Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller
Speaker 1: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. If
Speaker 1: you thought more hours a day dred minutes a week
Speaker 1: was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of the
Speaker 1: old republic a sole fashion of fairness. He treats crackheads
Speaker 1: in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich pill
Speaker 1: poppers in the penthouse, to clearinghouse of hot takes, break
Speaker 1: free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller
Speaker 1: starts right now in the air everywhere eight days a week,
Speaker 1: eight days a week, unless we're not here, then it's
Speaker 1: not eight these a week. But four hours obviously not
Speaker 1: enough on the overnight, So we welcome into the Friday
Speaker 1: Podcast and we attempt every Friday on the fifth Hour
Speaker 1: to have a conversation we do not do on the
Speaker 1: overnight show. Interviews. We talked to crazy drunk people that
Speaker 1: call the show up and lunatics we love. There are
Speaker 1: family in the Mallard Militia. We don't do any interviews
Speaker 1: because we'd have to tape those. I know some of
Speaker 1: the other shows do that, and how boring is that?
Speaker 1: Who wants to listen to a tape? Show on a
Speaker 1: live radio program, but on the podcast format, of course,
Speaker 1: we have the avenue of doing that, and so we
Speaker 1: will welcome in in a few minutes. This is a
Speaker 1: political hour, political hour on the fifth hour, but we
Speaker 1: are joined yet again by David Gascon. Not Gascon. Gascon,
Speaker 1: you believe in fighting crime, unlike the other guy who's
Speaker 1: got a very similar name to you. Yeah, I feel like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the pronunciation is one thing, and uh and the revolt
Speaker 1: to the correct resistance is another. And uh. I feel
Speaker 1: like where we're at right now is just luny tunes.
Speaker 1: But I digress as I get my hands ripe and ready,
Speaker 1: because I am preparing this lovely Friday morning for Benny
Speaker 1: versus a penny tonight. We got a lot of things
Speaker 1: on the menu today. We do have a lot going
Speaker 1: on here, and it's good. The year winding down and uh,
Speaker 1: you know the thing with your name and the new
Speaker 1: district attorney in Los Angeles. It reminds me one of
Speaker 1: my great, big, biggest supporters in Michigan was a guy
Speaker 1: who had a goofy nickname and he used to call
Speaker 1: the show. In fact, he was one of the originators
Speaker 1: of the Mallard militia and the guy came up with
Speaker 1: he stopped listening years ago because it's a long story,
Speaker 1: it's a long, convoluted story. But he was a huge
Speaker 1: fan and his nickname on air was Johanna John. Alright,
Speaker 1: I remember him, Yeah, yeah, and it was a great nickname.
Speaker 1: It was fun, you know whatever. And then the whole
Speaker 1: Middle Eastern terrorism thing took over. And then if you
Speaker 1: remember about maybe twelve ten, twelve years ago, I forget
Speaker 1: your time. All is just I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: can't even tell you when, but it was within the
Speaker 1: last fifteen years or so, and I think it was
Speaker 1: closer to last ten. Um there was a terrorist that
Speaker 1: was doing horrific things and they the media tagged him
Speaker 1: Johadas John. So we had to change we had to
Speaker 1: change the name of the harmless sports radio caller Johadas
Speaker 1: John because some lunatic was going around, you know, chopping
Speaker 1: people's heads off in the Middle East, and it happened
Speaker 1: that the media dubbed him with the same name. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't think I would be telling that story today,
Speaker 1: but now and every time I see the name of
Speaker 1: Gascone and it just is people pronounce it Gascon though
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't pronounce it gascon. They pronounce it's
Speaker 1: pronounce it guest gun. So anyway, this is a political hour.
Speaker 1: If you're not in the politics, I get it. And
Speaker 1: it's fine. You don't have to listen, you know, give
Speaker 1: you a mulligan. You can give us a mulligan if
Speaker 1: you want. But I'm interested. There's a lot going on.
Speaker 1: You don't have to just stick to sports on a podcast.
Speaker 1: And so this is guy we've had on before political
Speaker 1: put it Dave Ruben. We're both big fans of Dave Reuben.
Speaker 1: He's got a big talk show about free speech, the
Speaker 1: Reuben Report, he's got the he's all over social media.
Speaker 1: He's on the political shows on Fox News and news
Speaker 1: Max and a bunch of the channels there. He's got
Speaker 1: a book out, don't burn the book. And so we're
Speaker 1: just gonna try to get the lay of the land
Speaker 1: here at Guesscon from someone who's in in the ring,
Speaker 1: fighting the political fight day after day, and this is
Speaker 1: his world. I I just kind of peek in, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a sporty guy. I just I I'm into politics,
Speaker 1: but I'm not like hardcore into it. We're all maybe
Speaker 1: I'll check it out after the show. I might see
Speaker 1: what's what happened the last twenty four hours in the
Speaker 1: political world. But this guy is right there getting his
Speaker 1: hands dirty day after day. When you think about some
Speaker 1: of the world's greatest creations, Um, it's one thing to
Speaker 1: have something that really changes the world. But can you
Speaker 1: think of an item just off the top of your
Speaker 1: head that was created and you just thought that thing
Speaker 1: is so stupid but so useful. I wish I would
Speaker 1: have created that. Oh god, everything, I'm like, yeah, everything,
Speaker 1: anything I see said, why didn't I think of that?
