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Speaker 1: the first time in quite some time back in this

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Speaker 1: since I've been in this room doing this show. We

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Speaker 1: will have a full schedule, by the way, next week,

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Speaker 1: and then the week after we actually will take a

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Speaker 1: week off right at the as middle of March, early March,

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Speaker 1: on the show. I have a pretty cool March Madness

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Speaker 1: up in a few minutes. Demans, good morning, How are

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Speaker 1: you great to see you?

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Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm doing great for thee pops.

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Speaker 1: Uh so we are too. Just full disclosure here a

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Speaker 1: very interesting part of the sports calendar in that I

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Speaker 1: love the NFL reel offseason. I love the free agency period,

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Speaker 1: the draft, all that stuff. Right now, though, NFL wise,

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Speaker 1: the NBA right now, there were two NBA recaps this

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Speaker 1: So we will get to all of that, but first

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Speaker 1: I gotta remind you, guys, this episode of What's Right

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Speaker 1: of course, as always, bring us straight to voicemail. So

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Speaker 1: James Harden has I guess, a slight fracture in his

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Speaker 1: Would feel like if he played in Denver Aubrey and

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Speaker 1: George Pickens. Totally serious about that, Like if you're I

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Speaker 1: Aubrey would be a legit game changer. All right. Reminder

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Speaker 1: was a little you versus Daniel last night. Your Celtics

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so it Denver cooked us in the second half.

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Speaker 2: We were coming off of back to back, but Sham's

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Speaker 2: reports that their reinforcements coming back. Tatum is practicing full

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Speaker 1: Let me, let me rank them without Tatum. First, Okay,

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Speaker 1: given Boston their flowers and been very very I think

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Speaker 1: With all of that said, I would put them at

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Speaker 1: come back. If Tatum doesn't come back, demons, I would

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Speaker 1: have the following teams in no particular order, but the

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Speaker 1: I do not believe they can win four rounds without

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Speaker 1: so the conversation surrounding Tatum and his potential return should

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Speaker 1: a really good team. But if it's one winner in

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Speaker 1: it that was not even you know, the Nuggets have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's so if you got Tatum and

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Speaker 2: he wants to play, he's obviously, I don't think he

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Speaker 1: is the other thing that I think is important to

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Speaker 1: Peyton Pritchard is averaging thirty three minutes per game. He

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Speaker 1: He will be taking minutes from Houser, who again is

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Speaker 1: They are Jalen Brown last year, I'm just gonna look

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Speaker 1: All right, Demanse, let's get to the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: So Tuesday, Luca had a chance to close out the

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00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: game against Orlando. It kind of passed up on the

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00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: shot through it toll Lebron Lebron shot missed it. Last

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Speaker 2: year you said that Lebron will find a way to

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Speaker 2: mess with his team and make it work. Do you

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Speaker 2: think it's time to walk that back.

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Speaker 1: Well, Listen, the Lakers have some roster construction issues. That's

461
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: the biggest problem is they don't have enough shooting or defense,

462
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: which are the two most important things in the modern NBA.

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Speaker 1: So that that has nothing to do with the Luca

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00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Lebron pairing. Now, the defense has to do with the

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00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: fact that Luca doesn't defend, Austin can't defend, and Lebron's

466
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: forty one. So like those that part is but that's

467
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: not about Meshon. Yeah, as far as the mession goes.

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Speaker 1: Here is the statistical reality of the Lakers right now.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers when Luca and Austin are on the court

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00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: without Lebron are awesome, great net rating. And the Lakers

471
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: when Lebron is on the court with just bench guys

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00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: are awesome, great net rating. But when the three of

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00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: them are on the court together, it's a disaster. And

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00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: I happen to think that's more to do with the

475
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: defensive limitations when those three guys are on the court

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Speaker 1: than guys not adjusting. Because here is a shocking fact.

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Speaker 1: By you know what, maybe it's not shocking, just an

478
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: eye opening fact. Lebron of his twenty three year career

479
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: has the lowest usage percentage of any season of his

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00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: career right now. The maybe somewhat shocking fact is Luca

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00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: of his eight year career has the highest usage percentage

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00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: he's ever had. And he was on some teams in

483
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: Dallas where he was the only guy who could score.

