WEBVTT - EDDIE OSUCH - Designing Dinner 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.280 Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.320 I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:12.719 very very special guest Eddie oh Such from Neo and 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:17.280 Associate's architectural firm. Yes, yes, did I say it right? 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.760 That was close enough. This is a special tree for 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.320 me because Eddie and I are I would say friends 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:28.360 slash acquaintances. More on the acquaintance aside. Eddie and I 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:32.400 worked together previously, and everyone from probably do get questions 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:38.440 about these Neo cups. This is what happens when you 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.120 get a random phone call, like I know you designed 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.920 these amazing beautiful buildings in Los Angeles. You designed these 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.880 beautiful homes, and I know you don't really know me, 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.800 but I have this idea for a podcast called Eating 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.480 Wild Broke. I don't even know why you didn't hang 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.440 up on me. And we need a table. Have you 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:03.160 ever considered drawing a table or like not drawing creating 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:07.000 a table for us, even though you designed these massive, 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.839 beautiful pieces of work, And not only are you gonna 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.000 do this table, but yeah, it's it's probably gonna have 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.360 to be on the house. And Eddie was kind enough 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.720 not to hang up or laugh at me. He actually 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.480 took the call very serious. You did, and he like, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.920 I mean it was like, what do you what do 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.920 they call those when you present the drawings and they're 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:29.880 like three D and. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.440 Oh we had it fully rendered for you. We had 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.440 it fully We had a full three D presentation of 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:36.080 it for you. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.319 It was like I paid for it. It was real professional. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:44.080 There was teams involved, and I can't thank you enough. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:45.960 So the table that a lot of people don't get 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.280 to take full advantage of that we cook on every 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:53.360 day was designed by Eddie, who again designs some really 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.680 beautiful buildings so easily could have hung up. And so 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.160 we always pay tribute to Eddie on every episode with 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.880 the cups so and and and then. It took me 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.000 almost three seasons to get you on the show, not 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.560 because of Eddie, of course, because he's a supporter, but 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.040 because of me. I wanted to make sure that we 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.840 honored you at a at a certain peak of the show, 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:20.280 not just in the beginning when everything goes wrong. But 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.720 it is a pleasure to have you. I'm really excited 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.040 to get into your journey as an architect and someone 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.320 that founded and has a successful firm here in Los Angeles. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.200 So thank you, thank you for your support, and thank 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.919 you for going above and beyond. Is the first architect 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.800 to probably ever jump in front of the camera. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.760 Oh well, thank you very much. I'm not sure where 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:41.040 to look. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:03:08.840 But okay, now that you are officially in the eating 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.480 while broke kitchen, I gotta ask, what will you be 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.280 having me eat today? 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.440 Well, today we're gonna be having mabo tofu. And this 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:22.720 is a dish when my wife and I when we 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:27.560 didn't have much, We didn't have anything really, and we 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.440 had to find a way to get by. And it 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.119 was a difficult time. We didn't have Like I said, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.119 we didn't have much. We didn't we couldn't go out, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.440 we couldn't enjoy, you know, just the normal day to 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.640 day life. So we needed to find something to sustain us. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:47.560 So wow, and even though you haven't started cooking yet, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.080 this room literally smells good. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.240 Oh good. I can only screw it up so much. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.480 Yeah, so this looks like a lot of moving parts 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:03.160 for you, said, Moba tofu mob my bow, sofu. Okay, 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:08.240 So what are the ingredients for this dish? 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.480 Well, the the the bass ingredients. I'm going to go 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.120 across the table here, we've cut up some tofu. That's 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:20.839 the bass underneath, and we have ground pork that we 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:25.240 had as well. And beyond that, it's a bunch of spices. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:32.200 I mean there's the the shallats, the ginger, and the garlic. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.440 I mean that these are all my pieces for that. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.560 There's more more things. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.960 I have the green shallot well, and the green onions. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.480 I have green onions, green onions, garlic, ginger, shallats, And 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.360 this is my mix of all those things to throw 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:48.680 in with the. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.599 Be okay okay, And then what are all these other 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.000 sauces and stuff? 