Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with
Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Today's guest is the brilliant Camilla Luddington,
Speaker 1: who stars in the ABC hit medical drama Gray's Anatomy,
Speaker 1: arguably one of the most iconic and legendary shows to
Speaker 1: hit television. Wealth Ever, Camilla is going into her twelfth
Speaker 1: season of the series, which is an incredible testament to
Speaker 1: the power of the show and the impressive character that
Speaker 1: she has created. She of course, plays the beloved role
Speaker 1: of doctor Joe Wilson. It is a role in which
Speaker 1: she shows strength and vulnerability as she navigates her way
Speaker 1: through these complicated storylines centered around love but also career.
Speaker 1: And I think many of us have been able to
Speaker 1: relate to her storylines at some point in our lives,
Speaker 1: which is why I know audiences absolutely love this character.
Speaker 1: She is so relatable. Camilla has many impressive credits, but
Speaker 1: one super interesting one being that she was the voice
Speaker 1: of the iconic Laura Croft in the video game tomb
Speaker 1: Raider and Get This. When the game was released in
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, critics praised Luddington for giving the classic icon
Speaker 1: a much needed reboot, and gamers agreed. They bought over
Speaker 1: a million copies in the first forty eight hours of release.
Speaker 1: Come on, how cool is that? Camilla is a gal
Speaker 1: who knew exactly what she wanted at a very young age,
Speaker 1: and she never veered from her dreams. So in honor
Speaker 1: of that, this is an episode for all of my
Speaker 1: fellow dreamers out there. So let's see if today we
Speaker 1: can get Camilla to say something that she's never said before. Camilla,
Speaker 1: it is so nice to meet you. I have been
Speaker 1: wanting to interview for quite a while. I have heard
Speaker 1: of Yes, I've heard amazing things about you. We have
Speaker 1: a few mutual friends, so we're going to have some
Speaker 1: fun today. Are you ready to rock?
Speaker 2: I am, I'm ready. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Well, I have probably the most important and hardest question
Speaker 1: of your life you're about to answer to kick this off.
Speaker 1: Are you ready?
Speaker 2: Okay? Go?
Speaker 1: So. I know you're a Taylor Swift fan, and I
Speaker 1: know you're a Bravo fan. So if you were stuck
Speaker 1: on a remote island and could only listen to one
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift song for the rest of your life, while
Speaker 1: hanging out with one cast from any Bravo show for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life, which shaw and which gust
Speaker 1: would it be?
Speaker 2: Do you say a desert island?
Speaker 1: Desert island? So you're stuck forever?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm obsessed, like obsessed right now obviously with
Speaker 2: the new album. But the song Mastermind on the new
Speaker 2: album is one of my absolute favorites. So I feel
Speaker 2: like today with this question, it's that song who would
Speaker 2: I Bring? I feel like I do you watch New Jersey?
Speaker 1: I'm from New Jersey?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So I love Teresa. I know it's like
Speaker 2: you know, people are like torn on Teresa and Melessa.
Speaker 2: I love Teresa. I feel like if I bought her
Speaker 2: to the island with me, like she could figure it
Speaker 2: out with me, Like we could like get coconnuts together.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like she'd like rally and this. She's
Speaker 2: been through a lot, so I feel like she wouldn't
Speaker 2: be phased by an island. Some say Teresa and that.
Speaker 1: Song, you know what? Those are solid choices. I love it. Okay, good,
Speaker 1: good for you. You're gonna survive and last a long time.
Speaker 2: I think I would survive. Yeah, and I'd look good
Speaker 2: doing it with her.
Speaker 1: Yes you would, Yes you would, Yes you would. Amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: another thing that I guess Italianto Survival is you've been
Speaker 1: kicking ass on Grey's Anatomy for now, what are you
Speaker 1: going into your twelfth year?
Speaker 2: My twelfth year. It's funny because I even forget sometimes
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's ten years. I'm like, wait, no, it's twelve.
Speaker 2: Like even I've forgotten, like how many years has been.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is incredible in this day and age.
Speaker 1: So what keeps you coming back for more to the show.
