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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: very very special guest Eddie oh Such from Neo and

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Speaker 1: Associate's architectural firm. Yes, yes, did I say it right?

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Speaker 1: That was close enough. This is a special tree for

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Speaker 1: me because Eddie and I are I would say friends

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Speaker 1: slash acquaintances. More on the acquaintance aside. Eddie and I

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Speaker 1: worked together previously, and everyone from probably do get questions

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Speaker 1: about these Neo cups. This is what happens when you

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Speaker 1: get a random phone call, like I know you designed

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Speaker 1: these amazing beautiful buildings in Los Angeles. You designed these

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Speaker 1: beautiful homes, and I know you don't really know me,

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Speaker 1: but I have this idea for a podcast called Eating

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Speaker 1: Wild Broke. I don't even know why you didn't hang

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Speaker 1: up on me. And we need a table. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever considered drawing a table or like not drawing creating

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Speaker 1: a table for us, even though you designed these massive,

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Speaker 1: beautiful pieces of work, And not only are you gonna

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Speaker 1: do this table, but yeah, it's it's probably gonna have

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Speaker 1: to be on the house. And Eddie was kind enough

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Speaker 1: not to hang up or laugh at me. He actually

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Speaker 1: took the call very serious. You did, and he like,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was like, what do you what do

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Speaker 1: they call those when you present the drawings and they're

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Speaker 1: like three D and.

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Speaker 2: Oh we had it fully rendered for you. We had

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Speaker 2: it fully We had a full three D presentation of

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Speaker 1: It was like I paid for it. It was real professional.

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Speaker 1: There was teams involved, and I can't thank you enough.

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Speaker 1: So the table that a lot of people don't get

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Speaker 1: to take full advantage of that we cook on every

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Speaker 1: day was designed by Eddie, who again designs some really

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Speaker 1: beautiful buildings so easily could have hung up. And so

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Speaker 1: we always pay tribute to Eddie on every episode with

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Speaker 1: the cups so and and and then. It took me

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Speaker 1: almost three seasons to get you on the show, not

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Speaker 1: because of Eddie, of course, because he's a supporter, but

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Speaker 1: because of me. I wanted to make sure that we

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Speaker 1: honored you at a at a certain peak of the show,

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Speaker 1: not just in the beginning when everything goes wrong. But

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Speaker 1: it is a pleasure to have you. I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: to get into your journey as an architect and someone

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Speaker 1: that founded and has a successful firm here in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you for your support, and thank

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Speaker 1: you for going above and beyond. Is the first architect

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Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you very much. I'm not sure where

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Speaker 1: But okay, now that you are officially in the eating

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Speaker 1: while broke kitchen, I gotta ask, what will you be

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Speaker 1: having me eat today?

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Speaker 2: Well, today we're gonna be having mabo tofu. And this

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Speaker 2: is a dish when my wife and I when we

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Speaker 2: didn't have much, We didn't have anything really, and we

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Speaker 2: was a difficult time. We didn't have Like I said,

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Speaker 2: we didn't have much. We didn't we couldn't go out,

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Speaker 2: we couldn't enjoy, you know, just the normal day to

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Speaker 2: day life. So we needed to find something to sustain us.

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Speaker 1: So wow, and even though you haven't started cooking yet,

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Speaker 1: this room literally smells good.

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Speaker 2: Oh good. I can only screw it up so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this looks like a lot of moving parts

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Speaker 1: for you, said, Moba tofu mob my bow, sofu. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So what are the ingredients for this dish?

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Speaker 2: Well, the the the bass ingredients. I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: across the table here, we've cut up some tofu. That's

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Speaker 2: the bass underneath, and we have ground pork that we

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Speaker 2: I mean there's the the shallats, the ginger, and the garlic.

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Speaker 2: I mean that these are all my pieces for that.

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Speaker 1: There's more more things.

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Speaker 2: I have the green shallot well, and the green onions.

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Speaker 2: I have green onions, green onions, garlic, ginger, shallats, And

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Speaker 2: this is my mix of all those things to throw

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Speaker 1: Be okay okay, And then what are all these other

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the all the stuff that you would

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Speaker 2: then we have some sea salt, some some white pepper

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Speaker 1: And what's the clear the clear bottle.

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Speaker 2: The clear bottle. Oh, that's the rice wine.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, rice wine. Yes, okay, this I absolutely hate tofu,

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Speaker 1: tofu we've ever had, and I would have said it

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Speaker 1: would have been the best vegan dish. But I am

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Speaker 1: saved by the grace of ground port today. Right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: oh you have ground port, so go ahead start cooking. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's hope the stove is plugged in. Yes, let's see.

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Speaker 2: Okay, which one did you have? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Did it light? Did you see a little light?

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Speaker 2: Go on? Oh yeah, I got it perfect.

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Speaker 1: All right. We have no insurance here. It's usually pretty fake,

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Speaker 1: so try not to burn yourself on our stove. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But take me back to what was going on between

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Speaker 1: you and your wife and this. I'm guessing this was

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Speaker 1: a daily meal.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Well, when I completed college, I had nothing.

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Speaker 2: It was ninety four and there was the economy was horrible.

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Speaker 2: There was nothing for architects, and my wife just kept

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Speaker 2: sending out resumes hoping.

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Speaker 1: Now, were you guys married in college or no?

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Speaker 2: I we got married after.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So she like, she was like, oh, you broke

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Speaker 1: but you got a plan, so I'm gonna help you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and she took one for the team and

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was definitely the diamond and the rough.

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Speaker 2: I'm adding some oil here just to get get this

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Speaker 2: leap of faith on me. H, really leap of faith

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Speaker 2: I had. I had nothing. I had two you know

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's beautiful. I like that. And you guys are

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Speaker 1: still together? Oh how many years later is this now?

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, this is a tough question since.

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Speaker 1: Oh see, this is where he's gonna mess up the interview.

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Speaker 1: We say, how long have you been married to your wife?

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Speaker 2: I how long have I been married?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gonna call your kids of twenty nine?

