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Speaker 1: Dan and Tie welcome back to the solid verbal Boys

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Speaker 1: and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrandt. That fine gentleman

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Speaker 1: it is week one. How are you? I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to waste time on anything. I

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Speaker 2: I just want to talk start talking about Oregon, Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to talk about anything but this weekend's football Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

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Speaker 1: the rebowlerhood, Dan, Shall we just jump right into this thing.

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Speaker 1: the Chick fil A Kickoff Game, Dane, which brings me

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Speaker 2: The story for Oregon is bo Nicks behind a good

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Speaker 2: for the defense should be very good Georgia good, No, sir, No, sir, it.

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Speaker 1: Is not Georgia good. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there is interesting talent like Brandon Dorriles is

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Speaker 1: It's Stead and Bennett. It's is there a hangover situation?

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Speaker 2: What they look like against Clemson last year in Game one,

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Speaker 1: That this on this Oregon trail. There's at least a

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Speaker 2: Look, he has been the quarterback in big wins against

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Speaker 2: Well look, this game, to me has a high potential

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Speaker 2: I think that feels completely justifiable in terms of that

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Speaker 2: we have no idea what to expect out of Oregon here.

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Speaker 2: We have a pretty good sense for where George is

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Speaker 2: And as I looked at the data, I was surprised

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Speaker 2: I have trouble subscribing to that train of thinking. I

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Speaker 1: Learned from the Nebraska lock. Yeah, I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: Is there a part of you now Georgia down. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: it was Jermaine Burton I think was. They're leading wide

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Speaker 1: Look, I used to think that when Alabama had some

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Speaker 2: Hey, look, Week one's weird, Like Virginia tech er it's

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Speaker 1: They drilled USC the year they played USC. Yeah, granted

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Speaker 2: Defense does travel. That's all I'm saying. I'm still worried

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Speaker 1: Also In that three thirty window on ESPN, it is

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Speaker 1: for that instance where there's a lot of money, a

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Speaker 1: and so that's what I have here. Yeah. Yeah, So

431
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: even though I'm not crazy about all of those losses

432
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati, that line movement is usually a big red flag.

433
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It's usually a big tell that's basically screaming

434
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: out loud. You don't have to understand it, just take

435
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: the friggin points. And so that's what I'm gonna do here.

436
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: I'm going Cincinnati plus the points here. I'm not going

437
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: to think twice about it again, underthink express. I think

438
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: for me this year, at least this week in snow

439
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: Leopard and stop, drop and roll Saturday, that's going to

440
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: be the theme.

441
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think kJ Jefferson is the best player on

442
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: the field, and so my underthink express would be just

443
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: in outright is the best quarterback playing at home. That's

444
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 2: a really nice place to start because we don't know

445
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: last at the time of recording who's starting for Cincinnati.

446
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: Correct.

447
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: Correct that it would make a difference because at time

448
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: of kickoff that guy is not going to be expected

449
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: to be as good as kJ Jefferson.

450
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: Correct.

451
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 2: So to me, the question comes down to maybe cornerbacks,

452
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: right with Cincinnati replacing those two absolutely capital d dudes

453
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,239
Speaker 2: and Arkansas if there was a place in terms of

454
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: who they didn't trust on defense, it might have been

455
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: corner They gave up some big plays and so they

456
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: drop back into a lot of his own stuff to

457
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 2: keep stuff to keep plays in front of them, and

458
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: so Arkansas losing star power at linebacker. Excuse me, I

459
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: am taking Arkansas to win this game. The question is,

460
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: how do I foresee Cincinnati hanging around or threatening this

461
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: hog team? I really do think you just have to

462
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: put a good amount of trust in a playoff coach, right, Ty,

463
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 2: Like the coaching advantage goes to Cincinnati. They lose their

464
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, their star defensive coordinator last year. They get better,

465
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: not that losing Marcus Freeman is a good thing, but

466
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: they continue along. They develop. Luke Fickle has recruited really well.

467
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: So it is a question of on the sidelines. I

468
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: think I trust Luke fakel Right, it's about trust, Bid,

469
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 2: It's about trust, babe. So I am taking Cincinnati to

470
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: cover this game. But the underthink part of me still says,

471
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: the clear better quarterback at home with pretty decent to

472
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: good weapons, and he'll be protected and he is just

473
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: going to keep getting better. In kJ Jefferson and they

474
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 2: hit the portal well enough on defense in my eyes,

475
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 2: from Afar to say, I don't know if they improved dramatically,

476
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: but I don't think they're falling off. This is a

477
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: good defense last year. So I'm going Arkansas to win

478
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: this game. Twenty one seventeen.

479
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: This is the kind of game where Cincinnati covers because

480
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: Arkansas misses an extra point. It's one of those deals

481
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: I think somewhere in the twenty four seventeen twenty three seventeen,

482
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: if I want to get what is it at at

483
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: this moment six and a half, six and a half. Yeah,

484
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: I think Arkansas is the better team. I believe they

485
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: will win this game. But I think it's close. I

486
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: think it's close, and I think it will be one

487
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: of those deals where both teams are playing it relatively conservatively.

488
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: Maybe Luke Fickle from the standpoint of having new talent

489
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: that he has to incorporate into the game plan. Maybe

490
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: Arkansas from from a similar place. Yeah, maybe leaning a

491
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: little too heavily on kJ to try and get the win,

492
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati knows it. I did see one preview that

493
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: said Arkansas doesn't want to show too much because they've

494
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: got South Carolina on deck.

495
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: Sure, it's a more important game, a conference game is

496
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 2: a more important game than a but a Cincinnati team.

497
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Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I don't buy Look, I think

498
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: that's bad logic.

499
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: All the pressure, by the way, is on Arkansas. Cincinnati

500
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: went to the playoff, they won the American they got

501
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 2: a bunch of dudes drafted. This is a high profile

502
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: national program right now that's about to join a Power

503
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 2: five conference. It's not I'm not saying it's all gravy

504
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: from this point on, but right now, the pressure is

505
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: on Arkansas to build on expectations generated from last year

506
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 2: at home. Pressure's on Arkansas PM ESPN.

507
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: It is Utah, the Utes traveling across country to square

508
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: off against the Florida Gators. Utah is a two and

509
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: one half point road favorite. Okay, all right, I backed

510
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: myself into a corner here, man, and we need to

511
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: we need to talk about this for a hot minute

512
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: if we can. I kind of went in on both

513
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: of these teams when all in on both Utah and

514
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: Florida when I did my previews, and now I don't

515
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: know what to do because this is clearly the type

516
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: of game, as I said in the preview, that Utah

517
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: needs to win in order to get true playoff hype,

518
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: National playoff contention hype. You gotta beat Florida on the road.

519
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: You do that week one. People are talking, Yeah, people

520
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: are talking about the Utes. It's a tough place to play.

521
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: It's going to be loud, and I think they're good

522
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: enough to win here, but it is a tough spot.

523
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: That being said, it feels like a very physical game.

524
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: It feels like Florida has the beef in order to boof,

525
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: in order to match up with Utah. If that physical

526
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: brand of football is something that ends up coming to fruition.

527
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: I love Anthony Richardson more than I could ever put

528
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: into words. Oh my god, this is already starting. It's starting. Yeah,

529
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: it's starting pre week one, all right, it's starting pre

530
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: week one, and I just feel like, again, much like

531
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Arkansas game, I could see this one going

532
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: the root of just being hyper conservative. Billy Napier. He's

533
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: got the crowd advantage. It's loud, it's at home. He's

534
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: got enough manpower to keep this one physical, to keep

535
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: this one low scoring, to keep this one conservative, and

536
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: to let Anthony Richardson make a play. Yeah, I'm going

537
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: Florida here, So my question is always Florida. I have

538
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: to go Florida here, not my home dog of the week,

539
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: but at home at first game, new regime, everyone excited

540
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, a fully unfettered Anthony Richardson, How are they

541
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: not your home dog of the week? Then now'm my

542
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: home dog of the week. I've got a couple other ones.

543
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: Okay, uh yeah again, it's it's what is the most

544
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: pronounced trustworthy thing in this game? So Anthony Richardson has

545
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: never been a full time starting quarterback. He has never

546
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: won a quarterback job. He has played and looked sensational

547
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: at times. We have a first time Power five head

548
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: coach in Billy Napier, and so the most dramatic and

549
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: most pronounced elements in this game are to me, Anthony

550
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: Richardson's upside, and probably the Swamp crowd. Probably the difference

551
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: between and Rice Ecles is pretty electric, but it's different.

552
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: It's different than the Swamp. To travel on the road

553
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: from Utah Salt Lake to Gainesville is difficult and different.

