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Speaker 2: A bit of the breaking news it came out just

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Speaker 2: before two o'clock, is that former President Trump went on

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Speaker 2: truth social and posted that he believes Jack Smith, the

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Speaker 2: federal prosecutor looking into Trump, will issue an indictment against

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Speaker 2: him at five pm. That's Eastern time, so that's two

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Speaker 2: o'clock our time. We don't know yet if that's going

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Speaker 2: to happen, but that is what Trump is saying. It

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Speaker 2: would be his second federal indictment and his third criminal

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Speaker 2: indictment overall.

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Speaker 1: It was two weeks ago he said he got a letter.

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Speaker 2: From Smith's team notifying him he was the target of

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Speaker 2: an investigation. So the federal grand jury hears on Tuesdays

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Speaker 2: guess it's possible unless Trump just got a bum u.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, the news networks they could have inside knowledge.

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Speaker 1: They're acting as if it is imminent. It is happening.

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Speaker 1: They've got live cameras pointed at the courtroom or at

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Speaker 1: the courthouse building, and the grand jury investigating interference has

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Speaker 1: finished for the day, so we'll see. But they're running

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Speaker 1: all the big headlines that he's expected to be indicted today,

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Speaker 1: or at least Trump thinks so. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they know that it's coming. I mean, they must

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Speaker 1: have followed up with their sources to see if it's true,

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Speaker 2: I suppose so, so again, this is a federal indictment

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Speaker 2: and it deals with the twenty twenty election.

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Speaker 1: One of Trump's old attorneys, remember Ty Cobb, Ty Cob, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Famers got like founding father head and hair batted over

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Speaker 2: four hundred, like the handlebar mustache and the strange receiving

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Speaker 2: hairline with the long hair in the back. He called

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Speaker 2: Trump a deeply wounded narcissist who acted in a criminal

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Speaker 2: manner to try to overturn the twenty twenty election results. Huh,

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Speaker 2: I guess he's had changed his tune on the lawyers

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Speaker 2: will represent you, and.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you leave anywhere, they're being paid, right, if

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Speaker 1: you pay him, theyn't say anything. But when you stop

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Speaker 1: paying them then.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Well we'll keep an eye on that story and we'll

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Speaker 2: bring you coverage from ABC News if Jack Smith, the prosecutor,

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Speaker 2: has anything to say during our show. We now turn

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Speaker 2: to today being August first. That means that renters in

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles supposed to pay back the rent that they

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Speaker 2: didn't pay in the first eighteen months of the pandemic,

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Speaker 2: which takes us back, of course, March twenty twenty to

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Speaker 2: September twenty twenty one. Covering the story for KFI News

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Speaker 2: is Blake Trolley Blake Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Hey guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So, with all of this, Mayor Bass has announced

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Speaker 5: resources to help tenants and landlords, but the big focus

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Speaker 5: here seems to be on tenants. The city launched a

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Speaker 5: pr campaign to get the word out long before this

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Speaker 5: deadline that included radio ads, newspaper ads, and social media

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Speaker 5: to make people aware of resources. The Mayor's Fund, which

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Speaker 5: is essentially a private organization for the Mayor's agenda, has

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Speaker 5: launched a program that connects people facing eviction with resources,

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Speaker 5: including legal help. That organization has made case management appointments

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Speaker 5: with more than ten thousand people. Ten thousand, more than

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Speaker 5: ten thousand people. That's according to the mayor's press release yesterday.

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Speaker 1: John I didn't understand they got a break for a

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Speaker 5: And we'll get into that, because the Apartment Association of

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Speaker 4: I just want to get through the resources here, just

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Speaker 5: Know, we can kind of lay out what's being done

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Speaker 5: for tenants as opposed to landlords. The city, county and

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Speaker 5: facing eviction to understand rent or protection. It also will

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Speaker 6: Many in our city are facing eviction because of the

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Speaker 6: expiration of certain COVID nineteen rental protections. But that is

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Speaker 6: not the headline of today. The headline is that for

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Speaker 6: the first time, the city is taking a coordinated, proactive

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Speaker 6: approach to assisting Angelinos to stay inside. Our message today

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Speaker 6: to Angelino's is clear, do not self evict. If you

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Speaker 1: Well, that's promoting wawlessness here. I mean, if you haven't

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Speaker 1: who is she telling people to Well.

