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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Is yet to get in one practice shows.

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Speaker 1: I would say, no, he's not gonna play. You don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't go from a red jersey all through training camp,

429
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Speaker 1: even up until the second day, the right before camp,

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Speaker 1: and then jump in and play. You just don't do that.

431
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Speaker 1: Nobody does, even like Lashawn McCoy wouldn't do that. So

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Speaker 1: you can bet Zay Jones probably will not get it

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Speaker 1: at all, play at all this game. And you know

434
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Speaker 1: other person at that in that Buffalo wing where it

435
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Speaker 1: just at Wyatt Tellers is sprung up every people want

436
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Speaker 1: to see Wyatt Teller because of the questions at offensive line.

437
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Speaker 1: They want the draft picks to come in and produce

438
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Speaker 1: right away Wyatt Teller rather than rather than some of

439
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Speaker 1: the guys like Ducas or John Miller. They want to

440
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Speaker 1: know who's gonna be in there. Maybe one of these

441
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Speaker 1: young guys can come in and solidify an offensive line

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Speaker 1: that quite frankly, everybody around the country's questioning for a

443
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Speaker 1: lot of reasons that some of them makes sense, some

444
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Speaker 1: of them don't. But you know, I think a lot

445
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Speaker 1: of fans want to see the draft picks like Harrison Phillips,

446
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Speaker 1: like Wyatt Teller, like tarn all these guys that they

447
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Speaker 1: want to see him come in and play. And that's,

448
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Speaker 1: you know, that's what these preseason games are all about.

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Speaker 1: Based on two weeks worth of training camp, I'd be

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Speaker 1: hard pressed to tell you that Wyatt Teller is going

451
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Speaker 1: to be a factor in the offensive line as starter.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't appear to be. At least two weeks in.

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Speaker 1: Does he make the roster. He may, but I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen anything based on you know, and I'm not an

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Speaker 1: offensive line expert, but based on the way he's used,

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Speaker 1: based on the reps he's getting, I don't see that

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Speaker 1: Yat Teller has been overly impressives for the first couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks a camp. Yeah, I mean well for us,

459
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Speaker 1: for guys like for you know, jamos like me, I

460
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Speaker 1: don't know what a guard looked a good guard. I mean,

461
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Speaker 1: you know, he tell me what he looks like and

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Speaker 1: I'll do it. But if when he's out there, when

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Speaker 1: he's playing well and when he goes one on ones, yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: then I can pick it out. That's the same thing

465
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Speaker 1: Dougie Briggs times as I want to watch Redmond. I've

466
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Speaker 1: read a lot about him and know that the lineman

467
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Speaker 1: race is open. Then they'll have a lot of time

468
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Speaker 1: to play this preseason. Next, I want to see stars

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Speaker 1: Star Lotulele play. I'm still trying to fully see why

470
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Speaker 1: we went after him, and that's a great that's a

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Speaker 1: great one. You want to see why they want to

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Speaker 1: Why did they go out and get Jeremy Curley, Why

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Speaker 1: did they go out and get Gains at Corner? Why

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Speaker 1: did they go out and get these guys or Vante Davis. Now,

475
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Speaker 1: I want to see if the team's going to spend

476
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Speaker 1: money and investing these guys without ever having him on

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Speaker 1: their field. First, you want to see those free agents.

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Speaker 1: You want to see him flash And that's a that's

479
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Speaker 1: a really good tweet because it's a good point of

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Speaker 1: view because the team's already invested in those guys. You

481
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Speaker 1: want to see him be worth it. You know one

482
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Speaker 1: thing about Star Lutulae and he's had a good camp

483
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks in. It would be difficult I

484
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Speaker 1: think for any of us to the way he plays

485
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Speaker 1: and what he's has to do. I don't think Star

486
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Speaker 1: Lotulelee is gonna come up with you know, game highlights,

487
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's not supposed to make tackles, right.

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to look hard and maybe

489
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Speaker 1: look at some others around him to determine what his

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Speaker 1: value is. And I do believe he is a ton

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Speaker 1: of value on Here's here's how you do. I mean

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle or a nose guard in a three

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Speaker 1: to four the thing that you watch if you're gonna

494
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Speaker 1: watch Star Lotuleleae, unless you're seeing him in a pass

495
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Speaker 1: rush situation, you're gonna see two guys on him all

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Speaker 1: the time. And here's what you watch. If when that

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Speaker 1: ball is snapped and he comes off and the two

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Speaker 1: guys come off and he engages a guard in a

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Speaker 1: center or a guard and a tackle, does he move

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Speaker 1: backwards from the line of scrimmage or does he hold

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Speaker 1: his ground in the line of scrimmage or does he

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Speaker 1: penetrate the line of scrimmage? That's it. He's not supposed

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Speaker 1: to make tackles. He's not supposed to get sacks. He

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Speaker 1: is supposed to soak up offensive linemen so that guys

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Speaker 1: like Tremaine Edmonds and Lorenzo Alexander and Trent Murphy and

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Speaker 1: the guy and guys around him can make plays when

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Speaker 1: he when it takes those interior offensive linemen and he

508
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Speaker 1: takes and he soaks up all their attention and all

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Speaker 1: their effort on every play. He's doing his job. That's

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Speaker 1: that's what he is supposed to do. You're not going

511
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Speaker 1: to see him get double digit sacks. You're not going

512
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Speaker 1: to see him even get double digit tackles. He may

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Speaker 1: go through a game and play as good as he

514
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Speaker 1: can play and never get a tackle, But that's his job.

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Speaker 1: He is supposed to be a presence. Now. If he

516
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Speaker 1: can penetrate and get up the field and make and

517
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Speaker 1: reac havoc it in the background and the backfield, that's hugely,

518
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Speaker 1: hugely beneficial. And that's what Kyle Williams did so well

519
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Speaker 1: for so many years. He gets through there. But you know,

520
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Speaker 1: when push comes to shove, you can That's how you

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Speaker 1: evaluate a guy like Star Lutu Lele. Don't look at

522
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Speaker 1: the stat sheet, watch the offensive line and where the

523
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage moves after the snap. One more from

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet from a huggy bear, Who are you

525
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Speaker 1: gonna watch? Which two you go to watch? He said,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Riley on offense and Shack Lawson on defense, feeling

527
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Speaker 1: both are gonna have to show up in these games

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Speaker 1: to secure a spot on the roster. Yeah. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think Lawson, especially with Trent Murphy's injury. Murphy's missed about

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Speaker 1: a week now with a grain injury, and every day

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Speaker 1: he misses, I think his means that Shack lawson stock

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Speaker 1: goes up a little bit um you know. Again, they

533
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Speaker 1: spent a week without practice now for Trent Murphy, which

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Speaker 1: means that they might have to lean on Shack Lawson

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Speaker 1: at least for a couple of weeks here in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: So is his roster spot in jeopardy? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that's true. Brandon Riley on offense,

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Speaker 1: another guy who's had a good camp, good receiver, doesn't

539
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Speaker 1: do everything they need a receiver to do, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Steve, he doesn't m Well, if he's

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Speaker 1: gonna hat some skills. But I don't know that he

542
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Speaker 1: is he a number two, for instance, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I think he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: one of He's got to cover kicks. I mean, he's

545
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Speaker 1: got to cover kicks. He's gotta cover pump. He's got

546
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Speaker 1: to make tackles, you know. I mean, that's it. He's

547
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Speaker 1: got to play special teams. Because if you're gonna be

548
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Speaker 1: the third or the fourth or fifth wide receiver on

549
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Speaker 1: the roster, that's all you're gonna do. Ninety percent of

550
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Speaker 1: your plays on one game day, you're gonna be that.

551
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Speaker 1: So if you don't do that in the preseason, they're

552
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Speaker 1: not even gonna know if you can. And if you

553
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Speaker 1: can't play receiver better than the one, two or three guys,

554
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna play wide receiver. So if they've got

555
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Speaker 1: a guy who maybe is not a good receiver as you,

556
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Speaker 1: but who can cover kicks really well, he's gonna stay

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Speaker 1: on the field. I mean, I'm telling you that as

558
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Speaker 1: a PhD. In that I mean, I mean I made

559
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Speaker 1: a career out of it, and it took me a

560
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: long time to learn how to be a good wide receiver.

561
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: I was a much better special teams player and that's

562
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Speaker 1: where I stayed, and that's where I did. That's what

563
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Speaker 1: a guy like Brandon Riley's got to know that. He's

564
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Speaker 1: got to know that. So we'll see, we'll see, we'll

565
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Speaker 1: see see which teams he played. Yeah, you know what

566
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Speaker 1: you gotta that's what you gotta watch Forget about watching

567
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Speaker 1: him on offense. See if he can cover kicks, we'll

568
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Speaker 1: be on him. He'll be on him. And if he

569
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Speaker 1: can do well in those, that's gonna do more for

570
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Speaker 1: his roster spot than a couple of catches. A couple

571
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Speaker 1: of catches. Yeah, good point. All right, we're just getting

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Speaker 1: started here. Good show coming up. Coming up at two

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Speaker 1: o'clock today, Brian Urlacher, newly minted Pro Football Hall of

574
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Speaker 1: Fame linebacker from the Chicago Bears, got a look at

575
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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers with one of their radio talent, Jim Zoki,

576
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Speaker 1: coming up at one o'clock and one of our radio talents,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kelso, standing body to join us next to talk

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Speaker 1: about tomorrow night's game. You are welcome to join us

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Speaker 1: as well. Questions for myself, for Steve, for Mark Kelso

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Speaker 1: when he joins us. Full Line's open. Eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Just getting rolling here until

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Speaker 1: three o'clock with One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

584
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Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bill's radio show. It's called One

585
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Speaker 1: Bills Live and it'll come to do from One Bill's Drive.

586
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker. We are here every day, but

587
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Speaker 1: when the season starts, when the preseason starts, even we

588
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: get a regular weekly visit, usually from our friend Mark Kelsel,

589
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: a longtime Buffalo Bill safety color analyst on the Buffalo

590
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: Bills radio network. I'll be working with him tomorrow night

591
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: on the Bills in Carolina. Worked with them, merk, I'll

592
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: work with them. How many years is sixteenth year on

593
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: the broadcast now, I don't think it's that long, but

594
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Speaker 1: it's it's been a while, and it's been a blessing

595
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: every day with you. Oh thanks Mark, Let's go. Wow,

596
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: it's fun, even preseasons fun. You guys have a different

597
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: relationship than you would well, Hey, hey, let's let's let's

598
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: let's handle some technical issues first, Jay, would you turn

599
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: that microphone down just a little bit or my my earpieces.

600
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Speaker 1: I'm getting drowned. In loudness here. But no, it's I mean,

601
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: the preseason is exciting, and there's no question there there's

602
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: a lot of There are a lot of people on

603
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Speaker 1: these this roster, on both rosters, and and a lot

604
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: of guys and and uh, you have the Bills roster

605
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: committed to memory, but you certainly don't have the Carolina

606
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: roster committed to memory. And and but but there's a

607
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: lot of things. There's a lot of work that both

608
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: of these teams need to do and need to get

609
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: done in the next three or four weeks as they

610
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: prepare for the upcoming season. So it's interesting to see

611
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: those things and interesting to see all these young players

612
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Speaker 1: and the efforts that they expend to try to make

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Speaker 1: this club. You know, we talked to we're in the

614
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: production meeting this morning with the coach and you know

615
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Speaker 1: he intimate and I don't want to talk out of

616
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Speaker 1: turn or anything, but you know, they don't want this

617
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Speaker 1: quarterback thing to go on and on. In a perfect world,

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Speaker 1: if you're what's when do you say, Okay, we gotta

619
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Speaker 1: know our starting guy by this time at that time

620
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Speaker 1: or is there is there a time? Because it seems

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Speaker 1: to be a race horse right now. Well, and you

622
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Speaker 1: always you see the starters play an extended period of

623
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Speaker 1: time in preseason game three. Yeah, certainly, and they've got

624
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Speaker 1: some extended time before that game because that's the that's

625
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Speaker 1: the game at sun. What is it twenty fourth or

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Speaker 1: something Sunday after twenty fifth or right, maybe it's six

627
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Speaker 1: actually I think it's the twenty six twenty a Saturday night. Yeah,

628
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Speaker 1: so they've got some extended time there. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think that by extended time you meet a long time

630
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Speaker 1: between games like that more, right, And they they'll have

631
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Speaker 1: extended practice session there before they actually get to that

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Speaker 1: game three. And and uh so, I mean I I

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Speaker 1: don't think the issue is between when they're going to

634
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Speaker 1: name the starter. I think the issue is when are

635
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Speaker 1: these guys going to differentiate themselves and when is somebody

636
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Speaker 1: going to rise to the top and become a clear

637
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Speaker 1: decision that this is the person that's going to lead

638
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: this this coach table offense this year and to begin

639
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: the season. And obviously Josh Allen is the heir apparent

640
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: and has a big arm and has done some really

641
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: good things in training camp. But it seems like the

642
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: race is pretty even right now, and certainly, Certainly a J.

643
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: McCarron and Nathan Peterman with the experience that they've had,

644
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: the experience that he had last year, and Nathan and

645
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: AJ's experience in the league being in the league for

646
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: five years is advantageous and certainly would be would put

647
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: them a little bit ahead at this point in the game,

648
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: you would think, but I haven't seen I saw a

649
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: practice Friday night, hadn't seen any other practices with the

650
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: NASCAR responsibilities and all those those things that I was

651
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: dealing with, so I haven't seen them throw very much.

652
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: I saw some good throws by all three of them,

653
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: So they'll be interesting to see what happens here. In

654
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: the preseason game number one, he bring up a good point,

655
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: and it's something we've kind of banded about without addressing directly.

656
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: If nobody differentiates himself. I mean, why you know, I

657
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: mean that I was saying I was going to ask

658
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: you both of this question. Should we be disappointed it's

659
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: only two weeks in, but should we be worried or

660
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: disappointed that not one of the three quarterbacks has jumped

661
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: to the front yet? Is that what you're doing? Yeah?

662
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean, and plus if it's if it gets to

663
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: the point where it's a dead heat throw the young

664
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: guy in let him learn and live with it. I mean,

665
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: if if he doesn't give you a worse chance or

666
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: a better chance of winning. I mean, that's the question.

667
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Two different questions, right it is. Well, yeah, the first

668
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: thing is here is is well, let's look at the

669
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: three guys. First of all, you got Josh Allen, who's

670
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: probably overwhelmed. Seems like a good young man, has a

671
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: great has a great arm. I mean, he's got a

672
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: cannon on the end of his shoulder, right, so they say.

673
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: And I've seen him make some throws that are pretty impressive,

674
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: and he really can put a lot of velocity on football.

675
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes you need some touch as well, and I don't

676
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: know if he has that yet. Haven't seen her enough

677
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: to understand that component of his game. If he can

678
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: featherballs in when they need to be feathered, and if

679
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: he can throw him with some velocity when they need

680
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: the velocity. So that's the first thing about Josh Allen.

681
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: But I would think that he would be overwhelmed and

682
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: probably overwhelmed with the playbook. Although an intelligent young man,

683
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of material to consume and then

684
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: and then stop thinking when you're playing, because you don't

685
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: want to be thinking when you're out there trying to

686
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: play football. A J. McCarron. You look at his situation.

687
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: He's been in Cincinnati for five years and or for

688
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: four years. This is his fifth year right in the league,

689
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: and you say he's been practicing a long time, and

690
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: he's been throwing. He's been throwing footballs against scout team

691
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: personnel for a long time in Cincinnati. So I could

692
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: see the mentality there where I know he wants to

693
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: impress his new teammates and the new coaching staff, but

694
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 1: he might have more of a game mentality like, look,

695
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for four and a half years,

696
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: and now I need to get into games game time, right,

697
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: So you might see more of him and more evidence

698
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: of that when he gets into the game time. And

699
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman a little bit the same way. But he's

700
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: got a lot to prove in practice sessions moving up

701
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: as well, because he had a lot of growth last year,

702
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: but but certainly has does not have very much seat time.

703
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: So that the only thing that concerns me about starting

704
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen if they feel like that's what the situation

705
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: is going to unfold here as the preseason unfolds, is

706
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have You're gonna have an offensive line

707
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: configuration of five guys that have never taken a snap together.

708
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: And that's concerning to me because that group needs a

709
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: lot of synergy to be able to perform at a

710
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: high level and protect that quarterback. Did you hear him

711
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: say seat time? That's like a race. I was gonna

712
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: give it trouble about thecar finacular issues and you yeah,

713
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: we did hit you throw. I saw you on Sunday

714
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: in pitt Row right before and you're you were driving

715
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: a car. I've got guys, I've never driven at Watkins Glenn.

716
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: You get to drive at the Glen. One of the

717
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: best on the NASCAR circuit, no question about it. That

718
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: we had well and you know what, you know what

719
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: excites me and that the fact that that track has

720
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: been voted the number one track in NASCAR for the

721
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: last three or four years. Yeah. Absolutely, because it's a

722
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, I considered a western New York track. I

723
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: know it's central New York, but a lot of New

724
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: York people there and it's just that you know, when

725
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: you go there and you feel like it's God's country. Listen,

726
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: when you get when you get in that region of

727
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: the fingers and it's down south, and you get the

728
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: and you get a day like they had and a

729
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: weekend like they had. I mean, it's fantastic. You could

730
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: you could center your entire summer around that. Yeah, I

731
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: think some people, Yeah, it's unbelievable. It was. It was

732
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: a blast most of us, like me, I had no

733
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: idea a lot of fun. So I went down there.

734
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. I'm glad. It was a great entertainment

735
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: for you. I, on the other hand, had to work. Yeah. Work.

