WEBVTT - Swimming in the Swamp 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.360 Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:08.160 Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. If 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.480 you thought more hours a day dred minutes a week 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.120 was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of the 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:19.280 old republic a sole fashion of fairness. He treats crackheads 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:21.840 in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich pill 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:26.360 poppers in the penthouse, to clearinghouse of hot takes, break 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.200 free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:38.760 starts right now in the air everywhere eight days a week, 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.239 eight days a week, unless we're not here, then it's 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.080 not eight these a week. But four hours obviously not 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.639 enough on the overnight, So we welcome into the Friday 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:52.040 Podcast and we attempt every Friday on the fifth Hour 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.360 to have a conversation we do not do on the 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.520 overnight show. Interviews. We talked to crazy drunk people that 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.400 call the show up and lunatics we love. There are 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.360 family in the Mallard Militia. We don't do any interviews 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:07.240 because we'd have to tape those. I know some of 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:08.959 the other shows do that, and how boring is that? 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.399 Who wants to listen to a tape? Show on a 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.920 live radio program, but on the podcast format, of course, 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.520 we have the avenue of doing that, and so we 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.920 will welcome in in a few minutes. This is a 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:25.720 political hour, political hour on the fifth hour, but we 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:31.200 are joined yet again by David Gascon. Not Gascon. Gascon, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:36.840 you believe in fighting crime, unlike the other guy who's 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.199 got a very similar name to you. Yeah, I feel like, uh, yeah, 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.840 the pronunciation is one thing, and uh and the revolt 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:49.920 to the correct resistance is another. And uh. I feel 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.200 like where we're at right now is just luny tunes. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.520 But I digress as I get my hands ripe and ready, 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.600 because I am preparing this lovely Friday morning for Benny 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.360 versus a penny tonight. We got a lot of things 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.480 on the menu today. We do have a lot going 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.399 on here, and it's good. The year winding down and uh, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.040 you know the thing with your name and the new 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.320 district attorney in Los Angeles. It reminds me one of 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:18.240 my great, big, biggest supporters in Michigan was a guy 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.639 who had a goofy nickname and he used to call 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.440 the show. In fact, he was one of the originators 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.240 of the Mallard militia and the guy came up with 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.400 he stopped listening years ago because it's a long story, 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.519 it's a long, convoluted story. But he was a huge 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.880 fan and his nickname on air was Johanna John. Alright, 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.960 I remember him, Yeah, yeah, and it was a great nickname. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.840 It was fun, you know whatever. And then the whole 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.160 Middle Eastern terrorism thing took over. And then if you 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.480 remember about maybe twelve ten, twelve years ago, I forget 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.359 your time. All is just I don't even know. I 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.200 can't even tell you when, but it was within the 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.639 last fifteen years or so, and I think it was 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.320 closer to last ten. Um there was a terrorist that 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.880 was doing horrific things and they the media tagged him 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.040 Johadas John. So we had to change we had to 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.399 change the name of the harmless sports radio caller Johadas 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.920 John because some lunatic was going around, you know, chopping 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.480 people's heads off in the Middle East, and it happened 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:23.280 that the media dubbed him with the same name. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.519 I didn't think I would be telling that story today, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:30.160 but now and every time I see the name of 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.280 Gascone and it just is people pronounce it Gascon though 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.560 they don't. They don't pronounce it gascon. They pronounce it's 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.840 pronounce it guest gun. So anyway, this is a political hour. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.400 If you're not in the politics, I get it. And 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.040 it's fine. You don't have to listen, you know, give 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.680 you a mulligan. You can give us a mulligan if 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.680 you want. But I'm interested. There's a lot going on. 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.960 You don't have to just stick to sports on a podcast. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.960 And so this is guy we've had on before political 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.280 put it Dave Ruben. We're both big fans of Dave Reuben. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.680 He's got a big talk show about free speech, the 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.200 Reuben Report, he's got the he's all over social media. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:14.840 He's on the political shows on Fox News and news 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.800 Max and a bunch of the channels there. He's got 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.640 a book out, don't burn the book. And so we're 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.320 just gonna try to get the lay of the land 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.880 here at Guesscon from someone who's in in the ring, 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.800 fighting the political fight day after day, and this is 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.680 his world. I I just kind of peek in, you know, 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.360 I'm a sporty guy. I just I I'm into politics, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.120 but I'm not like hardcore into it. We're all maybe 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.320 I'll check it out after the show. I might see 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.440 what's what happened the last twenty four hours in the 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.440 political world. But this guy is right there getting his 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.400 hands dirty day after day. When you think about some 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:53.000 of the world's greatest creations, Um, it's one thing to 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.919 have something that really changes the world. But can you 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.800 think of an item just off the top of your 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.480 head that was created and you just thought that thing 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.599 is so stupid but so useful. I wish I would 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.559 have created that. Oh god, everything, I'm like, yeah, everything, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.720 anything I see said, why didn't I think of that? 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.279 That's how you know obviously. So it's so if I 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.239 were to rewind your life back ten years and I said, 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:23.000 hey Ben West of the four or five guests, g No. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.000 But I'm saying, if I was to rewind your life 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.640 back ten years and I said, hey Ben, you could 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:32.440 you can be really successful and really maximize your potential 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.559 and making money by creating a show that talked about 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.039 free speech, would you have been like, what the funk 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.680 are you talking about? Or would you would you thought 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.200 something must have happened in the world, Because that's in 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.240 the sense what Dave is doing right, He's talking acknowledging 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.680 about free speech, your ability as an individual to act 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:52.839 on your own accord and do the things that you 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:57.680 want to do. And nowadays it's almost polarizing for him 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.560 to say that because we need to con form, we 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.200 need to be in line. Right Yeah, yeah, well, I 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.880 mean listen, the thing about Ruben which is good, I mean, 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.599 thing I really like about him. He's very smooth on 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.760 his delivery and his approach. I mean, it's it's taking 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.839 the DMV handbook and making it seem simple. You know, 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.800 it's that's that's a skill. That's an art that not 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.960 many people have the ability to do. Anybody can talk 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:28.520 about sports or politics, but the communication aspect of it 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.000 is the part where he's just just wonderful at that, 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.479 in in the delivery, the whole thing. He's so good 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.000 at it. And someone that we work in the media business, 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.400 so you when you find people like that, you're like, well, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.760 this is great, this is this is wonderful. Let's give 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.920 me more, give me more, give me more. Now, keep 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.880 in mind, I mean, I know we're gonna get some people. 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.200 Oh I can't believe you had Ruben on. He's a hack, 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.920 you know, and they're gonna there's gonna be those people that, uh, 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.840 we gonna they just go go crazy over this kind 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.480 of stuff. But we're fans of him and we've had 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.719 him on before, and so I'm excited. I figure with 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:08.080 all that's going on, and the the inauguration day is January. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.280 It's a Wednesday, and so that's like pretty much a 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.200 month away. Right, We're looking about a month away from 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:19.640 having a president sworn in, unless that somehow gets delayed, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.600 which I don't think it will. But so anyway, why 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.280 don't we want to bring him in right now? Yes, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.240 all right, let's bring in now the host of the 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:31.120 Reuben Report. We just said, Dave Reuben joining us, And 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.160 so Dave, why don't we start with that. We'll piggyback 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.080 off what we were just talking about. Here. Is the 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:42.840 election over, Well, I'm not convinced that the election is 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.520 completely over. I mean, there are still a couple of 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.960 things working through the courts at the moment. And you know, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:53.520 Sidney Powell, who is a respected lawyer, it's harder for 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.760 me to believe that she has completely decided to self 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.520 emolate and destroy her personal life and career in the 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.720 name of this thing. Now, that doesn't mean, she really 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.080 has something and she's got a crazy case to prove 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.640 here that these dominion machines were switching votes and flipping 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.880 votes and eliminating votes on top of a couple of 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.520 the other things that are going on with mail and 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.000 ballance and everything else. But I will say this, and 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.080 this is why I'm sort of a little bullish on 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.760 the Trump situation at the moment, at least relative to 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.720 the mainstream people, which is that over the four years 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.440 that we had the Trump presidency, uh was with us, 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.320 he basically beat everybody every single time. So was he 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.320 not ready for the final boss of the video game? 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.360 Was he not ready knowing that they might try some 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.719 crazy stuff with voting machines and the rest of it. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.040 I suspect he's got something left in his pocket. But 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.120 maybe I'm wrong. And if I am wrong and against 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.520 to the end of it and the courts don't get 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.960 anywhere and bidens the president, I'm okay being in the 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.319 opposition that there, right. Yeah, And if you we've all 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:57.920 seen the video, So I don't know if we've all 0:08:57.920 --> 0:08:59.640 seen it, because I guess depending on where you get 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.040 your to you you haven't. As far as the election 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.520 and some of the stuff that went on there. Uh, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.200 is this every election? Is this unique? Or is this 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.920 I'm trying to wrap my mind about because I know 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.120 in the last twenty years, with these big presidential elections, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.160 there's always been something that people have complained about. Is 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.440 this just the way that elections are run or is 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:24.160 it extra extreme this year? Yeah, that's a million dollar question, 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.520 right because you know, we didn't have the internet the 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.240 way we have it now. We didn't have the ability 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:33.360 for videos to go viral, and for electors and people 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.560 that were watching the ballot boxes and the rest of it, 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.240 for them to be able to take videos on their phone. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.000 And now we see all these strange, shady things happening, 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.800 and you can see videos of people pressing different touch 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.520 screens where it appears mozart flipping. Look, every every election 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.240 in the history of the world beyond America has some 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.480 level of fraud. Obviously, there's no such thing as a 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.800 perfect system. Human meanings are not perfect. We cannot create 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.760 perfect systems, So you have to acknowledge that a certain 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.840 amount of fraud is built in. Is it possible as 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.360 we shift more to digital and more towards mail in 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:13.440 ballots that we're basically, uh, causing a breeding ground for 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.000 more and more fraud to take place. It seems like yes. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:18.959 And then when you compound it with the fact that 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.560 social media exists, so now we can all see it. 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.600 You know, it's one thing if there's a certain level 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.680 of fraud and we can't see it, But then you 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.360 just go on with your life. Now you start seeing 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.040 stuff and then you go, oh, wow, is this the 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.520 first time this has happened? Or am I just seeing 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.920 it for the first time. But I think the bigger 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.880 thing that that fits all of that is that we're 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.760 basically in a reality war, because depending on what news 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.000 you watch and who you follow on Twitter, you could 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.160 think that this thing was totally stolen or you could 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.960 think it's totally legit right now, and you'd both be 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.160 living on the same planet Earth, but you would both 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.920 be living in a very different, uh sense of reality. 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.360 It's the Twilight Zone, Dave. Everyone's got there all mentioned 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.120 in the Twilight somebody. As far as the just in general, 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:03.959 I mean, you cover this stuff all the time. You're 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.840 a political pun and as you dig uh, and so 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.280 if you look at the election objectively, it's such a 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.800 large country Democrats and Republicans can't agree about anything. So 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.000 if you were to say, let's have election reform, how 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:20.000 would you possibly get these sides to agree on anything. Yeah, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:24.400 that's the fundamental issue. These sides not only disagree on everything, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:29.800 but they have a very fundamentally um opposite view of 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.800 what America is. I mean, trying to write my mind 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.040 about it. I mean, he's gonna hire a bunch of 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.440 Google and Facebook people for different roles there. What do 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.439 you think that's all about. Oh yeah, they're doing it already. 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.079 They've they've announced they've got a whole bunch of Facebook 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.200 com people and Google Comms people that they're already bringing 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:50.600 into the administration. So one of the irty is that Trump, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.760 in many ways was the last thing fighting big tech. 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.480 In other words, big tech knew they couldn't go too 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.640 overboard with Fannings and the rest of it because Trump 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.760 was there and maybe he was going to do something 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.200 with an executive action and start taking legal action and 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:07.600 try to break them up in the rest of it. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.640 If Trump's gone, well, congratulations, You've got the political elite 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.760 and the and the tech elite all on the same side. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.320 And why would they allow for dissenting voices. Why would 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.560 they allow people they don't like and deem scary and 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.760 who are maybe against lockdowns or whatever it might be. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.480 Why would they let them on their platforms if they've 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.760 run around and labeled all these people nachies and biggots 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.000 and the rest of it. So I think if you 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:37.360 thought was weird, is going to just be completely bananas. 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.000 Do you believe that Donald Trump will be banned from 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.079 Twitter once he's no longer president? Are they going to 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.840 kick him off there? I think it's possible, but you know, 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:47.600 it's one of those things where you go ahead and 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.800 do that and then you're pulling like an obi wan. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.280 You know, if you strike me down, I'll become more powerful, 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.360 then you can possibly imagine. So I think they'd have 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.080 to be careful what they wish for um, but I 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.400 wouldn't put any anything past them. I mean, if they 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:05.040 really want to make it seem like this, this movement, 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.480 whatever you want to call it, that this thing is 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.760 radical and should not be tolerated and should not be 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.240 mainstreamed or normalized, which is really what they wanted all along, 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.640 well then you would go ahead and get rid of Trump. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.719 But I don't think that weakened him. I think it 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.680 probably strengthened him, Dave. You know, there's certain thoughts that 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.480 I know, Ben and I have talked about when you 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.880 arrive in certain cities like the Big Apple and you 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:28.960 get to New York or are you gonna go to Boston. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.760 There's just that that fuel and that energy. Even going 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.960 to Sense City is different because you see those lights 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.720 from the luxur l and they shoot up and you 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.760 get that that rush of let's go gamble, let's go party. 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:41.880 And New York's got that different beasts as well. But 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.719 you were in DC recently, just a few weeks ago, 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.640 just a week ago. Um, what was your feeling like 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.439 when you landed? And how is the overall trip? Give 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.120 us the skinny on it. Yeah. Well, first, I gotta 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.360 say I love d C. I mean, you know, for 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.000 all the complaining that anyone can do about politics, I 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.239 love the history of this country. I love those monuments. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.880 I love going to the museums. I love the learning 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.199 about our founders and all of that stuff. I've been 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.600 there dozens and dozens of time. At times it never 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.040 gets old to me. But I gotta tell you this time, 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.720 it was seriously depressing. I mean, there was nobody out 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.240 on the streets. I posted a periscope video just walking 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:24.320 around the streets, and quite literally all I saw were 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.400 homeless people. That's it. I mean, I actually, at one 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.280 point I did see three guys. Turns out that they 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.480 were fans of mine, so that so that was fun. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.280 But there were just no people out there. There's no tourists. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.120 Everything's closed. You know. At one point I was trying 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.000 to find something for lunch. Couldn't even find a place 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:44.120 that was open. And you know that that we've allowed 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:50.240 our cities to become waste lands in essence is very dangerous. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:55.200 It's very scary, and unfortunately, I don't think it's going away. Well, 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.200 and then also I saw you, uh I think you 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.960 put posted this. You were talking about cal Fornia. Obviously, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.280 Are you leaving California like everyone else they were? You 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.920 gonna stay in California? Are You're gonna head to Nashville 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.560 or Austin or somewhere else? Well, for the record, if 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.600 I if I do leave, I sense I'm more of 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.000 a Florida guy. I'm more of a beach guy than 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.360 a than a Texas guy. But I'm trying to fight 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.440 this thing from here. You know, if if we're really 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.360 at the point where nobody can live in a state 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.320 that they don't fully agree with their politics, and then 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.120 then in many ways the American experiment has failed. And 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.160 I'm not quite there yet. So I'm willing to pay 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.680 the high taxes for a little bit longer, but you know, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.880 at some point the rubber meets the road. At the 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.560 very least to Dave, because I can't defend Ben in 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:41.360 this capacity, but at least in your downtime you know 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.000 how to cook a steak. Vans not doing it so much, 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:49.240 but at least you're doing it. Yeah, he loves let 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.280 me tell you, Dave. The other Dave here, Guscan loves 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.400 when you post food pictures. That is you know, you 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.400 think you're known as the political guy, but when you 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.560 post food pictures, that is what he really that resonates 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.200 with him. So listen, I people love the food pictures. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:05.920 And you know, I got a I got a pretty 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.200 sweet built in grill here, and I'm doing all kinds 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.600 of you know, bone in ribs and try tips and 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.480 all kinds of all kinds of fun stuff. And you know, 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.920 partly what I've been saying all along, during lockdown is 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.280 some people went into lockdown and they're coming out even 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.440 though we're not quite out of it, they're coming out worse. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.560 You know, they gained weight, they just were depressed. They 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.280 play video games and watched port all day. Or you 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.280 could come out of lockdown and be a little bit better. 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.720 Maybe maybe you learn to cook, or you learn to 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:36.480 play an instrument, or you started exercising more of the 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.800 rest of it. I've tried to mostly be on the 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.960 ladder side of that, so people do love the food 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.320 picks and hopefully I've got a couple other people doing 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.600 some of that stuff to themselves. Well, let see, Dave. 