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Speaker 2: She said, self evict mean don't do anyth until you

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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, But that's the proper thing to do

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Speaker 1: when you're not paying your bills anymore. Yeah, you should

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Speaker 1: move out, go find a cheaper place to live. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand a public official telling people, go ahead, keep

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Speaker 1: That's terrible, and.

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Speaker 5: We'll get into some of these egregious cases of people

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Speaker 5: not paying their rent. John, But all the motivation for

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Speaker 5: seems to be the big fear with these evictions. As

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Speaker 5: you guys know, the homeless count was up year over

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Speaker 5: year in LA this year. The mayor says she's worried

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Speaker 5: it could happen again. She said that yesterday at the

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Speaker 5: support tenants, but also wants to support small landlords and

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Speaker 5: make sure they don't go under. But Bass yesterday highlighted

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Speaker 5: a proposal this goes up against a committee tomorrow to

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Speaker 5: use money from that new mansion tax, that luxury real

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Speaker 5: estate tax that we heard about. It was just enacted

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Speaker 5: this year. The investments into tenants far out way the landlords.

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Speaker 5: Let's break this down. About eighteen and a half million

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Speaker 5: going straight back to landlords for money they're owed twenty

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Speaker 5: three millions, so you're already at more than four million.

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Speaker 5: More would go to an eviction defense program. Now in

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Speaker 5: limited cases, the mayor says that money would go to

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Speaker 5: paying settlements of back rent. Five and a half million

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Speaker 1: At ka pointait, wait, stop a second, what's to educate?

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Speaker 1: I think you have a money ten you have a

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Speaker 1: to a class. You know, if you're renting something for

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Speaker 4: You know I didn't need a class for it, John,

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Speaker 1: I don't ever going to a class.

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Speaker 5: And how to pay rent, well, we're still not through

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Speaker 5: this number. Eleven and eleven point two million would go

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Speaker 5: the amount would go to tenants than go to just

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Speaker 5: paying back landlords. I tried to question the mayor about it.

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Speaker 5: Here's that exchange for yesterday.

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Speaker 4: See any more money highlighted URL dollars.

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Speaker 6: At you're out in the.

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Speaker 4: City housholds at all? Pay are gear forwards tenants?

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Speaker 1: When only eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Million is geared force renal assistance? They're talking about why

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Speaker 4: to put all the money in rental.

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Speaker 5: Assists and at LEAs try to make them a whole

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Speaker 6: You have to do both, I mean, to address this problem.

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Speaker 6: You need to protect the tenants, but you also need

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Speaker 6: to protect the landlords as well. You know, years ago

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Speaker 6: when Proposition H was passed, I think there were about

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Speaker 6: fourteen thousand people who were unhoused. We saw an explosion

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Speaker 6: of people who were unhoused. Why because attention was not

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Speaker 1: If we're serious about.

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Speaker 6: This problem, we have to address it comprehensively, which means

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Speaker 6: we have to prevent people from falling into homelessness, shut

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Speaker 1: They're drug addicts. That's why they fell into homelessness. They're

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Speaker 1: drug addicts. And and the myth and the fentidel exploded.

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Speaker 1: She walks around saying this out loud. That is crazy talk.

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Speaker 1: That's that that's completely false, completely false. It's the drugs

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Speaker 5: I know you guys had Daniel Eyugleson from the Apartment

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Speaker 5: rather than blowing the money on private attorneys, it's time

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Speaker 5: for the city to cover unpaid rent.

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Speaker 4: He says a lot of landlords are still owed.

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Speaker 5: Money, and he says the city needs to stop babysitting

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Speaker 5: what he calls adults who have taken advantage of the

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Speaker 7: In many cases, our organization received evidence of owners being

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Speaker 7: completely taken advantage of by their tenants. Tenants who are

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Speaker 7: Amazon and restaurant food deliveries continued, new cars continued to

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Speaker 7: the most egregious cases, tenants were able to bank enough

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Speaker 7: money from rent that they saved to put a down

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Speaker 1: To imagine not paying your rent or your mortgage for

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Speaker 1: three and a half years. Yeah, you'd have a big

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Speaker 1: I know two people who got screwed by their tenants.

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Speaker 1: One woman was a lawyer and she wasn't paying a rent.