554
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: And then you measure that up against probably one of

555
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: the ten best quarterbacks in the country and Cam Rising,

556
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: probably one of the ten best coaches in Kyle Whittingham,

557
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: and a team that's already winning, a team that already

558
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: has winning momentum if you were to believe in that

559
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: from year to year. When you look at both sides

560
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: of the ball, and Tavian Thomas running the ball and

561
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: Clark Phillips out wide on defense as one of the

562
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: best corners in the country, and what should again be

563
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: a couple of good lines, it's the DNA, essentially the

564
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: winning DNA of the current Utah roster matched up against

565
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: the upside of Florida, probably on offense more than defense

566
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: at this moment, and then the difficulty of playing in

567
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: the swamp. And so I like to say, you know,

568
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: a good defense at home as underdogs is like one

569
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: of the surest things in the college football betting universe

570
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: without any data to back it up. But there is

571
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: something about that winning DNA right now that I can't

572
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: shake looking at these two teams that it sometimes just

573
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: takes a couple of weeks to figure out what you

574
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: are as a new head coach, which with a new

575
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: full time starting like a lot of transfers in and out.

576
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: That I hate picking against the swamp in a big game.

577
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: But.

578
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: We just know more about Utah that it's more difficult

579
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: for me to say, I don't know much right now

580
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: about what Florida is going to be. But how do

581
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: you how do you gamble? How do you wager against

582
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: a big spot in the swamp. So I'm taking Utah

583
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: here to win this game. What's the current spread?

584
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: Two and a half? Dan too, Yeah, I have them

585
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: covering this game twenty four to twenty. Yeah, And you know,

586
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I think you're right if we look at what Utah

587
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 1: did last year. They were very good on the road early,

588
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: losing to both BYU and San Diego State in overtime. Granted,

589
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: different quarterback, different stance, yeah, the different circumstance, but that

590
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: winning DNA definitely on the road early for Utah. I'm

591
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: not with you, man, I'm not with you totally good.

592
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: I hate this pick, to be clear, I hate it.

593
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, by the way, I'm not also

594
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: saying that I think Utah loses. I just think it's

595
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: going to be a close game. And Florida with still

596
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: a lot of talent on the roster, which is the

597
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: point I want to underscore. Just because they change coaches

598
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: does not mean they're not talent. It just means they

599
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: weren't organized and they weren't motivated under the previous regime.

600
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: And I think Billion Napier is going to get them

601
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: there in a hurry. They will be up for this game.

602
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: They know what is at stake in this game, and

603
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: they have to get off to a hot start. That's

604
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: the other thing, right, Say what you want about yes,

605
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: but Florida's got Utah and Kentucky back to back weeks

606
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: to open its season. They got to get off to

607
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: a hot start. Here, otherwise this thing is going to

608
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: go down to drain in a hurry.

609
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: Part of what you're saying, though, and again I hate

610
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: my pick. I hate my pick, but I can only

611
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: be my authentic, silly self. Part of what you're saying, though,

612
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: when you're taking Florida is what belief in something you

613
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: don't fully know yet, and the idea that if Utah

614
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: is what I think we all perceive them to be

615
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: as a very good team, you have to be nearly

616
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: fully formed to beat them. You have to be kind

617
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: of close to what you will be at your best

618
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: to beat you Utah. Obviously, Oregon very much was not

619
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: in that place at the end of last year. As

620
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: Mario Christobal was perhaps looking across the country, very few

621
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: teams like Ohio State was its full self, maybe not

622
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: at receiver with the guys that took the Rose Bowl off,

623
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: but they were a fully weaponized version of Ohio State

624
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: and they barely beat this Utah sort of Utah team.

625
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: It's a different squad last year, right, there's no Devin Lloyd.

626
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: I understand year to year there's some differences, but again

627
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: it comes back to me, is the marrow of Utah

628
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: farther further along than the marrow of Florida.

629
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: I say, yes, alrighty, we disagree once more, then we

630
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: disagree once more. My hunch is that we will not

631
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: disagree on Notre Dame at Ohio State seven thirty ABC.

632
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: Ohio State also favored by seventeen's big number. I saw

633
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: our friend Pete Sampson tweeted out that Jared Patterson Notre

634
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: Dame's perhaps best offensive linementionable for this game. Ooh, not great,

635
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: not great. I think he will practice. I hope he

636
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: will play. We are recording this on a Wednesday, so

637
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: just keep your attention tuned into any developments on that front.

638
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: Could be a big deal if he is out. But

639
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: this line has progressively gotten higher, progressively got on. I

640
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: believe I said three months ago it would end up

641
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: somewhere in this vicinity, yeah, and that it still wouldn't

642
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: be high enough. No matter how much you believe in

643
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, how much you believe in Marcus Freeman and

644
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: the youth movement, and what Tyler Buckner gives them on

645
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: the ground as a true duel threat quarterback, they are

646
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: not winning this game, Dan, They are not winning this game.

647
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State is too many ways to win. All right,

648
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: this is not one of Tie's reverse jinks things that

649
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: I used to do pre twenty twenty one. It's not that,

650
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: I assure you, it is not that I am telling

651
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: you do not bet on Notre dame here. If you

652
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: don't want to bet this game, if you don't believe

653
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: Ohio State is going to win, then don't just don't

654
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: bet the game. But for the life of you, do

655
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: not actually put money behind this game. Because Ohio State

656
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: is going to win. They're going to win. You know

657
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: where I stand. I've got the Buckeyes winning the national championship.

658
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: I don't think this game will be particularly close. I've

659
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: got a high number, though that's such a big number.

660
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: I've got Ohio State by twenty one to twenty four points.

661
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: I think they are that much better. If you want

662
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: to bet this game, here's Ty's pro tip. Okay, if

663
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: you want to bet this game, watch it. Get one

664
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: of those apps. They're a multitude of them that could

665
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: be a sponsor but are not currently. Wait until something happens,

666
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: call wait, continue, wait until something happens, Wait until Ohio

667
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: State scores right away with Jackson Smith and Jigby right

668
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: down the seam, wait until maybe Notre Dame pulls off

669
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: a long run early, wait until the first team scores,

670
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: and then bet the other way. Yeah, change the points

671
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: spread by like six points. Usually that's what happens in game.

672
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: Aim it bet the other way, that's where you get

673
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: the most value. But right now I cannot. I'm a

674
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fan through and through. You know this. I

675
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: like this team, I'm into this team. I can't. I

676
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: cannot get behind any kind of pick in which Notre

677
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: Dame wins. And you know where I stand. I don't

678
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: believe in betting on a team that I don't think

679
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: can win. So I'm going to Hio State.

680
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay. I think that's that's reasonable. There's nothing

681
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: dramatically different to me about what the Ohio State offense

682
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: will look like. And you can say, yes, of course,

683
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson and Chris o'lave being gone is uh is tricky,

684
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: but Ohio State's pretty great at receiver. So to me,

685
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: the question is it. I have a hard time and

686
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm with you when you say Tyler Buckner is a

687
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: true dual threat. I haven't seen him really be a

688
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: threat throwing or running the ball with any consistency.

689
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: There. We saw him run the ball, but that's pretty

690
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: much all we saw. He's got really good wheels, kid

691
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: can run. But threatening what Last year he didn't threaten

692
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback job. So okay, I'm on wait and

693
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: see on that term fair, Tyler Barner, totally fair to me.

694
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: The fascinating part of this is going to be what

695
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame looks like upfront and the degree to which

696
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: they can make CJ. Stroud uncomfortable. That's your only real

697
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: hope because I don't have a lot of faith in

698
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's offense this week. I think they're gonna be

699
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: fine this year. They'll find guys, you know, I think

700
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: they're gonna be good, possibly not great, but good. I

701
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: think they're gonna have a good offense this year. And

702
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they get the ball to Who's Who's

703
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: the fake name receiver? Lorenzo Styles. Lorenzo Styles, Yeah, yeah,

704
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: I was a little bummed to notice that his styles

705
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: does not end in a Z.

706
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: No it should. That's disappointing. That would have been a

707
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: great boutique. Lorenzo Styles.

708
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: The edge rusher dujoure for Notre Dame to make CJ.

