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Speaker 2: comments though. For episode two two two one, two thousand

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Speaker 2: and two hundred and twenty one, the Grittriarchy, our girl

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Speaker 2: Sidney says, I don't like none of that weird congeal piss,

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Speaker 2: but I'm black so sweet potato that must have been

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Speaker 2: for the pole far as right saying, hey, y'all, just

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Speaker 2: wanted to clarify why I don't fully buy into defund

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Speaker 2: being the main reason Dems took losses. I'm not one

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Speaker 2: of those people so married to the phrase that I

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Speaker 2: feel like you can't drop the name to fit your region.

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Speaker 2: Of course, progressive messaging ain't gonna play everywhere. I got

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Speaker 2: those at South Carolina ads here too all over the spectrum.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it wasn't used against them. Here's why.

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Speaker 2: Here's my thing. Jamie lost with forty four percent of

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Speaker 2: forty six percent. The DEMS lost the AG race with

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Speaker 2: with historical trends for how DEM's run statewide in South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: That's why I think too much is being made of defund.

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Speaker 2: That's the reason for the loss. That was the issue,

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Speaker 2: That's why I think the fact that the landscape was

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Speaker 2: for the losses. Now, like you said, addressed the voter

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Speaker 2: suppression is a whole new ball game. But for now,

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Speaker 2: I think the demographics are what they are and the

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Speaker 1: Out what do you call it, out fundraised by so

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Speaker 2: Even in those other races you brought up, they weren't

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get past voter suppression, We're gonna do all

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Speaker 2: And ultimately, while I agree with you, I don't think

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Speaker 2: But and also if you look at the race, he

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Speaker 2: Like to me, he's a good example of it has

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Speaker 2: to be voter suppression that loses the race for a

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Speaker 2: Do what our side does where they encourage apathy and

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. They're never gonna do that.

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Speaker 2: They're never gonna take their foot off our next So

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Speaker 2: our teams take that tactic because it's like you're taking

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: But I think when you look at some of these

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Speaker 2: by in twenty twenty. Yeah, little things like the messaging,

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Speaker 2: little things like you know, where you spend your money,

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Speaker 2: you know, Facebook and the fucking pandemic.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that stuff, you know, comes into play.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any simple explanation for why it

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Speaker 3: I think people do that because to be told, when

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Speaker 3: people talk about it, everybody wants to simplify it. Nobody

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Speaker 3: the nuances of it. It's really easy to be like, well,

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Speaker 1: Well, defund the police is stupid.

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Speaker 3: It's just really simple to actually get these points, put

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both sides are very much over undercomplicating it to

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Speaker 2: just because I think they have some issues with each

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Speaker 2: for the struggles of the party, and it's like it's

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Speaker 2: probably a combination of both. It's probably some of the

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Speaker 2: messaging in progressive areas does get used against some of

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Speaker 2: are you moderates even like holding us back? You know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, And you know we've talked about it

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Speaker 2: in depth, you know. But I think the false choice

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Speaker 2: I just don't know that that's the truth.

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Speaker 3: No, no, And it may be in some areas, but

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Speaker 3: it's not everywhere. And you know, like you, like you said,

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Speaker 3: certain parts of the country, and to person Rodin, when

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Speaker 3: voter suppression, because the thing is everybody acts like raising

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Speaker 3: money because that was the thing. Before you raised the money,

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Speaker 3: once you get past that, the slogan had nothing to

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Speaker 3: do with that. It was voter suppression.

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Speaker 2: I also listened to the Spanburger interview, and I believe

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Speaker 2: it was harder for her this year.

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Speaker 1: Messaging was absolutely part of that.

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Speaker 2: But I also think twenty eighteen being a year without

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Speaker 2: as much, if not more, of a factor. Yeah, it,

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Speaker 2: which is funny because neither side pointed to that. Plus

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Speaker 2: as much like everybody well, I thought was commonality in

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Speaker 2: both sides of this modern versus progressive thing, and the

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Speaker 2: but and then Spanburger, they all said they the one

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Speaker 2: amount of turnout for Trump.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like that, bingo. That's where y'all should.

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Speaker 2: Be agreeing, touching hands and figuring out how to win

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Speaker 2: rather than blaming each other, right, because that wasn't nobody's

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Speaker 2: quote unquote fault. There's nothing Democrats could have done to

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Speaker 2: depress turnout for this dude, like nothing. If his administration's

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Speaker 2: there's nothing a Democrat could have.

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Speaker 1: Said or done. Plus as much of the as a.

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Speaker 2: Conventionalism is all for, it's for all politics to stay

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Speaker 2: local because of these regional differences, it's damn there possible

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Speaker 2: in a post citizens United world.

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Speaker 1: The money needs to compete me.

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Speaker 2: The money needed to compete means you pretty much have

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Speaker 2: the fundraise nationally, and that's a double edged sword. Sure,

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Speaker 2: the corporate money that tends to go to Republicans, but

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Speaker 2: then you ultimately end up getting saddled with your parties

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Speaker 2: perceived negatives.

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 2: Also, it just seems to me that if Republicans can

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Speaker 2: take Obamacare and make sure that's a negative, they'll literally do.

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Speaker 1: That to anything progressive agree.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not saying messaging doesn't matter at all, but

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Speaker 2: at a certain point we have to stand up in

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Speaker 2: and educate convinced the public like that what ultimately happened

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Speaker 2: with Obamacare or Black Lives Matter. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: putting so much blame on activists derived messaging when all

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Speaker 2: these other factors are at play. Yeah, I mean, my

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Speaker 2: thing is that you gotta eat that too. You can't like.

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Speaker 2: This is the thing I notice a lot is we

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Speaker 1: Go to this, right Nah. I agree with.

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Speaker 2: Defund the police, and yes, it also has to eat

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Speaker 2: the blame for some of this shit.

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Speaker 2: they do it on purpose. They want the pies to

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Speaker 2: die with them. But here's the other part of my

439
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving theory. Your pie is somebody else's grandmama's pie.

440
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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

441
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 2: So your grandkids will be like, wow, Mack, couldn't nobody

442
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: make a pie like my granny?

443
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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. And then you'll pass on.

444
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Speaker 2: You gonna lie, keep the recipes to yourself, and it's

445
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Speaker 2: just gonna keep having That's my Thanksgiving theory. Okay, I'm sorry.

446
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I disagree with you, Karen.

447
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 2: I know you know I didn't mean to shut it down,

448
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: but I just know Grandma's be doing a lot of

449
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Speaker 2: ship man so.

450
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Speaker 1: Mm mm hmmmm. Anyway, that's my that's my conspiracy for Thanksgiving. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 1: no probing.

452
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Speaker 3: And I guess my thing is when I was talking

453
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Speaker 3: about like a lot of my family worked on farms,

454
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Speaker 3: so it's not like they was not working.

455
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Speaker 1: They worked on the farm. So you know, it's just

456
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Speaker 1: harder than what we do now.

457
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Speaker 3: We some bitches that, yes, yes I am. I am

458
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Speaker 3: a puck ass bitch because I'm not doing that ship We.

459
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Speaker 2: Are not even close to them. We're not touching their

460
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Speaker 2: hens at all. They are here like, oh you know,

461
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Speaker 2: I like to make my flower by hand.

462
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Speaker 1: It's like, nigga, what what the what? Who's done how?

463
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Speaker 2: I'm definitely not waking up at fucking four am on

464
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving to start the turkey.

465
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing it.

466
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Speaker 3: And some of them have Thanksgiving, you know, you get

467
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Speaker 3: some some some real body abouties.

468
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Speaker 1: It's Thanksgiving week. Some of them.

469
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Speaker 3: Already started cooking for Thanksgiving already, like they literally cooked

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Speaker 3: the entire week.

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Speaker 2: I'm not waking up on Monday making macaroni and cheese

472
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Speaker 2: and then on Thursday I got a rewoman in the

473
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Speaker 2: oven at fucking three hundred degrees for forty five minutes

474
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Speaker 2: or whatever. I am not doing it.

475
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Speaker 3: I'm not about that life.

476
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Speaker 1: They was just on some other shit.

477
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Speaker 2: If we're never going to get it, and they probably

478
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Speaker 2: take a little short cousin sprinkled like cocaine and the

479
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: dressing and some shit will we will never know that.

480
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Speaker 2: That's the reason we love that dressing high as hell

481
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Speaker 2: off a cocaine.

482
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Speaker 3: Come on, because I am not about that life. I

483
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Speaker 3: absolutely do not care enough. Nigga is chromed, so as

484
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Speaker 3: long as it's chrumbs, it don't matter if you know

485
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Speaker 3: how nobody made it.

486
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Speaker 2: Like oh yeah, I'm sprinkle some marijuana and this motherfucking pumpkin.

487
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Speaker 1: This peach cobbler, and we be like, man, can't nobody

488
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Speaker 1: make peach cobbler?

489
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Speaker 2: Like Grandmama put you on the couch and be sleeping

490
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Speaker 2: watching the Cowboys game, giggling. It's like, yeah, you are

491
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Speaker 2: high as hell. They never gonna tell you the secrets.

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Speaker 2: Kem Doc says, I love punkin pile like sweet potato pie.

493
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Speaker 2: I'll knock both out the part where I'll do respect.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, Mark Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think for me because I was raised

496
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Speaker 3: on sweet potato pie, I would get mad when I

497
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Speaker 3: when I because now I know the color because it

498
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Speaker 3: is a color difference between it. But when I was

499
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Speaker 3: a kid, I didn't know the color difference. So I

500
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Speaker 3: would be like, oh, oh, yeah, this is a sweet

501
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Speaker 3: potato pie. And I tasted this pumpkin, and then I'm

502
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Speaker 3: mad because I didn't want no pumpkin.

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Speaker 1: Right, let's see. The next one was Sunday Civics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a punkin pie is basically the oatmeal raisin cookies

505
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: of pies. You know, y'all put a label on that ship.

506
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Speaker 2: It's not that nobody wants to eat that. But let's

507
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Speaker 2: be frank. When you got your mouth set up for

508
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: chocolate chip, right and yeah, and your and your bite

509
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: into some raisins and some oatmeal, it'll make you want

510
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Speaker 2: to murder somebody.

511
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Speaker 1: It'll make you mad. And that has happened to me

512
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Speaker 1: more than once.

513
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Speaker 3: So I started learning the color difference because I used

514
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Speaker 3: to be mad.

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, So you just casually pick up the

516
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Speaker 2: cookie because.

517
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Speaker 1: That's the assumption, you know. So yeah, and I think

518
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Speaker 1: it is. If you love oatmeal raisin cookies, nobody's knocking

519
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: that I like. I like them as what. I just

520
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: need to know that's what the fuck I'm getting right.

521
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Speaker 3: So then if I'm in the mood for it, I

522
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 3: can get it.

523
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Speaker 2: You never randomly spring that shit on nobody. And that's

524
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Speaker 2: what happened with pumpkin pie. It looked like sweet potato,

525
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: and fucking top you off a peas you start eating

526
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Speaker 2: in the Instead of going, I have a delicious appreciation

527
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Speaker 2: for pumpkin, you go, uh, what the fuck this ain't

528
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Speaker 2: sweet potato.

529
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Speaker 3: And that's most people's immediate response, and then they get

530
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Speaker 3: cussed out cause niggas be like, you should have told

531
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Speaker 3: me this was pumpkin.

532
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Whenever I make that point, people always poky, but uh,

533
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: oatmeal raisin is delicious.

534
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Speaker 1: I agree, nigga, I'm obviously eating them. Me, dude, what

535
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Speaker 1: the fuck I mean? Come on, man, It's just I

536
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: need to know. It's like, uh, you.

537
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Speaker 2: Know, you know, it's like in PROMPTU ain'tal sex. You

538
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: got to tell somebody what you're doing. You can't just

539
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: spring that on somebody.

540
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Speaker 3: You can't.

541
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

542
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: Sunday Civics episode two, our girl el Joy was on

543
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: Political Strategist Shannon Right saying, Hey, Rdan and Karen loved

544
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: this episode and it was great to hear el Joy

545
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: Williams political Strategists again. I really appreciate when she said,

546
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Speaker 2: is this person feeding me or I'm feeding their analytics?

547
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: That was a quick moment, but so powerful. Especially on Twitter.

548
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: I've started the screenshot tweets that I know people just

549
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: want to use to start controversy or up their engagement.

550
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to contribute to your quote tweets or retweets,

551
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 2: and even for folks I mostly agree with, I've been

552
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: taking time to take inventory and see if they're really

553
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: deserving of that follow My blockhand can be strong on occasion, but.

