WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 102: Positive Signs

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<v Speaker 1>This week on the Happy half Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>What they've tried to do in general is teach master's

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<v Speaker 2>level classes to a freshman. And he's a smart freshman.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a precocious freshman, but he's still a freshman. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think some of this was to be expected. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, again, as you mentioned, Augusta, there are positive signs.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for the Happy half Hour with your friends

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<v Speaker 2>Kristin Balboni, Augusta Stone, and Darren Gannon. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Happy half Hour. It's Thursday, October fifth. And sometimes I

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<v Speaker 2>say things like that to remind myself what day it is,

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<v Speaker 2>especially today because I'm struggling with a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a cold, but we're playing through. I've got a Gusta

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<v Speaker 2>Stone sitting over there on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>Quick way to figure out Thursday is that we start

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<v Speaker 4>our day with the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's right. We always are here, so uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>good news. Okay, So it's Thursday, It's the Happy half Hour,

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<v Speaker 2>and this episode of The Happy half Hour is brought

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. I'm sure they're proud of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Read with me sounding like I'm at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>a well or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, maybe they make cough.

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<v Speaker 3>Syrup proud Prowlers.

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<v Speaker 4>You can say a lot with the prow but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I know cough syrup would be coff Syrup's good. I

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<v Speaker 4>have a ton of cough drops still in my bag

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<v Speaker 4>from the many times at my throat sore. Just randomly.

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<v Speaker 4>I am a cough drop squirrel. I swear, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>I just like the taste.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you have any cough drops here and I

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<v Speaker 4>got you and toms, I keep tombs on me too.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of like a twenty five year old, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>never had children, but I kind of carry my bag

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<v Speaker 4>like a diaper bag. I have a lot of random

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<v Speaker 4>stuff in there at any given moment, like ibuprofen, toms.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to keep those little gas pills like I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of got anyone covered.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a mini pharmacy in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a it's a little bit of a running

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<v Speaker 2>joke around my family. My cure for my children. All

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<v Speaker 2>the time they would come in saying they felt sick,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd be like, have you had a banana? Have

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<v Speaker 2>you taken advil? Are you drinking water? Maybe a gatorade

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<v Speaker 2>to hydrate yourself? And so this morning, when I was

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<v Speaker 2>feeling a little under the weather, I grabbed my banana

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<v Speaker 2>and gatorade and advil and send a picture of it

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<v Speaker 2>to my daughter and she's like, oh, no, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be one of those days if you're self medicating.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the kind of science I'm performing out here,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's it's not great, but we're playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Through it exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Stand happy, because that's what you do in October, you

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<v Speaker 4>play through it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Panthers you'll learn in that too.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, we have, sure the OHO and

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<v Speaker 4>four start two pretty tough rim matchups ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Than the bye, but no way to go but forward.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's something that we've kind of surmised

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<v Speaker 4>from the conversations we've had throughout the week. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we talked about on this podcast before, but

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<v Speaker 4>you never feel a sense of panic. That's a good

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<v Speaker 4>thing that you have from from Frank Reich being at

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<v Speaker 4>the Helm. Everything seems pretty procedural around here. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>say what you will about the Vikings game. I think

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<v Speaker 4>if you look a look at the tape, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't a win. It wasn't you know, the result

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<v Speaker 4>they wanted. But Bryce Young improved. That's something I think

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<v Speaker 4>you can think about. Looked better, more efficient, better rating,

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<v Speaker 4>better stats. So that's something we could talk about to

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<v Speaker 4>start we're doing the Happy half Hour.

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<v Speaker 3>You could talk about Bryce Young.

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<v Speaker 4>He he started out, you know, he's he's getting better

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<v Speaker 4>and without you know, four losses, he's only played in

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<v Speaker 4>three of the games. He's back, he's healthy. We have

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<v Speaker 4>Austin Corbett returning to practice. That was a big storyline

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<v Speaker 4>that was exciting. Darren has been writing the heck out

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<v Speaker 4>of some features every eighth but this one came a

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<v Speaker 4>little early because had some exciting news that he was

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<v Speaker 4>back on the field yesterday. So we have we have

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<v Speaker 4>a litany of things we could talk about that aren't

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<v Speaker 4>horrible and.

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<v Speaker 2>Austin, you know, and the good news is we call

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<v Speaker 2>this the happy half hour. I've never considered it part

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<v Speaker 2>of my charter to be happy every single day, so

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<v Speaker 2>I will. Augusta's got a sonnier personality than I do.

