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Speaker 1: Oh, welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. Good news on

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Speaker 1: the economy this morning. If you're just joining us. Three

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Speaker 1: percent growth, it exceeded the expectations of the so called experts.

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Speaker 1: We are nearing yet again another record high in the

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Speaker 1: stock market. Second quarter wage growth also, based on the

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Speaker 1: evidence and data that I have seen, has been outgrowing

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Speaker 1: cost of goods. That is the number one if I

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Speaker 1: had to point to one economic sort of bell weather,

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Speaker 1: it would be is your average wage increasing more than

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Speaker 1: the cost of goods. That is a sign that you

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Speaker 1: end up with more money in your pocket than you

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Speaker 1: used to. Under Biden for almost his entire time in office,

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Speaker 1: that was not true.

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Speaker 2: Under Trump.

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Speaker 1: In this most recent quarter of three percent growth, that

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Speaker 1: is becoming true. I think it is likely to continue.

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Speaker 1: And that is when COVID hit to take you back

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Speaker 1: into February of twenty twenty. By basically every economic measure,

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Speaker 1: the country had never been stronger than it was in

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Speaker 1: February of twenty twenty when all of that happened. So

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Speaker 1: that is good news that came out. We will await

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Speaker 1: further news. I believe the Fed is the FED is

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Speaker 1: announcing next hour. I think I'm right on this team.

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Speaker 1: Make sure that I am correct on this. What they

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Speaker 1: are going to do with interst rates. Expectations are that

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Speaker 1: they will not be changing anything with interest rates, but

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Speaker 1: there is an expectation that there will be two interst

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Speaker 1: So that would mean your mortgages, your car interest to loans,

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Speaker 1: big news I would say of the day of an

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Speaker 1: economic perspective. That's where we started off the show. Encourage

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Speaker 1: there two o'clock today we will in the East Coast,

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Speaker 1: so about an hour from now we will hear from

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Speaker 1: Jerome Powell FED Reserve chairman to FED Board chairman to

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Speaker 1: Two other stories are going to dive into some in

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Speaker 1: this hour. One reports, and I'm going to read up

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Speaker 1: it from Fox News that cash Patel has found document

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Speaker 1: and it's relating to Russia collusion that they were trying

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Speaker 1: Significant news, and so far it has not gotten as

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Speaker 1: much attention. But we all know midterms are coming up

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Speaker 1: and every state out there to a large extent, has

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Speaker 3: And you'll see that this is just pure power politics

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Speaker 3: and Democrats will cry about it. Meanwhile, they do it

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Speaker 3: what goes on now is it's like country's drawing lines

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Speaker 3: it jerry mandering. And you're supposed to be very upset

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, judges are getting really picky about

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Speaker 1: Clay Well, and if you want to point to something

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Speaker 1: And to your point, that's because of Democrat roadblocks. I

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Speaker 1: talking about federal district court judges. I'm talking about circuit

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Speaker 1: to your point, US attorneys as well, and I think

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Speaker 4: But it's just for.

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Speaker 3: People who are going to say, and I know I'm

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Speaker 3: but they're already doing unprecedented things by jamming up the

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Speaker 3: That's what's supposed to happen. They're not letting that happen.

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Speaker 3: And of course the hashtag resistance judiciary and now US

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Speaker 3: I'm with Trump on this one. I think you got

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And Senator Mike Lee, it's one hundred and thirty five,

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Speaker 1: needs to start to contemplate. I think recess appointments, which

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure there is a.

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Speaker 1: Logic behind that, but when you've got one hundred and

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Speaker 2: This is something that is that needs to be rectified.

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Speaker 4: Clay.

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Speaker 3: Also, I've got here there's a response from Senator Chuck Grassley.