554
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Speaker 1: It's very necessary. Anyway, I just wanted to comment.

555
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: I was on vacation, so I'm getting caught up on

556
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: podcasts and I love catching up with y'all.

557
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: You can let Spotify know that I'm on the app

558
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: just for y'all. Peace.

559
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, they a lot, We're getting a lot of we

560
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm on this app just for y'all. For me, I've

561
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: just actually been moving all my podcasts over to Spotify.

562
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: Pretty much listened almost exclusively on Spotify now just to

563
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: kind of get used to the app and stuff. And

564
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: you know, I know that the podcast part of it

565
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: still as a ways to go to match some some

566
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: of the other podcast things that's obviously beyond our scope

567
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: and our control, and some of that stuff is intentional,

568
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: like you know, like when we talk to them about

569
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Speaker 2: certain issues, say like, nah, we want people to go

570
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Speaker 2: to the site to do this.

571
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Speaker 1: We want people to be able to click on this

572
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 1: and get this, so you know, but.

573
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate y'all coming over there and giving it

574
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Speaker 2: a shot for us. Kim Doc says, I thoroughly enjoyed

575
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Speaker 2: the discourse on this episode. Made me subscribe to their

576
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: podcast as I take my victory lap around the pot spirit.

577
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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed all the celebratory episodes folks had with

578
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Speaker 2: a time listen to Sunday Civics and Ride on three

579
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Speaker 2: Guys on when the race was called? Was has brought

580
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Speaker 2: last and true joy back to the moment. Well, I'm

581
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Speaker 2: glad because I know she wrote Kim Doc had wrote

582
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Speaker 2: in to say, you know, she was kind of just

583
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Speaker 2: nervous and sad and you know, her job was on

584
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Speaker 2: the line and this shit, and I totally understand that,

585
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: but no, I'm glad that she may never find some

586
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: joy in this shit because this dude is still gonna

587
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: act like a whole ass bitch on the way out

588
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: and we're gonna have to like drag his motherfucking ass

589
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: out of there.

590
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Speaker 1: But you know, my point is he not going easily.

591
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Speaker 2: So you know, I think already the Biden campaign has

592
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: basically had to switch to fundraising for the transition team

593
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: because the Trump administration will not cooperate with it. And

594
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: fucking liberals were dunking on the tweet from Body that

595
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: was like, we need money for the transition and they

596
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: were like, oh.

597
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Speaker 1: Fuck you you want more money really?

598
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, number one, this is what the fuck

599
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 2: we said we wanted, right.

600
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Speaker 1: We don't want.

601
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: Big donors coming in and buying up his campaign and

602
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: we want little people. We want five dollars, ten dollars, fifteen,

603
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: five dollars donations.

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00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: That's what we want to be our voice is heard, right,

605
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: So that's number one.

606
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: Number two, you know, the only reason you gotta do

607
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: this because Trump is cooperating, which definitely is not Biden's fault.

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00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: There's nothing he can do right now to make this

609
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: motherfucker do that.

610
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: Right, which means he would have already had the fund to.

611
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: Do what he wants to do right.

612
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: And then the other part is, and this is it'll

613
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: sound unrelated, but it's not unrelated in my brain.

614
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: But take it however you take it.

615
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: They raised two million dollars to get Kyle Rittenhouse out

616
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: of the motherfucking jail, the dude, the boy that went

617
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: to U like Wisconsin and shot up some people went

618
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: in there with guns, you know what I'm saying, and

619
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: shot up people at the Black Lives Matter protest. They

620
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: raised two million dollars to get him out. And here

621
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: we are outside bitched about the transition of power in

622
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Speaker 2: the fucking country, something.

623
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Speaker 1: We definitely want to go good. You know, many people blame,

624
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, the hold up with Gore Bush and the

625
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Speaker 1: litigation for the reason that part of the reason that

626
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Speaker 1: nine to.

627
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Speaker 2: Eleven happened, because it's just a lack of communication between

628
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: agencies during that time. If you're not on the same page,

629
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: if you're not having these meetings, if you're not talking to.

630
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: These folks, you're leaving room open for the security of

631
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: the nation to be had. Hey, he don't give a fuck.

632
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like this, This is what I was talking about

633
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: when I said, when Biden wins, it's still a fight.

634
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: And I don't just mean a fight of just a

635
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: nigga better not a point no moderates like no, I

636
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: mean a fucking fight for the soul.

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Speaker 1: Of the country. Anyway. I'm gonna give my money fuck that.

638
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: We need to win the poe. Do you think, oh,

639
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: this is apropos. Do you think Trump will ever concede? No? Yes, no,

640
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: he already conceded before y'all read the pole result. Now,

641
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: this is what's interesting. I agree with Karen says no.

642
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: Eighty sevenercent artist says no, Okay, I say yes, eight percent,

643
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: which but I.

644
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: Mean it'll probably be January twentieth, Okay, I don't know.

645
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: January twenty first, he gonna concede as he gets into helicopter,

646
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: like fuck it.

647
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: But January twenty fifth, hen, yeah, January.

648
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Twenty fifth, he will con see. Okay, here's the thing.

649
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: Okay, five percent of the pole said he already conceded

650
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: before y'all read.

651
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: This pole result. That's not a true statement. How do

652
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: you listen to our show. I guess they was hoping, Yeah, like,

653
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? That's a that's a thing. That's

654
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you.

655
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: Your niggas's crazy.

656
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Speaker 1: That's either a factual thing. That's wrong with you, wrong

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Speaker 1: with y'all a crazy, it's a factual thing. It either

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Speaker 1: happened or didn't right, What the fuck anyway, Blue Raye.

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Speaker 2: Rodders says, back in twenty sixteen, you said we would

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Speaker 2: get the government we deserved. Trump came in to door

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Speaker 2: a line, stealing and so on, discontented division. Now he's

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Speaker 2: trying to undermine our faith in the Republic. On his

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Speaker 2: way out, Trump could make a mess so big that

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Speaker 2: Biden harrispent most of all their first term, pulled it

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Speaker 2: out fires.

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Speaker 1: And that's the whole purpose, that's the whole reason why

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Speaker 1: he's showing his ass.

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Speaker 2: Then, in the run up to twenty twenty four, Trump

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Speaker 2: or some other Republicans claim that Biden Harrison ineffected during

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Speaker 2: their first time. Even more shocking, career Republicans who know

671
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Speaker 2: better are willing to co sign Trump's bullshit, and these

672
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Speaker 2: low information literate voters will signal boost these lines instead

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Speaker 2: of opening up goddamn book kim Doc says he won't

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Speaker 2: can see. He don't give a fuck. He can suck it.

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Speaker 1: We a lot of you can too.

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Speaker 2: Don Junior got COVID. They need to take a poll

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Speaker 2: or who among them didn't get COVID? Deplorable to speakable?

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Speaker 2: Oh and if they don't like it, they can go

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Speaker 2: back to where they came from. Lakeitha says, I don't

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Speaker 2: think he'll can see good thing.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Yeah, I mean, y'all probably right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I just feel like this niggag

683
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Speaker 2: can see right after we don't give a fuck. Soon

684
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: there's a sou say like fundraising for these stupid ass

685
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Speaker 2: lawsuits is over.

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Speaker 1: You know what, y'all got it. I'm on head on out.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: He not gonna show up for the inauguration. That shit,

689
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Speaker 3: he's gonna shoot you three days later. He's gonna be like, well,

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna leave DC before the inauguration. Oh

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Speaker 2: he's not going right like so that he don't gotta

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Speaker 2: be there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gives zero fuck?

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Speaker 1: What about that?

696
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 3: Man has shown that he cares about normal?

697
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Speaker 1: What him?

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Speaker 2: What did he leave before the inauguration? Like he take

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Speaker 2: a trip out of town, and then once I didn't

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Speaker 2: them move into the White House.

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Speaker 1: This nigga just come.

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Speaker 2: Back like three days later, like trying to use the

703
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Speaker 2: kid in the door, Like what what the fuck is

704
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: going on around here? A brother can't go play some golf?

705
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Speaker 2: Can without y'ad trying to move into the over office.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say. I didn't can see nothing.

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Speaker 3: He don't get mad showing up places and they gonna

708
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Speaker 3: be like, no, sir, you can't come in here.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be he gonna be at the press conference.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be sitting like like Nina Turner gonna be

711
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Speaker 2: going out there, but did Kelly mcinnina gonna be coming

712
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: out behind her? Like, well is my what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm addressing the press? No excuse me, it is my turn.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you got security.

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Speaker 1: Why y'all griving me?

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Speaker 2: Episode twenty two twenty three Waste of Whiteness twenty two

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Ms.

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Speaker 2: Mary Smile says, again, there are some things you say

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Speaker 2: that I pop up and I'm like, how did they

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Speaker 2: get in my head? Your discussion about Tony Morrison described

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Speaker 2: my feelings about her exactly I discovered her in an

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Speaker 2: African American women's class in college, and when I read

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Speaker 2: Through The.

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Speaker 1: Bluest Eye, my mom was blown. I loved reading as

726
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Speaker 1: a child.

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Speaker 2: My dad took me and my sisters to the library

728
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Speaker 2: every Saturday and I would check out the maximum of

729
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Speaker 2: ten books each time. College kind of killed that love

730
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Speaker 2: with the mandatory reading, and I'm trying to get back

731
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Speaker 2: to reading for pleasure. I think the access to cable

732
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Speaker 2: and streaming TV and social media has had a real

733
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Speaker 2: negative impact on my allotting time to it as well.

734
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Speaker 2: But as I'm getting older, I want to maintain my

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Speaker 2: language and writing skills. So I'm really I really want

736
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Speaker 2: to focus on this. Well, dope, I know you can

737
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Speaker 2: do it, So it's just a matter of setting aside

738
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Speaker 2: the time. And remember you're an a dope. You make

739
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Speaker 2: your own schedule. Nobody can force you to read. And

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Speaker 2: I think once you start reading things, you see like

741
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Speaker 2: how entertaining they can be and how fun it can

742
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Speaker 2: be because you're getting to pick the books.

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Speaker 1: They're not being assigned to you no one.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you just like, hey, I don't care

745
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: what you read, so it's not you know, it's not

746
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: like hey, I'm gonna need you to read, uh the

747
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Speaker 2: History of Law and Black People about three o'clock tonight.

748
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Speaker 1: Like no, if you just want to read some comedy,

749
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Speaker 1: some some science fiction, if you want to read whatever

750
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: you want to read. Dog is out there. And I

751
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: followed this account on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Man, I don't want to say their own name, but

753
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: it's for like black authors and it lets you know,

754
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: like when they have like uh sell and stuff like

755
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: that on different books and stuff like that, and I

756
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Speaker 2: love their I love their.

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Speaker 1: The Twitter account.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I can't find it right now,

759
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: but but yeah, I love that Twitter account because of that.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I suggest you, uh, you know, you

761
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: check that kind of stuff out man. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of resources. Hi, Rod and Karen, if you read this

763
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Speaker 2: on air, just call me Ray from a or Ray.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but something happened this week where

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00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: three or four people rot there maybe even more in

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Speaker 2: a row, and it was all like, don't say my

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Speaker 2: name on the show.

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Speaker 1: Now. I don't mind.

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Speaker 2: One of them said, don't say my name because I

770
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: always pronounced it wrong, which, honestly, have you.

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Speaker 1: No faith in me?

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Speaker 2: My brother can't try and get better, Okay, but it

773
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Speaker 2: was like, are we your shameful side chick podcasts?

774
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Speaker 3: You don't want to claim us?

775
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: Is that what you're trying to tell us, John Gray?

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Speaker 3: We're not giving all your information a way.

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Speaker 2: Y'all want us to meet you on the private jet

778
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Speaker 2: now Throng bikinis so we can go to the beach,

779
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: but you.

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Speaker 1: Won't claim us in public. Don't want to claim us.

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Speaker 2: You just right in to tell us how your other

782
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Speaker 2: podcasts don't it cooked pizza and don't make food at

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Speaker 2: home for the baby every week.

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Speaker 1: I'm a damn shame. This is an emotional affair.

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Speaker 2: The first episode I listened to was a your recap

786
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: of the finale of Lovecraft Country, and I loved how

787
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 2: deeply y'all analyzed episode to point it out all the

788
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: ties to brief scenes for other episodes. I just want

789
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: to and I had just watched the finale the night before,

790
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: and your recap made me go back and watch it again.

