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Speaker 1: A new bi weekly show on the Fish Stripes podcast

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Speaker 1: starring Isaaca Zoot and Kevin Barrah. Fish Stripes Unfiltered starts

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Episode five of Fish Stripes Unfiltered already down five episodes

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Speaker 2: with my guy Isaacazot's just me and him today, Isaac,

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Speaker 2: how are you? Man? World Series is over? So now

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Speaker 2: it's really the off season and we do have a

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Speaker 2: lot to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's it was a fun World Series for sure.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a couple you know, blouts in there

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Speaker 3: that Major League Baseball Ball we didn't want. But it's

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Speaker 3: definitely a disheartening reality that here we are early November,

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Speaker 3: no more baseball, So we'll have to get used to

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Speaker 3: this just the off season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, make sure to subscribe on YouTube and follow us

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Speaker 2: to that. There. Let's talk about the World Series. The

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Speaker 2: Houston Astros did lose to the Atlanta Braves in the

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Speaker 2: six game series. That last game, I guess was the

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Speaker 2: highlight of that whole series. Where Max Freedo was Everyone

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Speaker 2: thought he would just get crushed because his postseason hasn't

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Speaker 2: been too good lately, and now he shut out the

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Speaker 2: the Houston Astros. So what were your thoughts on that

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Speaker 2: Game seven, Game six, and I guess the whole world series.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Game six was just, you know, disappointing for me.

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Speaker 3: I went out to try and watch it and hoping

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Speaker 3: that they'd forced Game seven the Astros would, but it

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Speaker 3: didn't happen that way. They got ahead early with Solaer

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Speaker 3: spectacular for him to come back to the way he

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Speaker 3: for the better part of two winning. So I think

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Speaker 3: that was really awesome. But overall it was a decent

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think what really, look I guess stuck

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Speaker 2: out to me was all these outfielders that the Braves

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Speaker 2: I'm missing Jock Peterson who who was also had a

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Speaker 2: pretty good postseason. So I guess that's something else we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, it was a it was like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, well, I think you said up perfectly

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Speaker 3: Well, with a team like Miami, you never want to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he definitely has the positional versatility to

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Speaker 2: you know, Chris Taylor and uh, Chris Brian, those would

430
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Speaker 2: be I guess the two biggest options for Miami at.

431
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Speaker 3: Least, I mean, yeah, but I don't think you can

432
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Speaker 3: even compare Chris Taylor to the type of you know,

433
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 3: consistent production that Chris Bryant would bring you. Taylor just

434
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Speaker 3: he's it's probably more like you know, you've seen it,

435
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Speaker 3: more of it, just because of the team he's been

436
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Speaker 3: on and the amount of times he's been in the

437
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Speaker 3: postseason probably every year of his career. So that, yeah,

438
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Speaker 3: looks good. But if you can have a guy who

439
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Speaker 3: in his down year hits twenty five home runs and

440
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Speaker 3: as one hundred and twenty three weighted runs created, you

441
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Speaker 3: go after Chris Bryan that would be a maybe a

442
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Speaker 3: pipe dream, but I think that's someone that it's a

443
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Speaker 3: name that people might will come to see.

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially with all the positions that he plays.

445
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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Miami needs a centerfielder. He's not the

446
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 2: best center fielder out there on the market for sure,

447
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: but it's an option. Maybe even put de la Cruz

448
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 2: in the center field. Maybe you bring back Adam Duvall

449
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 2: and you put him at centerfielder. You got one of

450
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: these outfielders that we'll get into that opted out of

451
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Speaker 2: their contracts for got declined the mutual option, I'm pretty sure,

452
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 2: and they could go play center field and you put

453
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Speaker 2: Chris Brant left field, and you have a Houston right

454
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Speaker 2: or maybe they get rid of Brian Anderson or and

455
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: Chris Brian fits right at third base. So there's a

456
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Speaker 2: lot where you could go with Chris Bryan here. I

457
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: think the only thing I'll hold them back is the money.

