1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: I mean even driving the car a good job. Also, 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: like thank you, I'm just driving the car. 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: Hy Renee. How's gone, Hey, Caitlin, how are you mate? 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Good? Oh? 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Good? 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm so excited that red clay court tennis is on 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: my TV every day. It's my favorite time of year. 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I know it's your favorite time, and I'm glad 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: for you because it is. It's long. So there you go, 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 2: perfect for. 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: You, perfect for me. I just wish everyone in America. 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: We're recording this a couple of days after John Isner's 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: loss in Madrid meant that there are no men in 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: the top thirty from America since the days of Andre 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 3: and Pete and Jim Currier and Michael Chang and all 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: those great guys who were really Andy Rottick, Andy Rottick. 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: It's nuts, It's absolutely nuts. And I can't but thinking 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: if we had more clay courts in America, these guys 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: learn how to be a little bit more diverse in 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: their skill set. 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: Do you think that's true? Well, I mean I think so. 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: You could make it an argument for that, There's no 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: question about that. But I mean, you know, they grow 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: up in hardcourt, they play big hitting tennis. They want 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: to keep the points reasonably short, and clay is a 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: learned thing. I think it's a little bit easier for 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: the American women to adjust to it. I don't know why, 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: but there is no question. I don't think it's got 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: to do with clay, Caitlin. I think this is an 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: overall problem for men's tennis in the US. I mean, 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: let's face it, they're sucking it and then women are 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: doing unbelievable and they keep coming out with new, great, 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: amazing American young female players, but the men not so much. 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Not so much. 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: We have a amazing young Tunisian player on the show today. 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: You had a chance during the Australian open quarantine period 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: to sit down with the one and only as Jibbur Tunisian, 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: first woman from the Arab world to be in the 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: top ranks of the WTA, and she ended up having 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: an incredible run at the Australia but she made the 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: quarter finals. 42 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: You know this young lady. I love her so much. 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: She's so fun, she's so fun to watch. If you 44 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: don't really know her or haven't really followed tennis over 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: the last year or two, what are you doing? Because 46 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: Azuba is like literally one of the most fun players 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: to watch. She's got the craziest drop shot in Wems's tennis. 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Like literally every player that plays her is like has 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: to practice running forward to the net to anticipate the 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: drop shot. But then she can also whack a big fourhand, 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: she can whack a big backhand. She's got a good slice. 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: She's very versatile. She likes to come in there. It 53 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: kind of suits her personality down to tea, but she's great. 54 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: I spoke to her down in the US Train Open 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: just before these train Open. She was in severe lockdown 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: for two weeks during this time, so it's kind of 57 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: ironic that we've made her sit in the vault for 58 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: this amount of time before we have released this episode. 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: But you know, sad she had to pull out of 60 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: her match last week. She's nursing a hamstring injury, so 61 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: hopefully she's going to be okay for the French Open. 62 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: So everybody out there, I mean love this interview, loved 63 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: talking to her. She's one of my very good friends 64 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 2: out there. I just adore her, and I just love 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: that she keeps creeping up that ranking because nobody likes 66 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: to play ons because their hamstrings get a workout running 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: for those droppies. 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: I mean, as you'll hear in the episode, one of 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: the potential collaborations is I mean, I know she's coached 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: by her husband, so she's not exactly in the coach 71 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 3: at market. But you know, Renee Stubbs coach for High. 72 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm not coach for High. I've got Sam Stozer still 73 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: in my wings, and but I don't know if I 74 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: can handle coaching ons because the drop shot on many 75 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: occasions will kind of probably dropped me, drive me crazy. 76 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: But having said that, oh my god, she'd be so 77 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: fun to watch all the time as a coach. Frustrating 78 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: but also fun. 79 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: Because too much fun. She's her personality really shines through 80 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: in this interview. To hear somebody who is joyous about playing, 81 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: that's something you can't always say about some of these players. 82 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: And she just truly strikes me, and you can see 83 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: it in the way she plays. She's out there having 84 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: fun and all that variety. You know, I've read she 85 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: says she gets bored, and you know, sure enough, you 86 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: guys talk about it if she doesn't mix it up enough. 87 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: So look, you're never going to be bored watching an 88 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: on stubur match. 89 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: I can tell you that no, absolutely, and I hope 90 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: you guys will enjoy this episode as much as I 91 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: did doing it. And as I said when we did 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: this interview, she was locked up going stir crazy in 93 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: a hard quarantine in Australia for two weeks, so it 94 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: was impressive what she did down there. And she keeps 95 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 2: climbing up as I set up the ranking, so fingers crossed, 96 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: her injury gets better, and she has a great friend open. 97 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: I want to introduce a very good friend of mine 98 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: and somebody I enjoy so much. Onto. I'd love to 99 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: watch her play, I love to commentate her, and I 100 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: like to be around her as a human being and 101 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: as a person. And it's Ange Jobert. Welcome to the 102 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: Racket Magazine podcast. 