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Speaker 2: On your Monday episode, I just wanted to add two

792
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: quick thoughts. One, I'm with you on reading Roding that

793
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 2: I love to read, but I also feel bad about

794
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: how little time I've made in my life to read

795
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: more than I currently do with your words of encouragement.

796
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to try again and maybe finally read this

797
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: book about a year ago shout out to that. I know, Hey, listen,

798
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: the book's gonna be sitting there, so you might as

799
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Speaker 2: well read them.

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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

801
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: They already on your candle, They are already on your shelf.

802
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 2: You might as well crack it open.

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00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: It might be good.

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00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: Two on the GOP attempts to overturn the election. They

805
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: all know it's not going to work. What they are

806
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: really telling us is that and the next time that

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Speaker 2: there's a close election, they will cheat to win it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's so funny about this election. It ain't

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Speaker 1: even close. Like that's what's so funny. Like by is

810
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Speaker 1: there like seventy nine million now, Like it's not even closed.

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Speaker 2: I told everybody just wait on the final tallies, which

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Speaker 2: I think they may still be counter voes, who knows.

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Speaker 2: But I was like, yeah, it's not closed. Everybody's okay,

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Speaker 2: I believe it's so close. That's because you bought into

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Speaker 2: this idea that it was gonna be a like, oh,

816
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: only like thirty million people gonna vote for Trump. They're

817
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: so ashamed, like no happening.

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00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: I see them rallies. That is all.

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00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: Everything they are doing is about. This is a practice

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Speaker 2: run for twenty twenty two or twenty twenty four. Maybe

821
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Speaker 2: thank you guys for your great show. Keep up the

822
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: great work right from the A to oh four. Maybe man,

823
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 2: I think these lawsuits are so frivolous that I don't

824
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: even know that they're a practice run.

825
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Speaker 1: That's how bad they are.

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Speaker 2: Like, this isn't even I don't even know what this

827
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: would be practiced for. The lawsuits are literally that fucking frivolous,

828
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: Like they're being thrown out immediately. It seemed like a

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Speaker 2: practice for raising some money. Hi, Rod and Karen just

830
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Speaker 2: wanted to say, I'm a new listener, but by Thanksgiving,

831
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Speaker 2: I've been listening for a year, so I guess that

832
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: would be a lot. Also, congrats on making that Spotify money.

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Speaker 1: Moving on up.

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Speaker 2: I found out about you guys when visiting my cousin

835
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: at Korea. She listening to y'all every morning before work.

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Speaker 1: I'll shout out to Korea.

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Speaker 2: I've been wanting to write, Oh, that must be South

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Speaker 2: Korea too, Ah, girl, what's it life?

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Speaker 1: What's it like for your cousin?

840
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Speaker 3: They must be going to movies, oh, restaurants, went outside

841
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: and shit.

842
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: Anyway, I've been wanting to write in for a while,

843
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: but was never sure what to say. A lot of

844
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: old topics you guys discussed are insightful and make me

845
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: wonder about my own thinking and how I perceee the world.

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00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: Even if my mind isn't changed by some things, I

847
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: do like to see how y'all see certain issues. Also,

848
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: y'all are accurate with y'all so many things politically. When

849
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: I got tired of watching the news for my mental health,

850
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: y'all were the main source of political news besides online articles.

851
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm youngish mid twenties, so I don't know how things

852
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 2: have been going years before my birth when it comes

853
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 2: to politics, other than that the Republicans aren't for us

854
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: at whatever history was tied in school, or maybe I

855
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: just haven't paid attention until now. I also am glad

856
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: you talked about burning and AOC because I couldn't quite

857
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: put my finger on while I wasn't one hundred percent

858
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: on board their ideas, I hope could be implemented someday,

859
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: but I also see that a lot of things they

860
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: want to do are to radical for a majority of

861
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party also have been trying to tell from

862
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: the comment I think Rod said about third parties need

863
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: to start now and take the off years to bill traction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, and they never do it in

865
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 3: the next show up and then mad because nobody pays

866
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 3: them attention. Where's your foundation, where's your roots? Why don't

867
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: you out here hitting the pavement and telling people and

868
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 3: and doing shit like that, Like it's gonna take a while.

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Speaker 3: But if you're serious, That's why I will never take

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00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 3: them seriously, because if you serious, we should not We

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00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 3: should be seeing you the two's and the three years.

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00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: We shouldn't only see you every fold. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At this point, man, it's really and I don't want

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00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: it to be this way, by the way, but at

875
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Speaker 2: this point, it is literally throwing your vote away. Unless

876
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: you live in a jurisdiction where the third party people

877
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: have a chance of winning or they do run and

878
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: they do have a ground game that that happens in

879
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: certain places in the same place, but.

880
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: It's very local. But nationally it's literally just throwing your

881
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: fucking vote away.

882
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, and it's partially because they make sure

883
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, because they only run as a spoiler

884
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: and mostly just a fuller of the Democratic Party, not

885
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: even not even though the Republican Party. It's just the

886
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: Democrats out the problem. Let's help Republicans win by voting

887
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 2: for me. I noticed with the Bernie Bros. They still

888
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: think it would just happen someday despite me telling them this,

889
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: and I often wonder if there are a lost calls,

890
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: much like black people voting for Trump this current election.

891
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think many of them are.

892
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: Some of them came back this year because they were

893
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: scared of Trump at the living through four years of

894
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 2: what they wanted.

895
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, could they asks for it?

896
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: But what inspired me to write you this week, of

897
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: all weeks was an episode waste of whiteness. So y'all

898
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: discussed reading. In college, I major in English and was

899
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: introduced to many authors. World literature was my favorite, but

900
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: also I liked when in American literature we would focus

901
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: on black authors.

902
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: It was amazing how much I didn't even know when

903
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know, even.

904
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 2: With my parents having us grow up reading and reading

905
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: about black history primarily and even not counting black literature.

906
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: My mom had us read a lot in the summer

907
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: months since she was an English teacher and knew it

908
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: was important.

909
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: It helps with spelling, grammar, and general understanding.

910
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 2: Like Rod said, even if you pronounce a word wrong,

911
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: you know the word and the context it's used. What

912
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say is I used to love reading,

913
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: but now at the college, I feel burnt out. Since

914
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: we were just about trained to read and analyze everything,

915
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: my drive to read for pleasure went down, and I

916
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 2: usually opt for web tunes these days if I read anything.

917
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: So I like how Riod suggested reading a little at

918
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: a time. A lot of what y'all described, I.

919
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: Similarly feel can't focus.

920
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: Feel like I could read a novel easily in a

921
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: few days at one time, so I should be easy

922
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 2: to jump it should be easy to jump back in.

923
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: But now even small books seem daunting. But I like

924
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: the idea of having set five to ten minutes a

925
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: day and hopefully grow from there. So far, I started

926
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: on Tuesday and it's working for me. Also, it's crazy

927
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: y'all talked about reading because my co worker as a

928
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: podcast about.

929
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: Reviewing books and wanted me to come on.

930
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: So I hope reading small portions of books first can

931
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: inspire me to stay on track. Rereading the book, I

932
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: would recommend we review, and also that I find love

933
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: for reading again. I just wanted to say, it's funny

934
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: how timely it was said, you guys happen to talk

935
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: about reading. Oh, thank you, you know, And honestly, what's

936
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 2: funny is that that is what I did to start

937
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: reading again was literally okay, five minutes, you know, I

938
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: miss it now and hopefully we get this back at

939
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: some point. But I used to go to restaurants by myself,

940
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: sometimes sometimes with Karen.

941
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 1: But it's a lot harder with Karen because she don't

942
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: really care what I'm doing. But I'm outside, it's all right.

943
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: But I would go to a restaurant by myself. I

944
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: would put my headphones in. I have a list of

945
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: like some playlists I have on Spotify that are just

946
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: either instrumental or jazz or like coffee coffee shop tunes

947
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: or whatever. I'll put my headphones in, you know, order

948
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: like you know, a coffee and a sandwich or something like.

949
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: That, and open up my kindle and I just read,

950
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, and.

951
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 2: Other than the occasional interruption by like a waiter or something,

952
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: just making sure you're good, you know, for the most part,

953
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: it was just a good way to get a few

954
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 2: pages in, and I just never I just stopped feeling

955
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: disappointed in myself for not reading a lot or reading

956
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: a long for long periods of time, and I.

957
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: Noticed I started getting more able to read longer.

958
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: Periods of time, to the point where you know, I could.

959
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: And I still don't measure myself. So sometimes I'm just

960
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: reading and I had an hour and I look up

961
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh shit, I read an hour. I

962
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: didn't even think I would. I didn't sit down with

963
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: that on purpose. And sometimes I read still five minutes,

964
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: you know, ten minutes. Another thing that help was on

965
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: the kindle app on my tablet. It had like these

966
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: little streaks and it would be like, you were at

967
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: this mean you were at every day for this week,

968
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: and they're seeing a little bad or something, or hey,

969
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: you read every day this month. Hey look at how

970
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 2: you're reading compares to the last moa. And those little

971
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: things kind of got me on the path. And now

972
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't care because I don't even check that shit.

973
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, we're a doupe. So when we

974
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 2: make our own schedule, we don't have to read for

975
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: assignment anymore.

976
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: No, no teacher's gonna grade us. You know, there's nothing

977
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: fun of grayy.

978
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: I also am late, but wanted to add that I

979
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 2: love the love Craft Country recaps, y'all.

980
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: Did I remember?

981
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: Once I watched it and then I listened, I got

982
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 2: a lot more out of it. Like the conversation about

983
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: Martin Luther King Jr. During the show I missed. But

984
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: I also didn't know about the relationship he had with

985
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: a white woman m I didn't.

986
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: They ain't teach that at my school too.

987
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: Also the breakdown of the song why He's on the Moon,

988
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: and other little details about the show. In general, I'm

989
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: recommending friends not only watch the show where they listen

990
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: to y'all's recaps too. Anyway, hope this isn't too long,

991
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: and I apologize for any spelling or grammar mistakes.

992
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: It's one am. But as my grandpa would say, y'all

993
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: go out there and make that big money. Please don't

994
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: say my name. See you see what I'm saying that

995
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: lovely letters. Don't say my name, niggas. Okay, that's enough.

996
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: I like you, but I don't want to with you.

997
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to claim you in public.

998
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: I feel like someone Else's Listeners podcast. They saw us

999
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: hold a hand and you slap my hand away in public.

1000
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: You say, oh no, I'm not with them. Falcon Steve says,

1001
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: I love this discussion about reading. I used to read

1002
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: a lot for pleasure. It was my escape when I

1003
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 2: was young. When I would get sent to my room

1004
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: on punishment, I would get lost in the book. Same

1005
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: It's a shame that my grandmother had to take away

1006
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: my books to punish me.

1007
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: My parents never did that. I get it now. They

1008
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: wasn't slick like this nigga and here reading NERD.

1009
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: But after my MBA program, I got away from reading books.

1010
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: I guess I got burnt out, and as I was

1011
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: thinking of my goals for twenty twenty one, wanted them

1012
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: to get back to reading. I'm dedicated to reading one

1013
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: book for a month. Honestly, I don't have to buy

1014
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: any because I'm always buying books to support people, and

1015
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: I'm sure I have at least twelve that I haven't read. Yeah, yeah,

1016
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: I guess the COVID tests are different because when I

1017
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 2: got my latest it was the same.

1018
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: Swath for both noses.

1019
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: I don't remember if it was the same for my

1020
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: other tests because they administered it, and my scary ass

1021
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: had my eyes closed gripping my steering wheel. But the

1022
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: most recent one and I had to do. I stuck

1023
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: that thing up my nose for like two seconds. The

1024
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: lady was like, you gotta do it for ten seconds.

1025
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: Then I suffered through that and she told me that

1026
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: the other to get the other nostril. I don't see

1027
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: how badude got it in one nose got the rich

1028
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: people test.

1029
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: Finally, I love it. I love it when y'all have

1030
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: to get to the end of.

1031
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: The show to figure out the show title. Oh yeah,

1032
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: waste of whiteness. That was very close to the end.

1033
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: Evie says, I absolutely love reading. I was the type

1034
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 2: of person who would read the back of the cereal

1035
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: box and random labels. My mom was an avid reader

1036
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: and she took me to the library every week, so

1037
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: while she was checking out checking out.

1038
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: Her books, I would check out Goosebumps and kids books.

1039
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: O Goosebumps.

1040
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: I used to read all that shit too, uh with

1041
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: the sidewalk was the sidewalk ends or some shit.

1042
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: And fucking uh man.

