1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Yep, the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Charlamagne the God DJ Envy is not here, but we 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: got a Nihilis and Moon just hilarious of course, and 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: we got the greatest lyricists in the world whose name 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: is not Kendrick Lamar Rat. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: New album, Please Don't Cry? How are You. 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 3: Excited? 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 4: Look good? And thank you? 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Okay, we got to get into it first before we 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: started talking about your album. 11 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Kendrick and Drake. Come on, Kendrick, easy call. 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: It's so easy. I could do it my eyes closed. 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: Kendrick, what what causes an MC to win a rap battle? 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: Because you're an m C MC, So what causes an 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: MC to win a rap battle? 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: You gotta have strategy, right, I tell people it's like 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: the art of war. You got to know who you're 18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: going against. And for this case in particular, the type 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: of person that Kendrick is. You know he's strategic. Like 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: if he goes quiet, you should know that he's cooking. 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: But you gotta have the right beats. You know, your 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: bar has got to be up. Your performance is a thing, 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: like I think all of those things matter. And the 24 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: thing that I like that he did, he gave you. 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: He cooked that boy so many different ways. Like I said, 26 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: he baked them, he stir fried them, that grilled him, 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: like he marinated a little bit. Like he gave you stories. 28 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: He gave you a banger, He gave you the classic 29 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: hip hop bar. Joint was however you want it, I 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: got it for you. And you know, he anything, Drake said. 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: He came back and was like he just didn't have rooms. 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: It's like when you're boxing somebody on you can't get 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: your arms. 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I really love that. 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 6: Char always used a parallel of you and Kendrick when 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 6: it comes to rap in the current state of rap 37 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 6: right now, just like the Complexion record, I feel like 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 6: that was also like a great introduction to a bigger 39 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 6: audience for you as well. But I feel like it's 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 6: a little weird because I would love to see that 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 6: from Cold just because y'allvote from the Carolina US, you 42 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 6: know what, Like what is what's that dynamic? 43 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: Me and Cole? Yeah, like working together like that, y'all 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: did a record, Yeah we did sojourn. 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, covers phenomenal. 46 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 5: But yes, yes, yes, Rob Washington, Yes, yes, yes. 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: I think it's your preference because you know, I see 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: some people like Cole and I'm just like, I ain't 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: mad at either way. You know, we got all what 50 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: you say, like why we don't work together more. Yes, 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: I think it's just like the town. Yeah, I don't 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: know Kendrick. Kendrick since the beginning. He's always been the 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: one to come to the studio early in the days. Like, 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: I just had a friendship with him earlier. I had 55 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 3: his number longer, like we text as, So the friendship 56 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: was just there. Even though he from the West Coast, 57 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 3: when he would come down to North Carolina, they would 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: always bring the tour bus bar you know. So you 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: know Cole was in New York. You know, I just 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: didn't see him that much. 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: So it's a relationship. 62 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just real relationships. It ain't nothing funny. But 63 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: call I think coaches moved back to NC maybe like 64 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: around the pandemic time. Okay, so that's just he really 65 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: wasn't in the proximity for me to have a relationship. 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: You have. You and Kendrick ever performed Complexion and Power together. 67 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: One time he did that short tour run remember, but 68 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: to Butterfly. He was doing those smaller venues, intimate spots 69 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: for him and we did it in DC. 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: The reason I'm glad we started the conversation like this 71 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to set the stage for how Dope 72 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Rhapsody is for those who still don't know. 73 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: Like your peers, the mcs MC's hold you in high regard. 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: That's why they do these type of records with you. 75 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody says like you bring the best out 76 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: of them. I'm just you really do you know? It's 77 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: a beautiful, healthy competition. 78 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 6: I think your features that are on all your projects, 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 6: from Layla's Wisdom down to this latest one, from like 80 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 6: a Black Thought to an Eric Kobad to working with 81 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 6: Hip Boy, It's like the quality is just different. 82 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: You know. 83 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 5: When you tap into an album like this. 84 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: It's you know, I'm creating. It's about the music, Like 85 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: the music is the biggest ego in the room. And 86 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: I think when you approach it from that point of view, 87 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: everybody's gonna bring the best. 88 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 4: You know. 89 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: It makes it fun and exciting, you know, even on 90 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: Complexion like you going there like y'all, I gotta I 91 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: gotta meet they level. Even with the Wayne Joint on 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: the album, I wrote my versal. 93 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 5: Yo, I wrote my vers that one. 94 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 6: I feel like for a hip hop purists, that's the 95 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 6: best one on there. 96 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 5: I love that record. 97 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 3: I did, and I'm not afraid to say that at all, 98 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: like the first time I ever did that. But I 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: sent it to him first, and I was just approaching 100 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: it like I was trying to grow and like, I 101 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: don't have to be so lyrical. I want to do 102 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: something that's, you know, easier for people to learn, but 103 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: it's not dumb down, Like it's still me, but it's 104 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: not like just more relaxed. Yeah, when I got his 105 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: verse back, I was like, nah, I gotta I gotta 106 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: match his level of raw, Like I gotta match it. 107 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: So I was like, no, I can't. I can't get 108 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: the people that. 109 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: What do you say when you rewrote it? 110 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: He said, I just sent it back to him. I 111 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: was like, I rewrote it. I said, I took your 112 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: flow and I just put my words to it. I 113 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: just want to let you know what you think. Send 114 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: me fire emojis. 115 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 1: And the wild thing about this project is called please 116 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: Don't Cry. Yeah, what ironically, throughout the album, all you're 117 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: doing is giving us stuff to. 118 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 7: Cry about, Like what is that about? 119 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: That's that's the point. It was like the title got 120 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: a realer man. It's about like I was never one 121 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: to show my emotion in public, or you know we 122 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: grow up maybe men, especially what you're crying about. But 123 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: it's really about allowing yourself to be human. Why you 124 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: should cry, all the reasons you should cry. Don't cry 125 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 3: just because you're sad. Cry because it's something so funny 126 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: you laugh until you cry, or you so in love, 127 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: you know, like are you joyful or you angry? Like 128 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: I I cry when I'm mad because if I don't, 129 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say someone or do something that I'm gonna regret. 130 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna just let it come out to tears, 131 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: Like allow yourself to just be human. I don't think 132 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: we do that enough, especially in a day with social media. 133 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: It's perfection, perfection in your face all day, like the 134 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: highlight reel. But where's the raw stuff? So you got 135 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: to remind people like you human. 136 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: You're giving people permission the only feelings. 137 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 6: Absolutely for the record, Rhapsody isn't Aquarius, So you know. 138 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: To aquarium your birthday February thirteen, Okay, in February Quarious 139 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: January twenty first, querious. 140 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 6: They have a hard time showing emotion like you guys 141 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 6: have a face and y'all will keep that poker face 142 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 6: so strong. 143 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 5: So that's why I think this is a great See I've. 144 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: I've been healing. Yeah, healing. 145 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: It's not real because whenever she upset and t it off, 146 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: I say something to me and I'm really come back 147 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: to her like you're just gonna say that to me, 148 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: like I don't know what's really going on. 149 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: Oh no, he knows me. 150 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's the good thing. But I 151 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 7: really don't show my emotions. He will make you show them. Yes, 152 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, especially if he knows you. 153 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 7: You know, and that's honestly a cancer. 