103 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm really fraud of. I mean, what introduction here? 104 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: And I actually never heard you commentating my matches, so I. 105 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: Should really Well. One of the reasons yeah I should, 106 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: is that I'm commentating your match, so it's pretty tough 107 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: to listen. Hopefully you're not listening to me while you're playing, 108 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: but it's possible. No, So honest, I want to know. 109 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: I ask everybody the start of my podcast, how did 110 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: you get into tennis? Why tennis? 111 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: Uh? 112 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Well, I started because my mom wanted to like to 113 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: play tennis since she was young. But after having kids, 114 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: she had time and she started playing tennis. And I 115 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: was the youngest in my two brothers and one sister, 116 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: and she takes me with her to the tennis club 117 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: and that's how I picked up this small racket and 118 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: she was enjoying a lot to be in like around 119 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: my mom playing and that's how I actually discovered tennis. 120 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's kind of an interesting situation really 121 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: because you know, given from where you are in the world, 122 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: it's a little unusual that it's the mom, the female 123 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: in your family that sort of led you down a 124 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: path of sports. Is that was that unusual or give 125 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: me a background there. 126 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: Well, to be honest, a lot of female they do 127 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: sports there. I think more the female they're like really 128 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: have a lot of energy to do stuff. So my 129 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: mom was the one going to play tennis and my 130 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: father was working, so it was like the combination between both. 131 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm grateful that she wanted to play 132 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: tennis and because before I used to like go swimming 133 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: and play tennis at the same time. But I guess 134 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: I was more interested in playing tennis, which I don't 135 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: regret right now choosing tennis, And yeah, it was for me. 136 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: I love competition. I love to compete either on a 137 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: tennis court or outside. So it's either I want to 138 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: win all the time. And I have two brothers. They're 139 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: driving me crazy with playing football with them in everything, 140 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: you know. 141 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. We have a very similar background because 142 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 2: I also grew up doing a little bit of competitive 143 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: swimming myself, so maybe that's a good thing for for us. 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: I think it's important to do a lot of sports 145 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: when you're young. So what what were the some of 146 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: the sports other than tennis that you were doing growing up. 147 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: I played football, of course and still do because I 148 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: love it. Played the handball I was running, but it 149 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: was not my favorite. It was too tiring. But everything 150 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: with the ball, I love it. So basically that's that's everything. 151 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I don't know if you know that, 152 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: but I'm a huge football you know, the football, the 153 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: not the soccer. 154 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: You know. 155 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I know I say football because it's football. 156 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that, I mean a football I know. 157 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm from Australia. But I'm an international traveler. I know 158 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: the difference now and what is in Australia football, Well, 159 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: in soccer, it can be a little bit of both. 160 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: It can be soccer in Australia or it can also 161 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: be Some people call it football. The people that really 162 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: play and really watch they call it football. Yeah, football, 163 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: It's okay, It's okay. I mean because the difference of 164 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: football in Australia is rugby and AFL. So when you 165 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: stay football, a lot of people understand it. Plus, we 166 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: have a very multicultural country growing up here. We yeah, yeah, 167 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: so you know obviously I know that you're from Tunisia. Okay, 168 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: So it's not exactly a mecca of tennis of course 169 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: in my day Salima Safar was a former top one 170 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: hundred player in singles. But how difficult? What were the 171 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: challenges in particular coming from where you came from in 172 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: Northern Africa. 173 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Honestly when I was when I was young, I didn't 174 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: like see it as a difficult, you know, place to 175 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: play tennis. For me, I had a tennis called had 176 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: Rackets and I went to play. 177 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: You. 178 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: No, I didn't make a lot of you know the 179 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: differences for me and had I made the choice at 180 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: the age of thirteen years old too, because I'm from Seuss, 181 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: which is one hundred and forty kilometers far from Tunia's 182 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: the capitol, two hours driving and I want to live 183 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: there because I was in high school practicing and going 184 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: to school at the same time. So actually I was 185 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: practicing like twice a day. We had balls, we had tennis, rackets, 186 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: we had everything, and I used to go to play 187 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Arabic Championships, African Championship. It was amazing for me. I 188 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: didn't feel the difference then after all people talking and 189 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: saying you should have this. Of course, we don't have 190 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: the same equipment as a Friends or Australia or USA. 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: We don't have a big federation, we don't have a 192 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: lot of people who were in the top one hundred. 