how and he separate top

1378
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 16: of his route stem.

1379
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: Give us a draft range, what you know, how high

1380
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: could he go? How low could he go?

1381
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 16: That's a great you know again, because he's not truly explosive,

1382
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 16: you know. Then it becomes I think team and schemes specific,

1383
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 16: like depending on how you play offense, Like if you're

1384
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 16: a big motion team, if you use a lot of

1385
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 16: reduced splits, if if that's the way you play offense,

1386
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 16: he's your guy. You know, if you're just gonna line

1387
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 16: up guys static on the outside outside the numbers, you

1388
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 16: may not see him the same way Steve. But you know,

1389
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 16: there's more and more motion now in the league. There's

1390
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 16: more and more diversity with formations, there's more and more

1391
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 16: reduced splits. I mean, he kind of fits the way

1392
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 16: the league is going right now.

1393
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I see too. I think the

1394
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: guy is an NFL kind of receiver where he can

1395
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: line up and shift formation. He can shift, he can motion,

1396
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 1: he can line up tight, he can Yeah, and I

1397
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: because once once you start doing that, it becomes a

1398
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: much more mental game as a wide receiver because you're

1399
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: not only you're lined up here, and that you have

1400
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: to be aware of where the defense adjusts, how it

1401
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: adjusts while you're moving, and as the ball is being snapped.

1402
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: So you have to change your mind as the ball

1403
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: is snapped. And that's hard for a lot of guys

1404
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: to do because it's a mental exercise. He strikes me

1405
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: as a guy who has done that at Georgia and

1406
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: done it very well. Yeah.

1407
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 4: No, I I.

1408
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 16: Just really loved watching his tape and I think, like

1409
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 16: I said, you know, he's not going to be a

1410
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 16: top fifteen, but he's he could go higher than people think.

1411
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 16: I mean, he's his tape's good and you know, for

1412
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 16: whatever it means to another measurable, he had a four

1413
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 16: point zero four to twenty yard shuttle. That is really

1414
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 16: ridiculously off the charts.

1415
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a super low number. You do anything

1416
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,480
Speaker 3: under four to two, you're elite in that category.

1417
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: Greg, thanks as always, we appreciate it. We promised next

1418
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 2: time we'll talk more about some draft prospects. Although we

1419
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: did hit on some receivers again this time.

1420
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: So that's again, I mean, big day, big day in Buffalo.

1421
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 3: All right, we'll catch up in Greg.

1422
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 16: Thanks, Thanks guys.

1423
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: All right, that's Greg co Sale, senior producer from NFL Films,

1424
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: joining us talking about the Stefan Diggs trade. And uh yeah,

1425
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: I mean he was of that opinion last month when

1426
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 2: we talked to him at the combine. He sees Stefan

1427
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: Diggs as a declining receiver, one who is no longer

1428
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 2: a number a true number one wide out for a

1429
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: football team, and he astutely pointed out that's not going

1430
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: to be his role in Houston. Eco Collins is the

1431
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 2: number one, and then Digs and Tank Dell are gonna

1432
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 2: have to fight it out to be the number two.

1433
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: Listen, Steph has been a great player. There's no two

1434
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: ways about it. Steph Diggs has been the elite player

1435
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: that the Bills hoped he would be when they traded

1436
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 1: for him four years ago. Things have changed, the money's changed,

1437
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: his role has changed, the offensive coordinator has changed twice.

1438
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: You know, things are different. That doesn't mean Steph Diggs

1439
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: wasn't a great player for the Bills and he won't

1440
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: have a really good stretch with the Houston Texans coming up.

1441
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: But his time in Buffalo came to an end, and

1442
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons, and not all of which.

1443
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: I don't think the Lion's share of it was about

1444
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: his production. I think the Lion's share of it was

1445
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: financial and where they saw him being able to get them,

1446
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: being able to get value for the production he was

1447
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: going to be able to give him. I think that's

1448
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: what it came down to.

