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Speaker 1: Yo, Welcome to a new episode of fish Bites. I

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Speaker 1: am Eli Sussman, Managing editor at fish Stripes. You know

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Speaker 1: me in this hour. This week, Ethan Bodowski from the

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Speaker 1: Fish Stripe staff made a really entertaining guest appearance on

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Speaker 1: the Painting Corners podcast, summarizing all the key developments from

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Speaker 1: the twenty nineteenth season, the early returns from the Marlins

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Speaker 1: rebuilding raids, and more so. I took a big excerpt

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Speaker 1: from that interview, and we're going to queue it up shortly.

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Speaker 1: Most of this episode you're going to be listening to

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Speaker 1: him and his analysis. A bit of a different perspective

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Speaker 1: than my own, but a lot of great points that

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Speaker 1: he made about where the organization is heading and what

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Speaker 1: The first order of business, I will run through a

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Speaker 1: variety of news items affecting the Marlins. The worst kept

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Speaker 1: secret right now about the team is that they will

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Speaker 1: be adding some sort of veteran outfielder this offseason. Two

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Speaker 1: years running, ever since those rebuilding trades started, they've had

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Speaker 1: the least productive outfield in Major League Baseball. It's time

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Speaker 1: to change that. Some great prospects coming up through the system,

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Speaker 1: right now, they have been quote linked to a handful

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Speaker 1: of big names. What I mean by linked reporters showing

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Speaker 1: They've been linked to Nicholas Costellanos of Asaiyel Garcia, Marcelo

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Speaker 1: zuna old friend David Peralta Yasiel Puigue, and Japan's Yoshitomo Sutsugo,

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Speaker 1: but no substantial talks for the time being about those guys.

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Speaker 1: If I was to handicap it, the most likely match

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Speaker 1: those would be Marcelo Zuna bringing him back, considering that

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Speaker 1: That'd be a trade scenario, as suggested by Craig Mish,

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Speaker 1: saying that Peralta or similar type players that are near

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Speaker 1: organization that are playing ball in winter Ball, we have

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Speaker 1: updates every single week on fish Stripes, the series called

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Speaker 1: Off Season Fish, summing up what's happening overseas at this point,

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Speaker 1: all these off season leagues in the Caribbean or even

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Speaker 1: further away, as I'll get into. The big story to

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Speaker 1: this point has probably been leywin Diez in the Dominican

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Speaker 1: Republic for Astraeus Orientalis. He has been there every day

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Speaker 1: He has started every single game of their Dominican League

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Speaker 1: Missed a little bit of time earlier in the season

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Speaker 1: If you look at the entire year, what's equivalent to

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Speaker 1: With the Marlins in Puerto Rico also playing some Winter

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Speaker 1: And finally, in the news roundup segment, why don't you

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Speaker 1: You remember the ill fated Miami Beach Bowl that was

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Speaker 1: If you want a really thorough breakdown of how exactly

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Speaker 1: out an article from Wells Dousonberry of The Sun Sentinel

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Speaker 1: gonna be resuming the Ultimate Marlins Depth Charts series, which

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Speaker 1: both Major leaguers and all levels of prospects in their organization.

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Speaker 1: Moving forward, we'd cover the pitchers, the catchers, first baseman.

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Speaker 1: We're going to turn it over to the Painting Corners

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Speaker 1: Podcast a big excerpt from their most recent episode featuring

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Speaker 1: our own Ethan Bodowski, hosted by Austin Hartsfield and Dave

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Speaker 4: All Right, So time for the Marlins offseason preview. Ethan.

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Speaker 4: Marlins finished fifty seven and five. They finished with a

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Speaker 5: I thought, overall it was a good year for the Marlins.

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Speaker 5: A good year too. They put a really really nice

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Speaker 5: It was nice to see isan Diez make his way

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Speaker 5: But overall, it was just a growth year for the franchise,

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Speaker 5: You know, you're not going to take much from the

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Speaker 5: because this team isn't the roster. The way it was

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Speaker 5: the eternal optimist, but I thought that swinging Nider out

432
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 5: of that deal was pretty good. But yeah, I mean,

433
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 5: you definitely lose. You know, there was a huge hole

434
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 5: at second base left by d and there was a

435
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 5: huge hole in the locker room that was left by D.

436
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: But hopefully with the hopefully, you know, Isan can be

437
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 5: what we think he is and he can kind of

438
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 5: fill that void.

439
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: What kind of run me through us? On Dias?

440
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 5: Oh man? Well, I mean, where where do I start?

441
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 5: He had such a good year in Triple A. I

442
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 5: mean every night he was just launching the ball. I

443
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 5: think he hit near around thirty home runs this year.

444
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 5: He was really just spectacular to watch this year. And

445
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 5: his defense is something that kind of surprised me. But yeah,

446
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 5: it seemed like every night at one point in the summer,

447
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 5: it just seemed like every night he was just hitting

448
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 5: a home run or going two for four with a double,

449
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 5: or making a sweet play out at second base. So

450
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 5: the kid hits for a ton of power. He hit.