154 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah. 155 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: Text the other day she responded back, okay, and so 156 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: I texted back, I said, you think I didn't. 157 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: You think I didn't. I don't know. 158 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: You rolled your eyes and stuff your teeth. I know 159 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: when you read this that's what you did. 160 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 5: Y'are Aquarius. But ain't nothing wrong with it. 161 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: I know. 162 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 6: On the first single that you released for the album Asteroids, 163 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 6: you talked about how you almost wanted to step away 164 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 6: from this completely. 165 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 3: It was a thought. 166 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 5: Yeah that broke my heart. Yeah, why it was. 167 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: I was just at a place like I was just 168 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: seeing the music business and everything that was in front 169 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: of me. I was like, you know, I feel like 170 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: I'm getting tired, Like there's no with me, you know 171 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like I don't know if people care. 172 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: And it's like I could do music by myself, Like 173 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: I don't even have to play this game. I want 174 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: to get into the film world anyway. But I love 175 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: it too much. I got too much purpose in it. 176 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: I have to be the example. I want to be 177 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: the example. Rather I get to be the example. So 178 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: you know, but it was a real thought, like man, 179 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: what does it look like in this space? You know? 180 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: And you know hip hop likes to aid you out. 181 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: I was, you know, as a woman. It was just 182 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: so many things going through my head and it's just like, yo, 183 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: let me just pause and just really sit with it. 184 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 7: So what helped you get over that part of it? 185 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 7: Because I can imagine you don't feel that way now? 186 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 4: You better not. 187 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: You gotta you have to unplug from the matrix, right 188 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: And you look at it and you like, I feel 189 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 3: this way cause I'm trying to validate myself through all 190 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: these other things that everybody like, Yo, why don't why 191 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: aren't you know, why don't I get this award? Or 192 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: why I'm not in this space or these same spaces 193 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: as other people? And you figure out like or whatever 194 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: space is for me is for me. And that's what 195 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: it was like. I had to validate myself and I 196 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 3: look for anybody else and any other these false measurements 197 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: to do it. You know, it's like, what are you 198 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: in it for? I was like, damn, I'd just really 199 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: like to connect with people and make music to inspire people. 200 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: So do that. Anything else is a blessing. 201 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 202 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: So how did you feel last year? I mean it's 203 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: still going on now. 204 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: Last year it was like this thing where it was 205 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: like female rappers are keeping hip hop alive, Female. 206 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: Rappers are holding it down for hip hop. 207 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: But then when I look at the rappers, I'm like, 208 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't think Rahap City fits in that. 209 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: How did you feel. 210 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: It's a unique physician. I think it's beautiful because it's 211 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: so many women. We never seen it like this on 212 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: this stage before, like especially with social media, so it's 213 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: exciting because you know women. I think it was like 214 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: an all female lineup for like a hot summer hot 215 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: ninety seventh. I've never seen that before, So I'm like, wow, 216 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: that's beautiful for the space and women, but it's still 217 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: not enough variety and harmony when you look at it. 218 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: So it's like, but you know, we still got a 219 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 3: long way to go, because this can't be the only 220 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: thing that we make the reason why you're successful. 221 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 222 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: Like, so that's where I was at. It was like, Yo, 223 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to dog nobody, but at the same time, 224 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: like I gotta advocate for myself and others who have 225 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: other stories to tell, Like, you know, I don't see us, 226 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 3: you know, as one of those ones that people are 227 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: like helping to push this beautiful resurgence of women in 228 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: hip hop in the forefront, you know, in your face. 229 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: So it was like, yeah, it's great for women, but 230 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: on the other end, it's like it's nothing different than 231 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: any other thing American sell sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, 232 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like, So that was it. 233 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: Did you feel like your pen wasn't being respected? That 234 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: was one of the reasons you wanted to walk away? 235 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: Nah, not necessarily, my it's respected by the right people. 236 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 3: It was just like people not listening. 237 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was it. 238 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: Like I said, I see comments. They'd be like, don't 239 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: look at it, but I like to look. The psychology 240 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: of people is interesting to me. I see, I see all. 241 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: I would see all the conversations, and I'm just like 242 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: what people say about me, what they think, And I'm like, oh, 243 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 3: you never pressed play. You don't have to like it, 244 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: but I know you never pressed play, and really sad 245 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: with it. So it was just like, man, what a fight. 246 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: What's the what's the comments that bothered you the most? 247 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: Like there's always one that sticks out in my mind 248 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: that motivates you when you wake up in the morning. 249 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: That motivates me, that pisses me off. I don't know 250 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: it was, I just see it. I I would just 251 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: take notice. I was I was in a space of healing. Charlmagne, like, 252 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: you know, I could tell you older things, but now 253 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: it was just a place of like I could look 254 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 3: at it and observe and I didn't have to be 255 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 3: emotional about it. I could just be like, Okay, I 256 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: see where you are. You know, you got some growing 257 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: to do as a human. But it would be things like, 258 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: you know, one of the conversations is between mostly the guys, right, 259 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: the guys that I would see mostly is like all 260 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: the women do is shake they ass and dah dah dah. 261 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: You should be rhapsody, Like that's the thing, Like I'm 262 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: the standard and other women like all y'all only bring 263 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: up rhapsody when y'all trying to put down another female. 264 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: So I'm sitting in the middle, like I see both 265 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: sides of what y'all saying, Like, don't make me the 266 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: standard to put down nobody else. I ain't never with that. 267 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: But at the same time, there is something to be 268 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: said about why don't you women tap into Tierra wat 269 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: rhapsody or like Kaylee forty seven, like where you know, 270 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: does it have to be that you need something to 271 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: somebody to tell you that this is who you should 272 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: pay attention to. Yeah, so that's what it was. It 273 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: was like, you know, because you don't have to be me, 274 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: but I know there's a lot more women that don't 275 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: get the opportunity to get the support, you know. 276 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 7: And then like, if you're trying to appeal to men, 277 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 7: why not listen to one? Why not like listen to 278 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 7: what the's men are saying. And to be honest, what 279 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 7: you I've been put on by your music by men 280 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 7: like my brothers, my father, and my cousin. 