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<v Speaker 2>By nature of us, it's not that that's particularly hard

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<v Speaker 2>to achieve. But congratulations on clearing that high bar, Augusta.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I mean you mentioned Austin Corbett, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think if there's anything to take out of the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days, that's one of the things you can

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<v Speaker 2>point to is a there's a buy coming up in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks, which this team could use in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ways to get some guys healthy. But

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<v Speaker 2>it certainly looks like at some point, either immediately after

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<v Speaker 2>that buyer shortly after it, Austin's going to be back

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<v Speaker 2>on the field. And when you think about the problems

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<v Speaker 2>that things that have been consistent problems for the Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers over the first four weeks of this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Interior offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>Play has been up there near the top of the list,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've been shuff on a lot of guys through there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Cade May's Calvin Throckmorton, Chandlers of Allah took

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<v Speaker 2>over after Brady Christiansen was hurt and out for the year.

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<v Speaker 2>So and without Austin in there, there's been nothing resembling settled.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what's difficult for those guys to overcome because

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<v Speaker 2>last year, and it's weird to keep referring to last

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<v Speaker 2>year because this is a completely new environment. Last year,

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<v Speaker 2>new coaches, new offensive system, you know, new blocking scheme

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Ways, and two new guards.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's hard to compare too many things. But because

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<v Speaker 2>last year was so settled, I think this year being

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<v Speaker 2>so unsettled feels a little jarring to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who were you know, there aren't that many guys

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<v Speaker 2>who were still around, but for the people who saw

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on in second half of last season

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<v Speaker 2>and what's going on now, it's a little bit like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what are.

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<v Speaker 1>We looking at?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's different too. I like how you pointed out

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<v Speaker 4>schematic differences. And I know you have alluded to wanting

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<v Speaker 4>to write about this this week, but kind of and

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<v Speaker 4>Frank you asked him about it yesterday Wednesday's press conference,

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<v Speaker 4>but kind of about how things are molding together. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you start out Thomas Brown talked a lot about with

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<v Speaker 4>the playbook when they first got together, and how they

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<v Speaker 4>kind of took a playbook, stripped it down to the bones,

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<v Speaker 4>and then kind of built from there. And now they're taking,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the time to sort of evaluate what has worked,

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<v Speaker 4>what hasn't. When you're melding all of these mindes together,

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<v Speaker 4>you have Frank, right, Thomas Brown, Jim Caldwell, Douce Daley,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Josh McCown, Parks, Frasier and these are those

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<v Speaker 4>are just the ones that've rolled off the top of

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<v Speaker 4>my head that are touching this offense and kind of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, putting it together. So you have all of

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<v Speaker 4>those new new thought, new thoughts people, and then you

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<v Speaker 4>have all these new pieces as well. I mean kind

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<v Speaker 4>of seeing how it's all going to come together. I

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<v Speaker 4>think Frank said yesterday, you know that it's still gradual

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<v Speaker 4>and it's still happening, and I wanted to know your evaluation, Darren,

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<v Speaker 4>of how that's going through, because that's something that we've

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<v Speaker 4>all kind of looked at and you know, how are

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<v Speaker 4>they going to put it together? And now they're sort

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<v Speaker 4>of working through what worked, what hasn't. You know, how

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<v Speaker 4>you play to the personnel that you have and kind

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<v Speaker 4>of formulate all of that around. Like you mentioned guard

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<v Speaker 4>play that hasn't been consistent, I mean personnel wise that

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<v Speaker 4>hasn't been consistent, but also just trying to bring a

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<v Speaker 4>rookie together with all these pieces, with all these people

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<v Speaker 4>still you know, getting to know each other pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Right from February to July, when Frank would talk about

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<v Speaker 2>his staff coming together, he kept using the phrase diversity

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<v Speaker 2>of thought.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think anybody who's ever worked as a part of

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of team, any kind of office situation where

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<v Speaker 2>you've got different departments, knows you're better off if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got people who think differently, and it just increases the

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<v Speaker 2>number of variable It increases the number of perspectives that

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<v Speaker 2>you can apply to any given problem. The problem with it, however,

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<v Speaker 2>is it takes a minute for that to come together.