451
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 5: He slugged five seventy eight in Triple A this year. Obviously,

452
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 5: we saw what happened with the offense in Triple A

453
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 5: this year, so those numbers might be inflated just a

454
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 5: little bit, but his slash was three h five three

455
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 5: ninety five, five seventy eight. He had a one thirty

456
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 5: way to runs creative plus, so just an absolutely spectacular year.

457
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 5: He draws a lot of walks, which is what I

458
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 5: absolutely love about him as a really great approach, and

459
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 5: you saw that when he came up to the minor.

460
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 5: When he came up to the majors, he walked at

461
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 5: almost a ten percent clip and was striking out under

462
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 5: thirty percent and even though the numbers might not reflect

463
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 5: how good he looked. His approach looked really advanced for

464
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 5: a young kid his age, and he always kind of

465
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 5: takes time at a new level to adjust, Like when

466
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 5: he got to Jacksonville. When he first got into the system,

467
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 5: he started really slow out of the gates and then

468
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 5: got really hot, to the point where they sent him

469
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 5: to New Orleans at the end of his first year

470
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 5: with US. And then the same thing happened this year

471
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 5: where he kind of struggled out of the gates, was

472
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 5: hitting under the Mendoza line in like May, and then

473
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 5: just came out swinging and started tearing the cover off

474
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 5: the ball and put up those numbers that I just

475
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 5: read off. So really just an exciting prospect left handed,

476
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 5: sweet swinging. You know, everybody says that the swing kind

477
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 5: of looks like Robbie Cano, and if you look at it,

478
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 5: it really kind of does look like Robbie Cano. I'm

479
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 5: not sure he'll I think that's pretty much the ceiling

480
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 5: for him. But I think another a good comparison my

481
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 5: buddy on the podcast Ian Smith made was he said,

482
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 5: Ian Kinsler, and I think that's probably like the most

483
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 5: likely scenario I would say, if it, you know, if

484
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 5: it doesn't completely go south. But I I the comparison,

485
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 5: the ultimate comparison for this kid is is Robbie Cano

486
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 5: and just a sweet swinging, left handed hitter that can

487
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: get on base and play really good defense out at

488
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 5: second base.

489
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I think anybody you know growing up

490
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: in Texas good will tell you that Ian Kins was

491
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: a pretty damn good comp for a second basement.

492
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, no, for sure. You know, if if that's

493
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 5: how it works out, if that's your worst case scenario,

494
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 5: then you've got a really nice player with thean. But

495
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 5: you know, he's gonna have to take some strides because

496
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 5: he did struggle to make contact in the bigs. But

497
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 5: he's so he's gonna have to take some strides next year.

498
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 5: But I'm not worried about him because, like I said,

499
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 5: he takes a while to adjust at new levels usually, so.

500
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: All right, So.

501
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: Moving to shore in the Marlins twenty nineteen Heart and

502
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 4: Hustle Award winner Miguil Rojas. One thing that sticks out

503
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 4: to me when looking at his hats was his defensive

504
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 4: war stat which was twelve point six, which is top

505
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 4: ten and all of baseball, and just give me your

506
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 4: thoughts on his season.

507
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 5: I love Mickey Roe. He is the heart and soul

508
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 5: of the team. He really is. And when we extended him,

509
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 5: I was just really happy because he is the perfect

510
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 5: guy from this era of Marlins baseball that should carry

511
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 5: over into the next one when all these young guys

512
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 5: come up. He'll be the perfect kind of veteran leader

513
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 5: in the clubhouse. He can, you know, play all around

514
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 5: the infield, and like you said, I mean he plays

515
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 5: gold glove defense out. You know, he'll never get the

516
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 5: recognition for it, but he plays really stellar defense at shortstop.

517
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 5: And he had some really nice moments with the bat

518
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 5: this year, really some good stretches. So I love MIGGI Rowe.

519
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 5: I'm glad we kept him around. I thought he had

520
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 5: a really nice season and he earned himself the extension,

521
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 5: and he earned himself a chance to be, like I said,

522
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 5: the the carryover from this age of Marlins baseball to

523
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 5: what is coming and what we all expect to be

524
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 5: just the next great age of the franchise here.

525
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: So looking under him in the farm, obviously you got

526
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: Jazz Chisholm. Yeah, the prospect acquired and the Gallon trade,

527
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: so we can jump into that real quick.

528
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 5: Gallon was pretty good. Around the time of.

529
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 4: The trade, How did you feel about the trade and

530
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 4: compared to how do you feel now?

531
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 5: I'll tell you exactly where I was. I was in

532
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 5: the line at PDQ, and it was I was going

533
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 5: into work and it was probably like what like two

534
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 5: thirty three o'clock on deadline day, and so I'm waiting

535
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 5: for the Marlins to do something, waiting and waiting and waiting,

536
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 5: and then I see that, you know, Gallon to the DBAs,

537
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 5: and I just felt betrayed. Almost honestly, it felt like

538
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 5: what was starting, you know what everybody said the Marlins,

539
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 5: which we're gonna we're gonna do, which is all these

540
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 5: guys are gonna come up and then they're just gonna

541
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 5: ship them off and you know, fire sale and the

542
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 5: whole thing that Lauria did, and he really broke this,

543
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: broke this fan base, and it kind of felt that way.