709
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 2: Stroud uncomfortable. Isaiah Foski, Yes, potential round pick Isaiah Foski, Yes,

710
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 2: So he is the dude that we saw it. And look,

711
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: it's just a component of Notre Dame being competitive in

712
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: this game. But we saw Oregon's defensive line last year

713
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: have some success in making CJ. Stroud uncomfortable. He's still

714
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: threw for like seven thousand yards against Oregon, to be clear,

715
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: but we saw Aiden Hutchinson against the Ohio State offensive line,

716
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: which struggled at times. I think they're going to be

717
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: better this year. The new coach that that to me

718
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: is a crucial key is the gravity that Isaiah Foski

719
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: demands from Ohio State up front, because I think Notre

720
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: Dame's defense is gonna be really good, maybe not this

721
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: week because Ohio State is going to make everybody look

722
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: kind of subpar on defense. So I have Notre Dame

723
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: covering this game. Oh, come on, Dan not because I look,

724
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: if there is a team that will blow out, if

725
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: a teammate is gonna blo out team, but it's Ohio

726
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: State over Notre Dame. I think that much is clear, correct.

727
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in week one, garbage in week one,

728
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: sc tissue in week one, malaise in week one. Oh

729
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: maybe we should started this guy at left guard. Oh

730
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: maybe we should have started this guy at inside linebacker.

731
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: Oh maybe we should have started this guy.

732
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: Ohio status had their too deep set since March. I

733
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: don't care. There's no malayse. They know who they are,

734
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: They've known who they were.

735
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: Since the end of last season, but they haven't played

736
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: an active game against a mysterious other team since January. Tie,

737
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: Come on, I just either a good team and that

738
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: is too many points sight unseen right now, I know

739
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: it's in the shoe. It's not They're not flying to

740
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: Tacoma to play this game. It's not far from South Bend.

741
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: I have Notre Dame covering this game with the final

742
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: score thirty seven to twenty four, not especially competitive or

743
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: back and forth. Maybe it's Tyler Buckner has a really

744
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: rough time, but backdoor covers his way to a thirteen

745
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: point loss, something like that. But I have Notre Dame

746
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: being good enough to cover this number in a mister

747
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: and always mysterious Week one matchup.

748
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: You discussed me, Dan, you disgusted me.

749
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: Sorry, I still love you, but you discussed me. Why

750
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: I'm disgusting you by saying Notre Dame your team, yes,

751
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: can hang with one of the nation's best.

752
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: It is the hope that kills you. You know this, Okay,

753
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: don't do this tire enough. We got to move quickly.

754
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 1: You've got a bunch of other games to talk about.

755
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, y Sunday. They play games on Sunday

756
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: now in college football, at least on this weekend. We've

757
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: got another seven thirty game on ABC. It's Florida State,

758
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: It's LSU. It's the All State Louisiana kickoff played in Louisiana.

759
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: How about that? And the Caesars Superdome, Dan Block of

760
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: the Week. This is an insane pick for a lot

761
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: of the week. I love it. I am on LSU here. Dan.

762
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: You told me weeks ago when I asked you explicitly

763
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: who's winning this game? Is it going to be LSU?

764
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: Is it going to be Florida State? You preview both

765
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: of them. Hmm, he said. LSU's beating Florida State. Yeah.

766
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: I have seen some action coming in Florida State, particularly

767
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: after that big win, the forty point win over Duquane.

768
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: The Dukes.

769
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is Is this the first team we're

770
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 2: discussing that has tire traction, Yes, that has a little

771
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: bit of heat on their tires because they've been on

772
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: the road, but on the season road thus far, that

773
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: Florida State has has that idea of who's playing left

774
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: guard or who shouldn't be playing left guard going into

775
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: this matchup. And you don't even know. I don't even know.

776
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: We don't even know at the time of recording who's

777
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: starting a quarterback for LUs. Brian Kelly's keeping those top

778
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: secret documents locked in his desk drawer. Baby, Yeah, we

779
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: don't know who's playing quarterback.

780
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: He won't tell us. He says it's a tactical advantage.

781
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: M hmm, sure, maybe maybe it is. Maybe it is.

782
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: We'll find out, Dan. But I think LC's gonna better

783
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: than people think. The schedule is nuts nuts. It's not

784
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: gonna help them. I don't know what their final win

785
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: loss record will be, but I think Brian Kelly is

786
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: typically pretty good in these situations. I do. I believe

787
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: in him. I don't like him obviously, I don't like him,

788
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: but I love him. But I think he's good in

789
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: these situations. I think he will have this team up.

790
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: I think whoever plays quarterback will have a ton of

791
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: talent around him, again, more than you might think for

792
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: a team turning over its coach that felt disorganized last season. Also,

793
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: this is basically a home game for LSU mm HM,

794
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: basically a home game for LSU. I don't read anything

795
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: into what we saw last week for Florida State beating Ducane. Obviously,

796
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: who cares LSU minus three my lock of the week.

797
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: Okay, So, first of all, something I forgot is it's

798
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: another year of Brian Kelly and Mike Norvell opening up

799
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: against each other.

800
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: Right, that's correct? Yes, correct.

801
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: Notre Dame nearly lost to a quarterback without a leg

802
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: in Mackenzie Milton last year. Under Brian Kelly's It worries

803
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: me that you're locking up LSU, that you're you're so

804
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: confident LSU and you don't even know who's starting at quarterback,

805
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: and that Brian Kelly openers against what we think are

806
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: worst teams don't always go super well. Now, different team,

807
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, LSU, whatever, I think ls is in a

808
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: really good place. You know, I'm high on LSU if

809
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: they get B plus quarterback play which I think is

810
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: a reasonable expectation given what has been spoken of with

811
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: regard to Brian or excuse me, Garrett Nusmeyer. I don't

812
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: even know who Brian Nusmeyer is. That's not a real person,

813
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: Garrett nus Meyer and uh and Jayden Daniels's upside that

814
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: they could get B plus quarterback play because I think

815
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: the offensive line has come together nicely. I think there's

816
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: a good amount was at bj Ojalari on the edge

817
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: for LSU. They hit the portal to sort of refill

818
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 2: that roster on defense. On a top level, I think

819
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: the pick is solid and sound to think LSU is

820
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: going to win this game because I I'm still a

821
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: little bit worried about and I've been using this word

822
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: a lot, this term a lot in the off season

823
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: star power for Florida State.

824
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: They've improved.

825
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: They hit the portal for it, you know, adding a

826
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: couple of Oregon guys at running back and receiver. But

827
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: in this spot, do I trust Jordan Travis, your boy,

828
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: you love it, Jordan Travis. Just a god awful September

829
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: last year for Florida State. That's what concerns me. But

830
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: I do like the tire traction here for the Knowles

831
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: to be clear, I'm taking LSU. It was difficult for

832
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: me to go against my tire traction. But I'm just

833
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: there's just more that I like, situationally and roster wise

834
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: about LSU.

835
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: Man. The Florida State defense took a nice step forward

836
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: last year Damn Games in New Orleans. I think Brian

837
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: Kelly's a good coach. I like the assistance he hired.

838
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: I think the Florida State offense is going to have

839
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: some difficulty with this, this Tiger defense, which is sort

840
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: of they're getting used to each other new system. I

841
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: get all of that.

842
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm going against Higre traction at least for this one. Yeah,

843
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: and going LSU as well. We agree a Southern Brian Kelly.

844
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: He's from now, He's from now, He's from there. I

845
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: am twenty eight to twenty LSU is my final.

846
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that number. Uh Monday Labor Day,

847
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: I saw some sharp action, and by that I mean

848
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: the pro better is coming in hot and heavy on

849
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech Plus twenty two against Clemson eight pm ESPN

850
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: Monday night on Labor Day. Another one of those CFA

851
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: kickoff games. This would definitely be the spicy chicken sandwich

852
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: with less spice on it, Okay, an express. Yeah, I

853
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would bet Georgia Tech here.

854
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I Clemson's defense might be the

855
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: best defense in the country. Granted, some issues they're working

856
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: through on offense, but I think they'll get there. I

857
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully they're healthier this season. Unless you you

858
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: are a Jeff Simms believer, of which I am. I

859
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: am not in the club. Why, I mean, I can

860
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: I can explain to you. I mean you could try

861
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: to explain to me. I'm not gonna believe it. I'm

862
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: gonna use my defense.

863
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: I've befending other picks with It's week one, Ty, it's

864
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 2: week one, it's Crimson has It's.

865
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: I'll stop you right there, it's Nevrative. Clemson is playing Georgia. Okay,

866
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: they're not playing Georgia. This is Georgia Tech. Now Georgia

867
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: Tech this year in Week one. Yeah, they beat him

868
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: by five points last year. I think so.

869
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: Yes, they lost a great running back to Alabama. Georgia

870
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: Tech did, and they have They're gonna have a lot

871
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: of issues this year. It's gonna be a very long

872
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: season or a very short season, depending on how you are.