Speaker 2: It sounds cheesy, but I really love my cast and
Speaker 2: every single year we bring on new people and they're
Speaker 2: always amazing, Like we have a new intern class that
Speaker 2: like I just feel like that like influx of new
Speaker 2: people keep it really fresh for us. And then I
Speaker 2: have to shout out to our writers because they do
Speaker 2: a great job of every season. I mean it's been
Speaker 2: like twelve for me of being like, hey, this is
Speaker 2: probably going to be your storyline this season, and it's
Speaker 2: always like, oh my god, that's I love that. I
Speaker 2: can't wait to play that. So the writers keep it
Speaker 2: super fresh for us.
Speaker 1: Well, it's to play a character for over a decade
Speaker 1: is so special. It's so rare, and I imagine it's
Speaker 1: really gratifying for you when you think about your whole
Speaker 1: trajectory on that journey, Right, So, how has that journey
Speaker 1: been for you playing Doctor Joe over all the years.
Speaker 2: It's funny because so I joined the show in season nine,
Speaker 2: and I remember thinking, Okay, shows, it's amazing that they're
Speaker 2: in season nine. But like the shows that you know,
Speaker 2: it probably is going to go on for a couple
Speaker 2: more years, Like it's not going to go on for longer,
Speaker 2: because like shows just don't go on for that long.
Speaker 2: So I feel like the trajectory of it has just
Speaker 2: been shocking. To be honest, I would never have imagined that, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, twelve seasons later, I'm still on the show.
Speaker 2: But what's been really nice, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'll ever get this opportunity again, probably not, is being
Speaker 2: able to sit with a character for that long. They
Speaker 2: become part of your life. They become part of you
Speaker 2: because you've experienced so much with them, you almost grow
Speaker 2: up with them. So it's like when she had a
Speaker 2: one year old on the show, I had a one
Speaker 2: year old when she wasn't getting sleepless nights on the show.
Speaker 2: I was literally getting sleepless night. So it feels like
Speaker 2: we've like in some ways obviously completely different, but in
Speaker 2: other ways like parallel to each other, like grown up together.
Speaker 2: And that is just a really unique experience, And.
Speaker 1: What a cool outlet that must be when you're going
Speaker 1: through real world stuff to be like, oh, so is
Speaker 1: my character I can go work this out on set? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? I feel like when she you know, when
Speaker 2: I started the show, you know, Joe's like in a
Speaker 2: new space and she's super intimidated by like, you know,
Speaker 2: the doctors around her and wants to do a really
Speaker 2: good job. That was me. I was entering this show
Speaker 2: that was already iconic. I wanted to do a good job.
Speaker 2: I wanted to impress people, so like that energy she had,
Speaker 2: that's how I started too. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: she's been she's got settled in her job and her
Speaker 2: confidence built. I've gotten settled in the job, my confident,
Speaker 2: you know. So it's just it's a really wild ride
Speaker 2: to be on with a character for that long.
Speaker 1: Did you feel that pressure going into the show because
Speaker 1: of that very reason? You knew how big it was.
Speaker 2: I was a huge fan. I actually wish I had
Speaker 2: not been a huge fan of the show. I wish
Speaker 2: i'd seen it in a way because I think my
Speaker 2: first few days on the show, I would have been
Speaker 2: like a lot more relaxed. But I walked on and
Speaker 2: I had watched it from the very day that it
Speaker 2: premiered until then, and I was like, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: It's Gray's Anatomy. This is the post it note, this
Speaker 2: is the fridge they had Thanksgiving dinner. You know, it's
Speaker 2: like it's really it was intimidating being a fan and
Speaker 2: then being in it, and also just knowing that fandom.
Speaker 2: They're so passionate and you hope that like you're stepping
Speaker 2: into to like big shoes, you know, the show, like
Speaker 2: you want to be an intern class that they like
Speaker 2: and root for, and it takes time. So all those
Speaker 2: things were on my mind when I started, which was
Speaker 2: all really intimidating.
Speaker 1: So how in the world do you say, girl, get
Speaker 1: a grip? But we got work to do, like put
Speaker 1: all that aside and let's get working.