281 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: And then when I. 282 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 7: Got this, well what before I got the job officially, 283 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 7: it's before to everybody, I got the job and I 284 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 7: didn't have it yet. 285 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 4: I was guess who saying he would bring you up 286 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: a lot. 287 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 7: It will always bring you up, big supporter, you're Yeah, 288 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 7: but I always heard about you from men like you 289 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,479 Speaker 7: have a big male. 290 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 4: Fan base and they like to hear you spit that shit. 291 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's crazy because I would I tell people that, 292 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: Like I would see comments they be like, if y'all 293 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: support Rhapsody, why you're on buy a record? I'd be like, 294 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 3: I got a big male following. Yeah, you know what 295 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So that was I don't know, that was 296 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: just part of my fight. And then too, like another 297 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: conversation I would be thinking about was you would see 298 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: like especially when it comes to women and the sex 299 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: appeal would be like it's empowering, and I'd be like, yeah, 300 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: I could see how it is for sure, Like especially 301 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: when Kim came up, and you know, it wasn't a 302 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: thing like she made like it's okay to love our bodies, 303 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: but it's it's so one sided now, and I'm thinking, like, 304 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: is it really like this is a conversation me and 305 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: somebody else were having and they brought it up, and 306 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: I was like, that's a great point. Is it really 307 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: empowering if a man is writing it? 308 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: Mm? 309 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: Because if but there's women that right their own, but 310 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: a lot they're men penning it. 311 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: Let's just be realtriarchy. 312 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: It's still the patriarchy, Like, you know, we try to 313 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: take ownership because we the face of it. Or is 314 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: it really empowering if it's not your story, if it's 315 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: not your words, you know, like, it's just a thought 316 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: that I'm just like, I would love to people to 317 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: explore that thought more because I you know, I have 318 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: conversations with some women and they'd be like, yo, rap, 319 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: I love what you do. Yo, I want to rap 320 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: like this. I want to rap like that, but this 321 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: is what they like. I'm just like, you should do 322 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: what you like. She'd do what you want it. That's 323 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: my only thing. Like, you should be able to show 324 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: up how you want to show up. If it is 325 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: sexy and if it's real to you, then do that. 326 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: But if you're doing it just because you feel like 327 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: this is the only way that I could be successful, 328 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: and this is I see everybody else doing it, so 329 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: this is what we gotta do to make it. That's 330 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: whack to me. You know, I don't feel like you 331 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: could be all the way happy for doing something that's 332 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: not true. 333 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: You think a woman can take off and wrap without 334 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: a male code sign because. 335 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, we have so many resources 336 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: if you make great music. One thing Ninfe always told me, 337 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: it might take you longer, but people can't deny it. 338 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like either down for the marathon 339 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: or not. You know, that's everybody like man, woman, It 340 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: don't matter if the music good is somebody gonna find 341 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: it eventually. But I think you can, like, but you 342 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: gotta you gotta make great music and still be on 343 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: your brand and in marketing and you know, all the 344 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: little things. But I do think it's possible. 345 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: Because I always think about how dope it would have 346 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: been if, like the way embraces the sexy red, Kendrick 347 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't embrace. 348 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: You in that way. This thing, I think that goes 349 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: a long way. 350 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes no it does, and he has you know, Complexion 351 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: was an alley to Ali big alley for me. 352 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 7: But yeah, and then a lot I mean, to be honest, 353 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 7: a lot of embracing from like, you know, older generations. 354 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 7: I noticed a lot of people like the embraced people 355 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 7: that can't touch them. 356 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying, Like. 357 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 7: They will embrace people that they know cannot touch them. Yeah, 358 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 7: beat them lyrically, can't even I'm just gonna throw you 359 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 7: in because you're popularity. You've got the big platform right now. 360 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 7: You would there what they want to be like, you're 361 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 7: playing into what you know, pussy money, drugs. 362 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: All already cool. 363 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 7: So I'm gonna take you under my wing, you know 364 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 7: what I'm saying, just to keep me in the game. 365 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: Attached. But that's a real thing. 366 00:16:58,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 367 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 5: It is a honor though, to be the bar. 368 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 6: I know, it's so like misweighted because it's like everybody else. 369 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 6: And then Rhapsody, you feel like a pressure at all 370 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 6: because you are the bar? 371 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: Nah pressure, No, only because it's real to me the 372 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: things I talk about it. I don't like I'm gonna 373 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 3: do this because I do it because I want to, 374 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like I care the things 375 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: I say I care about, So it's not a pressure 376 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: in that way I will say, like, sometimes I think about, like, yo, 377 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: if I wanted to have fun and just do something 378 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: to show people the side of me, like I like 379 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: the club too, like that's I'm a well rounded human being. 380 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: And then I'd be like, yo, those are the times 381 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: I feel a little pressure. It's like you don't have 382 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: room to do that because nobody else is talking about 383 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: the things that need to be talked about. It's a 384 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: lot of people having fun, so like, okay, we got 385 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: enough for that. Who who's gonna be the voice to 386 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: make sure we talk about those things? So that part 387 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: sometimes I'm just like, yo, I would love to let 388 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: people see what a fun album for me, Like I'm 389 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: just having fun. 390 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 6: I mean I think with the albums, maybe your intention 391 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 6: is different, but I feel like you can still do that. 392 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: Maybe give us a tape. 393 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I started one really, Yeah, I explore you know, 394 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: a turn up take. Yeah. I call it my my 395 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: ignorant album. Ignorant and I mean that just by the beast, Like, 396 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: but yeah, I wanted to do something that was that 397 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: that side of me because I haven't shown that side. 398 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you haven't shown this side either of No, 399 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 5: please don't cry. 400 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 3: I started working on three albums at one time. Yeah. 401 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: I called Sherry. I was like, Sherry, that's the co 402 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 3: president of rock Nation, So I want to put out 403 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 3: three albums in one year. She was like rap. I 404 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: was like, I need to show people all sides of me. 405 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: She was like, no, absolutely not. We have to give 406 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: proper attention and support with the albums each So I 407 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, how. 408 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: Did this album should because I've heard you say that 409 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: this album has brought you the most peace you've ever seen. 410 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: How does the album this raw and vulnerabile bring you peace? 411 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: It brings me peace because it's it's the most me 412 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: I've ever been. I'm so fearless now again, like I'm 413 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 3: I'm neo, like unplugged from the matrix and living my reality. 414 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: So that's like everybody's been asking me how you feel, 415 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: how you feel like the album's about to come out, 416 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: and I tell them myself, I'm at peace because I 417 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: have no expectations. I'm not thinking about I need to 418 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: do this amount of numbers, like yo, what's good? If 419 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: do we need to do this? I'm just like people 420 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: like it or they don't. Yeah, I made an album 421 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: that I was happy with and I shared things that 422 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: I wanted to share that with for me, like so 423 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: many albums, I would shine a light on the world, 424 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: and this one was like I need to shine light 425 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: on me and so to be able to like because 426 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: I'm so private and I protect myself in that way 427 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: and I held so much and I feel lighter because 428 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm so confident and again I'm not 429 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: afraid to just share. I was afraid before because I 430 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: was afraid of judgment, what people would think, like you're 431 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: not perfect, You're not always the good girl. You have 432 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: disappointed yourself and some people. But it's like it's okay, 433 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: we all do at some point. 434 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 7: I like that that mindset to have. You don't have 435 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 7: any expectations. Charlemagne said it a lot about like his books, events, 436 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 7: all of that, like people. I will hear people that 437 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 7: are you excited about like the we just had the 438 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 7: second annual Black Effect Podcast Festival when Atlanta, and someone's 439 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 7: like you, are you excited? 