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine years? Okay there, yeah, don't worry. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: I put in like twenty eight and twenty seven or

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, twenty nine years shoutowtns to twenty

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Speaker 1: nine years of marriage started from the bottom, now we hear. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you leave college. Your wife is submitting resumes so

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Speaker 1: you can get a job. Yeah wow, and now you

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Speaker 1: own your own firm. This is amazing. Okay, So what

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Speaker 1: happened you got a job? Did she did she actually

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Speaker 2: Yes, she did. She actually I had to go off

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Speaker 2: while I was gone that she actually sent out one

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Speaker 2: hundred and one hundred and twenty resumes. And this is

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Speaker 2: back when you actually had to type them all up,

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Speaker 1: Oh you mean she wasn't like making copies. No, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, she wasn't just like editing the names in

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Speaker 1: the first sentence. No, oh my gosh, this is you

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Speaker 1: know what I low Keithaw only like people in the

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Speaker 1: hood kind of did this, Like why can't men do resumes?

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Speaker 1: But now you are proving that it's just a male.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a lot of males don't do resumes. Resumes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the next week is we're gonna throw this in. No,

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Speaker 2: she she sent them all out, and I finally I

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Speaker 2: is my garlic.

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Speaker 1: You canna touch it. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: Okay, just be careful with the pork.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I got gloves for that for you.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you're you're saw tanging the garlic in

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Speaker 1: the in the different vegetables for seasoning, like the onions

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Speaker 1: Okay, So so she sends out the resumes while you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I came back and I had I

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Speaker 2: thirty resumes that she sent out. We got three people responded,

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Speaker 2: and out of those, I got one job offered.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, So it was tough for architects for real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really bad. Okay, So I think I'm

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Speaker 1: a testament to his wife and his family. Two of

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Speaker 1: your children showed up here. Your wife had labeled this,

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Speaker 1: So she like added all these post its so you

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Speaker 1: you get the job. Then what happened? You can just

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Speaker 2: Now okay, okay, here's a napkin, thank you, and uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I get the job, and uh, it still wasn't

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Speaker 2: she always had the better job at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so she was so she had a job

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Speaker 1: while she was doing the resumes or was it was

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Speaker 1: she she got a job right after you got a job.

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Speaker 2: No, actually she had she already had a job.

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Speaker 1: Okay, your wife is looking like a superhero right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'd go home and some flowers for her today. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so you get the job. What's the experience looking like?

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Speaker 1: How did you like working this job?

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Speaker 2: Oh? It was the very first one. It was the

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Speaker 2: best part actually was coming home to my wife. And

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Speaker 2: then uh but it worked, and uh it was still

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Speaker 2: wasn't getting paid that much. I was still we were

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Speaker 2: still this struggling you know, you know, you know in

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Speaker 2: the relationship, you know, when you're starting out, you don't

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Speaker 2: really have anything, and things like for what was it

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Speaker 1: He was one of those wooden ones.

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Speaker 2: You're struggling yeah, just a little too hard. Jesus, you

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Speaker 2: want to you could pull that out and just yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe we need to take.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're only cooking for two, So go on, just.

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Speaker 2: Let me break I'm almost okay, I just sive it,

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Speaker 2: coordinate myself here, ah, there we go. She left that

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Speaker 2: for for romantic gifts. I still remember one year, instead

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Speaker 2: of for for Valentine's Day, we bought each other major appliances.

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you Logan. All right, all right, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: So now you are a man of the house. The

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Speaker 1: superhero wife is at home taking kiddies too, babies. The

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Speaker 1: pressure is on you. What's going on? What's the next play?

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Speaker 2: Well? Actually we yeah, for those next few years when

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Speaker 2: they were growing up, it was she was taking them

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Speaker 2: everywhere and taking care of them, and I was doing

445
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Speaker 2: very long hours, and I was working at places that

446
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Speaker 2: I think didn't really appreciate me, and I was actually

447
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Speaker 2: kind of missing out on home life, life and stuff

448
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Speaker 2: like that. And actually the next big stage actually happened

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. When I got laid off.

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Speaker 2: And now my wife says, Okay, I'll go out and

451
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Speaker 2: get a job. You stay with the kids, but I

452
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Speaker 2: want you and then well she said, I want you

453
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Speaker 2: to kind of chase your dream and be happy again.

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Speaker 2: And that's when I started Neil. Okay, yeah, And it

455
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Speaker 2: was a big, big leap of faith again. But she

456
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Speaker 2: really believed in me.

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Speaker 1: And how old are the kids at the time when

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Speaker 1: you become an entrepreneur stay at home dad. Now he

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Speaker 1: sounds and looks like a chef. Okay, chef, chef, all right,

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Speaker 1: I got this, Yeah he got it. Look how confident

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Speaker 1: he's moving right now, chef.

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Speaker 2: This is going to get done. Okay.

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Speaker 1: And is also he's aspiring or did you just complete

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Speaker 1: college for becoming an architect? I am still in college

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Speaker 1: in my junior year okay, and he's he's going to

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Speaker 1: school for architectural too. So the shout outs to the

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Speaker 1: family growing Yes, okay, so now you're stay at home entrepreneur. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And how old are the kiddies at the time.

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Speaker 2: But my daughter was nine and my son was five?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this is like manageable entrepreneur stay at home

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Speaker 1: that like these kids are like kind of self sufficient

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, okay, so now the pressure is on,

473
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Speaker 1: like yeah, so now you start to believe in yourself.

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Speaker 1: You take the reins and what's the next milestone?

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Speaker 2: Well, right at that point, I took my last exams

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Speaker 2: finally to become you know, a licensed you know, registered

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Speaker 2: are architect, So you know you have to go through

478
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Speaker 2: this last you know, set of qualifications. And then I

479
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Speaker 2: start trying to feed the business, you know, and get

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Speaker 2: new clients and get new projects. And we landed our

481
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Speaker 2: biggest commission. It's over on Ventura. It's a giant medical office,

482
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Speaker 2: and the ball starts rolling and it was really exciting.

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Speaker 1: Now talk about the entrepreneurship. So you're out going so

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Speaker 1: to land this first big deal, this is your first

485
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Speaker 1: big fish. How many phone calls, how many networking? How

486
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Speaker 1: much pleading did you have to do to get this

487
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Speaker 1: first big big And this is the clients coming on

488
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Speaker 1: as their first right yeah, and they know it. So

489
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Speaker 1: you had to do some real big I believe in

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Speaker 1: myself pants, right, Yes.