Speaker 2: Because it's a Shonda Rhime's show, fair enough, CRA's Anatomy,
Speaker 2: and you know, like on Grey's Anatomy, anyone can like
Speaker 2: explode in an elevator at any time. So with that
Speaker 2: hanging over your head. You're like, I gotta get it together.
Speaker 2: I don't have a choice but to like rally and
Speaker 2: do the best job that I can do.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not getting right off the show today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, totally.
Speaker 1: What are some of your fondest memories when you think
Speaker 1: about those early days on set of the show.
Speaker 2: It was really exciting. I miss having like a class
Speaker 2: that I came in with, Like I do miss that
Speaker 2: because there was camaraderie there and I'm the only one
Speaker 2: left of my intern class, so I miss that. But
Speaker 2: I also feel like it was good in a way
Speaker 2: to like not know in the beginning how big the
Speaker 2: show was. I knew it, but like I feel like
Speaker 2: it hadn't hit that like streaming situation yet, so it
Speaker 2: kind of kept me in more of a bubble in
Speaker 2: the early days, which I think was good. But some
Speaker 2: of them, like I just have memories of filming some
Speaker 2: of the most iconic stuff, like that dinner party where
Speaker 2: Penny comes in and Meredith says, like, this is the
Speaker 2: person who killed my husband, Like, I just have such
Speaker 2: you know, those scenes that have become super iconic. We
Speaker 2: shot for days and days and days, and between the takes,
Speaker 2: like we had so much fun. So those are great memories,
Speaker 2: Like you know, Jackson and April's wedding, Like I have
Speaker 2: great memories of that, and like you know, all of
Speaker 2: us just having fun between takes. Those are my memories.
Speaker 1: Well, it's always yeah, it's obviously you guys had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun and the camaraderie on set seems to
Speaker 1: be so special and so amazing. But it's a job
Speaker 1: too write, and with any job there's challenge. So what
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest challenges playing a character for
Speaker 1: that long that we might be surprised about.
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of shows now are sometimes
Speaker 2: six episodes, eight episodes, ten episodes. We're one of the
Speaker 2: only shows that are still twenty episodes, twenty two episodes,
Speaker 2: and I think that people don't realize that that means
Speaker 2: nine months of the year shooting. And so one of
Speaker 2: the challenges that comes with that is if your character,
Speaker 2: because I've had this and a lot of us have
Speaker 2: had this, if your character is going through really hard season,
Speaker 2: that's nine months of your year that you're sitting in
Speaker 2: that depression with them, or sitting in that trauma with them,
Speaker 2: and that with this particular show, because of the length
Speaker 2: of time we film, that can be challenging, and.
Speaker 1: It's hard sometimes to separate that from the real world.
Speaker 2: It is hard because you're going back to it so often,
Speaker 2: so it becomes harder to shake off. You have to
Speaker 2: do a really good job of compartmentalizing. But it's sometimes
Speaker 2: it's really difficult because you have to go you know,
Speaker 2: you have to go really deep so often for so
Speaker 2: many months, like it can the lions can get blurred.
Speaker 2: You can come home and you can you know, you're
Speaker 2: bringing that energy home. You have to be careful about
Speaker 2: that well.
Speaker 1: And especially because the show has so many shakeups, right,
Speaker 1: you never know what's going to happen, who's going to
Speaker 1: be around, and that's one of the most I think
Speaker 1: appealing things about the show. It's the element of surprise.
Speaker 1: And one of those shakeups recently was of course Ellen
Speaker 1: Pompeo leaving the show. So what was that like when
Speaker 1: you heard the news and having kind of the fearless
Speaker 1: leader and og character decided part.
Speaker 2: Ways, It's interesting because I feel like Ellen had talked
Speaker 2: about sort of being ready to move on and try
Speaker 2: something new, so it wasn't completely shocking. And then for
Speaker 2: us personally and Ellen has said this before, it doesn't
Speaker 2: really feel like she's left. She's doing the voiceover for
Speaker 2: every episode. Still, when she did leave, we knew she
Speaker 2: was still going to be in our finale episode, and
Speaker 2: she herself was said like, I'm always going to have
Speaker 2: a presence on the show. There's never going to be
Speaker 2: that Meredith Gray is not going to show up. So
Speaker 2: I feel like it doesn't feel like she's left. I
Speaker 2: think she's still there obviously to support the show. She's
Speaker 2: a producer on the show. So I don't feel like
Speaker 2: Meredith Gray has gone.