Speaker 1: That's how you know obviously. So it's so if I
Speaker 1: were to rewind your life back ten years and I said,
Speaker 1: hey Ben West of the four or five guests, g No.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if I was to rewind your life
Speaker 1: back ten years and I said, hey Ben, you could
Speaker 1: you can be really successful and really maximize your potential
Speaker 1: and making money by creating a show that talked about
Speaker 1: free speech, would you have been like, what the funk
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Or would you would you thought
Speaker 1: something must have happened in the world, Because that's in
Speaker 1: the sense what Dave is doing right, He's talking acknowledging
Speaker 1: about free speech, your ability as an individual to act
Speaker 1: on your own accord and do the things that you
Speaker 1: want to do. And nowadays it's almost polarizing for him
Speaker 1: to say that because we need to con form, we
Speaker 1: need to be in line. Right Yeah, yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: mean listen, the thing about Ruben which is good, I mean,
Speaker 1: thing I really like about him. He's very smooth on
Speaker 1: his delivery and his approach. I mean, it's it's taking
Speaker 1: the DMV handbook and making it seem simple. You know,
Speaker 1: it's that's that's a skill. That's an art that not
Speaker 1: many people have the ability to do. Anybody can talk
Speaker 1: about sports or politics, but the communication aspect of it
Speaker 1: is the part where he's just just wonderful at that,
Speaker 1: in in the delivery, the whole thing. He's so good
Speaker 1: at it. And someone that we work in the media business,
Speaker 1: so you when you find people like that, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: this is great, this is this is wonderful. Let's give
Speaker 1: me more, give me more, give me more. Now, keep
Speaker 1: in mind, I mean, I know we're gonna get some people.
Speaker 1: Oh I can't believe you had Ruben on. He's a hack,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're gonna there's gonna be those people that, uh,
Speaker 1: we gonna they just go go crazy over this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. But we're fans of him and we've had
Speaker 1: him on before, and so I'm excited. I figure with
Speaker 1: all that's going on, and the the inauguration day is January.
Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday, and so that's like pretty much a
Speaker 1: month away. Right, We're looking about a month away from
Speaker 1: having a president sworn in, unless that somehow gets delayed,
Speaker 1: which I don't think it will. But so anyway, why
Speaker 1: don't we want to bring him in right now? Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, let's bring in now the host of the
Speaker 1: Reuben Report. We just said, Dave Reuben joining us, And
Speaker 1: so Dave, why don't we start with that. We'll piggyback
Speaker 1: off what we were just talking about. Here. Is the
Speaker 1: election over, Well, I'm not convinced that the election is
Speaker 1: completely over. I mean, there are still a couple of
Speaker 1: things working through the courts at the moment. And you know,
Speaker 1: Sidney Powell, who is a respected lawyer, it's harder for
Speaker 1: me to believe that she has completely decided to self
Speaker 1: emolate and destroy her personal life and career in the
Speaker 1: name of this thing. Now, that doesn't mean, she really
Speaker 1: has something and she's got a crazy case to prove
Speaker 1: here that these dominion machines were switching votes and flipping
Speaker 1: votes and eliminating votes on top of a couple of
Speaker 1: the other things that are going on with mail and
Speaker 1: ballance and everything else. But I will say this, and
Speaker 1: this is why I'm sort of a little bullish on
Speaker 1: the Trump situation at the moment, at least relative to
Speaker 1: the mainstream people, which is that over the four years
Speaker 1: that we had the Trump presidency, uh was with us,
Speaker 1: he basically beat everybody every single time. So was he
Speaker 1: not ready for the final boss of the video game?
Speaker 1: Was he not ready knowing that they might try some
Speaker 1: crazy stuff with voting machines and the rest of it.
Speaker 1: I suspect he's got something left in his pocket. But
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. And if I am wrong and against
Speaker 1: to the end of it and the courts don't get
Speaker 1: anywhere and bidens the president, I'm okay being in the
Speaker 1: opposition that there, right. Yeah, And if you we've all
Speaker 1: seen the video, So I don't know if we've all
Speaker 1: seen it, because I guess depending on where you get
Speaker 1: your to you you haven't. As far as the election
Speaker 1: and some of the stuff that went on there. Uh,
Speaker 1: is this every election? Is this unique? Or is this
Speaker 1: I'm trying to wrap my mind about because I know
Speaker 1: in the last twenty years, with these big presidential elections,
Speaker 1: there's always been something that people have complained about. Is
Speaker 1: this just the way that elections are run or is
Speaker 1: it extra extreme this year? Yeah, that's a million dollar question,
Speaker 1: right because you know, we didn't have the internet the
Speaker 1: way we have it now. We didn't have the ability
Speaker 1: for videos to go viral, and for electors and people
Speaker 1: that were watching the ballot boxes and the rest of it,
Speaker 1: for them to be able to take videos on their phone.