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Speaker 1: So this is the highest usage Luca's ever had, the

485
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Speaker 1: lowest usage Lebron's ever had on percentage of the time

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Speaker 1: on the ball. This year, Lebron is down to twenty

487
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: three percent, Austin is at thirty four percent and Luca

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00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: is at a eye popping forty one percent. So Lebron

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00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: has adjusted, and by the way, he somewhat instantly. Last year,

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00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: Lebron was at thirty one percent on ball and Luca

491
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: was at thirty seven. This year, Lebron has dropped down

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00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: to twenty three, Luca's jumped up to forty one, and

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00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: Austin went from thirty percent last year to thirty four percent.

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00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: So that part they haven't and their only path forward

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00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: demons was going to be score one thirty a night.

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00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: They have they right now the number ten offense in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. They need to have a top three offense

498
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: because the defense was going to was going to suffer.

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Speaker 1: And so they are just squarely not a championship contending roster.

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00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: And the only path they had to championship contention was

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Speaker 1: Luca playing the best ball of his very decorated, amazing career,

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00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: and that particularly since he came back from the hamstring,

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Speaker 1: hasn't happened.

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Speaker 2: And the culture over the go ahead Cook, I mean

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00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: you got say again, I mean Clint Cappella. You got

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Aiden coming out saying that they want me to

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Speaker 2: be Clint Capella I'm not Clint Capella, but Clint Capella

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Speaker 2: is better than DeAndre Aiden and I and that's your

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Speaker 2: big I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: So listen, I I DeAndre Aiden his first team all

511
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: time lack of self award excuse. Yeah, the Lakers would

512
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: love to have prime Clint Capella. Prime Clint Capella would

513
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: be just perfect for I'm not talking about Clint Capella

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00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 1: now a dozen years into his career.

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00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: No, but when he was on the Rockets, yes.

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00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: And his first or his first couple of years on

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00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: the Hawks, I'm gonna give you good defense, catch lobs, rebound.

518
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: I can't shoot free throws, but whatever, like that is

519
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: the exact type of big man that would be perfect

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00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: for Bron and Luca and so and that was their

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00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: big offseason move. So I don't I mean, listen, they

522
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: are just what they are. If you catch the Lakers

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00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: on their best night, they look scary. But and that

524
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: that magic game. And as far as Luca not taking

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00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: that shot, I just don't know what to say about it.

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00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, that's not Lebron's fault, he didn't shoot.

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00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a molding thing. That's just but

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00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: it also I mean it might be confusing for Luca,

529
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: like is this my team? Like should I be taking

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00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: the last shot?

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Speaker 3: But but I mean the play was drawn up for him, right, Ah,

532
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 3: the the play was drawn up for him, And I

533
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: mean credit to JJ.

534
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: They got exactly what they wanted so and Luca wasn't

535
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: like afraid of the moment. Luca is a killer. It

536
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: was just weird. But it's also weird that Luca has

537
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: not taken a shot this year to tire or take

538
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: the lead with ninety seconds or less left. Ye. I

539
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: think Lebron's taken six, Austin's taken five, Ruie's taken a handful,

540
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: and Luke hasn't taken one. That is odd.

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Speaker 2: His tenure so far, only.

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Speaker 1: Luca's Yeah, at this point disappointing, right. I mean the

543
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: playoff I thought they I thought they got the exact

544
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: playoff matchup they wanted last year in Minnesota and they

545
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: got blown off the court. That was a Minnesota team

546
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: that Luca had just beaten in to go to the

547
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: NBA Finals with Dallas the year before, and this year

548
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: they are uh, you know, Luca has not appeared to

549
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: improve on the things he needed to improve on, most

550
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: notably conditioning and defense, Like he's dealt with a few

551
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: nagging injuries and the defense has been as bad as ever.

552
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: With that said, he's averaging he's the scoring champ right now.

553
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: He's averaging thirty two and a half points a game.

554
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: He's giving you thirty two, eight and nine a night.