193 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: So for me, it was one of also my goals 194 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: to inspire the girls who were in Indonesia or in 195 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Africa and tell them that if I made it here, 196 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: it's not impossible. I know, you should have a lot 197 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: of equipment, you should have a lot of everything around you, 198 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: but it's not the most important thing. And the most 199 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: important thing is like you have to believe in yourself 200 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: and then you have to work hard and achieve whatever 201 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: you know. And that's what I'm trying to do, to 202 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: be honest, And I started since I've won the juniors 203 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: in a friend sh Open in twenty eleven, and that's 204 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: what I started to believe even more in my dream. 205 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this could work, to be honest, 206 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: this could work. 207 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: There's a big step up from like, you know, doing 208 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: well in your own country and your own sort of environment, 209 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: and then obviously doing well by winning the French Open 210 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: juniors that's a huge step up as well. But I 211 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: want to know, then, like, what was the difference in 212 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: you mentally to say yeah, why not? Because you didn't 213 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: have a lot of you know, idols like that you 214 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: saw growing up. I mean, I guess I want to 215 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: ask you who was somebody that you looked up to 216 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: that you thought, hey, maybe I could do. 217 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: This well I to be I had a goal in 218 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: my mind. I wanted, like to really like achieve my 219 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: dream and be number one. I don't know why, but 220 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: I had this in me growing up. I used to 221 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: watch a lot of Andiotic and I love how he plays, 222 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: I love his serf and actually I tweeted once and 223 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: he replied, which was amazing. And he told me like 224 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: he's following how I play, and I was like, whoa, 225 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: you do really? So so it was amazing to have 226 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: this feedback. But I mean something in me was telling 227 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: me that I could I could do it. And the 228 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: more people laughing at me, the more it gives me 229 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: courage and and you know, a lot of the strength 230 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: to go forward, because i mean I've I had like 231 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: a before winning the Friends Open, I had like a 232 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: surgery in my wrist. And of course people making fun 233 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: She's not gonna play them because after five months I. 234 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: Was hitting like not in the court, I was hearing 235 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: really bad. 236 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: And you know, there's kind of a challenge, is they 237 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: give you the strength to go forward and make like 238 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: really good results. And of course if you're in the 239 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: friend Shop and okay, she's gonna stop there, and then 240 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: after you do, you go to the top hundreds, like okay, 241 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: that's her maximum. And now I'm thirty and I'm like, 242 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: I'm still going. You know, guys, don't. 243 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 2: Don't even follow me, you know, oh yeah, I can 244 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: tell you all the detractors, all the people that said 245 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: you weren't going to be anything. You have there. 246 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: There is so. 247 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: Much more for you to do. I mean, in my opinion, 248 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: like who were some of the people. Were they more 249 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: from your country or were they just outsiders in the 250 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: tennis world that were telling you you're not going to be. 251 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: Enough more from more from the country, I mean more, 252 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. They sometimes they don't believe 253 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: that we can do it. And it's which I understand 254 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: because we didn't have so many people growing up doing 255 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: something well. But we have a lot of Olympic champions, 256 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: we have a lot of people succeeding, you know, but 257 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: those are the minority. To be honest, there's a lot 258 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: of people who encourage me and were there for me, 259 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: and I'm grateful for every single person who really like 260 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: supported me. And I just really want to show and 261 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: the take off this mentality that we can do it. 262 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: We can be here. Okay, we are a small country, 263 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: we are it's Africa, but we can we have I mean, 264 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: we are human beings. We don't have anything different from 265 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: other people. Just have to work out and believe in yourself. 266 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: So I mean I looked at obviously some of your 267 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: results over the last like four or five years, I 268 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: really saw you're like a typical sort of progression up 269 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: the rankings. You were like somebody who came under the 270 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: scene in one year and like was top fifty or 271 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: had these great wins. You really slowly, you had to 272 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: dig through slow, like you had to play ten thousands, 273 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: twenty five thousand, fifty thousands. You got up and you 274 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: had to go back down. What what's some of the 275 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: things that you know and and and it can can 276 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: it continues to do that? Right? You think, oh, I'm here, 277 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you're there and you 278 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: maybe get an injury and you're back here again. What 279 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: are some of the things that you could tell somebody 280 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: who certainly from Tunisia or from a very obscure country, 281 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: what it takes mentally before the physical part, mentally, what 282 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: it takes. 283 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: Well, well, we all know tennis is a very tough 284 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: sport mentally. And I mean I've been pretty stable these 285 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: last two years, much better than the other years. But 286 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of I understand why. And since 287 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: I got to understand why this is happening, it got 288 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: much better. I don't have a typical game, you know, 289 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: I know, how can I do everything? Slies, dropshots? I 290 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: can hit flat, I can, I can spin, I can 291 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: do everything. 292 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: But when before you go into that, how did that happen? 