873
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: It's gonna be another three to nine season. Here is

874
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: what scares me. Here is the point you should make. Okay,

875
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: as we talked about in the previews, Georgia Tech is

876
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: in this position with Jeff Collins where back is to

877
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: the wall. They are throwing everything against said wall, and

878
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: they're kind of like the crazy guy in the fight

879
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: where you just.

880
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: Don't you don't know what to expect from the Yellow

881
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: Jackets this here. You have to imagine they're going to

882
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 1: try everything and that makes them at least a little

883
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: bit try winning. Is that a thing that they should attempt? Well,

884
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: they want to try winning, But I think they're going

885
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: to throw it all against the wall and that concerns

886
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: me a little bit. But I'm going Clemson here again

887
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: underthink express for me in week one.

888
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, you'd have to be the way you paint

889
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech covering is essentially you have to become a

890
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: high pitch herald.

891
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: What tun coordinators a DJ struggle.

892
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: And it's very difficult to fully pick Georgia Tech Situationally, Yes, yes,

893
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: Clemson struggled with injuries on offense last year. They certainly

894
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 2: struggled on the line. They certainly struggled taking a step

895
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: back at receiver. You know, Will Shipley was a bright

896
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: spot when healthy, and they've got a couple other.

897
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: Guys that run back wh way. You know, there's no

898
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: Traves Etn on the roster, but I think they have

899
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: guys who are going to perform. I have Clemson covering

900
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: this game for the same reason that you do in that.

901
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Even if DJU is not the answer short term, medium term,

902
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: long term for Clampson, I think Clemson is still capable

903
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 1: with this defense Alley ooping its offense, capable of winning

904
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: this game forty to ten something like that, forty one thirteen.

905
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: In that what's the line at the moment twenty two

906
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: you said twenty twenty two, twenty two. Yeah, I think

907
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: Clemson just in terms of sheer talent. I mean, you

908
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: could argue that part of Dabo's appeal is underthinking too much.

909
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm going Clemson here comfortably because I just can't say

910
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm picking a team because it's Week one and they're

911
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: going to throw everything against the wall. You need to

912
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: give me two and a half names of the people

913
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: throwing the garbage at the wall. Thirty eight ten Clemson wins. Yeah.

914
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,759
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916
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,480
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917
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,439
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918
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919
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,200
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920
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921
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,320
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922
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,480
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923
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: Maybe asking for all of our friends. There are new

924
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:34,240
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925
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: We'll find out, we'll get look at the true Okay,

926
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: play run the board dot Com. All right, other action

927
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: on Saturday, Dan, we gotta move quickly. We got a

928
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: lot of games to discuss here. We don't have to

929
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: do anything. This is the one I mentioned earlier. It's

930
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: North Carolina minus one and a half points on the

931
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: road at app State. This line has flopped around like

932
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: a fish out of water man. Yeah, all over the place.

933
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: Vegas apparently not wooed by Drake five touchdown passes in

934
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: Week one against Florida A and m App State with

935
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: a lot back, a lot back from last year's team,

936
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: A lot of reason to be excited about the Mountaineers.

937
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: How excited are you about app State? Dan? I believe

938
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: you previewed this team as well.

939
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I the uh, the the story that I

940
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: have undertaken in my brain, the positions I have taken

941
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: on my brain. From Chase Bryce Duke to Chase Bryce

942
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: app State. It's been a whirlwind this app State. The

943
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: Bryce is right. Look, they lose a weird game to

944
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: Miami last year in a similar spot though that game

945
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: was in Miami and.

946
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: Did a cat fall off a balcony? Was that what

947
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: happened to the cat? Did fall? Yeah? Safely? Safe? Yeah?

948
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: This is a tire traction matchup with North Carolina. Again,

949
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: it was what Florida A and M the rattlers of

950
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: Florida A and M. Who North Carolina? They might be

951
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: down what their best corner in Tony Grimes Josh Downs

952
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: also quite their best receiver. So worrisome to me, Still

953
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: going North Carolina. Still going North Carolina because they have

954
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: they have the experience of week one, They have the data,

955
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: the coaches have the data on what is and might

956
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: not be working so far. Even if against Florida A

957
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: and M and app State is a whole different beast

958
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: and Boone is a very difficult play place to play.

959
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I'm going North Carolina here. I'm going. I'm

960
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: just going to buy in early on Drake May. I'm

961
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: just because I don't really have a choice, because I

962
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: I can trust this year's.

963
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: North Carolina more.

964
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: They gonna trust this year's app State because I think

965
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: both teams are going to be pretty good and I've

966
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 2: seen North Carolina.

967
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: That's it. I'm going to go on Aultates. I'm going

968
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: to APP State. I hate, I hate. I think their

969
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: defense is gonna be pretty good. Their experience, I think

970
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty good. It's at home. It's a

971
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: difficult place to play. I get this.

972
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm going against it, but I'm I'm bringing in my

973
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: tire traction defense once again here to go with the

974
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: tar Hills.

975
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm going to app State. Okay, I'm going app State

976
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: partially because they don't understand the point spread. I would

977
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: have thought that North Carolina would have been favored by more.

978
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: But the why, I think the talent level on this

979
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: team is still higher than app stole. I think from

980
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: a raw talent standpoint, North Carolina is still the better team.

981
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: I do think though, kind of contrary to your tire

982
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: traction argument APP State, despite the fact that they didn't

983
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: play in Week zero, they still may be in a

984
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: position that they've got their act together more because of

985
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: veteran leadership on offense. I understand that.

986
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: But if you're saying North Carolina has the better guys,

987
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: but APP State has veteran leadership, which would you want

988
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: in building a college football team?

989
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: Do you want the better? I'm going APP State? I'm

990
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: going APP State? All right, let's keep going. Also in

991
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: the great state of North Carolina and C State minus

992
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: twelve on the road at East Carolina. I'm intrigued by

993
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: ECU he they were much more physical last season and

994
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: much more effective on the ground than they had been

995
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: in the previous year. My sense, though, is that this

996
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: one is all n C State, all NC State. The

997
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: line's a little weird. Twelve points is a little weird

998
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: to me, but I am I was very close, let's

999
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: say to locking up NC State. I have a great

1000
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: deal of faith in this team. Speaking of veteran leadership,

1001
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: the defense should be very solid, you know. I like

1002
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: Devin Leary. East Carolina was a better story last season

1003
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: than many expected. But gotta go wolf Pack. Yeah, I

1004
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: would have expected this line to be a little bit

1005
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: bigger because I'm not intrigued by ECU and the way

1006
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: that you're intrigued by ECU. I don't know if you

1007
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: just randomly are friends with pirate people or are dating

1008
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: somebody secretly that's an ECU alum or something. I'm not

1009
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: intrigued by ECU in a spot like this. Now.

1010
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: I get it's on the road, I get it's week one.

1011
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: These are all the things that I've already mentioned as

1012
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: being keys in specific matchups. NC State should be fine.

1013
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: They were flat on the road against Mississippi State last year.

1014
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 2: They lose that game like twenty four to ten.

1015
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Early.

1016
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: I like to look at early season results just because

1017
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: it's again, it's how prepared does a coach have his

1018
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: staff and his roster to win winnable games early on

1019
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 2: in September.

1020
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: That's why you're taking Utah on the road at Florida.

1021
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: I get it. I totally get it. It is right.

1022
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: I believe in Kyle Whittingham more than billion. Apier Right

1023
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: lost two games in the first three on the road

1024
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: last season. Okay, just Sam Rising just not play in

1025
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: those games, did not start those games. Quarterback. It's my

1026
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: thing that quarterback is an important position. We defer, we

1027
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: differ on a number of things. I get that.

1028
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: I am going NC State to win this game comfortably.

1029
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm going the combination of quarterback and defense growth teams

1030
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: on the on the same same line of experience.

1031
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 1: Let's just go with MC State here. Next, South Dakota

1032
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: State at Iowa. I cannot find an active line, though

1033
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: I did see one website listed at fifteen and a half. Okay,

1034
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: South Dakota State is number three currently umber three in

1035
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: the FCS poll. I am inclined to go South Dakota State. Here,

1036
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: Dan me through your very specific thinking.

1037
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: Week one weirdness, I'm saying fifteen and a half as

1038
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: well over under a forty four and a half.

1039
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: It's the kind of game that I could see Iowall

1040
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: winning twenty three to ten. I think South Dakota State

1041
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: is a good team. I know they are a good team.

1042
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: I think they'll be loaded for bear here. Iowa obviously

1043
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: has the offense, but the same questions persist a about

1044
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: their offense, and I say offense I always got the defense.