555
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: So it's hard to you know, he's been he's been

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00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: night tonight awesome. And it's still a little disappointing because

557
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: that you know, every year it's like this will be

558
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: the year Luca wins MVP. It's not gonna be this year,

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00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: and so that part is that part is disappointing. All right,

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00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: let's uh, we can do quick Lebron Vegas thing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah. So there was an article that talked

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00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: about Lebron maybe coming out after retirement and with Rich

563
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: Paul investing in a new Las Vegas team with expansion coming,

564
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: could you see Lebron actually getting into this.

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00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: Well, Listen, he has been very open forever that he

566
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: wants to own an NBA team and he wants to

567
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: own the Vegas team.

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00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The problem is the numbers have gotten insane. You know,

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00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: Lebron's done incredibly well on the court and even better

571
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: off the court. But they're talking about the expansion fee,

572
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: the money you gotta, the check you got to write

573
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: to the NBA for them to distribute to the other

574
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: thirty owners could be six billion dollars. They ain't got that.

575
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: They ain't got close to that. Now, the story was

576
00:41:53,440 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: could Rich sell Clutch Sports, which is worth I'm pretty

577
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: sure well north of a billion? And Lebron owns a

578
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: steak in that, a good steak in that, I think.

579
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I also think it would be really

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00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: good for the league for Lebron to be an owner.

581
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: When Michael Jordan wanted to be an owner, he kind

582
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: of got cut a sweetheart deal. It does not appear

583
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: the league is going to do that for Lebron. So

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00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what the path is. That's a lot

585
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: of money. It's a lot of money, and to need

586
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: it liquid and in cash, obviously you'd have to take

587
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Speaker 1: on other investors.

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00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: But I do Ron get like a massive loan with

589
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Speaker 2: like the amount of money that he that he makes,

590
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Speaker 2: so I can take out a loan right now today.

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00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: But Lebron obviously has much, you know.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing I don't Yes, I think Lebron

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Speaker 1: has you know, exceptional prece crazy. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: he could get a loan for five billion dollars Bill,

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Speaker 1: I don't you know what I mean? So I don't.

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Speaker 1: But again, now I'm talking over my skis. I don't

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Speaker 1: I you know, I but I I think it would

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Speaker 1: let's get to the other NBA from last night.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so last night Detroit defeated a depleted oka

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Speaker 2: See team. Uh it's kind of crazy where we are

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year, We're just saying, who's

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Speaker 2: they could use lose home court advantage. What's going on

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Speaker 2: with okay seeing over the Western.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, so this was I mean Oka See last

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00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: night didn't have five of their top leading scorers. Okay,

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00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: so we can throw that game in the trash. However,

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00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: they are now ten to eight in their last eighteen

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Speaker 1: after starting twenty four in one. So after starting twenty

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Speaker 1: four and one, they are twenty one and fourteen, which

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00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: is good. That's a sixty percent winning percentage. So that's

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Speaker 1: not but it's not. You know, the sixty percent winning percentage,

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Speaker 1: just for context, is what a little bit worse than

633
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Speaker 1: the Timberwolves have done all year. It's a little bit

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00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: better than the Raptors have done all year. If you

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Speaker 1: win sixty percent of your games all year long, six

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00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: point six times eighty two, you win forty nine games. Okay,

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00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: So like that's that's who they've been for a big stretch,

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00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: ten and eight in your last eighteen. That's what the

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00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: Heat have been all year long, basically, And so the

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00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: question is flawed all of a sudden or board. My

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00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,719
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Speaker 1: they Now if it were to be Thunder Pistons in

643
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: the finals, they wouldn't have home court. The Spurs have

644
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: sixteen losses, the Thunder have fifteen losses. If they finished

645
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: with the same record, the Spurs get the one seed

646
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: that absolutely could matter. And as dominant as the Thunder

647
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: looked early in this year, it is of course worth

648
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: remembering that last year in the playoffs that wasn't no case.