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Speaker 2: It was really you know, I like to believe in

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Speaker 2: myself pants. Yeah. I had to go in thing thinking

493
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Speaker 2: we were the best solution for this client and we

494
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Speaker 2: were the best option and they had they also had

495
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Speaker 2: to take that leap of faith in us too, But uh,

496
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Speaker 2: it was it was a lot of self belief. We

497
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: really had to go out there and say, you know,

498
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Speaker 2: we can do this, you know we can take care

499
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Speaker 2: of you, we can do this project for you.

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Speaker 1: So how did it feel going from architects? From what

501
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Speaker 1: I would imagine the architect is more of an introvert, right,

502
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Speaker 1: They're not. They're not in there teaching you sales selling skills. Right,

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00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: So now you're picking up the phone, you're cold calling, right?

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Speaker 1: And now have you watched other salespeople do do these

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Speaker 1: pitches before?

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Speaker 2: I know? Actually I didn't. I'm still trying to learn today. Wow.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't really have like a direct person

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Speaker 2: that I saw as as you know, architectural sales or

509
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Speaker 2: anything like that. I just kind of started reaching out

510
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Speaker 2: to the networks and putting feelers out there or wherever

511
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Speaker 2: I could, and a lot of playing it by year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like highlighting that because I think that there's

513
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Speaker 1: an assumption with entrepreneurship that, uh, you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: an architect, that's the only hat you're gonna wear in

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Speaker 1: your business. But it's it's not right because you're an

516
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Speaker 1: entrepreneur and an architect. You own Neo and Associates. You're

517
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: the founder and creator of this company, and it's been

518
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Speaker 1: around for how many years now?

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Speaker 2: I've had it for Uh I'm at eleven years with Neo.

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Speaker 1: Wow, eleven years. Shout outs to you. And now can

521
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Speaker 1: you say with confidence you believe in yourself? Oh yeah, yeah,

522
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Speaker 1: now you're like my works. Look at that portfolio. Go

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Speaker 1: to Neo and Associates website. Beautiful work, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I My dream I always tell Eddie

525
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Speaker 1: is like one day I'm gonna have enough money to

526
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Speaker 1: call him and be like, yo, come build me something beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I want like an all glass house, perfect, super modern,

528
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Speaker 1: super sleek, super sexy. And I know you can do

529
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Speaker 1: it because I've seen some of your work. I've seen

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Speaker 1: some pieces on there that are like I could just

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Speaker 1: can I just buy that picture? Does that work? Do

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Speaker 1: people just go on your site and be like I

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Speaker 1: want that what you design there?

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Speaker 2: People say, Well, people look at the site and they

535
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Speaker 2: like certain things that they've seen, and they they say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: go down that path, Yeah, go that way.

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Speaker 1: Are they ever allowed to see a design and say

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Speaker 1: that exact thing that allowed. I don't know what the

539
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Speaker 1: rules are an architectural design like that.

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Speaker 2: Every time it becomes a unique because every site is unique,

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Speaker 2: every location, so everything has to change a little bit

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Speaker 2: so it can go in that spirit or inspiration and that's,

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Speaker 2: you know, really the route we go.

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Speaker 1: So as an architect, for all of us that don't know,

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Speaker 1: like myself, when I think architect, I think you like

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Speaker 1: I think as a child, you were like sitting there

547
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Speaker 1: with chopstick schooling them together, or you were like the

548
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Speaker 1: best lego builder of all time and everyone was like, dang,

549
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Speaker 1: he could build some really awesome buildings. But I'd imagine

550
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Speaker 1: it's a lot more complicated. Where did the initial bug

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Speaker 1: to become an architect come from?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, you know, growing up, I liked going to

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Speaker 2: the you know, to Disneyland and u Fcot Center and

554
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Speaker 2: Walt Disney World, and I just loved the you know,

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Speaker 2: the architecture of the parks, and I wanted to originally

556
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Speaker 2: to be an imagineer. I wanted to go and design

557
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Speaker 2: rides and stuff like that for Disney.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was a what's that called

559
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Speaker 1: the imagining?

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Speaker 2: An imagineer I.

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Speaker 1: Didn't even know that was a I don't even know why.

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Speaker 1: Did you see there's a carnival building being built in

563
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Speaker 1: the parking lot. That's when you were like, like, hey,

564
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Speaker 1: I could build a cool ride.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I was originally.

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Speaker 1: That's called an imagineer for that's okay, Okay, I didn't

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Speaker 1: even for social reason. I didn't even know that was

568
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Speaker 1: a career. But yeah, they have to come from somewhere, right.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I mean Disney has a whole in

570
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Speaker 2: house team and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you were really inspired by Disney World.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I was just like, oh, I really

573
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Speaker 2: want to do that, and that's why I wanted to

574
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Speaker 2: go to architecture school and I really and then when

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Speaker 2: I got there, uh, I love I found out that,

576
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Speaker 2: you know, I love putting stuff to you know, there's

577
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Speaker 2: the usual love doing legos as a kid, loved building

578
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Speaker 2: all the time and all those things. But I think

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Speaker 2: for me, it was a little more unique with imagine

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Speaker 2: what's going on? Logan? Is it me? Are you laughing

581
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Speaker 2: at me? Go a little too much that you got to

582
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Speaker 2: do that.

583
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Speaker 1: Let Logan be the chef, Let him be the chef. Eddykay, Okay,

584
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Speaker 1: we're gonna stay out of it. We're going to stand Logan's.

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Speaker 1: We're going to stay at a Logan's kitchen. So at

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Speaker 1: what point do you go from imagineer to architect, Like,

587
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Speaker 1: when do you make the decision that you're not going

588
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Speaker 1: to be imagineer.

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Speaker 2: Uh? Actually I worked for a little bit at Disney,

590
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Speaker 2: and it's it's a long road between imagining something and

591
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Speaker 2: getting it built. So I guess at the time I

592
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: was just really impatient. I wanted a lot more control

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Speaker 2: over the final product.

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Speaker 1: So as imagineaire, you literally have to imagine it and

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Speaker 1: then kind of build it, and then it's got to

596
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Speaker 1: not kill people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, got it? Yeah. Oh, and there's always this, you know,

598
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Speaker 2: they work at the story could you.

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Speaker 1: Imagine imagineer that builds right, and the people are like stuck.

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Speaker 2: You're like, no, you didn't figure it all out. You

601
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: forgot about safety. Now I did it for a little bit,

602
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: and uh, I wanted to take the reins more. You

603
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: had said take the reins, And I found that I'm

604
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Speaker 2: happiest when when I'm calling the shots. You know, even

605
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: with a client that has specific needs and stuff, they're

606
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Speaker 2: still coming to me for you know my inspira and

607
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Speaker 2: uh my you know design skill.