440 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: He was like, I mean, I have no expectations. 441 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 7: It's either you know it was it was big, Like 442 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 7: it turned out big last year. It's gonna do that 443 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 7: this year. I mean, if it doesn't, it's like I 444 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 7: like to have that. I like that mindset. I'm trying 445 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 7: to get there. You can get the Girl's Coy show 446 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 7: like you're ready, I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm always like that. 447 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: People love you for you. 448 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 449 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: And when you like really, I think take that in 450 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: and hone it. It's just like I just gotta go 451 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: up here and be myself. 452 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: And I ended up doing it. 453 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 7: I just can't ever be that calm before the show. 454 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: Is the nerve? Yeah, I think that's could just you 455 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: care though. Yeah, I still get like that before shows 456 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: normally when I go on to show too easy and 457 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: make me I'm like, yo, you too relaxed? Yeah, well 458 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: mess up, So that just shows you care. I don't 459 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: think that's too bad. 460 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 6: So what pushed you to the point of wanting to live, 461 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 6: you know, like this much in your truth and be 462 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 6: this transparent. 463 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: I wanted to grow, you know, I had gotten out 464 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: a relationship when I started this project and healing from that. 465 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 3: You you know, therapy, you realize it's never about the 466 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: person's about you you. So once you like start to 467 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: sit and ask yourself these questions trying to figure out 468 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 3: how to heal from the relationship. The relationship is over with. 469 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 3: It's just like, oh, what are the mirrors in front 470 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: of me? What are the things about me that make 471 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: me feel you know, incomplete or all the things? Why 472 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: do I act like this when this happens. So it 473 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: was like an onion. I was just peeling back, pelling back, 474 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: peeling back, and I. 475 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: Was just like crying, crying every time. 476 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: Year was crazy. Yeah, a lot of solitude, a lot 477 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: of tears, a lot of praying. And I have a 478 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: beautiful village. So my homegirls would tell me, like, yo, 479 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: you your next phase is you gotta let people see 480 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 3: you the human party. You gotta be vulnerable. And so 481 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: I love a good challenge. It was hard, uncomfortable, it 482 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: was not fun, but the other side is so beautiful. 483 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 3: So it's like that you really got to let yourself 484 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: sit in the fire and burn. And some days I 485 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: was like, man, am I gonna feel like this forever? 486 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: But now. 487 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: I was going to ask, like which specific experience led to, 488 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: like the journey of self exploration and self acceptance. 489 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: So it was a breakup. It's like my life album. 490 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a lot of my life, alle pieces of it. 491 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 3: Your relationship was dope, though, Like I learned a lot 492 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: in a relationship about even how to begin this journey. 493 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: You know, they was back to back relationship. So I 494 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: got out of a long one, I had a little 495 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 3: time that got in another one. 496 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: But the second one was just a rebound, really. 497 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 3: You I mean, yes, that happened, but that that wasn't 498 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 3: my my experience. 499 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: It was. 500 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 3: The one the relationship that impacted me the most. I 501 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: wouldn't have become the person I am now without that relationship. 502 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: So they gave me like the starter pack tools you know, 503 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: to figure out. They say people come into your life 504 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 3: for a reason, season or lifetime, and there was definitely 505 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: reason in this. I think it could be multiple things. 506 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, but once it was like now 507 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: you're on your own, you by yourself. 508 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I gotta do the work work, 509 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, is are you ready to answer those questions though, 510 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: because this album is going to be having people ask 511 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: a lot of questions. 512 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: About Yeah, some things that I shared, Yeah, yeah, some 513 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: things I'm okay with and some things I'm okay with, 514 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: like I gave you what I gave you, some things 515 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 3: a a metough, So you know, there's some things I'm 516 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 3: okay with talking about and as others. It's just like 517 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: you don't need to know the rest. 518 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 6: You talked about unplugging, and you also talk about it 519 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 6: on one of them days that you sampled Monica Bier sample. 520 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 6: I kind of wanted to know what was the inspiration 521 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 6: behind it. Did somebody like piss you off? And then 522 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 6: you heard the record and you kind of like went 523 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 6: to a daze, like talk to me about that? 524 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 3: Nah? It was like having my conversation with my homegirls. 525 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: She's my homegirl, ran a biddy, she was a poet 526 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: this stuff. On Eve she was texting me, she was 527 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 3: a list of things people need to know. What makes 528 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: you mad, what makes you sad? Who you in love with? 529 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: Do you like to have sex? Like she was? 530 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: I was like, right, when you have too many friends? 531 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: That you got too many friends? That's doing the works? 532 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 4: Come on now, why like how you. 533 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: I screenshot? And I was like, okay, So I'm in 534 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 3: the studio writing on the white board. I'm like, what 535 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 3: are all the things about me that people I want 536 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: to share? And now was just Aquarius like very you know, 537 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: personable person, but my social battery goes down really fast 538 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: and I don't want to be the don't call me 539 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 3: I want to talk you like that. 540 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 4: I'm very much like that. 541 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 7: I just had a conversation and they're like earlier in 542 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 7: this episode like no, I don't like. 543 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: It's turned off now. So it was just like, Okay, 544 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: that's a part of me that I want to share. 545 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: And especially too because of the pandemic, especially I spent 546 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 3: so much time by myself and I was healing and 547 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: my friends would hit me and I wouldn't probably would 548 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: hit them back for eight months and yeah like eight months, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 549 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: I was not quarantine. 550 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 3: Yeah like nah, you know or if I did it? Yeah, No, 551 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: I was not hitting people back. You had to be 552 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: like in a really really really close circle for me 553 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: to talk to you during that time. 554 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 4: Gotcha. 555 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 3: So and it was just like I heard the song, 556 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 3: so I was like, Yo, that's the perfect flip because 557 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: that's exactly how I feel like, don't take it personal. 558 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 3: It's not personally, it's a me thing. And that's where 559 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: that came from. Like I knew and I wanted it 560 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 3: to feel feel good and not sad, because the very 561 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 3: first version of this album was it was heavy and sad, 562 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't want to make something 563 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: that people can feel, but they don't want to go 564 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: back to it because it's too heavy. So it was like, 565 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 3: let's lighten it up. 566 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: What was it like writing when you was unlearning? 567 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: Like those habits and those beliefs and those behaviors that 568 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: didn't serve you no more? 569 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 3: Man, the writing was so easy, Like when I tell 570 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: you things were poor, it was pouring out like it's 571 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: probably the best writing I've ever done. And I think 572 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: because I was healing and unplugged and just not have 573 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 3: no expectations. I didn't write to have to prove anything, 574 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 3: you know. Before it was like I'm trying to make 575 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 3: my way in the game of trying to get the 576 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: respect and all those things. And it's like, when you 577 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 3: don't care no more, you can be profound. And I 578 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 3: think that's somewhere the best music that you can make, 579 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like the simplest word. They 580 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: don't have to have a crazy metaphor, but people connect 581 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: with it. And I was like, because I was listening 582 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: to Lawrence Unplugged a whole lot during this process, and 583 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: I was just like, she don't have like a lot 584 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: of crazy double ntag and all that, but the thing 585 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: she's saying hitting because they just real it's profound lyricism, 586 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: and I was like, dag, that's what I want to 587 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 3: work on. But yeah, it was It was just easy 588 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: because I knew myself too. When you're healing and you 589 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: know exactly who you are and how you want to 590 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 3: show up and like you're finding yourself again. I wasn't 591 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: creating through anybody else's perception. Like earlier in my career, 592 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: I had nine, I had grew, I had a beautiful village, 593 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: and because I was so unsure and not confident, and 594 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: you know, we was trying to figure out, like, yo, 595 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 3: how we gonna get you to this next level? Like 596 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: you know, they would be like, let's do a song 597 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: about this, let's lie about this, and I'd be like, yeah, okay, 598 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 3: that rap and it's nothing wrong with like the intention. 