649
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: Despite the fact that they won sixty eight games, the

650
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: playoffs were a different animal for them. They needed a

651
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: game seven to get out of Round two against Denver,

652
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: and they needed a game seven in the finals that

653
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: we don't know how that game would have gone had

654
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: Alibert not gotten hurt. So it EDI's super and the

655
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: last champion forget repeat. The last champion to forget make

656
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: the finals. The last champion to make the conference finals

657
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: the year after winning the championship was the final year

658
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: Katie was on the Warriors. Twenty nineteen, the twenty You know,

659
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Raptors didn't sniff it. The twenty twenty

660
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: Lakers didn't sniff it. The twenty twenty one Warriors didn't

661
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs outright. The twenty twenty two hold on, Sorry,

662
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Bucks lost in round two. The

663
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: twenty I'm saying all these years wrong. Let me back up.

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Speaker 1: I apologize. The Raptors won in twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty,

665
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: the Raptors missed the playoffs, I think, or at least didn't.

666
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: It was QUI left. The Lakers won in twenty twenty.

667
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: That year, they lost in round one, I believe. The

668
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: following year, the Bucks won in twenty twenty one. They

669
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: lost in round two in a classic seven game series

670
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: to Boston. The Warriors won in twenty twenty two. They

671
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. The next year. The Nuggets won. In

672
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, they lost in round two in shocking

673
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: fashion to the Timberwolves. The Celtics won in twenty twenty four,

674
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: they lost in round two and shocking fashion to the

675
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: Knicks and the thunder one in twenty twenty five. So

676
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: no one's even come close to defending their title, and

677
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: so it is worth noting. The other thing is this,

678
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: how real are the Spurs and how unprecedented a what

679
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: the Spurs winning the title demonse would mean for Wimby

680
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: is just hard to put into terms. Okay, here is

681
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: the full list of guys who are in the Hall

682
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: of Fame or won a League MVP, who won the

683
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: title their first time in the playoffs. Okay, Manu Ginobili,

684
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: but he was a role player on Duncan's team. Kevin McHale,

685
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: but he was a role player on Birds team. He

686
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: turned into a great player, right, Magic Johnson number one

687
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: pick of the draft, get you know one Finals MVP,

688
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: but he had Kareem who that year was league MVP

689
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: and it was his sixth the league MVP. He was

690
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: on Kareem's team that year. Michael Cooper, who again was

691
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: on Magic's team. And then the one guy who first

692
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: time in the playoffs, we win the championship and I'm

693
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: unquestionably the best guy Bill Walton. Bill Walton with the

694
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Speaker 1: Blazers in the late seventies. Here are for the twelve

695
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: greatest players ever demons. How many playoff runs they had

696
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: before they won a championship Okay, the or the playoff

697
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: run where they won their first championship.

698
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: Okay.

699
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: Lebron seven seven playoff runs. His second playoff run he

700
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: made the finals. His seventh playoff run they won the title.

701
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 1: Kareem his second playoff run. Shout out Kareem, but again

702
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: four year college player as well. Jordan his seventh playoff run.

703
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Speaker 1: Magic is first. We just talked about it. Bill Russell

704
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: his first and but again that team had a guy

705
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: who had won League MVP previously in Bob Coosey, and

706
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: had won the championship two year. No, they hadn't won

707
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: a championship before Russell got there, but they they had

708
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,479
Speaker 1: Bob Coosey, who was league MVP that year.

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00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: They didn't win it.

710
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't win a championship before Russell got there,

711
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: but they had Bob Coosey. Where's the rest of my

712
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: list here it is Okay Wilt in his seventh playoff run.

713
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: Duncan in his second he had David Robbins, he was

714
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: his best player there. Kobe in his fourth, he had

715
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Speaker 1: Shack and he was awesome by his second and third

716
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: rings a Team was in his ninth, Shaq was in

717
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: his seventh, and Steph was in his third, and Bird

718
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: I think I left out, was in his second playoff run,

719
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: second or third. Wimby winning a title on his first

720
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: playoff run would be essentially unprecedented. Walton's the only one

721
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: who can be like, I was the best guy and

722
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: I did it, and they absolutely could, Like the Spurs

723
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: absolutely can win the championship this year. I didn't see

724
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: that coming, I thought. But Castle has been awesome, awesome.

725
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: Fox has been really good. They haven't needed as much

726
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: from Harper. They're well coached, They're deep, the whole, the

727
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 1: whole nine.