736
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: He's giving tours and he's you know, he's drinking no

737
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: drinking water. He's like walking around glad, handing people talking

738
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: or walking around like yeah, that's the way you've got

739
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah. Yeah, you weren't breaking rocks with

740
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: a hammer. I know that. And he didn't carry a

741
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: wrench around either. This is true. But with us. Mark

742
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: Kelso's with us color man on the Bills broadcasting with

743
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: us tomorrow night bills in Carolina. Let me ask you

744
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: the question we're asking fans, and by the way, you

745
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: can respond to ask any questions. Phone lines open at

746
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty and toll Free one

747
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Mark, let's

748
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: move off the quarterbacks. Other than the quarterbacks, give me

749
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: two players that you're most interested in watching in Toronto's games. First,

750
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills are concerned. Well, this will probably come

751
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: as no surprise, but but I'm interested to see Tremaine

752
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: Edmunds obviously because he comes with such a such a

753
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: high pedigree and great expectations. He's only twenty twenty years old.

754
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: For crying out loud, He's just he's just a young guy.

755
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: But he has from what I'm told, and I haven't

756
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: seen him play very much, but I'm told he has

757
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: just some real youthful exuberance and and just loves to

758
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: play the game. And he's gonna just energize, I think,

759
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: energize that entire defensive unit because I think there's some

760
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: maturity out there as well, and Micah and Jordan and

761
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: Kyle and those guys that will be able to surround

762
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: the young player. And I think, boy, everything I've heard

763
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: is that he's reached the level of expectation they've had

764
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: for him at this point. And let's see what happens

765
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: when he steps on the field, So I'm interested in

766
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: seeing that situation. And then I'm really interested in seeing

767
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin and I think, you know, he probably had

768
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: some extreme disappointment when the trade happened last year, and

769
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: it kind of came as a surprise to him, it

770
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: seemed like it. And then he had the injury, made

771
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: a number of really good plays last year, but has

772
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: some great capabilities, and my understanding is that he's gotten

773
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: himself in fantastic shape, probably the best shape of his

774
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: young NFL career here, and I think that he needs

775
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: to have a major impact here on this offensive unit

776
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: if they're going to be successful in the passing game.

777
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: And you go back to Tremaine Edmonds and you talk

778
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: about the expectation. Certainly, he's a first round draft pick

779
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: who was the second first round draft pick of the

780
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: Bills this year. But one of the things that I

781
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: find very interesting, certainly, every high draft pick comes in

782
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: with some expectation. I think his expectation, particularly within the

783
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: building and with Murph and I and people like us

784
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: who hang around the team we watch and practice, the

785
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: expectations have been absolutely skyrocketed by the kind of guy

786
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: he is and the feet back We've heard from the coaches,

787
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: from the players, from you know, his teammates about how

788
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: over the top ready he seemed for this, and how

789
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: how mature he seemed, how how much he attacked the job.

790
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: He has earned a real raised level of expectation even

791
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: for a first round draft, because he has has exceeded

792
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: all expectations to this point. Well, and I think he

793
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: when you look at his family background, and you look

794
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: at his parents, and you look at the way he

795
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: was raised, and you say that he understands that that

796
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 1: decisions have consequences, and if you make the right decisions,

797
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have right consequences and if you make

798
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: bad decisions, you're probably gonna have bad consequences. And and uh,

799
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: and seems like a guy that again, a template that

800
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: this team seems to begin to place on players that

801
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: they intend to to select or trade for or draft

802
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: is that you know, do the right thing for the

803
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: right reasons, and if you do those things, then and

804
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: things are probably going to turn out pretty favorably. And

805
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: he seems like he has that mentality, and he's had

806
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: a mentality that enables him or or encourages him. I

807
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: think to get in the classroom and understand and learn

808
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: from the guys that have done it for a long time.

809
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Lorenzo Alexander's right there and ramone number

810
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: have been right there with the breadth of experience that

811
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: they had just pouring into this young guy. And I

812
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: know that Coach McDermott said it again today that he

813
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: likes the young players to drain the knowledge of some

814
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: of those veteran players. And when you get when you

815
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: get to be an older player, I won't speak about

816
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: anybody except myself, but there's no question that at some

817
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: point in your career you realize you don't you you've

818
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: lost a half a step, or you don't have quite

819
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: the athleticism maybe that you had earlier in your career

820
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: as a result of injuries or other things. But what

821
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: you lose in that half a step you gain in

822
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: knowledge of the game and understanding positioning on the field

823
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: and understand how to put yourself in the right position

824
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: and anticipate, and quite frankly, you can gain gain spots

825
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: when you're when you're in that situation, and I think

826
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: that's that's the situation. Tremaine Edwins wants to find himself

827
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: in let's let's play fast because I'm a young guy,

828
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: but let's soak in all that knowledge that the veterans

829
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: can pour into. And let's let's face it. Guys get

830
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: a lot of kudos when they're willing to do that

831
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 1: for young players, but by the same token, most guys,

832
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: and I think most people in general, when you get

833
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: asked for advice, it's flattering. Players are players are usually

834
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: more because it's like everybody, when people ask you for

835
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: advice because they think, you know, they it's kind of

836
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: a sign of respect. And I think players really respond

837
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: to that. And I think these these players like Kyle Williams,

838
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander and you name it. I think players respond

839
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: to that. And I think it's a It's a great

840
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: way to um, you know, deepen the bond of teammates,

841
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: no question, but also make your whole team better with

842
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: that kind of attitude. Yeah, And sometimes the attitude is

843
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: you need to give me respect and that I'll give

844
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: you respect and return. And he does not seem like

845
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: a guy like that. He's a guy that says like,

846
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you respect and then I would

847
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: like it if you would invest in me and invest

848
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: in my career. And I think when you have that

849
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: situation occurring on teams and create those networks amongst your teammates,

850
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: that's when you have a real success team. Steve and

851
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: Iago and Mark Kelso will be doing the color analysts

852
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: on the analysis on the Bills radio broadcast tomorrow. Which

853
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: players Which couple of players would be watching closely tomorrow

854
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: other than quarterbacks. Got a call on the line from

855
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: Ryan from Erie, Pennsylvania. With his answer to that, Ryan,

856
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Thanks John. I'm hoping

857
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: to see some breakout performances from Shack Lawson and Zay Jones.

858
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see that he got day back from injury,

859
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: hoping he's ready to produce. We really need help at

860
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: the receiver position, and I hope Shack Lawson can actually

861
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: return from that first dump pick that he was for us.

862
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: I've heard some people actually say that he might get traded.

863
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: I hope he produces before that before some might that happened. Ryan, Yeah,

864
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't think, and he hasn't practiced yet. I wouldn't

865
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: look for Zay Jones tomorrow at all. He has in practice.

866
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: He's been in a Red Jersey. You know, just back

867
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: this last Sunday, it was his first day on the field.

868
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson is interesting, Mark, we were talking about the

869
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: injury and it's a week long injury now for Trent

870
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: Murphy works to the benefit of Shack Lawson, right, they

871
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: would they would be more interested in seeing what he's

872
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: got and he'll get more playing time with Trent Murphy

873
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: not ready to go, yeah with that question, and you

874
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: know what you have in Trent Murphy. And I think

875
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: that was a great offseason acquisition, by the way, because

876
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: that will free up Jerry Hughes on the other side

877
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: and when they bring some pressure packages because he's a

878
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: he's a tough guy to handle coming off the edge

879
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: and will require more personnel than just one guy an

880
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: offensive tackle to block him. So that'll that'll produce some

881
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: dividends for the defensive unit. But yeah, there's no question

882
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: that Shack Lawson will will benefit from that and coming

883
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: back off the injury. I mean, he did some really

884
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: good things early in his career and let's hope that

885
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: he can get back to that level because I think

886
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: he has a role to play on this defensive line,

887
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: particularly in this era of the constant substitution of the line.

888
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: You have to keep those guys fresh, and that's correct,

889
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: You have to you have to keep them fresh, and

890
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: you have to keep pressing the quarterback and you can't

891
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: allow him any time to stand back there. If you do,

892
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: it's going to be detrimental to the defense. And so

893
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: hopefully he'll have an opportunity. And you don't like to

894
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: see it to be at some body else's expense, but

895
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: hopefully it'll be at the team's benefit. Hey, Mark, before

896
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: we'll let you go, and we're going to talk with

897
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: Jim Zokia, the Panther's radio broadcast team, next hour. But

898
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: there's one Carolina Panther that both of you guys have

899
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: some familiarity with because you played with his father, Gail Gilbert,

900
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: longtime third quarterback for the Buffalo Bills. He was here

901
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl run about four or five years

902
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: eighty nine through ninety three. His son, Garrett is the

903
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: second quarterback on the depth chart for Carolina. I suspect

904
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't remember. My wife and I we did meet

905
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: Garrett when he was a little guy. He's a little toddler,

906
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: but you know, I know he's he has a pedigree

907
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: of having a strong arm, and I you know, I

908
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: relate one story to the audience here about his father,

909
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know if his arm is the same

910
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: arm strength as of his father, but I would say

911
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Number one is that I had the benefit as a

912
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: defensive back of seeing the guy with the strongest arm

913
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL every single day we faced him because

914
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: he was the scout team quarterback, Gail Gilbert three. He

915
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: had the strongest arm in the NFL. He would kneel

916
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: down at the fifty yard line and he would throw

917
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: a babe to the end zone to one of these

918
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: guys that were sitting there. I mean, he had the

919
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: strongest So I'm like I said, I never played a

920
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: guy on game day that had a stronger arm than

921
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: than ye down and that was and that was a

922
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: huge benefit to our defensive unit because we knew if

923
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: we could break up a pass or something that was

924
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: intended out of the arm of Dale Gilbert, that we

925
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: were going to be able to do it. On game day,

926
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: I was sitting there, let me ask. It was in Washington. Yeah,

927
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: I think he's only start for the Bills, right, maybe

928
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: one of yeah, he I don't know if he started,

929
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: but he played. I'm looking at his numbers. He played

930
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: one game in nineteen ninety and one game in ninety

931
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: three for the Bills regular ninety three is the one

932
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: I think. I'm thinking he didn't he didn't even throw

933
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: a pass. Okay, it must have been ninety. Then got

934
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: in again. He was playing Washington, and um, he got

935
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: in the game and I caught caught a touchdown front.

936
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: A big strong arm he had. Oh he had a

937
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: big he would hurt you. Yeah. He was like if

938
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: he didn't have gloves on his like catching a cheese yeah, yeah,

939
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: was he could put it. Yeah, and he was. He

940
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: was accurate too, he really was. He was. He was

941
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: a good quarter He's a good pro quarterback. And he

942
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: played the four Super Bowls with us and then went

943
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: to San Diego and playing the So he may be

944
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: the only player in NFL history that played in five

945
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: consecutive Super Bowls. Didn't play, but was on the roster

946
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: and part of the team. Told Mark the story before

947
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: we picked you up today, gil Gilbert, I was at

948
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: the championship game in Pittsburgh. The Chargers beat the Steelers

949
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Gil Gilbert on the Chargers roster and I

950
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: went right up to him post game and he looked

951
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: at me, starts laughing. He goes, can you believe it,

952
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm going back to another super Bowl and nothing he was,

953
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: and he was five, and the super bowls to right, right,

954
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: that's right. But his son backup quarterback for the Panthers. Yeah,

955
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: excited to see him play. Like I said, I do

956
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: think he has a big arm, and excited to see

957
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: what he can do. I'm sure he'll get some as

958
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: we say in NASCAR, seat time tomorrow at the quarterback position.

959
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: You got some stand time in our booth tomorrow. I'm

960
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: looking forward to getting back to Yeah. No, it's gonna

961
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: be exciting and it's fun to get back to it.

962
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to see the fans out there

963
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: supporting the team, team, and it's football season again, and

964
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: it's exciting times. They're excited about it. Because we were

965
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: doing the Return of the Blue and Red. You were

966
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: there Friday scrimmage and I was laughing because I wasn't

967
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: here in eighty five, but I heard stories and I said,

968
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: told people, the crowd for the practice last Friday was

969
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: as big as some of the nineteen eighty five home crowds.

970
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: They were like twenty thousand people there. I think the

971
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: lowest they got was down to fifteen grand I think

972
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: right for one of the home games, and sure enough

973
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: that they had more than that for a practice last Friday.

974
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: And nice to see the community continues to support the

975
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: team like they always have. And I think that's why

976
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: I think that this coaching staff and these players understand

977
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: very early in their career that this is one, if

978
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: not the best fan base in the NFL. Thanks Mark,

979
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. Good to be here. Mark Kelso,

980
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: former Bills safety color analysts on the Bills Radio Network,

981
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: will be on the year tomorrow night on our flagship

982
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo here w g R Sports Radio five fifty

983
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: the Bills in Carolina at seven o'clock. Stick around, Steve

984
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: and I have a lot more ground to cover today.

985
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

986
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Life. Thank you

987
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: to Mark Kelso for joining us here today for a

988
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Jim Zoki's gonna join us coming up

989
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: next hour. He's the color analyst and Steve's passing money over.

990
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: He passed me at twenty and then this one for

991
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: making it back here today. Did you see we should

992
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: probably wait till we get the artwork. Though. On Twitter though,

993
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: one of our followers, Steve, had a map of our here.

994
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: It is Michael Bordonaro, the map from Saint John Fisher

995
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: to one to one Bill's Drive forty one. And it

996
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: was just He's right, that is the exact time it

997
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: almost it took us to get here. He said, if

998
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: you left it ten to nineteen, you were cutting it

999
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: very close to the noonstar type. Yeah. Why do you

1000
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: think I'm kind of We had laid money on it.

1001
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: It was a dollar Steve Amanel, Why do you think

1002
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit It's hard to drive. I fastened

1003
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: a terrible rain storm, not speeding, and and now I'm

1004
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: a little bit rattled. I gotta say, Steve, well, but

1005
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: we got it. Big wild card was the toll booth Williamsville,

1006
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes you get backed up there, and

1007
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, and the easy pass lanes are on the

1008
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: wrong side of the the highway and all of that.

1009
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: So I'm you know, it's just I'm still a mess too.

1010
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: I can't even get my my IFB pieces in. I'm

1011
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: struggling with that I mean, we're kind of a hot

1012
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: mess there until Kelso got here. Yeah, and he comed

1013
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: us down. YEA. A question that I don't see now,

1014
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: but I think it was on Twitter earlier about the

1015
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: the the routine that players having a day like today.

1016
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: Steve and I were the reason why we rushed back here.

1017
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: We were in Rochester, had a production meeting with coach

1018
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: McDermott at nine thirty eight this morning, right and left

1019
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: there as soon as it was over. But um, they

1020
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: have a routine. The players are still there, but they

1021
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: have a preseason routine, especially for a home game. Steve,

1022
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: you got the question for you right there. Yeah. Yeah,

1023
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: So I've always wondered how the schedule works for home

1024
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: preseason games during camp. Do the players travel by bus

1025
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: from Saint John Fisher or drive themselves? Do they come

1026
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: right back after the game or stay in Orchard Park?

1027
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: And this is from Rock City rep. The they're gonna

1028
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: bust over this afternoon from Saint John fred Now they're

1029
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: scheduled tight. They got a tight schedule today. They had

1030
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: team meeting this morning, special teams meeting. They had a

1031
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: pregame substitution meeting. They have meetings, they have lunch they

1032
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: have treatments, you know, medical treatments. Not too much going on,

1033
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: probably just to walk through. They're gonna come over later

1034
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: this afternoon. They'll drive over, they'll come straight here to

1035
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: the stadium to one Bill's drive. They'll have treatments again,

1036
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: have more meetings. They might have a walkthrough here on

1037
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: the field, probably in the field house. Then they go

1038
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: to U dinner tonight, they'll have here at the stadium,

1039
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: and they'll go to the hotel tonight and have a

1040
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: regular pregame meeting meetings curfew at like ten thirty tonight,

1041
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: and so they're scheduled all day, but they'll all bust

1042
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: over here together, and then after the game, I think

1043
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: they get a day off. So the guys who have

1044
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: a support network here, I think they have a little

1045
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: walk through here Friday afternoon right here though. Yeah, So

1046
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: they'll stay here in Orchard Park Friday after the game,

1047
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: and then they'll give him a little bit of a

1048
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: of a break physically first pregame. One of the things

1049
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: we got to get to break here. But one of

1050
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: the things that if you're around Sean mcturmo a little bit,

1051
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: you realize that what he's trying to do He started

1052
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: it last week and I reinforce it this week. Here's

1053
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: our game day routine, here's our day before the game

1054
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: day routine. He's trying to instill that in these players,

1055
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: and many of whom will never played a game in

1056
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. And even today, Sean said to us, Look,

1057
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: we got guys who played at Kataba College and they've

1058
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: never played in I just put in Kataba, he said,

1059
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: You guys never played in a stadium bigger than ten thousand.

1060
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: You know, they need to go through this routine, see

1061
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: what it's like, what game day looks like, including the

1062
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: pregame routine the night before the game. And it also

1063
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: helps it when you got everybody doing it together. They

1064
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: don't just and it's been something that's way for some teams.

1065
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: They don't worry about that they'll come, they'll just bring

1066
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: the rookies will come over by themselves, and the veterans

1067
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: will drive themselves because you can trust him, I think,

1068
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's a right move. If you get

1069
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: the team together, bust everybody over together, keep them together

1070
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: so the young players can see the old players do

1071
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: the same thing they do. It sets a standard and

1072
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: that's I think it's a smart thing to do that

1073
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: not all clubs do. Because you get to a point

1074
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: where I, you know what I you know, and I

1075
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: knew this. I was both as a young player and

1076
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: as an older player, and the young players me, I

1077
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: was a single where you know where, I just you know,

1078
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: I was watching around just it was me. I just

1079
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: did whatever the team told me to. If they they

1080
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: provided the ride, I'd take it. You know, I didn't

1081
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: need I didn't have anybody else to worry about now.