599 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: It was beautiful and now it's just like it was 600 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: just all me what you feel. 601 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love when rappers rap about things 602 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: I've never heard before on records, right, So that's why 603 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: I loved mister Ryland the big step of so much, Yo, 604 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm please don't cry. It the same way you got 605 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: a song about dementia, which is something that impacts so 606 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: many of us, Like we all have a loved one 607 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: that you know, stuffering from dementia. I had dementia. Like 608 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: what made you want to speak on that? 609 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: Because it was it was such a big part of 610 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: my life during that time. My aunt, who's my mom's sister, 611 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: oldest sister, helped raise me. So just like all my 612 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: aunt's like my second moms. So when she got diagnosed, 613 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: it hit me like, yo, my grandmother had it, but 614 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: you know, to to sit with somebody and see it progress, 615 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: it was just it was like a It's like, it's 616 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: just a big part of my life and it affects 617 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: me so emotionally, and it was just like I want 618 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: to talk about it, and because I do, know so 619 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: many people that go through it, and that's just I 620 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: was just everything I was feeling. I was just putting 621 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: on paper, you know, And I think people need that, 622 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: but that that's just what it was. Like. I think 623 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: about her all the time, you know, every time I 624 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: go home, that's the first place I go sometimes before 625 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 3: I stop with my mom. And this last time I went, 626 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: I was there for like four hours. We was talking, laughing. 627 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: I think the last hour somebody came in the house 628 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 3: and they was like, you know who that is? She 629 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: was like I don't know. I was like, damn, yeah, yeah, 630 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: it's tough. It's tough. And you know, I think about 631 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: my cousins who's as her kids. So it was just like, 632 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: you know, a story that I wanted to share, Like, 633 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: if you want to know me, this is what I 634 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: go with, This is what I go through when I'm 635 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: with my family. 636 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: Your grandma got to matory yea yeah. 637 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 4: And that's why I say that definitely hurts out. 638 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 7: My father gave my grandmother U birthday party and he 639 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 7: DJs and he does karaoke and she loves to sing 640 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 7: and dance and all of that stuff. Right, and I came, 641 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 7: me and my little sister went and she ain't even 642 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 7: know who I was like you know what I'm saying. 643 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 7: She and I can you can tell? Yeah, because she 644 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 7: don't greet me like that. You know, she called me 645 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 7: Jade or or whatever, and she was just like, oh, 646 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 7: how you how are you? 647 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 4: How you doing? Just like I'm like, you know, a 648 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: regular person. 649 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 7: But then my dad, we like our favorite song to 650 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 7: perform karaoke is Utfo rock sayning rock saying, so you 651 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 7: put that on she she instantly knew who I was, 652 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 7: and she came up. She said, where is Robin? 653 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 4: Robin is my mother. 654 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 7: I'm like, I've been here for two hours and you 655 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 7: just now so I'm getting smart with her, but my 656 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 7: grandmother is a fire crack. 657 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: At the same time, She's like, yeah, where is your mother? 658 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 4: Ad I don't want to see you. I want to 659 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 4: see Robin. You know what I'm saying. 660 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 7: So I still treat it the same way, you know, 661 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 7: because she wouldn't want me to treat her like, oh, Grandma, 662 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 7: it's gonna be okay, Like we've never been like that. 663 00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: You know. 664 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 7: She still hard on me and all that type of stuff. 665 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 7: But that to relate to that that it does hurt. 666 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 4: It's like a. 667 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: Hard, hard disease and go through like the mind goes 668 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: and the memory. Yeah, you know, but same thing. My 669 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 3: family is the same way. Like I remember the first time, 670 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 3: like she was really doing things where I could really 671 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: see it, because I could always see it before, but 672 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: I was I remember the day and my other aunt 673 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: came over and we were just talking about it. She 674 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: just said she busts out laughing, you know, like talking 675 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: to pictures or whatever. I like, I was in my feelings. 676 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: She started laughing. She's like, girl, we got laugh to 677 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: keep from crying. And that just changed me. Like so 678 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 3: it's beautiful to see, like how the family takes care 679 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: of her and we just whatever she on that day, 680 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: we just all a part of it. 681 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 682 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: That's good and it makes it a little easier, but yeah, 683 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: it's it's tough. 684 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: Is it true? You credits and not late with helping you. 685 00:32:53,040 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: Finishing it. She's singing, and I'm sany thin can sing, 686 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah. And when I worked we worked on 687 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: the movie On a Come Up in twenty twenty one, 688 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: and she brought me on to help with the music 689 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: and coach the actor. But I got to see how 690 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: much of a music fan, especially hip hop, she was, 691 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: because like I'd send her demos and stuff. She tell 692 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: me about the beat and what she liked, and I 693 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: was like, you know what you're talking about. You know, 694 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: we talked about music a lot. But she was a 695 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: big part of the healing process for one, right, you know, 696 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: healing goals and phases. So she had put me onto 697 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: this course it's called how to Bemagnetic dot com or whatever, 698 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: and I did the course, and it was so instrumental, 699 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: like meditation, like she helped me get through over the hump. 700 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 701 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: So we was in New York at a premiere and 702 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: she was always asking about the album because you know, 703 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: we talked about pretty much everything. And she was like, 704 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: you're not finished with it yet, just like everybody on 705 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 3: the edit that like, I'm still not finished. She was like, 706 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 3: what's taking so long. I was like, I don't know. 707 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 3: I said, I feel like it's too gray, like I 708 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 3: see music and color. Sometimes I don't know. I think 709 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: it's too gray. It might be too sad, like I'm 710 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: just overthinking it. I could do that sometimes, And so 711 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: she was like, play me some songs. So I played 712 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: like three or four songs and she was like, it's 713 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 3: not too sad, It's exactly what people need. Finished the album. 714 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 3: And because she said that, I was like, okay, and 715 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: I finished the album. Other than I probably would still 716 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: be recording right now. 717 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 6: I believe I believe that you. I do love having 718 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 6: Felicia on the project. 719 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: I thought that was the full name. 720 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, okay, I know what I. 721 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 3: Was talking about. 722 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: Sell it out. 723 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 6: You have Felicia Rashad Narrate and I love on the 724 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 6: intro the only way out is in? 725 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 5: And do you even know who you are? 726 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 6: I'm like, this project really takes you on a ride, 727 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 6: but you having her narrate, I feel like it was 728 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 6: so vital, just because as a black woman, you know, 729 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 6: she's one of the ones that we looked. 