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Speaker 1: And are there allocations or adjustments that you have to

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Speaker 1: So he alluded to in the documentary. Sorry, He alluded

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Speaker 1: Tom and I've always had a good line of communication.

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Speaker 1: We've always been I will talk directly with each other.

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Speaker 1: try to find out what that is. Thank you, Okay,

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