1082
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: And then as an older player, I got you know,

1083
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: four kids, a wife, a mortgage, I got things I

1084
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: want to do away from the game. Let me drive

1085
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: myself to the game, please, because I got family I

1086
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: gotta take care of. So it runs the whole spectrum.

1087
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: But when you tell them early enough to say hey,

1088
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: this is what it's going to be, you can prepare

1089
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: for it. And I think it's good for the team.

1090
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: And let's face it, you gotta you know, that's all

1091
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: you're really worried about at this time of year. You're

1092
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: trying to get the guys right and get these young

1093
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: players acclimated. It's a good question, though, Thank you for

1094
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: asking that question. All right. One hour in the books,

1095
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: two hours to go is team tasker John Murphy. Jim

1096
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: Zoki is going to join us in the next hour.

1097
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: He is the play by play for the Panthers preseason games.

1098
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about Caroline. That's some interesting names

1099
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: on that roster. We'll get some of that background from him.

1100
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: And coming up at two o'clock an interesting name Brian Urlacher,

1101
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: brand new Pro Football Hall of Famer. He'll be live

1102
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: with us. Coming up at two. More discussion on our

1103
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: topic of the day. Who are you looking at closely tomorrow?

1104
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: Besides the quarterbacks? Come on back, Steve and I just

1105
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: getting rolling. One Bill's Live presented by Colada Health from

1106
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radiofalo Bills Radio

1107
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: Network Stories. The update from One Bill's Drive. The Buffalo

1108
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Bills on the eve of their first preseason game for

1109
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. The team meeting today at Saint John Fisher

1110
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: College in Rochester as they get set to play the

1111
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers tomorrow night. Nowhere down the quarterback lineup get

1112
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: or tomorrow's game. The Bills not acted to have Zay

1113
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: Jones available for the games. A Jones as yet to

1114
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: practice in this training camp as he comes back from

1115
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: offseason surgery. Bills in Carolina seven o'clock kickoff at New Airfield,

1116
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: the first preseason game of twenty eighteen for the Buffalo Bills.

1117
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: You can hear it here in a flagship in Buffalo

1118
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: WGR Sports Radio by fifty The Bills in the Carolina

1119
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: Panthers coming up tomorrow. The Bills return to training camp

1120
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: for a Sunday practice this weekend. Cleveland Brown's work rookie

1121
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver Antonio Callaway has been cited for a marijuana

1122
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: possession and driving with a suspended license. It happened last Sunday.

1123
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: The Browns a Day are aware of the citation are

1124
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: in the process of gathering more information. Callaway expected to

1125
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: appear in court tomorrow. Los Angeles Chargers defensive end Joey

1126
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: Bosa suffered a left foot injury during practice yesterday. He

1127
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: is not expected to miss much practice time, however. Bosa

1128
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: led the Chargers with twelve and a half sacks last year.

1129
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: Went to the Pro Bowl in the twenty seventeen season.

1130
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: National Hockey League Chicago Blackhawks star Stan Mkia passed away

1131
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 1: yesterday at the age of seventy eight. Played his entire

1132
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: twenty two season NHL career with Chicago from nineteen fifty

1133
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: nine through nineteen eighty is number twenty one. The first

1134
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: to be retired about Chicago won the Stanley Cup in

1135
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one, went to the Hockey Hall of Fame

1136
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty three. The only player in NHL history

1137
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: to win the Art Ross Heart and Lady Bring Big

1138
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: Trophies in the same season did the two years in

1139
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: a row. Stan Mkita passed away yesterday at the age

1140
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: of seventy eight, and Rangers pitcher Bartobo Cologne made major

1141
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: League history last ninety earned his two hundred and forty

1142
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: six career victory, the most wins all time by a

1143
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: Latin American born pitcher. It was an eleven to four

1144
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: win over Seattle for Texas, is sixth try at the

1145
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: Milestone Artoto Cologne. That's the update from One Bill's Drive,

1146
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio here

1147
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: in Notchard Park. What do you got there, Steve? What

1148
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: do you read? Jordan Rodrigue, reporter, per League source says

1149
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: Panthers center guard The reason I bring this up is

1150
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: because the Panthers are coming to Buffalo, probably arrived today.

1151
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: Tyler Larson signed a two year, four point four million

1152
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: dollars extension. One point four million of it is guaranteed.

1153
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: The club expected is to be signed. It's a huge

1154
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: as expected to be signed today. It's a huge move

1155
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: for the club because it's insurance behind Ryan Khalil, because

1156
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: they also have a Meani Seela Tolu Hurt. So that

1157
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: the Panthers just signed a center guard, swing guy down

1158
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 1: inside to four point four million dollar extension and you'll

1159
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: probably see him play tomorrownight against the Buffalo Bills. Bills

1160
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: and the and the Carolina Panthers tomorrow and handling the

1161
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: play by play tomorrow's game. Is our next guest on

1162
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: the Subway fresh take Katline, big part of the Carolina

1163
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: Panthers radio network for several years and handling play by

1164
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: play duties tomorrow. Happy to have Jim Zoka on the

1165
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: line with us. Jim, it's John Murphy and Steve task

1166
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: Gerry here in Buffalo. Thank you very much for joining us. Okay,

1167
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: hey guys, how's it going. Murph and Steve, good to

1168
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: talk to you. Good to have you with us. Thank

1169
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: you for coming. When are you guys leaving? You coming

1170
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: up this afternoon, very soon, actually minutes away from the stadium.

1171
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: We'll get out playing this afternoon and to be up

1172
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: there early afternoon today. You know, it seems Jim, and

1173
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: I've mentioned this to Steve earlier today, whether it's preseason,

1174
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: regular season, and it even goes beyond McDermot and Bean,

1175
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: it seems like the Bills and the Panthers have seen

1176
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: a lot of each other over recent years, doesn't it.

1177
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: It does just wait, the schedule's fallen, obviously a number

1178
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: of preseason games now, but of course last year the

1179
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: regular season game here too, And as you said, we

1180
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: got that connection with the coach and the GM. You

1181
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: got I think five X Panthers on your roster. We

1182
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: got a number of X Bills over here. We got

1183
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people that boomed from Buffalo to Charlotte,

1184
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure in reverse to Charlotte to Buffalo. So yeah,

1185
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: a lot of connect Yeah yeah, talk a little bit

1186
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: about the five coming out of your camp. I mean,

1187
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: were everybody's up a couple of weeks in starting to

1188
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: get a feel for who's playing. Well, are the You're

1189
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot a lot of surprises, are not

1190
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: too many surprises? Coming out of Carolina camp. You were

1191
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: eleven and five last year. I would expect not too

1192
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: much change over. Yeah, Steve, I think yeah. The big

1193
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: thing is with us is trying to get through the

1194
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: rest of those camp without the injuries. We've had three

1195
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: significant ones. Now you mentioned Amani Silatulu. We just got

1196
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: inserted and left guard because of the fact that our

1197
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: starting right tackle Darryl Williams got hurt, so one of

1198
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: the guys competing at that left guard spot. Second, you're

1199
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: player Taylor Moten got moved over to that right tackle spot,

1200
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: so essentially two there. And thought this is a domino

1201
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: effect of trying to replace Andrew Norwell, who signed that

1202
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: huge contract Pro Bowl guard with the Jacksonville So the

1203
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: offensive line is probably one of the question marks right now.

1204
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: I think the other thing is the secondary. We've got

1205
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: two jobs open, one in the safety position, one at

1206
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: corner opposite James Bradberry. And then we lost one of

1207
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: the guys competing, Ross Cockrell, who just came over played

1208
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: at Duke because the local kid from Charlotte Latin High

1209
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: School here, he has been in lead. You guys know

1210
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: him for a couple of years and so you know again,

1211
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: it's it's nothing that that teams don't face during the

1212
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: course of the season, but they have three in the

1213
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: span of just over a week or so is a lot.

1214
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: So hopefully we got our allotment out of the way.

1215
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: Jim Zokie from the Panthers Radio and never kind the

1216
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: line with its a lot of connections. I want to

1217
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: ask you about those, But tell me about the switching

1218
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Jim, how much different well the Carolina offense

1219
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: looked this year from from the Shula offensive several years

1220
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: to Norv Turner's offense. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna

1221
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: be dramatically different. Part of that is because you know,

1222
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: Lan Rivera is one of those guys that likes to

1223
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: have you know, there's not a lot of teams that

1224
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: I'd like to run the ball as much as we

1225
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: do here, so Norv turners on board with that. So

1226
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: in the past, happy league, this is gonna be a

1227
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: team that's going to try to be balanced with the

1228
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: run of the past. I think some of the nuances

1229
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: are I know what Norv likes to have is a

1230
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: lot of precise route running course. Everybody wants that, but

1231
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 1: that's it's one of the things that is really predicated

1232
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: that the ball is delivered to a spot the receiver

1233
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: is there a lot of timing patterns, but also the

1234
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: vertical game, and I think we lost some of that

1235
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: last year despite the fact we were eleven and five.

1236
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: We were nineteenth in offense, but we were fourth in

1237
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: the run, so we were much more pass if the

1238
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: trouble then we were in the run game is that

1239
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: loss of ten in so having a healthy demure Bird

1240
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, drafting became more bringing intories. There's a lot

1241
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: of over the pass game, which if you get the

1242
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: running game going, you get some play acction going and

1243
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: maybe get some some deep pass opportunities more so than

1244
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: all we had last year. One of the things that's

1245
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: going on here in Buffalo, I don't know if you've

1246
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: heard we've got a three way battle for a quarterback spot.

1247
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: They they're not saying who's actually separating themselves. Not so

1248
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: much in Carolina, talk about how did the offseason go

1249
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: around your franchise quarterback after eleven and five season, seems

1250
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: like it's a little bit business as usual. Cam seems

1251
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: to be the engine that drives your offense and he's

1252
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: still as solid as he's ever been. And what's the

1253
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: vibe going on at camp about Cam and also the

1254
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: guys who were backing him up. Is there going to

1255
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: be any changes? Oh yeah, there's a change there. But

1256
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: to start with Cam's you know, it's a lot better

1257
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: than it was twelve months ago because Las year year

1258
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: was coming off of offseason shoulder surgery and they didn't

1259
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: know exactly with that time it was going to be.

1260
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: In fact, I remember the early part of training camp

1261
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: he saw some tightness and soreness, and there was a

1262
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: lot of unknowns. He began the season barely running the

1263
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: ball at all, and then by the end of the

1264
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: year he had more watching attempts than he's had in

1265
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: his career, and that was unfortunately predicated by some other

1266
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: key players not performing as well and because of injuries.

1267
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: But behind him there's a battle of two kind of

1268
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: relatively unknown to most fans, younger veteran guys. One is

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Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert, who was on the team last year as

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00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback, Gail Gilbert's son for those who remember

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Speaker 1: back in the day of seatble and so forth. And

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00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: then the others Taylor Heineke, who was a star at

1273
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: old dominion. He was in nor of system Ian Minnesota

1274
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with Houston last year as

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00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: a backup. But those two guys combine for one regular

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00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: season pass attempts, so not a lot of experience there.

1277
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: But the Panthers seemed pretty high that whichever one of

1278
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: those two comes out on top will be a solid

1279
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: backup for Cam Newton and Derek Anderson has been the

1280
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: guy's been here for a few years and they've decided

1281
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: to move off of that and Derek not wanting to

1282
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: sign with another team at this stage of life, essentially retired,

1283
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: so definitely a change is the backup quarterback spot. Jim,

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00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: we were just talking about Garrett Gilbert with Stephen and

1285
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: my other partner, Mark Kelso. His dad played here to

1286
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: Gail Gilbert played on the Super Bowl team. Mark Kelso says,

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00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: Gail Gilbert has the strongest arm of any quarterback he's

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00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: ever seen. Is Garrett Gilbert like that as well? Big

1289
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: strong arm? I would say not big strong arm. I

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00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: would just say more of a typical NFL arm if anything.

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00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: Maybe Taylor Heineke has a slightly stronger arm than what

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00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: he has, so it's it's good enough. Obviously, but I

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00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't called a cannon, but it's good enough. Sure. Let

1294
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: me get you back to Cam Newton for a second

1295
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: and that odd exchange. Over the weekend, Kelvin Benjamin did

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00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: had some comments in an interview here in Buffalo about

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00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: Cam Newton playing with Cam. I don't know Cam Newton well,

1298
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: but I imagine he shook that out pretty easily down

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00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: there in Carolina, right. Yeah. I think he was kind

1300
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: of caught people off guard, because you know it's with

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00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: players leave sometimes it doesn't end well. But it didn't

1302
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: seem like there was a lot to the KB trade

1303
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: in terms of personal I think Greg olsens some guys

1304
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: addressed it. Cam really hasn't addressed it out loud. Coach

1305
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: didn't want to address it. It was more like, you know,

1306
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know there was that much bad blood or

1307
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: that much animosity built up. Was kind of a surprise there,

1308
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: but you know, those things happen. I saw your coach, obviously,

1309
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: John McDermott, who was here quickly kind of stuffing it

1310
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: out that you guys handle things like that, and we

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00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: know that. So it was unfortunate to see it. Not

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00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: a big deal, I guess in the scheme of things.

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: I would just say it was interesting that that had

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Speaker 1: happened at all. It just seemed kind of out of

1315
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: the blue. And maybe sometimes you get into an interview

1316
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: situation and that's just you get drawn into a conversation

1317
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, talk a little bit about your draft

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Speaker 1: class in Carolina. Give us a little a quick synopsis

1319
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Speaker 1: DJ Moore. You know, it's kind of surprising they went

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Speaker 1: receiver overall in the first round, but when there were

1321
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: no receivers taken, it was just too good to pass up.

1322
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: And they had their choice obviously of any receiver in

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Speaker 1: the draft, and they liked DJ Moore and took him.

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: And so you know, Steve Smith likes him a lot,

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01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: and it's a little bit of Steve Smith in the

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Speaker 1: way he plays. He actually brings a little more size

1327
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: of speed, but they think he's got a huge upside there.

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01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: And then where they really did have a need we

1329
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier secondary, So they went back to back down

1330
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Speaker 1: a Jackson, a corner out of LSU who's really fast

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01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: but a little undersize, so we'll see how he does

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01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: in a tackling situation in the game. And then kind

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Speaker 1: of the opposite with the next pick, of safety and

1334
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: Rashan Golden, who's a bigger guy, a tackler who doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of footspeed. So it'll be kind of

1336
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: interesting to see how those two guys fare starting with

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Speaker 1: this buffle of Hey, Jim, want to ask you about

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01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: last year's number one, Christian McCaffrey. Had a good rookie

1339
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: year for the Panthers. But what more do they need

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01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: from McCaffrey in his second year? What are they looking

1341
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: for from him? Yeah, you know, he was an eighty

1342
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: reception guy, so a lot of checkdowns he did exactly

1343
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: kind of brought what they wanted to the offensive speed,

1344
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: get him an open spaces. Saw a staff the other

1345
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: day that as a running back, he lined up in

1346
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: the slot more than any other running back by far

1347
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: in the league, but only three point seven yards per carry,

1348
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: So I know he and the team would probably like

1349
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: to see that number pick up a little bit more.

1350
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: Of course, we brought in CJ. Anderson until that Jonathan

1351
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: Stewart between the tackles type of role in general. But

1352
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: while they won't run McCaffrey a lot between the tackles,

1353
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: I think you got to show that you could be

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01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: that kind of running back just so you're not so predictable.

1355
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: So I think for him, I'm sure he'd like to

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01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: get to four over four yards per carry and be

1357
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: more of an influence in the running game where he

1358
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: was somewhere in the low four hundreds last year overall

1359
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: for the season and rushing. And before we leave the offense,

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Speaker 1: I got one more guy to ask you about, only

1361
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: because I think it's a great story. Chris Manhert's former

1362
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: kenisis college basketball star down there now really becoming a

1363
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: legitimate tight end in the NFL. He's number two in

1364
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: your depth chart right he is. Unfortunately he's injured. He

1365
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: had a bit of a foot injury, the same one

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01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: that Greg Olson had last year. So I think they're

1367
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: optimistic he'll be back around the start of the regular season,

1368
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: and he wants to hurry back, guys, because you're right.

1369
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: I think he did a good job last year. But

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01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: they drafted a kiddie and Thomas out of Indiana, and

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01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: he looked really good. You'll see him tomorrow in camp.

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Speaker 1: So right now he's the number two tight end behind

1373
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: Greg Olson, which means in preseason game number one you'll

1374
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: be seeing a lot of him. But like man Hurts

1375
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: personally is a great guy, as you guys know, just

1376
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: a great kid and big body, very athletic being a

1377
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: basketball players. He said, So, I think there's a spot

1378
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: for him on this team. But again, we want to

1379
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: run the balls. We're gonna do a lot of two

1380
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: tight end sets and things like this. I think it's

1381
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: a place for him, and we let Dixon go as

1382
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: a free agent of Seattle. So I think Man Hurts

1383
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: will be okay as far as making that fifty three

1384
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: when he's healthy. And when you look at the roster

1385
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: from you know, Panthers roster from outside looking like we

1386
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: are in Buffalo, one name really jumps out of you know,

1387
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: kind of turning into a kind of legendary figures. Julius

1388
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: Peppers back for what is this his thirty fifth season

1389
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. The guy is still a

1390
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: phenomenal athlete. I mean, when you stand up next to him,

1391
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: you understand why a guy like that can play for

1392
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: seventeen years. Talk about the you know, the scuttle butt

1393
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: and the and the you know what is the team

1394
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: saying about his return and how much of a factory

1395
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: he's going to because he's gonna play. I mean you

1396
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: can't keep that guy off the field. She came back

1397
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: last year and the feeling was that it was just

1398
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: kind of a swan song. He's gonna wrap up his

1399
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: career at home in his home state former tar heel

1400
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: began his career eight years with Carolina, that he would

1401
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: just come back and play a season and that's where

1402
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: he would head off. But he played so well even

1403
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: in the part timeral. He had eleven quarterback sacks last year,

1404
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: so still double digits. And you know he had off

1405
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: season shoulder surgery, so he's really not doing much at

1406
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: all right now. Just got cleared off the pup list,

1407
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: but you know they'll bubble wrap him and run him

1408
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: out there on pass downs and typically something like twenty

1409
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: five snaps per game in a regular season game. I

1410
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: will say a lot of his sacks team in the

1411
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: first half of last year, and the kind hailed off

1412
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see if that's if the second

1413
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: half was aware down or is that kind of where

1414
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: he is right now. But whatever he brings, I mean,

1415
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: he just has to be a part of the rotation,

1416
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: part of the equation, and the guys love playing with him.