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<v Speaker 2>Because right now, and I mean if you just strip

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<v Speaker 2>it down to the run game. Everybody thinks about second

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<v Speaker 2>half last year here. That is a very different run

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<v Speaker 2>game than Thomas Brown has been exposed to for the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years in Los Angeles. It's very different

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<v Speaker 2>than the Philadelphia run game that Frank Reich's got experience

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<v Speaker 2>with and kind of comes out of that style of offense.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think getting all those perspectives, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>keep because this is theater of their mind and you

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<v Speaker 2>can obviously see what I'm doing. I've been doing a

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<v Speaker 2>thing where I take my hands and I spread my

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<v Speaker 2>fingers out and I lay them kind of crossways from

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<v Speaker 2>each other, and it's like, if they can get all

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<v Speaker 2>of these crossways fingers pointed in the same direction, all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, they'll be on to something. And right

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<v Speaker 2>now there, I think things are just a little bit off,

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to get those pieces together, I mean trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get the basically, take people who speak three different

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<v Speaker 2>languages and get them speaking the same one. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>tell you they're downstairs busting at due Lingo, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get all together as quickly as they can, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's natural that that takes time. Now, once they achieve.

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<v Speaker 2>Once they get to the place that they all want

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<v Speaker 2>to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the opportunity to do some good things.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now it's still very much a learning process,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's kind of reasonable to think that

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<v Speaker 2>was going to take a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously nobody expects oh and four, and Frank kind of

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<v Speaker 2>shrugs and goes through the whole. It's like he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a paragraph in his head that he feels compelled to

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<v Speaker 2>say that, hey, oh and four is not okay. We

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<v Speaker 2>did expect to be better than this. We know people

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<v Speaker 2>want us to be better than this. He says all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. But at the base of it

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<v Speaker 2>is always but we knew this was going to take

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<v Speaker 2>some time. So I think this is the unfortunate growing period,

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<v Speaker 2>arning period with each other. But you know, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when smart people get together and try to

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<v Speaker 2>solve problems together. It doesn't always work out. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>my miraculous cure for whatever ails you, whether it's an

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<v Speaker 2>ear infection or a common cold or a broken wrist,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gatorade, banana, advil sleep. And you know, my wife

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<v Speaker 2>happens to be a pediatrician. And when my kids mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>to her that that was my cure for that. She

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, does he think that works? And so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, smart people can disagree and come to different

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<v Speaker 2>conclusions about what may work and what may not work,

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<v Speaker 2>but when they all get on the same page, it

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<v Speaker 2>can produce positive results. So we will see as this

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<v Speaker 2>week progresses. You know, Detroit is a tough place to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get a run game fixed, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're up the top of the charts in most of

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<v Speaker 2>your defensive categories in that phase of the game. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that one of my pet things about

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<v Speaker 2>football is Okay, if something's not working, don't do that anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>or don't do as much of that. The things that

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<v Speaker 2>you're good at, do more of those, because that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this isn't necessarily the week to try to

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<v Speaker 2>get your run game right against the Detroit Lions. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>and again here I go back to last year. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>they ran well against the Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was different.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my goodness, I was thinking about that. But I

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<v Speaker 4>will say that was at least to me. I remember

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<v Speaker 4>that game so well, freezing cold Christmas Eve, so many

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<v Speaker 4>different memories. I don't think we necessarily expected that to

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<v Speaker 4>happen either, not saying that it's the same, completely different

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<v Speaker 4>teams on both sides of the ball, but I mean, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, stranger things have happened.

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<v Speaker 4>We were all kind of, I think, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 4>of surprised at how that turned out. Now again, personnel

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<v Speaker 4>what nothing is the same, and that's very very clearly

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<v Speaker 4>being communicated. However, it was a good matchup last year,

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<v Speaker 4>and while things have changed, saying they're gonna run down

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<v Speaker 4>their throats or anything, but I mean, I really do

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<v Speaker 4>feel optimistic about about what Bryce has shown.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Bryce Young is showing.

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<v Speaker 4>That you know, he's a rookie A but B he's accountable.

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<v Speaker 4>For one, I was rewatching the TV broadcast and seeing

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<v Speaker 4>his leadership. What they were able to see on the

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<v Speaker 4>cameras and stuff was really really cool for a.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy that seems so.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, calm and quiet and cool at press conferences,

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<v Speaker 4>even around the locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's not the he's not the shouting type,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not the in your face type.