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Speaker 3: He is quote offended and disappointed by the tirade that

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Speaker 3: So you know this is already getting more attention Chuck,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Okay, there

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Speaker 3: Look, this is one of these I hope that my

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Speaker 3: And people keep writing into me. They'll say like treason,

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Speaker 1: worried about burning because I was concerned about what the

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Speaker 1: impact might be, I'm going to start the process of

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Speaker 1: burning it and not compete complete it. To your point,

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Speaker 1: it is a level of incompetence that I find staggering

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Speaker 1: to believe could occur. And again, I think a lot

443
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Speaker 1: of you are out there and you're just of the

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Speaker 1: opinion as it pertains to Russia collusion or Epstein or

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Speaker 1: anything else in that universe. Hey go ahead and put

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Speaker 1: some people in handcuffs and let's see some arrest, Let's

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Speaker 1: see some charges brought and on the Epstein thing on

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Speaker 1: this Julane Maxwell Engelbuck. It's now pivoted to hey, maybe

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Speaker 1: we should pardon her. So the only person who is

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Speaker 1: actually in prison for anything related to Epstein, that the

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Speaker 1: whole Epstein universe. It just spirals out of control and

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Speaker 1: one conspiracy builds on top of another. I will confess

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Speaker 1: to everyone. I never thought the Epstein angle would go

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Speaker 1: from where we were about I don't know a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, to hey, the only person who is in

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Speaker 1: prison for committing crimes relating to Epstein, it's Julane Maxwell.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she should be pardoned and let out of prison

458
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Speaker 1: so that nobody ever has any responsibility here, and you

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Speaker 1: were out. I think I did mention this, and I

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Speaker 1: think this is a failure of media in general. And

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people out there don't know it.

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Speaker 1: You know it because I think we've talked about it

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Speaker 1: off air, but I don't know that we've talked about

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Speaker 1: it on air. People say, what about all the Epstein victims?

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Speaker 1: I mean, do they not demand justice? All these things?

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Speaker 1: Around five hundred million dollars was paid out to the

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Speaker 1: women who said I was abused by Epstein by his estate,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, nobody talks about those payouts. But around

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty some odd women came forward and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: I was a victim of Epstein. Here is my story.

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Speaker 1: And roughly five hundred million dollars from the Epstein estate

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Speaker 1: and a couple of different big investment banks that were

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Speaker 1: associated with him paid out damages to those women. So

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Speaker 1: people say, well, what about all these women, They're not

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Speaker 1: getting their stories. Still, around one hundred and thirty ish

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Speaker 1: of them came forward and said, hey, I am a victim.

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Speaker 1: Here is my story. And the estate paid out over

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Speaker 1: nearly five hundred million dollars in damages. So many of

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Speaker 1: these women got paid millions of dollars. Civilly Julane Maxwell

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Speaker 1: went to prison. Epstein probably would have, but there's only

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Speaker 1: one person in prison. I'm a little bit surprised that

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Speaker 1: the topic now is, oh, maybe Trump should pardon Maxwell,

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Speaker 1: and now she's negotiating to talk in front of Congress.

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Speaker 2: But all those things. Can I just say this strange?

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Speaker 3: Bringing it back to this story about about FBI Director

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Speaker 3: Patel finding these thousands of pages of sensitive documents, Well,

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Speaker 3: if it's thousands of pages, I don't think anybody knows

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Speaker 3: what's in the documents? Really sensitive documents just means they're

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Speaker 3: more classified. And if you work inside of a classified facility,

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Speaker 3: let me tell you a lot of people classify what

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Speaker 3: they had for lunch yesterday. They shouldn't, but they do,

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Speaker 3: just because it becomes habit if you're a classification originator.

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Speaker 3: So everything the FBI is working on is going to

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Speaker 3: be mark secret or more confidential, or whatever it may be.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sure there's a lot of classified documents in burnbags.

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Speaker 3: Does any of it have any again, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I can't see, but I don't want. This is clearly

498
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Speaker 3: a story that is going to get people thinking, oh wait,

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Speaker 3: maybe now we've got it.

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Speaker 4: We got it.

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Speaker 3: We got to pump the brakes. All of them said,

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Speaker 3: is pump the brakes. We don't know if we have

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Speaker 3: anything with this yet. I believe that there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of sensitive stuff. That's a lot of i should say

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Speaker 3: classified stuff that has been found in burn bags that

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Speaker 3: may relate to Russia collusion. Is that going to tell

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Speaker 3: us anything we don't already even know. We'll see thousands

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Speaker 3: of pages would take some time to read through, right,

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Speaker 3: thousands of pages is not something you can scan and

510
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Speaker 3: just go, oh, yeah, I know what's going on here.