293 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: Like why? Like growing up? Like I took Agneska Radwanska 294 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: about this, and you know, she explained to me why 295 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: it happened. Why how does that happen with you? 296 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: I asked my first coach. I asked him, I was like, 297 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: how did I start doing these structure these tricks? You know? 298 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: And he tells me like he sutten on your own. 299 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: I was practicing with a lot of guys growing up, 300 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: and I just I think it reflects my personality as 301 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: a person that I don't wanna I don't want to 302 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: like I hate routine. I don't want to repeating things. 303 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: So I like to mix it up. And that's what 304 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: happened with my game. I love fun and lot. I 305 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: love to give the show to people and people come 306 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: and watching me. For me is like, I don't know, 307 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: it's not just a tennis match, but it's I like 308 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: to have fun on the court. And when I have 309 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: fun on the court, I play the best because I'm relaxed. 310 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm not stressing out and everything, you know, and I'm 311 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: going to enjoying the everyone supported me, and they like enjoying. 312 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying also, you know, it's the energy Esus is 313 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: coming back and forth with the public, with everybody watching me. 314 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I've been changing and mix it up a lot. 315 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: And at a certain time I didn't have the I 316 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: have a choice. I don't know what to do anymore. 317 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: I know to do anything, but what should I do 318 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: in this shot? So I wasn't actually going through a 319 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: good tactic. I don't know. I wasn't. I wasn't really 320 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: sticking to the plan. But since I got to fix that, 321 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: I also improved physically. I improved also mentally, and I 322 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: got in in a good track knowing what I really want. 323 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: That's how it started to get better. And of course 324 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: with a few injuries from there, and of course this 325 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: is also ready to fitness, so it helped me a 326 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: lot when I improve my fitness and to be honest, 327 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: less injuries now, thank god, hopefully I'll be good after 328 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: those two weeks. 329 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it's a combination. It's important. I think 330 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: for you, you're such a perfect person to talk to about. 331 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: Like if you have a kid, a player, you know 332 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: that's like this way would you say it's more important 333 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: to understand their personality and mold their game towards their personality, 334 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: but then also teach them the importance of hard work, 335 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: definitely discipline, fitness, but don't change the things that makes 336 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: them really good. But there's a balance, right, Like, you 337 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: can't hit a drop shot on every shot? Explain why? 338 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: No. I know that, I know that, But the thing is, 339 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: that's what I kind of bothered me a lot during 340 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: my career. I had coaches they wanted to change my game. 341 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: I tell you, one of the courses told me to 342 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: be like Sharapova, and I'm like. At the time, I 343 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: was like, okay, sure, I mean, I'm like and then 344 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: after I realized, how can I be like Sharapoola? Were 345 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: not the same? Like completely different? Was because I was 346 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: joking around before the match and that was my kind 347 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: of being and let the stress out. You know, I 348 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: couldn't be like this and not talk to anybody. 349 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 350 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: I was my personality, you know. And since then, I 351 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: mean there I mean some coaches that didn't want me 352 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: to do a lot of drop shots. But instead of 353 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: telling me that, maybe you should show me how maybe 354 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: to have a technical how to build the point and 355 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: then finish with the drug shot, you know, and understand 356 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: maybe why I do a lot of drug shots, you know. 357 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: That's sometimes why I used to blame some coaches, you know, 358 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: But to be honest, I found a solution that I 359 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: should really rely on myself much more, and I understood, 360 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: and then now I'm kind of taking the better decisions 361 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: to do this. 362 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: The famous drop shot, you know, yeah, I mean, it's 363 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: such I'm so fascinated by it because you know, obviously 364 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: I played, so I understand when you should hit it, 365 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: maybe when you shouldn't hit it. But is there a 366 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: time does it come? There's a couple of questions on it. 367 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: Does it come completely last minute or is there a 368 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: plan or is it? Both? 369 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 3: With you. 370 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: Actually both because some players, of course they know me 371 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: so well and they know that when I'm gonna do 372 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: the drop shots. 373 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: I think right away. 374 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: Of course, the currerunning I see them. And now, of 375 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: course at the beginning it was difficult because everybody know 376 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna do drup shots. But now sometimes I 377 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: do drop shots in a shot that it's unexpected that 378 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: I do it, so I do it, you know, And 379 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: I also mix a lot with my slice, So I 380 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: just go like this, but you don't know I'm gonna 381 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: do drup shot or slice, you know, and I mix 382 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: it up. And I also with the drop shot, I 383 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: also improve my baseline game. I'm more solid in defense, 384 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: I attack much better, I'm more patient in the in 385 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: the rallies, I run better. So also it adds a 386 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: little bit with the touch, I mean, yeah, I can 387 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: do a lot of damage, I think. 388 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I find it really interesting these days when you 389 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 2: look at players like Bianca and dress you and yourself 390 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: and even swa Tech and of course prior to you, 391 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: guys was Agneshka Radwanska who was so good at it 392 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: as well. I'm finding that women's tennis in particular is 393 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: really starting to think and I've seen it. I've seen 394 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 2: girls practicing next to me practicing the drop shot. Okay, 395 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: So do you feel like, with the success of Swatek 396 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: and of course Bianca and yourself, do you feel like 397 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: it's a shot that we will really see a lot 398 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: of and why is it so successful? 