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Speaker 1: So but with the Imagineaire, did do you not? Is

609
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Speaker 1: that just the nature of that that industry that you

610
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: don't get to call the shots. Is it like the

611
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Speaker 1: the what is it like the Disney parks or the

612
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Speaker 1: six flags that say this is what we're looking for?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, there's a lot more hierarchy, there's a

614
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: lot more planning involved. Uh, you know, and you have

615
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: to work on staying there a lot longer before you

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00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 2: have a lot more say, there's so many more cooks

617
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: in the kitchen when you're there as opposed to a

618
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: smaller firm where for instance, we have a building that

619
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Speaker 2: looks like the visor from from Cyclops and I flat

620
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Speaker 2: out to the class I want a giant building that

621
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Speaker 2: wraps the corner, looks like a visor, And he was okay,

622
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Speaker 2: And then we went ahead and it's built and I

623
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Speaker 2: didn't have to go through committee.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome. Yeah, okay. So going back to you

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Speaker 1: as an architects slash entrepreneur, you're on this path. You

626
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Speaker 1: have this successful first client. Do this client start snowballing

627
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: in or is it still a struggle?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's still a struggle. It's not something that people

629
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Speaker 2: instantly look for always. You know, it pops up somewhere

630
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: and they go, you know, oh, I think I'll look

631
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Speaker 2: for an architect today. You really have to be in

632
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: the certain circles. And I'm always trying to be in

633
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: the right room, in the right place, and you never

634
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: know where that is. So yeah, it's still grind.

635
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Speaker 1: Now, do architects mainly get most of their business from

636
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: commercial or is it from resident Is it a good

637
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: balance between residential and commercial?

638
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: With NEO, we're a good balance. We love our you know,

639
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: commercial clients because they're repeat clients, and but we also

640
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: love the er that the individual clients bring, I mean yeah,

641
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: and their attachment to their dream home.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I look at the I would say rendering

643
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Speaker 1: slash for me pictures and I love them. So if

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Speaker 1: you're a client and you have a land, is the

645
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Speaker 1: first person to go to the architect traditionally and then

646
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Speaker 1: the builders or like can you paint that picture for

647
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Speaker 1: us that don't know, like when do you contact the

648
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Speaker 1: architect and what the architect actually does?

649
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Speaker 2: Actually it's sometimes even before you get the land. It's

650
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: good to reach out to an architect. Because they'll tell

651
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: you what you can put on it, and you don't

652
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: want to buy a piece of land and then find out, Oh, I,

653
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: you know, I can only put a you know, a

654
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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred square foot mini house on it. You want

655
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: to be able to have an idea beforehand. Oh I

656
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: can put my twenty five hundred, you know, or I

657
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: can put a you know, a shop or a retail store.

658
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: You know.

659
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: And when an architect looks at land, what are you

660
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: looking for to determine that.

661
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: We do our due diligence. We see how what the

662
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 2: code is, what the zoning is, what the maximum height,

663
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: and you know the size of the constraints. This is

664
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: what we're looking for. Yeah.

665
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: Wow, So you're not looking for like plumbing on the

666
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: ground or anything. I'm literally like, I want to know

667
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: because there's people out there that are like, I want

668
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: to buy a piece of land. No, it's good to

669
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: know that you contact the architect first, because you know,

670
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: you would not know.

671
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't know. And then actually you mentioned plumbing.

672
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: When I have clients that have something that's more remote,

673
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: that's one of the first things I asked said, do

674
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: you have utilities? Do you have water, do you have

675
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: drainage for sewage? Do you have power? And then and

676
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: then after that we can start to have a conversation

677
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: of okay, what are we going to put on it?

678
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: So would you say it's easier or best for a

679
00:38:54,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: client to buy land or buy a built like maybe

680
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: like terrible house on some land.

681
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: Both have Well, the good thing about the terrible house

682
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: is you do have the utilities. The utilities are there.

683
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: You know that, there's all the hookups, you know. Unfortunately,

684
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: usually the terrible house is still more money than the land.

685
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: So but the terrible house has a lot going for it.

686
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: So I like that a lot going with the terrible house.

687
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: But also I've had clients with the blank land, and

688
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: the blank land works really well as well. I mean,

689
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: so I it.

690
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: Does it balance itself in costs though, Like if you

691
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: buy land and has no plumbing.

692
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: It does kind of balance out a little bit.

693
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, okay, because the other houses costs more. But

694
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: you still got to kanda.

695
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you got to get all them.

696
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: Now we're in California, and California I think just passed

697
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: some regulations where people could sell their yards. Is that correct? Yeah,

698
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna know right, you would know?

699
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, right, Now it's it all. It kind

700
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 2: of all started with the whole adu laws. I mean,

701
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: you know, allowing people to do ad us, which are

702
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: basically another house on your lot. Right, so this is

703
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: to say you built an extra house on your back lot. Well,

704
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: a new law just came into fact that said, okay,

705
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: now you built a house and your back lot, you

706
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: can section off that land and sell it separately.

707
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh but now can they? But they can't just say

708
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: I have a huge backyard, I just want to sell

709
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: half of it without the house.

710
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: Uh No, you can do it without the house as well.

711
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: You can. Yeah, that's another that's a different law. That's

712
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: a like an SB nine law where you can do

713
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: a lot split.

714
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: A lot split. Now have you have you worked on

715
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: a lot split before?

716
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: We haven't worked on one yet. We've had a couple

717
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: where we started, and then some kind of complication came through.

718
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Some of these laws are kind of new and the

719
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: cities are still figuring it out.

720
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. And then what's the difference between an adu

721
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: and a jdu.

722
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: At adu is a full accessory dwelling. A jdu is

723
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: cut out of your existing house.

724
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you have like an extra room and

725
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: you want to throw a back door on it type.

726
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: Of yeah, exactly, you throw a back door and you

727
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: throw a little kitchenette. You're good.