1417
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, just to have a Hall of famer, a

1418
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer in the locker room and to

1419
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: play with is just really inspirational to all these guys.

1420
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: Talking with Jim Saki from the Carolina Panthers radio network

1421
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: in the Carolina Defense Star Lotula is here. Now is

1422
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: Don Terry Poe? Is he him? I'm great over Lola?

1423
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: Is he adequate replacement? What do you see there? Jim? Yeah,

1424
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: First of all, love Star another great guy obviously and

1425
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: did a great job here is that run stuffer. But

1426
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: they feel like in Poe that it is an upgrade.

1427
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 1: And you know, here's why is that he's a huge

1428
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: guy first of all, maybe one of the biggest Panthers ever,

1429
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: but somehow is athletic too, So you do more than

1430
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: just take up maybe two blockers. You can actually get

1431
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: at the quarterback a little bit more than Starwood. So

1432
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: that combination in the middle of KK Short and Don

1433
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: Terry Poe in principle should just be phenomenal, which is

1434
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: only going to free up those edge rushers like Mario

1435
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: Idison and also the eleven sex last year to do

1436
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: even more so I think they do Viewpo is a

1437
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: little bit of an upgrade there and turned out got

1438
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: him for less money than starts getting from Buffalo, so

1439
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: even on the budget, it was a good move for them.

1440
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about Yeah, I've covered you guys

1441
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: in the booth for CBS, and I've one of the

1442
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: guys that I'm marvel at every time you guys play

1443
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: that he's on the field as Luke Keekley. He continues

1444
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: to Oh wow, now he's had he had some concussion

1445
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: issues in the last year or two. What's his prognosis, Like,

1446
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: what's and is? I mean, the guy is one of

1447
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: the most cerebral and well prepared players on either side

1448
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: of the football I've ever encountered. He is, I mean,

1449
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: and one of the nicest guys you'd meet any setting,

1450
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: let alone football. Steven one hundred and thirty four tackles

1451
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: led the team last year, so basically a relatively healthy

1452
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: year after some earlier concussion issues the previous years and

1453
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: a shoulder surgery also this offseason. But he's had no

1454
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: trouble coming back from that. Six takeaways last year, three picks,

1455
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: three fumble recoveries. In his mind, the only thing you'd

1456
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: like to improve upon. He says that every year's quarterback sacks,

1457
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: he usually gets about two a year. He'd like to

1458
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: get more and get at the quarterback a little more often.

1459
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: But other than that, I mean, he clearly is one

1460
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: of the best middle linebackers in the game. He's in

1461
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: anybody's top caree, I would think. And the Carolina defense

1462
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: it's become a revolving door at the coordinator spot, right, Jim.

1463
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: And that's obviously the launching pad for a head coaching success. Right.

1464
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: If you run the Carolina defense one year, you're a

1465
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: head coach somewhere. The following Ron Rivera's coaching tree is

1466
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: sprouting really quickly, you guys know. Mcdermot's been a terrific

1467
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: one for you guys quickly. And then Steve Wilkes leaving

1468
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: to become the Arizona Cardinal's head coaches passed off season

1469
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: and now is Eric Washington's attorney. Has been a staff

1470
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: for a number of years as defensive line coach, and

1471
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: people prior to this promotion felt like he could have

1472
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: head coaching pedigree in him too, and guys like Julius

1473
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: Peppers really respect him and it really excited about the

1474
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: fact that he's got elevated to coordinator. Was one of

1475
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: the things that everybody on that defensive line in particular

1476
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: we're excited about, but the defense as a whole. So yeah,

1477
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: he seems to be right in that mode of being

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01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: able to continue with annually to become a top ten

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Speaker 1: Panthers defense, and no reason to believe it'll be any

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Speaker 1: different this year. All right, Jim, here comes my last question.

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Speaker 1: We're asking Bills fans who are they watching most closely

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01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: tomorrow night on the Buffalo roster? Who are you going

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01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on? Maybe aside from the obvious guys,

1484
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: who are you most interested in keeping an eye on

1485
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: one or two players on Carolina's roster? You know it's

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01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: this time of year about guys. You know you pretty

1487
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: much know most of the starters. I mean, out of

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Speaker 1: the twenty two you said our team, anyway, you probably

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01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: know nineteen of them. I would be interested to see

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01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: somebody like a local kid here for us in Charlotte.

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01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,479
Speaker 1: Won't mean as much to you, but Elijah Hood played

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01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: at North Carolina. He's a Charlotte Catholic product. Here he's

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Speaker 1: battling for a roster spot. He was on the Raiders

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01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: practice squad as a rookie you last year, but he

1495
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: was terrific at North Carolina in college. I'd be interested

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: to see if he can kind of get a leg

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01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: up on one of those pasts, one of those finals,

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01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: I should say, running back spots, defensive secondaries I mentioned earlier,

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01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: We got a couple of spots open. You can Dante

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01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: Jackson push keep on Seymour who is here last year

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01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: for that starting spot. Now that Russ Cockwell is out

1502
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: for the year, we'll see that Denor Searcy broad In

1503
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: at free safety probably will be the starter there to

1504
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: begin the year. But again, could Rashaan Golden maybe push

1505
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: him for that spot. So just a couple of guys

1506
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: to keep in an eye out for if you're watching

1507
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: our game. Spart, I'm a big Kevon Seymour fan. I

1508
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: love that kid. I wish him well. He's he's a

1509
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: good kid, right Yeah. That you know, trade with Kayln

1510
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: Clay is back and forth. That Kaylin's a great guy

1511
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: obviously too, and uh it's just been uh, Keevan's kind

1512
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: of guy. You know, you root for a guy like that.

1513
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: And now he worked really hard this offseason, you know,

1514
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: bought people just assume because they drafted in the second

1515
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: round Dante Jackson at LSU. But Keevan Seymour's worked hard.

1516
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: He's look good at camp so far. Great. Hey, Jim,

1517
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: have a safe trip. We'll see up here tomorrow night.

1518
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: Thank you very much spending some time with us today,

1519
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: Ali guys, Thank you. Jim Zoki, Carolina Panthers Radio Network.

1520
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: He's got to play by play tomorrow night when the

1521
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: Bill's play Carolina at seven o'clock. Jim was also sports

1522
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 1: director at w BT Radio in Charlotte. I like the Panthers.

1523
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: You know, there's good people around the Panthers, and and

1524
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: uh's face it, They've sent a ton of people up here,

1525
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 1: and we have liked all those guys. So if there's

1526
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: more like them down there, yeah, it's it's a it's

1527
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: a hard team to dislike when they've got a bunch

1528
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 1: of good people in the building. It's a good It

1529
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: has been a good team recently too. I was looking

1530
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: over these notes yesterday. Ron Rivera was on a hot

1531
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: seat early on in his coaching tree, and then once

1532
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: they got a quarterback and Cam Newton, thing has changed.

1533
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: Here's Rivera. Seven seasons head coach, super Bowl appearance, NFC Championship,

1534
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,919
Speaker 1: three division titles. The Panthers have gone to the playoffs

1535
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: in four of the last five seasons, which is tied

1536
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: for the leading the NFC over that span. He's a

1537
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: two time Associated Press NFL Coach of the Year. He's

1538
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: got it going on no matter what. You know, people

1539
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: used to talk about Riverboat Ryn and has chances maybe

1540
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: he does. But beyond that, he's a good quality coach.

1541
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 1: He's got a really good staff and he's not afraid

1542
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: to change up that staff if necessary. Given especially if

1543
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: you look at the offensive coordinator job, well, I think

1544
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: he should get some credit for bringing not only bringing

1545
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: quality guys onto his staff, but also cultivating them. Yea.

1546
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: You know, their their new defensive coordinator is a guy

1547
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: that's been there for a while and he's you know,

1548
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: Eric Washington is the next heir apparent, and he's cultivated

1549
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,839
Speaker 1: and brought him up from within the their own organization.

1550
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: Plus giving them a chance to prepare themselves to be

1551
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: a head coach. It's a big, long process, There's no

1552
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 1: question about it. You gotta be a coordinator. You got

1553
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: to go through these processes. You got to go through

1554
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: a couple of years of interviews. It looks like before

1555
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: you actually get tapped on the shoulder and hired, and

1556
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera has given a lot of guys on his

1557
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: staff the opportunity to prepare themselves to be head coaches. Yeah.

1558
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: They're interesting team, I think, and a good team. They

1559
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: have been for, as we said, play asks for the

1560
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: last five years. All right, Steve and I got a

1561
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: lot more ground to cover today, and we want you

1562
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: to join us. Phone lines open at eight oh three

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01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 1: five fifty or toll free one eight eight five fifty

1564
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 1: two five fifty. Maybe you'd like to take a crack

1565
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: at our Twitter question of the day, kind of the

1566
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 1: topic of the day, preseason game number one for the

1567
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills tomorrow, Right, you know that, Who are you

1568
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: looking at besides the quarterbacks? Give us one or two

1569
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: names that you're most interested in in tomorrow Knight's first

1570
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 1: preseason game. You're open at eight o three five fifty

1571
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: and outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two

1572
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: five fifty. And we'll check your tweets on that question too,

1573
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: we'll read them when we return. Come on back, We've

1574
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: got a lot more to go. One Bill's Live from

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01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to

1576
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: the show, John Murphy. You see Tasker in Orchard Park today.

1577
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: It's weird to come back here after doing what the

1578
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: last couple of shows? I guess just two shows this

1579
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: week in Rochester and a couple of shows coming up

1580
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: next week. But I feel unsettled, Like where am I see?

1581
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: What day is it? There's a game tomorrow? Why it's

1582
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: not a Sunday tomorrow, it's a Thursday tomorrow. I'll be ready.

1583
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: I'll be ready for the game. Don't worry about that,

1584
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: all right? The bills in Caroline, I hope you have

1585
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: some thoughts on that. Give us a call if you do.

1586
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: What are you looking for? What would you like to see?

1587
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: Lines open eight o three five fifty and toll free

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty to

1589
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: the phones. Jermaine from New Jersey. Where in New Jersey

1590
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: are you? Jermie? Hey, John, I'm in Norton, New Jersey. Right.

1591
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm good to talk to you and Steve today. UM,

1592
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: I had a question about the calib maca issue out

1593
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: in England. Do you think it would be best if

1594
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: Brandon being in the group listen to a choir and

1595
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: Khalid or a tree for Lorenzo, Alexander or Eve Shaq

1596
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: Lawson and a future take. Oh yeah, it'll take a

1597
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: big future to take a big future pick and it'll

1598
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: or two yeah, and I don't know that. Yeah. I mean,

1599
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing, there's no doubt after talking with Brandon, mean,

1600
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: we always we always kind of grill him about how

1601
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: they're doing things in the front office. There's no doubt

1602
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: that not only did Brandon being called, so did thirty

1603
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,560
Speaker 1: one other general managers. They all they're all on the

1604
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: phone with La, and LA has set the bar really high.

1605
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: I would imagine if and even if if they indeed

1606
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: want to trade him, and there's rumblings coming out that

1607
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: he might be they might trade Khalil macknet and they

1608
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: maybe they will, Maybe they're interested in doing that. Maybe

1609
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: they're shopping in big time. You know that all thirty

1610
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: one other general managers are interested in Khalil mack and

1611
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are one of them, and the package would

1612
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: have to be right. Now. Here's the interesting thing. If

1613
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: they can get Khalil mack in, they're gonna have money

1614
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: to pay him next year. They'll be able to pay him,

1615
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: not this year, but next year they'll be able to

1616
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: and the bills of you know you talk about getting

1617
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: into a spot where if they could get him in

1618
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: this year, Yeah, I mean that changes that changes things

1619
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: a lot. And you know the Bills are really interested

1620
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: in him. I actually I was thinking about this, Germaine.

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01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling. It's it's something that's been on our

1622
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: mind a little bit. Is would it be better for

1623
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: the Bills to make a trade for him or wait

1624
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: until next year when you know they can get him

1625
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: on the open market. Perhaps I don't know. I mean,

1626
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: you can't not going to get him on the open market.

1627
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: They'll franchise him or they'll hang on to him as

1628
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: long as they possibly can. But if you can get him,

1629
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: to let him go, you know. I mean he's just

1630
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: coming into his prime as a pass catcher. He's and

1631
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: he's got a Buffalo connection. He went to ub you know,

1632
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: he knows this city likes it. He said that publicly. Yeah,

1633
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean I see that. I see what people see.

1634
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: They think the connections there. And Khalil Mack wants to

1635
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: come back to Buffalo. Listen, Kali Mac wants to get paid,

1636
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: and I get it deserves him, he deserves it. The

1637
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: guy has knocked the league on its end upside down

1638
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: in his first couple of years as a pass rusher,

1639
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 1: and you know it's it's time for that time for that.

1640
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: I would love it. I don't know if it's likely.

1641
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: And again, the money now is a problem for the Bills,

1642
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: as you said, Steve, next year, the money would not

1643
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: be a problem, um. And he's worth it right going

1644
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: into the prime of his career. He's a premier pass rusher,

1645
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: first or second in the game you would think as

1646
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. It's troubling, not troubling. It's very interesting

1647
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: to me that John Gruden has not warmed up to

1648
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack or warmed up to what. I don't even

1649
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: know if it's a personal thing, but it's as if

1650
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 1: John Gruden can't appreciate how good Khalil Mack is and

1651
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: what he can do for him. I don't get that,

1652
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: and I don't I'm not a I'm not a I'm

1653
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: not a hater or not a LA hater or Oakland

1654
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: Raider hater. I'm not a John Gruden hater. I just

1655
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna work out there. I don't at

1656
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: all don't. I don't think Gruden's gonna work out there.

1657
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: I just have doubts about it. I know he's a name,

1658
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: he's a he's a great football coach. He's won a

1659
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl as a head coach, But you look back

1660
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: at the last three or four years of his time

1661
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay after he'd won the Super Bowl, I

1662
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: don't think he has His strength is not in roster

1663
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: management and roster development. That's not his strength. And I

1664
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: think if they if the Raiders give him all of

1665
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: that and they're letting him call the shots on Khalil Mack,

1666
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: I think they're headed down the road that there is

1667
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: going to be a detriment to their future. Maybe in

1668
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: the here and now. John Gruden is going to be

1669
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: a pretty good coach and stuff, but his history is

1670
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: a roster development guys, I don't think is good. And

1671
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: I this Khalil Mack is a great indicator of that.

1672
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: How can you come in him brand new head coach

1673
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: and alienature best player, which he has done with his

1674
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 1: words in the media, he said, Hey, this defense wasn't

1675
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,560
Speaker 1: that good with Khalil Mack last year? Why do we

1676
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: want to pay him all that kind of money? That

1677
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: to me, Ellie, and that's a really good player and

1678
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: a great guy. I mean, Khalil Mack is a good,

1679
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,839
Speaker 1: good kid, yep. Um. I just think this speaks badly

1680
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: about the direction that the Raiders are headed with their

1681
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: roster and um and you know, let alone with the

1682
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: players that are on that roster, Raiders have camp issues

1683
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: now like the Bills, they'll be have some relief next year.

1684
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they're kind of their own worst enemies in

1685
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: that regard. They had to obviously extend a car Derek Carr,

1686
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 1: but they gave out big deals to some offensive lineman

1687
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: Collecchiosemile a year ago right uh ten and a half

1688
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: million dollar cap number him, Breno Jacomini, Rodney Hudson. They

1689
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 1: were they were spending money crazily on offensive lineman a

1690
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: year or so going. And that's why they many people

1691
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: think they just don't have the money to pay Khalil Macket.

1692
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with what Gruden thinks that they

1693
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 1: just don't have the money. Um. And they're not making

1694
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, there's not a They're leaving Oakland in a

1695
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: couple of years. There's not a whole lot of money

1696
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: left in the in the bank there for him, you

1697
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they don't they get money everybody else.

1698
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 1: They share the money, but it's a camp issue and

1699
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: maybe a cash a camp issue and maybe a cash

1700
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: on hand issue for the Raiders as well. Well, yeah,

1701
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 1: but you gotta just tell him that you can't. You can't,

1702
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: You shouldn't. You couldn't. Yeah, you can't. Just you can't say, hey,

1703
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: we'd be better off without you, or you're not helping

1704
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: enough to make us good enough to pay you. That's

1705
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 1: the wrong message to send in my opinion. But plus,

1706
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: you got ninety other guys sitting in your locker room

1707
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: listening to you talk about the best player on their

1708
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: team that way, What are their chances of getting paid?

1709
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: Who's how much does that ingratiate you to your rock Donald?

1710
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: Who is likelier to sit out this year? Either one

1711
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: of them gonna sit out and I play at all?

1712
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: Why is it? Khalil Mack? Yeah? Why? Aaron Donald's been

1713
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: that what been down this road before? Yeah, and he can't.

1714
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: He'll Aaron Donald come in and he'll play. And I

1715
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. That's a good question. If yeah,

1716
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: if either one of them sitting out is a huge

1717
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: loss for their teams. I mean, you need those guys.

1718
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: If you're the Raiders in the rams as far as

1719
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: mac for the bills or anybody else. Really, you know,

1720
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: you get conflicting reports. Some I've read reports over the

1721
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: last few days. It says the Raiders are open for

1722
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: business on Khalil Mack and others say no, the Raiders

1723
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: are gonna, you know, be stubborn force him to come back.