399 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: Well, honestly, yeah, it helps a lot because I know 400 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: if I play against one of the players who play 401 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: like me and makes me drop shot and it's gonna 402 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: drive me insane because you never know. I mean, you're 403 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: gonna run everywhere. They can change their rhythm, they can 404 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: do this, they can do that. And also I noticed 405 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: that a lot of. 406 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: Girls they go into the volley right now, they. 407 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: Change it up and playing more doubles and going to 408 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: the volley to improve the volley and mix it up 409 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. Of course, if you do drug shot, 410 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna need your volley. You're gonna need to be 411 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: I know, it's I think it's another option. You know, 412 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: it's it's not something you're gonna rely on your game, 413 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: but it's definitely a great option for the for the game. 414 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 4: Now. 415 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: Okay, so away from the tennis a little bit. You 416 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: got named Arab Woman of the Gear in twenty nineteen. 417 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me, I want to know who other 418 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 2: people that normally win that this. 419 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: That was in London, I remember in twenty nineteen, and 420 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: they gave to each woman successful in different like it 421 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: was me in sports. Some was in politics so different 422 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: like like levels and stuff. So I know that some 423 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: other athletes wanted Olympic athletes. I know the Teunisian one 424 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: wanted also before they give to actresses. So I don't 425 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: know who made this, but it was incredible. To be honest, 426 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know that it's gonna go like whoa everybody 427 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: it was going to talk about it. But it was 428 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: fun for me going two days to London and enjoy 429 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: myself there. So it was it was very nice. 430 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I read that little bit. I do a 431 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: ton of research because I know you guys. 432 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: We make a big deal about our woman, trust me. 433 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know why. 434 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: But we make a big deal about it. How is 435 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: it for you at home now? Because you are from 436 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: a pretty small area in Deunisia. Obviously you moved to 437 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: Tenis so it's bigger. But what's it like for you 438 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: to go home to you know, your small town. 439 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: Well, I mean people recognize me much. 440 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: Bet don't know. 441 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: They knew the name before, but now they recognized more 442 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: the face. And I'm honestly happy and proud that every 443 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: time I imagine I go to do anything and people 444 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: like good job, I mean even driving the car, good job. 445 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: So I was like, thank you, I'm just driving the car, 446 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, and like people cheering actually for me, which 447 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: is amazing because I don't know how to tell you. 448 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: But it's a feeling that I felt, especially last year 449 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: by Dha and I was playing and I saw all 450 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Tunisians come and to support me. I mean, wow, even 451 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: like some players. I was playing a bit of her 452 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: the next day and she told me, so I heard 453 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: you have a crowd. Huh. I'm like, yeah, but I'm sorry. 454 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know they're going to be loud, 455 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's it's it was fun. It 456 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: was so much fun, is it? 457 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: I mean, does it mean like so much to you? 458 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: Because at some point your career will end, and do 459 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: you have aspirations to like get more young women who 460 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: can now look at you and be like, why not 461 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: have you thought about like an academy or even just 462 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 2: setting up something or what's what's the future? You're still 463 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 2: so young? And as I said, I mean, my thought is, 464 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: you are for sure top ten material. So I know 465 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: that there's so many things that you're going to do 466 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: in your career, But what about that. 467 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: That's for sure? Yeah, that's for sure. No, I think 468 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: I think about those things. I think about of having 469 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: my own academy in my own country, and I definitely 470 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: want to inspire a lot of women and men both, 471 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: and I want to also inspire a whole continent in Africa. 472 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: To be honest, I want to have a big academy. 473 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: I wanna. 474 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: I want to set up a program and honestly it's 475 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm not doing this for the money. I do it 476 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: to have so many girls in the top one hundred, 477 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: top twenty, top ten. And I know that, I know 478 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: I can do that and if you can come and 479 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: help me as a coach. 480 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I've never been to Africa. It's 481 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: one continent. No, no, I have to come. I would 482 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: tea after COVID wait, I keep I teach serve and said, 483 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: that's my specialty. 484 00:24:49,240 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 5: Okay, for sure, for sure, Okay, open in location, I 485 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 5: have it on record. 