1045
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: The questions persist about their offense. So in a game

1046
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 1: like this, we've seen matchups in the Midwest FCS games,

1047
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: the FCS team comes to play, I am going to

1048
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 1: take South Dakota State plus the points whenever that line

1049
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: officially comes out there in a more public capacity, not

1050
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: betting money on it, but South Dakota State getting points

1051
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: more than two scores, why not?

1052
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: South Dakota is up there in terms of my favorite

1053
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: to Coda's totally up there. I think I'm a North

1054
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 2: Dakota guy at the moment, but I respect to pick

1055
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: for the Jacks, you know I do. I don't like

1056
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: going with ether picks all the time when there is

1057
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: this kind of discrepancy between levels, and one team that

1058
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 2: is a level up also does something incredibly well. In

1059
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: this case, defense, I have Iole winning this game thirty

1060
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: seven to ten.

1061
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: Three point thirty. We've got Houston on the road minus

1062
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: four at UTSA. A lot of folks high on UTSA

1063
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: in this game. Dan believe we're both all in on

1064
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: Houston this year. We both really like Houston a lot, right, Yes?

1065
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: Is that to say then that we're both going Houston

1066
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: here minus the four. I have you.

1067
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: I'm going with the better team here. I think UTSA

1068
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: was a good story and we'll continue to be good.

1069
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 2: I like Jeff Trailer. Frank Harris did great things last year.

1070
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: There's a lot of momentum with the Roadrunners. Houston has

1071
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: the quarterback and defense to me in this MATCHP, I'm

1072
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: with you. I think this is Houston's year. I'm big

1073
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 2: on Houston as well.

1074
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, next four PM, BYU minus twelve a us F.

1075
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: We both kind of like USF as well this season. Yeah,

1076
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: I am not crazy about BYU's defense. Not convinced you

1077
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: should be crazy about the Bulls defense. Oh, brother, I know,

1078
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: I know, But travel cross country week one. This might

1079
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: be one of those weirdness type things for me with BYU.

1080
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: BYU plays a tough schedule. They have Baylor and Oregon

1081
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: in the next two weeks. Correct they do, so this

1082
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: will be an important game for them to get their

1083
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: act together. I like their offense, but I just I

1084
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: look at this line. Another weird twelve pointer. I say,

1085
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: BYU wins this one by ten, But give me South

1086
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: Florida at home to cover who won the BYU Baylor

1087
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: game last year? Baylor?

1088
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: So Gary Bohannon has beaten BYU relatively recently.

1089
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: That's true. It is a weird look ahead spot going

1090
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: cross country, isn't it? For BYU? It just feels weird

1091
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: to me.

1092
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: I think, Look, I hate taking USF here, but they

1093
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: did aggressively overhaul their roster.

1094
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: They did try to. I don't know, if you know

1095
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: you can say, oh, they got this dude from Clemson,

1096
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: they got this dude from Minnesota or North Carolina or whatever.

1097
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a reason they left right, Maybe there's a

1098
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: reason these guys really weren't cutting it week to week

1099
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: in a major program. But I still think there is

1100
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: at least an infusion of improved talent for USSEF, and

1101
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: so week one weirdness traveling cross country. I'm going bulls.

1102
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: I hate to do it.

1103
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: YU wins this game by seven to ten points, man,

1104
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: but I think I think there's gonna be some energy

1105
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: in Tampa for South Florida.

1106
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump around here, Dan, because we've also got

1107
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: games earlier. That's true. In the week that we want

1108
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: to discuss here, we'll come back to some of these

1109
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: here any more express fashion before we sign off. But

1110
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: I have got my home dog of the week. Where's

1111
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: my sound here the Yokos home dog of the week.

1112
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: My home doog of the week is Old Dominion. Okay,

1113
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: Monarchs explain. Old Dominion is getting eight eight and a

1114
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: half points at home against Virginia Tech. This is an

1115
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: interesting matchup. It is a battle of two former Penn

1116
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: State assistants, Ricky Ronnie being the coach of Old Dominion

1117
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: Brent Prye being the new coach for Virginia Tech. I

1118
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: believe ODU brings back eleven starters on offense and a

1119
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: good chunk of its defense. Meanwhile, Virginia Tech feels like

1120
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: the type of team that could be plucky and maybe

1121
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: within seven to ten points of pretty much every team

1122
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: on their schedule. Right, this is going to be a

1123
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: callback to the old Notre Dame team. Remember I forget

1124
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: what year it was, where they just were on a

1125
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: knife edge all year long and they weren't good enough

1126
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: to blow anyone out or get blown out by anyone.

1127
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: They were just sort of there. That feels like that

1128
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: feels like Virginia Tech to me this season. I have

1129
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: made my concerns about this roster pretty public as we

1130
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: went through the previews. I e. They dont They just

1131
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: don't got the dudes. They're moving guys around, they're doing

1132
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: the position switch thing because quote unquote they're better suited

1133
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: for a different position. The translation is, we just we

1134
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: need another linebacker. We could just we need you to

1135
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: maybe beep up and play the middle a little bit

1136
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: more than you did last year. Yeah, okay, I I'm

1137
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: not saying, oh, do you wins the game, But if

1138
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: you're telling me this is like a twenty four to

1139
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: twenty one game that Virginia Tech wins, I totally would

1140
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: buy that. I totally would buy that. I trust in

1141
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: this case the veteran leadership at home with I believe

1142
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: a good coach and Ricky Ronnie, good offensive coach, someone

1143
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: who knows his opponent in Brent Priy pretty well. I

1144
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: believe in that a little bit more. With the Week

1145
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: one weirdness factor at play, then I do Virginia Tech,

1146
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: which is basically rebooting and starting from scratch to give

1147
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: me the points.

1148
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: I really would have liked to see good offensive coach

1149
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: Ricky Ronnie come up with an offense that was better

1150
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: than one hundred and seventh last year and start out

1151
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: oh to six against FBS teams that is a concern

1152
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: to me. I think the one facet of this matchup

1153
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: that you are overlooking is per message boor genius is

1154
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: the size and shape of Brent Price Hog. Do you

1155
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: think Virginia Tech is overlooking Odu ever again? After losing

1156
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: that game, I say no. I say statement situation for

1157
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 2: a new on the road, A new head coach for

1158
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech.

1159
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: The Grant Wells era at quarterback for the Hokies. I

1160
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: like how you change your voice for that. You do

1161
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: that again. Well, it's a good name, It's a really

1162
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: good name. Grant Wells could be a lawyer, Grant Wells

1163
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: could be a politician, could be a national park, could

1164
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: be a park. Yeah, I think there is.

1165
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not a big believer in Virginia Tech this year,

1166
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: but I'm just not a believer in general in the

1167
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: monarchs of Odu. They stuck up on them last time.

1168
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: I grant you that. Not this year.

1169
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: No, I think they I think Tech wins this game comfortably.

1170
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: I'm not giving you specific reasons why that.

1171
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: I think that.

1172
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: I think they're gon'll run all over them. I think

1173
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: they're going to stop them enough. I just think there

1174
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: is still a difference between these two these two programs

1175
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 2: in terms of talent on the roster and O do

1176
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: you kind of snuck into a bowl last year by

1177
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: beating up on a bunch of guppies in the back

1178
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: half of the season. Virginia Tech might not be good.

1179
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: They are no guppy, no guppy. Let's go over to

1180
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 2: eight PM on Friday Night.

1181
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: Illinois and Indiana. Indiana favored by three. That's a weird

1182
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: one weirdness in I don't get it either traction. Illinois

1183
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: is the better team. I am locking up the ALI

1184
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: and I on the road in Bloomington Week one plus

1185
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: the three.

1186
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: Does Illinois have somebody in week their third game? So

1187
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: week two for them? Do they have somebody challenging or

1188
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: interesting to like?

1189
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: A let down? Look ahead situation, a letdown after looking

1190
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: strong against Wyoming? They have Virginia Virginia at home, not

1191
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: a huge deal, a good I assume we'll be a

1192
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: good offense. So this game has a couple things that

1193
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: I think you like to bet with slash against. First,

1194
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: You've got the warm tires, the tire traction thing. Love

1195
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: that beat up on Wyoming in Week one. Two. Indiana

1196
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: stinks stunk, Stu and we'll stink again, will stink again

1197
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: to be clear. And three, they don't got any kind

1198
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: of like major look ahead situation here. Illinois plus the

1199
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: three lock it up. That's my second lock of the

1200
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: wak Okay. I hear you. I'm with you.

1201
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: I understand your logic, I understand your rationale and reason.

1202
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: Could Indiana be in that same even year, Tom Allen,

1203
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: even year Hoosier that and I'm not a big believer

1204
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: in Connor Bays lock, but that last year's roster just

1205
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: wasn't it. Last year's season, last year's locker room.