728
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, guys, even outside of basketball, it seems like

729
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: they probably can make stuff work. I like the character

730
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 2: on that team.

731
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Speaker 1: Should I say the no, I mean and.

732
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: Comedies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think playing in San Antonio helps that,

734
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: honestly fair enough, Like no, I'm not, I just I

735
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: just think it's like, hey, we're here to play ball,

736
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: like yeah, and San Antonio is a fun city to

737
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: spend a long weekend. Like, I'm not knocking san Antonio.

738
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: There's good food, no, but uh, but you just don't

739
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: have the distractions. Yeah, I mean, okay, see, is the

740
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: same thing going for it?

741
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

742
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Like, it's just know we're

743
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: here to play ball, all right. Let's talk a little

744
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: Chiefs here before we wrap up.

745
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: Uh. So, gm Brett Veach came out and said that

746
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: he wants to make the running game more explosive. So

747
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: maybe going for a free agent running back or using

748
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: the ninth pick to get Jeremiah Love. Uh. In twenty

749
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: twenty four, you said how it was a mistake for

750
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: Philly to go after Saquon considering all the other holes

751
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: they had. Do you feel similarly to the Chiefs this year?

752
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: Well, I was obviously wrong about Philly. You know that

753
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: worked out amazingly. Here is how I feel about the Chiefs.

754
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: I would like an edge rusher at number nine. I

755
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: know Ruben Bain has short arms. I really don't like

756
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: short armed left tackles. I don't mind it as much

757
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: for pass rushers. Quite It's still not ideal, But I

758
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: think that guy's a monster. Averrol Reese and David Bailey.

759
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't imagine he'll be there. So if Bain's there,

760
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: he's the guy I want. If he's not there, I

761
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't hate Jeremiah Love. And here is the thing about

762
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: running backs that go crazy high in the draft. They work.

763
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna give you, you know, in the list

764
00:54:54,520 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: demons of the recent NFL history, the running backs you

765
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: have gone incredibly high top ten, like yeah, or top

766
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: half of the first round. So Ashton gent will see

767
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 1: didn't have a great rookie year, but we'll see, here

768
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: are the guys since him, Bijon at eight, superstar, Jamiir

769
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: Gibbs at twelve, superstar. You then have to go all

770
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 1: you have not had am I right on this. Prior

771
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: to Bijon at eight and Jamiir Gibbs at twelve, you

772
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: didn't have a running back go in the top half

773
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: of the first round since Saquon. Saquon didn't work out

774
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: for the Giants. I mean he was awesome, but I

775
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: mean he obviously is a stud. They didn't have the infrastructure.

776
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette went number four, was really good. That Jags

777
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: team with no quarterback got to you know, an AFC championship, game,

778
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey at eight. Superstar Zeke went number four. He

779
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: was unbelievable, unbelievable for the Cowboys for five years. Todd

780
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: Gurley went number ten. He was Offensive Player of the

781
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: Year and was unbelievable. And that is that's the list

782
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: for the last decade. So you don't have really running

783
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: back busts in the top ten. The question is can

784
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: you get better value at a different position? And this

785
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: is a spot where for the chiefs man, you sure

786
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: wish the draft was before free agency, because they can't

787
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: go in the next season with out a major upgrade

788
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: at running back, particularly because you don't know how healthy

789
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: Patrick's going to be at the beginning of the year.

790
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: But you also don't want to go spend a bunch,

791
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, offer Kenneth Walker a bunch of money, and

792
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: then the draft falls a certain way, right, And so

793
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: that's where Veitch's job is hard.

794
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: Do they have the cap space, you think to even

795
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: pay for a running back.

796
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: Yes, they they absolutely can, because running back, even you know,

797
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: a great running back, makes like twelve million bucks. Yes

798
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: they can pay for a running back. But that's the

799
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: other reason people don't like to take running back super high.

800
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: Because a great running back in free agency costs you

801
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: call it fifteen million bucks. A great edge rusher in

802
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: free agency costs you thirty five million bucks. So you'd

803
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, the cost control of a running back, you're

804
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: not saving nearly as much as back an edge rusher, exactly.