486 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: Open. 487 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk a little bit about the difficulties of 488 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: Australian open, the qualifying, the quarantine situation. Just a little 489 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: bit of the mindset for you now going into two 490 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: weeks of being in a room and how you approach 491 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: dealing with something like this and how important it is. 492 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: Is it more mental or is it physical or is 493 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: it both? 494 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 3: For you? 495 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you. It was. 496 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: It was very tough. Uh shocking, to be honest. When 497 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: I heard about the news, I wasn't expecting it at all. 498 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: I didn't think that we could really quarantine two weeks 499 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: in a room knowing that we're going to play a 500 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: tournament just after. I don't mind quarantining. We've been, We've 501 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: been like re respecting the rules of everywhere in any 502 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: other country. I understand, uh difficulties for Australian people how 503 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: they reacted when we came here. Of course they're COVID 504 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: free here and who we come from outside, but some 505 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of players. I myself was in the 506 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: bubble in Abu Dhabi, so I came from a bubble 507 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: directly to a bubble and I was like, no, really 508 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: not going out And it's I mean, COVID is everywhere, 509 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: and I understand the situations, just sometimes it's tough to 510 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: accept when you have a tournament just after, and as 511 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: a professional athlete, I want to be one hundred percent ready. 512 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: Also seeing other players practicing it doesn't make it fair, 513 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: so also makes it even hard. But I mean, at 514 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you have to accept the 515 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: situation because we don't have any control over it. And 516 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: I respect one hundred percent of the rules. I want 517 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: everybody's safety. And we come up with the fun exercises 518 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: in the room. We've been running five k's in the 519 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: room and we have a bike. Now we are trying 520 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: to do a lot of you know, exercises. I'm trying 521 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: to keep fit, like working on my mentor a lot 522 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: like like just seeing myself playing so I don't lose 523 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: that in my mind. And I heard there's some researchers 524 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: when you do when you do that, it's the same 525 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: as practicing. So I'm using everything I can to do 526 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: and I have pretty good imagination, so trust me, when 527 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 1: I close my eyes, I can really see myself doing 528 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: the drop shots. 529 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you you did have Bianca and 530 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: Rescue on the Record Magazine podcast and she talked specifically 531 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: about that when she was injured during that period of time, 532 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: and one thing she wrote down was I will win 533 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: the Canadian Open. And remember she didn't play from Indian 534 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: whilst to Canada. I know, I know, So I expect 535 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: you after this is over to write on a piece 536 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: of paper. I am going to I'm. 537 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: Imagining myself left in lifting the trophy this speech. 538 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's right. And I expect you to tell 539 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: everybody in the whole world. Of course you told me this, Okay, 540 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: that's that's right. 541 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: I believe. I believe a lot in energy. I believe 542 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: a lot in the spiritual world. I believe that everything happened, 543 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: you should manifest it. I believe that you should ask 544 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: the universe for everything. So I believe in all these things, 545 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: and I believe that this is this is how it's 546 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: meant to be. I was meant to be to stay 547 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: in the room for two weeks. I believe that if 548 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: something bad happened to you, I know there is something 549 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: good is gonna happen. So I am. I have a 550 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: big faith in God, in everything is happening around us, 551 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: in myself because I know that I'm capable of So Okay, 552 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: maybe I was like a little bit upset at the beginning, 553 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: but I mean, what can you do. I'm a professional 554 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: athlete and I want the best, you know, So now 555 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean, really gonna focus. Thank God I'm here, and 556 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: hopefully hopefully everybody stays safe. To be honest, because this 557 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: this COVID, I everybody has dis COVID and hope this 558 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: thing will be over very soon. 559 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: You have a great I like the way you're thinking 560 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: right now. It's good. And if we do play this 561 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: after the Australian Open and you win the tournament, we 562 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: can tell everybody it was because you said it. Here. 563 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: A couple of last little things. I want to go 564 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: back to the austrain Open last year because it's usually 565 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: such a great place for you. It was, of course, 566 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: the first time an Arab woman ever made the quarterfinals 567 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: of a Grand Slam. And not only did you make 568 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: the quarter last year, I mean I had to look 569 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: her because I forgot the schedule, but you beat Joe Conta, 570 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: you beat Garcia, and you beat was Niyaki and Wang Xiong. 571 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me, Like, could you have had a 572 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: harder draw to make the quarterfinals? And of course you 573 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: ended up losing to the defending uh you know now 574 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: defending champion in Sophia Kennon. A couple of things about 575 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: that tournament was Naki? Can you because it was also 576 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: her last match? And can we just say, boy, did 577 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: she pick a great time to retire? 578 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, she. 579 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: Knew it, Yeah right, I mean hello, but what what 580 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: was it like for you going on the court because 581 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 2: you knew that that was it? Right? If you won 582 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: that was her last match. Can you give us a 583 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: little like feeling of how that felt for you? Because 584 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: I know you're such a nice person, and I knew 585 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: that you were. There was a party here that still 586 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: was thinking that. Let me tell you since I was 587 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: talking about manifesting things. I of course, when I was training, 588 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: I saw that she was going to retire. And it was. 589 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: In December or maybe before she was going to retire 590 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: on my story and open, and I was like, I 591 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: had this feeling that I was going to play her, 592 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: and I was the one who's going to play her. 593 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, okay, stop being crazy. And it 594 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: was like I went back to practice. Okay, I was 595 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: seeing the draw. She was on my side. I remember 596 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: she was playing Christian jan in the first round and 597 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: we may see each other, you know. But I was 598 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: like I kept playing, you know, just like normal. I played. 