730 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 5: Up to do, to Cosby, even to night Lathan. 731 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 6: I feel like, yeah, hell Erica, you got the holy 732 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 6: girl black woman. You know what I'm saying on this album. 733 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 6: So it's it's just been fire. But how did you 734 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 6: connect with her? 735 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: It was It was a lot easier than I thought 736 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 3: because I was like, I think big, I'm gonna always 737 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: go big, and I'm like all they can say is no. 738 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 3: So I was just prepared. I would tell my manager. 739 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 3: I was like, if she doesn't, we can't get hurt. 740 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: And this person, this person, this person, back up. But 741 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: my manager got information on her manager and they just 742 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: she sent her a request and at first they were like, 743 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 3: we want to hear some music. And I was busy 744 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: at the time, but before I could even send it, 745 00:35:54,239 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 3: it was two days when they went by. No. 746 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 5: I didn't no, no, no, you That's not what happened. 747 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 3: I was to get you know, the song. I'm trying 748 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: to figure out what exactly the sender because the album 749 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 3: went all the way done. So I was like, you know, 750 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: I was moving around, so it was maybe two days later. 751 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: I was traveling, but I think like they asked for 752 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 3: the music, and then I think the next day she 753 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 3: was just like yes, you know, I don't know if 754 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: they google, I don't know what happened. But I was like, 755 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: my mouth was on the floor. I was like what 756 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 3: And so I wrote out the parts and sent them 757 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 3: to her and she recorded it and she's so good, 758 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 3: like I just I wrote out my part in her 759 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 3: part and she did it on a voice memo in 760 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: her hotel. But she's she's just so good, like you 761 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: hear it. But I chose her for that, you know, 762 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 3: for the very reason or what she represents to the 763 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 3: black community. To us. I was watching The Matrix and 764 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: I was so intrigued by the relationship of Neo and 765 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: the Oracle. You know, it was like that was the 766 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 3: journey I was on and how she got it him. 767 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: So when we were in the studio and I was 768 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 3: with Black Odyssey in Austin, Texas, they helped executive produce 769 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 3: the album with us one, They were like, how are 770 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: you gonna put pieces together? And that's what I thought of, 771 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: And she was the only voice that I heard. 772 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: So, so what's her color? 773 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: When if you say the album was black and white 774 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: at one or gray at one point, what was her 775 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: color coloring it? 776 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 3: She got to be like a brown, brown, orange, yellow, warm, 777 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: very warm the light. That's that's what she represents. 778 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so what color is the song? 779 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 5: Like Diary of a Mad that's red. 780 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: I see blood, no hesitation, blood on the floor. 781 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: Depressure of that record that you said. You know, people 782 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: always like, oh, that's the stereotype. 783 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 2: Angry black woman that you like owning that? 784 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 3: Like, I got right, Yeah, we'd be mad sometimes when 785 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 3: I was. I was, you know, one of the questions 786 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 3: with what makes you mad lyon niggas, Like and I 787 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 3: just thought about every relationship I've been in and there's 788 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 3: be some lying niggas, and so I'd be balking before 789 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 3: like I learned how to communicate or whatever, like you know, 790 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 3: I'm super chill, but when I go there, I go there. 791 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: And I was thinking about I was like, oh, I 792 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 3: used to yell all the time. It cuts people out. 793 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 3: I might throw a chair not at them when they leave, 794 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, Like so I was like, yo, this is 795 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: And when I was creating this out, I created it differently. 796 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 3: I would get on Pinterests and I would find pictures. 797 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 3: It would be colors, palette sometimes or words or just photos. 798 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 3: And with Diving Mad Uh Diary of a Mad Bitch, 799 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: there were two photos. It was one of a dovermen 800 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 3: growling and I was like, that's how I feel. Niggas 801 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 3: be messing with me like that. And then it was 802 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 3: one it had hands and honey was dripping down really 803 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 3: slow and I was and I showed the honeymoon that 804 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: s one. I was like, what does this sound like? 805 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 3: And that's when he made the beat and it sounded 806 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 3: so angry and aggressive. The drums he did them in reverse, 807 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 3: so it sounds like it's sticky pulling. And I was like, oh, 808 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: this is my mask song. Who I'm mad at? Nick's 809 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 3: so yeah, I own that, I be mad, I'll be masked. 810 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 6: I really like how you're using the Pinterest images to 811 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 6: create the sound. 812 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 5: I love a good move board too. 813 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 3: I do that for everything. 814 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 6: Anytime I got to like execute something, I need to see, 815 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 6: you know, help and for the vision in order to execute. 816 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 6: So that's that's dope. And also just outside from just 817 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 6: the music, I love the interview that you did with Ericabadu, 818 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 6: very very dope, and it's just it's just real, like 819 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 6: you and her two people that like we can look 820 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 6: up to and chime in and get like a direct 821 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 6: reflection of us back. So seeing you guys have a 822 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 6: conversation was dope. But what inspired you guys to have 823 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 6: a three Am combo? 824 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: To have the conversation that was really part of the rollout, 825 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 3: like we did it in chapters. So got with the 826 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 3: label to my management team and they were like, how 827 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 3: are we gonna tell this story to the people? And 828 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 3: we had a plan of like the singles we wanted 829 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 3: to release. And I was sitting at home during the 830 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 3: holidays and I I called Sherry. I was like, I'm 831 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 3: the single plan we have, don't it doesn't feel good 832 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 3: to me cause it was like raw. First, it was 833 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 3: like everybody know I can rap. Like they got to 834 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 3: see something different, they got to see the human part 835 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 3: of me. And so I was like three Am has 836 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 3: to be in there. You know. It was like rap 837 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 3: is back ars unveiling which was standing tall and then 838 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: Erica three Am was unconditional, you know, learning to love yourself. 839 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: So we we knew, like it can't just be music 840 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 3: like people like rap. People don't know about you, so 841 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 3: they have to see you have conversations. And so we 842 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 3: knew three Am was gonna come out, and we was like, 843 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 3: we need to have a conversation piece about it. And 844 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: she's so good to talk to. I felt like it 845 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 3: was something to have for people to go back and 846 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 3: reference because there's so many conversations now men this, women 847 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: that and relationships and you know, it's just like, yo, 848 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 3: what happened to just love? Even in music like a 849 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 3: lot of sex songs? What about love? And that was it? 850 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 3: Like I just knew, like, well that's the chapter. So 851 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 3: that's that. That has to be the conversation. But Erica 852 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 3: is so insightful and wise that I already knew she 853 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 3: from Drop magim No from out of this World. Yeah 854 00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 3: that the. 855 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,959 Speaker 2: Room as queen mother goddess. 856 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 4: Right there, I would cras me both. 857 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 2: That's why you tweet no such thing as female hip hop? 858 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that. 859 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 2: What is that elaborate on that? 860 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just hip hop. Like somebody they try 861 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 3: to rebottle me like, there are women who make songs 862 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: specifically for women. That's called an audience, sir, audiences women, 863 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 3: But what she does is hip hop. Like when you 864 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: when you label something, labels are just there to separate us. 865 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 3: So if you labeling it female hip hop and you're 866 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 3: putting it in a category with this is just for females, 867 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: and you're looking at it a certain way, it's like, no, 868 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 3: they do hip hop, they rap, but their audience may 869 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 3: be mostly women, you know, And and I just hate 870 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 3: the separation and labels. It's already hard for us. It's 871 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 3: just another form of sexism to yeah, you know, like 872 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 3: I don't make female hip hop. I'll wrap for everybody. 