1449
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Amari Cooper gets, you know, the Dallas

1450
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 2: Cowboys a five and a six. You know, the Chargers

1451
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: get a four for Keenan Allen. The Bills didn't get

1452
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 2: a two this year. But getting a two, yeah, for

1453
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs is pretty good value. I know some people

1454
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 2: out there saying that's not a lot for one hundred

1455
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: catch receiver. Well, it's one hundred catch receiver who's turning

1456
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: thirty one and who, in the eyes of some is

1457
01:14:59,360 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: in decline.

1458
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're I think it's a pretty good compensation.

1459
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, Yeah, I mean that's that was And Greg

1460
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: is right, you only get what the market will bear.

1461
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, there's been some guys even

1462
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: all this morning, they're saying, well, you know, Steph Diggs,

1463
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 1: they got what they could get, and they did Steph

1464
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: Diggs a favor by sending him to an up and

1465
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: coming quarterback like c. J. Stroud down in Houston. Let

1466
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: me just tell you them, the Bill that is a

1467
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: that is an unintended bonus for Steph Diggs. Because the

1468
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: Bills were going to get the best deal they could get.

1469
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 1: They didn't care if it was to Seattle or Minnesota

1470
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: or anyplace else. If they had gotten a number one

1471
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: for Steph, he'd have been going to Vegas, you know,

1472
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: he would have been going anywhere else. That's just the

1473
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: way that the mechanism works, the Bills are gonna get

1474
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 1: what's best for them. And the fact that Diggs is

1475
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: going to go to a place that's up and coming,

1476
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: got a shot at winning the division, all that that's

1477
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: just a bonus for the for Digs, not for the Bills.

1478
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 2: We have got to take a break here, but we're

1479
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: back to your phone calls when we return way in.

1480
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 2: It's now official the Bills have agreed to terms on

1481
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 2: a trade to send Stefan Diggs to the Houston Texans,

1482
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: and the compensation is a twenty twenty five second round pick.

1483
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: You let us know what you think at ATO three

1484
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: oh five fifty when we return here on One Bills Live.

1485
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 3: Stay with us all right back here on One Bill's

1486
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 3: Live the.

1487
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 2: Day that Stefan Diggs is moved to Houston in trade

1488
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 2: with the Texans, and now official that they have agreed

1489
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: the terms on the trade compensation, and we're getting your

1490
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: thoughts at ATO three five fifty. So we go back

1491
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 2: to the phones and we go to Bob in Florida.

1492
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 3: Next. What's up, Bob?

1493
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 11: Hello, Chris and Steve love watching your show and Bill's

1494
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 11: fan since nineteen sixty and always loved watching eighty nine

1495
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 11: went up and down the field in the nineties. You

1496
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 11: guys are talking about how there's not going to be

1497
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 11: obviously as many there's gonna be more targets to go around,

1498
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 11: and you keep mentioning Shakir, Samuel Cook and Kincaid, but

1499
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 11: there's been no mention of Knox, and I'm wondering if

1500
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 11: maybe he's going to have a less of a role

1501
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 11: and he's a better blocker. And also, I just wanted

1502
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 11: to touch on the fact that with Stefan Diggs, you know,

1503
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 11: obviously everybody knows it's a bit of a diva. And

1504
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 11: if you were Sean mcturmott or Joe Brady or Josh

1505
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 11: Allen and you had a no going into the game, well,

1506
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 11: we got to give this guy X amount of targets

1507
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 11: or he's not going to be happy you got a

1508
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 11: tiptoe around him. And you know, chemistry is obviously a

1509
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 11: huge thing in sports or in business. And that's what

1510
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 11: I had to say, And want to see what you

1511
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 11: guys think of that.

1512
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll let Steve handle the dig stuff, but I'll say,

1513
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: as far as Knox is concerned, there's two things we

1514
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: have to look at. Under Brady down the stretch last

1515
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 2: year nine games. The biggest target game that Dawson Knox

1516
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: had down the stretch was three targets, and that happened

1517
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 2: a couple of times. Now, granted, he was coming back

1518
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: from a wrist injury that had him on injured reserve

1519
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 2: for about a six week stretch in the middle of

1520
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 2: the season, So when he came back, you know, maybe

1521
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 2: that was a factor in getting back involved into the

1522
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 2: offensive attack. But I don't think it's any secret that

1523
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 2: Dalton Kinkaid is tight end one in the passing game.