Speaker 1: And now we see all these strange, shady things happening,
Speaker 1: and you can see videos of people pressing different touch
Speaker 1: screens where it appears mozart flipping. Look, every every election
Speaker 1: in the history of the world beyond America has some
Speaker 1: level of fraud. Obviously, there's no such thing as a
Speaker 1: perfect system. Human meanings are not perfect. We cannot create
Speaker 1: perfect systems, So you have to acknowledge that a certain
Speaker 1: amount of fraud is built in. Is it possible as
Speaker 1: we shift more to digital and more towards mail in
Speaker 1: ballots that we're basically, uh, causing a breeding ground for
Speaker 1: more and more fraud to take place. It seems like yes.
Speaker 1: And then when you compound it with the fact that
Speaker 1: social media exists, so now we can all see it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing if there's a certain level
Speaker 1: of fraud and we can't see it, But then you
Speaker 1: just go on with your life. Now you start seeing
Speaker 1: stuff and then you go, oh, wow, is this the
Speaker 1: first time this has happened? Or am I just seeing
Speaker 1: it for the first time. But I think the bigger
Speaker 1: thing that that fits all of that is that we're
Speaker 1: basically in a reality war, because depending on what news
Speaker 1: you watch and who you follow on Twitter, you could
Speaker 1: think that this thing was totally stolen or you could
Speaker 1: think it's totally legit right now, and you'd both be
Speaker 1: living on the same planet Earth, but you would both
Speaker 1: be living in a very different, uh sense of reality.
Speaker 1: It's the Twilight Zone, Dave. Everyone's got there all mentioned
Speaker 1: in the Twilight somebody. As far as the just in general,
Speaker 1: I mean, you cover this stuff all the time. You're
Speaker 1: a political pun and as you dig uh, and so
Speaker 1: if you look at the election objectively, it's such a
Speaker 1: large country Democrats and Republicans can't agree about anything. So
Speaker 1: if you were to say, let's have election reform, how
Speaker 1: would you possibly get these sides to agree on anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the fundamental issue. These sides not only disagree on everything,
Speaker 1: but they have a very fundamentally um opposite view of
Speaker 1: what America is. I mean, trying to write my mind
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, he's gonna hire a bunch of
Speaker 1: Google and Facebook people for different roles there. What do
Speaker 1: you think that's all about. Oh yeah, they're doing it already.
Speaker 1: They've they've announced they've got a whole bunch of Facebook
Speaker 1: com people and Google Comms people that they're already bringing
Speaker 1: into the administration. So one of the irty is that Trump,
Speaker 1: in many ways was the last thing fighting big tech.
Speaker 1: In other words, big tech knew they couldn't go too
Speaker 1: overboard with Fannings and the rest of it because Trump
Speaker 1: was there and maybe he was going to do something
Speaker 1: with an executive action and start taking legal action and
Speaker 1: try to break them up in the rest of it.
Speaker 1: If Trump's gone, well, congratulations, You've got the political elite
Speaker 1: and the and the tech elite all on the same side.
Speaker 1: And why would they allow for dissenting voices. Why would
Speaker 1: they allow people they don't like and deem scary and
Speaker 1: who are maybe against lockdowns or whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: Why would they let them on their platforms if they've
Speaker 1: run around and labeled all these people nachies and biggots
Speaker 1: and the rest of it. So I think if you
Speaker 1: thought was weird, is going to just be completely bananas.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that Donald Trump will be banned from
Speaker 1: Twitter once he's no longer president? Are they going to
Speaker 1: kick him off there? I think it's possible, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where you go ahead and
Speaker 1: do that and then you're pulling like an obi wan.
Speaker 1: You know, if you strike me down, I'll become more powerful,
Speaker 1: then you can possibly imagine. So I think they'd have
Speaker 1: to be careful what they wish for um, but I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put any anything past them. I mean, if they
Speaker 1: really want to make it seem like this, this movement,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, that this thing is
Speaker 1: radical and should not be tolerated and should not be
Speaker 1: mainstreamed or normalized, which is really what they wanted all along,
Speaker 1: well then you would go ahead and get rid of Trump.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that weakened him. I think it
Speaker 1: probably strengthened him, Dave. You know, there's certain thoughts that
Speaker 1: I know, Ben and I have talked about when you
Speaker 1: arrive in certain cities like the Big Apple and you
Speaker 1: get to New York or are you gonna go to Boston.