458
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Speaker 2: And I wanted to get into utility guys because I

459
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Speaker 2: know we've been talking about Chris Taylor and Chris Bryan.

460
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Speaker 2: Besides Chris Taylor, what are some other options that the

461
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Speaker 2: Models could go out with the utility role.

462
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Speaker 3: Oh, I know where you're going with this. I know

463
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 3: you want your lary Garcia guy. That's the utility one.

464
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Speaker 2: I have two, but Liarly was one.

465
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Speaker 3: Well aside from him. I mean, I think the Marlins

466
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Speaker 3: have one of the best utility guys in baseball. If

467
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Speaker 3: Miguel Rojas isn't the starter next year, if they for

468
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Speaker 3: some reason get one of these stud shortstops that are

469
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Speaker 3: free agents. I think that's something that Keith Law mentioned

470
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Speaker 3: that now is the time, and Rojas would be the

471
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Speaker 3: perfect He can play first base really well, every and

472
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Speaker 3: field position really well. Hell, if you put him in

473
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Speaker 3: left field, he could probably play pretty well. So I

474
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Speaker 3: think Rojas would be one of those guys that no

475
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Speaker 3: one really talks about to be a great utility one.

476
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 3: And he can even start three to four times a

477
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Speaker 3: week against letsis, So that's someone I would consider. And

478
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Speaker 3: if John Birdie is healthy, I don't know how he's

479
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 3: doing with his concussion. I think we were waiting updates

480
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Speaker 3: on that, but he's also someone that I would like

481
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Speaker 3: to see kind of go into that role as well.

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, as you know, I have my guy Luis Garcia,

483
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: who have been hyping up as a good option for

484
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Speaker 2: the Marlins. Not the best one, but an option that

485
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Speaker 2: they could go with. Very good season at least in

486
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Speaker 2: my opinion too sixty seven batting average. He had one

487
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 2: hundred one to eleven hits, five homers, fifty four RBIs,

488
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: three thirty five OVP seven eleven ops. And he plays

489
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Speaker 2: second base, third base, shortstop, left, center, and right So

490
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 2: it's a big variety of positions that you could just

491
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Speaker 2: throw him in there pretty much anywhere but first in

492
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 2: the pitching position obviously can catch her, but it makes

493
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Speaker 2: a lot of sense. And the other name I have

494
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: is Josh Harrison, who who makes a lot of sense

495
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: as well. He plays a good variety of positions pretty

496
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Speaker 2: much the same ones as Larry he plays. Don't even

497
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: have it right now, but he had in five hundred

498
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: five at bats, fifty eight runs, one hundred and forty

499
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: one hits, run, eight himmers, sixty RBIs. He had a

500
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 2: better season than Leary, and he did get traded midway

501
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: when he was with the Nationals. Two seventy nine batting

502
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 2: average seven to forty one ops. Makes a lot of sense,

503
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: And I do want to compare these guys to guys

504
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: like John Birdie, who, as we know, I guess was

505
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: the utility guy from Miami last season, playing outfield pretty

506
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: much all the infield spots. You had two hundred and

507
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: thirty three at bats, forty nine hits, four homers, nineteen RBIs,

508
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: two ten batting average six to twenty four ops. Obviously,

509
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: his season got cut short for him his concussion, as

510
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: we don't know, still waiting for that. So yeah, I

511
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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if you want to, you know,

512
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Speaker 2: go into any of the guys that I mentioned or

513
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Speaker 2: I came out.

514
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think Josh Harrison just provides some flair

515
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 3: that the team kind of lacks. We saw a lot

516
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Speaker 3: of him when he was with Washington this year, and

517
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Speaker 3: you know, he's he's not the player he was with

518
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh obviously anymore. But he's a guy that he's up

519
00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: with the bat in the ball and he's got a

520
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: decent swinging, He's got a little bit of speed. He

521
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: can play all the infield positions, probably play some outfield.