599 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: I played her before injured Wes. I remember it was 600 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: a Martine match. She likes to run a lot. She 601 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: and I obviously like to make a drop shot and 602 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: she she gets them all. And of course that time 603 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: when I went to UH to play the match, I 604 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: was like, okay, just don't see it as a retirement man. 605 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: Just see it as a normal match, tennis match. It's 606 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: it's a Grand Slam. I don't know, it's stuff, and 607 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: these things happen. But it was my, honestly, my pleasure 608 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: to play her that day. Everybody I know who was 609 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: supporting her. But it was a great atmosphere. Only regret 610 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: one thing, not exchanging rackets with her. I don't know 611 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: what I was thinking back then, but I was like 612 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: super stressed and she's a very nice person, and to 613 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: be honest, it was it was a great experience for me. 614 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: Probably most of the people hate me, but that's that's tennis. 615 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: Come on, nobody can hate you. Wait before I want 616 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: to say, did you manifest that you were going to 617 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: apply her and that you were going to be the beat? 618 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: I thought about it, and I thought about. 619 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: It, but that you were going to be the one 620 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: that was going to send her off into happy retirement. 621 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: I thought about it, to be honest, that's how I 622 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: thought about it. I was like, I was like I 623 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: when I saw she was going to retire, I was like, 624 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: am I the one who's going to stop her career 625 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: right here, right now? 626 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: And then? 627 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: And it did happen. When I was going to play 628 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: play here, I was like, Okay, this is really happening. 629 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: You should have told everybody. Well, you know, just so 630 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: you know, I manifested. It's like three months. That's such 631 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 2: a cool story. I love it. Now listen, if I can, 632 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: we can figure this out, and you figure out which 633 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: racket it was that you beat it with, maybe we 634 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: can figure out an exchange with the rackets. 635 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if she sees this, I want your racket. 636 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean I still have the racket that I've played with. 637 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. Maybe we could work out something. 638 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: Let's text her and figure it out after we're done. 639 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: So you get through that match. It's obviously a big deal. 640 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: Everyone's talk about you about, you know, beating Caroline, but 641 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: also then you went into play so what did you 642 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: what did you? 643 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: Oh? 644 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, one after it was one? Yeah, and then you 645 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 2: want us to be Serena to be honest, Well, but 646 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: we all know you gotta buy the match first, right, 647 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: and she lost to Serena. Yeah that's right, because everyone 648 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: was talking about it's going to be Serena and Losniaki, 649 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: but it didn't happen on both occasions. Yes, what what 650 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: did you learn from the match with Sofia. 651 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: Well, Sophia is a is a tough player because to 652 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: win appointment gives her you really really really need to 653 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: work hard and it's every point. And I know she 654 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: was a tough match for her as well, because I 655 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: kind of heard her talking to her mom just after 656 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: something and saying, there was a very, very tough match, 657 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: and I know it was a lot of stress. It's 658 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: my first quarterfinal. I was maybe a little bit tired, 659 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: I guess, but I mean she was much better than me, 660 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: that much, I admitted. And there is no no, really 661 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: no regrets. I know that I'm gonna come back stronger 662 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take my revenge one of these days. 663 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: I know that I have to believe more in myself 664 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: in my game because I know I can really play 665 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: really good. I just have to maintain that level and 666 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: I know it's on in this head and hopefully it's 667 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: going to be this head was going to be fixed 668 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: soon and play better on the court. 669 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: You had a great year though after that. I mean 670 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: you had some really phenomenal wins. Of course, you beat Plishkov, 671 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: It's been your best win as far as ranking is concerned. 672 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: I guess the next step is obviously you want to 673 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: be top ten. You'd tell me how important it is 674 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: for someone like Cannon Swantek to win a French Open? 675 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: Does that give players like you who are sort of 676 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: like I just I want to win a Grand Slam? 677 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: But I'm not sure does that give you that the 678 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: feeling of manifested? Also, did you manifest you manifested that 679 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: you're going to win a Grand winning? 680 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 4: Right? 681 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: Great? I know, I know I'm gonna do it. I 682 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: know I'm gonna have that title that I always wanted 683 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: in my life. 684 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: And which one? Which one? I mean, let's be honest, 685 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: come on which one? 686 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: Uh? 687 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: I love the French and I love Australia. So since 688 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: it's in uh in two weeks Australian Open or more 689 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: three weeks, then I'm going to say Australia for now 690 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: the process. 