544
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 5: The optics of the trade were really bad. But then

545
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 5: I kind of took a second to look at it

546
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 5: and I realized what the Marlins did, which is they

547
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 5: used their pitching surplus, which they had a ton of arms.

548
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 5: I mean, they still have some their system is loaded

549
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 5: with arms, and they use that surplus to go out

550
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 5: and fill avoid in the system, which is power. And

551
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 5: they got this kid Jazz who was really struggling with

552
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 5: in the Arizona system. Was hitting two of four and

553
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 5: then and had a seven thirty two OPS, and his

554
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 5: krate was through the roof. I mean, one hundred and

555
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 5: twenty three strikeouts over thirty percent krate. But then he

556
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: came to Jacksonville and was awesome and had a put

557
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 5: together an eight seventy seven OPS. Was hitting for power

558
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 5: all over the place, taking walks and he really kind

559
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 5: of cut the strikeouts down. So all of a sudden,

560
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: now you're looking at a top he's rated fifty four

561
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 5: on Pipeline. Right now you're looking at a top sixty

562
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 5: prospect for a guy that ultimately falls in line. Even

563
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 5: though he was awesome, I loved watching Gallon pitch. He

564
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 5: was awesome when he came up to the majors. When

565
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 5: you look deeper down the system, he probably fell in

566
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 5: line somewhere around four or five six, and you think

567
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 5: that he might be that next guy out, and you

568
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 5: look at what you got for him, and it looks

569
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 5: a lot more positive. So I thought the Marlins. You know,

570
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 5: as frustrating as it was to watch Gallon go, I

571
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 5: thought they did a really good job with that trade

572
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 5: and all the trades that they made at the deadline,

573
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 5: really because they had a huge problem with a lack

574
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: of power in the system and that has been completely

575
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 5: solved with the acquisitions of guys like Sanchez and Chisholm

576
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 5: and dz. So it gets a lot better when you

577
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 5: look at Jazz and then another guy. I don't know

578
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: if you guys want to talk about him, but is

579
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: is Jose Devers at shortstop? And yeah, yeah, this guy's

580
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: fun man. I mean he came over in the Stanton

581
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 5: trade and plays great defense and can hit the ball.

582
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 5: I mean he missed a lot of the year, but

583
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 5: he can really put the bat on the ball all across.

584
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 5: In forty seven games is here, he hit three twenty

585
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: two with a seven eighty one ops. And he is

586
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 5: nineteen years old. He is younger than I am, almost

587
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: a year younger than I am, And so this kid

588
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 5: is really really really exciting. And the way he plays

589
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 5: defense and the way that he can hit at such

590
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 5: an advanced he's in high A and he's putting those

591
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 5: numbers together is really impressive. So I thought the Marlins

592
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: did you know that Stanton trade? Obviously the Casher thing

593
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 5: didn't work out and it was more of a money

594
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 5: deal than anything, but Deverse was the real gem of

595
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 5: that trade for sure.

596
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: You know, he kind of went from jumping back to

597
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: his home for a second. He went from the jackson

598
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: Sons the Jacksonville jumble Shrimp like our friend Tommy Eield.

599
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll talk about later. Interesting character, yeah for sure,

600
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah sure. You know, I'm just trying to you know,

601
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: who sticks at shortstop? Can both of these guys play short?

602
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: Or do you think that somebody like Jazz winds up

603
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: playing second?

604
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 5: If anybody you know, if you're telling me, okay, only

605
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 5: one of these two guys sticks at short from a

606
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 5: defensive side, it's got to be diverse. He's a little

607
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: more advanced defensively. He's supposedly one of the best defensive prospects,

608
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 5: if not the best, in the system. But don't sell

609
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 5: Jazz short on his defense either. I mean, he's a

610
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: pretty solid defender out there from all accounts. So I

611
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 5: think those both of those guys really have a good

612
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 5: shot at staying at short. I'm trying to look down.

613
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 5: Osiris is another exciting shortstop prospect. Don't even get me

614
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 5: started on Nassim Nunez. I love that kid.

615
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

616
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 5: And then Jose Salis is a kid that's a little

617
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 5: bit farther away at shortstop from the international free agency market,

618
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 5: who you know we'll see coming, you know, slowly coming

619
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 5: up the tracks in the next few years here. But

620
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 5: the future at shortstop's pretty bright for the Marlins. But

621
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day right now,

622
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 5: because of what you gave up to get him, and

623
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 5: because of his stature as a top sixty prospect, you

624
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: have to hope that Jazz is the guy. Just from

625
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 5: an optic standpoint, you have to and don't be surprised

626
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 5: if a short if shortstop, when the Marlins are ready

627
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 5: to go out and get a big name, if shortstop

628
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 5: is the position that they go after. Uh, you know,

629
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 5: get not saying they're going to get Francisco Lindoor, but

630
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: a really trusted Marlins beat reporter Craig Mish has always

631
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 5: kind of hinted that it's not gonna happen, but it's

632
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 5: something that the Marlins would consider down the road. But

633
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna speculate on that at all, But I'm

634
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 5: just saying that shortstop is a position because of the

635
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 5: way that the roster construction currently breaks down, that the

636
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 5: Marlins could look into making a huge acquisition at you know,

637
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: two or three years from now.