1043
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: I used to the one about the mouse at the

1044
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: fucking car, like Stuart the Mouse or whatever.

1045
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: Fuck that little Stewart.

1046
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: I used to read about that, used to read us

1047
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: so much bullshit Encyclopedia Brown books.

1048
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: Those are like top selling kids books.

1049
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: I know, But when I was a kid, I boy,

1050
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: you could not tell me that was like the better

1051
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: than the New Jordan's.

1052
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: But then you used to used to have used to

1053
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: ball like the Scholastic Book Club.

1054
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like the New Shells Civil see out.

1055
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: Oh y'all niggas don't know about this. Y'all don't even

1056
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: know about this.

1057
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: They like, shut up, nerd.

1058
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 3: Uh, why are you coming out here with five books

1059
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 3: as I?

1060
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: Oh the Babysitters Club, see y'all, motherfuckers ain't ready, y'all

1061
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: ain't ready. And you've been on read that before they

1062
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: before school let out. And as I got older, I

1063
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: fell in love with romance books. I got teased a

1064
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: lot for reading them on the on the bus, But

1065
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: some of those saying people teasing me were reading them too.

1066
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: They just had more fucks to give than I did.

1067
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: I still love reading. It's funny because people will be like,

1068
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: you're a nerd for reading.

1069
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: But then like I remember when Choojon adventure books came out,

1070
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: all the kids was trying to get into reading. I'm like,

1071
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: did y'all falling for it? And I used to trick

1072
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: choose y'all adventure because I just I used to do that.

1073
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: I got completion this gene, so I would book.

1074
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: I would like fold the paper at the place I

1075
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: made the.

1076
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: Decision, read, read what the one decision was, come back,

1077
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: and then do the other one, so I know both ways.

1078
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: Malti says this was a terrific episode, and yes, the

1079
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: discussion about personal relationships with reading was great. Evidence by

1080
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: the great comments of the listeners have already left the

1081
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: blackout tips community is so smart. One thing I'll add

1082
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: is that it was lovely to hear Rod encourage Karen

1083
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: to change what she might have seen as a lost

1084
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: cause in regards to reading for pleasure. I love hearing

1085
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: Rod gently push Karen, and I love hearing Karen except

1086
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: to really hear what Rob was saying.

1087
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: It was the most loving thing love I was.

1088
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: I was excited to hear this because just a few

1089
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: days prior, I literally was thinking, how do I tactfully

1090
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: ask Karen how she feels about Rod being such a

1091
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,479
Speaker 2: prolific reader. And I know she said in the past

1092
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: that's not her, so I often lamit having lost my

1093
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: love and passion for reading. It's dwindled like thin and

1094
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: hair over the past few decades, and.

1095
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: I do grieve it. I suppose, I suppose I feel

1096
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: I'll never get.

1097
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 2: It back, But that is me giving up. This conversation

1098
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: helped me to stop and think I could change that.

1099
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: It is a choice. Love y'all. Monica. Ps.

1100
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: I keep following behind on episodes because the twenty twenty

1101
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: is ringing me out like a dirty mop. But I'm

1102
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: so thankful you always here now Spotify for me to

1103
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: escape into tip Landia.

1104
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know.

1105
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: It's also interesting during the pandemic, we haven't taken a

1106
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: lot of breaks, so that's another reason people are getting

1107
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: more behind on the shel than normal.

1108
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: And yes we will. The breaks will return.

1109
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: The breaks will return because the pandemic ain't going nowhere,

1110
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 2: and weeks off will be nice, especially with my new

1111
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: Xbox series X.

1112
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: Okay, that baby needs love.

1113
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: Okay, and I need to spend some time getting to

1114
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: know my new baby. Okay, But uh yeah, I appreciate you. Uh,

1115
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm glad you enjoyed that conversation, and you know I'm

1116
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: not much of a pusher period. But you know, I

1117
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: think it's different to push somebody to do something they

1118
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: don't want to do and tell somebody like, hey.

1119
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: You can do this thing that you want to do

1120
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 3: right right, because yeah, yeah, Because the thing is everybody's

1121
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 3: personality is different, and I know my personality. I respond

1122
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 3: better to positive reinforcement than negative reinforcement. Oh if you

1123
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: negative reinforce me like my mom and them used to do,

1124
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: I'll shut down. And they never could understand why I

1125
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: didn't learn that until I became an adult. But yeah,

1126
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 3: because I know my mama and them used to really

1127
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: really really get on me about weight when I was

1128
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: a kid.

1129
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: And so instead of her, you know.

1130
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: Encouraging, you know, come on, let's excess, let's do shit together,

1131
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 3: it was why you fat while you keep feeling your face?

1132
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, fuck you. Then, bitch, I'm

1133
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: not doing a goddamn thing.

1134
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: Then, since you want to point it out, you're just

1135
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: gonna watch me spread.

1136
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: And my thing is that I wouldn't even label myself

1137
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: a prolific reader, you know what I mean? I really

1138
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: still read pretty slow. And you know, I just made

1139
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: a goal this time. That's really what I would say,

1140
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: because I didn't read for years. I didn't read books

1141
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: for years.

1142
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: There's like.

1143
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: At least a ten year period where I was just like,

1144
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't read books, you know what I mean. So

1145
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: I'm just glad to be maybe even longer than ten years.

1146
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm just but I was like, I can change that.

1147
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: So I was really just telling caring the advice I

1148
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: gave myself like it wasn't you know, it wasn't even.

1149
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: Like, oh, you should do this. It was like, no,

1150
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: this is what I did. Maybe it'll help you, maybe

1151
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: it won't.

1152
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because and I know, for me, the thing, particularly

1153
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: after I graduated from college, I didn't read that I

1154
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: didn't read that much at all for enjoyment, pleasure or anything.

1155
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1156
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: If I did, you know, read things, it wouldn't be

1157
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: for longer extensive.

1158
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: Periods of time.

1159
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: And I know the thing that really got me and

1160
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: kind of jump started my reading was reading comic books

1161
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 3: to Powerpuff Girls. I remember we went to what's it once? Say,

1162
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: books and million bonds and Nobles one of them, I

1163
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: wont to say books a million, which no longer exists,

1164
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: and they used to have like the old school comic

1165
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: book rats and Roger loved com books. He loved combooks

1166
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 3: for years and I used to go to the comic

1167
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 3: book store and stuff with him, but I would never

1168
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: read the comic books. But this particular time, I actually

1169
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 3: loved the Powerpuff Girls.

1170
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: So I seen it.

1171
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: They had like a Powerpuff comic book like issue number one,

1172
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: and I actually got back into reading like that for

1173
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 3: me personally.

1174
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember that was, you know, because I

1175
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: was like, you don't read comic books and she's like, no,

1176
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: is that? And I was like, well, you just need

1177
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: to find one that's into the things you're into and

1178
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: then start from there and you might like reading them.

1179
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: But it's just a matter of it's like, I know

1180
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: you like Powerpuff Girls, Let's start with Powerpuff Girls.

1181
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: They got Powerpuff Girl comics. They maybe you'll like it.

1182
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: And you know, eventually I was, you know, spending all

1183
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: this damn money on Powerpuff Girl comics.

1184
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: Yes, you was. I was like, buy them, oh, new

1185
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: edition next month, let's go. The poem was do you

1186
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: read for pleasure? Yes or no?

1187
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: Eighty one percent said yes, nineteen percent said no. And

1188
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 2: I guess, Karen, uh, you know, to be determined, yeah,

1189
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: to to.

1190
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: Be determined I'm actually reading in small doses now, Like

1191
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 3: I just say, I read until I get tired, you know,

1192
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: and if not, try fund out the paragraph and I stop.

1193
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: I just stopped like like like you know, because to me,

1194
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: I always felt that pressure to if I open it up,

1195
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: like okay, God, now I got to read to a

1196
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 3: good breaking point. I got to read to the end

1197
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: of the chapter. Like It's almost like I mentally defeated

1198
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 3: myself before even attempting to do it.

1199
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: So I was like, why even attempt to do it.

1200
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: When I know I'm not gonna actually get that far

1201
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: or either. I think the thing that kind of turned

1202
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 3: me off with reading all the society is more of

1203
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: reading comprehension, because particularly in college, I had to work

1204
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: really really, really really hard because I would read it

1205
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: and not remember it, and read it again and not

1206
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 3: remember it, and read it again and not remember what

1207
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: the fuck I read, and it just drove me up

1208
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 3: to goddamn walls that I could reach it and couldn't

1209
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: remember what I read, and so it literally just turned

1210
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 3: me off the reads.

1211
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: The funk I'm reading this for and I can't remember

1212
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: what I read?

1213
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: M Yeah, Well, like I said, we now have all

1214
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: these tools highlight stuff you can go on the Kindle

1215
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: just swipe back and forth.

1216
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: And also you're not being tested on this.

1217
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1218
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, reading for pleasure is different. I've noticed a lot

1219
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: of times you kind of compare it to school. But

1220
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: you know, I think reading for pleasure, which is what

1221
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: the po was about, is to me, that's different that

1222
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: and and and.

1223
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 3: That's true and and and so to me, I think

1224
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: reading for pleasure is a little different now than actually

1225
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 3: being forced to read. Like I said, I've always felt

1226
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: like I've never actually outside of school, I could have read,

1227
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: but because it was forced, it just turned me off

1228
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: to the whole concept all together, which isn't healthy. But

1229
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 3: when you don't have people around you kind of encourage

1230
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: you and pushing you into into reading type of thing,

1231
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 3: excuse mean, you have toenity to fall into that.

1232
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 1: And part of it, too, is on me, just laziness.

1233
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't want to read. What

1234
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: the fuck am I reading this?

1235
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: For it?

1236
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: No?

1237
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: This is stupid, Like I know well, I know well,

1238
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: I know you and the audience a lot of y'all

1239
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 2: are intrigued because the ship that I read on the

1240
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: shelf for reading rainbow is Oh my god, I'm so

1241
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: glad you you read this and dah dah dad. So

1242
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: it's obvious that there's books out there you would be

1243
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: interested in, Yes, because all have to. So it's just

1244
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: a matter of seeing it that way instead of seeing.

1245
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: It as like this reminds me of homework, Like, but

1246
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: it's not. You're adult.

1247
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want to do, yes, including

1248
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: you don't have to read. But you know, it's not homework.

1249
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: It's it's it's whatever you want it to be.

1250
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also I think too, my friend of mind.

1251
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: Has to change because a lot of it is just

1252
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: looking at reading in a different light will actually make

1253
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: you view it differently, and like, because they have to

1254
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 3: remind myself this is it's not homework. I'm not gonna

1255
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 3: get a grade. It's not an assignment. You know, I

1256
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 3: can read five minutes to stop and read five minutes

1257
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: more and stop like that.

1258
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: You know, because you know what people do.

1259
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: You spent hours and hours and hours scrolling Twitter and Facebook,

1260
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: which is reading hours, hours and hours reading people's thoughts

1261
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: that mostly have not been edited Peru's codified any type

1262
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 2: of like you just reading people's random bullshit all day.

1263
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: But then we'll turn we'll put our phone down and go,

1264
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: I don't read. It's like, well, you know you do read.

1265
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: You just you know, it's not that big a difference

1266
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: between flip turning from that app and just flipping on

1267
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: your kindle app and reading.

1268
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: That shit instead, you know, So it's just a mind switch.

1269
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: Kwon aka Harry Godzilla says, hey, y'all all, writing a

1270
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: response to ericabad test a positive on one nostril and

1271
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: negative and the other.

1272
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: The same thing happened to Elon Musk.

1273
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: He tweeted about it and got a response from an

1274
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: epidemiologist explaining that the rapid test trade speeds for sensitivity.

1275
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: So the test they are taking, uh take it got

1276
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 2: cut off? And did he never really and he never

1277
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: really finished his start.

1278
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 3: Uh.

1279
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: The thing for.

1280
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 2: The thing for that Elon was talking about, though, was different.

1281
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: He was saying he took Ford tests and got two

1282
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: different results from the four test. She said, literally one

1283
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: noster or the other nostri So I don't who knows,

1284
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: Dion said, or maybe he meant that too, I don't know.

1285
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 1: Dion says, yes, I enjoyed reading for pleasure, and science

1286
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: fiction is my usual preference.

1287
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: For the last few years, my bookshelf has shifted towards

1288
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: non fiction works about black feminism and black liberation as

1289
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: well as humanism. I shift back and forth from those

1290
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: genres and science based pieces. The year has been different, different,

1291
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: and I did This year has been different, and I

1292
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: didn't read as much as I wanted to.