522
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Speaker 3: So I think he's someone that you know, they don't

523
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Speaker 3: get Alui Garcia or you know, Birdie is in one

524
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Speaker 3: hundred percent. I think Josh Harrison makes some sense.

525
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wanted to get into outfield. We talked

526
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Speaker 2: about Brian Reynolds. Seems unlikely now with the high price

527
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: that that Pittsburgh gave Seattle, so imagine what Pittsburgh gave

528
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Speaker 2: Miami as a high price. I want to go into

529
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Speaker 2: a couple guys that opted out or their contracts got

530
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: declined for next season. And I do want you to

531
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Speaker 2: go a little bit through the Adam Duval mutual stuff.

532
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: So Nick Caste, obviously I think this one was expected,

533
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: opting out of the two years left in his deal.

534
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Speaker 2: Adam Duval of Visa Garcia, Kevin pilar Ian Desmond, who

535
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Speaker 2: I don't even want the Miami offense, but and then

536
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: the declient players were Andrew Mcutchen and a dubal ho Era.

537
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: I guess we could go through every guy here since

538
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: we have time. Nick Costello starting with him first. Obviously,

539
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: he's a big time player. He's a big fish for

540
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: the Marlins. Marlins have shown interesting looks, like from Craignish

541
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Speaker 2: some other reporters. What would Nick Casions bring to Miami

542
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: besides seats, play fiens in the seats and for sure

543
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: a better offense.

544
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, a local guy, a big name, great with Detroit

545
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: and he had that crazy season where he had like

546
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 3: fifty eight doubles. He's just I think Aeron I'm sorry,

547
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: don't know what he's pronouncing it right, He's said it perfectly.

548
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: He's one of the best peer hitters in all of baseball.

549
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: Is he gonna hit forty home runs in Lone Debo Park?

550
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: Probably not, but he will give you those great at

551
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 3: bats and he's just one of the better offensive players

552
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: in all of baseline. I know some of the stats

553
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: away from Great American Ballpark might scare some teams away.

554
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 3: To me, I think just those home runs turn into

555
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: extra base hits, you know. So I think he's someone

556
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: that would really make a lot of sense here, and

557
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: it would be a lot. He opted out of two years,

558
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 3: thirty four million remaining, so that's seventeen annually. So whatever

559
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 3: you know, Miami. If Miami gets him, he didn't have

560
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Speaker 3: to pay him, I would say north of twenty three

561
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: for close it would be maybe a four year, hundred

562
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: million dollars deal.

563
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Us, first of all, please come to Miami. We

564
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: desperately need you. Now, what would the outfield look like

565
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: because he I don't know how many games he played

566
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 2: in center field, but I don't think he'd be the

567
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: guy we would put in centerfield at all.

568
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Speaker 3: Be in center field. He'd be in left, or he

569
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: can play a little infield as well. You can play third,

570
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: but I think they'd put him in left and whatever

571
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: center field or the Marls rollout will be in center

572
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: field obviously, and you have Hasis and right. So I

573
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Speaker 3: think Nick Castillanos, you get Chris Bryant, put him at third,

574
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 3: and you're looking good. You can even play around with

575
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 3: one of them playing a bad center field and have

576
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Speaker 3: Brian Anderson in right field and have Chris Brian at third,

577
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: like you can just you can do some things here.

578
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: That's been something we that. I think I've been hearing

579
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: a lot more of Brian Anderson. Put him at put

580
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: him at a right field again. But then you have

581
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: Hazy Sanchez and maybe he could go to centerfield and

582
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: maybe he benefits from that. Obviously, I don't think he's

583
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: played any barely any center field, at least in the minors,

584
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: in in majors, but something to try out. Maybe your

585
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: outfield looks casteanos Bryant and Jay Zusanchez. Uh, And I

586
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: know what Glenn said with Jazz at center field, tried

587
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: out maybe. I mean, he he's been a little bit

588
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: struggling at least in shortstop, so maybe said maybe move

589
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: him to the center field spot. A lot of ways

590
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: you could go defensively with no offensively this guy. Uh,

591
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: he's been one of the most consistent guys on that

592
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: Reds team. RBI machine low walk grade. I'm pretty sure. Uh,

593
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: the Homers, we've obviously seen that this guy has a

594
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: lot of power. So let's go to Duval. Uh, go

595
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: a little bit through what happened today with Adam Duval

596
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: if you could, I guess, go go into a more

597
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: analytics side, I guess in a way.