Speaker 1: Season twenty it's coming up. Everyone is like, come on,
Speaker 1: let's go. We want we want it, we need it.
Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to? What do you hope
Speaker 1: for with the new season for your character?
Speaker 2: I want her to kick ass as an obe. She's
Speaker 2: back to, you know, being a resident, so I really
Speaker 2: want to see that skill set just like her just
Speaker 2: be amazing at her job and so passionate. I'd love
Speaker 2: to see her continue to do more surgery because she's
Speaker 2: also a general surgery attending, and then she has her
Speaker 2: baby and Luna has been diagnosed with hearing loss, so
Speaker 2: I want to see her also. I would love to
Speaker 2: see her really diving to learning sign language, Like, I
Speaker 2: just think that's a really cool, awesome storyline representation. And
Speaker 2: then I want her love life to be a little
Speaker 2: bit more successful, which hopefully, you know, she had a
Speaker 2: big kiss at the end of last season. Hopefully that
Speaker 2: means Linc and her are going to be good for
Speaker 2: a while. But oh my god, it's our show, so
Speaker 2: you know, who knows.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot we can look forward to in
Speaker 1: the new season. And I love that you brought up
Speaker 1: focusing on the hearing loss storyline as well. That always
Speaker 1: touches me. I was actually so I when I was young,
Speaker 1: I was completely deaf and only had half of my
Speaker 1: hearing in one ear, and I had to go through
Speaker 1: corrective surgeries and years and years and years of that
Speaker 1: and then I was lucky that I got restored, but
Speaker 1: I had six years of speech therapy after that because
Speaker 1: I didn't learn how to speak during my formative years.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's something so important to focus on,
Speaker 1: and I like that your show, you know, is leaning
Speaker 1: in that direction, because many don't.
Speaker 2: I have the same thing. I was actually diagnosed with
Speaker 2: kind of significant hearing loss last year or the year
Speaker 2: before it doesn't sound like a lot, but it's about
Speaker 2: ten percent of my hearing. So it just means that,
Speaker 2: like in normal situations, I can hear people, but like
Speaker 2: in a crowded restaurant, it's really hard for me when
Speaker 2: there's a lot of like ambiance, And you know, I
Speaker 2: was even like one day I might need, you know,
Speaker 2: a hearing aid in my forties, and I hope, I wrote,
Speaker 2: if I'm still in the show, I hope I rock that.
Speaker 2: So I love any sort of because I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, not that I have completely lost my hearing,
Speaker 2: but I have a little bit of hearing loss, and
Speaker 2: I love that that is something that's being featured and
Speaker 2: it hasn't you know, I feel like it hasn't been
Speaker 2: done yet with anyone's child on the show, so I
Speaker 2: think it's really nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, representation matters, So that's a cool storyline to explore.
Speaker 1: What strikes me about you is you're someone who is
Speaker 1: so excited about the work you do still and it's
Speaker 1: so refreshing. I think in any fields, when I meet
Speaker 1: someone who loves what they do and who is grateful
Speaker 1: and eager for the future of what their career looks like.
Speaker 1: In that particular role. I think it's so inspiring and
Speaker 1: and you've talked about how there's a lot more to
Speaker 1: explore with this character, which to me, it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you've been on for over a decade, so
Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? Talk to me about that.
Speaker 1: Do you have a ton of different ideas?
Speaker 2: I do, And it's hard because I feel I have
Speaker 2: so many ideas, And then you know, I do like
Speaker 2: to like pitch to the writers and be like because
Speaker 2: actually the writers are super open. At the beginning of
Speaker 2: every season, they sit us down and they say, like,
Speaker 2: what do you think? Like what are things that you
Speaker 2: want want to see? And it's just really it's really
Speaker 2: nice to have writers ask you that question because it's
Speaker 2: not always the case. So I'm very careful about not
Speaker 2: saying it because sometimes like our ideas do sort of
Speaker 2: manifest into a storyline. But I I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to say it because then it won't be used.