1293
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: YO.

1294
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: The pandemic shut my reading down for a few months.

1295
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure other people went through that. I felt like

1296
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: I had reader's block, but that's okay.

1297
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: I made it a point to let my teen see

1298
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: me read and discuss things and learn with her.

1299
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: Hopefully she picks up the Good Habit Booklyn Shoe Base

1300
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: says there's a stereo type that being a librarian means

1301
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: you get to sit around and read books all day.

1302
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: It's actually to the contrary, we read about books more

1303
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: than we actually get to read books. I do have

1304
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: to read books for work sometimes, and that's when I

1305
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 2: have to present them to staff. Another way, librarians learned

1306
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: about books. The longer I've been a librarian fifteen years

1307
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: or less, books I read for pleasure. The availability of

1308
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: new titles are endless and overwhelms me. Finally, I have

1309
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: more media to inform you and entertain me podcast, YouTube,

1310
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: video essays, etc.

1311
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: So books have to fight for time in my brain.

1312
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: Although it is my favorite pastime.

1313
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: Audiobooks are my favorite way to consume books now because

1314
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: I commute by foot and subway and they occupy my mind.

1315
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: Yup counts to me. You know a lot of people too.

1316
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: A lot of people try to shit on the audiobooks.

1317
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: I'm like they still getting a knowledge in they range.

1318
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: I love your reading Rainbow segment because I get to

1319
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: hear from and about books that I haven't had a chance.

1320
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: To read sincerely. Booklet s you, babe, Thank you.

1321
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: Pamela says there's nothing more that a reader loves than

1322
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: sharing that love of reading with other readers. When y'all

1323
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: first started to reading Rainbow Segment, I was so excited

1324
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: and always recognize the raptlers, but will light up when

1325
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: I could recognize passages from books that I read.

1326
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: Yes, Karen, go ahead on your reading journey.

1327
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: It's so much fun and you can read as little

1328
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: or as much as you want to whenever, however and

1329
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: whatever read on the kindle when you can. It was

1330
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: always it will always remember where you're left off. Thank

1331
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: you both for your reflections on the subject matter. Yeah,

1332
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: readers are a very special bunch of people, man like,

1333
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: they very welcoming.

1334
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: You know.

1335
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 2: I think everyone always feels like people that read are

1336
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: judging them and shit, It's like, no, nigga, we want.

1337
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: You to be into this nerdy shit too that.

1338
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: No one else is doing, so we can talk about

1339
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: the nuances of it.

1340
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: That's why they all have book clubs. And yes, sir,

1341
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: all that shit. Episode twenty two, twenty four.

1342
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: Man thou art loose even, he says, I agree with you,

1343
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: rob men and gray sweatpants can't be taken seriously if

1344
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: they don't dress apart, what decent woman will want to

1345
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: be wife by these dudes flinging dick everywhere. Have some

1346
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: respect for yourselfs man, exactly, and agree on something, you know.

1347
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: Can men who are hose make good husbands? Is the pole?

1348
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Yes or no? Karen?

1349
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: Yes, Karen says men who I hose can make good husband.

1350
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: Twenty seven percent agree with that. Seventy three percent of

1351
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: us have some fucking sense. No, men who I hose

1352
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: cannot make good husbands. Lizabell says, some men do not

1353
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: walk in the spirit of a husband, so sad isn't

1354
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: It is so sad when you see them out here

1355
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: in these streets. He's like, Wow, soul bonds with all

1356
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: these people.

1357
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: Couldn't be me, hubby.

1358
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: Hole material rights. Hen, Wow, I've been touched. I felt

1359
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: like you were talking directly to me. Reverend Rod, I'm

1360
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: coming down for the altar call. Removed our great sweatpasts

1361
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 2: away from my chisel quarantine body.

1362
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: Immediately delete my ig thirst traps. Now I shall while

1363
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: I walk the spirit of a husband. Word to Lizzie,

1364
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: the dick that's owned.

1365
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: By a tall, dark, reasonably toxic brother will be removed

1366
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: from Wheville.

1367
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: I am delivered. Can men who are hoes make good husbands?

1368
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: Of course?

1369
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: Pit bulls could be good pets, they can't be a

1370
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: Why can't a whole be house trained?

1371
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the men try to tell you. That's

1372
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: what you still got some growing to do it.

1373
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, brother, you'll realize that you gotta stop

1374
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: walking that path. The lavender ceiling twenty two twenty five,

1375
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: we had a couple of comments. I'm an essential worker

1376
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: at one of my jobs. Overnight, I worked in a

1377
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: retail store stock in the shelves. When I got to work,

1378
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: they scan our badge and we are supposed to answer

1379
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: a verbal assessment to screen for any COVID symptoms in

1380
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: addition to taking our temperature, But sometimes they skip the

1381
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: assessment and answer the question for us as what also

1382
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: when they take out, because man, I.

1383
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: Look, we've been doing this shit all day gone and

1384
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: they're gone. And now also when they take our temperature,

1385
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: they don't tell us what it is. I mean, well

1386
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: that one not.

1387
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: That's not as bad for me that I mean, they

1388
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: could just be not telling your ass because like you,

1389
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: you qualified. One day, we were send an email at

1390
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: home to screen ourselves before we arrived to work.

1391
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: What I watched? I catch the jobs? Do that? How

1392
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: do you screen yourself? I catched the train, I catched

1393
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: the train to work.

1394
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 2: I developed a cough, so I answered, yes, do you

1395
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: have a cough that hasn't gone away even with medication?

1396
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: So when I arrived at work, they scanned my badge

1397
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: and it blocked me from clocking in, So they called

1398
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: a manager said he never seen that screen before.

1399
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: So I walked to us office. He asked me, did

1400
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: I answer yes to any question?

1401
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: I explained that I had a cough that hasn't gone

1402
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: away and not a collt for my coworkers. I answered yes,

1403
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: because I catch the train and sometimes I'm around a

1404
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: lot of people, so on and so forth. He told

1405
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: me to take it again and answered no, because they

1406
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 2: needed me to work. Oh god, if not, I'd have

1407
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: been sent home and I couldn't come back for ten

1408
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: days and they would count against my attendance. Shit sounds wrong,

1409
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: but I live in the Bay Area and I need

1410
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: the extra income. So I stayed and retook the assessment

1411
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: and answered no.

1412
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: Oh my, well did you have it? Is everybody your job?

1413
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: They dead now, Long story short. I can't believe they

1414
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: never had anyone answer no to any assessment questions.

1415
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 3: That's right, because everybody did. Do you not hold the

1416
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: people accountable and people can lie?

1417
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I keep coming back to.

1418
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: When people are like, well, you know they do a

1419
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: good job at this place and that place to make

1420
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: you answer these questions, I'm like, do y'all think the

1421
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 2: people who keep saying I've being safe and they be

1422
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: on ig at parties with no masks, hugged up, come

1423
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: on at the bar, they be doing breathing parties and

1424
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 2: breathing play You think these people are answering them questions honestly, right,

1425
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: I don't think so. And the fact that you basically

1426
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: tested the system by answered honestly and they went no, no, no, no,

1427
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: you can't have COVID you got coming to work.

1428
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,479
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I can't believe they never had anyone answer

1429
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: no to any assessment questions. Or maybe they have and

1430
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: they all did what you did. I don't know.

1431
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: Maybe they lied to you. They always pretend. The manager

1432
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: always pretenses, Oh, we've.

1433
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: Never seen the scream before. Come to this office real quick,

1434
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,959
Speaker 1: let me talk to you. Oh man, I can't believe

1435
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: this happened.

1436
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: Now listen, nigga, you need to go ahead and say yes,

1437
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: take that yes off and turn into a note.

1438
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: You want to come to work and get pay right,

1439
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: And that's what Joe asked me to do. What happened.

1440
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: If you'd have had COVID, then spread it.

1441
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what I said earlier. Yeah yeah, so so

1442
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: now what that's how they know? It's like, I guess

1443
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: we was wrong. The call was COVID, right.

1444
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

1445
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: They're close to two hundred people working in that place.

1446
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: My shift is about fifteen people. But still, I can't believe.

1447
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: He asked me to lie. They really don't care about us.

1448
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 2: Lucky for me, I was tested for COVID and it

1449
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: was negative, but they couldn't have possibly known that at

1450
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: the time, and it took that and they took that

1451
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,479
Speaker 2: risk with me, and now imagine how many other people

1452
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: they took that risk with. I would love to hear

1453
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: any thoughts from this from you and Karen.

1454
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: Have a good day, nigga. It's bad what it's no thoughts?

1455
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: There ain't no there ain't no deep conversation. And that's

1456
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: the thing.

1457
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 3: Why you Why are you being punished for fucking catching

1458
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 3: the cod what's my thoughts? Bad?

1459
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: That's what thoughts? He says.

1460
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if Dump's legal team, and I'm not

1461
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: saying that dismiss you, but it just that's open and shape.

1462
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: Everything you're wrote was right. Evie says, I'm not sure

1463
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 2: if dump the legal team is just disincompetent or they

1464
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: just scamping him for more money. I feel bad for

1465
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 2: them if they weren't all horrible goblins. I'm not even sure.

1466
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: Other than Juliani, I'm not even sure the lawyers are

1467
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 2: scamming Trump for money as much as he's scamming his

1468
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 2: voters for money, because.

1469
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: The lawyers act like they don't get paid. They just

1470
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: show up to court like, hey, so no, okay, we

1471
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: go all right, you have doing They getting IOU's so

1472
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: they were like, I'm doing the bare minimum.

1473
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: Another case stone out, All right, then I'll talk to

1474
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: you later next week. I feel bad for them if

1475
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: they weren't our horrible goblins. And what was that shit

1476
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: oozing from the side of Giuliani's head?

1477
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: They say it was hair dye. I believe that. So

1478
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: I guess how did he go.

1479
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: From America's h to America Oh, I guess America's mayor

1480
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: to America's second biggest clown?

1481
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: Dun't being number one? Yeah, yeah, that's another thing.

1482
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: Whenever New York voters started getting on us in the South,

1483
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: I'll always be like, my niggas, come.

1484
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 3: On now that people's death it downhill.

1485
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of suppression y'all got going on.

1486
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: Y'all always vote Democrat and all this shit, but somehow

1487
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 2: these Republicans keep coming out of that motherfucker.

1488
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's working, but I feel.

1489
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: Like y'all got some problems y'all gotta deal with, Just

1490
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: like we got something we gotta deal with down here.

1491
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: If we can't bond in that commonality, then I don't

1492
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: know what we're gonna do. Because a lot of these

1493
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: horrible men be coming straight out of New York.

1494
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is happening?

1495
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: Are Trump's lawyers actually trying to win these election fraud cases? Yes,

1496
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 2: they're sincerely trying to win. No, this is a fucking

1497
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: a fundraising scheme, care scheme. Ninety six percent of the

1498
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 2: artists think it's a fundraising scheme. Four percent think they're seriously.

1499
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: Trying to win, although I would I would love.

1500
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: If that four percent would have at least left a

1501
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: note on why they think that, because I don't know

1502
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: what evidence you have that they are.

1503
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: They sincerely believe they were cheated in this, in this effort,

1504
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: and that.

1505
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: They have a chance of winning these court cases, because

1506
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: if you look at how quick these cases are thrown out,

1507
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: I mean it's the judges are asking one or two

1508
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: questions and then it's just dismissed.

1509
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: It's like, so what evidence y'all got evidence? That's a

1510
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: good question. We didn't think of that. What is evidence?

1511
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: Kim Doc says The griff never stops they learned from

1512
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: Sean King. Oh wow, the shade right, Lakita says, this

1513
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: nigga still here.

1514
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: This is how I hope he dies.

1515
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,439
Speaker 2: One of the kids separated at the board to find

1516
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: him and the golf course pull out a covid lest

1517
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 2: lord and.

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Speaker 1: Say hello, my name is a Niggo Montoya. You killed

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01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: my father, prepared to die. Then his head flies into

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01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: the air. Is that too much?

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes fantasies are just fantasies. Well, thank god it's a

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01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: comedy podcast, and that's covered.

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01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: Under a parody because.

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01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: We don't we don't joke about, you know, killing the president.

1525
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: You know, we would never want to see something like.

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: That absolutely happen. Absolutely not.

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01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to I mean, look when they

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01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: come to kill when the president called okay, because your

1529
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 2: boy is not fit to say that on the air. Never,

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01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't want seek your service visiting me. Uh, let's

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01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: get to the voicemail. We got one voicemail seven O

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Speaker 2: four five five seven zero one eight six.