805
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: And so the only here are the only things I

806
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: would not like the Chiefs to do at nine. Take

807
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. I do not think they need it.

808
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: Their uh, their left tackle was their first round pick

809
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: last year, Josh Simmons. Listen, he missed games, he had

810
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: a weird off field thing, but he's awesome. The left

811
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: guard Suamataia, who's the second round pick a few years ago,

812
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: played well for him. They have the best center in

813
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: football and Creed Humphrey. They have an awesome right guarden,

814
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: Tray Smith. Right tackle they're gonna need to address, but

815
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: you can. You know, that's fine. You have four of

816
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: your five spots taken care of. So I don't want

817
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: them to take an offensive lineman. And I only want

818
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: them to consider a wide receiver.

819
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

820
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: If I said no, I.

821
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: Know you said consider, but I'm just even surprised you

822
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: receiver at all.

823
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: Well, listen, yeah. I I mean, I I don't know

824
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: what Rashid Rice's status is gonna be. And I also

825
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: have you know, I think it's fair to say Xavier

826
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: Worthies year two was underwhelming, like, so they might still

827
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: have a need there. However, I would only be okay

828
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: with wide receiver at nine if no wide receivers have

829
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: been taken, or if the guy you would have taken,

830
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, if the guy if a wide receiver has

831
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: been taken but he wasn't your top receiver, Like, I

832
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: would only want you to draft a receiver at nine

833
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: if he's essentially first receiver off the board. Yeah, And

834
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: so for the Chiefs purposes, nothing would be better than

835
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: some team falling in love with Ty Simpson. And you know,

836
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: a quarterback going in the top eight. You know, Mendoz

837
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: is gonna go one. And so every offensive lineman or

838
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: quarterback that goes to through eight is good for the

839
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Speaker 1: Chiefs because it pushes back you know, Jewel Love, Jeremiah Love,

840
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: the running back from Notre Dame, the pass rushers or

841
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: the wide receivers or maybe Caleb Downs. I don't think

842
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: they would take a safety at night. So that's where

843
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm at on that all right, let's get some listener

844
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: questions quickly, because then I gotta go.

845
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: Marcus asked, will there be any WBC coverage, whatever WC

846
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: coverage on the pod?

847
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: W WBC, I was gonna say, can demands. Guess what

848
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: WBC stands for?

849
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: World Broadcasting Corner.

850
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Speaker 1: You got the first word, correct. All right, I'm gonna

851
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: give you the C World Blank Classic.

852
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: Oh, World Basketball Classic Baseball.

853
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 3: There you go, you nail it.

854
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: I think there might be some because I wonder if

855
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: we might do some shows from there because Fox has

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Speaker 1: it so so there might be some. WBC. By the way,

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Speaker 1: used to be like the pre eminent belt in boxing.

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Speaker 1: It might still be one of the belts. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so there could be some WBC coverage on the pod.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Next, Curtis says, Nick, I really enjoyed the Q and

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Speaker 2: A Style podcast recently. We we see more of those

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Speaker 2: in the future. The summer could be primetime for some

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Speaker 2: Q and A podcasts while sports slow down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we might. Even when I get back from my

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Speaker 1: March vacation and we get back to three episodes a week,

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Speaker 1: we might just make the Friday episode of mail Bag

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Speaker 1: Listener Question episode until sports really start ramping back up.

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Speaker 1: So yes, all right.

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Speaker 2: Next, producers asked Nuggets at Thunder tomorrow night. If SGA

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Speaker 2: is back, who do you think wins? Gonna be a good.

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Speaker 1: Game, assuming Jamal Murray's illness was just a night. I'll

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Speaker 1: take the Nuggets because I think SGA is gonna take

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Speaker 1: time to rant back up. I also wonder if that's

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Speaker 1: a spot where SGA's twenty point streak could end. Like

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Speaker 1: SGA scored at least twenty and one hundred some straight games,

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Speaker 1: He's approaching Wilt's record, and so I like that. The

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Speaker 1: yeah reminder, everybody like great subscribe review to the show.

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Speaker 1: We will be back here on Tuesday. It is great

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Speaker 1: to be back home, back in studio. Great job, demand'sday,

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