1 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: What is up? What is happened? In this is the 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Beatdown Podcast. 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: I'm your host, senior writer for The Walton Commander, Zack Selby, 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: And Hey, we got to win to talk about as 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: the Commanders took down the New York Giants twenty one 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: to eighteen, nevermind that it took seven field goals, as 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: Austin tiber tried it out there and broke a franchise record, 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: and how many touchdowns they could have scored pointers that 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: they won, gritty game they're won, and one on the record. 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: But now they do have another challenge and that that 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: will not be enough for seven field goals. It will 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: be the Cincinnati Bengals, who they are going to play 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: in primetime on Monday at Football at pay Course Stadium. 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: And how the Commanders do this even though it feels 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: even though they are rozhero and two, how do how 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: do they come out with an upset here? And we're 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: going to debate that and with me we have Scott Jackson. 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: You can find them on the Scott jacks Jon Espn 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: Righty the Big one hundred on gay Dads for the 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Commanders and the Legendary Chicken and is currently working for 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 2: USA nine and CBS Sports has been the business for ever. 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: Guys, how y'all doing careful with that forever? Okay, very good? 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, chick forever? Huh do you like that intro? 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 2: That's tremendous as someone who is just cracking into thirty forever? 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: Is you know anything previous nineteen ninety two? 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well, yes, I have been in the business. 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 5: Loan's you've been alive, So that's true, Zach. 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: Yes, that is not the age you there. 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: But all right, so before we get into the nitty gritty, 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna explain exactly what we're gonna what's gonna be 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: happening over the next thirty minutes or so. We're going 33 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: to debate on three questions, one on offense, one defense 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: and more general question here. Uh, and these guys will 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: be given points, but they it was more the more 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: subjective than anything else. We should be more important is 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: the information and the takes that these guys have because 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: they are some of some of the experts that we 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: have here who cover the Washington Commanders. But since it's 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: my podcast, I can decide who the winning the loser 41 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: is sendence without further ado, Let's just get into it. 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: Starting with one of the biggest questions Washington has to answer, 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: how do you get to put. 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: Pressure on Joe Burrow? 45 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: Because you know his numbers don't literally look all that 46 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: book tackle the rights around the middle league and yards 47 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: middle league and in passerating in QBR right now. But 48 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: this is still a guy who had bat to back 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 2: four thousand yard seasons with the comeout player of the year, 50 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: has thirty plus touchdowns in. 51 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. 52 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: This guy is still going to be able to hurt 53 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: the Commanders in a lot of different ways. It's an 54 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: interesting challenge for Joe a junior. So, uh, shape will 55 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: start with you, what is the what can Joe junior 56 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: do to put more pressure on Joe Burrow? 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 5: Well, first off, you know, Scotty, did you know this 58 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 5: was a half an hour? And did you know we 59 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 5: were debating each other? 60 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: I mean I did not know. 61 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: Now I'm learning all this as well, and I didn't 62 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 4: know we you know, we had to score points. 63 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, this is this is news to us young 64 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 5: to the young guy, the senior writer. 65 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: Uh, just a little lacking in the info. This is 66 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: gonna be great. 67 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna come as best like to simply 68 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: can what can Joe Witt Junior do? 69 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: Ah? 70 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a great it's a great question. 71 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 5: Well, first off, he'd love to take Cliff Kingsbury out 72 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 5: to dinner and say, hey, dude, can you hold the 73 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 5: ball for an extra long amount of time? Can you 74 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 5: get can you win the time possession battle? That's number one? 75 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 5: Keep the Bengals offense off the field. I don't know 76 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 5: what Joe Witt Jnr. Can do other than have his 77 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 5: guys step up. Well, we had one sack last week Cleveland. 78 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: I don't. 79 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 5: I don't know because quite frankly, I don't have confidence 80 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: in the secondary yet. I don't have that yet, So 81 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 5: I don't. They got to figure out a way to cover. 82 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 5: And can you push Joe Burrow a little bit? Sure 83 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 5: you can, but I'm gonna fail. I'm gonna sorry now, 84 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna lose this opening battle because I don't know 85 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 5: if you can put extra pressure on Joe Burrow. 