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Speaker 1: With Rod and care.

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Speaker 4: That that episode of fucking pev on stage h Allen

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01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 4: killing it label man and that that was a fucking

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01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 4: amazing uh episode. This is a podcast that I'd like

1537
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 4: to hear you guys get on that this dad. By

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01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 4: the way, Yeah, I think it's InCred will be fucking

1539
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 4: funny and uh, y'all familiar with instcutre of course, I

1540
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 4: don't know if you've ever heard of it with Langton Kerman,

1541
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 4: the guy who played the dude who dated Molly who

1542
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 4: happened to have like a same six Uh yeah, season one,

1543
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 4: well thing happened, Uh Langton Kerman, that's his name. The

1544
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 4: prince of the show is Black people can come on

1545
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 4: the show and they reveal a wide tale or conspiracy

1546
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 4: theory that they heard growing up, like some six hundred

1547
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 4: year old black man with a big head and vined.

1548
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 4: White people sit like that.

1549
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: It's not serious. It's meant to be comedy. It's fucking

1550
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: hilarious and.

1551
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of people y'all would be

1552
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 4: familiar with h have been on this show, and I

1553
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 4: think that y'all would sucking. Honestly, I would love to

1554
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 4: hit just Karen get on there by herself, because I

1555
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 4: think that would be a funny as episode. I mean,

1556
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 4: but of course most of y'all, wo Man would be funny.

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01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: But I don't know that's something that's been on my

1558
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: mind and like, fucking I just share. All right, what's

1559
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: the name of it? He did not say what the

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01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: name of it is that lay Kerrman. I can look

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01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: it up though, Uh.

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01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean that dude is funny. I actually

1563
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: heard him on what's the show that Comedy Outliers? I

1564
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: heard him on Comedy Outliers podcast a long time ago.

1565
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,520
Speaker 2: My mama told me what Likeston Curving is the podcast

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01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 2: that I'm sure he's talking about.

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01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so I think that's it. Let me just make

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01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,799
Speaker 1: sure click on this. Uh Likeston Curvan.

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01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: Oh, let's see Le'ster Curvin our podcast university friend.

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01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh so he got a couple of podcasts.

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 3: I think my mama told me.

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: But it sounds like my mama told me, yeah, because

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: that's what came up in the podcast app podcast apps.

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01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's get to the Like I said,

1575
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 2: I got thirty minutes, I gotta get out of here.

1576
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 2: Got to get to these these emails, y'all sit in now.

1577
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: The first one we also got an actual physical gifts

1578
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 2: and a card. But it's our girl Tiffany from trying

1579
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: to Wineco saying hey, Karen and Rye we sent you

1580
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: guys a few wines to celebrate your moved to spotify

1581
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty election results. I appreciate the Tyles's efforts

1582
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: on the podcast and Twitter regarding voting matters, and just

1583
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: because we were thinking about you the wires and we did.

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: I took a picture of these.

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01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: I think maybe I'll have Karen put it on our

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01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 2: Instagram as well and tag trying to wine.

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Speaker 1: Ho but Carolina Panthers, cab Cavern now.

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01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: Believe and this is beautiful. We got the Panthers label.

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01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: I can't wait to drink that to get over you know,

1590
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: all these losses we've taken Demiray, Burbette or Burbet, I

1591
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not versed in this made from bruschettou grapes,

1592
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: a personal faith and the classic celebratory wine from the

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01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: Pimont region of Italy and Most Stovino. Now this one

1594
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 2: a little different. The sediment you see is normal.

1595
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of old school.

1596
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 2: It strives to capture the feeling of tapping wine directly

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01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: from the barrel. The result is bottled unfiltered as q V.

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01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: Let me know what you think, particularly on the Most

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01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: Stovino enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Stay safe.

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01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 2: And she also said this card that said thank you

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01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: and said, hey, Rod, just small talking to d gratitude

1603
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: for everything you do for us.

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01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: We appreciate you so much. Cheers to try and go

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01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: wine family.

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01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you baby, and will be a drink

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01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 3: at The colors were beautiful.

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01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 1: We will. We're gonna get all up in the wines.

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01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: Okay they in that chilling right now, carreth the right sin.

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: Dear Rod and Karen, I hope this message finds you well.

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Speaker 2: It did find us well.

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01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: Okay, well, at least it did find us.

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01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 3: You know what.

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01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: Given the opening conversation about reading, I just wanted to

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 2: share my tribute to Tony Morrison's The Bluest i At.

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01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: Karen's the best Morrison novel to begin with.

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01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 2: It has all the narrative sophistication she's known for, but

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01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: it isn't hard to get into the plot.

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01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: It tackles sexual violence, so it can be tough at moments.

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01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 2: But because you'll be reading as an adult, I think

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01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: you'll enjoy the humor more than we were capable of

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01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: our late teens and early twenties. That f why I

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01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: here's me reading one of the funniest scenes.

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: She put a.

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01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: YouTube video to her reading, and then she was like,

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01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: here's a short piece. I explained reading how reading that

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Speaker 2: book led to the life I have now. Tony Morrisons

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01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 2: the Blewes Eye showed me how rac and gender intertwine,

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Speaker 2: and another link.

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Speaker 1: And since I'm writing, I might as well show my.

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Speaker 2: Tribute to another book, The Presciens of Octavia Butler's kendred

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Speaker 2: Man Corisa out here promoting. I'll see you, profess out

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01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 2: here working.

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01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 3: I got over readers going, Cary read kid. We got

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Speaker 3: some you know, we got some love for you.

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01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: I got a list, Blewis. I have to add that

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Speaker 1: election analysis, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: John Right saying, good morning Karen and Rod Rod thanks

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01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: for sharing that New York Magazine article of David Shor's

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01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 2: analysis of twenty twenty election results.

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Speaker 1: I'm hesity to take any analysis as gospel.

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01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: Right now, because ex supposed can be so misleading, and

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01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 2: it's too early to know for sure what the elector

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01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: look like.

1645
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: But if Shore's numbers.

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01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 2: Are close to accurate, it really highlights the fact that

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Speaker 2: the victory was won by a broad coalition of voters, organizers,

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 2: and activists. I'm always happy to give all the pross

1649
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 2: the black voters, especially women, for always bringing us over

1650
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 2: the finish line racist when everything's on the line. But

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: Trump activated and motivated a lot of white people to

1652
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 2: get off our asses and start doing some work for

1653
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: the past four years, and they aren't done even with

1654
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: Trump on the way out. Yeah, and I think that's true, man.

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01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: I mean, the handful of white people that I know

1656
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 2: personally and stuff, you know, well, I like to call

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01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: them the good.

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01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: Whites, the good white people.

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01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: I know, man, they are more politically active now than

1660
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: they weren't four years ago.

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01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: That's just a fact.

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01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 2: Like they used to take a lot of shit for

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01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: granted that they're like, oh this shit can get this

1664
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 2: fucked up. Oh, this is the country we live in,

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01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 2: you know. Now, did a lot of white people get

1666
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 2: activated by that white supremacy?

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01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: Yes, that as well. But I mean, I'm starting to finally.

1668
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: See some shit I never thought I would see, which

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01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: is like white people cutting off friendships with other white

1670
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: people over politics. That shit is very rare, Yes, it is,

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01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 2: you know, because white people can always agree on whiteness.

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01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 2: It's the one thing where's like, yeah, you voted for Hitler,

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01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: I voted for Obama.

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: All right, but right, but this is just family, you know.

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01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: And this is the first time I'm seeing white people

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01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 2: be like, you know, obviously not all not even saying

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01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 2: a ton of white people, but just it used to

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01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: be zero really white people just basically like, yeah, they're Republican,

1679
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 2: but they cool.

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01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: And now white people are like, nah, you can't really

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01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: be a cool Republican.

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01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 3: Now, right, because they going, do you see how fun

1683
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 3: like this? Trump is so fucked up that they go, no,

1684
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 3: he drew a line, and you agreeing with him is

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01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 3: a problem.

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01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: Now. It ain't no two sides to this at all.

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01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, oh, you're you're a person who's bothered

1688
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: by by Like you're a person who's not bothered by Trump,

1689
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: and I'm supposed.

1690
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: To think that we can really like we agree on things.

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01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: I've been over here thinking, like, you know, racism is real,

1692
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 2: but I don't know what to do about it, And

1693
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 2: you've been over here thinking these black people need to

1694
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up and go back to that countries.

1695
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: That's a big deal for some white people, Yes it is.

1696
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 2: They are even now signing up to phone bank at

1697
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: texts and write post cards to try to win the

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01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 2: GA runoffs. This unprecedented interest, enthusiasmic commitment to action by

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01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: white people and many other races who have traditionally.

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01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: Sound the sidelines.

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01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 2: It's a really good sign of hope for the future

1702
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: and sometimes something that I think our side needs to

1703
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 2: emphasize and lean into going forward because we'll need it.

1704
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 2: As you put it so well, no group has the

1705
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 2: numbers to win for our side by ourself, and then

1706
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: incredibly tight elections, if any single group pulls out, we lose.

1707
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: And all that said, I fully acknowledge that we white

1708
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 2: voters still collectively ain't shit.

1709
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know the thing. And this just

1710
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,759
Speaker 1: happens with every type of privilege.

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01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: When you have a marginalized group speaking about the not

1712
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 2: marginalized group, there's a lot of resentment and anger and disdain,

1713
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: and so it leaks through and sometimes it can become unproductive,

1714
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: even if it makes us feel away, right, but it

1715
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: can become unproductive, like concentrating on the fifty three or

1716
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: fifty five whatever numbers y'all using this year percent of

1717
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 2: white women is I mean, that's true, that we can't

1718
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: ever forget that, and that that's not good. But then

1719
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: to just sweep out the obvious amount of white women

1720
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 2: that have been like, no, I'm not with that shit,

1721
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: like like I'm not in the majority of my group.

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01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: But also I'm with I'm on your side. Let's go

1723
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: what we need to do that matters. You know.

1724
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 2: It's like when people shit on the white women in March,

1725
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: which is what we called it, they having after Trump

1726
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 2: took office, But it's like, those are the white women

1727
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 2: that are aggrieved. That's the group of white women we want.

1728
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: To fuck with.

1729
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: Not saying we need the don't. I'm not saying we

1730
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: need them in leader position. I'm not saying they need

1731
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 2: to tell people what I'm just saying, but we need

1732
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: their votes, we need their their wealth, their money, we

1733
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: need their influence.

1734
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: We need because that's another way to win.

1735
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 2: That's why when people say, well they go HRD, we

1736
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: go low, we should go low, I'm like, y'all don't

1737
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 2: really believe that, because going low means working with these

1738
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: white women that aren't perfect at all, but we need

1739
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 2: that fucking vote, right, That's what going low means is

1740
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: making these alliances with people that aren't just your favorite

1741
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: fucking type of person, you know, and and too often

1742
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 2: we would.

1743
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: Stomp our foot, stomp our toe, and lose just so

1744
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: we could feel better at least, at least I didn't

1745
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: do it the wrong way. It's like nigga, I just

1746
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,879
Speaker 1: want to win, to win. I really enjoyed the discussion

1747
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: with l Joy Williams, political strategist.

1748
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 2: About defund the police. I'm not sure that the phrase

1749
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: is really as bad as it's detractors claim, because, in

1750
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:39,799
Speaker 2: my experience to people who use it as an excuse

1751
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 2: not to vote for THEMS are full of shit and

1752
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 2: weren't gonna vote for THEMS anyway.

1753
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: I agree they.

1754
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: Were still they will still uh, they will still take

1755
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: issue with Black Lives Matter, any attempt for racial justice.

1756
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: That said, I do know plenty of loyal DEM voters,

1757
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: including black voters, who do think the phrase is too

1758
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 2: much of a gift to Republicans. So I welcome to

1759
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 2: debate on how to better frame police reform conversation. Yeah,

1760
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 2: what happens is and I think it's pretty weird, But

1761
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: defund the police is police reform. That's what's so funny.

1762
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: It's like the people are so fucking enamored with the phrase,

1763
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: And I get why activists will be enamored because it

1764
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 2: works better at shocking the system. But a politician should

1765
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 2: not have to be enamored with that phrase to do

1766
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: what the fuck we want that phrase to do, and

1767
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 2: in many cases they do.

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: They are like, Yo, I am trying to refund reform

1769
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: the police, and we go that's not enough. Fuck you

1770
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: say defund. It's like, no, I'm gonna do it if

1771
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: we want like they're trying. You know, it's like, you

1772
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: allow me to do the job like you can.