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Speaker 3: So we'll we'll have to give a little bit of

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Speaker 3: time to this one. But again, on the Russia collusion thing,

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Speaker 3: the I think the transparency aspect of it is important,

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Speaker 3: and I think that also harassing the people involved at

515
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Speaker 3: some level with the process, because this is what they

516
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Speaker 3: do to us all the time. If you want to

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Speaker 3: raise the temperature, if you want to raise the cost

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Speaker 3: of what they did, at least make them go through

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Speaker 3: the process of explaining why it's not criminal, you know,

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Speaker 3: put them in front of put them in front of

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Speaker 3: members of Congress, put them in front of these Do you.

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Speaker 1: Think it shame behavior in the agencies?

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Speaker 4: Can you do?

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Speaker 1: You? Do you think that this story because I think

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Speaker 1: I think the odds of there being substantial punishments are low.

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Speaker 1: I do retrospectively, but I do think prospectively, if people

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Speaker 1: start thinking, hey, we've got to be careful about how

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Speaker 1: we analyze politics inside of these agencies, maybe there is

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Speaker 1: more of a less of an aggressive political bin. Do

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Speaker 1: you buy that it's changing the culture? I guess inside

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Speaker 1: of these agencies.

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Speaker 3: This is a wimpy answer, but I think it's the

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Speaker 3: correct answer, which is just too soon, too soon to tell.

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Speaker 3: I think the efforts are in earnest underway right now

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Speaker 3: to do that. But these are after These are vast organizations.

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Speaker 3: Think of it like if you're trying to root out

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Speaker 3: all the Communists in a state school with tens of

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Speaker 3: thousands of students and professors, and you know it's it's

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Speaker 3: these are big entities. These are noth but you know

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Speaker 3: the I mean the FBI number, for example, I think

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Speaker 3: is how many FBI agents. I know DJ has one

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand employees or one hundreds.

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Speaker 1: When we visited the CIA, I was just stunned by

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Speaker 1: the sheer in Normandy.

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Speaker 4: It is. It is massive.

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Speaker 3: That's told Clay it felt like going to work at

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Speaker 3: Langley every day. You know, when you see it in

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Speaker 3: the spy movies and stuff, it's all like hey, and

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Speaker 3: now you're in the director's office and there's like five

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Speaker 3: people making all the decisions. Showing up to Langley is

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Speaker 3: like showing up to Giant Stadium. There's parking lots, there's

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Speaker 3: like parking lots you know, X, Y and Z that

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Speaker 3: are like a mile walk from the building. Because there's

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Speaker 3: so many freaking people who work there, so changing the

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Speaker 3: culture of these places is really complicated, and.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what ends up happening. By the way, we'll

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Speaker 1: take some of your calls, some of your talkbacks. I

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Speaker 1: think we're going to have Senator Mike Lee in the

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Speaker 1: third hour to talk to us about the procedural issues

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Speaker 1: in the Senate, and Tommy Laerin from OutKick Get Your Popcorn.

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Speaker 1: She has been firing on all fronts. We are confirmed

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Speaker 1: with Senator Mike Lee, Utah and to join us top

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Speaker 1: of the third hour, so we'll get some answers from

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Speaker 1: him about what exactly is going on with the log

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Speaker 1: jam in.

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Speaker 3: Tommy's going to speak to us about the discrimination that

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Speaker 3: good looking blonde women are facing right now.

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Speaker 1: And it's just very sad that what beauty privilege doesn't

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Speaker 1: exist anymore. What's it like to be called a Nazi

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Speaker 1: because you have blonde hair and blue eyes. Tommy is

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Speaker 1: going to speak out on this, and I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to see. Look all the discussion out there about planning

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Speaker 1: and all the time that you spend that I spend

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Speaker 1: that anybody out there who's got kids or grandkids spends

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Speaker 1: trying to make sure that the next generation does better

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Speaker 1: than you have. That they have opportunities you didn't have,

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Speaker 1: that they are able to achieve things that you might

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Speaker 1: not have. You want to give them everything that you

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Speaker 1: can to allow them to succeed. That's honestly a huge

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Speaker 1: part of being a parent and a grandparent is trying

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Speaker 1: to ensure that your kids and grandkids are able, hopeful

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Speaker 1: to have successes that you yourself were not able to have.