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: You can't. 87 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 5: You can't blitz and leave your your corners on an 88 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 5: island because right now the commander's corners have proven that 89 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 5: they can't be on an island yet. 90 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: It's they're not there yet. 91 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: Communication issues are an issue, all of it. They got 92 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 5: better last week, but right now I'd love for them 93 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 5: just to be able to cover more than pressure Joe 94 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 5: burn Now, I don't want Joe Barrow sitting back there, 95 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 5: you know, doing his thing so much. 96 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: We got we got issues. 97 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: So just this on aside for a second. The opening 98 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: the opening text that I sent both of you highlighted 99 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: that yes, you two would be debating over three questions 100 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: about about the team, and it would be at the 101 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: end here it said it will take you about thirty minutes. 102 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 5: So just just so you know the technical information, is 103 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 5: this the text from like two weeks ago? 104 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: Don't Yeah, you don't have that? 105 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: It is? 106 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you know I'm a senior now, so my 107 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 3: memory doesn't quite work as well as you used to. 108 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you already said chick's been around forever. 109 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I already been around forever. Apparently the memory is 110 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: not around for that completely. 111 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: Am I talking with again? I'm sorry? Okay, good? Uh 112 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: that's that's my that's that's my that's my answer right now. 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: I don't I just Tehn JR. Can can? 114 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 5: I think he's got to really get his backers and 115 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 5: secondary guys covering more than pressuring Joe Burrow. 116 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 3: I'd love for them to pressure. 117 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 5: And and but you know, the two DT's in there, 118 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 5: they're they're some of the best. But I haven't seen 119 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 5: a whole lot of pressure so far in the first 120 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 5: two games. 121 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: Fair point on that, now, Scott, I'm gonna go over 122 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: to you because Chick also brought up a good point 123 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: about the communication errors and it's you know, and dan Quin. 124 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: So they did get a little bit better against the Giants, 125 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: but he's tried as going from a D to a C. 126 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: Uh So, how what kind of problems now? 127 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: They do have Jamar Chase, they have Tiggins Higgins who's 128 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: training towards playing on Monday. Uh So, Scott, like, what 129 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: what is your biggest issues with the secondary going against this? 130 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: Uh? This, these wide receivers that Joe bur is gonna 131 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: be thrown to, Well. 132 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: I mean it's a it's a huge, huge challenge. I 133 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: mean this, you know, Cincinnati has not been great, although 134 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: they were a lot better last week against that Kansas 135 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 4: City defense and even with like a very small production 136 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: from Jamar Chase. And you know it's gonna come for 137 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: Chamar Chase at some point or another. That's what's that's 138 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: what's goind of were you and look that the commanders 139 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 4: have had an issue getting home with four. Uh, they've 140 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: had an issue even when they blitzed his chick pointing 141 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 4: out of the back end. You don't want to make 142 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: a living doing that against Burrow Beau. He he'll carve 143 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: you up with the blitz. And you know he's sneaky 144 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 4: mobile too. I mean he can still move despite that 145 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: a cl injury his rookie season, So he's he's a 146 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: guy that can beat you with his legs when he 147 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 4: needs to as well if if you're if you're undisciplined 148 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: and lead gaps open or and he's also going to 149 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 4: climb in the pocket and throw it on the move. 150 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 4: So I would be you know, I would be more 151 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: along the lines that you got to really try to 152 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 4: mix it up and just hope, you know, really to 153 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: me this game, you know, you know, jumping ahead to 154 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: question three, it's really about about taking the air out 155 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: of the football, you know, more than anything, kind of 156 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 4: like you did last week. They did. They did a 157 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: good job with that last week, taking the air of 158 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 4: the football, limiting the Giants opportunities. But I really think 159 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 4: that's what your your mindset has to be going in 160 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: this game. But a small is like, okay, we could Joe, 161 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: what Junior do? Yeah? Mix it up. You know, you 162 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: can't get started. You know, if you find something that's working, 163 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: obviously stay with it. But I would imagine, you know, 164 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a mixed bag of like, we're gonna 165 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: try everything and see what sticks here with this guy, 166 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: and you're gonna you know, you're gonna hope that your 167 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: secondary gets their hands on some footballs. I mean, you'll 168 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: get some picks. I mean, certainly, I think we expect 169 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: that at some point from this defense, just seeing how 170 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: it funkes into the past and what these two guys 171 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: did together in Dallas. But you know, these guys look 172 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: like group they haven't played a ton of snaps together, 173 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: which they haven't, which is kind of this theme around 174 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: the NFL right now with a lot of teams. So 175 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: hopefully it just keeps getting better each week. But this 176 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 4: is no doubt the hardest spot they'll be in in 177 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: the first three weeks. 