1773
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 3: You can, you can do whatever you want to do

1774
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 3: because you're not beholden to anybody. It's not the same.

1775
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 2: It's like when you go to the drive through and

1776
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 2: your homework working in the drive through and you want

1777
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 2: a couple of Appa pods for free, right your friends

1778
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 2: working the drive through, you don't get on the fucking intercom.

1779
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: Hey, let me get a number three? And also, can

1780
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: you throw some free apple? Pile's in there? Roderick, No,

1781
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: because everyone heard that I'm at work. Nigga.

1782
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: What you do is just slide up to the drive

1783
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: through window, and when you see me come over with

1784
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 2: that order and not hanging in the bag, you'll be

1785
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: like you you know, you hit me on some Apple

1786
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 2: vons and I'm like, I.

1787
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: Got you, brother, it's already too in there.

1788
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 2: That's what the fuck is supposed to happen. And I

1789
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: think that's the miscommunication. And it's partially because everyone is

1790
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 2: performing all the time for these groups, whether it's online,

1791
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 2: whether it's your voters, whether it's other politicians.

1792
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 3: It's a it's a bigger calls, and sometimes people act

1793
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 3: so ignorant and they missed the bigger calls because it's

1794
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 3: about being loud versus the actually accomplishing the shit that

1795
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 3: you need to accomplish.

1796
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 2: Everyone has a group of people that have to go

1797
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: back to and help they approve to what they said,

1798
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: and so the same thing happens with activists, you know.

1799
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it's just they're not the same groups people. So

1800
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: you just have to let you know.

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01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 2: I think there should be some understanding. That's why I

1802
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 2: really was trying to emphasize when I talked about Alc

1803
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: and Spanberg and shit, was like, understand what these people

1804
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: are trying to do, and then you'll be less upset

1805
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: about making one.

1806
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: Of them shut the fuck up or not, Because to me,

1807
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't need either one of y'all to

1808
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: really shut the fuck up. Both of y'all know have

1809
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: a point.

1810
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 2: Both of y'all are playing in different parts of the party,

1811
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 2: different parts of the voting populist and if.

1812
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: I'm being real, I would like all those people to

1813
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:28,799
Speaker 1: be engaged in the discussion.

1814
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 2: What we can't afford is for people that love AOC

1815
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 2: to feel like she got silenced and then go what

1816
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: fuck it did?

1817
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: Then then y'all lose again? Do that?

1818
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 2: Cause that shit sounds cool because it's like I don't

1819
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: like the y'alls in. It sounds cool when you're flexing

1820
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: on them, and then it sounds real shitty when we're

1821
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 2: losing ground in these seats. So this is what part

1822
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: of being a dote is own up to it and

1823
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,759
Speaker 2: be uncomfortable. Same thing with the activists.

1824
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: I want the activists at the table because.

1825
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 2: Before this that when they walk walk away from the table,

1826
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't benefit us. It doesn't really benefit their causes

1827
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 2: either when they walk away from the table, Like we've

1828
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: seen what happens for four years when there's no activists

1829
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 2: even allowed at the table, right, And we've seen what

1830
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: happened before that with Obama when their activists were turning

1831
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: down invites to the table.

1832
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: And now they and now it took that for them

1833
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: to go. I would go to the table. Now, you know,

1834
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: you can go.

1835
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 2: Look up these articles and look up these quotes. But

1836
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 2: these people are now like, yeah, I would, I would go.

1837
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: To the table.

1838
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: Now, we need an administration that would allow us at

1839
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 2: the table. If you not, if you're not sitting at

1840
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: the table, you're on the menion. Come on, this is

1841
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: assistance by side on magical mantras like green New Deal,

1842
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: Medicare for all, abolished ice, defund the police, etc. And

1843
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: making them the litmus test is a real problem, especially

1844
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 2: when we see how easily they can be weaponized by

1845
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 2: Republicans to give hesitant swing voters enough of us scare

1846
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 2: to not vote for DEM's. I don't know what the

1847
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 2: answer is, but I think it underscores the harsh reality

1848
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 2: that shit is complicated, and much to our disappointment, there

1849
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: really are no easy answers, civil bullet tactics that will

1850
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: solve the problems. Yeah, that's another thing. We keep blaming

1851
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: each other for the losses.

1852
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: And that was the thing I picked up on.

1853
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 2: It was like, wait, why are we letting all these

1854
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: motherfuckers that vote Republican?

1855
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: Why are we acting like they not like like it's

1856
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: our fault somehow.

1857
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 2: We like, what if you just live in a state

1858
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: where actually people like Republicans and they're gonna vote for

1859
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 2: them and it ain't shit you can.

1860
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: Say to their side to change their minds.

1861
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: So, now, what avenues do we have because everyone keeps going, well,

1862
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 2: you would have said medicare for all of them, Like, okay,

1863
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: you say medicare for all and they go, I still

1864
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 2: like white supremacy. What do we do then, right, we're

1865
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 2: not necessarily dealing with reasonable people. We desperately want that

1866
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 2: one weird trick that will defeat Republicans at work every

1867
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 2: time in every district.

1868
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: But that just doesn't exist when it's mine.

1869
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really got to look at these races locally

1870
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 2: and trust the people running in them. You know, I

1871
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 2: hated to see that in fighting, but maybe that's what

1872
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 2: people need to realize.

1873
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: Anyway.

1874
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: Thanks for the great analysis and many last the l

1875
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: Joy episode, your three Guys on the Piers, and the

1876
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: Janelle James podcast episode made for a really great week

1877
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 2: of listening.

1878
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 1: Oh well, back to working on the carousel in the

1879
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: attic chance. I love you both, John.

1880
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, that's from the recap I did of

1881
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 2: the I think it was the crush Yes with Janelle

1882
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 2: james On on you and Danger Girl.

1883
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: It was so fun. Yes, let's see Uh who else

1884
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: wrote then? Uh?

1885
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 2: Nachelle Wrights saying, Hi, Rod and Karen. Just listening to

1886
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 2: episode twenty two with l Joy. It was great to

1887
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: hear you, to talk with her, talking with old friends.

1888
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 2: It's something we need and I felt like I was

1889
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 2: in the room.

1890
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: Keep keep on bringing great guests. We will, we will

1891
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 1: thank you.

1892
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: Let's see Green Eye band, It says what up Rod

1893
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 2: and Carrot has promised. While in Vegas this week, I

1894
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 2: decided to try that Church of Chicken Sandwich, which was

1895
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: killer the fried okrah. My only issue was it was

1896
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 2: in the area of Vegas I don't frequent. You know

1897
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: when you slide into a part of town and you think, wait.

1898
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: Is this the hood? Ha ha ha, Yes, I know

1899
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: that feeling.

1900
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 3: Ah, gusto lockstoe, ghusto, lick stoe.

1901
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 1: Way you're taking me, So that's how you feel.

1902
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 2: So I caught the bust down the churches because I

1903
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 2: was being achieved at the first day. I saw when

1904
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 2: I got off there, I stopped a twenty four hour tire.

1905
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,839
Speaker 1: Slash rem shop. Whoo not a good sign, which.

1906
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: Was attached to an autobody place, which was next to

1907
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: an oil change place, which was next to another oil

1908
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 2: change place, and next to them, of course, a liquor stove.

1909
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: Comorrow. What I tell you, bro, when I tell you

1910
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:41,799
Speaker 1: my spider sense was a tingling.

1911
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 2: But other than that than an old black lady cutting

1912
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 2: out the churches employee all hispanic, mind you, for the

1913
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 2: disrespect of not putting her change in her hand.

1914
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: It was a peaceful journey and well worked the trip.

1915
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: The other thing I could say, the only other thing

1916
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: I can say is what was that again? Oh? Yeah,

1917
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: Rod was right. I was right. You know what I'm saying, Man,

1918
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: I did tell you. Yeah.

1919
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: PS attached is a picture because I really is literally

1920
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 2: for auto shots brushed together, a bunch together.

1921
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean, that makes sense to me.

1922
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know why they put auto shots in

1923
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,799
Speaker 2: the hood like that. I mean, because it's all places

1924
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to leave my car for tonight, PPS.

1925
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,560
Speaker 1: Extra special shout out to carry some episodes ago. She said, no,

1926
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: it's a sentence. It shook me to my core. Even

1927
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: those of us that I give us need limits. Absolutely

1928
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:37,759
Speaker 1: because I've.

1929
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,919
Speaker 3: Been on the other side when you don't draw those boundaries,

1930
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 3: and I and you I've learned over the years when

1931
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 3: you don't draw boundaries, you end up being mad at

1932
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 3: somebody when it's not their fault. You should have set boundaries.

1933
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: M uh, let's see real, right, saying.

1934
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: Hey, Rod and Karen, you're probably gotten several emails about

1935
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 2: this already.

1936
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: Well you're wrong, we haven't if you haven't yet.

1937
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: Just for a clarification, two rounds of CPR doesn't mean

1938
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 2: you'll receive they'll revive you twice. A round is two

1939
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 2: minutes of compressions and crash mess and ambou bag breaths,

1940
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: followed by ten second post check. Normally, CPR in hospital

1941
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 2: settings is done for about twenty minutes, so theoretically ten

1942
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,919
Speaker 2: rounds before the provider will say it's a reasonable expectation

1943
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,759
Speaker 2: that this person will have it in chance to survival,

1944
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: call time of death, and this COVID clusterfuck. What's happening

1945
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 2: is two rounds aka four minutes of CPR, and then

1946
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: they call time of death. Most people cannot provide more

1947
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: the two rounds of compressions before they're utterly exhausted, so

1948
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 2: the normal ten plus rounds will require multiple compressors who

1949
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: rotate in and out, and in COVID that's not optimal

1950
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 2: because the bag breasts aerosolize the virus. Right, Yeah, that's

1951
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: the thing like I took I had to do CPR

1952
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 2: for when I worked at the YMCA, And Yo, CPR

1953
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: ain't a fucking joke. Doing it to somebody takes a

1954
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 2: lot of strength, and you normally need a team of

1955
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: people to do it for any length of time.

1956
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: Any one person.

1957
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 2: You might be able to do it for a few

1958
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 2: minutes at the like maybe four minutes, and then you're

1959
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 2: gonna be like, I'm about to pass the fuck out,

1960
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 2: and then you're talking about COVID.

1961
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: So now, like the virus is all in the air,

1962
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: it's all depending if you do mouth to mouth and shit.

1963
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 3: It could be yeah, and even if you do the

1964
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 3: mouth coverings, it's just for the fact that you still

1965
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 3: got to be mouth to mouth.

1966
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1967
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 2: Well, they have like these bags and stuff you can

1968
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 2: use too, but still research shows that only eighteen percent

1969
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 2: of people survive CPR to the hospital discharge. Even at

1970
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: the cardiac respiratory arrest is witnessed and CPR is started.

1971
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: Immediately, most of the time.

1972
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 2: It is not immediate, so actual survival rates for any

1973
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: arrest situation even lower less than ten percent, but I

1974
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: can't recall exact number on top of my head.

1975
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, only in TV.

1976
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: Shows do it work like ninety percent of time, So

1977
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 2: a light of VPR being shown to not truly be

1978
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: effective anyway.

1979
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: The protocols shortened the duration.

1980
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 2: Of CPR are a way of minimizing health care provider

1981
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 2: exposure to VIRA practicals. Less time in the room, less

1982
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 2: personnel in the room, but unfortunately less chance of attaining

1983
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 2: return to spontaneous circulation the endpoint of successful CPR. Hope

1984
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 2: this was not redundant and slash irritating. Nah, it's not irritating.

1985
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 2: It always very informative.

1986
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 1: We appreciate you. COVID sucks.

1987
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: It's increasing again in my area of New York, and

1988
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 2: I honestly have an anxiety. One woman I know, I'm

1989
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 2: pretty sure it has PTSD from the first wave in

1990
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 2: March in May, and it's thinking of quitting her job despite.

1991
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Loans of over a hundred K. But that's a whole

1992
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: other discussion.

1993
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people in healthcare and could than me,

1994
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: are reevaluating our careers Honestly, we like what we do,

1995
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 2: but it's not exactly a great feeling to know that

1996
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 2: you're expected to put your life and that of your

1997
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 2: loved ones on the line every single day just because

1998
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 2: some people refuse to wear a mask and we're not

1999
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 2: allowed to refuse care to anyone, which I've never resented before,

2000
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 2: but it's hard not to when that people boldly claim

2001
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: it's not even real anyway. Yeah, that's what I don't

2002
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 2: know understand. I think you should get to sign a

2003
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: way if you think this ain't real. All right, Dan,

2004
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: good luck anyway, love to show.