Speaker 1: There's just that that fuel and that energy. Even going
Speaker 1: to Sense City is different because you see those lights
Speaker 1: from the luxur l and they shoot up and you
Speaker 1: get that that rush of let's go gamble, let's go party.
Speaker 1: And New York's got that different beasts as well. But
Speaker 1: you were in DC recently, just a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: just a week ago. Um, what was your feeling like
Speaker 1: when you landed? And how is the overall trip? Give
Speaker 1: us the skinny on it. Yeah. Well, first, I gotta
Speaker 1: say I love d C. I mean, you know, for
Speaker 1: all the complaining that anyone can do about politics, I
Speaker 1: love the history of this country. I love those monuments.
Speaker 1: I love going to the museums. I love the learning
Speaker 1: about our founders and all of that stuff. I've been
Speaker 1: there dozens and dozens of time. At times it never
Speaker 1: gets old to me. But I gotta tell you this time,
Speaker 1: it was seriously depressing. I mean, there was nobody out
Speaker 1: on the streets. I posted a periscope video just walking
Speaker 1: around the streets, and quite literally all I saw were
Speaker 1: homeless people. That's it. I mean, I actually, at one
Speaker 1: point I did see three guys. Turns out that they
Speaker 1: were fans of mine, so that so that was fun.
Speaker 1: But there were just no people out there. There's no tourists.
Speaker 1: Everything's closed. You know. At one point I was trying
Speaker 1: to find something for lunch. Couldn't even find a place
Speaker 1: that was open. And you know that that we've allowed
Speaker 1: our cities to become waste lands in essence is very dangerous.
Speaker 1: It's very scary, and unfortunately, I don't think it's going away. Well,
Speaker 1: and then also I saw you, uh I think you
Speaker 1: put posted this. You were talking about cal Fornia. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Are you leaving California like everyone else they were? You
Speaker 1: gonna stay in California? Are You're gonna head to Nashville
Speaker 1: or Austin or somewhere else? Well, for the record, if
Speaker 1: I if I do leave, I sense I'm more of
Speaker 1: a Florida guy. I'm more of a beach guy than
Speaker 1: a than a Texas guy. But I'm trying to fight
Speaker 1: this thing from here. You know, if if we're really
Speaker 1: at the point where nobody can live in a state
Speaker 1: that they don't fully agree with their politics, and then
Speaker 1: then in many ways the American experiment has failed. And
Speaker 1: I'm not quite there yet. So I'm willing to pay
Speaker 1: the high taxes for a little bit longer, but you know,
Speaker 1: at some point the rubber meets the road. At the
Speaker 1: very least to Dave, because I can't defend Ben in
Speaker 1: this capacity, but at least in your downtime you know
Speaker 1: how to cook a steak. Vans not doing it so much,
Speaker 1: but at least you're doing it. Yeah, he loves let
Speaker 1: me tell you, Dave. The other Dave here, Guscan loves
Speaker 1: when you post food pictures. That is you know, you
Speaker 1: think you're known as the political guy, but when you
Speaker 1: post food pictures, that is what he really that resonates
Speaker 1: with him. So listen, I people love the food pictures.
Speaker 1: And you know, I got a I got a pretty
Speaker 1: sweet built in grill here, and I'm doing all kinds
Speaker 1: of you know, bone in ribs and try tips and
Speaker 1: all kinds of all kinds of fun stuff. And you know,
Speaker 1: partly what I've been saying all along, during lockdown is
Speaker 1: some people went into lockdown and they're coming out even
Speaker 1: though we're not quite out of it, they're coming out worse.
Speaker 1: You know, they gained weight, they just were depressed. They
Speaker 1: play video games and watched port all day. Or you
Speaker 1: could come out of lockdown and be a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you learn to cook, or you learn to
Speaker 1: play an instrument, or you started exercising more of the
Speaker 1: rest of it. I've tried to mostly be on the
Speaker 1: ladder side of that, so people do love the food
Speaker 1: picks and hopefully I've got a couple other people doing
Speaker 1: some of that stuff to themselves. Well, let see, Dave.