598
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 3: With yeah, before before we go into Duval. I wanted

599
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: to mention just the Jazz center field thing, I you know,

600
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: like it's funny. I had never heard that as an

601
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: Obi was the first time. Yeah, I had never thought

602
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: of it as an option either. He was just you know,

603
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: shorts out. Dere Jeter hand selected this player from Arizona.

604
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: It was no one else. He saw him at the

605
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: Arizona Fall League. He liked him, he chose him. He

606
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: told his people go acquire him. It took Zach Gallen.

607
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: But it looks like the Marlins or end up you know,

608
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: at least breaking even or that trade. So with Jazz,

609
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: he has by far the speed to do it. I

610
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: don't know if he's got the arm behind him, but

611
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: I think that's something It would open up some infield

612
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: spots because you can keep Rojas at short. I don't

613
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: know if Castillianos, if you want to try him at second.

614
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: I don't think this is in Diamond Dynasty over here,

615
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 3: but it'd be interesting to see because you know, Roles

616
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: can play second, and the Marlins do go after one

617
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: of these shortstops there you go, yeah, Castianos and left.

618
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: So I think that just like sort of solves more

619
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: holes if you were to do that, but I don't

620
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: know if that's I think Jazz has shown like tremendous

621
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: skill at second base. I saw him in spring training, I

622
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: saw him all year long at second base. He made

623
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: some really bad errors, but at the same time he

624
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: also made some pretty spectacular plays.

625
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: So the Marlins, the Marlins do have a San Diez.

626
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: You know, let's get in at second there.

627
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: I don't want Jazz to Blockysan's path to greatness, but yeah,

628
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: as I think they're gonna, I don't think they're gonna

629
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: ask him to do that. The Padres did ask Tatis

630
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: to move to centerfield, and he did play some centerfield.

631
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: He wasn't phenomenal out there, but he did it. So

632
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: you know, hey, if the Padres can ask Fernando Tattis

633
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: Junior to go to centerfield, I think Jazz can. They might.

634
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: I'm very curious to see if they if they asked

635
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: Jazz to do that.

636
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: Let's go into Duvall here. What went down today, Isaac

637
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: with the contract with Duvall and what it how it

638
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: deffects Tomorrowlan's big time.

639
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: To be honest, this trade was unconstitutional. This it was

640
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: blasphemous on I think Craig said it perfectly. I will

641
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: read out the tweet. Miami had complete control over this player. Tender,

642
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: non tender, extend, trader, you do whatever you want, but

643
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: their top choice. It's a dump him for a guy

644
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: who had the potential to be a backup catcher in

645
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: Alex Jackson. Alex Jackson. Jackson has shown nothing with the

646
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: bat at all. He's actually shown horrendous things with the bats,

647
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: striking out in almost fifty percent of his at bats

648
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: at the big league level. And you traded him. Not

649
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: only did you trade him away, you traded him to

650
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: a division rival you're gonna have to deal with for

651
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: the next year. At least now won the World Series

652
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: as well. We have to keep that won the World Series.

653
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 3: That's the trade. It's on the street now. And he's

654
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: not only just a great bat, he's a great defender

655
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: in right field as well. Glenn mentioned it, he had

656
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: him and I had no idea how good defensively this

657
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: player was until we just saw him, not even just

658
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: making Spectacula plays or all the assists that he had,

659
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: because he had a lot of assists, but just cutting

660
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: balls off in the corner, cutting balls off in the

661
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: right center field gap here. He's a phenomenal job playing

662
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: right field and just dropping thirty eight home runs the

663
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: way he did pretty easily, and just being so clutch

664
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: at times. It was, Wow, that's going to go down

665
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: as a really bad one to me. It was unconstitutional

666
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: that trade.

667
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now I think he goes into arbitration I

668
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: found correct. So the Braiders are gonna have a good

669
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: shot at keeping this guy. And then I guess it

670
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: opens the door to all the other guys that they

671
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: brought in from the trade deadline along with Duval. They'll

672
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: maybe keep one more to have a fourth outfielder since

673
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: I guess they'll put Duval in the outfield along with

674
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: Ronald Lacuna because we don't know how long the Ozuna

675
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: suspension could be if he gets suspended. So what does

676
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: Duval bring to Miami. I mean, we already sign in

677
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: the first half, but this could be an option at

678
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: center field for the Marlands for sure.

679
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: He brings just character, experience, power, and he's a World

680
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: Series champion, so I think he brings he checks all

681
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: the boxes you said the Braves can tender him. They

682
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 3: have till December two to tender him a contract. He's

683
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 3: arbitration eligible, so we'll have to see what they end

684
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: up doing. I guess it would have to be a trade.

685
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: But I don't see the Braves trading him back to Miami,

686
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: and I don't I don't see the Braves non tendering

687
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: him again. They made that mistake last year. They just

688
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: non tendered him, which made him available for Miami. And

689
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: so we'll see what the Braves do. The balls on

690
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: their court. But if he were somehow to come back

691
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: to Miami, I think it would make all the sense

692
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: in the world.

693
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and something you mentioned on the live streams, recently

694
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: single handedly won games from Miami single la the La game,

695
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: I think two of the games sing.

696
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: Two they won three to two. He had the three

697
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: run home run, and he threw out movie bets at

698
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: the play.

699
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: And he had so many other games that we could

700
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: obviously mention there are a lot of them. He really

701
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: carried the load for the team, at at least in

702
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: the first half of the season. Obviously got traded. Alex Jackson. Man,

703
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: this guy's been a disappointment. We could get a little

704
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: bit in him, but it's it's been horrible. There's another

705
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: way to say it. The only positive has been that

706
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: the best month that Sandy pitched, he was the catcher

707
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: most of the time. He's been decent defensively, but the

708
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: sadsad I'd rather have a Peyton Henry and a Nick

709
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: ford As who showed a lot more promise. But something

710
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: that we've noticed that's been the trend is Miami uses

711
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: these guys until they have little to no value is

712
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: san Diez was traded for Christian Yealich. Lewis Brinson was

713
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: traded for Christian Yelich. He's ZUSLIZARDI you mentioned it. He's

714
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: gonna get all the possibilities in the world because Starlin

715
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: Marte was the guy they traded for him, and they

716
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: can't they they have to try to not lose this trade.

717
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: So that's probably what they're gonna do. With Alex Jackson.

718
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: He will not be the starting catcher for sure, but

719
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 2: they'll give him a lot of chances as a backup,

720
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: and I think he will be a backup at the

721
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: end of the day.

722
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: With Jackson, it was just some really really ugly numbers. Unfortunately.

723
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: The one thing that did stand out to me, you know,

724
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: being on the field a few games, was the raw

725
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: power he has it's tremendous. I think it's by far

726
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: surpasses anyone on the team. He was reaching the concession

727
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: stands with ease. He was going center field, upper deck,

728
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: and so he does have the raw power. But if

729
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: you just look at his career stats. In his career,

730
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: he's got one hundred and fifty one at bats, he

731
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: struck out in eighty two of them. He struck out

732
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 3: in more than fifty percent of his set bats. That

733
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: is some Sean Reynolds Monte Harrison type numbers, and those

734
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: guys are not going to be in the big league.