2005
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 1: Listen to our Daily congrats on Spotify deal real, thanks, real,

2006
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: thank you. And the other thing I would throw out

2007
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: that too, is I read.

2008
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 2: I listened to a podcast, I want to say it

2009
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 2: was The Daily talking about the outbreak in Wisconsin, and

2010
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: this woman who was running for office was talking about

2011
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: her family and how to affect her family, and like

2012
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 2: her dad died and stuff, and like so many people

2013
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 2: in her family had it because they worked in the

2014
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 2: healthcare industry.

2015
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 1: So like these frontline workers are literally it's so selfish

2016
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: what people are doing.

2017
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 2: They're going out and they're seeing their families and they're

2018
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 2: going to clubs and they're not wearing masks, they're not social.

2019
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 2: It's so selfish we are. Literally, you're you're not the

2020
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 2: only person. It's not even just your family. When you

2021
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 2: get seek and you're in this hospital, you're infecting other

2022
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 2: people's families.

2023
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: So selfish. White people love us some cheese.

2024
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 2: It's from Owen, shut up to Owen long here from

2025
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 2: We Are the Champions. First episode on Netflix features a

2026
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 2: bunch of white people throwing themselves down a dangerous Steve Hill,

2027
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 2: chasing a wheelw cheese like greyhounds, chase, chasing that medical bunny,

2028
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 2: smashing the ship out of themselves, and then definitely doing

2029
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 2: damage with the most ridiculous cheese and grins on their faces,

2030
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 2: just saying, y'all they do them Kevin Burders.

2031
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

2032
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 2: Churches Uh. This is from Kim, who says, Hey, God, Hey,

2033
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 2: rody Karen. I meant to send this last week. I

2034
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 2: just wanted to tell you that there's a church's chicken

2035
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 2: on East Way Drive and it has a drive through.

2036
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew it was one. I just

2037
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 1: couldn't remember what the fuck it was.

2038
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 4: Man.

2039
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 2: I was like, I definitely have seen one with a

2040
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 2: drive through in Charlotte. But the ones that popped up

2041
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 2: on my motherfucking ways app was the hood ones.

2042
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 1: I mean, East Way ain't but it ain't. You know

2043
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: you did. It ain't that it ain't as bad as

2044
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 1: the places I went, but it's the drive through. Yeah uh.

2045
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: It's also part of a parking lot with several legitimate businesses.

2046
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: It's love you guys can well guess who's going back.

2047
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 1: I'll be there, sure will. Alexander Wright saying high Rod

2048
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: and Karen.

2049
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 2: Today I saw a post on Ready celebrating an event

2050
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 2: called International Men's Day. What.

2051
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,600
Speaker 1: I had never heard of it before. I didn't know

2052
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: what to think.

2053
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,879
Speaker 2: Some quick Wikipedia searching taught me some of the background,

2054
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 2: and it seems like a pretty positive thing, focusing on

2055
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 2: things like physical and mental health, role models, breaking stereo types, etc.

2056
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm still not sure what to think because I know

2057
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys out here who would use

2058
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 2: something like this is a platform to air grievances about

2059
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 2: feminism and women's movements.

2060
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you've heard of this or have

2061
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: any thoughts.

2062
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 2: You cover a lot of gender related issues on your podcast,

2063
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 2: A lot of the way you break them down.

2064
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: Curious what you would have to say about this best Alex.

2065
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 2: I haven't heard of it, to be honest, I've really

2066
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,839
Speaker 2: stayed away from most men's Pride type shit because typically

2067
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 2: a cesspool.

2068
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 1: Breeding ground for a lot of anti feminism, and.

2069
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 3: That's not the purpose. That's what it end up turning into.

2070
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 2: Right and the Men's Right activist people have been really

2071
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 2: good about shifting their uh, their rhetoric to make it

2072
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 2: appear to not be anti feminist, anti woman, but it

2073
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 2: always is, yes, it is. So we we used to

2074
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 2: have a Man's Right activist that rolled into the show.

2075
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 2: He was cornball, So I just don't get down with that.

2076
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 2: It's like saying, why don't we have a White Pride

2077
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 2: month or some shit. It's like, well, you know why,

2078
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 2: you know, like come on. Also, another big hand, if

2079
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 2: you don't see a lot of women celebrating it, especially

2080
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 2: feminist women that you know we've come to respect and

2081
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 2: all this stuff, If you don't see them celebrating it,

2082
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 2: then it's probably some bullshit, yes, sir, because it's not

2083
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 2: that being a.

2084
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 1: Feminist means you're anti man. I know some people like

2085
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: to joke about that. Some people are.

2086
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 2: Misaddrists and they think that's funny and shit, uh in

2087
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 2: a comical way, which is totally fine with me.

2088
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 1: And there might be some people that really do, like

2089
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 1: I hate men for real and all the stuff. Maybe

2090
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: they're being serious. I don't know.

2091
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 2: I don't really kick it with those kind of people.

2092
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 2: But in general, nobody like it's quote unquote hating.

2093
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: Men in the way that men hate women like that,

2094
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

2095
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: So, and a lot of stuff that the men's right

2096
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 2: folks believe is shit that's really just patriarchy. But they

2097
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 2: are too They just either too stupid to understand or

2098
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,560
Speaker 2: don't care. Law right saying yo ride yo care and

2099
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 2: Congress of Spotify move y'all have a lot of fans,

2100
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 2: and I started listening y'all somewhere around twenty ten. I

2101
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 2: haven't sent many emails, and I don't post on the

2102
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 2: site as much as I like I used to use

2103
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 2: the name as law, but I still listen faithfully.

2104
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Usually when I get the idea.

2105
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 2: To chime in on something, I'm at work and I

2106
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 2: end up just trying to remember what I wanted to say.

2107
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 2: By the time I clock out, I can barely remember

2108
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 2: how to get home. I'm tight fisted with my paper,

2109
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 2: So I don't really know how y'all managed to get

2110
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:52,719
Speaker 2: donations from me when.

2111
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm even more when I ain't even put money on

2112
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: my own uncle's books. But y'all are something that's for sure. Haha.

2113
01:34:59,200 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Keep on pushing.

2114
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,759
Speaker 2: People are gonna test y'all more now that your platform

2115
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 2: is getting bigger, especially those who are threatened by the

2116
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 2: messages you two get across.

2117
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: Your true fans will see through it all and still support.

2118
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 2: You, whether you take another step forward or if y'all

2119
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 2: to take a step back onto HBO or back to Stitcher.

2120
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: Either way, the blackout tips is the truth. Thanks law,

2121
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: thank you. It was so nice, such a nice uh man.

2122
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Didn't even want nothing, just we thank you, baby. Yeah,

2123
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it.

2124
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in a better space for that

2125
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 2: shit anyway. Oh yeah, We're much multiplied, so if somebody

2126
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: want to talk some shit or be threatened by what

2127
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 2: we have to say, that's kind of on them.

2128
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 1: You know.

2129
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 2: It's like now when I make a Twitter thread and

2130
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 2: I see one hundred eighty seven replies, Okay, y'all got it, mute.

2131
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 2: I don't need to look at that. I said what

2132
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 2: I said I said what I said, white folks tripping. Hey,

2133
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 2: Rod and Carol, long time listener. I had a few

2134
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 2: comments about the post election Trump lost and body one,

2135
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 2: and now white people don't won't move on it from

2136
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 2: this dumpster fire. They will not stop believing it conspiracy theories.

2137
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 2: This made me think of whiteness and that's all, and

2138
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 2: that at its base level is a conspiracy theory. No facts,

2139
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: just vies based on all the crazy nonsense they've made

2140
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 2: up of our black people, Latino people, Native American agents, etc.

2141
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 1: To justify supremacy.

2142
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 2: What's another one to add to this poll, up to

2143
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 2: this pile. I don't know you're right, though, you're right

2144
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 2: that whiteness is a conspiracy. It's the biggest conspiracy theory

2145
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 2: we got.

2146
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: Also, this we were robbed. We will never know who won.

2147
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 2: Garbage rings new confederacy to me, especially the way well

2148
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 2: meaning white folks want to reach out to the hateful,

2149
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 2: biggest and coddle their tantrums. Very reconstruction. That's behavior. I mean,

2150
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 2: they already got the flags. Anyways, thanks for reading this

2151
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,719
Speaker 2: and keep up the good work. Wish you much testing

2152
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 2: your lives.

2153
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 1: Thank you. I agree with everything you said, all right,

2154
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: last one, LaToya right saying, Hi, guys, just wanted to

2155
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: send us some quick feedback for this week. Hopefully I

2156
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,679
Speaker 1: made it. Lol. I was listening to a waste of whiteness.

2157
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 1: I wanted to say two things.

2158
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 2: First of all, I gotta say I agree. Every time

2159
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 2: I see a homeless white man a black area. My

2160
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 2: first thought is you're doing this all wrong, all the

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Speaker 2: wrong WAYB And my second thought is what I would

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01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 2: do with that pasted peach skin. Second, in this episode,

2163
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 2: Can talked about how she felt about reading, how it

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01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 2: was never presented to her in a way that made

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Speaker 2: her feel enjoyment.

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Speaker 1: That made me kind of sad.

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01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 2: And then I realized the privilege I had in saying

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Speaker 2: that my dad would take me and my brothers to

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Speaker 2: the local library every Saturday to pick out six books

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Speaker 2: to read.

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01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 1: I gobbled that shit up.

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01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 2: I read it all mysteries, hard stories, romance novels, comic.

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01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: Books, and non fiction books. It opened worlds and doors

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01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 1: for me. It helped me with diction and world building.

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01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 2: I absolutely adore books, and I hope you will that

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01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 2: you will explore them because there's definitely something for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Hm.

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Speaker 1: It really is, especially now.

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Speaker 2: And also It's also interesting too because my mom used

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01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 2: to take me to scale Bark Library and I get

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01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 2: to pick out some books. I look forward to them,

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01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 2: trips and shit all the time. And it never was

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01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 2: like an assignment. It was just like, read the books

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01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 2: that you're interested in, and we'll be back in a

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01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 2: week or two to attorney and get some more books.

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01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 2: So those tricks of the library mean so much for kids, man,

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01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 2: and it changes the way they see about reading, you know.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, I just want to say that, and you're right,

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01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 1: it is privilege. It is absolutely.

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01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 2: My parents definitely gave me a privilege that a lot

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01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 2: of kids didn't have, you know, because a lot of

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01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 2: people parents they're not good readers, they don't recreationally read,

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01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 2: they don't have time.

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01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 1: They're like, you can read everything in this Bible and

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Speaker 1: that's it. Lastly, I just want to say that when

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01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: you said.

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01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 2: You couldn't figure out why Rod wanted to be with you,

2198
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 2: I was literally screwing of my car. Well we can,

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Speaker 2: at least I can. I admire you so much from Afar.

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01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 2: You are fearless, outspoken, passionate, intelligent. Con I know that

2201
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 2: you have to work through your thoughts on the show,

2202
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 2: but since you are the reason I listen, still love

2203
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 2: you Ron. Without you, the show wouldn't have even happened.

2204
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 2: And look at you now with your black capitalist asses.

2205
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 2: You are honestly one of my inspirations for starting Secret Sauce,

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01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 2: and you continue to be one as I grow in

2207
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 2: the business community. Anyways, love y'all, stay safe and me

2208
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 2: sick lea streets.

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Speaker 1: Toya, thank you absolutely. You know.

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01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 2: I think there's so many things I love about Karen,

2211
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 2: you know, so you know I couldn't imagine this show

2212
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 2: without her, and I think most of y'all couldn't either,

2213
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 2: So so you know I'm glass he's around stuck out.

2214
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know.

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01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 2: I think the world just tries to teach people to

2216
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 2: be so doubtful of themselves and so negative, and we

2217
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 2: fall into that negative self talk. But you know I

2218
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,560
Speaker 2: never believed it, at least not on Karen's behalf. So

2219
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 2: you know, we like, sometimes that's what it is. I

2220
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 2: feel like sometimes loving somebody is every day waking up

2221
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 2: and being like the world is wrong. Nigga, you the shit,

2222
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 2: don't come. Don't listen to them, don't listen to them.

2223
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 2: Let me gash you up, you know, and I love

2224
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 2: it so all right, y'all, that's it.

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01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. We did it. We'll

2226
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 1: talk to you guys tomorrow. Until then, I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love you too. H