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<v Speaker 4>But but seeing him kind of, I don't know, he's

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<v Speaker 4>stepping into his own here. He has a month of

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<v Speaker 4>NFL experience, he's going into his fourth game. Now, I

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<v Speaker 4>think what you're seeing from Bryce is what you want

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<v Speaker 4>to see, is you want to talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>areas of the offense in which they look to improve.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, they're kind of getting what they

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<v Speaker 4>what they expected to in an early, early, early stage,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's not regressing, which is positive. I think he

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<v Speaker 4>did learn from that week watching Andy up in Seattle,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, completely different quarterbacks, but I think seeing his

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<v Speaker 4>veteran leadership and the way that he was able.

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<v Speaker 3>To kind of comf go out there kind of helped

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<v Speaker 3>him out too.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean that's I I can't I can't help

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<v Speaker 4>but emphasize that that Bryce Young is kind of doing

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<v Speaker 4>everything that he can at this stage in his career

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<v Speaker 4>so early, but also kind of with the situation around

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<v Speaker 4>him that hopefully will continue to improve with health and

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<v Speaker 4>with whatever else the Panthers might have, you know, cooking up,

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<v Speaker 4>scheming up for him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think they got to be careful in how

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<v Speaker 2>much cooking they try to do. There's a common theme

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<v Speaker 2>this year and again to go back to last year. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>they took a they took a playbook that was this

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<v Speaker 2>thick about size of the Manhattan phone Book and turned it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what a phone book is?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I just sometimes I like to check myself on cultural

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<v Speaker 2>references to make sure there's still Jamaine.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say, I grew up rural, so I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit behind, Like I had dial up internet and stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and I have friends that did not. So shout out Chickamauga, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 4>When you grew up rural, you're about ten five, ten

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<v Speaker 4>years behind everybody else. So I had things in the

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<v Speaker 4>late nineties that were.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably in the early nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you know what Manhattan is?

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<v Speaker 3>Manhattan like the drink, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>It meant the borough of New York. Oh yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>rural urban kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>At any rate, where were we, you know, last year's

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<v Speaker 2>playbook when when they were having success here running the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>they took a playbook size of the Manhattan phone Book

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<v Speaker 2>and turned it.

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<v Speaker 1>Into a pamphlet.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't win in the NFL with a pamphlet sized

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<v Speaker 2>offensive playbook. I mean, they were able to pull together

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<v Speaker 2>some games last year and do that, but the whole

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<v Speaker 2>point of hiring Frank Reich and all these coaches was

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<v Speaker 2>to build that playbook back up to an adult size. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think if anything's been clear over the first

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<v Speaker 2>four weeks, is that starting Even though Bryce is a

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant processor and nail DS two test and all those

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<v Speaker 2>kind of things we talked about all spring, those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Are still true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still a lot for any player to process because

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<v Speaker 2>the speed of NFL players on defense, there's windows are

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<v Speaker 2>closing faster. Even though he played at a high level

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<v Speaker 2>in Alabama, it's still very different because Alabama was playing

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<v Speaker 2>people who are practice squad corners now and they're playing

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<v Speaker 2>NFL corners every week. So it's an adjustment for Bryce.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the adjustment phase is real. I joked in

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<v Speaker 2>the mail bag the other day, I wish I had

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<v Speaker 2>a hot key for Peyton Manning led the league in

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<v Speaker 2>interceptions with twenty eight in his first year in the

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<v Speaker 2>cole twent three to thirteen, just to remind people that

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<v Speaker 2>even the very best rookies, the highest processing rookies, are

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<v Speaker 2>still rookies and it's going to take them a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, if anything, what you might see in

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<v Speaker 2>the next couple of weeks is some degree of pulling back,

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<v Speaker 2>some degree of Okay, let's find the things that Bryce

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<v Speaker 2>is good at. Let's find those easy throws. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to take away from CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an incredibly talented player and is off to a

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<v Speaker 2>great start in Houston, and that's created some unfortunate comparisons

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<v Speaker 2>for Bryce.