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.240 So yeah, that's the all the stuff that you would 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.040 cut up and put together. And then on this side 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:04.839 is we have our chicken broth and actually there's a 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.320 pre mix here for you for everyone at home. And 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:13.200 then we have some sea salt, some some white pepper 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.440 corn starch, and then we come down with you know, 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:21.520 the normal oil, oyster sauce uh uh soy sauce, and 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:22.360 then sesame oil. 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.480 And what's the clear the clear bottle. 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.400 The clear bottle. Oh, that's the rice wine. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:32.640 Sorry, rice wine. Yes, okay, this I absolutely hate tofu, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.599 but I feel like this is gonna be the best 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.800 tofu we've ever had, and I would have said it 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.920 would have been the best vegan dish. But I am 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.800 saved by the grace of ground port today. Right, Yes, 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:48.440 oh you have ground port, so go ahead start cooking. Okay, 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.919 let's hope the stove is plugged in. Yes, let's see. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.000 Okay, which one did you have? Okay? 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.280 Did it light? Did you see a little light? 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.040 Go on? Oh yeah, I got it perfect. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.320 All right. We have no insurance here. It's usually pretty fake, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:07.080 so try not to burn yourself on our stove. Okay, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.440 But take me back to what was going on between 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.200 you and your wife and this. I'm guessing this was 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:13.960 a daily meal. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:22.360 Uh yeah, Well, when I completed college, I had nothing. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:28.760 It was ninety four and there was the economy was horrible. 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.840 There was nothing for architects, and my wife just kept 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:34.640 sending out resumes hoping. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.320 Now, were you guys married in college or no? 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:39.880 I we got married after. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.039 Okay, So she like, she was like, oh, you broke 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.680 but you got a plan, so I'm gonna help you. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.120 Yeah yeah, and she took one for the team and 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:49.039 married you anywhere. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.960 Oh yeah, I was definitely the diamond and the rough. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.680 I'm adding some oil here just to get get this 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:59.960 going for the dish. And yeah, she really took the 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.640 leap of faith on me. H, really leap of faith 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.200 I had. I had nothing. I had two you know 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:09.720 that didn't have the pot to pee in. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.600 Okay, that's beautiful. I like that. And you guys are 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.280 still together? Oh how many years later is this now? 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.280 Oh oh, this is a tough question since. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.280 Oh see, this is where he's gonna mess up the interview. 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.200 We say, how long have you been married to your wife? 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.360 I how long have I been married? 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.720 Oh my god, I'm gonna call your kids of twenty nine? 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.320 Twenty nine years? Okay there, yeah, don't worry. We're gonna 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.800 try to edit this episode so you don't get in 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:34.520 the doghouse. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.240 I put in like twenty eight and twenty seven or 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.280 thirty one or thirty, and then you can cut in 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:41.000 which one works. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.480 Oh my god, no, twenty nine years shoutowtns to twenty 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.239 nine years of marriage started from the bottom, now we hear. Okay, 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:52.080 so you leave college. Your wife is submitting resumes so 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.400 you can get a job. Yeah wow, and now you 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.840 own your own firm. This is amazing. Okay, So what 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.520 happened you got a job? Did she did she actually 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:02.640 get help you get one? 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:08.360 Yes, she did. She actually I had to go off 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.320 for a trip back to my family, and she decided 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.440 while I was gone that she actually sent out one 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.800 hundred and one hundred and twenty resumes. And this is 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.320 back when you actually had to type them all up, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:21.600 all individual I only got. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.840 Oh you mean she wasn't like making copies. No, oh 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.280 my gosh, she wasn't just like editing the names in 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.400 the first sentence. No, oh my gosh, this is you 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.640 know what I low Keithaw only like people in the 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.800 hood kind of did this, Like why can't men do resumes? 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.960 But now you are proving that it's just a male. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.599 Maybe a lot of males don't do resumes. Resumes. 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:49.240 Yeah, So the next week is we're gonna throw this in. No, 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.000 she she sent them all out, and I finally I 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.600 got like three interviews out of it. So in here 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:55.959 is my garlic. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.920 You canna touch it. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 0:08:58.920 --> 0:08:59.360 freak out. 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.079 Okay, just be careful with the pork. 