WEBVTT - 2024 Presidents Cup Preview 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.520 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:04.920 When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.320 And when I find my ball. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.920 In a Frida egg Friday egg, the dreaded Frida egg, 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.840 Friday Frida Egg egg, fridagg brid egg. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.400 Lie, I'm about ready to run off. 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:13.640 Of the hump. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.200 Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Golf Podcast. 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.720 I am your host, Andy Johnson, and today we are 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.320 going to talk about this year's President's Cup. Uh. This 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.480 is obviously a huge event, a international matchplay competition. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:53.239 UH. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:57.840 It's delivered some really great moments. 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We've got a few more coming down the 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:10.000 pipe here, but check it out at the Frida egg 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.600 dot com slash membership And thank you guys for all 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:23.880 of the support. All right, let's get to Sean Smartin. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:28.520 You are on the ground at in Montreal. What is 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.520 this your first time in Montreal? What are your first pressions? 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.200 First time? I was in Saskatchewan earlier this year to 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.960 track down the farmer who almost crashed his tractor watching 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.799 Nick Taylor, whin the Canadian opened last year. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.040 That bumber. That is that he's not here? It is 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.800 that reheat potential for that story. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:49.360 Kind of surprise. Yea, it would have been good reheat. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.239 We're talking maybe some crop circles, you know, with the 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.280 President's cup in it. Unfortunately Nick's not here, so I've seen, 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.679 I feel like all of Canada, the full range, Saskatchewan 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.440 much different vibe than Montreal. So I feel like I've 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.400 had a full Canadian experience, gotten lots of Tim. 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:04.600 Horton's, including this morning. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.720 We might go to a Canadian's preseason game tonight, where 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:09.800 I feel very Canadian. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.720 Has Tim Horton's grown on you at all. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.680 The donuts are disappointing, which when I brought it up 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.520 on Twitter, you got into some I think maybe some 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:23.080 private equity money, or they got sold to a larger 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:27.960 corporation where donut quality has decreased greatly. I compare them 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:32.000 to an American gas station donut, which those have their place. 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.000 I've been known to have one or two at a time, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.880 but the coffee's good. I do like the breakfast sandwiches, 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.040 but the donuts are a big, a big disappointment. The 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:39.840 tim Bits are a no. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.880 Go, the tim fits. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.320 Some Canadians have even agreed with me, so I know 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:46.320 it's a valid opinion. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:52.000 You know, the thing I've heard about from the stem 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.800 from this Nick Taylor not being on the team is 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:59.520 there's apparently like the East versus West Canada beef and 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:04.800 East Canada really looks down on West Canada. Allegedly, this 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.320 is what I've been told, and I could see. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.600 It similar to New York and LA kind of thing. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:14.160 I don't think that exists at all in America. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.240 I mean, we've had rat battles across. 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:20.200 Some people are saying that Nick Taylor didn't get picked 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.960 because he's from West Canada and we'ds from East Canada. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.760 I know some of the guys have had relationships with 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.440 Mike since they were kids, so I could definitely see 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.120 him knowing those guys better and it might have benefited them. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.599 But I could see, you know, Vancouver is kind of 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.039 like our Seattle, I think, and then Toronto's kind of 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.360 like New York, so I could definitely see there's cultural 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:46.080 differences there. And then just to the proximity to captain, 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.919 longer relationships, those things factor into Captain's picks. So I 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.920 could see a little East coast West Coast beef, East 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.200 coast media bias, East coast Captain's bias. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:59.039 Maybe that's that's what I'm hearing. That's what I'm hearing. Allegedly, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:04.880 it's all stantiated rumors. Let's get into it. Let's get 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.160 into what we're excited about or three things we're watching 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.880 for this year's President's Cup. I am just gonna say, 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.599 out of the gate, I think this is gonna be 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:20.400 the best dressed President's Cup team of all time. Be 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.120 dratty and zero restriction. Our log timee partner are clothing 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.839 each team. I think they're gonna be prepared. You know, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:32.159 we're gonna have no weather issues. We're gonna have no 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.640 no issues with any of the being comfortable in Montreal, 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.559 which weather seems like it might be a little factor. 