1724
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: I mean they hold cards now with him under contract,

1725
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: and he's losing money. Ever, he got one year left

1726
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: on his deal. Correct this year and next year or

1727
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: this year, this year, this year's his last yamp. Then

1728
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: they can take him. I'm telling you right now you

1729
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 1: if I was the Raiders, I'd put him out there

1730
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: and get the highest bid for him, because that guy

1731
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: is a difference maker. Now there's no way you trade

1732
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: him in the AFC West, So those guys are off

1733
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: the table. NFC is probably the place you'd rather send

1734
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: him to out of conference. But worst comes to worst,

1735
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: you send him across the country someplace. And it's been

1736
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: mine and I know I'm a little bit naive about this,

1737
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: and I have his rose colored glasses. If a guy

1738
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play for you, you gotta do what

1739
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: you can to he wants to play for the money,

1740
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:12,560
Speaker 1: for the right money, maybe, but after I'd like to

1741
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: know if that's changed because of what's been said. Yeah,

1742
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, because money has a way of

1743
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: making a lot of stuff like that go away. If

1744
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: they came up with the money he wants, it's not

1745
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: gonna completely go away. You come into the locker room

1746
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: and the coach said that about you, you're gonna look

1747
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: at him sideway. You'll play hard for him, but you're

1748
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: gonna play hard for him to prove him wrong. And

1749
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: it's not like you're gonna be happy, go lucky, And

1750
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: that's that's not good. You know, you want your guys

1751
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 1: in there for the right reasons. They may play hard

1752
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: for the wrong reasons, but you want them playing good

1753
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: for the right reasons because when they're playing good for

1754
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: the right reasons, they're making other guys play good. You know,

1755
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: when he's playing When this guy's playing good, but he's angry.

1756
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: He's angry every time he's not on the field. He's

1757
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: angry every time he goes in the locker room. He's

1758
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: angry every time he goes in the meeting rooms and

1759
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: watching film with his teammates. He's angry when he's talking

1760
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: to the media. He's angry every time he's not. But

1761
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: when he's happy and when he's motivated playing, he's helping everybody.

1762
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: When he's in the meetings, he's helping when he when

1763
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 1: he's in the locker room, he's helping other guys when

1764
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: they're on the practice field. That's a huge difference. That's

1765
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,919
Speaker 1: a huge difference. He may be playing hard in both respects,

1766
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: in both scenarios, but one is a huge plus and

1767
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: the other is a huge minus. And that's that's the

1768
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: truth of it. Yep, that's the truth of it. Good question.

1769
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 1: Let's take your call from Ivan in Buffalo. Ivan, welcome

1770
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: to the show. You're on the air. Hey guys, how

1771
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: are you doing today? Good? Okay, So to ask you

1772
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: a question I would like to see Josh Ellen, uh,

1773
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: you know, give most of the most of the start

1774
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: in tomorrow's game. Reason being is just that, you know,

1775
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: I think at this point, since mccaron nor Peterman had

1776
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: distinguished themselves yet or separate themselves. You know, if we

1777
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: got three quarterbacks, then we really got none. And at

1778
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: this point, you know, I just think that the Bill

1779
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: should just go ahead and decide to h to allow

1780
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to go ahead and start, let him get

1781
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: his lumps early in the preseason games, and then by

1782
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: a regular season he should be ready. Is at this point,

1783
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: I think we just you know, really just you know,

1784
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: wasting a lot of time and a lot of reps

1785
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: just trying to find someone. We drafted this guy high,

1786
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: we traded up for him, and it only makes sense

1787
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: to go ahead and just let him play at this point.

1788
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: One has I mean mainly after tomorrow's game, if you know,

1789
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: if they still undecided it, and I think they should

1790
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: just really just go with the rookie. But you know,

1791
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be focused on a really watching Josh Allen

1792
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, but that they just go ahead and

1793
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: just decide to just go ahead and throw him in there.

1794
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: That was kind of the point I was trying to

1795
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: make yesterday. Yeah, I hate to say it, I have him,

1796
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: but you're twenty four hours late with that question. That

1797
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,560
Speaker 1: was our question yesterday. Today is everybody but the quarterbacks.

1798
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, I get it. You know, you want to

1799
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: see him and some people are like that Ian right,

1800
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: and you I was exaggerating yesterday. Play play Josh Challen

1801
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,799
Speaker 1: all four quarters of all four games. Get him started,

1802
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, and get him, get him acclimated. But I

1803
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: was exaggerating to say, listen, if he's gonna be the guy,

1804
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: get him in. But uh, Ivan's right, and people want

1805
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: to see him. And if if the decision is inevitable,

1806
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 1: which we all kind of think it is, at some

1807
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: point he's going to be the starter, maybe it's a

1808
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: training camp two thousand nineteen, not two training camp two

1809
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. If he is subsequently going to be

1810
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: the starter at some point, let's get started on that

1811
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: right now. And that's that's that's a sentiment. Why did

1812
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: you disagree with me about that yesterday? You just you

1813
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: just articulated exactly what my point was yesterday. Yesterday I

1814
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: was no good. Today you're agreeing with me. Well, here's

1815
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: the thing you're not. You're not saying start him. You're

1816
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: saying giving him two series like a starter, and then

1817
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: pull him out and sit him on a bench. And

1818
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: I said start him tomorrow night. If you're gonna say

1819
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 1: start him tomorrow night, what are you gonna give him

1820
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: one quarter? Give the next guy the next quarter, the

1821
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: first half? Why a half? Give him the came somebody else?

1822
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: Play because there's ninety guys on the roster. If he's

1823
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: to start, why give some Why can't we Why why

1824
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: go halfway with it? You gotta go if you're gonna

1825
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: make him the starter, I want. I want to see

1826
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: him get work with and against the ones. I want

1827
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: to see him get a taste of NFL action, and

1828
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: I want to see him not get hurt. I don't

1829
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: play to see him get as developed as he can

1830
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: possibly get in four full games. He's got a lot

1831
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: to learn. Yeah, not two games, which is you're telling

1832
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: me half of first half of four straight games? Right? Yeah,

1833
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not talking about games two, three,

1834
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: and four. I'm talking about game one tomorrow night. That's

1835
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: all I'm thinking about playing four quarters? Then what are you?

1836
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: What are you holding back for? It's not holding back.

1837
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: I want to start him. I want to start tomorrow night,

1838
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: play him a half of games, holding back play him.

1839
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: Mark is on the line with us, Mark, go ahead,

1840
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: you're on the air of how you just brush off

1841
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: my last comment? The driver's seat ahead my head? Mark,

1842
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing good? Today? Had me feeling nostalgic.

1843
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about twenty fourteen when I was sitting here

1844
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: with my wife and I said that Whaley had just

1845
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 1: moved up and he's gonna draft Mac. And you don't

1846
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: know how disappointed I was they didn't draft him. Also,

1847
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: i'd like your opinion on Um, Wyatt Teller, tell you

1848
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: what you think. How is he doing? Kenny starts, Oh,

1849
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: hang off, thank you, Okay, go ahead, Well he's every book. Listen,

1850
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: everybody's disappointed they didn't draft Kalio Mack. Um. Every team

1851
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking on talking to everybody in Buffalo, every every

1852
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 1: team is disappointed they didn't draft Khalil Mack, no question

1853
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: about it. The guy's a phenomenon. And Wyatt Teller, that's

1854
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: a good question that he's he's in a battle for

1855
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: a roster spot. Um, I don't know that he's in

1856
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: the mix right now to be a starter, because you've

1857
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: got three or four guys who are incumbent interior offensive

1858
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: lineman who have started games in the NFL, Ryan Groy,

1859
01:24:53,400 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: Brent Russell, Bodine, John Miller, and Vladd Costs. There's four

1860
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: names right there that are all four ahead of Wyatt

1861
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: Teller on the you know, inexperience and on the depth chart.

1862
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: So Watt Teller's got a lot to prove, and we'll

1863
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 1: see if he can do that over the course of

1864
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: these next three games. But also, yeah, Khalil Mack, I

1865
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: think is as high on the radar here in Buffalo

1866
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: as he is. It's probably higher here in Buffalo than

1867
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 1: he has anywhere else in the NFL because he played

1868
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: here at UB and people know him and they he

1869
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: slipped through their fingers three years ago or four years

1870
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: ago as a top pick. Here's a call from Clarence

1871
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: and Buffalo. Clarence, go ahead, welcome to the show. Thank you, John,

1872
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 1: How are you doing today? Great? And Steve Hi Hi,

1873
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: I just you just spoken in a moment ago about

1874
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: one of the players that I was wondering about because

1875
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard much about him in Wyatt Teller. I

1876
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: was wondering how he was progressing with the offensive line,

1877
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: because you know, I know the sile of things and

1878
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: you guys to the quarterbacks of being being seen. I

1879
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 1: mean said, but just still Flo has an offensive line together.

1880
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: That's the one I'm looking for. Teenage. Yeah, I confess

1881
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about Steve. I don't have a

1882
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: lot of good, strong impressions about Wyatt Teller's first few

1883
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: weeks of training camp because mostly because he's a guard,

1884
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, and I spent I spent some time down

1885
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: there watching the one on one drills the other day yesterday,

1886
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: I guess it was Monday, let's no, yeah, two days ago.

1887
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 1: And one of the impressions I got a why a

1888
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: Teller was that there's a reason why he was what

1889
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 1: a fifth rounder, short arms, not extremely not a whole

1890
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: lot of stature there. And it would require, I think

1891
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Speaker 1: something special for Wyatt Teller in this camp at this

1892
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: time to jump up and be a starter. I'm not

1893
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: ruling it out, but I haven't seen any element of

1894
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, specialty from why I Teller did to make

1895
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: me think that he could do that. But we'll see.

1896
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: It's it's early two weeks into camp. He does have

1897
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: some NFL qualities. One, he is a big body. He

1898
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: is thick from the top all the way down to

1899
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: the floor, and he's really really strong. But you know,

1900
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: like Murph said, one of the he does have short arms.

1901
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: He does have that going from but that's what that's

1902
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, that's a guard. That's why he's not a tackle.

1903
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: If he had long arms, he'd be a tackle, not

1904
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: a guard, but he has got all the physical capabilities

1905
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 1: of being extremely good player in the NFL. But like

1906
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 1: I said, they've got some guys in there that got

1907
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: some experience and some started has started some games in

1908
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: the NFL, and he's kind of got to hang in

1909
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: there and prove himself in these games. And I think

1910
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: one since I got today when we were speaking to

1911
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott in our production meeting, these games are gonna

1912
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Speaker 1: count for a lot. Yeah, they're gonna count for a lot.

1913
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: They want to see these guys in live action NFL

1914
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: game when when they're not, there's no whistle coming until

1915
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: it's supposed to come, and the guy's getting tackled to

1916
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: the ground and there's nobody's gonna help you, and there's

1917
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there's these games are

1918
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna count for a lot, and Wyatt Teller is going

1919
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 1: to have his chance to prove he can do it.

1920
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: Albeit he's you know against the second or third NFL

1921
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Speaker 1: tier players. Uh, that's what he's up against. It's a

1922
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: there's camps not that long, and there's only four games

1923
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: to do it in and he's gonna have to do

1924
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Speaker 1: it in those games. We're gonna take a break. We're

1925
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Speaker 1: back with more and One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida

1926
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Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1927
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our One Bill's

1928
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: Live Studio, one Buffalo Studio right next door to New

1929
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Speaker 1: air of Field, that place, New air of State and

1930
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 1: New air Field next door. And that'll be rocking tomorrow night.

1931
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: Well as much as a first preseason game gets rocking,

1932
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 1: I gonna be fun. I don't oversell it, but I

1933
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: love I love the games. I like the preseason games. Hey, somebody,

1934
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: we were at a meeting today. We almost production meeting.

1935
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: We're almost late. We're almost late for the show because

1936
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: we had to go to a production meeting, Steve and

1937
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 1: I and a couple of other folks with the head coach,

1938
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. Unc Jay tweets in could you explain what

1939
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 1: a production meeting is and what the coach has to

1940
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: do with it? Curious, Steve, You've been in hundreds of them.

1941
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: I guess I have to explain it to us. Well,

1942
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: what happens is because we are who we are. Either

1943
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: you're a network broadcaster or your local broadcaster. For us,

1944
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: it's it's us because we're in house here the head coach.

1945
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: We get access where like say, for instance, the TV

1946
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 1: stations and the Buffalo News and all the other outlets

1947
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: they don't we get to go in because we're doing

1948
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: the broadcast of the game. We'll sit down with a

1949
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: head coach and he'll give us lineups, background thought processes, schedules.

1950
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: He'll give us information that's not available to the general public,

1951
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 1: and it helps us prepare graphics and stuff for the broadcast.

1952
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: It gives us background information for the broadcast, and it's

1953
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's a typically last half an hour, which

1954
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: is what it did today, and are a little more.

1955
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: And it just we get access and he'll tell us

1956
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: some things that aren't public knowledge at the point at

1957
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: that point and give it to us. So when it

1958
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: does happen, like right before game time or add game time,

1959
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: we're ready for it with graphics and things on the screen,

1960
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 1: and it makes the broadcast run smoother and we don't

1961
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: get cut off guard. And that's basically it. They tell

1962
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 1: you stuff that is only usable on the game. That's

1963
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: that's right, we can only use it on the game.

1964
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: Plus you know, they'll tell us things that we can

1965
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 1: expect during the game, player rotations at certain positions and

1966
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So they give us some of

1967
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 1: that stuff, and I mean sometimes they don't, you know.

1968
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: And you know, with a ninety man roster as we

1969
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 1: have in the preseason game, it helps a lot, like

1970
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: who's gonna handle return work, you know, to know that

1971
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 1: going into mon night's game is huge, right, And of

1972
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: course we were asking him, you know, quarterbacks and all

1973
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 1: their thought probably his listening this, we'll save that for

1974
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: game time and all that. So you know, some of

1975
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: that stuff, we get some of what we don't um

1976
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: and and it changes from coach to coach. Some gut

1977
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: coaches are comfortable telling you stuff and some aren't. And

1978
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: sometimes you can even get a guy to tell you

1979
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: something he says but don't say that until until after

1980
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: the officials meeting ninety minutes before the game, that kind

1981
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah. Uh, some coaches are very free with that.

1982
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 1: You know, they'll say, listen, we're gonna we're gonna hold

1983
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: this guy out, this guy's gonna be in, but don't

1984
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: say anything until after we sent our roster at ninety

1985
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,719
Speaker 1: minutes before game. Good question, Thank you hey, when we returned.

1986
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 1: Brian Urlacher, newly minted Pro Football Hall of Fame, are

1987
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:11,560
Speaker 1: going to join us live on the phone line, So

1988
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 1: come on back for that. Steve and I back One

1989
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,839
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo

1990
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 1: Bill's reading Hello Bills Radio Network Stories update. The update

1991
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: from One Bill Drive. The Buffalo Bill's returning here this evening.

1992
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: They're getting set to play their first preseason game tomorrow night,

1993
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: the preseason opener the Carolina Panthers in the Bills tomorrow night,

1994
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: seven o'clock. Meeting time for the Bills this morning at

1995
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College in Rochester. They'll play the game

1996
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, do a little post game walkthrough practice here

1997
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: late Friday afternoon, and then the Bills return to Fisher

1998
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 1: on Sunday for the final week of training camp. Next Sunday,

1999
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: Monday and two day at Saint John Fisher College, the

2000
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: Bills in Carolina seven o'clock tomorrow and at Newer You

2001
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: can catch the game on our flagship radio Stationeer in Buffalo,

2002
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 1: WGR Sports Radio five fifty. Around the NFL Chargers defensive

2003
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 1: end Joey Bosa suffered a left foot injury during practice yesterday.

2004
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: He is not expected to miss much practice time. Bosa

2005
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 1: led the Chargers in sacks last season twelve and a

2006
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: half and went to the Pro Bowl in the twenty

2007
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: seventeen season. Brown's rookie wide receiver Antonio Callaway was cited

2008
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 1: for marijuana possession and driving with a suspended license on Sunday.

2009
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 1: The Browns say they are aware of the citation. They're

2010
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 1: in the process of gathering more information. Callaway expected to

2011
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: appear in court tomorrow. In Major League Baseball, Rangers pitcher

2012
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: Bartolo Cologne made history last night. He earned his two

2013
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: hundred and forty sixth career victory. That's the most wins

2014
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: all time by a Latin American born pitcher. He did

2015
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: it and an eleven of four win over Seattle his

2016
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: sixth try at the milestone, and he moves past Nicaragua's

2017
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: Dennis Martinez. Bartolo Cologne two hundred forty six career victories

2018
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: and on the seven note. Hockey starstanmkeita passed away yesterday

2019
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 1: at the age of seventy eight. The former Chicago Blackhawks icon.

2020
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: Mckita played his entire twenty two season NHO career with

2021
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Chicago from nineteen fifty nine through nineteen eighty his number

2022
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,480
Speaker 1: twenty one, the first to be retired by the Blackhawks.

2023
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: He won the Stanley Cup in nineteen sixty one. Makita

2024
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 1: was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in nineteen

2025
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: eighty three. Stan Mikita passed away yesterday at the age

2026
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 1: of seventy eight. I may be one of the most

2027
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: competitive people you'll ever know. I want to win every snap,

2028
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: every game, even though it's not possible. But I didn't

2029
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 1: just compete to be the other person. I competed to

2030
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,560
Speaker 1: be my best. It wasn't merely about the conquest. It

2031
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: was about the challenge every moment, every practice, every game, everywhere.