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.240 Okay, yeah, yeah, I got gloves for that for you. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.200 All right, So you're you're saw tanging the garlic in 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.920 the in the different vegetables for seasoning, like the onions 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:12.320 and all that. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:13.000 Yeah. 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.760 Okay, So so she sends out the resumes while you're 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:17.320 out of town. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.600 Yeah, and then I came back and I had I 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:26.040 had three interviews and out of one hundred and one 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.840 hundred she'll correct me later, it's like one hundred and 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:33.239 thirty resumes that she sent out. We got three people responded, 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:34.920 and out of those, I got one job offered. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.120 Wow. Wow, So it was tough for architects for real. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.520 Yeah, it was really bad. Okay, So I think I'm 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.000 supposed to add now, I'm supposed. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.600 To go ahead, and I just want to just share 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.880 with you guys a little behind the scenes. This just 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:52.880 a testament to his wife and his family. Two of 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.680 your children showed up here. Your wife had labeled this, 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.319 this is how how, this is the type of woman 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.880 you guys want. Right here, she was like, look, I'm 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.760 gonna make sure you don't feed Coleen a terrible meal. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.800 So she like added all these post its so you 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.360 don't mess it up. I love it all right, So 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.480 you get the job. Then what happened? You can just 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:16.240 put it right here for. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:22.040 Now okay, okay, here's a napkin, thank you, and uh yeah, 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.760 so I get the job, and uh, it still wasn't 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.720 paying that much. I was still barely getting by, but 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.040 you know, it was enough for us to get out 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.960 and get into a small apartment. And and then she 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.840 she always had the better job at the beginning. 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.280 Okay, okay, so she was so she had a job 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.760 while she was doing the resumes or was it was 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.840 she she got a job right after you got a job. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.600 No, actually she had she already had a job. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:53.880 Okay, your wife is looking like a superhero right now. Yeah, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.720 you'd go home and some flowers for her today. Okay, okay, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.080 so you get the job. What's the experience looking like? 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.559 How did you like working this job? 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:09.120 Oh? It was the very first one. It was the 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:13.280 best part actually was coming home to my wife. And 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:21.240 then uh but it worked, and uh it was still 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.600 wasn't getting paid that much. I was still we were 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:28.760 still this struggling you know, you know, you know in 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.360 the relationship, you know, when you're starting out, you don't 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:38.880 really have anything, and things like for what was it 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:40.440 for one year? 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:43.800 He was one of those wooden ones. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:55.000 You're struggling yeah, just a little too hard. Jesus, you 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:59.800 want to you could pull that out and just yeah, 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:00.800 maybe we need to take. 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:06.199 Yeah, because we're only cooking for two, So go on, just. 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.560 Let me break I'm almost okay, I just sive it, 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:15.160 coordinate myself here, ah, there we go. She left that 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:22.760 in the refrigerator last night. But okay, so we were 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:28.920 for for romantic gifts. I still remember one year, instead 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.760 of for for Valentine's Day, we bought each other major appliances. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:37.920 It's like, I really love you. Here's a refrigerator. And 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.320 because we couldn't go out and eat anywhere, we had to, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.640 you know, we had to stay at home. And it's 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.920 just so everything had to eventually come out of the fridge. 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.200 And my wife, of course, became a more and more 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.560 pronounced chef or cook and then once in a while 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:58.200 she had enough faith to let me cook, but wasn't 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:58.760 too often. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.240 Do you now, Do you cook at home now more 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:02.960 regularly since those times? 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:08.800 Oh yeah, we eat at home almost two thirds of 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:14.280 the time, even more. Okay, we actually really enjoy eating 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.040 at home. The quality is better. We trust it, we 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.600 know what we're getting. Yeah, watch, we just kill myself 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:19.800 on this. 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:24.760 Yeah, I see, I see it. Kids behind the camera 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:25.280 like like. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:28.959 Laughing, hyster. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.120 Do you have that fire? Ups? Is that high? 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:32.839 Is it about? 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:34.240 You have it really high too? 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:35.760 I just moved it higher. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.920 Yeah. Okay, okay, So you guys are going through this 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.880 face you have the day job, like, let's inch closer 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:45.760 to Neo and associates. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.280 Well, actually, there's one last story. Can I get in 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.520 that We we were at a point before I got 0:13:54.559 --> 0:14:00.200 to Neo. We you had said bring in those emotional point. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.480 It's like, I remember we we were still struggling and 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.320 we barely had anything. We thought, oh this runaway to 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:13.240 have a lunch or something at Santa Barbara, right, And 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.920 I remember to this day we wanted to take money 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.000 out to pay for dinner and I couldn't take it 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.320 out because we only had eighteen dollars in our time. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:21.840 Oh wow. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:27.520 Yeah. And at that time, at that moment, that was 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.000 the magical moment where we kind of looked at each 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.160 other and it was said, we are never going to 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.720 be in this situation ever again. We're not going to 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.120 run from everything and imagine everything will be fine. We're 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.560 going to face our fears and build for the future. Wow. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:45.480 Yeah, so it was from that moment. 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:47.800 Yeah, that was the pivotal moment. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.840 So wait, did you, like, did you look into bankcount 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.320 before you pull up to the restaurant? You pulled up 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.680 to the restaurant and realized this is really reality? 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.520 Like right before we got to the restaurant, there was 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.400 like an ATM there. I was like, oh, pull out 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:05.440 some cash and pay, and yeah, I was just I 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.640 can't take any money out. There's no money there. So 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:09.440 that was hard. 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.080 And then how did that make you feel? I hate 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:14.680 to do this, but how did it make you feel 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:15.120 as a man? 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:20.080 At that moment, I felt like I was working for nothing. 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.840 I was just spinning my wheels. Here's I couldn't have 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:29.240 a family. I you know, I couldn't even pay for dinner, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.600 which is actually when I first met my wife, she 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:35.880 actually paid for my dinner. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:40.440 But oh wow, yeah, oh okay, yeah she liked you, 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.720 she loved you, yes, okay, okay. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.840 But yeah, I remember though, when we were there and 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.720 on our drive back, we had a lot of time 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:53.280 to think from from Santa Barbara like this is horrible. 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.040 You know, this is not where we want to be, 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.560 and we got to take better care of you. You 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.960 know each other in our future. So yeah, it was yeah, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.080 that kind of And as a guy, you know, trying 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.440 to provide and you have a job, you think you 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:16.280 have it all together and you don't. You know, you 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.320 get reminded that you don't have anything. 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.120 So now that you guys have a game plan on, like, look, 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.360 we're no longer going to live this fantasy that things 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.240 are just going to turn out great. What was that 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:27.320 next step after that? 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:36.320 Uh? We I look, I found this guy that was 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:41.320 dealing and uh it seems it didn't it doesn't matter 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.880 right now, but he would show you how to get 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.520 a house, like no money down, that kind of thing, 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:50.600 and and I I was really trying to figure out 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.120 how to get a house, you know, how do you 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:53.680 get a house? 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.960 Like I'm broke, but let's let's go and super the stars. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:01.720 Okay, So no, we came back and it was just like, honey, 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.960 we you know, well, actually she gave me the ultimatum. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:09.359 She said, I said I want a family, and she 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:15.440 said we don't have a house. And I'm like, okay, well, 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.440 well she's given me the path forward here, that's for sure. 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.080 Yeah, yeah, I need a little bit. 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.040 This is actually starting to cook. Now, this is good. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:24.119 Yeah, this is a good thing. 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:30.920 You need just a little pinch of salt, okay, and 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:35.000 then a little bit of white pepper. Number one. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.320 I've never seen white pepper before. Is there a reason 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:38.960 why white pepper is used instead of black? 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.680 It has a totally different flavor? 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:51.560 Really, can I see it? Oh gosh, white peppers should 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:55.560 not be slept on. It's like it almost says like 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.879 garlic pepper, salt, garlic powder and salt almost mixed together. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.320 Yeah, it does. That's a good it's. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.639 It's by far. I'm gonna start looking at white pepper 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.720 definitely in the future. So okay, shout outs to white pepper. 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.760 All right, so you you're on mission. I want a family, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.399 She says, that's okay, we just need to not have 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:14.760 them in a tent, got it? 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.080 Yes, all right. Yeah. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.080 So you start going on the hunt for homes and 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.320 you bump into someone that says you can get a house. 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.720 You can, you know, here's all these different ways to 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:29.160 find this. And then I ended up finding a duplex okay, yeah, 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:30.480 and I still live in it today. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:31.080 Okay. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.959 Yeah. Uh so I was like, well, I can't afford 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.359 it to pay for it. I need someone else to 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:38.040 help you. 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.440 Watch out you Mike right there. Oh okay, it's okay, Okay, 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:43.879 so you can't. So you got a duplex, you got 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.440 an investment property and this was in California. Yeah, shout 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.240 outs to you. Okay, yeah, so you get the duplex 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:51.400 with no money down or. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.800 Yeah, yeah, it's kind of we we we big borrowed 0:18:55.800 --> 0:19:00.720 and steal Okay, well, uh, you know, we uh asked 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:05.280 some relatives. They helped us out. There's different financing available. 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:09.080 We you know, scrounged what little savings we had, and 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.639 we had enough enough to get in and then you know, 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.760 fortunately the the rents on the place were due like 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.080 right away, and then we also got an additional loan 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.639 for some you know, fixing it up and stuff a 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:23.080 little bit. 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.119 Oh you guys didn't move into it right away. 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.200 We did, We actually lived. And that comes to the 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.959 next I guess down down the tough spot is I 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.040 remember when we were still now we had a house, 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:41.800 but we still had nothing. We literally sat on boxes 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.880 that was it, and we've you know, then again that's 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.480 what that's where we found out that the refrigerator is 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.320 the most important room of the house. And yeah, we 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.359 would literally sit on box as well. The place was 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.440 getting you know, while we were trying to fix the 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.680 place up. It was. It was bad. 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.199 Yeah, but you did have a tenant. 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.719 Yeah, we had a tenant for the other unit, but 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:21.760 the one we were in was fairly you know. Okay, 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.320 So I think the next thing I'm supposed to do is, 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:29.160 let me see I need a little bit, a little 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.000 bit of wine in this number one. 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.080 I love, I love, I love, I love the level 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:42.000 of commitment. So so you guys are in the house. 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:45.640 You're still work in a day job, now you are? 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.320 You like, all right, day one, let's pop out some babies. 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.119 So you guys got She's like, well you got to 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:53.120 make sure that you know the sinks work and everything 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.879 is functioning in the house. Yes, okay. And then now 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.440 was the architects and you like looking at it like, 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.640 oh my god, this is the best project I've ever 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:02.480 given myself. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.560 No, I was just like, oh, this is just barely 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:10.400 sustaining me, and I need to We're adding some more 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:16.159 oyster sauce to still a little bit. She warned me 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:22.359 about this. It's really pretty thick. A little bit more. 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:31.800 Then there we go. Okay, So no, we ended up waiting. Overall, 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:36.040 from the time we were married until kids was a little 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:36.760 over five years. 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:41.240 Okay, okay, okay, So those five years you guys were grinding. 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:47.640 Just yeah, it was. Yeah. Those those are tough. Yeah, 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.280 especially you see, you know, for friends and family around 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:55.119 you succeeding, You're just like, oh, is it ever going 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:55.960 to change for us? 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:56.760 Yeah? 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.959 And uh, you know, then we had the kids, and 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:06.600 then uh the next time when we didn't have anything, 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:14.000 my my wife got laid off when we had when 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:18.720 we had our first child. So yeah, we were back 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:27.280 to struggle. Yeah, back to Okay, so I think I'm 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.520 just about cooked here. So the next thing I gotta 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:36.760 do is this bowl after we get it all ready here. 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:44.399 So after your first child, she is is at this point, 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:47.200 is she gonna stay a stay at home parent. 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:53.199 Yeah. We decided at that point we're gonna, you know, 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:57.560 bootstrap ourselves and struggle through it and make it happen. 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.840 And uh yeah we we. The first thing that happened was, oh, 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:08.800 you know, no more coffee out, no more. Yeah, the 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:12.240