Speaker 1: The backstory with all this is that Ben had a
Speaker 1: birthday here and uh, I was back in April. It
Speaker 1: was back in April, and I bought the dude a
Speaker 1: Tomahawks steak nicely, nicely rap ready for for a barbecue,
Speaker 1: and and he promised me that he would eventually barbecue
Speaker 1: when the weather appropriated it. Um. We live in southern California,
Speaker 1: so it should have been at any time. And to
Speaker 1: this day, to this day, it's got freezer burns on it. No,
Speaker 1: just not have I'm waiting. I'm waiting for the perfect
Speaker 1: moment here to cook the steak. The steak isn't a
Speaker 1: climate control the freezer. It's going to be fine. Oh listen,
Speaker 1: If that thing has freezer burnt on it, that is
Speaker 1: a damn shame because there's not been better than a good,
Speaker 1: better than a good all right? Yuh? And now, David,
Speaker 1: as far as the I would go back to California,
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed here. I I am so frustrated with the
Speaker 1: politics in California, coming from the governor on down. And
Speaker 1: we do I do a sports radio show. We do
Speaker 1: sports radio during the week, and it's you know, I
Speaker 1: know this is a little microcosm of just the world,
Speaker 1: but you watch different games in like Florida, or there
Speaker 1: was a Monday night game in Cleveland this week where
Speaker 1: they actually had fans, and then you've got in California.
Speaker 1: The forty Niners have to leave the state because of
Speaker 1: some politicians in in that area and you know, no
Speaker 1: fans allowed. It's it's just so crazy how they operate here.
Speaker 1: And the governor with the whole French laundry thing. Do
Speaker 1: you think there's a chance here that people might actually
Speaker 1: wake up in California? The people that are left here
Speaker 1: and say what are we doing and let's change some
Speaker 1: of these politicians around. You know, one of the strange
Speaker 1: things about California, and I moved here after living in
Speaker 1: New York my whole life is that if you talk
Speaker 1: to anybody in California, they tell you that the whole
Speaker 1: place is mismanaged. They're like, the taxes are high, the
Speaker 1: roads suck a lot of homeless people, I'm seeing more
Speaker 1: drug use in my community, schools are terrible, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And yet they seem unable to connect that to the
Speaker 1: fact that they always vote Democrat and that work Democrat
Speaker 1: run state. So you know, you'll see something like people
Speaker 1: will be saying, Okay, well California, the education system here
Speaker 1: is terrible, and then they'll be blaming Trump or blaming
Speaker 1: the Republicans, and it's like, no, they don't have any
Speaker 1: thing to do with any of this. So so somehow
Speaker 1: making the connection between oh, I vote for high tax
Speaker 1: people that then put in policies that destroy small businesses,
Speaker 1: like making that connection seems very hard for California. But
Speaker 1: I will say this, I've met a ton of people
Speaker 1: over the last few months who are a political who
Speaker 1: you know, maybe ran a business or a restaurant, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, and that are suddenly going, WHOA, I didn't
Speaker 1: even realize what I was voting for. So I do
Speaker 1: think there's an awakening. And you know, I've been pushing
Speaker 1: the recall Gavin knew something. We need three thousand signatures
Speaker 1: because that guy's an absolute nightmare. Spent fifteen thousand dollars
Speaker 1: on booze alone at that dinner at French Laundry, David,
Speaker 1: is there any kind of any kind of emails, direct messages,
Speaker 1: any kind of text messages that you get that you think, hey,
Speaker 1: well this is we can take a pragmatic approach to
Speaker 1: this in California and something that's actually constructive and tangible,
Speaker 1: regardless of Gavi Knewsome's recall or not. But there's some
Speaker 1: wild things that are going on here, especially here in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles with a new district attorney with no relation
Speaker 1: to me. But is there a right right right? You're
Speaker 1: sharing the last name of the new guy and up,
Speaker 1: I hope you're not related to them. No, no, But
Speaker 1: is there anything that you get that you've received from
Speaker 1: individuals that you say, like, there's actually something here that
Speaker 1: we can we can show off the bone a little
Speaker 1: bit and work on I think the main thing is
Speaker 1: that it's up to you. You know. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people think that somehow they're going to vote
Speaker 1: in somebody that's going to save them, or the cavalry
Speaker 1: is just going to show up one day and turn
Speaker 1: this all around. But the simple truth is this is
Speaker 1: on us. So every time I see someone that owns
Speaker 1: a restaurant, fight back, and we're seeing this more and more.
Speaker 1: Every time I see someone just freaking walking down the
Speaker 1: street without a mask and it's okay, you're walking your dog.
Speaker 1: It's l a, it's seventy five and Sonny, whatever little
Speaker 1: protest you can do in your life. You know, I
Speaker 1: work out of my house. I have I have my
Speaker 1: staff come here every day. I serve them food. We
Speaker 1: sit there and we talk, We we laugh. You know,
Speaker 1: these are things that Eric Arsetti wanted us to cancel.