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<v Speaker 1>But CJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud's playing in a very different offense I think in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of at least what they're trying to do here

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<v Speaker 2>and the way they're sending Bryce through reads and different things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just more complex than what the Texans are asking

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<v Speaker 2>CJ to do. And you can ask yourself, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a fair question, well, what's smart trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do something complicated or do something simple? Well, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>right now things are going well for CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see how he develops over the course of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think what they've tried to do in general

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<v Speaker 2>is teach Masters level classes to a freshman. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>a smart freshman, he's a precocious freshman, but he's still

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<v Speaker 2>a freshman. So I think this was some of this

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<v Speaker 2>was to be expected. But you know, again, as you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned Augusta, there are positive signs. One of my pet stats,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's got theirs in football, and mine's always been kind

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<v Speaker 2>of yards per pass attempt, and it's gone three point eight,

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<v Speaker 2>four point six, six point something last week, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing that steady progression in Bryce throwing more of

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<v Speaker 2>those quote unquote adult passes. The third down play to

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<v Speaker 2>Thieln where he steps up in the pocket last week

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<v Speaker 2>and finds Outam coming across the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a big time throw. And that was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw of all the many quarterbacks we've seen here over

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<v Speaker 2>the last five years. We haven't seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>guys who are making.

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<v Speaker 3>That play exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And I kind of wanted to also shift to the

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<v Speaker 4>defensive side of the ball because that's an area I

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<v Speaker 4>think in which I mean the Panther saw a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of success last week. I'm writing a story right now

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<v Speaker 4>on DeShawn Jamison, who came in in a situation where

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<v Speaker 4>maybe he didn't expect to play, came in for Dante Jackson. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>we have a ton of injuries here at Bank of

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<v Speaker 4>America Stadium, and you know, just looting my coal. I

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<v Speaker 4>was about to say, just kind of lots of people

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<v Speaker 4>in the getting healed up right now, ir and everything,

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<v Speaker 4>and Dante's one of them. Now, I mean banged up

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<v Speaker 4>secondary and both starting quarterbacks out, so we had a

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<v Speaker 4>undrafted Ricky who spent the offseason with the forty nine

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<v Speaker 4>ers here, and he threw some of the plays, like

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there were two that I wrote about that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of caught my eye, just as those kind of

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<v Speaker 4>flash plays on defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, the block.

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<v Speaker 4>Up against Kirk Cousins on Sam Franklin's ninety nine yard

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<v Speaker 4>interception return for a touchdown which made Panther's history, which

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<v Speaker 4>was super exciting and kind of got this place really

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<v Speaker 4>really excited at the very beginning of the game, just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of laid him out of it is it's fun

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<v Speaker 4>to watch in part of One of the angles I

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<v Speaker 4>get to play off in my story is Deshaun Jamison's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the smallest guys on the active rosteries five

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<v Speaker 4>point nine, which puts him on deck with a raheem

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<v Speaker 4>blackshear in terms of high he's smaller, Kirk is not,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the tiniest person in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Just lays him out and then.

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<v Speaker 4>We see him later big pass breakup against Justin Jefferson

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<v Speaker 4>knocked him out for a little bit. Came back and

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<v Speaker 4>think he may have been winded or something. He was

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<v Speaker 4>down for a bit, but it was a clean tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>I've watched it multiple times, found some angles on Twitter

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<v Speaker 4>where you just kind of see him knock him down

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<v Speaker 4>and he gets all excited and celebrate. And for a

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<v Speaker 4>guy that's coming in, you know, he was waived at

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<v Speaker 4>the fifty three in San Francisco. If Panthers signed him

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<v Speaker 4>off to the fifty three off waivers in that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of wave with a throck Morton and cherrylist as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But kind of got his playing time and did pretty

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<v Speaker 4>well with and he didn't necessarily light up or stuff

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<v Speaker 4>the stat sheet, but he created the kind of plays

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<v Speaker 4>that like, when I left that game, I was like, well, dang,

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<v Speaker 4>like this guy. He we said it a lot last season.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of died this year. But has that dog

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<v Speaker 4>in him, you know what I mean. Came from Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>super nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy to talk to.

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<v Speaker 4>So while these guys heal up, I think he was

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<v Speaker 4>definitely a positive across a defense that has looked good

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<v Speaker 4>despite all of.

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<v Speaker 3>The injuries that it's faced.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, think about the impossible situations of trying to

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<v Speaker 4>figure out a way to replace Shack Thompson and not

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<v Speaker 4>being without JC for most of the season so far

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<v Speaker 4>and now they were that X in the secondary. There's

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<v Speaker 4>so many different pieces and they found a way to

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<v Speaker 4>make it come together. And I think that's a testament

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<v Speaker 4>to the job he Giero Evere has been able to do.