1524
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: That's number one, Number two. Shakir and Cook emerged as

1525
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 2: passing weapons as well in the second half of the season,

1526
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: and Knox kind of suffered in terms of the pecking

1527
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 2: order due partially to his absence, and it didn't materialize

1528
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 2: when he returned. Now could that all change going into

1529
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, Absolutely, who knows. Maybe they come out

1530
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 2: with more two tight end sets at the start of

1531
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 2: the year like they did last season, and he's a

1532
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 2: bigger factor.

1533
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: It's not like he can't handle it. I mean, it

1534
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 3: wasn't too long ago.

1535
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 2: This guy had a nine touchdown season, which led to

1536
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:09,839
Speaker 2: his big contract extension.

1537
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see with three nine touchdowns with

1538
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 1: three cold his rookie year seven touchdowns with three cold back.

1539
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: So looking at it based on the small body of

1540
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: evidence that we have under Joe Brady nine games, I

1541
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,799
Speaker 2: would say no. But who knows what kind of plans

1542
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 2: they have cooked up in the offseason to change it.

1543
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 2: Now you want to address the Digs portion.

1544
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: Of the about him being what was what was this

1545
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 1: point about Digs about being a dev.

1546
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 2: Was saying it was a lot to manage for the

1547
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: head coach, for the quarterback, saying all the right things,

1548
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 2: doing all the right.

1549
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,799
Speaker 1: Now, that's all conjecture because the team has always defended Diggs.

1550
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: So we don't know if it was genuine or whether

1551
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: it was manufactured. Certainly Digs was a great player and

1552
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: nobody wanted the guy not to be on the field.

1553
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: Uh So, any it may come out, maybe the players

1554
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: will say, yeah, it's a little bit of breath for

1555
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: what all. Whatever they may say about Digs after after

1556
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,839
Speaker 1: he's gone, I would I would imagine that they continue

1557
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: to take the high road. So we're never going to

1558
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: know the real story about Steph in the locker room,

1559
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: whether it was a problem or whatever. People seem to

1560
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: suspect it constantly with Steph, and Steph has brought some

1561
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,799
Speaker 1: of that on with himself with the social media posts

1562
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: and all of that. I think this they're saving a

1563
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: ton of cat They're getting hit banged hard with cap

1564
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: hit this year, no question about it, but they get

1565
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 1: a ton of it back next year. And I think

1566
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: they feel really good about their offensive spots this year

1567
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: with and without Digs, and are ready to go to

1568
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 1: you know, go to do win games with the guys

1569
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: they've got, plus some draft picks, and next year they're

1570
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna reload again and be right back at it. Even

1571
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: if they do stumble this year, I don't anticipate in

1572
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: stumbling at all. With Josh taking snaps and the offensive

1573
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: line the way it is, the weapons they already have,

1574
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: they may be better. You mean, you think about it.

1575
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: If any of the stuff that we hear about Digs

1576
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,560
Speaker 1: are suspected about Diggs is true, and you plug in

1577
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that are not like that off

1578
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: the field and fill that void on the field, or

1579
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: get those targets on the field, you got to think

1580
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: this team's gonna be a wagon again with Josh why

1581
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: wouldn't you. So there's a lot going on here, and

1582
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: I think maybe we're focusing too much on the stepf

1583
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: dig stuff and not worried enough about how they're gonna

1584
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,879
Speaker 1: fill a defensive backfield that has got two major losses

1585
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: up at both safety spots. And they got a linebacker

1586
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: coming back who may not be ready for training camp

1587
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: in Matt Mulana. Who's all pro corners that are gonna

1588
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: be young and a little bit untested, at least one

1589
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: of them in Kayir Elam. The defense may still be

1590
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: the one where you're thinking, Man, I don't know if

1591
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be ready or not. But offensively, yeah, I

1592
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: know Diggs was a great player, certainly was, but he

1593
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: kind of disappeared in the second half of last season

1594
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: when they were going six and one down the stretch.