Speaker 1: Eric ARSETI is not my king, and he's not my god,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately he is my mayor. But that doesn't give
Speaker 1: him dominion over my life. So I think if you
Speaker 1: just go out and live your life as you see fit,
Speaker 1: and and just because they say something doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: have to obey it. That's the greatest thing you can do,
Speaker 1: is an American truly. What have you done on the
Speaker 1: business side of things with with the studio set up,
Speaker 1: with your staff be Is there anything particularly that you're
Speaker 1: working on right now that you're excited about. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we started doing this daily show. I I
Speaker 1: signed on to a three day a week show at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the fall, and it was going so
Speaker 1: well that we expanded it to five days a week
Speaker 1: and I'm still doing the interview shows obviously, and the
Speaker 1: numbers have been really good, and you know, people are
Speaker 1: people are interested. I mean, look, the main thing that
Speaker 1: I try to do is talk about politics in a
Speaker 1: way that will not make you angrier or dumber by
Speaker 1: the end, because if you turn on CNN, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you, anyone listening to this, you turn on
Speaker 1: CNN for fifteen minutes, you will either be dumber or angrier.
Speaker 1: That did. And what I try to do is say, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on in the world. The world's
Speaker 1: pretty nuts. There's some serious stuff. But here's here's three
Speaker 1: or four stories that I think you should kind of
Speaker 1: know about. And if you give me twenty minutes, you know,
Speaker 1: put it in your head and then and then walk away.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's a better way of approaching
Speaker 1: the news rather than what most people are doing, which
Speaker 1: is just keeping everybody outraged. And politics is not everything.
Speaker 1: It's just not Davis, we wind down and get ready
Speaker 1: for one any prediction on when things might actually return
Speaker 1: to normal as far as general rules and regulations, are
Speaker 1: we just going to be stuck like this? I saw
Speaker 1: Bill Gates said it's not I don't know how Bill
Speaker 1: Gates has all the answers, but what's your Bill Gates?
Speaker 1: Bill Gates? This guy. First off, I saw that interview
Speaker 1: with Tapper, and it's like Bill Gates lives in a
Speaker 1: hundred fifty million dollar mansion in Washington, which has no taxes.
Speaker 1: By the way, he always tells you tax the rich
Speaker 1: and increased taxes, but he happens to live in a
Speaker 1: state with no taxes, a hundred fifty million dollar mansion,
Speaker 1: which I don't begrudge him, by the way. You know,
Speaker 1: I believe in capitalism, but think about the amount of
Speaker 1: chefs and staff and landscapers and all of the people
Speaker 1: that he's got working for him in his little fifed
Speaker 1: him And meanwhile, he's telling these other people that you
Speaker 1: can't go to work and you can't make a living
Speaker 1: and everything else. So you know, these are not great people.
Speaker 1: And and then I think we again, we keep sort
Speaker 1: of thinking that just because the politician says something, or
Speaker 1: because the tech guy says something, that that means they're right.
Speaker 1: But it's just not the case. But as far as
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately, the lockdowns have have been effective at
Speaker 1: breaking the American spirit in many ways, and I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that want to keep that going.
Speaker 1: You know, when Biden tells you, I want a hundred
Speaker 1: more days of a of a federal mask man end date,
Speaker 1: and people are like, oh, well that makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, look, it was ten months ago they were
Speaker 1: telling us two weeks to flatten the curve, and now
Speaker 1: he's asking us for a hundred more days for masks
Speaker 1: in two months from now. None of it makes any sense.
Speaker 1: There's no science behind it. Why should rancher in Montana
Speaker 1: have to wear a mask in the same way somebody
Speaker 1: walking around Times Square in New York City? Ship Dave,
Speaker 1: what you mentioned that small businesses being closed down our
Speaker 1: micromage and the larger ones not so much. Who are
Speaker 1: some of the reporters that you've looked up to are
Speaker 1: looked for with regards to answers and why um or
Speaker 1: what they've done to attack or question people in power
Speaker 1: that I've tried to trample over individuals rights. O. Man,
Speaker 1: that's a great question, and the answer is there are
Speaker 1: not many. There are not many, you know, off the
Speaker 1: top of my head, just thinking of a reporter who
Speaker 1: I think is doing really good job. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think Andy no has done a great job of in portland'
Speaker 1: you know, talking about what's going on with Antifa and
Speaker 1: some of the unrest that's up there. There aren't that many.
Speaker 1: I think the best you can do to stay in
Speaker 1: form is trying to find a couple of people that
Speaker 1: can that can kind of filter the news for you
Speaker 1: in a way that that as I said before, it
Speaker 1: doesn't make you crazy, doesn't make you dumber or angrier.
Speaker 1: So that that's what I try to do. There's a
Speaker 1: couple of people that I respect in that space. I
Speaker 1: think Ben Shapiro does a nice job of it from
Speaker 1: a conservative perspective. I think Glenn Beck from a more
Speaker 1: libertarian perspective. But you've got to find a small group
Speaker 1: of people that you basically think you can trust and
Speaker 1: guess what, they're going to get some stuff wrong along
Speaker 1: the way, including me, And and that's not really the
Speaker 1: key thing. The key thing is are they are they
Speaker 1: doing their best to not manipulate you that that's what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do? That really is it? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: mean one that I look at the most is Katherine Herridge.