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Speaker 1: You thought about how passing is going to challenge the

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Speaker 1: dynamics of your family. I know it's sometimes an uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: conversation to get into because no one likes to think

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Speaker 1: about wills or trusts or what's going to happen after

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Speaker 1: we're gone.

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Speaker 2: But how much time do you spend as a.

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Speaker 1: Mom, as a dad, as a grandma, as a grandpa

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Speaker 1: trying to mediate family disputes? How often do the cousins

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Speaker 1: or the siblings or your relatives, How often do they

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Speaker 1: end up not getting along? Do you worry about where

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Speaker 1: people are going to sit around Thanksgiving? Do you worry

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Speaker 1: that there might not be a peacemaker when you're gone?

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Speaker 1: Why not try and avoid all of that controversy by

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Speaker 1: letting your family know exactly what you want, exactly what

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Speaker 1: you desire for different heirlooms inside of the house or

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Speaker 1: different assets. Tell them in your will, in your trust

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Speaker 1: what you chose. Don't leave it to them to fight

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Speaker 1: it out. Tiny percentages, unfortunately of people, small percentages of

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Speaker 1: people have actually gone through this process. I have a will,

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Speaker 1: I have a trust. Hopefully it's not going to be

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Speaker 3: going to be taking some big guests on in the

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Speaker 3: next hour. Senator Mike Lee of Utah will be with us,

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Speaker 3: and then Tommy Laren Fox Newses and outkicks on. Tommy Laren,

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Speaker 3: who is going to speak on behalf of the maligned

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Speaker 3: attractive blonde Ladies of America.

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Speaker 4: Let's just be.

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Speaker 1: Honest, add attractive blond women are finally going to get

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Speaker 1: a break.

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Speaker 4: A moment in the time.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: Just they're usually shrinking violets. You never see them, never

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Speaker 1: get any attention. I just it's good to have good

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Speaker 1: looking people have a spokesperson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it's it's high time. It's high

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Speaker 3: time Clay find.

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Speaker 1: That photo that we took when we first started the show.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they can find yes, Yes, we should have.

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Speaker 3: Everybody here saw it remembers it was uh, it was uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, not not our finest moment.

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Speaker 4: I looked like an elephant seal.

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Speaker 1: Tommy is in between us and whoever took the photo

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Speaker 1: and allowed it to be distributed humbly should be murdered

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Speaker 1: on the spot for I believe it was.

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Speaker 3: It was your your, your good buddy who's now doing

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Speaker 3: something else. But uh, yes, I think it was mister

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Speaker 3: Dubb who took.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Dub, who is uh out in San Antonio.

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Speaker 1: He might be listening right now, Dub.

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Speaker 3: I love you, Dub, but your photographer, hopefully he's not

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Speaker 3: working as a photographer.

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Speaker 1: I will defend Dubb this week. Yeah, you better not me.

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Speaker 1: You better not be working as a photographer. Fat guys.

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Speaker 1: Uh because he did not help us, I will say

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Speaker 1: in Dubb's defense, I bet he didn't even look at

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Speaker 1: us in the photo.

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Speaker 2: Tommy is in the center.

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Speaker 1: I bet he didn't like he didn't realize that you

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Speaker 1: and I looked like beech and whales. That there's probably

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Speaker 1: never been a photo taken that's less flattering, and it

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Speaker 1: just immediately went out on social quick call.

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Speaker 3: Here we got forty five seconds. Keisha and Arizona way in.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Okay. I had a grandson that served in the

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Speaker 6: Militarian in Afghanistan and he was called by some of

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Speaker 6: his buddies to do food distribution in Gaza, and so

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Speaker 6: he went because he wanted to help, but he said

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Speaker 6: that it's harmas it's getting most of the food, it

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Speaker 6: is not getting to the right people.

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Speaker 3: That's thank you for that first hand account. That's what

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to say here. Everybody Hamas is creating the

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Speaker 3: malnutrition and the starvation, blaming Israel for it, and then

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Speaker 3: the New York Times is inflaming everybody blaming Israel for

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Speaker 3: it even more