178 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: Can I make an addendum? 179 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: One addendum, please go ahead. 180 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: I think the. 181 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 5: Other thing is Jamen Davis was inactive last week healthy trash. 182 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 5: I think he plays this week, and because he can 183 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 5: do so many different things and he can bring some 184 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 5: pressure off the edge. 185 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: Love to see him. 186 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: I mean, if I if I, if I have Davis 187 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 5: and that's the guy I'm going to send to go 188 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: after Joe Burrow, That's the guy I'm going to have 189 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 5: shadows somebody out of the backfield, all that jazz. They 190 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 5: had to do it last week because they need an 191 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 5: extra BT in the lineup. 192 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: But I think if you have. 193 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: Jam and Davis in that on that active roster, he 194 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 5: might I'm gonna go back to my old school English, 195 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 5: he might could be a difference maker. 196 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: So you touched something I want to I want to 197 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: expand on here is you know Joe Burr has been 198 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: sacked six times. Four of those sacks have come on 199 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: third downs. So do you expect chick that they're going 200 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: to probably you know, obviously Joe Junior is going to 201 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: see that because you know that Joe Burrow likes the 202 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: hole onto the ball and make thing. He's supposed to 203 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: play downfield. Do you expect them to bring jam and Davis? 204 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: Do you expect them to bring maybe you know, four 205 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: or five? Maybe you know, six defenders on some occasions 206 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: to get to get the speed up pressure for Burrow. 207 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 5: Well, I think surely third down would probably be the 208 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: normal one for Joe Witt Junior. 209 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: Can we call him j w J or something or 210 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: just aware. 211 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's too many Joe's in this spot. 212 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: So long, so long. Again. I'm a senior, so it 213 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: takes me a while to say these things. 214 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 5: Uh I uh, yes, I mean if if you can 215 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 5: get him in a third and and know above five yards, 216 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 5: then yeah, I wouldn't send six, not with. 217 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: That defense right now. No, but I would certainly send an. 218 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 5: Extra body and see what you know, early on, early 219 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 5: on the first few h possessions, to see how they 220 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 5: handle it. And these are smart guys, they're gonna you know, 221 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 5: they're they're seeing the pictures in the film directly after 222 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 5: a series. They'll see what Cincinnati's doing and how they're 223 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 5: trying to protect and and and and then you figure 224 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 5: out a way, uh to send maybe an extra another body. 225 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 5: But right now, i'd love to see Jamie Davis in Atlanta. 226 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I absolutely think he's gonna be. I think he 227 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: could possibly be, uh you know backer there for sure. 228 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: Enow Scott I'll bring this to you before we hitd 229 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: On too. The next question here is that the the 230 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: Commanders are eleventh and pass Rush Win Win Ray, but 231 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: they're last in our time for last in sacks the season. 232 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: So I mean, do you say that they eight are 233 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: able to get to Burrow? Do you think that's going 234 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: to be able to help the secondary as they try 235 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: to you know, contain chase and takings if he plays, 236 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: and all these other receiver options that they have out there. 237 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you could speed him up like 238 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: anybody right, like get him out of their rid and that, 239 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: that's great. If you can get home more importantly, which 240 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: they obviously you've just pointed out, they have not betting 241 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: able to do, which has been a little bit frustrating 242 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 4: in these first couple of games. But yeah, look what 243 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: you got to do. As you've seen with Burrow, I mean, 244 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 4: they're not going to beat you running the ball. The 245 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: Bengals do not run the ball well, I mean losing 246 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: Joe Mix and you know we're moving on from Joe 247 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: Mix and everyone to look at that has not proved 248 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: to be really smart in these first few weeks. And 249 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 4: then obviously we haven't seen that the ft Higgins. So 250 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: maybe he's the you know, the key that opens up everything. 