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Speaker 1: She had two teenagers living with her, and she went

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Speaker 5: To the guy, you know, John, I just moved out

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Speaker 5: I'm getting on the John Cobil diet now because I've

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Speaker 5: been eating a lot more steak just by saving, by

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Speaker 5: saving about half when I was paying to have my

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Speaker 7: There you go.

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Speaker 1: It's a very healthy diet. You live a long time.

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Speaker 4: At our levels are superb.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Blake, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: All Right, thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Blake trolley covering. Of course, today being

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Speaker 2: August first, la renters have to pay about a year

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Speaker 2: and a half worth the back rent that they owed

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Speaker 2: that has been suspended since the pandemic began. You should have.

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Speaker 1: Come out and said you got a year and a half.

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Speaker 1: You should have banked the savings. That's what you should

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Speaker 1: have done. These people didn't. They bought stuff, they went

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Speaker 1: on vacation, they indulged, they acted irresponsibly like little kids.

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Speaker 1: And she won. And you know that what Blake said

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Speaker 1: about the attorneys, how many politically connected attorneys are going

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Speaker 1: to be on this gravy train representing these soon to

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Speaker 1: He's been doing this for eight years. Every time he burps,

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Speaker 1: not paying. Don't bother me. I'm entitled to this, to

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Speaker 2: Now, when he laid out his case based on the

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Speaker 1: You know what, this guy's acting like a real jerk.

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Speaker 1: That is some mean and nasty. Now he wants to

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Speaker 1: into total revolt here. Really, you've got to you've got

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Speaker 1: He contacted some whack job of the Yimbie movement, yes

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Speaker 2: Now there's gonna be a lot more guys with him

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Speaker 1: Well that she's that's part of the loophole. If he

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Speaker 2: In Silmar, he wants to build forty town homes on

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Speaker 1: Is you know what this is where this is where

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Speaker 1: It opened the door for this guy Jaw to uh.

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Speaker 2: I guess he just figured out his niche here. But

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: A couple of the people on the commission said they

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Speaker 1: Samantha Millman is a planning commissioner and he she said

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Speaker 1: and it's a reference both to Jaw's attitude towards his

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have an eighty nine foot tall apartment

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Speaker 2: That's what we feared. And of course one of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, that's the they created like these fake

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Speaker 2: We told everybody that that was the idea behind some

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Speaker 1: See and the way this is worded so misleadingly. It

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Speaker 1: It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa half a mile is

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Speaker 1: a long distance. He is plopping it in a subdivision

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Speaker 1: Oh it did not stop plopped in the middle of

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Speaker 1: That's a ten minute walk.

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Speaker 1: As you heard during Debor's News, Trump has been indicted

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Speaker 1: by the Special Council Jack Smith for the January sixth events.

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Speaker 1: I see one reporter on Fox holding up the indictment

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Speaker 2: But it's funny because CNN was reporting that it's sealed. Well,

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Speaker 2: it got unsealed, I guess. So this was fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: Now he's reading through it now, Oh and with the

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, Trump said he got a letter from

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Speaker 2: this Jack Smith, that's a special counsel behind this informing

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Speaker 2: criminal charges would include a conspiracy to committed defense against her,

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me see here.

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Speaker 2: Some of the detail we knew about would involve in

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Speaker 1: But the charges include wilful retention of national defense information,

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Speaker 1: or is that is? Is that the mar A Lago case?

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Speaker 2: This is kind of you have to you have to

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Speaker 7: And I know it.

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Speaker 1: Just hand it to me and I think, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: for the New York Times. Conspiracy to defraud the United States,

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Speaker 1: That's when the electors from each state were to be

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Speaker 2: Here is the exact. Trump has been charged with four crimes,

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Speaker 2: So there you go. So there's four counts.

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Speaker 1: come together, and they go through a ceremony that's been

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Speaker 1: going on for hundreds of years, which is the official

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Speaker 1: certification of the electors. And that's one of the few

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Speaker 1: roles that a vice president has under our system, is

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Speaker 1: that he's he's in charge of the official declaration. But

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Speaker 1: we know it's that it's that assembly that got so

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Speaker 1: terribly disrupted, which has led to these crimes or being charged.