638
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: I would say, where does Nunia's fall in your favorite

639
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: Marlins prospects and kind of why is he one of

640
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: those guys?

641
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 5: He's right up there. He's just lovable, man. I mean,

642
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 5: he just came in and young kid just has like

643
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 5: bright eyes that just he looks shell shocked every time

644
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 5: he walks into the ballpark, and he's got this swagger

645
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 5: about him that will really excite you as a Marlins fan.

646
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 5: I mean, he just has this like he's got like

647
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 5: drip almost, you know, every time he walks around, and

648
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 5: his Instagram is really is a fun follow, and him

649
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 5: and the boys down in the gcl are just always

650
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: chopping it up and looking like they're having a good

651
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 5: time and just looks like a kid that enjoys the

652
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 5: game and just does for the love of the pure

653
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 5: passion of the game. And he's really good at it.

654
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 5: I love slick fielding shortstops, and he didn't end up

655
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 5: his numbers don't look great at the end of the year,

656
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 5: but he started out hitting pretty well for an eighteen

657
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 5: year old out just out of high school. So he's

658
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 5: really an exciting prospect that the Marlins have. And you know,

659
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 5: he's way he's eighteen years old, he just gotf did

660
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 5: he hasn't even reached full season ball yet. But he's

661
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 5: a guy that definitely plays into the cards at shortstop

662
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: in the future for the Marlins. But you know, that's

663
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 5: three to four years from now.

664
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 3: I would say I have a feeling that this is everybody,

665
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: like probably fifty percent of Marlins fans favorite player. So

666
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: we're going to the hot corner. How good was Brian

667
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: Anderson this year?

668
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 5: Good? Good, really good. I mean he sold me like

669
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 5: I always kind of thought that third base was the

670
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 5: biggest hole because there's not a true third baseman. Like

671
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: if you look at our top thirty, there's not a

672
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 5: third basement listed on here, and I was kind of

673
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 5: afraid about the third base position and Anderson's ability to

674
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 5: stick there. Now, I'm not gonna say this, dude's like,

675
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 5: you know, a championship winning third baseman. I still believe

676
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 5: in the concept that you have to have you know,

677
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 5: a Nolan Aeronado, Chris Bryant, you know type at third base, Yeah,

678
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 5: Bregman Rendon, you know what I mean, at third base

679
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 5: to win, to win a championship. I still think third

680
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 5: base is one of the most important offensive positions out there.

681
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 5: And I don't think Brian Anderson is a championship winning

682
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 5: third baseman necessarily, but he's a guy that can hold

683
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 5: over that third that hot corner for the next few

684
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 5: years until you know, maybe the Marlins are ready to

685
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 5: make a jump. People get mad at me on Twitter

686
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 5: all the time for saying that BA you know, won't

687
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 5: be on this team if when they win a championship,

688
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 5: But he definitely earned himself the right to get a

689
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 5: shot at being the third basement of the future. I'm

690
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 5: still not one hundred percent sold, but I mean he's

691
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 5: gonna play third base for the next probably three to

692
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 5: five years for the Marlins unless they go out and

693
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 5: you know, third base is where they acquire a big name,

694
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So he's the guy going

695
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 5: forward right now because there, like I said, there is

696
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 5: nothing behind him in the system. There are a few,

697
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 5: you know, fringy draft prospects that just came up that

698
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 5: play third base, but nothing really serious yet in terms

699
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 5: of a guy that's going to come up and take

700
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 5: his spot, because there's just nothing in the system right

701
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 5: now to do.

702
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: So this outfield looks very different than it did three

703
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: years ago. Yeah, very Is it three now? Are we

704
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: did three years now?

705
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 5: Yeah? They got traded before the twenty seventeen season, Yeah,

706
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 5: eighteen that this would be the third year.

707
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: That was definitely the purd So let's kind of walk

708
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: back through some of these trades real quick before we

709
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: get into the current one. We're gonna leave the Yellows

710
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: trade last because I hate Lewis Brinson, so that's the

711
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: primary reason.

712
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 5: We'll get there. We'll get there.

713
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Ozuna Firse. Yeah, yeah, Alcantara back likely,

714
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: you know, a big pitching prospect for this as he

715
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: was pretty good. Like I like it. You know, you

716
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: get Sierra, then you get Gallon, who you wind up

717
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: trading for Chisholm, then he got Gistano. How did you

718
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: feel about that trade initially? And how do we feel

719
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 3: about it now?