Speaker 2: But I do feel like she has long way to go.
Speaker 2: She has, you know, she's still at the beginning of
Speaker 2: this new career. What does that look like, a new relationship?
Speaker 2: What does that look like? And with a baby still,
Speaker 2: you know, she's got a two year old, so what
Speaker 2: is that like? There's so much much story still to tell,
Speaker 2: And even when you think, like god, we've done it all,
Speaker 2: they just do a great job of being like, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: this is what we're going to do, and you're like
Speaker 2: what you know? Like, we still get so shocked and
Speaker 2: excited by our scripts. So I feel like she's at
Speaker 2: the beginning. She's kind of starting fresh, even later in life,
Speaker 2: with a lot of the things going on in her world.
Speaker 2: So yes, I think there's a lot more story to tell,
Speaker 2: but I don't want to say specifics because I'm hoping
Speaker 2: that maybe one of them would get used.
Speaker 1: That's exciting. That gives a lot of hopes to people
Speaker 1: who want this to continue on for years and years
Speaker 1: to come. So I love that. That's awesome, Camilla. You
Speaker 1: have been through many years on this show, and with
Speaker 1: that comes a lot of personal growth, right and learning
Speaker 1: about yourself and going through real life experiences that, as
Speaker 1: you said, sometimes mirrored your characters. So when you think
Speaker 1: about your career as a whole on Gray's Anatomy, how
Speaker 1: are you different as a human being from when you
Speaker 1: first join the show.
Speaker 2: I would say my confidence has grown a lot professionally,
Speaker 2: because in a way, being on a show like that
Speaker 2: is like the best acting class you could ever take.
Speaker 2: Acting is like a muscle that you have to keep
Speaker 2: working at. And when we are lucky enough to do
Speaker 2: that many episodes and be thrown so many different storylines,
Speaker 2: we really get to work that muscle a lot. So
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been very fortunate to grow as
Speaker 2: an actress on the show. So hopefully there's that change
Speaker 2: that's happened. And then in my personal life, you know,
Speaker 2: I become a mom, which is like a huge change,
Speaker 2: And I think, what's really nice as I get older
Speaker 2: is I care less about what people think. That's a
Speaker 2: really nice feeling. That's a really nice feeling. And I
Speaker 2: feel like that comes with having children too for some reason.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, I feel like because I feel like
Speaker 2: I put myself in their position a lot. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: would I want my daughter Hayden to care about what
Speaker 2: this person thinks of her? No? I wouldn't, So why
Speaker 2: would I care? So I feel like it's given me
Speaker 2: more perspective.
Speaker 1: That's something that I think we all strive to have,
Speaker 1: to be able to not care what people think.
Speaker 2: It's hard it's.
Speaker 1: Hard, man, it's hard. It's hard. Yeah, I imagine that
Speaker 1: was a practice for you to get to that point.
Speaker 2: It was just a natural progression. I'm really good about.
Speaker 2: Like I here's another way in which I feel like
Speaker 2: I've grown. I feel like boundaries was not something I
Speaker 2: necessarily had in my twenties, and I learned like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: boundaries is a really good thing. It's really good for
Speaker 2: me to not go online and read all the comments,
Speaker 2: Like that's a boundary that I make for myself once
Speaker 2: in a while. I like scroll through, but I'm really
Speaker 2: not taking in all the comments like I would in
Speaker 2: the early days, like you know, what's going on, what
Speaker 2: people thinking of storyline? That boundary for me has been
Speaker 2: really good. So I feel like even that those are
Speaker 2: ways in which I've been able to be able to
Speaker 2: step back and again get that perspective and be like,
Speaker 2: is this really part of my world? That my day
Speaker 2: to day world. It's not like what this person's saying
Speaker 2: about me, you know, it's just it's it's learning. It's
Speaker 2: being on the job and learning as you go. You
Speaker 2: know what works for you and what doesn't work for
Speaker 2: you in terms of like your mental health and keeping
Speaker 2: yourself afloat in a really crazy industry.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think that's why you're able to continue
Speaker 1: having such a thriving career while maintaining a sense of
Speaker 1: truly who you are, because we all see that that's
Speaker 1: easily lost in this industry. Yeah, and it's sad when
Speaker 1: that happens. But I look at you, and I see
Speaker 1: somebody so accomplished. I see a kick ass mom. I
Speaker 1: see someone who has an amazing career. I see someone who,
Speaker 1: you know, from what I can tell from social media,
Speaker 1: lives her life with positivity and excitement and truly trying
Speaker 1: to be the best version of you that you can be.