Speaker 1: She came from Fox. Now she's over at CBS, but
Speaker 1: she really lays things out, highlights things on our tweets
Speaker 1: and and responds reports accordingly. But it just seems like
Speaker 1: when you are in d C and you're you're in
Speaker 1: that that melting pots, sometimes you get you get stuck
Speaker 1: in all the residue and it just it reeks when
Speaker 1: you're when you're reporting the news or at least trying to, well,
Speaker 1: that is what happens. You know, these people that are
Speaker 1: the pure creatures of d C. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: politics is not everything. And I think they've tricked a
Speaker 1: lot of people. This is what the progressives have done
Speaker 1: really well. They've tricked everybody to thinking that politics can
Speaker 1: solve all of your problems. But politics cannot make you happy,
Speaker 1: politics cannot give you purpose. Politics cannot give you a
Speaker 1: reason to wake up in the morning. Politics if if
Speaker 1: you're really thinking about it, it's sort of an unnecessary
Speaker 1: offshoot of being free, meaning that we're born free and
Speaker 1: then you need some structure so that we're not killing
Speaker 1: each other. That that pretty much is what politics is.
Speaker 1: And I always liken it to Game of Thrones. It's
Speaker 1: like Game of Thrones was a constant quest for power,
Speaker 1: which is what politics is. The last scene of Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones, I hope I'm not blowing it for any everybody,
Speaker 1: but the last scene is a bunch of guys sitting
Speaker 1: around the table and everyone else that's you know, he
Speaker 1: is dead, and they're not that thrilled about it. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like that, that's how it ends. Because politics is
Speaker 1: about crushing people. I want to free people. So in
Speaker 1: a weird way, I'm less interested in politics now than
Speaker 1: I've ever been, which is a bizarre thing as a
Speaker 1: as a guy that talks about politics a lot, just
Speaker 1: don't ever say bend a knee, all right, exactly exactly. So,
Speaker 1: So Dave Well, I want go back to Trump here.
Speaker 1: So if he doesn't, if he doesn't pull a rabbit
Speaker 1: out of his hat here and he's done for now
Speaker 1: as president. What ends up happening? I know there's been
Speaker 1: some reports about the deep state charging him with crimes
Speaker 1: and all that, and you think that's actually gonna have mean,
Speaker 1: that's kind of been an unwritten rule, right the president.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't charge the president. Is what would
Speaker 1: Trump be in legal jeopardy? You think, well, I hope not,
Speaker 1: because you're right. It would break precedent that I think
Speaker 1: would lead us to a seriously dangerous place. Look, every
Speaker 1: administration done some shady stuff. You know. The truth is
Speaker 1: that if you if you remove the impeachment that ended
Speaker 1: up sailing and in essence was a sham. If you
Speaker 1: remove that, Trump didn't have scandals. There were there were
Speaker 1: made up media things about leaks and people saying he
Speaker 1: eats too much ice cream and his steak well done
Speaker 1: and like, you know, some nonsense, but there weren't major
Speaker 1: scandals in terms of selling arms illegally to somebody, or
Speaker 1: entering a war out of nowhere or the rest of it.
Speaker 1: So the idea that they'd go after him for crimes
Speaker 1: is pretty dangerous. But what that would ultimately lead to
Speaker 1: is Okay, if you guys want to open up that door. Well, congratulations,
Speaker 1: you're not always going to be in power. And then
Speaker 1: if a Republican comes in after Biden will congratulations, Biden
Speaker 1: will spend his eighties in jail, and and that's just
Speaker 1: then we'll basically be of an Ana Republic. So I
Speaker 1: really hope that if Trump does not, you know, pull
Speaker 1: off this second term somehow, that they don't go that route,
Speaker 1: because it would set us down a pass that would
Speaker 1: be deeply, deeply dangerous. If Joe Biden wins Dave and
Speaker 1: he's elected, do you see him serving out his full term? No? God, no,
Speaker 1: I mean everyone knows that. You know, It's like this
Speaker 1: guy's got dementia. We all know it. I keep saying,
Speaker 1: the scandal is a non scandal. The scandal is that
Speaker 1: everyone knows something's wrong with him. He can barely read
Speaker 1: a teleprompter. They're using him as a puppet basically. You know,
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi's talking about the twenty fifth Amendment to basically
Speaker 1: get rid of him and install Kamala. And the real
Speaker 1: sickness about that will be not only did they use
Speaker 1: this guy, not only did they use them, but nobody
Speaker 1: talked about it. Aren't you supposed to care about this,
Speaker 1: like all of these people that are supporting him that
Speaker 1: knows something wrong, like Barack Obama must know something's wrong
Speaker 1: with Biden at this point watch videos of Biden from
Speaker 1: five years ago to now. It is it is very
Speaker 1: obvious in his speech patterns, the mumbling, the fumbling, and
Speaker 1: the rest of it that something's not there. On top
Speaker 1: of the fact that he just broke his foot, he
Speaker 1: has a cold last week. It's like they're going to
Speaker 1: try to drag him out. But Kamala Harris, let's not
Speaker 1: forget Kamala Harris was pulling at zero amongst her own
Speaker 1: party when she dropped out. So all of these people,
Speaker 1: these eighty million people supposedly voted for Biden, they're going
Speaker 1: to end up with a lady who was pulling zero
Speaker 1: within their own party. Something doesn't seem right about that.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you can say that, Dave,
Speaker 1: because if you do, that's misogynistic. Oh well, I mean
Speaker 1: it goes without saying that I'm a misogyn has been right,
Speaker 1: And uh, what's the media game here? Because Biden is
Speaker 1: not good television. Trump's good TV. Biden he's not very
Speaker 1: entertaining for for the news media, like what do they
Speaker 1: shift to? They can't continue covering politics the way they've
Speaker 1: been covering it, can't they? Because if if Biden is
Speaker 1: the president, he's pretty boring. Well that's the thing. You
Speaker 1: can't even see the way they're shifting right now, where
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, he's been the quote unquote president elect
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks now, and where are the
Speaker 1: any critical pieces about him or the administration? Everything is
Speaker 1: a fluff piece. Everything is Oh, he brought in Pete
Speaker 1: Boodage as transportation sectre terry, and he's gays and it wonderful.