251 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: But but yeah, I would like to think that, you know, 252 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: if you can get home on a few of these, 253 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: because he will hold it a tick longer to make 254 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: the big places. You pointed out, he's not afraid to 255 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: try to extend. He's ultra confident and you know he's 256 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: he's you know, they was talking about his wrist injury 257 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: or whatever. I don't know, man, it looked like you 258 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: was throwing the ball to fine. I mean last week 259 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: it gainst the Kansas City Save the player too. He 260 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 4: was he was pretty dang sharp. H you know, they 261 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 4: had a shot to win that ball game. But anyway, yeah, 262 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 4: I would I would hope to think that, yeah they can, 263 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 4: they can actually get home this week or at least 264 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: speed him up. And you know, you created some turnovers, man, 265 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: That's that's what's gonna take. Steal some possessions here and 266 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: shortening their amount of possessions. 267 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And you know, I do I do 268 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: think you know, you mentioned a good point about about 269 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: Joe Burry being able to hold onto the ball for 270 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: a tick longer, and I think that really is going 271 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: to be able to help them get get this offense 272 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: off the field, because the Bengals offense has been. 273 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: Sputtering a little bit. 274 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: Even you know, even though you t Hagens hasn't been 275 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: like is not gonna be the the whole factor into that. 276 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: There's a lot of a thing evolved into it. 277 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: But at the same time, the Bengals offense is not 278 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: where you would expect it to be over the first 279 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: two weeks. So we're gonna move on to the next question. 280 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: But first score up Tate. As Chick predicted, he is 281 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: currently losing. 282 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. 283 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: I did like the point you brought up on Javi 284 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: Datis because I do think he's going to be able 285 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: to play a big factors game with his speed, his 286 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: quickness off the edge. 287 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: I think that's something that the. 288 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: Commanders were kind of missing, uh last week with him 289 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: being a healthy scratch. So I expect him to be 290 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: to be a pretty big player in this game. Going 291 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: on to the offense side of the ball, the speaking 292 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: of struggles with with the offense, the Commanders have, you know, 293 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: they had six scoring opportunities in the red zone and 294 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: they came away with field goals on all of them, 295 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: So it could very could easily have been a blowout 296 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: honestly if they had been able to execute and finish 297 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: on those drives. But for several reasons, false starts, lack 298 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: of lack of production in certain areas, they were only 299 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: able to come away with twenty one points on seven 300 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: seven trips. You know, I guess if you count the 301 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: seventh one outside of the twenty one yard line. But 302 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: you know, Scott will start with you a simple question here, 303 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: what do the commanders do to fix these red zone problems? 304 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: Like? 305 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 2: Is there something simple to it is a little more complicated, 306 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: like is it just getting work more together? 307 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: Like how do they how do they able to finish in. 308 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: The red zonees put up touchdown because they're going to 309 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: need that against the Bengals. 310 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. I hope they can get there five 311 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: six times again, it'd be great. Well, well, first and 312 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 4: foremost you hit it. I mean, just don't beat yourself. 313 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: I mean, last week, how do we know what they 314 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 4: could have done in the red zone with all those 315 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: false starts and you know, pre staff penalties absolutely murder you. 316 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: I mean, they had a fourth and a half yard 317 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: and you feel good about the way they're moving the ball, 318 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: The opening drive and send it rocks and they got 319 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 4: to kick the field goal, I mean, and then you 320 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: had the one cause me on the I think it 321 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 4: was on the first and goal that set them back, 322 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 4: you know, so they just kept moving themselves backwards once 323 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 4: they would get down there with either penalties or or 324 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: you know, negative plays. You just can't have that kind 325 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: of stuff. So I would say, you know, obviously just 326 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 4: a cleaner operation. We'd love to see if those plays 327 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: were good or bad. You know, we don't know. MENA 328 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: see Brian Robinson the Wildcat, I'm getting excited and then 329 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 4: the play doesn't go off and I'm like, well, I 330 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: don't know that would have worked tonight. And you saw 331 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: it the week before and it worked some success against Tampa. 332 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, I thought the week before the red zone 333 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 4: they were good. And I granted a lot of that 334 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 4: stuff was when they were down, you know, and it 335 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: was late and you know, you ever want to see 336 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: Jadie and take those kind of hits, But they were 337 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 4: effective down there with some of those three option looks. 