720
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 5: It wasn't the headliner, you know, it's just the third

721
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 5: one was kind of the one. Yeah, it was definitely

722
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 5: kind of the one that flew under the radar, even

723
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 5: though maybe besides Stanton was so loved here. He was

724
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 5: so loved here, We loved Ozuna. We were so sad

725
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 5: to see him go, and he left with so much grace.

726
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 5: But you know, the the Sierra thing like went south

727
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 5: really fast, Like we were all really excited about Mags

728
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 5: and then he just kind of turned into like he

729
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 5: would be so good in two thousand and seven, you

730
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 5: know what I mean. But he's just not like he's

731
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 5: just not the kind of player that is really successful

732
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 5: in the MLB today because he doesn't hit for a

733
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 5: ton of power and he doesn't take a lot of walks.

734
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 5: But you know, when he gets on base, he can

735
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 5: use his speed so well. He's such a tremendous base runner.

736
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 5: Sandy I'll talk about in a second. Gallon we touched on.

737
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 5: I don't know too much about Castano, to be honest

738
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 5: with you, but Gallan, I mean, you flip, you turn

739
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 5: into jazz, which is great, and so ultimately the trade

740
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 5: is Sierra Jazz and Sandy for Ozuna, who's probably gonna

741
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 5: be out of Saint Louis this year. I mean, I

742
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 5: don't you know, really, he's free. He's yeah, he's gone.

743
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 5: So overall, I mean, you know that's not too bad.

744
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 5: Sandy is just electric. I mean he really is. And

745
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 5: you know, all the talk was the stuff and can

746
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 5: he put it all all together? And he didn't really

747
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 5: strike out a ton of guys this year, which was

748
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 5: really kind of weird considering how electric his stuff is.

749
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 5: But he just got the job done. Like he threw

750
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 5: a Maddox this year. He had like a complete game

751
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 5: on like eighty something eighty nine pitches.

752
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: Maybe fullest Baseball will appreciate you so much for that.

753
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was. He was great, man. I mean

754
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 5: he just just, like I said, just got the job done.

755
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 5: He pitched a full year, which was huge because he

756
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 5: was not healthy the year before. He had struggle with

757
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 5: some injury. But he played himself into a rotation spot

758
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 5: in the future because you know, all all everybody that

759
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 5: was kind of down on Sandy said that, you know,

760
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 5: he'll be a seventh inning guy and eighth inning guy.

761
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 5: But I mean, he just was tremendous this year, and

762
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 5: so I'm really really excited about Sandy. I think he

763
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: can totally put it all together and you know, still

764
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 5: be that two or that two. You know, maybe, I

765
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 5: mean with six sto coming, it's hard to say that

766
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 5: anybody besides him will be the ace in the system.

767
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, he can definitely play himself back into reaching

768
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 5: his ceiling. Fangrafts put out this article about his sinker.

769
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if you read it, but he started

770
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 5: using his sinker more in July. He really went away

771
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 5: from the fastball and started using the sinker, and his

772
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: fip was great, and his strikeout rate was up six percent.

773
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 5: And the sinker, the pitch shape and everything that they

774
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 5: talked about was just so much better than the fastball.

775
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 5: And that's when he really started finding his success was

776
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 5: down the stretch. So I'm excited for year three of Sandy.

777
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to seeing another, hopefully another full year

778
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 5: out of him and watching him continue to develop. So

779
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 5: you know, if he turns into that too, and a

780
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 5: Zuma's not in Saint Louis anymore, you know, all of

781
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 5: a sudden, he was sure he doesn't either, Yeah, exactly.

782
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 5: That trade doesn't look too bad either, So.

783
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: It's hard to say that you want a trade if

784
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: you don't get a title out of it. If you're

785
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 3: the contending uff.

786
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 5: For sure, for sure, No, it is, you know, especially

787
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 5: when with what the Cardinals tried to do. They tried

788
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 5: they needed a power bad and they brought in Azuna,

789
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 5: and you know, he was great there. Don't get me wrong,

790
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 5: I love Marcel. I've rooted for Marcel the entire way,

791
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 5: even though I absolutely.

792
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: Despise Grizzly Bear.

793
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: Yeah he is. He's just like a grizzly Bear. But

794
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 5: he just goes out there and he just has fun

795
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 5: and just enjoys the game. And you know, he makes

796
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: a fool out of himself sometimes in left field, but

797
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 5: I mean the kid, you know, he hits her a

798
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 5: ton of power and he's a good, solid hitter. Nobody

799
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: can underestimate how much of an impact Barry Bonds had

800
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 5: on him. That was his breakout season was when Bons

801
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 5: was the hitting coach here and that was twenty sixteen,

802
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 5: and since then he's just been a completely different ballplayer.

803
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 5: And so it was definitely sad to see him go.

804
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 5: And it would be awesome. It's not going to happen,

805
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 5: but free agent everybody wants to bring Ozuna back. It's

806
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 5: not going to happen. But you know, I success the

807
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 5: rest of the way, and I think the Marlins ultimately

808
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 5: did a pretty good job with that deal, just despite

809
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 5: the criticism, you know.