Speaker 1: None of it, None of it feels real because it's like, man,
Speaker 1: you guys look for any excuse for four years to
Speaker 1: destroy the president. Now you have your guy in and
Speaker 1: you're just gonna puff them up the whole time. But
Speaker 1: I think you're right, Trump, whatever Trump does, will still
Speaker 1: be the show. And maybe in a weird way in
Speaker 1: one we're in the sort of show must go on
Speaker 1: version of democracy where it's like, not really that important
Speaker 1: what happens, it's just what we're paying attention to that matters.
Speaker 1: And and in that regard, I think we'll still be
Speaker 1: paying attention to Trump. Dave, By any chance, did you
Speaker 1: get a chance to to watch the interview online with
Speaker 1: the Overstocked CEO Patrick Byrne. So I actually didn't see
Speaker 1: it yet, but I was when I was in d
Speaker 1: C last week. I actually pumped into him at the
Speaker 1: Trump Hotel and we chatted for about a half hour,
Speaker 1: So I know I know a bit about some of
Speaker 1: the stuff. They're interesting. What is like, what's your overall thoughts,
Speaker 1: even without watching it, Like, what's your overall thoughts about him?
Speaker 1: And maybe some of the things that he did talk about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so sort of on the blue Sky version of it,
Speaker 1: because I didn't see the full interview, so I don't
Speaker 1: want to get into like the nitty gritty of the details. Look,
Speaker 1: I happen to like Patrick Byrne. I think he's a
Speaker 1: patriot and a true American, and he's trying to do
Speaker 1: some work to uncover some stuff that the media will
Speaker 1: not touch. You know, this is one of these weird
Speaker 1: situations that I talked about all the time where it's like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, if the media would just do their job,
Speaker 1: if they would just report honestly, if they would look
Speaker 1: at both sides equally, if they would do journalism in essence,
Speaker 1: just do the thing that's in the very title of
Speaker 1: the job. Right, If you would just do that, well,
Speaker 1: then other people wouldn't have to be doing things. But
Speaker 1: instead you've your own failure has breeded a thing where
Speaker 1: you've got now got all these YouTubers who are sitting
Speaker 1: in their bedrooms doing a better job of journalism. Where
Speaker 1: you've got people like Patrick Byrne, who's a who's a
Speaker 1: businessman and uh, you know, ran overstock dot com and
Speaker 1: he's big on bitcoin everything else. He's putting in his
Speaker 1: own money and resources to uncover some election fraud stuff
Speaker 1: because nobody else will do it. So I I stand
Speaker 1: with anyone that's trying to uncover truth. Uh, and we'll
Speaker 1: see what happened. Well, Dave, thanks for coming on. And
Speaker 1: you've got you've got the book still the holiday Christmas
Speaker 1: is right around the corner here. What a great stocking stuffer, right,
Speaker 1: don't burn this book, great stocking stuffer. Yes, don't burn
Speaker 1: the stocking that this book is in. I should have
Speaker 1: said don't burn the door that the book is in,
Speaker 1: but don't burn the stock that's right. And the Reuben
Speaker 1: Report of course online. Thank you to appreciate it. Hey,
Speaker 1: one more thing, guys, Guests gone, You've got to consider
Speaker 1: changing your name because it's not going to be very
Speaker 1: safe here in l A for you soon enough, once
Speaker 1: the people wake up to this clown. Be sure to
Speaker 1: catch live editions of The Ben Miller Show weekdays at
Speaker 1: two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific,