WEBVTT - Rapsody Opens Up About New Album, Setting The Bar, "Female Rap" Labels + More 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.280 Yep, the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:04.800 Charlamagne the God DJ Envy is not here, but we 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.320 got a Nihilis and Moon just hilarious of course, and 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.640 we got the greatest lyricists in the world whose name 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:12.480 is not Kendrick Lamar Rat. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.320 New album, Please Don't Cry? How are You. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:19.600 Excited? 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:21.520 Look good? And thank you? 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:23.079 Okay, we got to get into it first before we 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:24.079 started talking about your album. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.520 Kendrick and Drake. Come on, Kendrick, easy call. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.000 It's so easy. I could do it my eyes closed. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:38.240 Kendrick, what what causes an MC to win a rap battle? 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.720 Because you're an m C MC, So what causes an 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:42.040 MC to win a rap battle? 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.199 You gotta have strategy, right, I tell people it's like 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:46.720 the art of war. You got to know who you're 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.760 going against. And for this case in particular, the type 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.960 of person that Kendrick is. You know he's strategic. Like 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.840 if he goes quiet, you should know that he's cooking. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.880 But you gotta have the right beats. You know, your 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.440 bar has got to be up. Your performance is a thing, 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.399 like I think all of those things matter. And the 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.320 thing that I like that he did, he gave you. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.680 He cooked that boy so many different ways. Like I said, 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.400 he baked them, he stir fried them, that grilled him, 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.800 like he marinated a little bit. Like he gave you stories. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.120 He gave you a banger, He gave you the classic 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.840 hip hop bar. Joint was however you want it, I 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.600 got it for you. And you know, he anything, Drake said. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:33.640 He came back and was like he just didn't have rooms. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.200 It's like when you're boxing somebody on you can't get 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:36.720 your arms. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.680 Yeah, I really love that. 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.040 Char always used a parallel of you and Kendrick when 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.000 it comes to rap in the current state of rap 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:49.320 right now, just like the Complexion record, I feel like 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.840 that was also like a great introduction to a bigger 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.160 audience for you as well. But I feel like it's 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.760 a little weird because I would love to see that 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.160 from Cold just because y'allvote from the Carolina US, you 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.960 know what, Like what is what's that dynamic? 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.200 Me and Cole? Yeah, like working together like that, y'all 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.160 did a record, Yeah we did sojourn. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:15.480 Yeah, covers phenomenal. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.080 But yes, yes, yes, Rob Washington, Yes, yes, yes. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.520 I think it's your preference because you know, I see 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.000 some people like Cole and I'm just like, I ain't 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.560 mad at either way. You know, we got all what 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.440 you say, like why we don't work together more. Yes, 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:34.120 I think it's just like the town. Yeah, I don't 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.080 know Kendrick. Kendrick since the beginning. He's always been the 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.200 one to come to the studio early in the days. Like, 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.600 I just had a friendship with him earlier. I had 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.399 his number longer, like we text as, So the friendship 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.840 was just there. Even though he from the West Coast, 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.119 when he would come down to North Carolina, they would 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.880 always bring the tour bus bar you know. So you 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.320 know Cole was in New York. You know, I just 0:02:58.360 --> 0:02:59.600 didn't see him that much. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:01.600 So it's a relationship. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.480 Yeah, it's just real relationships. It ain't nothing funny. But 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.240 call I think coaches moved back to NC maybe like 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:11.440 around the pandemic time. Okay, so that's just he really 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.680 wasn't in the proximity for me to have a relationship. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.760 You have. You and Kendrick ever performed Complexion and Power together. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.720 One time he did that short tour run remember, but 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.960 to Butterfly. He was doing those smaller venues, intimate spots 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.120 for him and we did it in DC. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.400 The reason I'm glad we started the conversation like this 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.160 because I'm trying to set the stage for how Dope 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.440 Rhapsody is for those who still don't know. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:40.040 Like your peers, the mcs MC's hold you in high regard. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.360 That's why they do these type of records with you. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.920 Yeah, and everybody says like you bring the best out 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.720 of them. I'm just you really do you know? It's 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.440 a beautiful, healthy competition. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.040 I think your features that are on all your projects, 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.360 from Layla's Wisdom down to this latest one, from like 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.560 a Black Thought to an Eric Kobad to working with 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.200 Hip Boy, It's like the quality is just different. 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:05.440 You know. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.640 When you tap into an album like this. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.640 It's you know, I'm creating. It's about the music, Like 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.440 the music is the biggest ego in the room. And 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.120 I think when you approach it from that point of view, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:17.520 everybody's gonna bring the best. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:18.120 You know. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:22.120 It makes it fun and exciting, you know, even on 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:26.320 Complexion like you going there like y'all, I gotta I 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.680 gotta meet they level. Even with the Wayne Joint on 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.880 the album, I wrote my versal. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.880 Yo, I wrote my vers that one. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.960 I feel like for a hip hop purists, that's the 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:35.920 best one on there. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:37.160 I love that record. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.679 I did, and I'm not afraid to say that at all, 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.760 like the first time I ever did that. But I 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.080 sent it to him first, and I was just approaching 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.880 it like I was trying to grow and like, I 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.760 don't have to be so lyrical. I want to do 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.279 something that's, you know, easier for people to learn, but 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.479 it's not dumb down, Like it's still me, but it's 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.560 not like just more relaxed. Yeah, when I got his 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.560 verse back, I was like, nah, I gotta I gotta 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.320 match his level of raw, Like I gotta match it. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.000 So I was like, no, I can't. I can't get 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:09.520 the people that. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:11.040 What do you say when you rewrote it? 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.000 He said, I just sent it back to him. I 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:14.800 was like, I rewrote it. I said, I took your 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.760 flow and I just put my words to it. I 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.400 just want to let you know what you think. Send 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:19.320 me fire emojis. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:23.559 And the wild thing about this project is called please 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.360 Don't Cry. Yeah, what ironically, throughout the album, all you're 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:27.360 doing is giving us stuff to. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.679 Cry about, Like what is that about? 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.400 That's that's the point. It was like the title got 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:38.640 a realer man. It's about like I was never one 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.279 to show my emotion in public, or you know we 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.839 grow up maybe men, especially what you're crying about. But 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.680 it's really about allowing yourself to be human. Why you 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.400 should cry, all the reasons you should cry. Don't cry 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.679 just because you're sad. Cry because it's something so funny 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.640 you laugh until you cry, or you so in love, 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.400 you know, like are you joyful or you angry? Like 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:01.960 I I cry when I'm mad because if I don't, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.800 I'm gonna say someone or do something that I'm gonna regret. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:06.960 So I'm gonna just let it come out to tears, 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.040 Like allow yourself to just be human. I don't think 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.640 we do that enough, especially in a day with social media. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.080 It's perfection, perfection in your face all day, like the 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:20.040 highlight reel. But where's the raw stuff? So you got 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.479 to remind people like you human. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.279 You're giving people permission the only feelings. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:29.279 Absolutely for the record, Rhapsody isn't Aquarius, So you know. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:36.440 To aquarium your birthday February thirteen, Okay, in February Quarious 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.159 January twenty first, querious. 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.719 They have a hard time showing emotion like you guys 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.520 have a face and y'all will keep that poker face 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:47.359 so strong. 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.360 So that's why I think this is a great See I've. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.440 I've been healing. Yeah, healing. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.560 It's not real because whenever she upset and t it off, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:01.120 I say something to me and I'm really come back 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.520 to her like you're just gonna say that to me, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:04.640 like I don't know what's really going on. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:05.960 Oh no, he knows me. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.640 Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's the good thing. But I 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:13.280 really don't show my emotions. He will make you show them. Yes, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.920 you know what I'm saying, especially if he knows you. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:17.800 You know, and that's honestly a cancer. 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.440 Yes, yeah. 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.520 Text the other day she responded back, okay, and so 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:27.960 I texted back, I said, you think I didn't. 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:28.960 You think I didn't. I don't know. 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:33.040 You rolled your eyes and stuff your teeth. I know 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:34.440 when you read this that's what you did. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.400 Y'are Aquarius. But ain't nothing wrong with it. 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:38.760 I know. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:43.040 On the first single that you released for the album Asteroids, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.440 you talked about how you almost wanted to step away 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:47.040 from this completely. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:47.679 It was a thought. 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.160 Yeah that broke my heart. Yeah, why it was. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.040 I was just at a place like I was just 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.080 seeing the music business and everything that was in front 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.120 of me. I was like, you know, I feel like 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.120 I'm getting tired, Like there's no with me, you know 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:02.880 what I'm saying, Like I don't know if people care. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.600 And it's like I could do music by myself, Like 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.480 I don't even have to play this game. I want 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.360 to get into the film world anyway. But I love 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.600 it too much. I got too much purpose in it. 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:14.760 I have to be the example. I want to be 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.480 the example. Rather I get to be the example. So 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.440 you know, but it was a real thought, like man, 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.080 what does it look like in this space? You know? 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.520 And you know hip hop likes to aid you out. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.440 I was, you know, as a woman. It was just 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.120 so many things going through my head and it's just like, yo, 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.120 let me just pause and just really sit with it. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.079 So what helped you get over that part of it? 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:37.679 Because I can imagine you don't feel that way now? 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:38.120 You better not. 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.440 You gotta you have to unplug from the matrix, right 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.040 And you look at it and you like, I feel 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.559 this way cause I'm trying to validate myself through all 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.840 these other things that everybody like, Yo, why don't why 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.840 aren't you know, why don't I get this award? Or 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.760 why I'm not in this space or these same spaces 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.520 as other people? And you figure out like or whatever 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.120 space is for me is for me. And that's what 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.760 it was like. I had to validate myself and I 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.680 look for anybody else and any other these false measurements 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.560 to do it. You know, it's like, what are you 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.920 in it for? I was like, damn, I'd just really 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.000 like to connect with people and make music to inspire people. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.520 So do that. Anything else is a blessing. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:21.000 Yeah. 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.920 So how did you feel last year? I mean it's 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:24.600 still going on now. 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.160 Last year it was like this thing where it was 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.440 like female rappers are keeping hip hop alive, Female. 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.320 Rappers are holding it down for hip hop. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.560 But then when I look at the rappers, I'm like, 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.440 I don't think Rahap City fits in that. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.000 How did you feel. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:46.440 It's a unique physician. I think it's beautiful because it's 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.960 so many women. We never seen it like this on 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.360 this stage before, like especially with social media, so it's 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.400 exciting because you know women. I think it was like 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.800 an all female lineup for like a hot summer hot 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.120 ninety seventh. I've never seen that before, So I'm like, wow, 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.680 that's beautiful for the space and women, but it's still 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.760 not enough variety and harmony when you look at it. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.080 So it's like, but you know, we still got a 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.199 long way to go, because this can't be the only 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.880 thing that we make the reason why you're successful. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:16.360 Yeah. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.600 Like, so that's where I was at. It was like, Yo, 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.079 I'm not trying to dog nobody, but at the same time, 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.360 like I gotta advocate for myself and others who have 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.880 other stories to tell, Like, you know, I don't see us, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.679 you know, as one of those ones that people are 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:37.120 like helping to push this beautiful resurgence of women in 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.560 hip hop in the forefront, you know, in your face. 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.960 So it was like, yeah, it's great for women, but 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:47.200 on the other end, it's like it's nothing different than 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.760 any other thing American sell sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.480 you know what I'm saying. Like, So that was it. 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.800 Did you feel like your pen wasn't being respected? That 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.360 was one of the reasons you wanted to walk away? 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.520 Nah, not necessarily, my it's respected by the right people. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.559 It was just like people not listening. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:04.840 Yeah, that was it. 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.640 Like I said, I see comments. They'd be like, don't 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.400 look at it, but I like to look. The psychology 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.120 of people is interesting to me. I see, I see all. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.360 I would see all the conversations, and I'm just like 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.520 what people say about me, what they think, And I'm like, oh, 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.319 you never pressed play. You don't have to like it, 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.840 but I know you never pressed play, and really sad 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.640 with it. So it was just like, man, what a fight. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.760 What's the what's the comments that bothered you the most? 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.560 Like there's always one that sticks out in my mind 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.439 that motivates you when you wake up in the morning. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:41.400 That motivates me, that pisses me off. I don't know 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.320 it was, I just see it. I I would just 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.880 take notice. I was I was in a space of healing. Charlmagne, like, 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.360 you know, I could tell you older things, but now 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.160 it was just a place of like I could look 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:54.840 at it and observe and I didn't have to be 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.839 emotional about it. I could just be like, Okay, I 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.720 see where you are. You know, you got some growing 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:05.319 to do as a human. But it would be things like, 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:10.560 you know, one of the conversations is between mostly the guys, right, 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.960 the guys that I would see mostly is like all 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.120 the women do is shake they ass and dah dah dah. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.160 You should be rhapsody, Like that's the thing, Like I'm 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.920 the standard and other women like all y'all only bring 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.600 up rhapsody when y'all trying to put down another female. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.000 So I'm sitting in the middle, like I see both 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.200 sides of what y'all saying, Like, don't make me the 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.680 standard to put down nobody else. I ain't never with that. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.840 But at the same time, there is something to be 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:40.800 said about why don't you women tap into Tierra wat 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:46.520 rhapsody or like Kaylee forty seven, like where you know, 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.600 does it have to be that you need something to 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.560 somebody to tell you that this is who you should 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.880 pay attention to. Yeah, so that's what it was. It 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.600 was like, you know, because you don't have to be me, 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.960 but I know there's a lot more women that don't 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.920 get the opportunity to get the support, you know. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.160 And then like, if you're trying to appeal to men, 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.640 why not listen to one? Why not like listen to 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.199 what the's men are saying. And to be honest, what 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.920 you I've been put on by your music by men 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.200 like my brothers, my father, and my cousin. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:17.160 And then when I. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.640 Got this, well what before I got the job officially, 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:21.640 it's before to everybody, I got the job and I 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:22.360 didn't have it yet. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.560 I was guess who saying he would bring you up 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:24.880 a lot. 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.880 It will always bring you up, big supporter, you're Yeah, 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.880 but I always heard about you from men like you 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:33.479 have a big male. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.680 Fan base and they like to hear you spit that shit. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.600 Yeah, and that's crazy because I would I tell people that, 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.000 Like I would see comments they be like, if y'all 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.240 support Rhapsody, why you're on buy a record? I'd be like, 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.679 I got a big male following. Yeah, you know what 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:50.680 I'm saying. So that was I don't know, that was 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.720 just part of my fight. And then too, like another 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.160 conversation I would be thinking about was you would see 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.880 like especially when it comes to women and the sex 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.200 appeal would be like it's empowering, and I'd be like, yeah, 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.720 I could see how it is for sure, Like especially 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.120 when Kim came up, and you know, it wasn't a 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.640 thing like she made like it's okay to love our bodies, 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.760 but it's it's so one sided now, and I'm thinking, like, 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.480 is it really like this is a conversation me and 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.240 somebody else were having and they brought it up, and 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.560 I was like, that's a great point. Is it really 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.600 empowering if a man is writing it? 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:24.560 Mm? 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.440 Because if but there's women that right their own, but 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.000 a lot they're men penning it. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.920 Let's just be realtriarchy. 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.280 It's still the patriarchy, Like, you know, we try to 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.800 take ownership because we the face of it. Or is 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.560 it really empowering if it's not your story, if it's 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.600 not your words, you know, like, it's just a thought 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.600 that I'm just like, I would love to people to 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.200 explore that thought more because I you know, I have 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.480 conversations with some women and they'd be like, yo, rap, 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.800 I love what you do. Yo, I want to rap 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.920 like this. I want to rap like that, but this 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.760 is what they like. I'm just like, you should do 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.760 what you like. She'd do what you want it. That's 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.360 my only thing. Like, you should be able to show 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.200 up how you want to show up. If it is 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.440 sexy and if it's real to you, then do that. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:08.480 But if you're doing it just because you feel like 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.680 this is the only way that I could be successful, 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.840 and this is I see everybody else doing it, so 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.760 this is what we gotta do to make it. That's 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.440 whack to me. You know, I don't feel like you 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.440 could be all the way happy for doing something that's 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:20.160 not true. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.960 You think a woman can take off and wrap without 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:24.520 a male code sign because. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.000 Yeah, I think, you know, we have so many resources 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.120 if you make great music. One thing Ninfe always told me, 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.320 it might take you longer, but people can't deny it. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:39.040 So it's kind of like either down for the marathon 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.240 or not. You know, that's everybody like man, woman, It 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.400 don't matter if the music good is somebody gonna find 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.280 it eventually. But I think you can, like, but you 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.200 gotta you gotta make great music and still be on 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.440 your brand and in marketing and you know, all the 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.760 little things. But I do think it's possible. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.880 Because I always think about how dope it would have 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.680 been if, like the way embraces the sexy red, Kendrick 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.200 wouldn't embrace. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.040 You in that way. This thing, I think that goes 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:05.560 a long way. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:12.480 Sometimes no it does, and he has you know, Complexion 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.360 was an alley to Ali big alley for me. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.760 But yeah, and then a lot I mean, to be honest, 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.840 a lot of embracing from like, you know, older generations. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.480 I noticed a lot of people like the embraced people 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:28.360 that can't touch them. 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:30.800 You get what I'm saying, Like. 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.960 They will embrace people that they know cannot touch them. Yeah, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.960 beat them lyrically, can't even I'm just gonna throw you 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.640 in because you're popularity. You've got the big platform right now. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.920 You would there what they want to be like, you're 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:49.240 playing into what you know, pussy money, drugs. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:49.600 All already cool. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.320 So I'm gonna take you under my wing, you know 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:55.240 what I'm saying, just to keep me in the game. 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.600 Attached. But that's a real thing. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:16:59.240 That's crazy. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.560 It is a honor though, to be the bar. 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:07.640 I know, it's so like misweighted because it's like everybody else. 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:11.960 And then Rhapsody, you feel like a pressure at all 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:13.280 because you are the bar? 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.320 Nah pressure, No, only because it's real to me the 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.359 things I talk about it. I don't like I'm gonna 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.199 do this because I do it because I want to, 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:24.960 you know what I'm saying, Like I care the things 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.120 I say I care about, So it's not a pressure 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.399 in that way I will say, like, sometimes I think about, like, yo, 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.080 if I wanted to have fun and just do something 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.040 to show people the side of me, like I like 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.640 the club too, like that's I'm a well rounded human being. 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.200 And then I'd be like, yo, those are the times 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:44.840 I feel a little pressure. It's like you don't have 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.160 room to do that because nobody else is talking about 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.000 the things that need to be talked about. It's a 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:55.240 lot of people having fun, so like, okay, we got 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.639 enough for that. Who who's gonna be the voice to 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.840 make sure we talk about those things? So that part 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.080 sometimes I'm just like, yo, I would love to let 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.080 people see what a fun album for me, Like I'm 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:07.560 just having fun. 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.719 I mean I think with the albums, maybe your intention 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.800 is different, but I feel like you can still do that. 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.320 Maybe give us a tape. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.199 Yeah, I started one really, Yeah, I explore you know, 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.399 a turn up take. Yeah. I call it my my 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:27.040 ignorant album. Ignorant and I mean that just by the beast, Like, 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.320 but yeah, I wanted to do something that was that 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.200 that side of me because I haven't shown that side. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.879 Yeah, so you haven't shown this side either of No, 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:38.440 please don't cry. 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:42.199 I started working on three albums at one time. Yeah. 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.040