810
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well it's funny because that's I feel like

811
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: that's always going to be known as the third deal,

812
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 3: you know, absolutely. I mean, let's go to the let's

813
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: go to the first deal. Let's talk about the I

814
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: guess what everybody thought was the biggest one at the time,

815
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: which I think might actually provide maybe the worst return

816
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: maybe out of all it. And let's talk about the

817
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 3: Stanton deal, because I mean Castros.

818
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 5: For the Marlance or for the Yankees, for the Yankees, Yeah.

819
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for the Yankees. I mean, he's like

820
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: the most hated man in New York. And that's saying something.

821
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 5: I know, it's really upsetting. Oh boy, I love g

822
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 5: But anyway you were saying, but yeah.

823
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: You know, let's go ahead. We've already talked about Castros.

824
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: You just talked about Sandy somebody that else. Somebody else

825
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: that's probably gonna wind up in this rotation is Jorge Guzman,

826
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 3: who's in this deal. We've already touched on Devers kind

827
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: of walk us through Guzman and like, you know what

828
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: he means this organization right now.

829
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 5: Flame thrower. I mean, this dude is just straight heat

830
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 5: at all times. Flame thrower and the secondary stuff kind

831
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 5: of came along this year and the numbers got a

832
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 5: lot better. He's still walking a ton of guys, but

833
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 5: he really cleaned it up at the end of the year.

834
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: Like his end of the year was really really nice actually,

835
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: which is really just kind of you know, bodes well.

836
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 5: Like I always kept saying, he is going to do

837
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 5: everything he can to try and prove to the Marlins

838
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 5: that he can be a starter in the majors, because

839
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 5: that's all he knows how to do is just pitch

840
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 5: and be a starter. I mean, he put together some

841
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 5: really nice starts at the end of the year, and

842
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 5: he spent the full year in Jacksonville. I would expect

843
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 5: him to be up in New Orleans next year. The

844
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 5: walks have to come down. The walks have to come

845
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 5: down he or else because he just kind of like explodes,

846
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 5: like having a great outing through four or five and

847
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 5: then he'll just kind of have one inning where he'll

848
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 5: blow up, you know what I mean. And if he

849
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 5: doesn't have that inning where he blows up, then he's

850
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 5: absolutely fantastic. But if he does, then you know, it

851
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 5: gets tough with him. So that's why I still kind

852
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 5: of think that he plays as a reliever, and I

853
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 5: think that's there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Like the

854
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 5: one hundred mile hour fastball and pretty good secondary is

855
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 5: a nice slider and a changeup that's coming along, well,

856
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: that's gonna play tremendously out of the bullpen. So worst

857
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 5: case scenario for the Marlins, they found their closer of

858
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 5: the future. He's totally a guy that could be just

859
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 5: an elite closer because, like I said, he can be

860
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 5: really really good in short bursts, and that's all you

861
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 5: need out of a closer really is one inning, you know,

862
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 5: five outs sometimes and if he can do that consistently,

863
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 5: he But like I said, we shouldn't be talking about

864
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 5: this because George will tell you and he switch from

865
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 5: or heed George this year, he'll tell you probably that

866
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 5: he's gonna do everything he can to be a starter,

867
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 5: and he showed that in his performance at the end

868
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 5: of the year. So this is the year for him.

869
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 5: This coming year is the year for him. It's either

870
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 5: he pitches really well at the next level or if

871
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 5: he stays in Jacksonville, or he struggles and he heads

872
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 5: to the bullpen. Well know this year, whether he's going

873
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 5: to be projects to be in the rotation for the

874
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 5: Marlins in the future, or whether he's going to be

875
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 5: their closer of the future.

876
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: Are you telling me that two people that change there

877
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: to how people say their names, we're in the same deal.

878
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, right right at the beginning of the year,

879
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 5: he was like, Oh, by the way, my name is George,

880
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 5: not Hororgey. Yep. I did it, and I did it.

881
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 5: I said Hohorgey on the podcast the whole season. Oh really,

882
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 5: it's like how people It's like how people still call

883
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 5: the Chargers the San Diego Chargers, still call the Marlins

884
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 5: the Florida Marlins. I still call him horge all the time.

885
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: So you're not the first person to make that mistake

886
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 5: for sure.

887
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 3: How often does a trade go down in the centerpiece

888
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 3: of the trade is the worst player in the trade

889
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: when it comes down, Like I'm feeling me.

890
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 5: He means, you're calling standing the worst player.

891
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we're going to the Yellow's trade lost Princeton.

892
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: There's a reason that he's been traded five times. It

893
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: feels like five times.

894
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 5: At least, it doesn't happen very often, and it really doesn't.

895
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: It really doesn't.

896
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 5: It's so it's so upsetting because I love LB. I

897
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 5: love him. He's and he told us in the beginning

898
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 5: of the year he did. There are still moments where

899
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 5: you are like, God, that guy can do it, man,

900
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 5: But he's just you know, it just seems like another

901
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: Buxton or Broxton. You know, it's just the same kind

902
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 5: of thing. This athletic freak that has all the tools

903
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 5: to be a great baseball player and he gets to

904
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 5: the major leagues and he can't hurt it hit a

905
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 5: curve ball. So yeah, it's crazy how that happened right away,

906
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 5: where you got this kid coming in and he's your

907
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 5: opening day center fielder, replacing you know, one of the

908
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 5: new bases of the league in Christian Yelich and and

909
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 5: it just doesn't work out.