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Speaker 2: Then he really wanted pens to do something. And Pence,

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Speaker 2: of course vice president, was President of the Senate as

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Speaker 2: the vice president, and apparently Trump insisted Pence could do

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Speaker 2: something to overturn that certification by Congress, remember that whole

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Speaker 2: ordeal there, And he was very upset that penns didn't

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Speaker 2: stand up and do something to stop that. Well, so

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's involved.

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Speaker 1: Trump was getting advised by somebody we had on the

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Speaker 1: show a number of times, John Eastman, who is the

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Speaker 1: law professor out of Chapman University, and he told Trump,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it was a complicated scheme on how

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Speaker 1: you could get around you know, they were looking for

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Speaker 1: loopholes in the constitution, and you know, Eastman thought he

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Speaker 1: had cracked it right. He's the one who laid out

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Speaker 1: the ROADMAMP and of course Trump brought into it because

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Speaker 1: Trump was looking for, if at all possible, a legal

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Speaker 1: way to get the presidency back. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they ever charged Eastman. I don't think they did,

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Speaker 1: but I know that was being talked about for a while.

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Speaker 1: And since then Congress has like narrowed the loopholes a

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Speaker 1: little so that nobody could make that interpretation anymore right

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Speaker 1: in the walk because the law, the last law that

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Speaker 1: they wrote on this was from eighteen eighty seven, and

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Speaker 1: it just never came up before. And that's the trouble

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Speaker 1: with a lot of laws written in the seventeen hundreds

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Speaker 1: and the eighteen hundreds, you know, just such a dramatically

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Speaker 1: different world and such stilted language they use, that there

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Speaker 1: were loopholes that somebody like Trump and attorneys could try

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Speaker 1: to exploit at least.

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Speaker 2: So this is now the third time Trump has been

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Speaker 2: criminally indited. He was just charged in that classified documents

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Speaker 2: case in June by the same guy, Jack Smith, and

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Speaker 2: then the Manhattan Grand jury charged him with that business

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Speaker 2: fraud case back in March. We also know that in Georgia,

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Speaker 2: they're looking at the possible case against Trump dealing with

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Speaker 2: trying to change the outcome in that state.

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Speaker 1: Well, the district attorney down there says they've got their

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Speaker 1: their work done. I heard that it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a noun sometime this month. But they're working on security

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Speaker 1: measures because they're afraid, being down in Georgia that there

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Speaker 1: could be, you know, some kind of violent interruption from

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Speaker 1: the Trump supporters. So they're being very cagy as to

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Speaker 1: exactly they just said sometime between now and the first

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Speaker 1: of September. What does this mean?

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Speaker 2: Probably nothing for next year, even though we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to figure out when these trials are and how they

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Speaker 2: line up versus the process of picking a Republican presidential nominee.

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Speaker 2: But we've seen the polls that have come out this week,

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Speaker 2: and there is definitely a staunch faction in the Republican

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Speaker 2: Party that wants Trump and no one else. What was it,

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Speaker 2: thirty seven percent, John thirty. They don't believe any of

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Speaker 2: the charges and there's absolutely nothing that could get them

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Speaker 2: to vote for anyone else. And as far as we know,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing legally that would keep him from continuing his

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Speaker 2: presidential run. Right, No, he could even serve from prison.

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Speaker 2: If he yes sentence by next year.

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Speaker 1: He could be president from prison.

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Speaker 2: Then he could pardon himself.

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Speaker 1: Every time I hear that discussion, legal people say, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. One of those things no one thought about.

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Speaker 1: Never came up before, you know, when the founding fathers

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Speaker 1: were writing the Constitution.

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Speaker 2: So this is one of these deals where people who

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Speaker 2: really hate Trump and have hated them all along are

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Speaker 2: excited and we're finally going to get him, and people

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Speaker 2: who love Trump are like, eh, yeah, it's all corrupt, right.