1206
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: Just wasn't it. Tom Allen's a good coach. He is

1207
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: a good coach to me. Tom Allen's a good coach.

1208
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: Love everyone, but simply on the merits of what we

1209
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: now know about Illinois and the tire traction and especially

1210
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: the skid marks, I guess I can take back that term,

1211
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna choose not to the tire marks. I

1212
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: suppose that Chase Brown left on the Wyoming defense. Chase

1213
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: Brown might be the best player in this game. If not,

1214
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: maybe his brother Sydney, an all big ten caliber corner,

1215
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: might be. I don't know. Isaiah Williams out why I

1216
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm going tiret traction here with Illinois.

1217
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: But the idea of even year Tom Allen and Hoosiers

1218
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 2: that there's just an elixir in the zeros twos, fours, sixes,

1219
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 2: and eight's right, that concerns me.

1220
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: The Tom Allen Fibonacci sequence of sorts.

1221
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm all explained to you what a Fibonacci sequence

1222
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: is when we finished this show.

1223
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: But yes, you don't. You have to add up the numbers, right,

1224
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, so I probably know more about it

1225
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: than you. But that's okay. But you just said two, four,

1226
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,439
Speaker 1: six and eight was Fibonacci, and it's not. I'm saying

1227
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: it's Tom Allen's Fibonacci. Dan, I see, yeah, try to

1228
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: keep Bloomington math Bloomington math. Okay, so you're going Illinois

1229
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: as well.

1230
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: I'm going Illinois as well, just because there's more for

1231
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: me to to latch onto as a snow leopard.

1232
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: And last, but not least, let's travel back in time

1233
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: to Thursday, Dan Boo, some interesting ones here, huh, seven

1234
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: pm ESPN The backyard Brawl on a Thursday on a Thursday,

1235
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: You know how it is. It's a rivalry game. The

1236
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: records are already out the window. Let's throw out the previews.

1237
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: Who gives a damn about what we said. Yeah, but

1238
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: let's let by gones be bygones. It's a big old

1239
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: rivalry game. I think Pitt wins, but I think it's close.

1240
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: You know why I think it's close. I'll tell you

1241
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: why it's close. Pitt has beaten West Virginia by double

1242
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: digits two times in thirty one fricking years, only twice.

1243
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: Got to go back to nineteen ninety one to find

1244
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: the second instance of this of Pitt beating West Virginia

1245
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: by more than single digits, and before that, after that,

1246
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: I guess the only other time in the last thirty

1247
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: one years was in the U two thousand year two.

1248
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: Every other time you really went high there. I like that.

1249
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: I full commitment ty. Every other time that Pit has

1250
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: beaten West Virginia since or after the year two thousand,

1251
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: it's been by single digits. It is a close game.

1252
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: It's a backyard brawl. It's a hated rivalry. It is

1253
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: an awesome freaking game to kick things off with on

1254
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: Thursday night of week one. I am thrilled that we

1255
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: are doing college football Thursday, are live on Spotify. Show

1256
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: five ps dot com flash Spotify. I am thrilled that

1257
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: we are doing that show right before this game, because

1258
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: I will be jacked up. I will be ready for

1259
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 1: this game, very excited for this football game. I believe

1260
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: in Pitt. I think did the better team not in

1261
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: a million years wul I picked them to cover a

1262
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: seven and a half point spread. I don't care if

1263
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: they're at home. This is definitely a who do you trust? Game,

1264
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: isn't it?

1265
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: With the number of new pieces, the number of pieces gone,

1266
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: Both teams starting new quarterbacks, both teams with new offensive coordinators,

1267
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 2: both teams counting on hopefully better play or better top

1268
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 2: level play from receivers that are there because Jordan Nisen left,

1269
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: and you have the USC transfers and JT. Daniels who

1270
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: might not be that.

1271
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels my guy.

1272
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Keidan Slova is coming over Graham Harrold coaching,

1273
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: so you have the offensive coordinator USC connection coaching West

1274
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 2: Virginia's offense.

1275
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: If memory serves, I.

1276
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: Am worried about feeling good things on the road in

1277
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 2: Week one with the West Virginia offensive line with a

1278
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: quarterback who gets hurt a lot in JT.

1279
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,879
Speaker 1: Daniels. I think there's a lot too like about West Virginia.

1280
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

1281
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna take the points. It's very difficult for

1282
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 2: me to see a way in which West Virginia wins

1283
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: this game in Pittsburgh. And it is a trust thing.

1284
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: You know what I worry about too. I worry about

1285
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 2: and this is an ether thing. This is just a

1286
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: guess thing. I worry that pitt had the best offense

1287
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: by a country mile that they've had in a long time,

1288
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: and in the Patnardozi era, and they had a couple

1289
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: of years we had like three crazy good running backs.

1290
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 2: I get all that, But to develop the NFL quarterback

1291
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 2: that they did in Kenny Pickett, to develop a Blittnikoff

1292
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 2: winner in Jordan Addison, to have their coordinator move on

1293
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 2: to Nebraska and get his salary doubled. It worries me

1294
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 2: that Pat Nardoozy was complaining about the manner in which

1295
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: they had this historic offense last year and that this

1296
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: year he's just like, I'm gonna do what I want now.

1297
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: We're going to get back to the way I was

1298
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: doing things when we were the seventy third ranked offense.

1299
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: That's what worries me about Pitt in the medium term,

1300
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 2: I suppose, But I think you're right. I think there

1301
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: is something about taking the home team in a rivalry

1302
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 2: game in which you don't fully know who to trust.

1303
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: But I think I still trust patent Ardoozy more than

1304
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: I trust Neil Brown in getting a team ready to win.

1305
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 2: By the way, Virginia isn't Western Michigan, so that's nice,

1306
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: very much a good thing.

1307
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, I hope pat Nardoozy with his

1308
01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: comments about Mark Whipple and Lincoln Riley and and potentially

1309
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: spilling the beans on JT. Daniels being the starting quarterback

1310
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: at West Virginia. Yeah, I hope we see evil Patternardoozy

1311
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: this year. Dude.

1312
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: That's the spiciness that you were talking about with Chick

1313
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 2: fil A. That is, he is pulling up his end

1314
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: of things. He is, he is holding up his side

1315
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: of things as you know, spicy Saturday.

1316
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. I hope that we see fully evil,

1317
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: fully spicy jalapeno Patnardoozy. I want a bushy goatee.

1318
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: Though, remember community where they like the evil timeline, the

1319
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: dark timeline, they'd all have goatee's I want pattern ardoozy

1320
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: in a goatee.

1321
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: The other Thursday game that is of particular interest to me.

1322
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: APM on Fox Penn State minus three and a half

1323
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: at Purdue Bird. I am on Penn State. I am.

1324
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: I love that you're doing this. Continue I am. I

1325
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: am modulating my voice here to prevent against a voice

1326
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: crack scenario because I've been yelling a lot this podcast.

1327
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: I don't want it to crack when talking about my

1328
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: esteem Dolma mater. But I was on Penn Stand a

1329
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 1: month ago. A month ago, it was minus two when

1330
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: I saw to hit my microphone. I'm sorry, you're okay.

1331
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: I was on them a month ago when I saw

1332
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: this line drop. I didn't get it then, I don't

1333
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: get it now. Purdue lost David Bell, the football player,

1334
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: not the ex Mariner third baseman. David Bell. Also George

1335
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: third base Okay, hey, he signed a huge deal with

1336
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: the Phillies after a run with the Mariners, and he

1337
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: never never did anything hit like he had like one

1338
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: year where he hit twenty home runs or something, sorry

1339
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: about that. And then George Carloftis, who was a much

1340
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 1: bigger difference maker on the defensive side of the ball.

1341
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: He's in the league now too. That feels like a lot.

1342
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: It feels like a lot. And I know we got

1343
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: people out there right In the Aidan O'Connell article, I

1344
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: think Nicole, our friend, good friend, Nicole auer back, is

1345
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: Aidan O'Connell the second best quarterback of the Big Ten?

1346
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he's an interesting question. Maybe you know I read

1347
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: Nicole's article. I think it was a Coles article. I

1348
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: hope I'm not giving your credit for something that she

1349
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: does or does it want credit for it.

1350
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: But it's a safe bet that if there was something

1351
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: well written in the Athletic that it's Yeah.