910
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: But the rest of it is great.

911
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, the rest of it is great. And what I

912
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 5: will say is it was really bad. It was really

913
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 5: really bad until the trade deadline this year. Because of

914
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 5: what the Marlins did to make up for the fact

915
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 5: that LB isn't going to pan out, and the depth

916
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 5: that they added to this outfield and the depth that

917
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 5: they added to the system. Especially with the draft and

918
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 5: the deadline, like the one two punch of the draft

919
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 5: in the deadline that they had, the Marlins are gonna

920
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 5: be all right. And as sad as it is to say,

921
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 5: Lewis Princeton doesn't seem to be part of the plans

922
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 5: of the future in this franchise, which if you told

923
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 5: me that two years ago, I would have called you crazy.

924
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was good enough.

925
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: It panned out.

926
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: He was good enough to be in deals for like

927
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 3: Jonathan Lucroy, who was very would contribute to that Texas

928
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: team at the time when he got traded in Milwaukee.

929
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: And Christian Yellows. So you're not a bad you know,

930
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: you fooled two different organizations, yea, and thinking that you

931
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 3: were good, you sure did.

932
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 5: And the other thing is like the the Brewers saw something,

933
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 5: you know, because the Marlins went after Vlatder Bishett. This

934
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 5: is you know, what is reported is that the Marlins

935
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 5: went after Vlatder Baschett because they knew what they had

936
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 5: with Yelich. But the Blue Jays wouldn't budge, so they

937
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 5: you know, they went after Acunya and their braves wouldn't budge.

938
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 5: And all credit to the Blue Jays and the Braves.

939
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 5: No matter how good Christian Yelich is for not budding

940
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 5: up on Acunya and on Vladdie and on Bashet, because

941
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 5: those guys are going to be tremendous. They're three of

942
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 5: the you know, faces of this new era of baseball.

943
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 5: But credit to the Brewers for saying, you know what

944
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 5: this is. This guy is somebody that we need. We

945
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 5: need to go after Christian Yelich. He can take the

946
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 5: next step here. He can become that thirty power you know,

947
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 5: that thirty home run hitter that a lot of people saw.

948
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 5: He can. You know, I'm not saying I thought he

949
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 5: was gonna be an MVP perennial MVP candidate and hit

950
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 5: three twenty and slug seven hundred every year because I didn't.

951
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 5: I can't believe it's the case. But I knew he

952
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 5: had thirty home run potential. Every Marlins fan that watched

953
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 5: him will tell you that he had thirty home run potential.

954
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 5: And you know, and now all of a sudden, you know,

955
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 5: Lewis Brinston is what you get back, And it's tough,

956
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 5: but from the a Brewer's standpoint, it's great because you

957
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 5: took that risk. You said Yeah, we might be giving

958
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 5: up on this, on this Printon guy, and maybe he

959
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 5: turns out to be great, but our guy, the guy

960
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 5: that we want, is going to be better. And look

961
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 5: at how that worked out for him, you know, two

962
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 5: playoff appearances because of him in a row for a

963
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 5: franchise that was just kind of whittling in mediocrity for

964
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 5: a long time.

965
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we already talked about Brentson, We've already talked

966
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: about Diaz Monte. Harrison is the heard four pieces. Oh good,

967
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: Harrison guy.

968
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 5: This is my guy right here, like number one guy.

969
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 5: We spoke to him at the beginning of the season

970
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 5: before all the injuries went down, when he was and

971
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 5: he was hot. He was on fire when we talked

972
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 5: to him. And he is just the most down to

973
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 5: earth guy that you could ever talk to. All about faith,

974
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 5: all about family. His brother is Shaq Harrison, who's in

975
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 5: the NBA, and so he just comes from He's just

976
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 5: got athlete in his blood and he's just a pure athlete.

977
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 5: He's a dog. He played high school. Uh, he played

978
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 5: football in high school. I think he was like a

979
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 5: high recruit in high school and and the kids just

980
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 5: a baller. He's got swag. He wears the chain he won,

981
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 5: button's on, buttoned, he's got the white arm sleeve in

982
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 5: the white cleats, and he just has the makings of

983
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 5: a ball player, you know, and really kind of had

984
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 5: a tough year in Jacksonville when he first came into

985
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 5: the system and Kate a ton and and that kind

986
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 5: of suggested to me, all right, they'll just run it

987
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 5: back and you know, have him go to Jacksonville. But

988
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 5: clearly the Marlins saw something in him because they sent

989
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 5: him up to New Orleans this year and he tore

990
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 5: the cover up the ball put together a really really

991
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 5: nice year with an ops right around eight hundred hit

992
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 5: for power, and he kind of had this new approach

993
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 5: that he implemented in the Fall League last year when

994
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 5: he went to Arizona and there wasn't a ton of