1595
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm not concerned at their ability to score points and

1596
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: beat teams offensively. So that's that's where I'm at. All

1597
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: the stuff about Diggs off the field is a wash. Now,

1598
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. It's irrelevant because the guy

1599
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: produced on it, so they need to they need to replace.

1600
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: That is the real deal. So we'll see.

1601
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 3: Let's go to Judy in Buffalo Nex. What's up, Judy.

1602
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 17: Yeah, I do not understand this urgency of moving up

1603
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 17: in the draft to get a receiver. The point I've

1604
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 17: been trying to make for years now is all right,

1605
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 17: last year, the uh one of the more the two

1606
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 17: of the more impactful receivers were taken in the second

1607
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 17: in the fifth round. Why were they im pestel because

1608
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 17: they had highly proficient quarterbacks throwing to them. The point

1609
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 17: is there are plenty of receivers on the board. The

1610
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 17: Bills can draft, and they can use the best quarterback

1611
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 17: in the league to make them a star.

1612
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 3: Okay, out, yep, thanks Judy.

1613
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot in that, Judy. And you're right people

1614
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: Brownie and I included not just fans, but you know

1615
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: people who watch this close like like you do. You're right.

1616
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: There are guys. Steph Diggs wasn't a first round draft pick.

1617
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 3: His fifth round pick, right, you know there was a

1618
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 3: fifth round and you.

1619
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: Know Puka Nakua. Okay, yeah, all these guys, Antonio Brown

1620
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: certainly they're going and Curtis Samuel second round pick who

1621
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: is gifted as a second round pick. Yes, you can

1622
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: expect there to be players like that. Around. But those

1623
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: are the exception, not the rule. And the higher you

1624
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: get towards the top of the round, the more and

1625
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: more confident you are that the guy is who you

1626
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 1: think he is, because you've seen it on the field,

1627
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: you've seen it in testing, you've seen it, and when

1628
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: he sat down and looked him in the eye and

1629
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 1: talked to him, there's just fewer question marks. You're right, Judy.

1630
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: The Bills may wait until pick one twenty eight to

1631
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 1: take a wide receiver, and that guy may be Steph

1632
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 1: Diggs and waiting, okay, or he might be you know whatever,

1633
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: pick your name. That's possible. That's possible, and you hope

1634
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, what are you kidding?

1635
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 6: Men?

1636
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: You hope it is. But those guys are the exceptions,

1637
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: not the rule, and it's hard to find him and

1638
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: pick the right guy because, let's face it, the Bills

1639
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: have picked wide receivers throughout the draft, all through the

1640
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean Sean McDermott era, and there haven't been that

1641
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: many of them that have been good. I mean, you

1642
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: can go down the list. I mean, I'll go in

1643
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: the break here, I'll go down and give a rundown

1644
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: of all the guys. In the lower rounds. They picked

1645
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: Justin Shorter, Tyrrel Shavers.

1646
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 3: Well he was undrafted.

1647
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the kid who had the hams. I mean, there's

1648
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: there's one every year that never makes.

1649
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: Him, Mark West Stevenson.

1650
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: That's it, Mark hip Quest Stevenson. So yeah, they make

1651
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna they can pick a receiver in every pick

1652
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: of the draft if they want to. But those guys

1653
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 1: are the exception, not the rule.

1654
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 2: And the reason teams move up to select a certain

1655
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: player high in the draft is because they believe the

1656
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 2: projection is more rock solid on a player like that

1657
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 2: based on their skill set, their character, background and everything else,

1658
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 2: that it reduces the degree of risk. So it's worth

1659
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: it to part with draft capital to move up and

1660
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 2: assume that less risk with a more high caliber player.

1661
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 2: That's usually the impetus to Mark and West Seneca.

1662
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: What's up, Mark, Hey, guys.

1663
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: Good.

1664
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 18: A couple of things we go on and on about

1665
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 18: this today. First thing about stuff, it's this is pro

1666
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 18: sports and character's stuff that people want to bring out

1667
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,759
Speaker 18: and all he's a deep and all that kind of stuff.