1352
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: But I mean he's a good story. Yeah, he's a

1353
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: good story. I understand why at home at night, first

1354
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: game of the year, you'd want to believe that he's

1355
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: going to keep them close against Penn State, especially given

1356
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: all that Penn State Loston defense. I understand why that

1357
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: Purdue team led by him is dangerous. But Penn State

1358
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: last season finished with a whimper. Shaan Clifford got hurt

1359
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: in the Iowa game. They were never the same. Now

1360
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: they've got enough back on offense I think to be

1361
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: really dangerous. I think This game has been circled on

1362
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: their bulletin board material all off season long. I believe

1363
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: they're going to come out guns of blazing. They've got

1364
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: two running backs, three running backs that they're very excited about.

1365
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: The line I think should be better than it was

1366
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: a year ago. Go the defense. You just trust in

1367
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: the Penn State defense Manny Diaz runs a similar enough

1368
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: system to what Brent pry he and his huge hog

1369
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: ran a year ago that I feel good about this team. Stupid,

1370
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: so I fully believe in Penn State. I will not

1371
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: lock up a third game, but I feel very confident

1372
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: about Penn State minus the three and a half here

1373
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: against Curdwe all right, Purdue lock of the week? Oh no,

1374
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: really yeah? On a Thursday, go and spoil a maker Thursday. Wow.

1375
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: All right?

1376
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: Here's my counterpoint. How'd Penn State look on the road

1377
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 2: last year? How they look on the road to start

1378
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: the year in Wisconsin? Much better defense. I'm not here

1379
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: to talk about the past. I'm here to talk about

1380
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 2: the Future's here's what Penn State did on the road

1381
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 2: last year. This is a one year sample size, relatively meaningless,

1382
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 2: but this is where I'm going with this offense. Looked

1383
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 2: largely listless for the first two thirds of that game

1384
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 2: against Wisconsin yes Week one offense, tough place to play.

1385
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: Defense better.

1386
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: Last year's Wisconsin defense is better than what produced defense

1387
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 2: will be on Thursday will be this year.

1388
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 1: I hear you.

1389
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 2: Quarterback gets hurt against Iowa. That's not a reflection on penns.

1390
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: That just happens, right.

1391
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: They score ten points in their bowl game away from home?

1392
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Against Arkansas? We're going to have the

1393
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: research department check though. Who's a winnable game in a

1394
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: snowstorm against Michigan State? Is that what I'm looking at

1395
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: here the research department. I can't get a hold of

1396
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: them at the moment.

1397
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 2: I think they rush for about fourteen inches of carry

1398
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: against Ohio State on the road last year twenty nine

1399
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 2: carries for thirty three yards. I don't have a math degree.

1400
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 2: I think there was a lot to be left, a

1401
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 2: lot left on the bone there for the Penn State

1402
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 2: rushing attack on the road. Sean Clifford had a really

1403
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 2: nice game, though. He found Johan Dotson who not wearing

1404
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 2: blue and white come Thursday.

1405
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, that's actually correct.

1406
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 2: So we're taking a quarterback you've never believed in an

1407
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: offensive line that you're trying to talk yourself into, but

1408
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: don't fully believe in an offensive coordinator that you believe

1409
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: in but you're not positive. Why a loss of a

1410
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, a loss of talent on defense, going to

1411
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: a place that has a giant drum.

1412
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: It's a big bass drum, it's huge, and.

1413
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: A good quarterback playing at home on a Thursday against

1414
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: a team who was kind of a nightmare and not

1415
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: a good way on the road last year away from

1416
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: state college in week one, Week one weirdness. If you're

1417
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: going to talk about midwestern ether with why the Jacks

1418
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: of South Dakota State are going to hang around with Iowa?

1419
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 2: Why don't we talk about a team who beats talented

1420
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 2: teams and has a better quarterback. So the better quarterback

1421
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: is playing at home in this game. Yes, Am O'Connell

1422
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: is a better quarterback than Shan Clifford. Are you not

1423
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 2: ready to concede that?

1424
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: God? Fine? I like Penn State.

1425
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: I think Penn State is gonna have an interesting, fun year.

1426
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 2: It is tough, man, This is tough. Gimme perdue, man.

1427
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: I just think that we're talking about a cocktail of

1428
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 2: reasons to roll for and against in this game. I

1429
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 2: know I'm talking myself into the boiler Makers here. They

1430
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 2: return a lot on defense. I'm not saying we're sleeping

1431
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: on Purdue. I understand the talent that you've pointed out

1432
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: with Purdue.

1433
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1434
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 2: I just I kept coming back to the Boilers here, So,

1435
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, give me perdue. Well, if there was

1436
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: something in my gut ty, there was something in the

1437
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: gut flora that I have forming inside of me, the

1438
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 2: content gut flora that I couldn't I couldn't ignore. So

1439
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 2: I'm going with Hi.

1440
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,440
Speaker 1: We are nothing if not the Green day Walking contradiction

1441
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: here on this podcast, where we apply logic in reason

1442
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: and weird theories wherever it feels right. Yeah, as opposed

1443
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: to ubiquitous Lee universally, let's say that word instead across

1444
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: the good board. Any other games here that you want

1445
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 1: to discuss, Dan.

1446
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 2: I love Boise State at Oregon State. Okay, I didn't

1447
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 2: realize Boise State was awesome on the road last year.

1448
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: They beat really good teams on the road. They're going

1449
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: to be healthy. I like their offense more. I think

1450
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: their offen is going to be better this year. I

1451
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,879
Speaker 2: really like their defense, and I'm worried about Oregon State's defense.

1452
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 2: And it's late night. I think Saturday is PAC twelve ish,

1453
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 2: thirdy dark.

1454
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 1: It's a ten to thirty game.

1455
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going Boise here. I still think Oregon State's

1456
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: going to be a pretty dangerous team this year. But

1457
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: for whatever reason Andy Avlos, in terms of who do

1458
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: you trust Boise on the road Under Andy Avlos, I

1459
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: do trust them on the road. So I'm going Boise

1460
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 2: State here. I have Syracuse covering at home, possibly winning

1461
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 2: out right against Louisville. I don't love the idea that

1462
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 2: Louisville wasn't good against the run last year, and I

1463
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 2: think they'll be a little bit better. But Syracus just

1464
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 2: going to run the hell out of the ball at

1465
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: home and whenever they renamed the Carrier Dome. So I

1466
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: like Ques at home. I like Utah State to cover

1467
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: forty one points tire traction they lose by thirty eight

1468
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: against Alabama tire traction. Otherwise, here's here's my other curveball.

1469
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: I'm going Colorado plus the point against TSTCU because if

1470
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is b one g love with two quarterbacks

1471
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 2: he's rolling with sunny Dyke said we might play three.

1472
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, and I'm not down with that.

1473
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: So I'm taking Colorado because screw it. That's why I

1474
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: don't really it's altitude. I jotted down here, by the way,

1475
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 2: that's a ten pm Friday matchup. Correct a TCU one.

1476
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: I jotted quote. I like TCU, but am spooked by

1477
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: the prospect of three quarterbacks.

1478
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: So I'm with you on that right. But I'm actually

1479
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: in disagreement on the other games that you mentioned. You

1480
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: liked to Oregon State the Beeves. I'm going to Beeves,

1481
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 1: and I hear you. I take your point. It's a

1482
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: valid one when you talk about Boise State and what

1483
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: they did in the road last year. My problem with

1484
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: Boise is I don't know where the big players are

1485
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: coming from, and I think they're going to need a

1486
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: couple of them in order to beat a really good

1487
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: offense in Oregon State. Oh good news, Oregon State is

1488
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: very accommodating of big plays their defense. Oregon State minus

1489
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 1: two and a half is my pick there. I'm gonna

1490
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: go Louisville minus to four and a half. I don't

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Speaker 1: feel right about that pick. That one could go either

1492
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: way to me, but I saw Tyon Evans, the Tennessee

1493
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: transfer is going to get the nod for Louisville at

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01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: running back. I think this could be a fun game

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01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: with a lot of points. I trust Louisville a little

1496
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: bit more in the front seven, which is why I'm

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01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: going to go with them instead. And I'm gonna go

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01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: Bama minus forty one points, which is a crazy almost

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01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: as nine point spread, and generally when you've got Alabama

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01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: favored by more than fifty points, which does happen, then

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01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: you take the other team. But if it's somewhere in

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01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: that medy thirty eight to forty one territory, I think

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01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: they run it up on Utah State. I could see

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01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: I could see it being something like fifty two to ten,

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01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: where it's right around that number, but they eke out

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01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: a cover, maybe a little bit of a front door cover.

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01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: Sorry dogs out there listening to.

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Speaker 2: The podcast, Sorry, yeah, I guess you know what Utah

1509
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 2: State tire traction and I'm saying it not you. Maybe

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01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: I have a raging bonner.