728
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: And then what's up, chef Logan? Yeah, you're done, beat us. Well,

729
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: you can feed your dad first. This looks good. It

730
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: smells good. Shout outs to Logan, Thank you, Logan. I'm

731
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: pretty sure Jared you can join in. They made enough

732
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: to feed the whole family here, and do you know

733
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: what out of I just want to say something else

734
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: that's really special about this episode. Usually on the show,

735
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: we get the ingredients and we try to guess to

736
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: what's going on. Eddie went above and beyond and brought

737
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: in all the ingredients and really, you know, rolled out

738
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: the red carpet. So that was really special for us too.

739
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: I did no shopping today. It's awesome. Okay, so we

740
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: got rice and then uh, you want that little that

741
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: black one? Yeah you go? Is it supposed to look soupy?

742
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to mess with your head. I'm trying to

743
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: mess with your head. I thought, Logan, feel like you

744
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: messed up Eddie.

745
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: Remember at the very end you're supposed to sprinkle some

746
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: of this on the very top.

747
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: It looks it looks great. We eat hot dogs on

748
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: this show. Okay, peanut butter and jelly. Okay, this is

749
00:42:50,560 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: a gourmet dish at this point. So the a d

750
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: u and the j du. The jdu is attached. Now

751
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: do people typically call architects for j dus?

752
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: Yes, and you still need to have it would help.

753
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: It definitely helps out to have. The thing is, the

754
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: homeowner can do a lot of these things, but the

755
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: city it makes, they make it pretty difficult for client

756
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: to get it through.

757
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: Switch's around there.

758
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: Present, it looks good.

759
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: I love he wished they would have put very little

760
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: tofu on this, but we're gonna see it. So is

761
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: this it's really the texture of tofu. Growing up, my

762
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: mom would have there was two ingredients and my mom

763
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: would cook that we just knew was the kiss of

764
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: death as children, and it was okra and tofu, okra

765
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: and tofu. And so anytime, like you know, parents, they

766
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: eat the you know, you eat the foo foo in

767
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: the freezing and stuff starts coming to the front. Anytime

768
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: the oprah and the tofu landed in the front, it

769
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: was like yo chuck that all the way in the back.

770
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: That's how much we as a collective unit of siblings

771
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: hated those dishes.

772
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh I love O.

773
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: I've even tried it fried. I just can't get past

774
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: the sliminess.

775
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: Well, we chose a more stiff, you know type.

776
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: Of it looks good. We're only tasting it, Logan.

777
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much.

778
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: Shout out to Logan for coming through.

779
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: Yay.

780
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: Do you want to make yourself well, oh, we don't

781
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: have place, but afterwards, Logan, we'll you know, thank you. Okay,

782
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: let's try this beautiful dish. Shout out to your son,

783
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: chef Logan. I saw you trying to question him and

784
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: put him under pressure.

785
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: Oh he was just talking about how the sauce got saucy.

786
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: You know, so is Logan. Do you know if Logan's

787
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: gonna join the firm, you don't have to recruit him.

788
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: I have to recruit him. I have to convince.

789
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I have a little bit of tofo

790
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: on here, guys, some pork. Here we go. Yeah, I'm

791
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: messing with the tofo Wait, let me let me give

792
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: it a try.

793
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: It's the texture.

794
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, though, this dish is really good.

795
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: Really good dish. I would have it. I'm just trying

796
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: to see if I would have it again with the tofo.

797
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 2: Covers it up a lot.

798
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I think I would do it

799
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: with the tofo. Yeah, Logan did a Really, I'm not

800
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: giving you no, I can't do it. Logan came in

801
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: Save the Day. I saw him come in here. He

802
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: was like, Dad, you god this, you gotta do this first.

803
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, this is so good, I gotta take

804
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: another bike.

805
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: It is.

806
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: It is good. And look at that on the end. Ah,

807
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna front like Tofu's still little. The texture

808
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: is weird, but it works with this dish because you

809
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: have the balance of the pork and this dish is

810
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: really good.

811
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: Oh great, I.

812
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: Will give this dish a ten.

813
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: Good job.

814
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: So being broke eating this ain't that bad. This is

815
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: like restaurant style.

816
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very fortunate that my wife happened to be

817
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: a chef.

818
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: So she wasn't really a chef.

819
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: No, she wasn't really, she's just home taught.

820
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is honestly really delicious.

821
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah and all. But uh yeah, but if you look

822
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: the ingredients aren't really expensive, then you know the pork is,

823
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: you know, three ninety nine.

824
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: I think, if anything, it looked like you guys did

825
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: a lot of flavoring, and the flavoring is amazing. This

826
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: dish is really good. I can't wait to take this

827
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: dish home. How much like you can eat it. I'm

828
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: gonna take some of this. We don't eat this for dinner,

829
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: you know. Sometimes me and my daughter we eat while broke.

830
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: There's a couple of dishes on this show that I

831
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: go home and pretend like I came up with them

832
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: because they're so good. This dish I would do the same,

833
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: But the problem is, you guys have so many ingredients

834
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: that I can't fake it. I just got to take

835
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: it home. Great good, great job, Logan and Eddie. I'll

836
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: will finish this. So, as an architect, your job is

837
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: more than just designing the building. It sounds like you're

838
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: pulling the permits. Can you tell me a little bit

839
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: more of what an architect actually does? Uh?

840
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, starting from the beginning, we really listened to

841
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: the client what they're looking for. That's the you know,

842
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: that's the first thing we do is listen, uh, and

843
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: we realize what what the end goal is. We are firm.

844
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: We work back and forth with the client and honing

845
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: that vision to the final you know what do I

846
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: say presentation or you know what everybody agrees upon that

847
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: we're going to do, and then we take that to

848
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: the building department and every city has one. You got

849
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: to show up and show them what you're going to do.

850
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: And a lot of times there's planning, you know, which

851
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 2: is approving what you do, like how big and what color?

852
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: And then there's building and safety. It's like, you know,

853
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: how are you going to bild? Is it going to

854
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: be a safe building to be in?

855
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 1: But we take contractors to do that part. As an architect,

856
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: you can handle.

857
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: All that money. No, we handle all of that. We

858
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: get it. We get the building all the way to

859
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: that magical moment ready to issue. Uh So we we

860
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: go back and forth, we get approvals from all these

861
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 2: different apartments and then finally it's ready to issue, at

862
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: which point the contractor can pull the permit and you know,

863
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: they can start construction.

864
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, so when you gave us this table, it

865
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: was cool because we literally just took what you gave instead.

866
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it was.

867
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome. I'm like, oh, okay, that's different. Yeah,

868
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: you just I mean, I hate to use the table

869
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: as an example, but remember we don't we don't know,

870
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: we don't know. Okay.