2032
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 1: I just love competing competitions in my DNA. Bryan Herlocker

2033
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 1: last Saturday night at the Pro Football Hall of Fame

2034
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 1: in Canton, Ohio a tremendous speech, and we are honored

2035
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: to be joined down the show right now by Pro

2036
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Famer Brian or like O'Brian is, John

2037
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. Thank you very

2038
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: much for spending a few minutes with us here today. Yeah,

2039
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. Guys, appreciate it. You know,

2040
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: one thing in your speech and I really liked was

2041
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,600
Speaker 1: when you said you wanted to be remembered as a

2042
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,879
Speaker 1: good teammate. What a great thought, What a great approach

2043
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: to the game. How did that sort of inform your

2044
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: whole career, Brian? That desire to be known as a

2045
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 1: good teammate. I think I started in high school. Honestly,

2046
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, all my best friends I played with in

2047
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 1: high school. Same where in college I became really good

2048
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: friends with all the guys hall of guys, most of

2049
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: the guys on my team, and we're still friends today

2050
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 1: and just carried over to the NFL. It's not in

2051
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,839
Speaker 1: the NFL, it's not hard because you know, in Chicago,

2052
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: I played with a bunch of guys for a long time.

2053
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 1: There was a few guys there that I played for

2054
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 1: eight to ten years. Was so it was easy to

2055
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 1: become really close with them, and even if they weren't

2056
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: my close friends. I wanted to do good teammates everybody.

2057
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 1: I think that was just that was my mindset. You know.

2058
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: I felt like if we had a good locker room,

2059
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: we were going to be successful on the field. And

2060
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: I didn't always work out that way, but I felt

2061
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: it would help a little bit. One of the things

2062
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about is is such a

2063
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 1: big week for you guys going into Canton last week?

2064
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: Well when you got there a can First of all,

2065
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 1: what day did you arrive last week? And also what

2066
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 1: was the most pleasant surprise of your entire experience there

2067
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: during your induction week. We got there on Wednesday night.

2068
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: My kids have school Wednesday, so we left after school

2069
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. We got there probably ten times thirty on

2070
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. The most pleasant thing just how how welcoming

2071
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 1: the current Hall of Famers were, if that makes sense.

2072
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: The guys who are already in, they're just they were

2073
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 1: so happy and so nice to all of us, like,

2074
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, welcome to the club. We're happy to just

2075
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: every every one of those guys is very welcome me

2076
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: because they've been through the process as well. They know

2077
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: about the big nerves that we were having, so they

2078
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 1: were all very welcoming and just the support they gave

2079
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: us is overwhelming. Hey, Brian Steve, my partner here has

2080
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 1: several former Bills teammate too, are now Hall of Famers.

2081
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: And the one thing, you know, you talk to those

2082
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: guys that I get from it is that it really

2083
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 1: does change life, it seems when you become a Hall

2084
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 1: of Famer. Right, I know it's only a few days old,

2085
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 1: but can you see that happening to you? Do you

2086
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 1: feel like that might happen. I'm still still relieved it's

2087
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: all over. You know. It's like right when I sat down,

2088
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: as you can tell, my voice is still gone. As

2089
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 1: right when I sat down after my speech, it was

2090
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: like immediate release that said that part was over. But

2091
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: stressing about it for you know, six months getting me

2092
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: speech in there and trying not to screw it up

2093
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: too batter or leaving everybody out. But I don't feel

2094
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 1: in different, honestly. You know, I'm still bad to my kids.

2095
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm still friends to my buddy, So I don't really

2096
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 1: feel any different right now. Well, you went into the

2097
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame at one of the iconic positions in

2098
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. Forget about quarterbacks. You're the middle linebacker for

2099
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. You followed guys like Mike Singletary, like

2100
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Speaker 1: like Dick Buckus, who's the all time iconic guy. And

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01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 1: now you sit there and I take it. I know

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Speaker 1: you spend a little time in Chicago and live elsewhere

2103
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: as well. But you know, now you're looking at a

2104
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: guy like Roquan Smith who's kind of having a bumpy

2105
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: start to his career. What you need advice for these

2106
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: young guys coming in. What's your thoughts on that? Yeah,

2107
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 1: it's freshening because you know they changed the rules so

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01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be holdouts, right. I think I thought that

2109
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 1: was the main reason they changed off of the RIGI contracts,

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01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 1: so we hold out and never getting a ton of

2111
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: sign most money, which they did. They change that now

2112
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 1: can go to the vets. But you know it's a

2113
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 1: business decision. You know, that's the way it goes. I

2114
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: think behind all these decisions that are made, it is

2115
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: a business. And when he gets in camp, I'm sure

2116
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: he'll if you get to the training camp usher, we'll

2117
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,560
Speaker 1: be there or not by the time it's over. She

2118
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: hopefully get caught up quick. You know. I just so

2119
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,560
Speaker 1: it's only hurting him though. It sinks because I'm not

2120
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 1: sure kind of advice he's getting in how that works.

2121
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: You know, when I was a real kat, I told

2122
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: my agent, I said, Steef, I want to be in

2123
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 1: training camp. I you know, I want to miss out

2124
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: on training camp. I want to be there. I want

2125
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: to the one on miss one day, So get it

2126
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,640
Speaker 1: done early. Last take less. I'll take less, but you

2127
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 1: get me into training camp. Right on the subway fresh

2128
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 1: take high line with Football Hall of Famer Brian They're like,

2129
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 1: I want to talk about your rookie career for a second, Brian.

2130
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: Dick Duron was the coach of the Bears when you

2131
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: got there in two thousand. You started your first regular

2132
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 1: season game, and then you were benched right after that

2133
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 1: the very next week. What happened there? And how did

2134
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 1: you feel about the way that started for yourself? You know,

2135
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 1: I didn't start a regular season. I started in the

2136
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 1: preseason at Sam and I sunk. I'm not going There's

2137
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. You know, I had such bad technique.

2138
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: I've never played in the box the store like, yeah,

2139
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: I was. I was a space player and you put

2140
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: me over tight end. I just have to kind of

2141
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 1: hoop around him and get my hands on him. It

2142
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 1: just wasn't what I was used to doing. So I

2143
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 1: justifiably that they benched me. Put Rosie in there. Rosie

2144
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: has a good job. And then I think week two

2145
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: was when Barrymentor got hurt against Tampa Bay and coach

2146
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 1: Voshers get in there at mina. God, I haven't played Michael.

2147
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna back up stay there was well was just

2148
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 1: running of football and then I started every game after that.

2149
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Wowy yeah, talk a little bit about these days you've

2150
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: got um. We've got a young guy here in Buffalo

2151
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 1: who is in camp, Tremaine Edmonds. Oh yeah, right, so

2152
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 1: and talk about your thought. I'm this guy. I mean,

2153
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 1: they he's got the radio, he's nineteen when they dry

2154
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: like him. I like him, Steve. He's got a lot

2155
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: of talent, you know. And as I talked to Bob

2156
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: about him as well, Coach Babbage, he's very high on

2157
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: him as well. He says his football, I Q was

2158
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 1: way up there. Athletically, there's nothing he can't do, you know.

2159
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 1: It's what he's six four sixty five two thirty five,

2160
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 1: runs as fas as he needs to can jump. I mean,

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01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 1: but the thing you went about the young guy, that

2162
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: just the mental part of the game. And from what

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01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 1: I hear from Bob, and I don't want to get

2164
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: Bob in trouble, but he says his kids smart and

2165
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 1: he gets it, you know, not make a lot of

2166
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 1: mental errors in training camp, which is great and just

2167
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: a good kid overall. I mean, I was very happy

2168
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: to hear that about Bob. Just raised about the kids.

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Speaker 1: They're talking about Bob. That's Bob Babbage. Who's the Bills

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01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: linebackers coach. Your presenter last weekend at Canton, Ohio talking

2171
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: about Coach Babbage in the role he played in your

2172
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 1: successful career. If you would brand man, I love Flames

2173
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 1: for that. He's more like my brother. I mean, he

2174
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: used to fiss me off every day. He could get

2175
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 1: under my skin like nobody else. We would go at

2176
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: it like brother. But we were so competitive and I

2177
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 1: wanted to be better. He wanted to make me better.

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01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: He challenged me every single day, you know, whether it

2179
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Speaker 1: was in meetings, walk throughs, practice. I mean I had

2180
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: to be on my toes all the time with Coach

2181
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 1: because he was always challenging me. And that's why I

2182
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 1: appreciate it. You know, I didn't he didn't let me

2183
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 1: make his spegnant. He was always challenging me to get better,

2184
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: and not just me, but Lands and other backers as well.

2185
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: We appreciated that. One of the other things that the

2186
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: guys that have crossed paths with you and your career

2187
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 1: early on you had we watched you a little bit,

2188
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: and I was actually interested in. The guy that coached

2189
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: you a little later and helped you in your training

2190
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: is Rusty Jones, who was a good friend of Murph

2191
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 1: and I, I mean I Rusty was my coach in

2192
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo for a lot of years. Came to Chicago. Talk

2193
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: about the effect he had, some of the things that

2194
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 1: he affected you in your career and why that was.

2195
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 1: I love Russi Joe Rustiers. Have I play you last

2196
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 1: week too at the Hall of Fame And he drove

2197
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 1: down for one night and drove back here. But you

2198
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: know when he got there, I was just coming off

2199
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 1: a hand stand tree and I've never been hurt. I'd

2200
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: never pulled a muscle, never been hurt in my career,

2201
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 1: so it was a little different for me. But he

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01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 1: changed my diet, He changed my mindset on eating, on stretching,

2203
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: just everything. Um, sleeping is everything. He changed the way

2204
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 1: I looked at you know, football, that was my career,

2205
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 1: so I need to take care of my body. I

2206
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 1: understood that, and he made me. He just gave me

2207
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 1: ways to make myself better. And I bought into the

2208
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 1: right of lay. In the first year he was there

2209
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: defensive player of the Year, and I was a worried

2210
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year. And I just got

2211
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:34,680
Speaker 1: better every year. My body changed, and I just trusted him.

2212
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,640
Speaker 1: And for good reason. You know, he was with the

2213
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 1: Bill for twenty twenty one years there. Yeah, so he

2214
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. So I trusted him and I

2215
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 1: did what he's talking to too. He's also one of

2216
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 1: the funniest people I've ever come across. You find that right,

2217
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 1: I love you know when every day I'd walk into

2218
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 1: the weight room and Recipe's sitting there smiling. Six thirty

2219
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 1: in the morning, sixty of th me rescue. You're ready

2220
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: to find out yummy stretch out get your breakfast at then, Yeah,

2221
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: come back here, We'll get you a stretch. You know

2222
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: he got that accident. I just uh, you know, every

2223
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 1: day you walk into the building and Rusty staid and

2224
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: they're ready to go. Fire it up. You know, I

2225
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 1: just made it more enjoyable for me. Yeah, you got

2226
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: the good Rusty Jones invitation. Everybody, everybody who played for him,

2227
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 1: Rusty Jones invitation. There's no question about. Oh we've we've

2228
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: all got him around the Bears for sure. Bran. What's

2229
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: what's life like for you now? Since you been out

2230
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 1: of the NFL for a couple of years. What do

2231
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 1: you do? How do you keep busy? Yeah, you know,

2232
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: my kids keep me pretty busy, and especially right now

2233
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,759
Speaker 1: the football starting. My son plays flas football and tackle football.

2234
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 1: So for his school he plays flax Story back to

2235
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: until four o'clock. I go get him and then I

2236
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 1: go to tackle from six to eight. My daughters are

2237
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: still in school as well. There's my oldest one drives,

2238
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 1: so she's she's pretty busy on her own. My little

2239
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 1: one plays basketball, so we're pretty busy. Um, but you know,

2240
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: when they're at school, I go. I ride my mountain bike.

2241
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: I try to ride every day of the week and

2242
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 1: work out when I can, and golf taking a back

2243
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 1: seat because I stink right now, So um, hang out.

2244
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: My wife and my last she's pretty busy too. She's

2245
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: she's pretty bossy. So we got a lot of stuff

2246
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 1: going on there. What are you living. Are you in Arizona, Brians?

2247
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 1: You live? Yeah, we're out in Sandler, Arizona, Taylor. Now

2248
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 1: there's a lot of high hopes for your former team

2249
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 1: this year, brand new coach and and second year quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on what the Bears might be able to

2251
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: do this season? What do you think? Yeah, I'm super

2252
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: excited about what they're going what's going on there. You know,

2253
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,560
Speaker 1: coach Nigge is awesome. His offensive mindset, it's just they go.

2254
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 1: They up Temple and he changes it up a lot.

2255
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 1: They got some good players in the off season. But

2256
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about Mitch. I mean, you listen to

2257
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 1: him talking to media. He says all the right things.

2258
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 1: He never talks about himself unless it's what he can

2259
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 1: do better. When he talks, he talks about how good

2260
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 1: his teammates did, how good the Lion block they're running

2261
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: backs to, the great job Seeter may nice catch. It's

2262
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: never about what he did or it's always about what

2263
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: he could do better or whateveryone else did great. And

2264
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: I'll really appreciate that about him. Well, it's great to

2265
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 1: hear from you, Brian. We thank you for spending a

2266
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: few minutes with us. Your regulations obviously a much deserved honor,

2267
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: but I really love the speech. I like what you

2268
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: had to say about being a teammate. Thank you very

2269
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 1: much for being appreciate that. Thanks guys, take care. Thanks

2270
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 1: Brian rla Her brand new Pro Football Hall of Famer

2271
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 1: joining us on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh.

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01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 1: His speech was great from the excerpts I saw, including

2273
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,600
Speaker 1: his comments about being a you know, I'd like to

2274
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 1: be remembered as a good teammate. I mean, who wouldn't

2275
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:18,759
Speaker 1: love to have that on their headstone? You know? Absolutely fantastic.

2276
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: The other thing, and he did talk about Bills linebackers

2277
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 1: coach Bob babbitte Let's listen to that. Here's what Brian

2278
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:27,679
Speaker 1: Erlacker said about his presenter last Saturday Night, Bob Babbitt,

2279
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 1: who currently coaches the Buffalo Bills linebackers. BULLA, Bob, wherever

2280
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: you're going right there, Okay, let see you. I want

2281
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 1: you to know you're boys like a father to me

2282
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: and a brother. You're my favorite coach of all time.

2283
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: You know it may be a better football player, but

2284
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 1: a better man. You're on your wife, nancier, impecable role

2285
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 1: models for me and I started to be as good

2286
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 1: at parent to my children as you're a nancier out

2287
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 1: of yours. Thanks bullet, what a tribute and not just

2288
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 1: the words tea, but to be asked to present one

2289
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 1: of your former players at the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

2290
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 1: That's like I would think the ultimate honor for any coaches. Well,

2291
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: and it's it's not just the Hall of Famers either.

2292
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,600
Speaker 1: Those guys they coach because they've got a ton of

2293
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 1: guys that they help like that. Not all of them

2294
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,560
Speaker 1: are going to get to the Hall of Fame. But

2295
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: I know that Bob Babbage is sitting there and knowing,

2296
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 1: and there's dozens and maybe maybe dozens of other guys

2297
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 1: who feel the same way about it. I mean, that's

2298
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: why those guys get into coaching. That's why when I'm

2299
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 1: in the booth and I ask people ask me about

2300
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 1: coaching and stuff. Coaching is not a career, it's a

2301
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 1: lifestyle and being a positive influence on young guys or guys.

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01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: You know, notory are usually younger than you. Some of

2303
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 1: these head coaches in the league now are younger than

2304
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: their players. But you know, usually you get a chance

2305
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 1: to affect young guys in a positive way and teach

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01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 1: them something about themselves and about the game that they play.

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01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: That's really important. I know there's a handful of guys

2308
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,719
Speaker 1: that I played for. Obviously, the head coach, Marv Levy

2309
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 1: was a big difference maker from me. I had guys

2310
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: in my past that I love to death as coaches

2311
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: and and are personal friends of mine. So yeah, that

2312
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 1: it's I don't want to overstate it or get you know,

2313
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 1: crazy about it, but it's a sacred job. I mean,

2314
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 1: it's a sacred responsibility that you have when these guys

2315
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 1: depend on you in a sport that demands so much

2316
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: of them physically. Yeah, it is a sacred responsibility and

2317
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: these guys, most of them live up to it in

2318
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 1: a big way. Let me say this too. Bob Babbitt here,

2319
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,599
Speaker 1: his son Bobby is a Bill's safety's coach, and every

2320
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,719
Speaker 1: year a training camp I get this. I see this happening,

2321
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: and I find it extremely gratifying. So there's ninety players

2322
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 1: at camp. There's only going to be fifty three here

2323
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 1: once the final cutdown comes. So you've got what thirty

2324
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: seven players who won't be here, right, And some of

2325
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: them know who they are already, really, and the coaches

2326
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 1: know who they are, many of them already. And yet

2327
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 1: when you watch a training camp, practice or work out

2328
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 1: even here, they coach them all. They coach them all.

2329
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're a future Hall of Famer

2330
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,719
Speaker 1: like Brian Urlacher or the last cornerback on the roster

2331
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 1: from some tiny little school. For the most part, very rare,

2332
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 1: few exceptions, I've ever seen you get coached by these

2333
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 1: NFL assistant coaches, you know what I mean. And so

2334
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 1: you don't get like shuffled off. Well, you're not gonna

2335
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 1: help us. I'm not gonna waste my time with you.

2336
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 1: I've really never seen that. It's not, as they call it, coaching.

2337
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 1: It's it's teaching, yeah, And it's not only about football.

