WEBVTT - Pitching Ninja joins FT to cover Miz, Melton & more + Dodgers checkup 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.560 Let's talk to Pitching Ninja Rob Freeman right now. Check 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:09.639 out all his content Pitching Ninja everywhere, all the socials, YouTube, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:10.200 the whole deal. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:10.440 Rob. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:12.640 Great to catch up again. Man, Let's start with the 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:15.840 mizz right because he's the cy young front runner I 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.079 can't say the word in the National League. So gets 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:23.200 the two hundred k's in a unique way. He's dealing fastballs, 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.520 what was it twenty one in a row to start 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.680 there against the Twins and then the one hundred plus pitches, 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:31.360 So what else impresses you? 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.360 I mean I was watching the game and going like, 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.720 are we do we know what we're watching right now? 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.840 Because for the first fifty five pitches yesterday he threw 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.120 eighty five percent strike so we're not talking about a 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.519 dude who sprays it around. I was like, what do 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.400 you do? You got to either hope to survive until 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.920 he leaves the game or hope he gets tired, which 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.040 he kind of did later on in that start. But yeah, 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:53.680 it's kind of mind blowing. I don't think we should 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.760 ever lose lose consciousness of what is going on, of 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:58.440 what you're seeing. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:00.120 Bro. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:01.960 First of all, nice seeing you since I saw you 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:03.800 in Philly didn't introduce me to your family. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:04.280 That's okay. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.600 I can't blame you. I introduced I wouldn't introduce myself 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:11.119 to your family either. It's fine, nor well let that go, Rob, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:16.680 But my wife, how good? I mean, you know you said, 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.080 we don't know what we're seeing. How special is what 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.000 we're seeing from the miz I mean one hundred and 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.520 two hundred and three hundred and four, right, and then 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.400 when he needs to, he just goes slider and guys 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.720 swing at it obviously like it's fifty miles an hour 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.360 because they're geared up for one hundred and five. So 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.280 where would you rate this on like the special scale? 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.760 It is way up there. I was actually I've been 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.920 trying to think of that. It's like the Peter Martinez 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.360 years when you're talking about like a zero point seventy 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.479 three whip and just destroying guys. It's kind of like that. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.560 And for me again, it's the command that's just amazing. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.000 It's like de Gram at his height of his at 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.680 the height of his powers, but like SA's de Grom 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.440 two point zero and he does everything so easy. We 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.400 just need to like just appreciate this, get that. 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:08.320 Yeah, the numbers are the numbers are impressive strikeouts. But 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:13.960 so you watch his start in LA, not just the 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.160 one they just added, the one in LA where he's 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.839 complaining about the mound. Is that just a glimpse into 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.880 the fact that this guy's actually landing on a different 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.520 I think you tweeted about it. He's landing at a 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.119 different spot than everybody else. Like you talk about people 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.600 in the game that are changing different things, is there 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:34.040 other things that he's like just that much different, not 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:35.920 just one hundred and five miles an hour. 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.400 Yeah, it's it's actually you know, his pregame obviously, the 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.080 way he warms up is unique. It's a little schemes like, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.880 but his movement is so efficient at his height, so 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.840 he's a combination of really long limbs but moves like 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:53.120 a smaller guy and with that added strength. Again, to me, 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.400 it's he just has put everything together. This is a 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.639 dude who throws absolute flames at the height of his powers. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.799 You know, can he get better? He told me he's 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.600 gonna try to hit one oh six. Let's see, is 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:07.959 it worth it? 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:08.480 Is it worth it? 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.400 Because the name that you just brought up, de Grom, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.680 everyone would be like, no, rob somebody else, like somebody 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.480 that made all their starts. So is one hundred and 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:22.079 six is one hundred and three in the first inning? 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.760 Is it worth it? Or are we going to have 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.560 a short, short window to watch him throw? 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.120 Excellent question. I mean if you look at somebody like, 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.239 we all go back, how hard to Nolan Ryan throw? 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.760 People say, whatever, he threw hard for a long time. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.440 There are guys who throw hard for a long time, 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:41.440 but there are also guys who don't. And you know, 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.360 to me chasing one oh six while you'd go down 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.240 in history, is it worth it to risk injury? Probably not, 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.040 But if you're a competitor, you want to be the 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.040 best at whatever you do. The one thing I noticed though, 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.000 I mean I had a stat today that I tweeted out. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:00.480 If you look at his his slugging against fast over 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.920 one hundred versus fastballs under one hundred, it is huge different. 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.960 I mean we're talking about like one seventy slug on 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:12.400 fastballs over one hundred and five hundred slug on fastballs 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.520 under one hundred. So his velo does matter. He does 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.039 want to throw hard. But then again, is it party 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.960 you mean you hit? Don't you get accustomed if you're 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.240 seeing it all the time, and then a ninety nine 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.559 looks slow, but a ninety nine could look really fast 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.200 if you settle at a different level. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.320 You know what they're slugged against is when he doesn't 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.760 make a start though, yeah, does exactly. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.120 I Yeah, totally agree, And he's he's the weapon. Like 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.800 do you want you want him to pitch against the Dodgers? 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.560 Don't you? 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:42.880 You do? 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.479 You want him to pitch against whoever you're facing, But 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.560 you want him to pitch. You want him you want 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.080 to go to the yard and know that every five 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.040 days he's going to And Nolan Ryan. Everyone talks about 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.280 Nolan Ryan. I just read Tim Brown's book on Nolan Ryan. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.640 I was I'm part way through your book on Unhittable, 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:03.719 and it's it's almost a contradictory story the both of them. 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.200 And the reality is the mi is ain't making any 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.640 money in this game unless he does what pitches and 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.880 so anyway, it wasn't even a question of a cop. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.279 Yeah no, And I totally agree with you, Like the 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.920 biggest ability is actually showing up in it's pitchabillity being 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:24.200 in the game, right, So there's a fine line, like 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.240 they're doing a good job of maybe stretching him out 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.640 between starts and making sure they're not putting too much 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.120 on him. But you need him. He is your weapon, 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.440 and do not do anything to jeopardize that. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.280 Agreed. I agreed, Rob, And it'd be nice with him 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.080 if it was him in Schoogle. But we can't talk 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.960 about that anymore because the burs tried. Okay, the Brewers tried, 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.720 and we're not. We're not going to talk about that. Uh. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.440 Another guy that used to be this weapon, Paul Skeins. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.960 What's happened to Paul Skins? His Velo's down? Is the 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.360 rest of his numbers or have gone way up? What's 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.400 going on? What do you see with Paul Skeens? Because 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.760 last year he was Jacob Mazerowski and now, oh does 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.560 vie He's not dude. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.039 He's like the showcase of my book Unhittable too, because 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.039 there's a bunch of things he's done that have been fantastic. 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.200 He is like the one thing I've heard batten around like, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.560 people are going is he injured or is he saving 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.239 himself for his contract year and just back it off saying, 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:19.560 you know what, I just don't want to get hurt. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.560 I don't think either one of those are true. Based 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.200 on his mechanics, it looks a little bit like he 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.919 may be just in a slump. He may one of 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.840 the things that you see, like his pregame workout when 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.159 he's doing the water bags and all these these twists, 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.800 is sometimes you overdo it, like things that worked at 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.400 one point that helped correct things. Maybe you get stuck 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.520 after a while and it doesn't go on forever. You 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.640 don't get better forever at it. So it could be 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.440 that his body isn't just synced up perfectly, and he 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.240 could fix this in the off season, or it might 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.960 snap together in a start. But his fastball is still 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.200 playing really well. We're not talking about Kyle Hendrix here. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.320 We're talking about a guy who Garrett cole trek school 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.240 ball level. Like he's still throwing hard. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.880 Is it one pitch though? I mean, he's still throwing hard. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.440 That's why I said the other day it's a mile 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:11.080 and a half difference. It still should be effective, But 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.760 isn't it his slider. Isn't the shape of his slider 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:15.600 way way different right now? 