871
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: Now, even with the table, what we did is we

872
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 2: built the whole thing in three D. We showed you

873
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: and you actually came back with some comments. I can

874
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: recall it. It needs to be more eating well broke,

875
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: it needs to be more of the logo. Can you

876
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: bring in, you know, some more items. And then when

877
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 2: we were doing it, division came to do all the

878
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: you know, all the all the forks.

879
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah sorts, which by the way, we're like hand put on,

880
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: and we had to like all the little bottoms of

881
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: the forks. And I have pictures of people in my

882
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: garage adding each fork because I had got the table

883
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, you're missing the forks.

884
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't have the forks. It's not a it's

885
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: not an eating table without the forks.

886
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: So it did an incredible job. Yeah, and you're right.

887
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: I did go a little back and forth for someone

888
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: that wasn't paying. Were you guys like oh my.

889
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: Gosh, no, you know when you when you came to

890
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: me with this whole idea for this show, Colleine. I.

891
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: I was just like, this is a great opportunity for

892
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: Neil to be a part of this.

893
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: Oh you're serious, yes, Oh, I just remember you being

894
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: really nice, like, okay, No, it was.

895
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: A great opportunity and you had this clear vision of

896
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: where you wanted it to go, and it was easy

897
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: to believe in you. So thank you. Uh, and it

898
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: was something exciting for us. It's like, oh, we get

899
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 2: something that people will see and enjoy.

900
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: And the best part of this story is I mean,

901
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: it sounds great that you believed in me, but at

902
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: the time it was just an idea. This is before

903
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: I got my deal with the Black Effect and got

904
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: distribution like national distribution. So if you would have built

905
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: the table and it would have been stuck in my garage,

906
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: would you been mad or disappointed? I'm genuinely curious. Would

907
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: you have been like, ah, never again? Will I believe

908
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: in her? Like, what would it have felt like if

909
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: it didn't work out and you put a network?

910
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 2: I was never an option?

911
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: Oh okay, good, because why I saw that?

912
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: To be honest, you're trying to leave me down the

913
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: path of something I never thought. It was never something

914
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 2: that occurred to me. I always knew it would go somewhere.

915
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much. So going back to

916
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: being I love real estate, I love it. I don't

917
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: know why I'm not a real estate agent because I'm

918
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: one of those creepers that love to like, oh there's

919
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: an open house. I know, my ass is broken. Can't

920
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: afford one point two million dollar houses in West Hills.

921
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: But let's walk and imagine what life would be like here.

922
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: Do or like in my neighborhood, we have all these

923
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: lots that are like two acre lots in North Hills.

924
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: They have really massive lots and it's actually zoned agriculture,

925
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: so you'll see like pigs and goats in people's backyards,

926
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: horses and a lot of of the you know, I

927
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: guess there was a new ADU initiative. So a lot

928
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: of the people that own these huge lots built beautiful

929
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: homes on the back right. But one of these neighbors,

930
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: they ain't do nothing. And I'm about to door knock

931
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: and be like, sell me that backyard. But some you know,

932
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: some people have theories that if you buy, like say

933
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: someone's yard or what have you, it needs to have

934
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: another entrance in Like do you know the rules in

935
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: regards to that.

936
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the uh, when you subdivide a lot like that,

937
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: with however you decide to go through, you do have

938
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: to have some front access. There has to be some

939
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: kind of easement in order to get the you know,

940
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: your car in and out, and so that is part

941
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 2: of it. So essentially you end up looking it looks

942
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: like a little flag. Yeah, you always have the flagpole

943
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: that goes out to the street.

944
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: That always happens, so like on our on the properties

945
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: that we have. And I was telling my girlfriend because

946
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: I've been trying to convince my friends, and you got

947
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: a yard, you want to sell it to me? They'd

948
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: be like, girl, we thought about it. I'm like, what's

949
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: holding you back? You know the white people they use credit.

950
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: Black people be like, we got to save up all

951
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: this money. I'm like, white people don't save up all that.

952
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: They use a balance of credit.

953
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's always credit.

954
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's other people's money. I was telling that, and

955
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: then she was like, well, I don't know about my credit.

956
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: I said, girl, don't worry. I got like a nine hundred.

957
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: I'll bless you with some of my credit. Say, you know,

958
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: I love financial literacy because I've learned all the tricks,

959
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: and I like talk to my homies exactly like this. Oh,

960
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, what's holding back your credit? I

961
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: burned through, maxed out my credit cards. Don't worry. I

962
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: could boost you one hundred fifty. I'll put you on

963
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: one of these twenty thirty thousand dollars credit cards and

964
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: shoot it right up. I believe in blessing people with credit. Oh,

965
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: I think that you should do that. I think that's

966
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: one of the responsibilities you have to look out for.

967
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I bless a lot of people. Let's

968
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: just say in my home, I have like seven or

969
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: eight different people's credit cards. I never give them the

970
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: credit card.

971
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just I.

972
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: Signed them on to my I add them just so

973
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: you guys know. A real cool cheat hack to building

974
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: your credit. I'm not talking about. If you are a

975
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: person that does not pay your credit card bills or

976
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: your bills, you know, there's nothing I can do to

977
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: help you there. But if say, you know you've maxed

978
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: out your credit cards, that does affect your debt to

979
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: income ratio, that does affect your score. So in those cases,

980
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: you can go to someone that does have high credit

981
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: and say, look, do you have a high limit card

982
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: that you don't abuse, which most people that have good

983
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: credit don't abuse their cards, and you just ask if

984
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: they'll add you. They can hold onto the card and

985
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: your credit score will go up and there is no

986
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: risk on the cardholder because you're not gonna destroy my credit.

987
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 1: So yes, if you go at home into my house,

988
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: there's like nine of my homies, and I offer it

989
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: to anybody, But of course you gotta go through a

990
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: whole lecture on financial literacy and why the heck you

991
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: was buying, you know, coffee at Starbucks or whatever, a

992
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: nice fit on that credit card that you couldn't afford.

993
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: I will let you you to you don't want my

994
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: help anymore, but we go to get to the problem,

995
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: the bottom of it. But yes, I have been thinking

996
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: about purchasing properties, and I always wonder, like, what's the

997
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: first step. I know when I was on the phone

998
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: with my account and I don't know if you guys

999
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: ever ended up working together, but he was looking for

1000
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: properties and he wanted to hire you to come and

1001
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: look at the properties.