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<v Speaker 4>But also, I mean, you know, scoring points, making history,

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<v Speaker 4>Sam Franklin wouldn't be necessarily on the field if things

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<v Speaker 4>had gone the way that you'd expect them to do

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<v Speaker 4>all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, I think that's something too that

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<v Speaker 3>we can kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of lean on and look at as a as a

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<v Speaker 4>as a more positive thing where if you get the

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<v Speaker 4>offensive side filled out, I mean, the good news is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the defense is holding its own for the

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<v Speaker 4>most part and kind of creating plays where they need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam's so funny because Sam is he's the juice guy

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<v Speaker 2>in that locker room. He's always good for starting to

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<v Speaker 2>fight on special teams or you know, making big plays

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<v Speaker 2>in that area. And it kind of a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys mentioned to me the other day, they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's killing Sam that he can't be on the punt

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<v Speaker 2>team anymore, you know, while he's starting on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>So he really enjoys that part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But because of the loss, and because the situation b

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<v Speaker 2>a zero and four, I think everybody down there is

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<v Speaker 2>little hesitant to be having too much fun right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So Sam tried to low key it when he was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>A big dealer folksing on team goals all that kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of stuff, and this tam and I said, Sam, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>broke a record that was set by Julius Peppers. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, let's keep this in perspective for what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was one of the phenomenal plays in franchise history.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, again credit to Sean Jamison, who's not

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<v Speaker 2>a big fellow, but he's getting after it and he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to have opportunities to play a good bit, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of who comes back when. I think he's shown

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<v Speaker 2>that he's somebody that that coaching staff likes. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of overarching on defense, I mean, they we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this a lot. They've played pretty well. They're third

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<v Speaker 2>in the league and third down defense at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>getting off the field at a twenty seven point something

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<v Speaker 2>clip in that situation, and when you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>parts they've put together, you wouldn't think, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a defense that they can count on. But the results

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<v Speaker 2>have been there, and obviously you see why they go

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<v Speaker 2>out and get Eja this saw season to run this

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<v Speaker 2>defense because he's getting results out of an odd lot

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<v Speaker 2>of players. I always like to use the comparison. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's like one of those cooking shows where you

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<v Speaker 2>get the mystery basket and you got to make a

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<v Speaker 2>meal out of it, because he never knows from one

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<v Speaker 2>week to the next what he's going to have.

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<v Speaker 1>So those guys have been playing well.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll say one thing.

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<v Speaker 4>The snap council looked completely different than they did last year.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean just in terms of the defense getting off

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<v Speaker 4>the field and offense kind of keeping the ball longer.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's that's a trend you want to talk about trends.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember last year specifically, it felt like it was

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<v Speaker 4>always extremely lopsided the other way. Offense could not stay

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<v Speaker 4>on the field, defense could not get off in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, those like fundamental things. That is different

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<v Speaker 4>and that I think that's kind of a good hint

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<v Speaker 4>to a positive direction. Just being able to control the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know, I just those were some

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen some low defenses not kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>It was forty eight last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, forty eight snaps is way below average for an

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<v Speaker 2>NFL game, and especially playing against the Vikings, who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>can move it down the field and did run it

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well, so you would think they would have been

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<v Speaker 2>out there all day.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was it two to thirteen third down conversion? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe, or it was I mean two or one?

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<v Speaker 4>It was expt any extremely Yeah, I know it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so yeah, I think and to think about

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<v Speaker 4>all the attrition of that group's been for you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they're without the soul of their their defense, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>the soul of the team right now.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still around, but he's not on the field with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Shaq Thompson.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's just there's a lot to be built

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<v Speaker 4>off of and it's a testament to EJ for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, before I completely lose my voice in

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<v Speaker 2>any sense of coherent thought. By the way, have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever read Gaytalisa's Frank Sinatra has a cold?

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<v Speaker 3>I have not.

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<v Speaker 2>You should read that as a person who writes in

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<v Speaker 2>exchange for money, that is that is my assignment for

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<v Speaker 2>you at some point in the next month, Not that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like frank Sinatra, though I might start singing any

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<v Speaker 2>moment now, because Frankly, I'm a little punchy. Is it

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<v Speaker 2>time for prowling vineyards, woods and twelve hours of sleep?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but yeah, what you know? Hey, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast. Nobody knows what time it is if we

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell him. But anyway, that will cover us for

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<v Speaker 2>this week of the Happy Half Hour. I'm Darren, She's Augusta.

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<v Speaker 2>Go feel better, Everybody