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Speaker 2: They didn't like the outcome of the election. Trump was

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Speaker 2: the winner, and who cares. What's a complete loss of

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Speaker 2: faith in the whole system. There's some people in the

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Speaker 2: middle who kind of shrug at both sides and like,

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Speaker 2: come my god, and of course all I do have

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Speaker 2: it here. Trump was just railing with his latest email

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Speaker 2: that he put out about the corrupt Biden's even brought

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Speaker 2: up the Nazis. John in this latest email, I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at Nazis good, Yeah, it says here Biden and his

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Speaker 2: supporters are reminiscent of Nazi Germany in the nineteen thirties. Also,

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Speaker 2: the former Soviet Union and other authoritarian dictatorial over jeeves

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Speaker 2: see oncen. Trump has always followed the law in the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: Once once your argument goes to Nazis, you got nowhere

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Speaker 1: else to go, like tomorrow, you can't compare to right

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Speaker 1: through the communists too. It's pretty it's pretty clear Biden

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Speaker 1: and his son we're running their own criminal organization. So

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Speaker 1: this is what we have running for president here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're clear thinking, obviously, did you see today's poll results?

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Speaker 1: They are completely locked.

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Speaker 2: H They're they're split in the vote almost exactly according

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Speaker 2: to the latest polls. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: will sit out.

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Speaker 1: But well, even if only one person votes, you only

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Speaker 1: have to win by.

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Speaker 2: One that's right. Uh oh yeah, he put out Wow,

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Speaker 2: he's putting out a bunch of statements. Jack Smith's election interference,

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Speaker 2: you see, he's in. He's interfering in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four election. There, right, The Bidens have made millions saying

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Speaker 2: selling access to the Chinese Communist Party, Ukraine and other

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Speaker 2: foreign nations. Joe Biden has now weaponized a Department of

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Speaker 2: Justice to act as a shield to cover up his crimes.

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Speaker 2: It's a good one, all right. We'll have more as

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Speaker 2: we find it out. Johnny Ken KFIAM six forty live

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Speaker 2: everywhere iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 3: AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: I have the indictment. It's in front of me here.

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Speaker 2: I't me to spend the next hour reading it or

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Speaker 2: sure CNN just posted it. The Federal Grand Jury has

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Speaker 2: indicted former President Trump in Special Council Jack Smith's investigation

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Speaker 2: into efforts to overturn the twenty twenty election leading up

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Speaker 2: to the January sixth, twenty twenty one attack on the

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Speaker 2: US Capitol. By the way, we understand that Smith is

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Speaker 2: going to make some kind of statement He's the Special

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Speaker 2: Council at three pm R time, So we'll pick up

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Speaker 2: that coverage for as long as it is interesting. It

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Speaker 2: starts off by saying who Trump was forty fifth President

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Speaker 2: the United States? Despite having lost, the defendant was determined

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Speaker 2: to remain in power, so for more than two months

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Speaker 2: following election day on November third, twenty twenty, the defendant

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Speaker 2: spread lies that there had been outcome determinative fraud in

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Speaker 2: the election and that he had actually won. These claims

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Speaker 2: were false. The defendant knew they were false, the defendant

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Speaker 2: repeated and widely disseminated them anyway to make his knowingly

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Speaker 2: false claims against legitimate or to appear legitimate, create his

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Speaker 2: intense national atmosphere of mistrust and anger, and erode public

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Speaker 2: faith in the administration of the election. See some of that, though,

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Speaker 2: when I read that paragraph, it just sounds like a

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Speaker 2: sort of a free speech thing. Yeah, well, they shay,

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Speaker 2: and that says that the president has a right. The

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Speaker 2: defendant has right, like every Americans, be publicly about the

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Speaker 2: election and even to claim falsely that there had been

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Speaker 2: outcome determinative fraud during the election that he had won.

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Speaker 2: He's also entited to formally challenge the results of the

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Speaker 2: election through lawful and appropriate means, like seeking recounts or

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Speaker 2: audits of the popular vote. Indeed, in many cases the

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Speaker 2: defendant did sue these methods. His efforts to change the

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Speaker 2: outcome in any state through recounts, audits, or legal challenges

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Speaker 2: were uniformly unsuccessful. Remember, he went to court sixty times,

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Speaker 2: and all sixty times he lost, trying to prove some

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Speaker 2: kind of fraud in various states. So then they say

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Speaker 2: he pursued unlawful means. The first is conspiracy to defraud

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Speaker 2: the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct,

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Speaker 2: and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the

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Speaker 2: results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified

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Speaker 2: by the federal government. And then a conspiracy to corruptly

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Speaker 2: obstruct and impede the January sixth Congressional proceeding at which

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Speaker 2: the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified.