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.360 To me, it's more of the stuff that's going armside, 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.920 like he is getting shelled on stuff going armside, so 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.800 his splinker isn't dropping as much, his change up isn't 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.240 moving quite the way he wants it. And if you're 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.280 a hitter and you know that his sweeper is really 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.600 hard to hit, his fastball is still playing as well 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.400 as it's ever played. So I don't think he's a 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.600 guy that necessarily needs to throw, you know, one hundred 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.560 miles an hour to get hitters out. He's really good regardless, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.120 But hitters are just looking for stuff to go armside 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:44.600 and saying, you know, I can deal with that because 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.360 it's splinker's dropping less and his change up's moving less, 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.240 so just look out there. 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.680 I know this is a busy time of year for 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.600 many of you, including AJ. When you're home, you need 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.640 everything to get done fast with quality. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.320 Absolutely. That's why Factor meals are perfect for me. 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Do you feel 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.760 like a guy like schemes knee to look at the 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.160 shape of his pitches and then try to sync it 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.520 up where his mechanics are or does he need to 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.720 first say okay, it's his mechanics and then the shape 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.239 of his pitches will change. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.960 You know that's they're both connected. So to me, I 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.640 would look at the shape of his pitches because he 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.640 can continue to throw the same velo. I don't think 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.160 his velo like if he's throwing ninety seven he's going 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.000 to be okay, but the difference in velo between that 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.839 and his off speed pitches has empressed a little bit, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.640 so you know that you're not you know, if the 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.760 difference in your change up is now a mile and 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.120 a half slower than it used to be, the gap 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.439 is a little less, Hitters can sit on it a 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.680 little bit better, it's moving a little less, so to me, 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.000 it's pitch shape. And you know, he can tinker with 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:45.679 all this stuff in the off season. I think there 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.920 are probably simple mechanic things, mechanical things that can get 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.760 him back where he was. But I'm you know, he 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.920 is far from broken his expected stats, which you're not 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.760 paid based on your expected stats, and your team doesn't 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.080 win based on your expected stats. But you can see 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.120 how his stuff is playing against real hitters, and his 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:05.840 expected SATs are still pretty good. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:07.600 Yeah. 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.800 Well, I was expected to hit a thousand, but I 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.120 did exactly. I can take those and throw him out 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:12.520 the window. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:12.800 Okay. 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.600 Another guy that has incredible stuff that aj Hinch has 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.640 talked about. I know last year when I did the 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.280 Seattle Tiger Series was Melton. Okay, Melton stuff is ridiculously good. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.480 Troy Melton if you haven't seen this guy pitch. 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.360 And last year they were like Hinch was saying, oh man, 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:28.920 this guy's going to be a stud for us. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.360 He's kind of in a hybrid role. They started him 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.880 and his stuff was ridiculous. Now he's kind of starting 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.240 looks like to take that next step. How good can 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:37.720 Troy Melton be for the Tigers? 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.680 Thank you for bringing him up, because I think he 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.600 is one of the most untalked about players in baseball. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.920 Tigers fans know him, but everybody should know Troy Melton. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.720 I mean, those stats speak for themselves. A one four 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.079 six era, and I thought his change up is filthy. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:57.079 He's got a cutter Peter that I mean, Peter gets 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.920 on you. So yeah, I love this dude. He's pitching 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:01.200 beyond his years too. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.880 One of the things you mentioned, Ajsa, you can't talk 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.319 about the Schoobol trade, but I will Scooble for It's 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.120 less about schooball and more about what the Brewers may 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:16.480 have had to have given up. Logan Henderson, do you 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.920 feel like that would be fair if the Brewers had 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.959 given him up based on what you've seen from Logan Henderson. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.959 Logan Henderson is really good. Like I get it. It 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.280 all depends on how you value winning a World Series 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:35.560 this year because obviously a Schooble miss combo, who's going 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.040 to beat that? Like, that's an unbeatable combo. But for 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.560 the future, I mean, I think Logan Henderson is a 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.839 valuable piece for the next several years. And I mean again, 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.320 another guy. Another guy's stats speak for themselves, and they 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.120 do have a rotation that you know, even without Schooble. 