338 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: So I think, you know, in this game, you know, 339 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 4: hopefully again opportunities number one of the red zone smarter 340 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: with you know, you don't urt yourselves. But let's see 341 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 4: if these plays work. But I like the idea of 342 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 4: Ertz down there, like the idea of a quarterback option 343 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: down there, whether he keeps it, throws it, or runs it. 344 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: And obviously keep the keep hammering the rob An Eckler 345 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: because that's been working for him. 346 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, shake the committeers put at four and 347 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: twenty five yards of offense, which is one of the 348 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: best days they've had in you know, over a year. 349 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: But at the same time, they only had I think 350 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: about less than thirty yards on plays inside the twenty 351 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: yard line. So what are they able to do to 352 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: get more production out of their offense to stop stalling 353 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: in these scoring positions? You know, obviously b rob is 354 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: important factor there, but Jade and Daniels didn't really hit 355 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: his targets as he as he would like to. So 356 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: what can they do to keep the momentum going outside 357 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: of the twenties and pring it inside the twenties. 358 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: First off, Scotty is. 359 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 5: The Russian judge scoring this competition because he literally said, 360 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 5: you know, he liked my point about Jamon Davis and 361 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 5: I still took the l anyway. So here's the deal 362 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 5: and my wife brought this up and it's an excellent 363 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 5: point and she's not a football expert, nor am I. 364 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 5: Really what can they do well? As Scotty said, he's 365 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 5: got to stop beating yourself. It's it's a it's a 366 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 5: concentration thing, it's a it's a paying attention thing. And 367 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 5: to get five false starts is ludicrous. You can't kill 368 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: yourself and flat out the rookie made some bad throws 369 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 5: down in the red zone, simple as that, he's going 370 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: to do that. He's a rookie, left some passes in 371 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 5: the dirt, missed opportunities. That's what they did. What can 372 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 5: they do well? You got to pay attention and be better. 373 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 5: Simple as that. 374 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: Pay attention and you have to be more disciplined. 375 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 5: That's what coach Quinn told me on Monday, was disciplined. 376 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: Got to be more disciplined in everything you're doing. When 377 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 5: you leave that huddle. You have to know exactly what 378 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 5: you're doing and then not cost your team, simple as that. 379 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: It's really that simple. You can physically. 380 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 5: Execute as much as you want, but if you're crushing 381 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 5: your squad before you ever snap the ball and you're 382 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 5: going backwards, well you just you put your foot up 383 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 5: in a hole that you just and you do it 384 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 5: more than once. You just can't dig out of the 385 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 5: fact that you're owing a six in the red zone 386 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 5: with an offense that's you know, been garnered. 387 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: By Cliff Kingsbury. You can't have that. That cannot happen 388 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: and expect to win a football game. 389 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: No, you're you're absolutely right. 390 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: I mean it's the procedural stuff that's really putting the 391 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: put the team back because there was a lot I mean, 392 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: it wasn't even just in the red zone, right, there 393 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: was a lot of moments they were on the first 394 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: down panels, they were automatically going from first and first 395 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: and ten to first and fifteen or and that it's 396 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: hard to build momentum and sustain drives when you're starting 397 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: off behind the sticks like that. 398 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: Colin did also. 399 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Mention I want you to expand on this, like he 400 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: mentioned a silent counts and things like that. Do you 401 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: think that's do you think as simple as is that? 402 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: Or is you know it's they're just playing more together 403 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: and getting these being these taking these lumps and not 404 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: not being able to produce. Like what is is if 405 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: the fall starts, canna be able to get be fixed 406 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: by these silent counts, because right it's gonna be very loud. 407 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: It'll be loud. 408 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 5: And Cosby said that there's still a young Scott, but 409 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 5: I just think that's an excuse. 410 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 3: You can be young like you want. 411 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 5: In practice, you blare the music and they do that 412 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 5: in the bubble as well, and you learn how to 413 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 5: go off a silent count. The veterans know how to 414 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 5: do it. I'm sure Ben said it in college, had 415 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 5: to do it at some point. That's just got to 416 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 5: be practicing. Jaydon Daniels has been in huge football games 417 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: in college with stadiums that were more packed than some 418 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 5: NFL stadiums will play in this year, so he's he's 419 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 5: well aware of what needs to take place. Yeah, I 420 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 5: just it just bears down to discipline, and I know 421 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 5: that the on line coach will be working this week 422 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 5: to make sure that that's all tightened up. 423 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: As I say, now, Scott, before we move on you 424 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: real quick. 