691 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: That was a really smart answer there, you know. And 692 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 2: then the next one happens to be in the French Open. 693 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: Well, really, I don't know. 694 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: Hey, maybe you can win both. Let's manifest that. 695 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: Well. 696 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: I think you're your ability and of course your husband, 697 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: you know, he's like working you hard, and I'm sure 698 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: that hasn't been easy at times that he's the one 699 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: that has to make you run the extra you know, 700 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 2: couple of miles. Does that put a little bit of 701 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 2: stress on the relationship. 702 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: At the beginning is but now we. 703 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: Are good. 704 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: We actually understand each other a lot, and he's been 705 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: helping me and since actually I started with him my 706 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: best ranking and my best tennis and I'm grateful that 707 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: I chose him. I mean, it's it's unbelievable balance for 708 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: both of us because you know, as a tennis player, 709 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: it's tough to always travel. It's a lonely life, and 710 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: you know how tough it is to go from each 711 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: country and you don't have a home. So to be 712 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: able for him to travel with me and also be 713 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: my fitness coaches, that's amazing. And to be honest, surviving 714 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: those two weeks with him next to me, it's also amazing. 715 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: Has he got you to do some fencing because of 716 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 2: coause he was a competitive fencer. So have you tried? 717 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: We did once. I tried just after we got married, 718 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: and wait, I think I want you know, yeah, just 719 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: after it was a honeymoon gift. 720 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: Did you were you able to get him? And actually, 721 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: I've always thought fencing wood is a great thing to 722 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 2: for tennis because it really does take a lot of 723 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: footwork and up and back and you know, like having 724 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: a good reaction exactly. 725 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: The reaction is amazing. I mean to be able to 726 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: move like a small space and try to like really 727 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: get the other player. It's it's it's a tough sport. 728 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, I think it's probably best that you guys 729 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: put the fencing. Uh just what is it? What is 730 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 2: it called? What's that thing called? 731 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: The sort? No? The thing that is? Yeah, I don't 732 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: know what's it called. I don't know. 733 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 2: Is he there is your husband there? Can't you ask 734 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 2: him what that is? There is a sep. 735 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: Sword, see because there is three different things. There is 736 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: a foil saber the ah okay, so there is two 737 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: each day. Touch and it's different because you're allowed to 738 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: touch like your body. Some are in the bag and 739 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: the body. 740 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 2: So different part of bodies. 741 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: I really didn't get the rules and want to explain. 742 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 2: To maybe rules. Maybe we'll get like maybe one day 743 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 2: we will dress you up as one and we'll I 744 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: don't think we're not going to do it after you 745 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 2: when you straight and open, we're going to get you 746 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: out we're going to get you a saber, a jousting thing. 747 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 1: Anyway, he does foil. 748 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: He does foil, Okay, yeah, so you have to get 749 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 2: in his Does he travel with his foils? No? 750 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: I travel them with my records. 751 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: The only the only foils I use from my hair, 752 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 2: my gray hair. 753 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 3: You know. 754 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: I put the foil in the hair and paint it. 755 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 2: And you don't have yes, I do. Well, listen. I 756 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: want to thank you for joining me. I know you 757 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 2: don't have that much to do right now because it's a. 758 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: Long busy, a long day Netflix. 759 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: I hope you're watching a lot of Netflix. You're watching 760 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: a lot of like, you know, really good documentaries on 761 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 2: like Great Champions, and I know that you're going to 762 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: get through it and exactly, but I want to thank you, 763 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: I know, And I really want everyone out there that 764 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: knows tennis obviously knows you, and the ones that are 765 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: sort of not really familiar with you, I want them 766 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 2: to know how great you are as a person and 767 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: how fun you are. And we're so happy that you're 768 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: in our sport because you make you make tennis so 769 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: fun and it's it's a joy to commentate, it's a 770 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: joy to watch I've never coached against you, so when 771 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 2: that happens, it's not going to be fun because exactly, no, 772 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 2: Sam stars in the first round. No, that's not gonna go. 773 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, that's not good for me, and all 774 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: this joy is gonna be against me. No, no, no, no, 775 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: let's erase that. 776 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: Let's erase that. No no, no, that's not gonna happen. 777 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen. Now wait, hold on second, what's 778 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: you're ranking right now? Thirty? Is this the top highest 779 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: you've ever been? Congratulations to my friends, thirty twenty. 780 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 3: One. 781 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: Let's manifest it for you, my friend, let's go. Okay, 782 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: thank you for joining me. I'll see you on the outside, 783 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: my friends, I'll see you on the outside, see you okay. 784 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: Thanks some for good luck. Yeah, exactly, Thanks buddy, And that's. 785 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 4: It for this episode of the Racket Magazine podcast. Thanks 786 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 4: for listening. Our host is Renee Stubbs. Our co host 787 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 4: and producer is me Caitlin Thompson. Music by internationally renowned 788 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 4: DJ Stretch Armstrong. Thanks to Tim or Jerry and then 789 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 4: the team at acast. Find us at racketmag dot com, 790 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 4: slash podcast and subscribe to us at any of your 791 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 4: favorite podcasters