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.800 The backstory with all this is that Ben had a 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:53.440 birthday here and uh, I was back in April. It 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.560 was back in April, and I bought the dude a 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:02.359 Tomahawks steak nicely, nicely rap ready for for a barbecue, 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.159 and and he promised me that he would eventually barbecue 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.920 when the weather appropriated it. Um. We live in southern California, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.080 so it should have been at any time. And to 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.920 this day, to this day, it's got freezer burns on it. No, 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.440 just not have I'm waiting. I'm waiting for the perfect 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.119 moment here to cook the steak. The steak isn't a 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:25.600 climate control the freezer. It's going to be fine. Oh listen, 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.520 If that thing has freezer burnt on it, that is 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.960 a damn shame because there's not been better than a good, 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:35.320 better than a good all right? Yuh? And now, David, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.040 as far as the I would go back to California, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.280 I'm obsessed here. I I am so frustrated with the 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.119 politics in California, coming from the governor on down. And 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.680 we do I do a sports radio show. We do 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:49.879 sports radio during the week, and it's you know, I 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.200 know this is a little microcosm of just the world, 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.439 but you watch different games in like Florida, or there 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.160 was a Monday night game in Cleveland this week where 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.400 they actually had fans, and then you've got in California. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.399 The forty Niners have to leave the state because of 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.800 some politicians in in that area and you know, no 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.879 fans allowed. It's it's just so crazy how they operate here. 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.879 And the governor with the whole French laundry thing. Do 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.119 you think there's a chance here that people might actually 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.400 wake up in California? The people that are left here 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.320 and say what are we doing and let's change some 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.280 of these politicians around. You know, one of the strange 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.200 things about California, and I moved here after living in 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.200 New York my whole life is that if you talk 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.920 to anybody in California, they tell you that the whole 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.920 place is mismanaged. They're like, the taxes are high, the 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.920 roads suck a lot of homeless people, I'm seeing more 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.359 drug use in my community, schools are terrible, blah blah blah. 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.280 And yet they seem unable to connect that to the 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.679 fact that they always vote Democrat and that work Democrat 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.080 run state. So you know, you'll see something like people 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.320 will be saying, Okay, well California, the education system here 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.200 is terrible, and then they'll be blaming Trump or blaming 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.840 the Republicans, and it's like, no, they don't have any 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.920 thing to do with any of this. So so somehow 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.920 making the connection between oh, I vote for high tax 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:11.480 people that then put in policies that destroy small businesses, 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.480 like making that connection seems very hard for California. But 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.480 I will say this, I've met a ton of people 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.200 over the last few months who are a political who 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.600 you know, maybe ran a business or a restaurant, whatever 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:27.080 it is, and that are suddenly going, WHOA, I didn't 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.399 even realize what I was voting for. So I do 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.399 think there's an awakening. And you know, I've been pushing 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.480 the recall Gavin knew something. We need three thousand signatures 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:39.359 because that guy's an absolute nightmare. Spent fifteen thousand dollars 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:44.400 on booze alone at that dinner at French Laundry, David, 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:48.600 is there any kind of any kind of emails, direct messages, 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.520 any kind of text messages that you get that you think, hey, 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.680 well this is we can take a pragmatic approach to 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.640 this in California and something that's actually constructive and tangible, 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.960 regardless of Gavi Knewsome's recall or not. But there's some 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.040 wild things that are going on here, especially here in 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.359 Los Angeles with a new district attorney with no relation 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.159 to me. But is there a right right right? You're 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.119 sharing the last name of the new guy and up, 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.280 I hope you're not related to them. No, no, But 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.240 is there anything that you get that you've received from 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.680 individuals that you say, like, there's actually something here that 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.720 we can we can show off the bone a little 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.800 bit and work on I think the main thing is 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.760 that it's up to you. You know. I think a 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.000 lot of people think that somehow they're going to vote 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.040 in somebody that's going to save them, or the cavalry 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.320 is just going to show up one day and turn 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.399 this all around. But the simple truth is this is 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.240 on us. So every time I see someone that owns 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:45.680 a restaurant, fight back, and we're seeing this more and more. 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.320 Every time I see someone just freaking walking down the 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.880