425 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 2: You mentioned Brian Robinson, and you know the kid had 426 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty three rushing yards as part of 427 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: the two hundred and fifteen rushing your day for the team. 428 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: Do you expect that to continue to think do you 429 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: think he's going to be able to build on that 430 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 2: because this bangles defense. If there's one thing they do poorly, 431 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: it is defend the run, especially up the middle of 432 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: their devisit tackles all on the injury report right now. 433 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I love that matchup. That's the best matchup is. 434 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 4: We were obviously both just kind of like dreading talking 435 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: about the matchup for the defense. I actually liked the 436 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: offensive matchup when it comes to the strengths of this team. 437 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I think you can definitely found 438 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 4: the rock on him and that's what they're gonna want 439 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: to do. And you know, again, I just think Brian Robinson, 440 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 4: we've seen it from the get go when the staff 441 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: got in there, he's just so excited and he's he's 442 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: running with such an attitude and it you know, he 443 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: just feels like he's unleashed because clearly last year he 444 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 4: was underutilized way too often. Is frustrating, you know, and 445 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 4: it's great. I like the way to use him an Ecklert. 446 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 4: I think each week you'll see that expand a little bit, 447 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 4: so that that's been really exciting to watch. 448 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has. 449 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: I think we were all very excited to see him 450 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: carry the ball seventeen times and come up with, you know, 451 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: two thirty plus yard plays, which he only even had 452 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: that many for his entire career heading into the Giants game. 453 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: So Scoreton for the last question, shout out to your wife, Chick, 454 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: because she helps. 455 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: You out a lot. You are now within one point 456 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: of Scott. 457 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 4: Phone a friend next time for the question three, you. 458 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 3: Can call my wife, call Chase. 459 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: Please, we do a phone. 460 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: A friend here, we can do We can do that, 461 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: all right, So last question. So there's gonna be several 462 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: commanders players are gonna have to play big roles uh 463 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: in in this game if they are able to get 464 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: a win. But we're gonna stick to two here, and 465 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: you mentioned one Brian Robinson Scott, but we're gonna mention 466 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: another Benjamin Saint Juice, who it seemed like he he 467 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: was performing the bet the better of the secondary. As 468 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 2: you know, he went against Millie Nabors quite a bit, 469 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: had a couple of pass breakups, and I think he's 470 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: gonna be he's gonna be busy going up against Higgins 471 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase. 472 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: So, uh, Chick, we will start. 473 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 2: With you who needs to have a bigger game. Benjamin 474 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: Saint Juice or Brian Robinson. 475 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 5: Well Higgins practiced on Thursday. Start check him in the lineup. 476 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 5: And what I liked about the Benjamin Saint Juice last 477 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: week was he basically was very honest and said, look, 478 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: we gave up the underneath throw because they got beat 479 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 5: like a redhead stepchild. Uh no offense seck uh uh 480 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 5: you know in the first game deep and and so 481 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 5: they made they basically said, you can beat us underneath, 482 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 5: You're not going, you know, getting behind us. But my 483 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 5: answer is Brian Robinson. And here's why. This is a 484 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 5: guy who obviously we know his store. He season gets 485 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 5: shot and and comes right back and starts play year 486 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 5: and last year we all know it. He was completely 487 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 5: ignored in that Eric Dean of the offense. One of 488 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 5: the reasons that Eric enemy is no longer here. 489 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 4: Uh. 490 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 5: He's a guy who runs angry, but he's got a 491 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: smile on his face because he knows what's coming in 492 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 5: this Cliff King's Ferry all up offense. And what he 493 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 5: did last week was not only run the ball, but 494 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 5: kens the ball and the combo of him and Austin Eckler. 495 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 5: So it's a bus decision when b Rod gets to 496 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 5: the line for DBS, because he is a load and 497 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 5: he is coming hard, they have to tackle differently for him. 498 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 5: Then all of a sudden, here comes to change the 499 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 5: pace with Austin Eckler. Where you think you can break down, 500 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 5: you can't break down because he's so shifty, makes moves. 