1668
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 18: Winning is first, foremost and always will be. And if

1669
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 18: Steph was still the player he used to be, he'd

1670
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 18: still be on the roster. The fact of the matter

1671
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 18: is in pro sports there's different rules for different players

1672
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 18: based on the status on their team, and the Bills

1673
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 18: probably put up with a lot more than a lot

1674
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 18: of guys way down the roster they would have done.

1675
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 18: So that being said, all of that stuff to me

1676
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 18: is just irrelevant. Number one, number two, as far as

1677
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,560
Speaker 18: not having capital now with three number two picks in

1678
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 18: the next two years, I'm curious, Steve, you get out

1679
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 18: your board there. What would the first number, the twenty

1680
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 18: eight pick, and two of those twos this year? How

1681
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 18: far would that get them up the board? Because I

1682
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 18: really have this feeling that they're going to try and

1683
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 18: get far enough up the board to get Brian Thomas.

1684
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 18: Your Now, if those two number twos and that number

1685
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 18: one can get them up somewhere between ten to fifteen,

1686
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 18: I think that might be Brandon Bean's play here. And

1687
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 18: then lastly, and then I'll hang up really quick. All

1688
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 18: of this talk about offense, offense, offense, offense, I find

1689
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 18: it very iron and I'm not saying it's not true,

1690
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 18: it's not right, But let's not lose sight of the

1691
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 18: fact that the Super Bowl winning team this year. In

1692
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 18: my opinion of the Kansas City Chiefs, their defense one

1693
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 18: got them into the playoffs and then won that Super

1694
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 18: Bowl for them. They were much more prolific defensively than

1695
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 18: they were offensively.

1696
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 3: It was the strength of their team. I won't debate that.

1697
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 18: If you compared them to us, we're totally opposite. I

1698
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 18: believe we're way ahead of them talent wise on offense

1699
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 18: and they're way ahead of us talent wise on defense.

1700
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 18: So it's not even in apples to apples comparison. And

1701
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 18: I'll leave you guys with that.

1702
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 3: Thanks guy, Thanks Mark, appreciate it.

1703
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 2: No, you're right, Chiefs strength of their team their defense.

1704
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 2: They were number two defense total defense, and they were

1705
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: number two against in points against.

1706
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 3: They were outstanding last year.

1707
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: And people lose sight of that because the focus is

1708
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 2: always on Mahomes and Kelsey and Isaiah Pacheco and all

1709
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: of that. But no, absolutely, And yeah, the Bills still

1710
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: probably have a little work to do on the defensive

1711
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 2: side of the ball in the draft. But this is

1712
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: going to polarize the wide receiver position even more than

1713
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: we've already been harping on it. And now it is

1714
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 2: an absolute must. There's no ifans or butts about it.

1715
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: Bottom line, we are up against the clock, so we

1716
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: got to take a break here. When we come back,

1717
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: we'll see if we have time to squeeze a call

1718
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,719
Speaker 2: in and we'll show you where Steve and I wound

1719
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 2: up last night in a Sabers victory. We'll get to

1720
01:28:44,880 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 2: that when we return here on One Bill's Live. All right,

1721
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 2: good discussion today here on One Bills Live on the

1722
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 2: Digs Trade to Houston. It was. It was a little surprising,

1723
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 2: to say the least, as many of us anticipated, with

1724
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 2: the cost prohibitive nature of his cap situation, that it

1725
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: would probably wait until next year before something like this

1726
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: was afoot. But here we are, and now there's a

1727
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,560
Speaker 2: big deal there. Last night Steve and I caught the

1728
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 2: Sabers game. Steve nice enough to invite me to sit

1729
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: in one of his seats. Sabers wins six to two,

1730
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: and the broadcast team caught us there.

1731
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 3: They caught us at the game.

1732
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 1: We had I'll tell you what, we had a blast.

1733
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: It was absolutely so fun to be there. BROWNI and

1734
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 1: I were laughing, so it was yeah. Plus they won

1735
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: six to two. By the way, we had a good time. Uh,

1736
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: we'll do it again. Yeah, yeah, we'll see it tomorrow.

1737
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 1: We got Trevor Sikima from PFF. We'll see it, won

1738
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 5: He