2338
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 1: It's about a mindset. And it's not only about a

2339
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 1: mindset about how you play a linebacker or offensive line

2340
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:25,560
Speaker 1: or wide receiver or what have He's not about a

2341
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 1: mindset about that. It's a mindset about how you live

2342
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: your life. It's a mindset about connecting what you do

2343
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: away from your work and away from the field, and

2344
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 1: how it affects you on the field, and getting guys

2345
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 1: to see the connection into every aspect of their life

2346
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 1: and it helps them be better dads and husbands and

2347
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 1: fathers as well as better football players. And these coaches,

2348
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: they get these guys, and let's face it and talk

2349
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 1: about now. Tremaine Edmonds is a great example. He's nineteen

2350
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 1: years old when they draft him. It turns twenty a

2351
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:56,680
Speaker 1: couple of days later, and you get these guys at

2352
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one years old. Some of them are twenty

2353
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 1: two years old, and you get midway through their career

2354
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 1: when they're twenty eight. But they're all in their twenties

2355
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 1: mostly and they're still you know, some of them exhibit

2356
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 1: certain attributes and they're lacking in others. You know, you

2357
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: get them at different stages of their career in life.

2358
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: But when you get them young, and it's the same

2359
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 1: way in college when you get them very young, and

2360
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 1: you get them when they're think about it, when they're

2361
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:24,560
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, you get them. You say goodbye to

2362
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,599
Speaker 1: them when they're twenty two and another coach takes over

2363
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 1: for you. It's a it's a chance to affect these guys.

2364
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 1: Uh forget about their football career, but for the rest

2365
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 1: of their lives. You teach them things not only about

2366
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 1: the game, but like I said, more importantly and more

2367
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: crucially about themselves. And it's it's unbelievable the effect these

2368
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: guys have on the on the players that they that

2369
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 1: they coach, and it's real and it's tangible, and even

2370
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: their families will tell you years later what an effect

2371
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 1: those coaches had on their on their husband's fathers and sons.

2372
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing. I think Sir Brian Laker for joining

2373
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 1: us on the show for a couple of minutes. City

2374
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 1: let's reset. We're talking Bill's football here today as well,

2375
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 1: and we're talking tomorrow night's first preseason game with you.

2376
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: We've got phone lines open if you'd like to discuss.

2377
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,600
Speaker 1: Give us two players outside the quarterbacks that you'll be

2378
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 1: watching most closely during tomorrow night's game against Carolina at

2379
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 1: seven o'clock tomorrow builds Carolina Panthers right across the parking

2380
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 1: lot here, everybody's gonna be watching the quarterback battle. But

2381
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 1: which other players one or two? Which players will you

2382
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 1: be watching most closely in that game Tomorrow night. Phone

2383
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,639
Speaker 1: night's open eight oh three oh five fifty or toll

2384
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

2385
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:35,560
Speaker 1: or you can tweet it into us. We've got a

2386
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 1: couple of notes from the tweet sheet from Eric Eggleston.

2387
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:40,599
Speaker 1: Which two players will you'll be watching most closely. Eric

2388
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: says Brandon Riley and Tremaine Edmonds. I would like to

2389
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 1: see Riley be a starter and show off his talents.

2390
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: And I want to see Edmonds take control and live

2391
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: football of the defense and see how well he does that.

2392
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 1: By the way, er Laker obviously no, it's hearsay, but

2393
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: his comments from what he heard from Bob Babbage about

2394
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds, that was impressed, right. I mean, we've heard

2395
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: nothing but impressive things about Tremaine d but those are unsolicited,

2396
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, plaudits for Tremaine Edmonds, premised we asked him,

2397
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 1: you know, right, But I mean the fact that Herlocker

2398
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 1: knew his name right away and knew exactly and he

2399
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 1: called about him by his coach, by Babbage, that impressed me.

2400
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: It's interesting too because of our Twitter question. Brian Herlocker,

2401
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer for the Chicago Bears, answered it

2402
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:24,560
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm gonna watch Tremaine Edmonds because I

2403
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 1: want to see He's heard a lot of things about

2404
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 1: him from people he knows and respects, and and uh,

2405
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: and we're in that same boat. And I love these

2406
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 1: Twitter questions that are not Poles because it gives people

2407
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 1: a chance to expound on what they think. And and

2408
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: I like Poles, I know, yeah, but like Bart Bart

2409
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 1: D'Angelo chimes, and he's I'm interested in all two thousand

2410
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 1: and seventeen drafted on the roster, especially White and Dawcas,

2411
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: Tredavious White and Dion Dawkins. He believes the sophomore jinks

2412
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: his players becoming complacent, easy to relax, not take the

2413
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: next step forward, especially in offseason preparation and then and

2414
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 1: this offseason. So he wants to make sure that the

2415
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: guys like they're counting on, like Dion Dawkins and Tradevious White,

2416
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 1: are gonna show up the way they did and we

2417
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 1: in year one. And I'll tell you this, and I

2418
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 1: kind of get that, but I'll tell you this that

2419
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 1: something I'll remember from this training camp. First offensive play

2420
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 1: of training camp, first live snap of training camp, Nate

2421
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 1: Peterman drops back and hits a very quick hitch to

2422
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:27,799
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin and Tredavious White jumped it yea and almost

2423
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 1: picked it off. I mean he is he came back

2424
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 1: with a vengeance. All we talked about it. We didn't

2425
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 1: have that much to talk about in April, March April

2426
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 1: and May. Right. So Tredavious White, we're talking about all

2427
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 1: these offseason accolades these guys got, and Tredavious White was

2428
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 1: always the forgotten cornerback in the NFL, in the rankings

2429
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. He had as good a corner

2430
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: a year at corner at last year's anybody. And he

2431
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,600
Speaker 1: was completely forgotten about in the off season. And he

2432
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:57,640
Speaker 1: remembered it, he heard it, and he is. He's on

2433
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 1: a mission this season, and I think that's awesome place

2434
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:02,560
Speaker 1: to be for a player. I would not, based on

2435
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 1: what I've seen during the offseason, during the OTAs and

2436
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 1: now two weeks of training camp, I would not worry

2437
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 1: about Tredavious White having a sophomore slump at It's not

2438
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I don't think it is. He guy's a player.

2439
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 1: He's a big time player. Also from the tweet sheet

2440
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 1: from Nick Blake, what are you looking at? Which players

2441
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,760
Speaker 1: are you be watching? He says, the secondary coming off

2442
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:22,640
Speaker 1: the bench behind our starters, the back end of our

2443
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:24,640
Speaker 1: d is supposed to be an anchor. We need good

2444
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 1: players making great plays coming off the bench. Here's a

2445
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 1: couple of safeties to watch and if you haven't been

2446
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 1: the camp, keep an eye on Rafael Bush, former New

2447
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 1: Orleans Saint, who has come up with big plays at

2448
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 1: training camp. And there's a really good story in the

2449
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 1: paper the other day yesterday maybe about Dean Marlowe, who

2450
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 1: has played in the league. He's backing up at safety.

2451
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 1: He's with the twos. He'll play probably a lot tomorrow night,

2452
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 1: number thirty one, Dean Marlowe. A couple of guys to watch.

2453
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:49,600
Speaker 1: I think, you know if I'm if I'm making my

2454
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 1: cuts right now putting together my fifty three man roster.

2455
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 1: Both of those guys are on the roster, Dean marlow

2456
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 1: and Rafael Bush. I'm thinking they'll be able to contribute

2457
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 1: in some sense on special teams. But two guys to watch.

2458
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 1: They calling Nick Blake makes a good point. Back up

2459
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:06,880
Speaker 1: defensive becks. Rafael Bush has I think, been an extremely

2460
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise at camp. And Dean Marlowe in the last

2461
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 1: week especially, he's getting significant reps and doing a good job.

2462
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 1: You've got to be ready at everywhere on your roster

2463
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 1: for when injuries strike, because it is a physical game

2464
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 1: and you're gonna lose some guys either. Even if it's

2465
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 1: just for half a game. If you get unbelievably lucky

2466
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 1: and none of your starters ever get hurt. If if

2467
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 1: that happens, if you get through the season and all

2468
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 1: twenty two of your starters are all twenty five of

2469
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 1: the guys you would not just starters in different personnel

2470
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 1: packages go through unscathed. Not only you're going to the

2471
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 1: super Bowl, you're gonna you're probably gonna win it, because

2472
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:42,560
Speaker 1: being that healthy for that long through this kind of

2473
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:46,600
Speaker 1: season you're you're gonna endure is almost unheard of. So

2474
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 1: you're right, Guys like Dean Marlowe, Rafael Bush, guys like

2475
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 1: Ramon Humber, Philip Gaines, all these guys on the second line,

2476
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:56,919
Speaker 1: and even on offense, you got guys like Nick O'Leary,

2477
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 1: Connor McDermott, all these guys that are playing backup roles

2478
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 1: at whatever position you can name. They're huge. They've got

2479
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 1: to step in and play well like Deon Dawkins did.

2480
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: A year ago, Cordy Glenn was the starting left tackle

2481
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 1: and Dion Dawkins was asked to come and he turned

2482
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 1: into the Buffalo Bills starting left tackle and paved the

2483
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 1: way for Cordy Glenn being traded so the Bills could

2484
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 1: move up to number twelve in the draft, draft the

2485
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:26,639
Speaker 1: guy who they think is going to be their franchise

2486
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 1: quarterback going forward. All those all those trades and player

2487
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 1: moves and roster moves were made possible because you had

2488
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 1: a guy in Dion Dawkins that they drafted last year

2489
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: and turned out to be the guy they needed. And

2490
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 1: that's that's huge. Who are you watching tomorrow besides quarterbacks?

2491
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 1: Who are you gonna keep an eye on. Let's take

2492
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 1: a few phone calls on this. Uh, let's go to

2493
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 1: Steve on the line. Steve, where are you calling from Watertown? Okay,

2494
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with this. Well, it's

2495
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 1: a hard pick, but I'm gonna watch the rookie at

2496
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:58,440
Speaker 1: middle linebacker for sure. I want to see that only

2497
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 1: his ability, but how he calling the game and getting

2498
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: everybody in the right position, because that's gonna be a challenge.

2499
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 1: That's first second, I'm gonna watch Benjamin at wide. Don't

2500
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 1: you know he ran his mouth last week. I think

2501
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 1: he's come in out of shape at different years. We

2502
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 1: hear he's in shape this year. I want to see

2503
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 1: what he looks like if there's a little bit of

2504
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 1: explosion off the snap and if he can dominate inside,

2505
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 1: if he can't, him running his mouth last week about

2506
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 1: Cam is a moot point. And then there's a mood point.

2507
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters a wit. How don't it

2508
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: matters anything what he said last week? But go ahead,

2509
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, Steve. I think it does, John, because well

2510
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 1: he said it was mood I thought you said it

2511
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 1: was a mood point. No, it could be. It could

2512
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 1: be a moot point. If it's it's contradictory if he

2513
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 1: doesn't come in prepared and what he criticized another player

2514
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 1: about He's the same kind of guy, but a one

2515
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 1: A a Shack Lawson because same type thing as Benjamin.

2516
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 1: Is he prepared? Is he in shape? Is he ready

2517
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 1: to live up to the quality pick that the Bills

2518
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 1: made on him? So you got two dumb ones. I

2519
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 1: got one A is Shack Losses. Yeah, and those are

2520
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: good choices because the Bills are gonna want those guys

2521
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 1: to produce that. You need those guys to be good. Obviously,

2522
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds in the middle of the offense, the middle

2523
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 1: of the defense called on the plays. He's got to

2524
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 1: step up to the plate and be a quality NFL starter.

2525
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 1: And of course, Benjamin in a contract year, in a

2526
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 1: year that both Murph and I the same day. I

2527
01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 1: think we saw him walk through the facility after you know,

2528
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 1: a couple of months of offseason, and he looked markedly different.

2529
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 1: He looked like a better athlete just from walking around.

2530
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 1: So he has definitely come back trying to play well.

2531
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 1: So you're and you're right. The stuff he said about

2532
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, While I don't think it's a big deal

2533
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 1: in the big picture, it does say something about him

2534
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 1: if he doesn't come back and produce, So it's a

2535
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: good thing to watch him. Plus, they're dependent on him

2536
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 1: at White Eye. He's their only quality, proven player at

2537
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 1: that spot. They need him to show up big and

2538
01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 1: play well and stay healthy to play. And of course

2539
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 1: Shack loss And you're right, you know his number one

2540
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 1: pick a couple of years ago. It's time and that's

2541
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 1: all you really need to say. It's time for him

2542
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 1: to show up. There's a call from Al in Lockport.

2543
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Al, welcome to the show. Yeah, I'm arrested

2544
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 1: watching the whole offensive line. Um, I'm from sitting our quarterbacks,

2545
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 1: our first overall pick for a long time here until

2546
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 1: we show up that offensive line. We lost two great linemens,

2547
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 1: we only drafted one. I loved Dawkins. I just don't

2548
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 1: know if we want to put a rookie quarterback out

2549
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:41,680
Speaker 1: there without that proven line. I'll tell you what though,

2550
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't don't think they haven't addressed it. I mean

2551
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 1: they signed they signed Russ Bodine from Cincinnati and the

2552
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 1: word on hit, and we've talked about it a bunch. Uh.

2553
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 1: He started for four straight years, never missed a starting

2554
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 1: his career, he had three outstanding years and Cincinnati last

2555
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 1: year he did not. And why that year? Last year?

2556
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 1: Coming into last year, the Bengals lost two offensive linemen

2557
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 1: that went off to free agency and Hit struck it

2558
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 1: rich and so Bodine was left behind trying to cover

2559
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 1: for guys who weren't quite to quality that they needed

2560
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 1: them to be. And I think their entire team suffered

2561
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 1: because of it. Bodine's a pretty good player, but he

2562
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 1: was trying to cover for a guard who disappeared in

2563
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 1: free agency. So there's that. Also, you've got a guy

2564
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 1: like Groy, You've got two guys that played for this

2565
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: club last year, and the offensive line that you liked

2566
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 1: so much last year, and they're still here and they

2567
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 1: both started games for this club. So don't think this

2568
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 1: offensive line is bereft of talent. Both tackles are back,

2569
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 1: and the right guard is back, and the center who

2570
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 1: was here last year in Ryan Groy and Russ Bodine

2571
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 1: coming in. You've got two guys that can step in

2572
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 1: and play so and the guards that started last year

2573
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,520
Speaker 1: are playing right and left guard here. They switched side.

2574
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 1: So don't think this offen of line is bereft of talent,

2575
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 1: because I don't think it is. In fact, there's not. First,

2576
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm less, I'm I gotta be honest with you. Most

2577
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 1: of the fans are saying that I'm less worried about

2578
01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: our offensive line than i am wide receiver behind Calvin Benjamin.

2579
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:14,640
Speaker 1: All right, a breakcare. We got more to come, more

2580
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 1: of your phone calls, more discussion on who you're gonna

2581
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 1: watch closely tomorrow, and we'll get the NFL true and

2582
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 1: false all of that when we return. One Bill's Live

2583
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 1: presented by Collada Health. We're coming here from One Bill's Drive.

2584
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's radio show. It's called One Bill's Live.

2585
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:40,360
Speaker 1: The show has twenty five minutes left today. We got

2586
01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 1: to show tomorrow noon to three and then a football

2587
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 1: game tomorrow night. John Murphy, Steve Tasker from One Bill's Drive,

2588
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 1: Cloudy Day, Little Rainy Today, Steve, hard Knocks. We're talking

2589
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 1: in the control room with our crew. I did not

2590
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 1: see it last night. I was doing the Carolina Panthers

2591
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:58,960
Speaker 1: prep work. You did not see it. I'm looking forward

2592
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 1: to seeing it. We had this question, I think it

2593
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 1: was a true Falls a week or two ago. Are

2594
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns the most interesting winless team ever? And

2595
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:11,280
Speaker 1: I thought, what a stupid question, you know, because they're terrible.

2596
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 1: But it sounds like, based on the early reviews of

2597
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks one of the clips I've seen, it sounds

2598
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 1: like the Browns don't come off looking that good. Not good,

2599
02:00:19,120 --> 02:00:22,160
Speaker 1: good football team, but it's just not as an organized, functional,

2600
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:24,640
Speaker 1: trying to get better team, which I'm sure they were

2601
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:26,560
Speaker 1: looking to do when they agreed to do a Hard Knocks.

2602
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:30,879
Speaker 1: It's hard to look good when air your dirty laundry.

2603
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what Hard Knocks is. People don't understand

2604
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:37,560
Speaker 1: how much debate goes on within a coaching staff. That's

2605
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 1: even if it's close knit even if you're a good team.

2606
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 1: Even if you're a good team, you got guys going

2607
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: calling each other crazy over a certain player, you know,

2608
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 1: And it's hard for people to get their mind around

2609
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 1: the fact that these guys work closely together towards the

2610
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 1: same goal and have such different opinions about how they're

2611
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 1: going to get there and who's going to help them

2612
02:00:54,400 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 1: get there. But there's arguments over players on the uster,

2613
02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 1: and you know, you saw we have seen some clips

2614
02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 1: and stuff about guys, you know, who should practice who shouldn't. It.

2615
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 1: It's hard to have your coaching staff looked like they're

2616
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 1: all buttoned up and look really good when they're when

2617
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:16,600
Speaker 1: they're you give such access to the nuts and bolts

2618
02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:19,960
Speaker 1: of how it actually comes together. I'm reading a review

2619
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 1: on MMQB. It says, um, the Browns picked the right

2620
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 1: time to emerge from their two years slumber in hopes

2621
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 1: of maximize maximizing the optimism. They call it a perfect

2622
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 1: matchup the Cleveland Browns looking to redefine their image. Um,

2623
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 1: they may redefine it, but that might not be a

2624
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 1: better image right for the Cleveland Browns. Redefining doesn't. While

2625
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:42,760
Speaker 1: the Browns are worse than we anticipated. The coaching staff

2626
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 1: is is worse than we thought. Yeah, I mean Greg

2627
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:49,600
Speaker 1: Williams had some interesting comments. Greg Williams is I mean,

2628
02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:52,560
Speaker 1: I know him, and he was here as a head coach. Obviously,

2629
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:54,160
Speaker 1: this was his first stop as a head coach. He's

2630
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 1: been around the league as a coordinator. He's he's an

2631
02:01:56,280 --> 02:02:00,200
Speaker 1: excellent defensive coordinator in the NFL, absolutely no question about it.