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.760 It's been a little cool there, right. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.760 It is fall weather. There are leaves on the ground. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.120 It is a little maybe damp, but I mean we 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.440 are in the midst of fall. I feel very much 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.000 in a Big ten football setting. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.360 That's good. That's good, all right, Smartan, what's the first 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.119 thing that you're watching us? 0:05:58.240 --> 0:05:59.280 Driving accuracy? 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.960 You know, we know with these road games that the playbook, 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.040 especially in the Ryder Cup, is narrow the fairways, thick 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.680 in the rough. You know, Jim Fierix saw that firsthand 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.479 with that team in twenty eighteen that went over to 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:14.680 Paris and just got decimated. And word is that Mike 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.839 Weir is going to run the same playbook we're talking 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.400 four inch rough. There's been a lot of rain the 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.680 golf course superintendence notes also noted there was a flooding incident, 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.359 I believe, so it's been hard to mow. A little 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.359 bit less control of the course for the captain than 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.400 the Ryder Cup, but Mike did control the pre tournament agronomy, 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.120 and so I think we're thinking big rough. You know, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.720 usually favors the internationals of the Europeans, but US has 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.880 four guys in the top twenty of driving accuracy, Kalin Morikawa, 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:46.800 Brian Harmon, Russell Henley and Scotti Scheffler. Actually who's seventeenth 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.719 and to those guys are captain's picks. I think Russell 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.279 Henley was going to be a captain's pick no matter 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.560 the skill set. Brian Harmon, I think partly for the accuracy, 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.719 and I think you have four guys there who could 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.760 really anchor some foursome's teams. And I think this is 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.240 a team we're driving accuracy might be a strain. They're 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.600 actually a slight advantage over the Internationals. 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.320 Yeah, I mean, I gotta push back here on the strategy. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.560 It's like running out just the strategy that worked six 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:15.280 years ago. Or eight years ago because it worked against 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.640 the US team, but not looking at the individual players, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.440 Like if you look at I mean, I do sympathize 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.880 a bit with Mike Weir. Like if you look at 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:30.040 the US team and you start by looking at Scheffler 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.560 and Xander, I mean, like, what do you do? They're 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:37.440 just better than anybody that you have, So what do 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:41.000 you do? Like, I guess, like, that's the overarching issue 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.960 here is, you know, with trying to set up a 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:48.880 golf courses. Our team is at a big talent deficit 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.800 to the other team, So what do we do? And 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.120 I guess, like, I guess that's where I would I 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:59.640 would probably end up settling on let's muck it up, 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.440 let's make it random, and a few narrow fairways you 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:04.360 make it more random. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.720 When the with a angles kind of movement was first 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.840 being talked about, you know, Jeff Ogilvy was one of 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.440 these proponents that narrow fairways thick rough really takes a 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.280 lot of skill out of it because instead of the 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.280 opportunity for the incredible recovery shot where players can really 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:21.160 show their ability to shape shots and hit incredible recoveries, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.880 instead thick rough you reduce it to a pitch out, 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.600 which is a shot that I mean anyone can execute. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.760 And so you bring in some randomness and you actually 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:35.600 do possibly handcuff a team when you have this this 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.679 thicker rough. So it's a playbook that works. And it's 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.600 also not one we've seen in the President's Cup because 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.200 two of the last three Road President's Cups were Royal Montreal, 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.360 which is not exactly a place you're going to narrow 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.679 fairways and grow thick rough So this is a little 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:47.439 different dynamic. 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:52.120 Royal Melbourne, Royal Melbourne. Yeah, sorry, it's okay. You know, 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:53.840 it's early for everybody. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.280 All these Royal golf courses. I'm in the presence of Royalty. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:58.319 I can't keep it all straight. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.480 How about this being the first row, Royal Montreal being 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:06.080 the first Royal club given royal status outside of outside 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:06.600 of the UK. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.560 It is interesting and it might be one of your 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.880 things or mine, but uh, it's the oldest golf club 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:17.200 in North America, Royal Montreal. I mean that's their claim, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.600 you know, organization, but the golf course. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:25.960 Everybody, everybody claims this. There's there's thirty courses in the world, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.480 and I think in the world, not just North America 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.920 that would make this claim. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:33.280 Well, it only has to compete against the ones in 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.360 North America because it does say it's the oldest in 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:35.960 North America. 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.280 But the golf course, See someone I'm saying, I could 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.680 see a course this claims so preposterous. I could see 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:45.640 a course in like in a different continent claiming this. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.720 I always thought it was Saint Andrews in New York 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.120 that was the oldest in North America. 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:49.960 It was the oldest thing. 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.720 What about Chicago golf? What about the golf course that C. B. 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:58.679 MacDonald went and played in Lake Forest, Illinois? That like, no, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.960 kind of like arms the hat I got on today, 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:07.840 but the you know he he played, he played golf 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.040 in a yard basically, like is that the first golf course? 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.480 I mean part of what Royal Montreal was is basically 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.680 there was a park in Montreal and they were hitting 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:17.520 golf shots in it and then I guess eventually put 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.400 in some holes. So, you know, the golf club designation 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.760 for anyone back then was I think fairly loose. You know, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.640 you didn't you just kind of hit shots in a park, 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:30.400 kind of like Brunsfield Links in Edinburgh, which is always 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:31.840 my favorite golf experiences. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.120 The uh, there's a place in Charleston too, there was 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.840 like there was apparently golf in Charleston very early too. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.320 They try and make a claim too. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.280 Bruncefield is one of the most terrifying golf courses in 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.640 the world because all the holes are like seventy yards. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.520 You're in some park with like unkept turf and you're 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.120 trying to nip like a little wedge with cars parked 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:52.920 right behind the green. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.160 It is. It is not for the faint of heart. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.839 I do think, like irrationally, cars are the scariest thing 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.480 you could put near a golf course. It's not like 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.839 we're not worried about other people, you know, We're less 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:10.360 worried about people and the idea of like seriously injuring 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.120 a person than we are about breaking a windshield. Like 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.360 when you think about that, it's kind of messed up. Right. 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:19.920 The golf course I grew up on was a real 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.120 short course, like five thousand yards, but the one like 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.360 true hole was this five point fifty par five. It 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.120 was a dog like left with a road on the left, 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:32.720 and it was a terrifying t shot. We're really just 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.800 we're right on track, yeah, I mean, if you want 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:37.880 to pivot to your next thing. 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.199 Yeah, well I was gonna kick it. I was gonna say, 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.720 is there anything about the golf course that you're particularly 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.520 outside of the fairway lines? Is there any thing about 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.920 the golf course that you're excited about or is this 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.000 kind of just a course? It feels like it feels 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.320 like compared to like Royal Melbourne, which is probably an 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.720 unfair comparison, it does feel like just kind of a course. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:01.839 I haven't had a chance to walk it yet. 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:02.000 I mean. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.320 The interesting thing going back to that oldest club designation 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.640 is the golf course itself is a mid twentieth century 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.199 Dick Wilson, so the guy who designed bay Hill, Durrell. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.160 It's a very parkland golf course. There's a lot of 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.800 just grass, a lot of places to hit it. I 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.560 haven't seen anything super distinguishing on the you know part 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.160 with Royal Mont or Royal Melbourne if you will, But 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.440 it's just super parkland vibes. I think it's just it'll 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.440 be a good setting for the matches themselves. It's the 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.240 stage and then obviously the the competition is kind of 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:33.040 the focus. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:38.640 Yeah, all right, My first thing that I have that 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:43.439 I am most excited about. I is first time orsatheth 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:48.920 the Gala, obviously a player that we've seen kind of 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:53.840 ascend in the last year. And what I'm excited about 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.800 is that this is just a fun player to watch. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.839 It's a uh, it's a He's got a tremendous personality. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.240 I think, like in terms of PGA Tour players, he 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:09.080 is very much the opposite of your stock PGA Tour player. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:14.520 He is He's extremely friendly. He has a game that 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.000 he hits a lot of different shots, like it's not 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.199 a just like he just hits the same shot all 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.400 the time. Like he's got great a wide array of 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.760 shots around the greens. And I just think his personality 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:33.000 and energy are very unique for the modern game. So 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:37.520 I am extraordinarily excited about him. He's up to eleventh 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:42.280 of the world. Him getting his debut in these team competitions. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.920 He could be somebody that becomes kind of a lynchpin, 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:52.559 a you know, like a a player that like energizes 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.320 the rest of the team. So Saha Tagala first Tiber 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.320 is one of the things that I am watching. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.760 I think he's a guy that guys are going to 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:03.680 be lining up to play with. I think everyone in 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.679 that team room would like a chance to play with him. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.920 He's a guy that I love in Forsom's actually because 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.080 the biggest thing with Force them is you hate making 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.160 mistakes and putting your partner in a bad spot. And 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.560 there might be no one better on the PGA tour 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.640 right now, both on approach play and short game of 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.320 just creating shots and getting out of bad situations than 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.000 Saw hit the Gala. Because it used to be such 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.960 a wild driver that he had to and he's got 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.040 a crazy set of hands. But now actually his driving 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.160 is much improved, and it's why he's had the best 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.320 year of his career because now he can actually he's 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.520 keeping it in play more often. But I mean, that 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.720 is a guy who, like you said, hits all the shots, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.240 amazing recovery shots, and so I love him in Force 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:39.920 Them's for that reason. 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.800 He's like a safety net. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.520 All right, what's your what's your next thing? 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.640 I'm gonna go captain's picks, you know. For the especially US, 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.000 we have two people here myself and Paul Hodawanak. Paul's 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.160 folks on international team on the US, so most of 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.840 my research has been US base, giving you this shirt wearing. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.160 It's just shipped over. I am wearing a zero restriction vest. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.040 I think I got it back at the Thoroughbread. So 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.880 it's several years old, but still one of my favorite, uh, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.440 one of my favorite pieces. It's a great vest warm but. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.400 Slam, I think I get you a box of gear. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.160 I don't want to. I don't want to infringe on 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.880 your straight down partnership. 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.680 I wasn't gonna mention names. I do have loyalties to 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.880 another clothing company. I didn't want to come onto this 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:24.160 pod and violate the agreements. 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.320 All right, I was. I'm happy to, you know, say 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:26.920 you're a straight down ambassador. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.720 But the US Captain's picks, you know, whether it's coincidence 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.640 or not, Jim went number seven through twelve on the 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:34.320 points list. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:36.400 Do you think it was a coincidence? 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:42.280 I I don't know. I it seems like I don't. 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.800 It feels like, hey, these guys earned it. They were 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.880 seven through twelve. I'm not going to bump anyone off 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.440 the team. They earned it, they deserve it. It's a very 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:56.000 you know, player's mentality for his fellow players. But there's 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.520 especially I think, you know, with Max, I mean even Max, 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.320 I think would admit there's probably pressure on him that 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.600 he's got to perform, and it's been a tough season. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.480 I mean I was out there in Memphis when he 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.760 was in he finished last, and that was a guy 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.680 on the range, frustrated and searching. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.960 And then even at BMW he was near. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.800 Last through most of the tournament, shot a fine around 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.600 sixty seven, said he found something, but then he missed 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.440 the cut at Silverado just a couple of weeks ago. 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.920 So you know that's one where you look at Max 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.440 and you wonder should you have taken justin Thomas. Obviously, 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.640 Billy Horsechel's BMWPGA win makes Peo one rough Billy, but 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.320 I hate he can't he can't go back. In hindsight, 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.640 I think Billy was making a strong case. He was 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.640 playing really well after the Open, but faded maybe a 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.240 little bit at the last two events and really when 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.680 he needed to play well for I think another two weeks. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.480 But I just think maybe he was just tired. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:46.760 He could have been. 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.640 It's hard. It's hard being Billy, you know it is. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.160 He's got a lot of he's got a lot of appligations. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.000 He's his motor runs hot. I mean, he's a high 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.720 energy guy. He's putting, he's leaving nothing on the field. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.320 How about his pensity is a knack? Because to use 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:06.280 another sports term, you know, like they say football players, 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.679 this guy's just gotten knacked for the ball defensive player 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.879 on football. Billy's just got a knack for winning events 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.719 after international competition teams have been picked. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:18.600 He does. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.200 And I mean I saw some you know, tweets about, 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.440 oh I wish Billy was the President's Cup. Oh wait, 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.159 he's not. And it's like, what are you gonna do? 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.560 I mean, it's I'm actually I'm kind of surprised three 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.600 the international guys played the BMWPGA. And I mean, obviously 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.800 you're going the opps away across the Atlantic, but flying 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.400 across the Atlantic on Sunday before last Ye's Ryder Cup 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.680 really hurt the US team. And I was surprised that 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.879 three guys from the international team played the BMWPGA. 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.439 Especially with the Thursday start. It's like the Cup with 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.359 the Friday, Like if it's Friday, I could see, like 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:53.160 you feel probably fine coming back that way, right. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:54.760 I mean, I was doing a little math. I asked 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.840 to actually radar at List. I asked him how long 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.240 a private jet flight from London to Montreal is it's 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.439 only five and a half hours, and so if they 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.000 wrapped up at let's say four pm, let's say wheels 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.639 up at five, you're leaving at Nune Montreal time. You 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.120 could hypothetically be on the ground at five or six 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.800 pm Sunday. So it's doable, I guess. But I mean 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.639 to me, I'm not just being a PGA to her Homer, 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.320 but the pro Core felt like a much easier warm 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:18.840 up event. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.480 Well, the you don't get to play the week before. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.520 Though, right, but you also have jet lag. I mean, 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.640 I look, I'm soft when it comes to jet lag. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.320 I get jet lag going from Florida to California, so 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:30.600 I do everything to avoid it. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.920 So, because I just dealt with the toddler switching time 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.840 zones for a couple of days, a short, short trip, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:39.040 which is not fun. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:40.920 Their body clocks don't adjust. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:46.359 No, No, it was up late, then up early because 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.159 it was light out. You know it's still you should 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.200 still be sleeping. And you know, she'd look as she 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:56.040 pulled the shades up, it's light out, Like, what do 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:56.959 you say back to that? 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:58.080 Wait, don't they get a clock? 0:18:58.160 --> 0:18:59.879 My kids now have clocks in their bed and it 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.320 like you can sleep as late as you want, Like 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:03.680 if you're tired of stay in bed, Like no, I'm 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:05.399 getting up at six thirty. I get up at six thirty. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.639 It doesn't matter. They just they won't sleep late. So 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.200 I don't know why they hate sleep. I'm like, just sleep, 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:12.600 It's fine, it's great. 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.919 Here's the here's the course thing that I'm watching. 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.440 Is this your second thing? I've did like four things. Sorry, 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:19.120 so we'll get your second. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.600 Okay, this is good. You know, this is great course 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.760 thing that I'm watching. Uh, all the part threes are 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:31.640 odd numbers. This is just a unique little wrinkle for 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:38.760 foursomes uh and alternate shot. So I mean, and this 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.160 is a great way to analyze captains of what they're doing. 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:48.240 We love there's nothing that viewers left board. Then is 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.640 the lump blame on the captains totally? So we could 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:57.199 say that there is captain malpractice if somebody in forsomes 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.200 puts a bad iron player on the odd whole, definitely 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.760 or a great putter on the even holes. 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:06.200 Yep. 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.639 So you have the ability here to this is like 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.400 kind of like nerdy in the weeds, like if you 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.280 like alternate shot. This is like a kind of a 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.440 really cool setup in the sense that it's so slanted 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.920 to the odd holes with the iron play, so put 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.879 your best players. Put your best iron player on an 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.119 odd hole. This is an opportunity to create kind of 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.040 these teams where you have like great iron players. I 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:34.840 think one of the unique things is I think Mike 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.840 Weir was thinking about this with his Captain's picks. He 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.240 talked about putting, which is like kind of like a 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.359