Speaker 1: And all of that, to me means you're accomplished. That's
Speaker 1: a very accomplished human being. How do you view accomplishment, I.
Speaker 2: Think in one way. I mean there are so many
Speaker 2: different ways I feel accomplished, but just being able to
Speaker 2: be a parent, you know, even in my messy mistakes
Speaker 2: as a parent, like I feel accomplished that I'm like
Speaker 2: keeping two kids alive on a daily basis. But in
Speaker 2: one way that I feel accomplished, I feel like I
Speaker 2: never doubted in a crazy industry that this is what
Speaker 2: I would end up doing when so many people doubted
Speaker 2: growing up. You know, like, oh, yeah, she's let me
Speaker 2: an actress like good luck and she's waitressing good Luck.
Speaker 2: You know, I feel accomplished proving people wrong.
Speaker 1: That's powerful. That's powerful because you, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, can say I went for what I wanted
Speaker 1: and I don't have any regrets doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And even if I'd gone for what I wanted
Speaker 2: and it hadn't worked out, I still feel like I
Speaker 2: would have proven people wrong by giving it my everything.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm like sitting here thinking to myself right now,
Speaker 1: what are the times in my life that I have
Speaker 1: felt like I truly, truly, truly didn't care what people
Speaker 1: thought of when I was on the journey to my career.
Speaker 1: And I think you nailed it earlier. It's when you
Speaker 1: get older you kind of step into that more and more.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I definitely do. And when I was back
Speaker 2: when I was like waiting tables at Los Angeles, which
Speaker 2: I had to do for a long time, it wasn't
Speaker 2: like a six months jop. It was like I was
Speaker 2: waiting tables like four years. I was still working and
Speaker 2: waiting tables because I couldn't afford to just work in
Speaker 2: the industry yet, and I would come up to people,
Speaker 2: you know, on my table and they'd be like, chatty,
Speaker 2: you know, what do you do And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm actually an actress and they'd be like, you know,
Speaker 2: I had so many people that I waited tables on
Speaker 2: them were like okay, but what's your plan B or
Speaker 2: like good luck you know, and so I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, I did it nine pm, Thursday nights ABC.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So I had that constant reminder of people underminding just
Speaker 2: strangers underminding what I wanted to do, let alone people
Speaker 2: that I knew, And so, yeah, it does. It feels
Speaker 2: nice to be like, I don't care what you think,
Speaker 2: I'm going to get your hot wings, but like one
Speaker 2: day I'm going to be able to quit this job.
Speaker 2: And that happened, and so yeah, that feels that feels
Speaker 2: like a huge accomplishment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, so you're on one of the
Speaker 1: biggest shows in the entire world, which is a nature puishment.
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of parallels between show and
Speaker 1: real life, but if you kind of separate it for
Speaker 1: a minute and think about who is Camilla Ludington without
Speaker 1: Gray's anatomy?
Speaker 2: What would you say, who is Kamila Luddington without Gray's anatomy.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting question because it does it when you
Speaker 2: when you're on the show for so long, it ends
Speaker 2: up feeling like it is part of your identity because
Speaker 2: when you're out in the world also, that's what people
Speaker 2: are saying, like, hey, you're a jot, you know. So
Speaker 2: to separate myself, okay, I would say that, you know,
Speaker 2: my accent's all muddy right now. I'm from you know,
Speaker 2: I'm from England, but I've just you know, I spent
Speaker 2: so many years on the show and I'm filming in
Speaker 2: an American action that it's all muddy. But I would
Speaker 2: still say that I am still a girl from a
Speaker 2: small town in England with big dreams. I still dream
Speaker 2: really big about other things too. I would say that
Speaker 2: I'm a mother, and I would say that I'm I'm
Speaker 2: really creative. I like to think of myself as very
Speaker 2: creative and fearless. I feel like you can't get into
Speaker 2: this industry without being a little bit fearless. So that's
Speaker 2: what I would say. I am without the show, and
Speaker 2: at some point I will be without the show.