1002
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, now I briefly remember, yeah, yeah, he came

1003
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 2: to me. He wasn't really going forward, and we started

1004
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 2: looking at the property and started seeing there was possibilities

1005
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 2: to add more units or to you know, adu JD

1006
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 2: you know, just add a lot of income to the property.

1007
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: So but I guess he hadn't moved forward on it.

1008
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: So okay, But but that is the proper protocol. When

1009
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: you go the first person is the architect, not the contractor.

1010
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: Now, the contractor they know what they can build. They say,

1011
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: oh yeah, And you know if you come to him

1012
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: and say, how am I going to improve this? Well,

1013
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: I need you know, the next thing they're going to

1014
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 2: see is I need to see a set of plans.

1015
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay.

1016
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 2: And then even when with us, if we get it

1017
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: to a certain level, the next thing they say, oh,

1018
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: we need to see the structural plans. You know, they

1019
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: want to be at a certain point where they can

1020
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: start to bid and put something together.

1021
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: Okay, But as an architect, you handle all the permits,

1022
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 1: so they're literally it's almost like grown up ikea because

1023
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: the plans you hand them is just bulletproof. Correct. Has

1024
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: a contractor ever called you and said, y'all and you

1025
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: better answer this question like you a pr rep for

1026
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: NEO and association, y y your daughter back. They're like,

1027
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: oh god, let's see. But now, has any contractor ever

1028
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: called you and said, this plan just quite for whatever

1029
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: reason isn't working. Has that ever happened?

1030
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: Uh, Well, there's always conditions in the field that happen.

1031
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: And when we do get that call, we do respond

1032
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: to it and we'll make a modification and make sure,

1033
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: you know, we'll give them a new drawing of what

1034
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: will work. And that's part of actually having the architect

1035
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: on board, because a lot of these people that I

1036
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: run into, they think that not hiring an architect to

1037
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: do something. They get so far in the drawing process,

1038
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: somehow they get the permit and then they get out

1039
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: in the field and then they start building something illegally.

1040
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: The next thing you know, they're red tagged.

1041
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: And what happens when you red tag.

1042
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: Was that they they start experience. They start getting heavy

1043
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: fines and the building department, you know, will insist that

1044
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: whatever part it does not meet it, it has to

1045
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: be demolished or removed. So I've had clients go all

1046
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: the way down that road and it's it's very difficult.

1047
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: Okay, And now do you at Neil and Associates do

1048
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: you guys study what the new rulings are that come out,

1049
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: And do you guys also partner with like maybe lenders,

1050
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: because I've seen realtors do that. They'll like be buddies

1051
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: with lenders and they'll know like different loans and stuff.

1052
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: Do you guys do that or do you guys just

1053
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: primarily just focus on the permitting and net or do

1054
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: you guys stay up to date on what the rules are?

1055
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: Well, we do stay up to date on what the

1056
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,959
Speaker 2: rules are as far as codes and as far as

1057
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: like every few years, we have a new building code

1058
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: that we have to abide by, So we abide, you know,

1059
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: we follow that, we use that. And then as the

1060
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: next part where you say about the lenders, I mean

1061
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: that's a new avenue for us. We've never really teamed

1062
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: up with lenders before. It's usually it seems like a

1063
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: lot of the time what happens is a client needs

1064
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: drawings first, and then they go to the lender.

1065
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: Oh, oh they don't. Oh I didn't know that. I

1066
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: thought you buy the land, like say I buy someone's yard,

1067
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: want someone going to do it? Someone's gonna do it,

1068
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: So I buy the land, I pick you up. I'm like, yo,

1069
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: DDI I did it. First of all. My second question

1070
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: is going to be like, I like this picture on

1071
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: your website, how much do you tell me, like, how

1072
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: much with the contractor's fees the building's probably gonna cost me?

1073
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: Or do you say, well, this is how much the

1074
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: renderings are gonna cost you.

1075
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you how much of the design is

1076
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: to put together drawings to submit and get through the process.

1077
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. I can give you a range

1078
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: of construction prices, but they really the last few years

1079
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: have been really tumultuous on everybody.

1080
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because construct before COVID, you could get your floors

1081
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: done for a couple dollars a square foot. After COVID,

1082
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: I think before COVID or during COVID, my floors were

1083
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: like in the beginning of COVID, I think they were

1084
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: like five grand to get them redone.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Now they like ten twelve grand. I'm like, oh, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna have to deal with these ugly

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Speaker 1: as floors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everything went up significantly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah in construction right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean as far as there's some pliers finding the

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Speaker 2: workforce to do it. I mean they've they've been hitting

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Speaker 2: on all sides. So when they come back with their

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Speaker 2: pricing on projects, I'm just shaking my head. You know

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Speaker 2: a lot of times it's like, wow, that got really expensive.

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Speaker 1: So when when you see real estate, I love I

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Speaker 1: love talking about real estate. So this is this is great.

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Speaker 1: I get to ask all the questions when you see

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Speaker 1: real estate for sale and you see like it'll be

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Speaker 1: like a piece of land. I mean, this land looks terrible.

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Speaker 1: You know in California, it'd be like here's the side

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Speaker 1: of a mountain. And then they'll have like in the

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Speaker 1: in the picture, they'll have renderings and they'll be like

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Speaker 1: this is this. I don't know if they're saying this

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Speaker 1: comes with the mountain or what have you. But sometimes

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Speaker 1: they'll have the land and they'll have like a rendering

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Speaker 1: of like what it could be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen those.

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Speaker 1: Uh tell us the scoop is for gazes? What is it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not h if you see that out there,

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Speaker 2: make sure. Sometimes the rendering comes with drawings. Any place

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Speaker 2: can produce a pretty picture, so to speak, but to

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Speaker 2: actually have drawings that have a permit ready to issue

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Speaker 2: that has value. That means that someone has gone into

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Speaker 2: the building department. They figured it all out. They have

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Speaker 2: all the structure, they have this sixty seventy pages worth

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Speaker 2: of drawings and it's all been approved by the city.

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Speaker 2: It's all good. So if you buy that land, you

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Speaker 2: go get a contractor you can be building within you know.