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.320 I don't want to go against them because their bullpen 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:56.400 also shortens games. 0:11:58.280 --> 0:11:59.320 Yes, yes, it does. 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.080 Kept looking Anderson. That was their decision, Rob, So we 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.920 all will see how it goes. We'll see how it goes. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.520 Dodgers School in Atlanta with Salamam, with Chrissale. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.400 Too many lefties, too many lefties, Rob, they needed, they 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:13.280 needed Tyler Mollin. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.400 Okay, so they too many lefties. You can't have two 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.240 lefties pitching in the same rotation. That's against the rules 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:18.840 of baseball. 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.240 Yeah, god forbid, especially when the Dodgers have a Toannie 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.520 Freeman Muncy all those lefties in the lineup. 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.800 Kyle Tucker, No, we don't want two lefties. We want righties. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.280 But anyways, well, let's get off, Scooble. I've taken enough 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.080 abuse on Twitter. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.480 I'm feeling sorry for myself after all the abuse on 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.000 Twitter saying the Brewers should have got them. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.400 Let's go to a couple of things to happen this. Yes, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:36.400 thank you, Thank you. Rob. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.400 Next time, just introduced with your wife. Maybe she'll give 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.640 me up. Thanks Mssus Freedman, nice to meet you. But 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.120 Sale and Zach Wheeler had some interesting things happened. Chris 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.680 Sale obviously the ball hall and I've never seen this. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.240 Usually it's once you're declared, you stay and which I 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.960 don't understand, and then we're going after you answer that question. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.640 I want to talk about Zach Wheeler because I have 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:55.439 seen this before. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.079 Yeah, so the Sale thing. Love Chris Sale. I mean, 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.600 you know, technically sure, whatever you have, maybe you have 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.120 to declear every hitter. I don't know that it's crystal clear, 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.360 but if you do, He's never had to do it 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.880 in his entire career, and I've never seen anybody do that. 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.960 So this is an umpire who wanted to prove that 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.679 he knew he knows the rules, and kind of he 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.959 did that throughout the game. I thought, and yes, if 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.000 you go fifty six and a fifty five, you're technically speeding. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.959 But if you get pulled over by a guy when 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.760 you're going fifty six, I'm going like really, like really, 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.800 And I love that he got ejected here because this 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.240 is what you should do. Fire the team up, Chris Sale, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:37.960 he's awesome. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:40.040 Agreed, Agreed. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.319 Like I said, I once got ejected before a game started, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:43.120 so I know how it feels. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.720 I wasn't a starting pitcher though, so it was fine. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.240 It was fine. It wasn't a big of a deal. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:48.760 But I love Chrysale. 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.640 I taught him, well, so if you got a day 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.440 you're not starting, you want to get ejected, go for 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.240 it and pay your five hundred dollars fine, thousand dollars, fine, 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.560 and move on. But again the umpireson just said, hey, 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.640 we screwed up. Let's put the guy back on third. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.679 There was a pitch throwing. It wasn't that ball hit. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.800 It was nothing exactly. It was not super super stupid. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.120 Now the Zach Wheeler thing, right, he's pitching off the rubber, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:10.760 is he? 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:11.160 Though? 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:12.880 But I did see Ted Lilly do this. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.040 Ted Lily used to go like six to eight inches 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.000 in front of the rubber when he would go in 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:19.920 the wine, if he'd go like this and then he'd 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.000 move his back foot if it was like here, he 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.880 would go this far forward and then throw the pitch. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.160 And we kept telling the umpires and they just never 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.640 would do anything about it. We're like this dude literally 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.760 jump takes it. When he goes over his head, he 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.200 take moves his back foot. It moves like six to 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.520 eight inches off the rubber. Now he's off it to 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.960 a side. Okay, But I mean I was always told, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.200 as long as a piece of your cleat is touching 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.360 the rubber, you're fine. I don't know ted Lily was 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:44.920 a little different because he went forward. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:47.200 Yeah, I mean. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.320 I noticed this with Wheeler two. I think it's like, 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.680 come on, how much it doesn't give my ton of advantage? 