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Speaker 2: And finally, a conspiracy against the right to vote and

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Speaker 2: to have ones vote counted. And they mentioned the US

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Speaker 2: laws that were violated.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's going to be interesting to see how

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Speaker 1: many people on the inside at the White House it

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Speaker 1: will testify if it gets that far about what Trump

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Speaker 1: knew and thought, because I saw some discussion on one

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Speaker 1: of the channels today that there were a number of

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Speaker 1: people on his staff who said he knew he lost,

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Speaker 1: like privately, he was quite aware he was doing this

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Speaker 1: on purpose to create this this public storm, to create

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Speaker 1: some kind of climate where you know, he could be

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Speaker 1: reinstalled as president. So they're you know, much like in

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Speaker 1: the dominion case with Fox, the Fox hosts knew that

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Speaker 1: what Trump and his associates were selling were false but

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Speaker 1: they were trying to panther to their viewers. They were

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Speaker 1: afraid they'd lose their viewers to another network. So there

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Speaker 1: was there was There was a lot of people publicly

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Speaker 1: faking it in order to try to enrich themselves in

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Speaker 1: one way or the other. See if you know who

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Speaker 1: these people are. Co conspirators.

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Speaker 2: Co conspirator won an attorney who was willing to spread

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Speaker 2: knowingly false claims and pursue stresstrategies that the defendants twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty reelection campaign attorneys would not Could that be Giuliani?

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Speaker 1: Or that could be Giuliani and they could east Sidney Powell,

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Speaker 1: oh cost period two is an attorney who devised an

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Speaker 1: attempted to implement a strategy to leverage the vice president's

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Speaker 1: ceremonial role.

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Speaker 2: Overseeing the certification proceeding to obstruct the certification of the

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Speaker 2: presidential election. Now, was that the John Eastman thing that

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Speaker 2: he could be Oh, by the way, there's like their

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Speaker 2: six co conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean you know, probably Giuliani would be

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Speaker 1: in there, I guess.

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Speaker 2: And I think you're right about Sidney Powell. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean because the Eastman is probably one of the

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Speaker 2: were out there publicly. And I just saw the other

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Speaker 2: day that Giuliani had to admit in another court that

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Speaker 2: what he was selling was was nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Oh he did, Yeah, there was, there was. There was

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Speaker 1: another case where he had to like raise the flag

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Speaker 1: and admit that he was full of it. They did,

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Speaker 1: you know, they did this knowingly. I mean, that's what's

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Speaker 1: really bizarre. It's not these people were misinformed or they

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Speaker 1: were blinded by some political agenda they were on. They

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Speaker 1: actually knew it was factually wrong. They just wanted to

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Speaker 1: see if they could pull it off.

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Speaker 2: Co Conspirator four is a Justice Department official who worked

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Speaker 2: on civil matters and attempted to use the Justice Department

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Speaker 2: to open sham election crime investigations and influenced state legislators.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure who that is. Obviously, William Barr, who

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Speaker 2: was the Attorney General, was not a part of this.

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Speaker 2: As far as I can see. He was not really

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Speaker 2: too happy with what Trump was doing. Co Conspirator five

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Speaker 2: is another attorney who assisted in devising and attempting to

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Speaker 2: implement a plan to submit fraudulent slate subpresidential electors. We've

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Speaker 2: talked about that, we don't know who that attorney is

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Speaker 2: yet for sure. And co conspirator six, a political consultant

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Speaker 2: who helped implement the plan to submit fraudulent slate subpresidential

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Speaker 2: electors to obstruct the certification.

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Speaker 1: Those now, those six are going to be charged.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't say it just lists them as co conspirators.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't say indicted or unindicted, right, yep, It just

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Speaker 2: mentions them as co conspirators in the case. So maybe

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Speaker 2: they will be charged in a separate indictment.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have gigantic legal bills if they actually

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Speaker 1: get indicted, right, These people are going to get sunk.

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Speaker 2: Right, And then it goes to the manner and means

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Speaker 2: of the case. Basically, it was about trying to change

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Speaker 2: the election results and change electoral votes for the defendant,

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Speaker 2: and there you go. That's the big part of the case.

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Speaker 2: So we're expecting, we believe a statement from Jack Smith,

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Speaker 2: of course, is the Special Council that's behind this indictment

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Speaker 2: of former President Trump that just came out this hour,

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Speaker 2: So we'll pick up whatever he has to say if

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