873 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 3: You get it or you don't. And my you know, 874 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 3: my fan base shows that got men, women, older people, 875 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 3: younger people. It's just that's what it is. So it's like, 876 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 3: we're not about to do that, and I'm gonna advocate 877 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 3: for it. 878 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: You do address it a little bit on Asteroids because 879 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: you said if I went basically got to be in 880 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: the rape, if I had to dick. I feel that 881 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: way too, So there's a lot of sexism still in 882 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: it because I'm like, there's nothing that these guys are 883 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: doing that Rhapsod is not doing better. You're not gonna 884 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: tell me you don't listen to Rhapsody and just hear 885 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: somebody barring motherfuckers up. 886 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 3: Don't be trying to hear me because you don't got 887 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 3: a dick, ain't got you, ain't got to hit. 888 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 2: Hit of the dick. 889 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna just be real with myself. It was superficial, 890 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: like that stuff matter to them, you know, because it's 891 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 3: they've been programmed to think that now that people people 892 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 3: don't know how to think for themselves. So it's like 893 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 3: if it ain't got mad numbers of chart and it 894 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 3: don't matter. 895 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: Like I disagree because they don't mention women in the 896 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: greatest debates. Ni not she shouldn't be, but Nicki's not 897 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: in the Golt debate. Lauren's not really in the goat debate. 898 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: They acknowledge them being dope, but not like the dope 899 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 1: dope rapidly they are. 900 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we got to change that. You're out 901 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 3: of here we in the debate. Baby. I just saw 902 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 3: Lauren perform on Jimmy Fallon. She spent a verse. I 903 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 3: was like, my god, when it was yeah, I don't 904 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 3: know if it's gonna be on anything, but if you 905 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 3: go on Jimmy Fallon, oh man, you just gotta go 906 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 3: listen to the verse. 907 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: What problems you to the address questions about your sexuality? 908 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 2: Understand tall records, because it was. 909 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 3: It would be conversations throughout the years of my career, 910 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 3: and so it was like things that I internalized to 911 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 3: like the way that I dress or whatever. People assume 912 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 3: things about you or because you have you don't know 913 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 3: who I've been in relationship. I'm private, so they just 914 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 3: assume who you are. So it's just like, let me 915 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 3: just address it head on. Then you know you hear 916 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: it from me. 917 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: You said the judgment saw me. 918 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: They wonder if I'm gonna eat the Kouchie fan all 919 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: because I choose the style and sneakers and some baggy 920 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: pants used to make me aggie. You want to blackout 921 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: like the Aggie fans. 922 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 2: I heard that line. 923 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 4: I thought about not yo, of course you did. 924 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: You. Of course you did the same, same, same, That's 925 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 3: what I'm yo. I'd be like, it's like if you 926 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 3: dress like this, oh you do not like men because 927 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 3: you're not catering to men of what we think or 928 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 3: what we think men want to be catered to, and 929 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 3: now the conversation I'll be seeing men having it, like yo, 930 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 3: we miss having some imagination about it. 931 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 4: Do you hear me? 932 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 7: That's why I'm like, Yo, Y're gonna show us everything 933 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 7: somewhere listening to the man if with these new you know, 934 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 7: newer brands of women are trying to uppeal the men 935 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 7: all the time, listen to them. They don't always want 936 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 7: to get online and see titties and are listening and 937 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 7: misplace belly buttons and all that, Like they. 938 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 3: Don't want to see that all the time. 939 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 7: Like I'd rather not even see a stomachies. 940 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. 941 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 3: I feel like more. 942 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 6: Difficult to be taken seriously when you were trying, like 943 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 6: if they're focused on trying to get with me or 944 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 6: trying to bag me or like you know what I mean. 945 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 5: So I would rather just be the bro. 946 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 6: I rather look at me and just want to push 947 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 6: me forward to what I'm actually trying to achieve. 948 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 5: And you're trying to. 949 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 7: Be the sexiest ever, like when you are out of bro, 950 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 7: but when you are like in your most natural element, 951 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 7: like you know what I'm saying, You're not caked up, 952 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 7: You're not like that is naturally pretty to me, Like 953 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 7: you naturally pretty to me. That's how I dress on stage. 954 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 7: And I can bake anything in the show, you know, 955 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 7: but they want me to be a stud real bad. 956 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, shut up. 957 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 2: Showing three four to cloth. That was showing your stuff off, 958 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 2: Like that was. 959 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 3: You fly as hell. I'm gonna affirm that to you. 960 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 3: And yeah, and it's it's not even just in music. 961 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 3: Like I hear women in the business they say, like 962 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 3: I sometimes I cover up just so I can go 963 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 3: in the meeting. We can have a straight on meeting. 964 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 3: I ain't about to do that. But yeah, it's just 965 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 3: like everything is a full displays. Like you know, I 966 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 3: like to I like to have you guessing, like you know, 967 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 3: the days we do want to pop out and be. 968 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 5: Like damn, like yeah, let that reaction. 969 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's yeah, and it's not comfortable. 970 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 3: I like to be comfortable and just be real with them. 971 00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 3: Hills hurt my. 972 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 6: But you know, also it's like a weird it's a 973 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 6: weird like social pressure because it's like, all right, in 974 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 6: the workplace, you got to be respected, but then like 975 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 6: with your homegirls, you know, you still want to embrace 976 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 6: your into femininity. But then you know, with a black household, 977 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 6: it's like, whatever you do, don't be a whole, don't 978 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 6: look like a whole, don't embarrass me like a whole, 979 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 6: don't do anything, you know what I mean. So it's 980 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 6: just like, all right, how do I juggle not embarrassing you, 981 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 6: but being myself but still embracing like my femininity that 982 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 6: I'm growing into, you know. So I like how you 983 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 6: talk about it, because it is a journey, you know, 984 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 6: to get through. No, but just don't act like black parents, 985 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 6: because I'm sure you just to like, I'm sure it's 986 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 6: too short change not yet. 987 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 2: I haven't had to say that yet. 988 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 5: No, yeah, it's coming. 989 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 6: It's in your back pocket, I know. 990 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: To say, that's how people are going to perceive. 991 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're gonna I think, no, you you're 992 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 6: gonna jump out the window and say you're dressed like 993 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 6: a whole. Say you know what, baby, I don't want 994 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 6: you to think your whole, but you know, other people, Yes. 995 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: That's it's how I dress. I would say something like that, 996 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, but that's not a part of him. 997 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, No, I don't think so. No. 998 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 6: I was just saying, like all the pressures from different 999 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 6: capacities and then trying to balance it and figure out 1000 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 6: who you are throughout that. 1001 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 4: Because you want to be respected. You want to be respected. 1002 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 7: Even the women who don't, I mean, like who go 1003 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,760 Speaker 7: to extra out of show all, they want to be respected. 1004 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 7: They just want to fit in so bad, you know, 1005 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 7: and keep up with what you know they think is 1006 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 7: the standard. 1007 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But they just be wanting 1008 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 4: in respect. 1009 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 6: But you know, it's hard to have both. You know, women, 1010 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 6: it's hard to have attention and respect. 1011 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 5: It's hard to. 1012 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 6: Get attention and respect at the same time. 1013 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 5: It's like you got to pick. Well, that's how I feel. 1014 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 5: What do you think. 