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.400 Move over in inch that'll be okay. But yeah, I 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.000 talked to Nolan Ryan about it. Nolan Ryan, you know 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.760 dude who threw absolute flames on mounds that were little. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:02.360 Eh. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.640 He moved in front by like six inches. Umpires didn't check. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.280 So could you imagine like Nolan Ryan throwing heaters throw 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.760 from six inches closer? Kind of not fair, But it's 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.520 been going on for forever, like this is just baseball. 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.600 Little things. You try to get an edge. Maybe they 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:17.720 push him back a little bit. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.800 I played with a reliever that would come in and 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.440 cover the rubber up with dirt so he could start closer. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.080 Anyway, he was a different cat. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.040 But Kevin Gosman is this was this one of the 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.680 trades that you go when he goes this new team, 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.560 I want to see how they handle it because of 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.920 the trade, because he ended up throwing more splits than 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.200 what did you say in the last six years. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.120 Yeah, I mean that's the probably the change I would 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.440 have made, too, Like his splitter is one of the 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.080 wonders of baseball in the modern era, Like he is 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.400 a it's filthy, So I would throw it more often too. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:58.000 You throw your best stuff more often, and. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:59.520 That's the only change that you make. Or do you 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.280 feel like there's something else mechanically as far as like 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.720 a lower slot where he's releasing that splitter from. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.680 It is really hard to make mechanical changes during the season. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.280 I hate that. I mean, it's the same thing I 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.160 was worried, Like, I think schemes fix himself in the 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.360 off season. I think you can play with things in 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.400 the off season. I would just go based on pitch 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.520 mix and just make changes that way and say, hey, dude, 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.400 throw your best stuff more often and see what else 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.520 snaps into place once you do that, versus making specific 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:33.120 changes lower on your arm angle whatever. Gosman knows his 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:37.080 splitter better than any pitcher knows any pitch, because that 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:41.440 dude gave me a twenty minute dissertation on splitters and 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.320 all the things he's tried, and it's on YouTube somewhere, 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.120 but it's absolutely mind blowing. Nobody knows their pitch is 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:48.240 better than Kevin Gosman. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.160 Oh yeah, smart guy, really well spoken too. So he 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.600 was acquired by the Cubs along with Clay Holmes. We 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.720 haven't talked to you, of course since the trade deadline, 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.000 and a ton of starting pitchers move that are going 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.160 to make an impact down the stretch, and a lot 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.040 of guys moved that can start playoff games. 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.640 What did you like? Give me a name or two. 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.000 Where you're like, I really love that acquisition for this team. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.199 You know, I know that people are going playing the 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.679 Braves that didn't do it a lot, but I like 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.359 the Tyler Maley ad because I think he's a really 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.920 good pitcher and can give them, you know, value deep 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.760 in their in their rotation without having to do much. Obviously, 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.480 schoolbol jumps out to you. But like the Dodgers needed 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.120 any more stuff? You know, those were really the two 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.760 and the people that did the team that didn't decide 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.720 to make moves I thought were interesting. 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:34.880 Yep, no good call. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.360 What about one more padres with Mees and Robbie Ray? 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.080 Do you think that'll work out? 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.159 Yeah? I mean I I do like Casey Mies's stuff. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.240 I think he's going to keep getting better and better. 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.400 I mean I remember him back in college. Even dude 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.840 is a pitcher, knows his stuff, and I think that 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.159 is a really good ad. And Robbie Ray's is a 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.480 pro like he's going to give you innings. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:55.080 Yep. 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.080 Well, Rob, good catching up and yes, a reminder of 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.240 everyone to check out his book. 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.679 Just look up at Ninja and you can give it 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.480 a look. Rob. Great catching up, man, Thanks for the time. 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:06.760 Great catching up. And I'll make sure my wife says 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.920 hi next time, Aje. I will make sure I introduced her. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.880 Yeah, if she walked up to me and said hi randomly, 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.080 that would be really awkward for you and for her, 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.800 not for me, because I would make it totally not awkward. 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.240