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01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 1: No, wow, are we not? Okay?

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01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: I should have workshopped that and thought about the implications

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01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 2: of that phrase more than I did, but leave it.

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Speaker 1: Leave it in the edit. Tie so look longer than usual.

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Speaker 1: Show here. It is week one. Yeah, it's week one.

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01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 1: I am dressed up. We are fired up. We are

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01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 1: making all sorts of picks. It's been a while since

1518
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: we had a chance to do this. Go on out

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Speaker 1: to play run the Board dot com. Play run the

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Speaker 1: Board dot com. Pick these games along with us. Compete

1521
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Speaker 1: against Dan and I, compete against the entire verballerhood. And

1522
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: again we have weekly prizes. We have a big old

1523
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: yearly prize in that the top five get elected to

1524
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: the board of Trustees. We will check with legal on

1525
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: whether or not there are any kind of disclosure explications. Yeah, yeah,

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01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: anything that needs to be filed with the SEC. But

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01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: short of that, it's a really cool prize. We send

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01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: you a cool trophy. And as Dan said at the top,

1529
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: you will have to explain to your loved ones and

1530
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 1: or co workers why you'll be unavailable for some random

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Speaker 1: evening in the month of March.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, though, ty, you shouldn't play or run

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Speaker 2: the board game at play rundboard dot com to sign up.

1534
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Speaker 2: You shouldn't play. If you're scared, you shouldn't play if

1535
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 2: you don't think you have what it takes to compete, no, don't.

1536
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: You shouldn't. It's not for you. It's not for you.

1537
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: But if you think you have what it takes to

1538
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: win the most prestigious, important college football pick them pool

1539
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: in the country, then I think you should investigate further.

1540
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: But do not play if you don't think you have

1541
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: what it takes. If you're a little bit scared, yeah,

1542
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: if you're a little bit squeamish about competing in the

1543
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 1: most important, prestigious pick them pool in the country, that's all.

1544
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: That's it. I think that's right, Dan, Okay, great show.

1545
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't think we have anything else to discuss here.

1546
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 1: Thank you to all verballers for listening. In four o eight.

1547
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: Verbal one is the reverblind. As you're watching these games

1548
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Speaker 1: here listening to these games, please do call in leave

1549
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Speaker 1: us a voice message. We will play them back on

1550
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: the Sunday recap show again Sunday only. For our patreon

1551
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Speaker 1: folk at verbalers dot com you can get early access

1552
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1553
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Speaker 1: watch live and comment live. I want to send a

1554
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: big shout out to the folks who are watching and

1555
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: listening and playing along with this one. Otis Kale, Randy Catherine.

1556
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Speaker 1: We had Sean, Chris, Dan, Derek, A No, Chris another,

1557
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Speaker 1: A number of folks find for ballers, all of them

1558
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 1: who have been watching, commenting along and giving us their

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Speaker 1: two cents as we go through. So we are appreciative

1560
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Speaker 1: for Ballers dot com is where you can go to

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01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: find out more information on joining the verballerhood in a

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01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: more official capacity. Yeah. Now, a collection of people that

1563
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: you can only describe as all being their own version

1564
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: of anrect That's all. That's all I have. That's correct, Daniel.

1565
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: There is one other thing.

1566
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 2: Oh well, is this a pat League Lightning Round when

1567
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: the pat League isn't playing against each other?

1568
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: I suppose so, drop and you already did that big

1569
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: stanky What I guess we're gonna go squeamish again, squeamish listen.

1570
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 1: It's the FCS Lightning Round this year. Oh I see.

1571
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: It was one of those points of feedback that the

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01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: esteem Board of Trustees from run the board dot com. Dan,

1573
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: come on, try to keep up on this show.

1574
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: But are you but you're paying playing patriotic music for

1575
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 2: the Patriot Lightning Round traditionally, but you're keeping the music,

1576
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: but we're expanding the scope.

1577
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: Friday night at six pm, Lee High at Villanova, Dan,

1578
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: who you going with? I side with you.

1579
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 2: I'm anti Lehigh to the bone, to the marrow. Villanova goes,

1580
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: Go Nova, Go Cats.

1581
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: Saturday twelve thirty, Sacred Heart very Holy at Lafayette the laps, Dan,

1582
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 1: it is snow Leopard Saturday. Will it be Leopard Saturday

1583
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 1: against Sacred Heart?

1584
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: Sacred Heart three? They were pretty good last year. Actually,

1585
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: the run the hell out of the ball. I'm still

1586
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: going Lafayette at home because you don't just walk into Easton,

1587
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 2: PA and come away with a victory. So give me

1588
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: Lafaytte come.

1589
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,839
Speaker 1: Going Sacred Heart. I'm going Sacred Heart. Elsewhere around FCS,

1590
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: We've got Northwestern State at Montana. Montana is actually pretty

1591
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: good this year, Dan, Yeah, they're pretty decent road years. Yeah.

1592
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: Our guy Damon's a proud grizzly, So I'm going Montana.

1593
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: Let's go on hand. Yeah, we will do that for Damon.

1594
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 1: Saturday three thirty. Drake the other Drake on Saturday, not

1595
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 1: May Drake the school Drake on the road at North

1596
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: Dakota State seems like a bit of a tall order

1597
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: to go into Fargo to square off against the Bison.

1598
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: Dan, who you got North Dakota State, Drake realized, shout

1599
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: out a great race. I think the boat racing, though,

1600
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: will happen from the Bison.

1601
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: Here and last, but certainly not least, we've got Georgetown

1602
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: on the road away from Multi sport Field, squaring off

1603
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: against Marist. Notre Dames still have a Marist at linebacker,

1604
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: a Marist at linebacker, Maris Lee lou Fowl. Yes, wasn't he? Yes?

1605
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, Georgetown away from the Hornet's nest that is

1606
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: Multi sport Field is not a Georgetown that I am

1607
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 2: particularly scared of. Give me Marist here knowing nothing about is?

1608
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: Where is Maris? Marris is in New York? I know,

1609
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: is it by Poughkeepsie? Now, come on, I don't know that.

1610
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look that up. I'm going with Marit here.

1611
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm going Maris. I know they've got I think they've

1612
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: got a rather a rather big presence in the crew world,

1613
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: in the world they're the Red Foxes. That's pretty cool.

1614
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, what what do you think Maris knowing

1615
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 2: nothing about the Red Foxes what do you think their

1616
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: football record was last year?

1617
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: Just from feel two and eight, five and five in

1618
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: the Pioneer League. Okay, so I like that those Red Foxes. Yeah,

1619
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: it looks like they beat Presbo. They got destroyed by

1620
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 1: Saint Thomas, beat Dayton, lost Morehead State. All right, I'm

1621
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 1: going Red Foxes here, going hoyas, come on, yeah, come on, Okay,

1622
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: all right, that does it. Thank you to everybody for

1623
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: bearing with us. A longer than usual episode, but it's

1624
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: week one. Happy to be here. We made it through

1625
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: the long cold months of the off season. Snow Leopard Saturday,

1626
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: stop drop and Roll Saturday. Whichever of the two you celebrate.

1627
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: Thank you for celebrating it with us. Join in on

1628
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: the action. We'd love to have you on stage for

1629
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Speaker 1: college football Thursdays. We do it every Thursday live on

1630
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1631
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1632
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Speaker 1: of this episode, make sure you follow along on social media.

1633
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1634
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1641
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Speaker 1: we do a recap, and we do a new show

1642
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: in the middle. To make sure you stay up to

1643
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Speaker 1: college football mutant. Stay up to speed with everything going on.

1647
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Speaker 1: With our friend Stevie's speed run Dan all the best.

1648
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Speaker 1: Steven Hartsoul. You know him. We talked about him last year.

1649
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1657
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1658
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Speaker 1: friend Steven Hartzel. It's what I use when I'm out

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Speaker 1: and about the college football Blitz. It's a utility for

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Speaker 1: college football fans. Make sure you cash in on the

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Speaker 1: as you're out and about Dan the best.

1663
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Speaker 2: It's like a live college football audio war room. It's

1664
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Speaker 2: all right, let's go here, what's going on. Let's listen in.

1665
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Memphis. What's going on. Let's

1666
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 2: go to see how he goes on. I don't know

1667
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: how he does it.

1668
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: It's so cool. I love it, Dan, we made it.

1669
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: We're here. I did it. Love it. You know what

1670
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Speaker 1: I am? Tie No, that guy over there, my good

1671
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Speaker 1: friend Dan Rubinstein for myself, Tie Hill Dee Brand. Enjoy

1672
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Speaker 1: Week one and stay solid peace,