1015 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 3: I think it's it's easy. You just have to know 1016 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 3: who you are and show up as that confidently. You 1017 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 3: know people people can see that and they respect it 1018 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 3: and they attracted to it. That's what I think. 1019 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 7: You know, Like, it's not I need to be respected 1020 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 7: straight off the rep you know. And and what was 1021 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 7: that when you said and it's a girl, big attention 1022 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 7: with respect. 1023 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just said that the same. 1024 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 6: There are some people who might show a lot more 1025 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 6: and get a lot more. 1026 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 3: To what kind of attention I guess is the question 1027 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 3: that's true. You know what I'm saying, what type of 1028 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 3: attention are you looking for? And that that changes the answer. Yeah, 1029 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 3: good point. 1030 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 4: Very excited about your packaging. Your promotion is crazy. 1031 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 7: Always got a creative way to appeal to your fans, 1032 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,280 Speaker 7: like when she does past the and she we always 1033 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,240 Speaker 7: have your music show. We're saying it was like show 1034 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,919 Speaker 7: tell us, like little creative ways that you be like. 1035 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 4: Like that one time. 1036 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, like the shirt, Yeah, the T shirt. Like I'm like, okay, 1037 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 7: that's creative. Shiit she that's dope. That's how you really 1038 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 7: know who youre connected to as well, like your fans 1039 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 7: are really loyal to you. 1040 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite things about putting out an album, 1041 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 3: Like the music is of course, but then it's like, 1042 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 3: all right, that part is fun, like with how we 1043 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 3: gonna roll this out with this one. I watched the 1044 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 3: movie Air. I don't know if you've seen it. No, 1045 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 3: it's it's about yeah, it's about yesterday. 1046 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 1047 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 3: I was so inspired by the branding and marketing of it, 1048 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 3: and it was just like it ain't about the shoe 1049 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 3: it's about the person wearing the shoe. I was like, 1050 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 3: I called the team. I was like, I want to 1051 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 3: roll this out like a Nike ad for a shoe, 1052 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 3: but with the album, how we gonna do that? And 1053 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 3: you know, we really want it again, Like I was 1054 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 3: in the place of like free, like I'm not worried 1055 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 3: about Billboard or nothing like that. It's just like, let's 1056 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 3: just focus on the fan base. So you know, we 1057 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 3: just made them up part of it, and we just 1058 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 3: told the story from that way, just being organic and 1059 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 3: the ideas were just flowing. My mind worked like that. 1060 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 3: I can't explain it. But yeah, I'm glad people are 1061 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 3: being filmed too. 1062 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 4: I can see that. Yeah, thank you. 1063 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: I just guys, got a couple more questions. I love 1064 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: to stand tall record and I understand Tall records. You 1065 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: talk about the challenges of living with anxiety, yeah, and 1066 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: the difficulty in finding effective solutions because you even mentioned 1067 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: how the doctors struggled to identify what was what was 1068 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,839 Speaker 1: even your issue here? 1069 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 3: Well, they identified it, I just didn't accept it. It 1070 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 3: was a journey. Like I have Graves disease and thyroid 1071 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 3: disease and I was diagnosed in two thousand and nine ten. 1072 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 3: But before that, probably from when I graduated high school 1073 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 3: uptil maybe I was late twenties. I would wake up 1074 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 3: out of my sleep running for the door, like because 1075 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 3: I felt like, I like, I can't breathe, I'm about 1076 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 3: to die. Somebody gonna find me because I'm not about 1077 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 3: lay in his bed like. I would just get anxious, 1078 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 3: and it got worse and worse, and it was one 1079 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 3: day I just I had lost like fifteen pounds. I 1080 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 3: got down to one hundred and ten pounds. It wasn't 1081 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 3: exercise and eating whatever I wanted, having more panic attacks, 1082 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 3: and so I was diagnosed. And I used to think 1083 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 3: the anxiety came from there. They'd be like, don't drink caffeine, 1084 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 3: you know, to make it right. And I'm doing all 1085 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 3: these yeah, and I'm doing all these things, and I'm 1086 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 3: you know, I'm still getting anxious. Like now, it's just 1087 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 3: not at night. I could just be driving somewhere and 1088 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 3: it would just hit me. And you know, when you 1089 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 3: have anxiety, if you feel like you're really about to die, yes, 1090 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 3: I would go to yard, called it the ambulance, and 1091 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 3: they'd be like, nothing's wrong with you. Go take a 1092 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 3: tones's gas or it's just anxiety. Do you want anxiety medication? 1093 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 3: I'd be like, no, I'm not taking that. And it 1094 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 3: got to a point where it was just like I 1095 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,280 Speaker 3: have to that doesn't work. So I had to figure 1096 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,720 Speaker 3: out a way to calm myself down instead of working 1097 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 3: on myself mentally. It would be like I'm gonna drive 1098 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 3: to the ear. I'm gonna just sit in the parking 1099 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 3: lot until I calm down. Because for me, it was like, 1100 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 3: at least if it's really something happening, you're right there. 1101 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 3: So I would do these things. And a friend of 1102 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 3: mine they were like they were with me when I 1103 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 3: had a panic attack on time, and they were like, 1104 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 3: it's nothing's happening to you. You don't understand how strong 1105 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 3: and powerful your mind is. You're creating that, like when 1106 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 3: you think about it, you create physical responses. And you know, 1107 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 3: I sat with him. I'm just you know, they sent 1108 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 3: me youtubes and I watch youtubes about it. Your mind 1109 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,399 Speaker 3: is powerful, solid. First I had to accept that, right, 1110 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 3: and I think once you accept it, then you gain 1111 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 3: your power back. So I haven't had a panic attack 1112 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,320 Speaker 3: since probably mid twenty twenty. And it was not only 1113 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 3: getting my mind right and elevating my consciousness and awareness. 1114 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 3: I was exercising every day. I changed my diet. I 1115 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 3: stopped eating pork. I don't eat beef for maybe like 1116 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 3: once or twice a year, you know, drinking a lot 1117 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 3: more water. And now I can feel one coming on, 1118 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 3: but it don't even get there because I already tell 1119 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 3: myself what's happening, and it don't even affect. Yeah, so 1120 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 3: I haven't had one since. 1121 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 2: That's why you said in the rap. You can believe 1122 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:15,720 Speaker 2: what you choose. 1123 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 3: Yep ye. You create your own experiences. 1124 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 2: And I just noticed this we eat, we eat each other, 1125 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 2: that's your label. 1126 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I. 1127 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 3: Wasn't ready to announce it. 1128 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 2: Each other Jambling rock Nation. 1129 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh yeah, artist. 1130 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 2: Album, right, yeah, but. 1131 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 3: It's okay, it's now. I could still have my moment 1132 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 3: when that time comes. But yes, I started. This is 1133 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 3: my last album on Jamling Records, and that's my family forever. 1134 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 3: But it got to a point where I felt like, 1135 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 3: you know, I've learned so much. I feel like I 1136 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 3: reached the ceiling. And it's like you leave the nest 1137 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 3: many times over in life. You know, you get eighteen, 1138 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 3: leave the home, you leave the nest, and I feel 1139 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 3: like you do it many times over. So you know, 1140 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,919 Speaker 3: I told going Knife, I was like, I think it's 1141 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 3: time for me, you know, to try this on my own. 1142 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 3: So I have a business partner, Andre Mego, who's also 1143 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 3: an artist, and our first artist that we signed together 1144 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 3: is Nico brim Nao love it. Yeah, So I'm excited to, 1145 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 3: you know, introduce that more to the world. 1146 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 5: That's why he got his own interlude on the projects. 1147 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 3: While he has project Yeah. 1148 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 1: Well big ceo rap you know what I mean. It's 1149 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: a pleasure. Thank you for your time as always. 1150 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank y'all for making space for me, thank 1151 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 3: you for always saying my name your like. I appreciate the. 1152 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 2: Love absolutely, Please don't cry. 1153 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: It's out right now and it's rhap City y'all. It's 1154 00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club.