501 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 5: We saw guys catch air last week a couple of 502 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 5: times with Austin Eckler. So a b Rob is having 503 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 5: that kind of day that opens up everything for that 504 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 5: offense and it has Cincinnati's defense going where's it coming from? 505 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: The nest? 506 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: Benmon Saint Jus just has to play his position. He's 507 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 5: only one guy in that defense. But a b Rob does. 508 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: What he could do. 509 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: He creates a whole new offense for this team and 510 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 5: creates a whole lot of problems for Cincinnati because they 511 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 5: then don't know where it's coming from. Because not only that, 512 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 5: but Austin Eckler, Terry McLaurin gets opened up. And oh, 513 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 5: by the way, Noah Brown, not too shabby, not too 514 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 5: shabby at all, and he'd creates something. So if b 515 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: Rob is doing his thing, that just opens up a 516 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: whole lot of. 517 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: Lanes Scott what you got for me? 518 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like to be different, but I'm totally 519 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: a chick. Obviously. I tip my hand in the first question. 520 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 4: You know, look, first of all Saints, you's played great 521 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: last week. He was our defensive player of the game 522 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 4: and all that stuff because he was the past breakups, 523 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: the the peanut punch was the big one of the 524 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: biggest plays of the game because the steels possession for 525 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 4: you and you score on it and the Giants don't 526 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 4: get to score. So I think he was great. I 527 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 4: think keep doing what he's doing. I think just keep 528 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: building for him. I'm I'm confident he can do that. 529 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 4: But this is a tough matchup. I mean, whether he 530 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: gets Higgins or Chase or whoever. I mean, it's it's 531 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 4: not easy. But b Rob can dictate the way this 532 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: game's played like this can change the way the game's played. 533 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: You know how this works, especially with a guy like 534 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor. You know, one of these wiz kid offensive coaches. 535 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 4: They didn't get a little antsy if their offense isn't 536 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: get a lot of opportunities in rhythm, and then they'll 537 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 4: do things impatiently sometimes, you know, because they haven't been 538 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: on the field. So if you can take the air 539 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 4: front of the football, keep Joe Burrow and his weird 540 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 4: haircutting bleached hair on the sideline as long as possible. 541 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 4: I think it really changes everything. Takes the crowd out 542 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 4: of the game, I mean, really just sucks the life 543 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: out of the other team. And I think you saw 544 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: that last week in some degree with the Giants. I mean, 545 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: it's old school football. It's not you know this kid 546 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: in Cincinnati, you know, calling Cliff Kingsbury college offense or whatever. 547 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 4: Man he's playing with. The defense gives him right now, right, 548 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: this is the new NFL where you're not gonna let 549 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 4: anybody beat you over the top. Dare people to be 550 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 4: patient and running. And Cliff Kingsbury's doing what he's supposed 551 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: to be doing, and so was this team. And I 552 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 4: think it kind of plays their hands. I mean think 553 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: I think one of the things we slept on we heard, Hey, 554 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: Cliff kings here is the new OC. We're like, oh, 555 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: air raid, man, they're gonna be throwing fifty times, They're 556 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: gonna be you know, the shotgun and all the stuff. 557 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 4: But you know, when he went back and looked at 558 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 4: those years with Arizona. They actually ran the ball really well. 559 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 4: I mean they were you know, and it wasn't just 560 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray. The running backs could really get some good space. 561 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see b Robin this game and 562 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 4: Eckler and you know, like I chick said, that could 563 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: open other things that you know, everybody's been begging for 564 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 4: Terry to get some opportunities. But they're gonna be patient. 565 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: Just don't tourst it, you know. And I think Jayden, 566 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: you know, had the right mindset when he talked to 567 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: everybody on Thursday about this. He's got to wait for 568 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: it to happen. But yeah, Noel Brown was great last week. 569 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: Hect Hommy Brown. You got opportunity to make a really 570 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: nice player that that wide receiver screen, you know, really 571 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: was close to breaking that one to a freat figure gardage. 