2632
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 1: But he is no shrinking violin. No, And I'll tell

2633
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 1: you what. Todd Haley, who was head coach of the

2634
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:10,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, won a division title with the Kansa

2635
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:13,040
Speaker 1: Cy Chiefs, been in in Pittsburgh the last few years

2636
02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator. He is no shrinking violet. Those guys

2637
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:22,480
Speaker 1: are type A plus personalities and and Todd Haley's got

2638
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:28,080
Speaker 1: a temper and and Greg Williams got an ego and

2639
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson's is riding heard on both those guys trying

2640
02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 1: to keep trying to lead a team. You know, they man,

2641
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 1: that is a that is a volatile mix, which is

2642
02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 1: not necessarily to say that they're going to be unsuccessful, right,

2643
02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 1: they may be wildly successful and win Murph, they may

2644
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 1: be wildly successful just for that for those two guys

2645
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 1: who who keep wanting to outperform one another and and

2646
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 1: wanting to you know, bust lose and they want you know,

2647
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:57,760
Speaker 1: they bring out sometimes that brings out the best in

2648
02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:00,800
Speaker 1: guys like that. They try harder so they don't get

2649
02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:03,720
Speaker 1: shown up, you know, they try harder, they do things,

2650
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 1: they're innovative, they'll try things, they'll do and being on

2651
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 1: the same staff together. May Browns have got some guys

2652
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 1: this now from now, I don't know this just in.

2653
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 1: They've signed some guy, they've got some good draft pick,

2654
02:03:17,600 --> 02:03:22,560
Speaker 1: they got some players, and they've got two proven quality coordinators.

2655
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:26,480
Speaker 1: Browns aren't going on in sixteen. I'm telling you right now.

2656
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:31,600
Speaker 1: Two coordinators, both former head coaches, both high profile guys,

2657
02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: both of them you would think willing and maybe eager

2658
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 1: to use hard Knocks as their ticket back to the

2659
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:39,960
Speaker 1: big time. Right, It's it's gonna be. They're both The

2660
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 1: people are gonna love me on hard Knocks this year.

2661
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:45,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna hire me. They're entertaining. Listen. Greg Williams is

2662
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:48,680
Speaker 1: nothing if not entertaining. Todd Hayley I do too, and

2663
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 1: Todd Haley I'm one of the few guys who I

2664
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:53,960
Speaker 1: like him. And there's a lot of people who who

2665
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 1: keep him at arm's length because he you know, he

2666
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:03,960
Speaker 1: doesn't care man. He's I've Bruce de Haven was on

2667
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,760
Speaker 1: the staff with him in Dallas for Bill Parcels, and

2668
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:08,920
Speaker 1: Bruce had stories about you know, he is just a

2669
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 1: He is an aggressive, confrontational coach and doesn't pull any punches,

2670
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:17,400
Speaker 1: and I know he gets resolved. I think hard Knocks

2671
02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:20,200
Speaker 1: sounds fun. After this game tomorrow eight, I'll probably watch

2672
02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 1: episode one over the weekend. I'll let you think about

2673
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:24,360
Speaker 1: it too. The Bills have got their own embedded programs

2674
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:26,200
Speaker 1: come around there and they've got it. Now, that's an

2675
02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:28,000
Speaker 1: in house thing, and you bet that tone is going

2676
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,840
Speaker 1: to be a little different than HBO than HBO. Hey,

2677
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, Bill's Carolina seven o'clock. I don't know from

2678
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 1: you other than the quarterbacks. Who do you got your

2679
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 1: eye on? Who are you gonna watch closely? Give us

2680
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 1: a call. We'll talk about it on Twitter eight oh

2681
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 1: three five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

2682
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:45,400
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. We'll go to norm and Albany.

2683
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 1: Go ahead, and Normy around the air. No, I'm not

2684
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 1: in Albany. I'm in ald In, New York. There go

2685
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 1: our backyard. Go ahead, normOn, gentlemen. The two players I'm

2686
02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:59,400
Speaker 1: gonna be looking at is Trent Murphy and Corey Coleman.

2687
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:01,800
Speaker 1: If they both played, they may not play either one

2688
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 1: of them. Murphy's been hurt for a week Groyn and

2689
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:08,040
Speaker 1: h Coleman just got here first practice yesterday, so I

2690
02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna play. Okay, And um, before

2691
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 1: I hang up, Steve, you should be in the You

2692
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:18,160
Speaker 1: should be in Canton. Boom, we do, we do a shot.

2693
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll tell you what, how about piss normal. I'll

2694
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 1: just buy a summer place in Canton. I think maybe

2695
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. Brown should bring back Johnny football. Right, did

2696
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:33,040
Speaker 1: you see him last week? Yeah? Yeah, he's laughing. Okay,

2697
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:37,280
Speaker 1: I get you. That would add, yeah, an extra degree

2698
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:40,520
Speaker 1: of difficulty to that little scenario. Colin from Toronto on

2699
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:42,360
Speaker 1: the line with us. Colin, go ahead, you're on the air.

2700
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:46,480
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call, gentlemen. And absolutely right, mister Tasker.

2701
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:48,520
Speaker 1: You should be in the Hall of Fame. Boom, another shot.

2702
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't say you're absolutely right, mister Tasker. I didn't

2703
02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:56,000
Speaker 1: say that, Colin, go ahead. I don't want I you know,

2704
02:05:56,120 --> 02:05:58,480
Speaker 1: what I really will be watching in Amorrow's game is

2705
02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 1: a play calling from the offensive coordinator, because you know,

2706
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:03,800
Speaker 1: I a little to your point earlier about the offensive line.

2707
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm not as concerned, although I do have a little

2708
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:10,360
Speaker 1: concern and the fact that it's a new group and generally,

2709
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, it takes more than just a camp to

2710
02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 1: get a line up together working on all cylinders. You've

2711
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:19,640
Speaker 1: got new quarterbacks in town with the exception of Nathan Peterman,

2712
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:23,200
Speaker 1: and then you're it's an entirely new offensive scheme. So

2713
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:26,320
Speaker 1: I really want to see what all the all the

2714
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:29,760
Speaker 1: tricks of the bag. Won't come out, No, no, you're

2715
02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:31,600
Speaker 1: not going to see anything from the offense. Eve. It's

2716
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 1: going to be it's gonna be vanilla, as they say, right,

2717
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:37,200
Speaker 1: You're not going to see what this offense looks like

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. You might see what some of the predator,

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02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, what is some of his preconceptions are. It's

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02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:46,280
Speaker 1: what he likes to run. Is it rpo, is it past?

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02:06:46,680 --> 02:06:49,360
Speaker 1: Is it run heavy? Um, you know, some of those

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02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 1: concepts will be starting. I would hope what do you think, Steve,

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02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:54,160
Speaker 1: what do you think of that? That's a great point.

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02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, because Brian Dable's going to have a lot

2725
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 1: to say about the six sess of this football team,

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02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 1: and we don't know what it looks like when he

2727
02:07:04,760 --> 02:07:08,360
Speaker 1: calls plays in the NFL with these guys, and I

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02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:11,840
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's very intriguing. And I think

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02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:14,320
Speaker 1: that's if there was one thing, and this is the

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02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 1: interesting part of it, if there was one thing that

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02:07:17,240 --> 02:07:22,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots, Dolphins, and Jets would love to know, is

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02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:24,280
Speaker 1: what it's going to be like when Brian day Ball

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02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:26,920
Speaker 1: calls plays for the Buffalo Bills. They are dying to

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02:07:27,040 --> 02:07:28,680
Speaker 1: find out what that's going to look like, just like

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02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:32,080
Speaker 1: the rest of us. And they are watching very closely

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02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 1: what happens the Buffalo Bills in preseason offensively, what the

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02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 1: quarterbacks look like, what they're asking each guy to do,

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02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:40,160
Speaker 1: if there's a subtle difference in what they're asking each

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02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:44,240
Speaker 1: guy to do, what the offensive line looks like. The Patriots, Jets,

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02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:47,720
Speaker 1: and Dolphins are neck deep and scouting the Buffalo Bills,

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02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:49,280
Speaker 1: and they want to know what day Ball wants is

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02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 1: doing too. So that's who they're going to be watching,

2743
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:53,840
Speaker 1: no question about it. They'll watch the players, absolutely, they'll

2744
02:07:53,880 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 1: evaluate him, they'll even get files on him in case

2745
02:07:56,280 --> 02:08:01,000
Speaker 1: they become available. But they're watching day ball and they're

2746
02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:03,839
Speaker 1: dissecting every decision he makes. And that's that's an interesting

2747
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:07,000
Speaker 1: that's an interesting take um for by Colin, and that's

2748
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:10,480
Speaker 1: a that's a great call. Great, there's Max on the line. Max,

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02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:13,720
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Yeah. I had a

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02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:17,360
Speaker 1: question for Steve Um. Do you believe in the idea

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02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:19,760
Speaker 1: of culture and it's part of the process of winning

2752
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:22,320
Speaker 1: or do you think it's overrated? That's what I had

2753
02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:24,400
Speaker 1: been talking about last night on the three o'clock show,

2754
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:26,680
Speaker 1: and I wanted to see what's your opinion in since

2755
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:30,200
Speaker 1: Joan locker room. Yeah, I'm a big believer in it, Um.

2756
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:32,919
Speaker 1: I know some coaches are not. I know Bill Belichick

2757
02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:34,600
Speaker 1: is not that much of a believer in it, but

2758
02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:37,400
Speaker 1: I think, you know, he he has a little bit

2759
02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 1: of a luxury and in the fact that, um, he's

2760
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 1: got you know, the greatest quarterback maybe of all time

2761
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:46,040
Speaker 1: playing for him and has had for seventeen years. But

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02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't some coaches really believe in it. I think

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02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:50,560
Speaker 1: if you look at the success the Bills had last year,

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02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:53,640
Speaker 1: if you want to call a playoff appearance, successful um

2765
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:56,360
Speaker 1: and the I think there's no question that this roster

2766
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 1: in Buffalo last year has to be categorized as overachieving.

2767
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:03,000
Speaker 1: They got to the playoffs in a year when in

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02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season people said they were tanking.

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02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:11,280
Speaker 1: So and I think a large ingredient to their success

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02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 1: was their culture. So you and I don't know whether

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02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:21,320
Speaker 1: great teams have automatically have good culture or good culture

2772
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:27,080
Speaker 1: automatically gets a great team. I know that the best

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02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:29,440
Speaker 1: teams I ever saw had great culture. I mean that's

2774
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:33,400
Speaker 1: all I can say. Yeah, exactly exactly now I do.

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02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:36,320
Speaker 1: I do believe I saw it here in Buffalo last year.

2776
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 1: The culture was an enormous positive ingredient towards their success.

2777
02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 1: I think it spurred them on. I think it got

2778
02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 1: them through some tough times. I think they dug deep

2779
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:48,520
Speaker 1: when this season looked like it was going south, when

2780
02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:52,560
Speaker 1: their defense disappeared for three games, they dug deep. Culture

2781
02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:54,880
Speaker 1: lets you dig deep when things go bad. They always

2782
02:09:54,920 --> 02:09:58,840
Speaker 1: go bad at some point. Bad culture, I think team

2783
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:00,480
Speaker 1: You look at read what's coming out of the New

2784
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 1: York Jets locker room where they got this young player

2785
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:05,160
Speaker 1: last year who said they were mailing it in last

2786
02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:07,520
Speaker 1: year when things weren't going well, the Bills did not

2787
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 1: mail it in. Safety said, yeah, Jamal Adams said, they

2788
02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:12,360
Speaker 1: were all mailing it in last year in New York.

2789
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 1: For the Jets, you know for a fact that one

2790
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:18,960
Speaker 1: Bill's drive, this team never mailed it in, and they

2791
02:10:19,040 --> 02:10:20,960
Speaker 1: got to the playoffs in a year when they thought

2792
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:23,360
Speaker 1: they were tanking. I'd like to know what the Jets

2793
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:25,240
Speaker 1: could have done if they had dug deep, but because

2794
02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 1: their players are telling you they didn't. Hey, we were

2795
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:30,600
Speaker 1: talking about Greig Williams and his performance on Hard Knocks.

2796
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:34,120
Speaker 1: More that to common than remaining episodes. Lorenzo Alexander watched

2797
02:10:34,160 --> 02:10:36,320
Speaker 1: last night. In fact, he tweeted out today a couple

2798
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:40,680
Speaker 1: of hours ago. Lorenzo Alexander said, I normally don't watch

2799
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:44,960
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, but Greg Williams is much watch TV must watch.

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02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 1: He coached, He coached me in Washington and hasn't changed

2801
02:10:49,760 --> 02:10:52,640
Speaker 1: one bit. I agree with that. Greig william seems like

2802
02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:54,840
Speaker 1: he's much the same. I just talked to him a

2803
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 1: year ago or so at the Combine. I think he's

2804
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:59,560
Speaker 1: the same guy. He hasn't changed, He's compelling. I'm sure

2805
02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:01,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna be great TV. You know, we started the

2806
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:03,880
Speaker 1: show talking about production meetings. I've been in production meetings

2807
02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:06,400
Speaker 1: with Greg and I was in one last year and

2808
02:11:08,240 --> 02:11:11,200
Speaker 1: he is who he is. Is no hid I like

2809
02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:13,280
Speaker 1: him all right? To breakcare, We've got more to come.

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Speaker 1: It is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, Steve Tasker,

2811
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:33,280
Speaker 1: John Murphy, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Kind Now

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Speaker 1: home theater provider with the Buffalo Bills. Good show today.

2816
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 1: Mark Kelso joined us today on the show just says

2817
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:49,520
Speaker 1: he does during the regular season. The preview of the game.

2818
02:11:49,600 --> 02:11:51,880
Speaker 1: Mark is the color analysts on the Bills Radio Network.

2819
02:11:52,120 --> 02:11:54,920
Speaker 1: Former Bills safety Mark Kelso had some thoughts on Bills

2820
02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:58,240
Speaker 1: veteran wide receiver Calvin Benjamin and his approach to his

2821
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:03,080
Speaker 1: first full season with the Buffalo Bills. I'm really interested

2822
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:06,480
Speaker 1: in seeing Calvin Benjamin, and I think, you know, he

2823
02:12:07,080 --> 02:12:10,560
Speaker 1: probably had some extreme disappointment when the trade happened last year,

2824
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:12,280
Speaker 1: and it kind of came as a surprise. To him,

2825
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 1: it seemed like it, and then he had the injury.

2826
02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:17,400
Speaker 1: Made a number of really good plays last year, but

2827
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:20,640
Speaker 1: has some great capabilities, and my understanding is that he's

2828
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:23,440
Speaker 1: gotten himself in fantastic shape, probably the best shape of

2829
02:12:23,560 --> 02:12:26,520
Speaker 1: his young NFL career here, and I think that he

2830
02:12:26,680 --> 02:12:29,839
Speaker 1: needs to have a major impact here on this offensive

2831
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:32,000
Speaker 1: unit if they're going to be successful in the passing game.

2832
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Speaker 1: Good to hear from Mark Kelso today about tomorrow night's game. Also,

2833
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:38,800
Speaker 1: Brian Urlacker, brand new Pro Football Hall of Famer thirteen

2834
02:12:38,920 --> 02:12:42,720
Speaker 1: years Chicago Bears middle linebacker Bryan Erlacker had current Bills

2835
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:46,000
Speaker 1: linebackers coach Bob Babbage present him for induction in the

2836
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:48,400
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame over the weekend. Babbage was his coach

2837
02:12:48,480 --> 02:12:51,520
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Here's what Brian Urlacher said about his buddy

2838
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:56,840
Speaker 1: Bob Babbage. Man, I love playing that. He's more like

2839
02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:59,080
Speaker 1: my brother. He used to pick me offs every day, right,

2840
02:12:59,080 --> 02:13:01,680
Speaker 1: he should get in there like nobody else. We would

2841
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:05,200
Speaker 1: go at it like brothers, but we were so competitive.

2842
02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:07,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to be better. You wanted to make me better.

2843
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:10,800
Speaker 1: He challenged me every single day. You know what it

2844
02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 1: was at meetings, walkthroughs, trying to just I mean, I

2845
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:15,720
Speaker 1: had to be on my toes all the time with

2846
02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:17,880
Speaker 1: coach because he was always challenging. I mean, and that's

2847
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:19,800
Speaker 1: why I appreciate it. You know, I didn't even might

2848
02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 1: make it back. He was always challenging me to get better,

2849
02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:25,760
Speaker 1: and not just me, but Lance and or the backers

2850
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:29,440
Speaker 1: as well. We appreciated that. Brian or Lacker, the anti

2851
02:13:29,720 --> 02:13:33,000
Speaker 1: terall Owens. As far as Hall of Fame's our concern, seriously,

2852
02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he goes, gives a great speech, talks about

2853
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:37,120
Speaker 1: being a great teammate. That's how he wants to be remembered.

2854
02:13:37,480 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 1: Good for him. I love talking to him today. That

2855
02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:41,360
Speaker 1: was great, It was, It was, yeah, he was. It

2856
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:44,640
Speaker 1: was great hearing from them, great um, hearing about his

2857
02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:48,680
Speaker 1: the guys that were important to him, and yeah, it was.

2858
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,280
Speaker 1: It was nice to see good guys do well. Game

2859
02:13:51,400 --> 02:13:53,240
Speaker 1: day tomorrow, Steve and I'll be here at from twelve

2860
02:13:53,320 --> 02:13:54,760
Speaker 1: noon to three pm to get you ready for the

2861
02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 1: bills in Carolina. Our production assistant George Blast, Jeff Colteneck,

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2863
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Speaker 1: James robol Our, producer Jay Harris see tomorrow at noon

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