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Speaker 1: But do you think it's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: red flag because if you got that, if I saw

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Speaker 1: someone that got that far, I'm like, well, why didn't

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Speaker 1: you build it yourself?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That is? You know, they got to that point

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Speaker 2: where a lot of places like to take it up

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Speaker 2: to entitlements where it's ready to go, and then they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to commit to the whole finding several

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Speaker 2: million dollars or whatever to build it. They don't want

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Speaker 2: to do that. They just want to sell and get out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Oh so that there is a lane for that, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right? Is there anything that I could have asked

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Speaker 1: you that a lot of people don't know about the

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Speaker 1: architectural business or the nature of the beast of real

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Speaker 1: estate on the residential front.

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Speaker 2: On the residential front, I mean, I think you hit

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Speaker 2: a lot of it about what we do. But I

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Speaker 2: like to think of our firm, and I say our

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Speaker 2: because there's more than me.

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Speaker 1: Now Neo and Associates ink ink. But by the way,

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Speaker 1: when we first were doing a test run, I was

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Speaker 1: like Eddie, oh, sus with Neo and he didn't correct

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Speaker 1: me at all. It's Neo and Associates, inc. All right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But we pride ourselves and being the stewards and

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Speaker 2: taking people through the process and making sure that they

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Speaker 2: get to that I like to say champagne moment of

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Speaker 2: the ready to issue. They're ready to start construction. And

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Speaker 2: we really pride ourselves on that. And that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: People don't know that. They just think architects that we

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Speaker 2: all have rimmed glasses and turtlenecks.

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Speaker 1: And the and the magnifying glasses something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're over a drawing board, but actually we're much

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Speaker 2: more involved in that, and we're reaching out to the city,

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Speaker 2: we're reaching out to the community, and we're way more

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Speaker 2: integrated than Hollywood like to you know, portray us.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And then does it work like how a lawyer works,

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Speaker 1: where you guys just say here's a retainer fee, or

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Speaker 1: is it like this, someone comes to you and say,

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Speaker 1: here's the land. Come look, take picture and this is

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Speaker 1: the picture on your website that I want to go in.

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Speaker 1: And then you you tell them like, oh, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: cost I have no idea. I'm guessing architects charge. My

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Speaker 1: assumption is architects charge a lot of money. And that

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Speaker 1: could be kind of ignorant too, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It the architect, Okay, the architect. Does we do cost money?

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Speaker 2: You know, you're talking a band of professionals that went

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Speaker 2: to school and I've really embraced it. So it does

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Speaker 2: cost money, but even more way more money is not

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Speaker 2: hiring an architect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say, it's probably more savings

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Speaker 1: in hiring an architect than not hiring.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred worth it. It's probably it's you're going to see

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Speaker 1: the savings at the back end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and even sometimes during and through because now you

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Speaker 2: have a consultant. You have somebody on board that's been

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Speaker 2: through the process and can advise you what to expect next.

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Speaker 2: So there is a big value there. And when you

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Speaker 2: said before, like you know, it really depends on different projects.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you come to me and say Eddie,

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Speaker 2: I need to need to you here, I can usually

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Speaker 2: get within a ballpark number with you pretty quick, you know,

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Speaker 2: whereas I have a piece of blank land, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: well this evaluated, let's do a feasibility. That's see what

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Speaker 2: really can be done, and let's do that first, and

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Speaker 2: you know, and that'll it would be like on a

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Speaker 2: retainer or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Now, has anyone ever asked you to random question? Has

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Speaker 1: anyone ever asked you to design like a backyard? Do

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Speaker 1: architects do that? Like you ever see those backyards where

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Speaker 1: it's like like almost like like hotel standard do you guys?

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Speaker 1: Have you guys ever gotten that? Or is that the

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Speaker 1: right thing architects do too?

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's great to hire an architect to

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Speaker 2: do that. Actually, if you go to the website and

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Speaker 2: under the home park the residential and go to one

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Speaker 2: called California ADU and on there, you'll see it's a backyard.

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Speaker 2: We did the pool, we did the giant surrounding deck,

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Speaker 2: and then it all attaches to the adu, so it's

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Speaker 2: this grand vision. So yeah, it it does help to

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Speaker 2: have an architect to put all that together.

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Speaker 1: Oh with the backyard, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And just do the whole thing. Wow. Actually, that particular client,

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Speaker 2: he was talking to someone during COVID and he was

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Speaker 2: on FaceTime and his brother said, dude, you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: be on lockdown. You can't go anywhere. And he's like,

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Speaker 2: what resort are you at? And he's like, I'm in

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Speaker 2: my backyard. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it. I've seen your work. I believe

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Speaker 1: anything that you guys design is absolutely fabulous.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Even the commercial buildings. You you know, you would be surprised,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you think about dental offices or what

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Speaker 1: you know, these commercial buildings, but even a commercial building.

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Speaker 1: Your commercial buildings look great. Oh, thank you on the

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Speaker 1: outside and the inside, yes, outside and inside. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for feeding me on another episode

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Speaker 1: of Eating Wild. Bro Guys, if you have any questions

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Speaker 1: on real estate architectural please feel free to reach out

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Speaker 1: to Neil and associates. Eddie is very sweet and kind,

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Speaker 1: and I can honestly imagine that if the leader of

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Speaker 1: the team is like this, then I'm pretty sure there

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Speaker 1: is no question or no you know, discrimination on whether

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01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: you're new or don't have money or do have money.

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Speaker 1: Where it's not an open place where they're they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to find that answer for you and solution

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Speaker 1: for you. Oh yeah, you could tell they built a

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Speaker 1: table for us. Okay, They're definitely open minded, so definitely

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Speaker 1: reach out to Neo and Associates, Inc.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, should I just say the ww Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: you can.

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Speaker 1: Tell us where to follow you and keep up with

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Speaker 1: you on Instagram and all your socials. Oh, thank you,

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Speaker 1: ell and say it into that cam camera.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you can find You can find me and

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Speaker 2: my team at www. Neo Dash Inc. It's n e

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Speaker 2: O Dash I n C dot com. And you can

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Speaker 2: also find us on Instagram at Neo Inc. Ne EO

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Speaker 2: I n C. And I'm on LinkedIn under Edward Oh

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Speaker 2: such and all those should be linking together.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and this dish is amazing. We will contact the

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Speaker 1: super mom to get the actual recipe and maybe we

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Speaker 1: could post it at the end of the video.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, peace out. Thanks for more eating while

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