Speaker 1: Is that weird for you to think about? It?
Speaker 2: Is weird? Yeah, it's weird. I think it'll be really
Speaker 2: hard the day that either I leave or the show
Speaker 2: is done, it'll be hard. It'll be hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you don't need to think about that for
Speaker 1: a while now.
Speaker 2: I hope. I hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But of course, when you grow that attached to something,
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, in any industry, it's tough.
Speaker 1: So that's a true sign you're loving the work that
Speaker 1: you're doing. And I think that's really inspiring. And I
Speaker 1: think it's also inspiring that you just said there's other
Speaker 1: things you want to achieve, because someone from the outside
Speaker 1: might look at you and say, oh, that's it. She's
Speaker 1: hit it. There's nothing more for her, Like after the show,
Speaker 1: she can just kind of coast through life and say
Speaker 1: I did it. But you're like, no, I have other goals.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of different things I want to do,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of things that I can't talk
Speaker 2: about that we're even working on right now that are
Speaker 2: just different ways of being creative. So no, I hope
Speaker 2: that this is just part of my story and it
Speaker 2: will be.
Speaker 1: It will be. You have so much going on in
Speaker 1: your life, like any working parent, right, how you take
Speaker 1: that time for you? Like, is it important for you
Speaker 1: to carve out time in your days or weeks to
Speaker 1: have a little self care, a little you time. What
Speaker 1: do you do to just kind of preserve your piece?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is also boundaries, and I think it's
Speaker 2: important and it took me a long time to learn that.
Speaker 2: Like you also need like boundaries with your children. It's
Speaker 2: so easy to not have that because it's like they're
Speaker 2: crawling all over you know, I have very young John,
Speaker 2: I have a six year old, two year olds, so
Speaker 2: they're crawling all over you. They need you all the time.
Speaker 2: You're you know, you're constantly parenting. And so I think
Speaker 2: one thing that I'm still learning to do is to
Speaker 2: have that boundary of like, okay, you know what, Like
Speaker 2: I need even if it's just like mommy's when I
Speaker 2: make a cup of tea and I'm going to sit
Speaker 2: outside and I need you guys to just play in
Speaker 2: the playroom and just give me ten minutes because sometimes
Speaker 2: like I don't have the time to go get my
Speaker 2: nails done or have a massage or go for a hike.
Speaker 2: Like the reality is my meed time might be just
Speaker 2: making a cup of tea and just sitting outside in
Speaker 2: the quiet. So it's like finding those little ways to
Speaker 2: have boundaries during the day, just to center myself, ground
Speaker 2: myself before I go in and deal with the chaos.
Speaker 2: Like that to me is as important as oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to dinner with my girlfriends like
Speaker 2: just that. So finding the moments and having that boundary.
Speaker 2: I also think it's really good for them to see
Speaker 2: me do that so that they can say, you know,
Speaker 2: as they're even as kids, like hey, mommy, I need
Speaker 2: some space, I need I need a second just to
Speaker 2: be in my room, like you know, Lucas is driving
Speaker 2: me crazy, whatever it is, like, I want them to
Speaker 2: learn that they can see from me like that, I'm
Speaker 2: advocating for myself, even if it's just like, hey, I
Speaker 2: need a cup of tea and I want to sit
Speaker 2: outside in the quiet but it's hot. I'm learning to
Speaker 2: still remind myself to make those moments for myself. It's
Speaker 2: really easy as a parent to get caught up in
Speaker 2: the daily chaos and then crash out me in the
Speaker 2: evening and you're like, what have I done for myself?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't even showered, so yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: learning curve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well and I love that. A question I
Speaker 1: never asked to people is how do you balance it
Speaker 1: all as a parent? How do you juggle it all?
Speaker 1: Because it's you don't like it's you can't juggle everything.