995
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 5: power coming from it. So coming into the year, we

996
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 5: were like, will Monte tap back into that power we

997
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 5: all know he has and he did. He hit nine

998
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 5: home runs in fifty six games this year, so it

999
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 5: Kime's really good. He is going to have to cut

1000
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 5: the strikeouts. He's going to struggle with strikeouts early in

1001
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 5: his MLB career, but if he can hit the ball hard,

1002
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 5: which is all he does. When he puts the bat

1003
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 5: on the ball, he hits the ball hard and it

1004
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 5: goes really far. And he's a good defender because he's

1005
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 5: so athletic and he's got a great arm. He's gonna

1006
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 5: be a really good ballplayer for the Marlin And I

1007
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 5: am so excited. I cannot I'm drooling over Monte. I

1008
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 5: cannot wait until he gets up to the Biggs because

1009
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 5: I will be at his debut and I'll be in

1010
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 5: on Monte Harrison Jersey. So I love this kid. I

1011
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 5: can talk about him all day. I talked about him

1012
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 5: all year on the pod, and like I said, just

1013
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 5: a great kid that's easy to root for, which is

1014
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 5: what a lot what what's happening a lot around this

1015
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 5: Marland's organization right now is good kids that are just

1016
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 5: easy to root for. And I think Monte. You know,

1017
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 5: obviously Brinson was the face of the deal, and Isan

1018
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 5: has emerged and Yams will get to in a second

1019
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 5: is awesome, but Monte's the jam of the deal, no

1020
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 5: doubt about it, just because of the presidents that he'll

1021
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 5: bring and also because I just think he's gonna be

1022
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: a good ball player.

1023
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Yams. You know, great first half and

1024
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 3: how to see project.

1025
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 5: I was so surprised with his performance when he came up,

1026
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 5: because I know, I knew the kid was good. He was.

1027
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 5: He dealt last year. He had a great year last

1028
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 5: year and then struggled a little bit in Jacksonville this year.

1029
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 5: He's like he's Kyle Hendrix. I mean, he's not as

1030
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 5: good as Kyle Hendrix, don't get me wrong, but it's similar.

1031
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 5: You know, the makeup is similar. Just not gonna blow

1032
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 5: the fastball by you, but he's gonna put it in

1033
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 5: a spot where you just simply can't hit it. And

1034
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 5: the change up is great, the curveball is great. It's wicked,

1035
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 5: and he's just got the stuff that can just play.

1036
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 5: You know, he's not gonna overpower you, like so many

1037
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 5: of these pitchers nowadays are and in the Marlins have

1038
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 5: a lot of those guys in the system. But he's

1039
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 5: just gonna, you know, pitch his way. He's just a

1040
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 5: good pitcher. Does he project as the ace the two,

1041
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 5: even the three? No? Probably not. You know, some people

1042
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 5: like Eli, who's our editor at Fist Strips, is kind

1043
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 5: of lower on him than I am. He thinks he

1044
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 5: kind of plays as like a journeyman arm, you know,

1045
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 5: back and forth between triple A and you know, but

1046
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 5: I think he's I think he can play into the

1047
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: rotation very well at the back end. I think he's

1048
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 5: got a future in the organization for sure, because he's

1049
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 5: just got it's just pitchability with him, Like you can

1050
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 5: just throw his pitches where he wants to and strike

1051
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 5: you out. And I was impressed with the strikeout numbers

1052
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 5: when he got up to the bigs. He was striking

1053
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 5: out a ton of guys. So I think Yams can play.

1054
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 5: You know, he's not going to be the number one,

1055
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 5: the number two, but I think he's a guy that

1056
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 5: can definitely hang around in this rotation for a long time.

1057
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 5: You know. But with the arms that are down there,

1058
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 5: you know, he is a guy that could definitely get

1059
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 5: passed over just because of the amount of talent that's

1060
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 5: still yet to come up to the bigs.

1061
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 3: For the Marlins, I mean, we kind of hit all

1062
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: those trades. Now, that was pretty that was pretty fun.

1063
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 5: Those deals were crazy, man. I mean when that was

1064
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 5: all going down, it was just like learning new names,

1065
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 5: you know, figuring out where this guy slots into the organization.

1066
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 5: You know, is this is this one of the guys

1067
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 5: in the future. You know, is here? Is he not

1068
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 5: a top one hundred prospect, you know what I mean?

1069
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 5: Like and and and it was so tough because of

1070
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 5: the noise that was all around. And you know, I

1071
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 5: was obviously always a big proponent of this rebuild, so

1072
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Speaker 5: I kind of had to play you know that, just relaxed.

1073
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Speaker 3: Just Twitter all the time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. No, it's tough, man. It's so hard because people

1075
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 5: get so angry. And and like I said, like earlier,

1076
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Speaker 5: like Luria really broke this fan base. I mean, he

1077
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Speaker 5: really did. Nobody trust this team anymore. But coming back,

1078
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Speaker 5: it's starting to happen again. People are starting to kind

1079
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Speaker 5: of see what's going on down in Miami.