572 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think these guys. I think the offense 573 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 4: is headed the right direction allot the way Hurst was involved, 574 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 4: and I think all that stuff starts with b rob 575 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: So he's by far the most important part of this 576 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: football game. You know. 577 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: Be Rob had carried about seventeen times on Sunday. He 578 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: had that he had that toll or surpass it just 579 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: four times all of that season. So I fully expect 580 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: there could be another big averag from Brian Robinson this week. 581 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: Uh every time, you know the Patriots and the Chiefs, 582 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: they when they when they beat the Bengals, they were 583 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: hear the ball thirty plus times. So I would fully 584 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: expect you. And there's not going to be a word 585 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: like it's going to be all gash plays all the time. 586 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a coming where where that defense is 587 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: going to win a couple of times. But the good 588 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: thing about b Robb is that he's able to plow 589 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: through those guys and keep his legs churning and come 590 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: up with these with these really gritty plays and. 591 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: Occasionally has the speed to bust out of there. 592 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: All right, So. 593 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 2: After hearing everyone's points, I have tallied up the scores 594 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: and Chick, it looks. 595 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: Like you are the victim by one point. How you 596 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: feel about that? 597 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: It's Gotti hate it. 598 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 4: I didn't know, Like first of all, I didn't even 599 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 4: know where allowed to use spouses. I mean, I could 600 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 4: have my wife up here telling me some proud you 601 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: could have could have next time. 602 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: Next time. 603 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: You'll have to keep in mind that it is a 604 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 2: group effort, not just not just one. 605 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: Next time, I'm just gonna refer to a Selby article 606 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 4: and then I'm sure i'll win immediately. 607 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: Oh, in that case, that is definitely going to be 608 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: a win. 609 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 4: I read this from you, Zach this week, and you know, 610 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: I'll see how that gets me. 611 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: I just want to I just have one I mean, 612 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 5: this is, this is I think this is the key 613 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 5: to this entire week. 614 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: And I have one question, and that is what kind 615 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: of hair product do you use? 616 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: Zach oh Man? 617 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: You know, uh, it's a really simple palm made. I 618 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: use a very kind It's the it's the Dove palm 619 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 2: mad Uh Okay, yeah, not a whole lot, you know, 620 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: just just a dabble, do you And you know my 621 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: hair every day you gotta get the heat protected to 622 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: make sure, you know, you know, mess up your hair 623 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: because you're your blow drying your hair every day. 624 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 3: But heat protected. 625 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 626 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never heard of this in my natural born life. 627 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: Well as someone who is fallically challenged, I would imagine it. 628 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: Hey, I can grow let's let's be I can grow 629 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: a full head of hair. 630 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 5: I just don't I don't want to see any of 631 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 5: the Grayce. I grew hair a couple of years ago. 632 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: We're really going off topic here. I grew hair a 633 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 5: couple of years ago and died it blonde for a 634 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 5: bet with somebody on on social media. 635 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 3: And when folks don't know, uh, as I grew up, 636 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 3: I grew it. 637 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 5: We took a picture of it, and I won a couple, 638 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 5: let's just say, a fair amount of dollars from somebody 639 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 5: on social media because they said that I was folloic 640 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 5: a challenge and couldn't grow hair. Uh. 641 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: They were drastically wrong. 642 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 5: So I can grow it, uh and bind you my 643 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 5: The top hairline is receeating like Daryl Green on a 644 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 5: on a fly pattern. 645 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: But I can still grow the full head. But I 646 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: don't like the way it looks. 647 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 5: So I think when I retire in about seventeen years, 648 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 5: I'll let it wave out. 649 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: You know, I stay corrected for sure, and hey, you 650 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: know what the look works for you. 651 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: Chick, I'll all that and I'll give you that appreciate. 652 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: That's why I'm offended about Joe Burrow. Somebody, as you know, 653 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 4: as you get older, doesn't grow as well as it 654 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 4: used to, and you're like, well, what, how dare this 655 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 4: guy Brouin a perfectly good head of hair with whatever 656 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: he did to himself. 657 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: How dare that's very yeah, I don't know what that is. 658 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. 659 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 5: I'm sure in that locker room, that Bengals locker room, 660 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 5: they must be thinking, Joe, seriously, what do you what 661 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 5: do you want? 662 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know, Tom Cones for all of us, and 663 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure Joe Burrow myself, we'll be dealing with several 664 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: follicle challenges as we as we get into the fifties 665 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: and sixties. But guys, this has been fantastic. I really 666 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: appreciate you guys coming on uh and everyone listening. Please 667 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: be sure to rate, review, subscribe, and we will get 668 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: back to you guys the next week. This has been 669 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 2: the beat Down Podcast.