Speaker 1: You can't balance it all. I mean, I'm not a parent,
Speaker 1: but I know that without having kids, I feel like
Speaker 1: I can't balance everything. But I carve out time for
Speaker 1: the things that I can and I do the best
Speaker 1: I can, and that's what we can all do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is not going to be balanced. It's a
Speaker 2: juggling act and sometimes you drop the balls and you
Speaker 2: have to pick them back up. But like it's just
Speaker 2: I think there is an element of just advocating for
Speaker 2: yourself as a parent to even your own children, you know,
Speaker 2: and just saying like, hey give me a second, mommy.
Speaker 2: It's too loud, like mommy needs, you know, but it's hard.
Speaker 2: I'm learning, and I'll probably they'll be older and I'll
Speaker 2: still be learning.
Speaker 1: Camilla, you strike me throughout this conversation as being a
Speaker 1: very I'm going to go for something and nothing's going
Speaker 1: to stop me type of gal. And I love that
Speaker 1: about you, because I think fear can be very crippling
Speaker 1: and discouraging, and for all of us, there's moments where
Speaker 1: it tries to creep up, but we have to kind
Speaker 1: of push it away and keep on going. Has there
Speaker 1: ever been a point in your career where you wanted
Speaker 1: to give up? And if so, why, and if not,
Speaker 1: how do you maintain that mentality?
Speaker 2: I honestly never had a point where I was going
Speaker 2: to give up, only because I feel like I never
Speaker 2: had a plan B. I didn't have a fallback plan,
Speaker 2: so it was kind of do or die. It was like, honestly,
Speaker 2: it felt like survival, Like it felt like this is
Speaker 2: the thing that I need to do. It's the only
Speaker 2: thing I really feel like I love and I'm passionate about,
Speaker 2: I'm really good at and so that's it. There's no
Speaker 2: other path for me, and so giving up has just
Speaker 2: never been an option.
Speaker 1: Well it served you who well obviously, so thank god
Speaker 1: you did it. And now are at the point where
Speaker 1: it's time to ask you the very very important question,
Speaker 1: A tough question. You ready for it? Yes, what is
Speaker 1: one thing that you have never said before?
Speaker 2: I have never said I hate sweatpants?
Speaker 1: Ever, I need more information.
Speaker 2: The reason I say this is because I've been joking
Speaker 2: about this week with my husband. When we go into
Speaker 2: a store and I don't know, I really like some
Speaker 2: people go into store and see like a beautiful necklace
Speaker 2: or something like, oh my gosh. The amount of times
Speaker 2: I go into a store I don't care where it is,
Speaker 2: like Target, and I'm like, I'm literally blown away by
Speaker 2: a pair of sweatpants and it brings me so much
Speaker 2: joy to like, oh my god, these are amazing, Like
Speaker 2: nothing brings me more comfort. I'm actually in sweatpants right now.
Speaker 2: I'm in According to sweatpants, nothing brings me more comfort than
Speaker 2: a good pair of sweatpants. So if you ever hear
Speaker 2: me say that I don't like sweatpants, it's because it's
Speaker 2: been written as a line on Gray's Anatomy. You will
Speaker 2: never hear that come out of my mouth.
Speaker 1: So you're super fan.
Speaker 2: I'm a bigger fan. I play in the pandemic because
Speaker 2: I mean, what we're like, we all lived as sweatpants
Speaker 2: and then everyone maybe moved on and I never did.
Speaker 1: And you're also in scrubs a lot, and that's like
Speaker 1: kind of in the family.
Speaker 2: It's in the family. But you would think that because
Speaker 2: I'm in scrubs, like I want to get into like
Speaker 2: jeans when I'm dumb, But no, I just want to
Speaker 2: take it to the level lower and be in like
Speaker 2: full of draw string sweatpants.
Speaker 1: You know what, You inspired me to go put some
Speaker 1: on after this. I don't know why I'm not wearing
Speaker 1: them now.
Speaker 2: That is self care, That is self care.
Speaker 1: You should trademark that saying sweatpants are self care.
Speaker 2: We are sweatpants of self care people.
Speaker 1: Well, on that note, I'm going to put on five
Speaker 1: pairs of sweatpants. Get really comfy, Camilla. I love talking
Speaker 1: to you. You're killing it in all areas of your life,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to continuing to watch you sore.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.
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