735
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: So it's a shame. I don't know what they were

736
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: thinking of this stra because even before he came to

737
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: Miami and struggled, he didn't really show anything with Atlanta

738
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: the last two years. I'll be a very small sample size,

739
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: but he just didn't show anything. He homed for the

740
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: first time this year, so yeah, we're going to be

741
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: scratching our heads at this one for a long time.

742
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: And he somehow did get a World Series SHREA with

743
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braves for playing ten games on that team.

744
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: What else Eli actually can like come and join on

745
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: this really quid. I'm a little excuse my ignorance. I'm confused.

746
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: I still, yeah, I didn't know if you had you

747
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: had to be on the team at one point for

748
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: a World Series drink. Even if you pinch around on

749
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: opening day and you never play for that team again,

750
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: you still get a word.

751
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: Oh nice to join you guys.

752
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

753
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, honestly, I mean, it's up to the team's

754
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: discretion to determine they don't. They're not mandated to give

755
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: rings to every single guy that appeared in the game,

756
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: especially if I mean we'll use Ozuna for example. I mean,

757
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: if he left the team on these very ugly terms

758
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 4: for the season, they put him on the restricted list,

759
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 4: and when he was healthy they don't feel he contributed

760
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: in a positive way.

761
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: They don't.

762
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 4: They're not mandated to give him a ring. But it's

763
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: it's a really gray area. It's up to, you know,

764
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: leadership to decide it. And of course there's a whole

765
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 4: lot of people that don't play for the team that

766
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 4: they feel are very valued within the organization. Right, So

767
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: there's only a finite number of rings. I guess it

768
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: depends on ownership how many rings you want to make maybe,

769
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: but I imagine there's some sort of limit, and they pick

770
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: and choose the people that mean the most, even if

771
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: they're players or not. But it's a gray area.

772
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: It's really subjective, right, And if I'm not mistaken, I

773
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: believe there's like different rings for different players. I feel

774
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: like you guys like Freddy Freeman will get like the

775
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: A rings. I think David Samson was talking about this

776
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: when the Marlins wont it, how there's like A rings

777
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: and there's B rings and some players actually like file

778
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: grievances based on like the ring that they got. Is

779
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: that true?

780
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: True?

781
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: Still or no?

782
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 4: I really can't speak much to that. I imagine it does

783
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: vary a little bit from team to team that, especially

784
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: this day and age, there's this level of customization. There

785
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: might be more than just A and B. It might

786
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: be A, B and C and D, and there might

787
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 4: be a whole bunch of tiers of this because the

788
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: technology to customize this stuff and do it quickly. So

789
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: that's that's interesting though, that's I imagine that does create

790
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 4: a little bit of trauma, even when everybody's must be

791
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 4: happy about.

792
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: It, and in my opinion, like unnecessary draw because obviously,

793
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 3: like the A ring is gonna be a show we's

794
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: gonna have more diamonds. Is gonna be all that, But like,

795
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: you know what if the Marlins had one, for example,

796
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: you give Sandy an a ring, what are you gonna

797
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: give like Cody potit the b ring.

798
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: So it's just.

799
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: It's very It's I don't think you'd want that situation.

800
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: To me, it should have a million A rings if

801
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: you have to. You're a billion dollar organization. I think

802
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: you can afford all the A rings.

803
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: And Happy birthday to Eli. Happy birthday Thursday. Uh, it's

804
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: his birthday today, So happy birthday, Eli, Thank you.

805
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: November fourth, Happy birthday to our boss, to our our man,

806
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: our dad, thank you so much for making all this brother.

807
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the highlights of this entire day, just

808
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: behind the scenes on this path day, but this is

809
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: one of the highlights for sure. Thank you guys.

810
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's uh, let's continue have visa Garcia. I think

811
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: he opted out of the contract or the decline. Uh,

812
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: either way, he's a free agent. Your thoughts on him.

813
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: I know he was an option at some point when

814
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: the Cory Dickerson signing, when he was for sure, I

815
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: guess in that seen price ranges, Dickerson not something MINDMI

816
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: visits now and maybe they go for him in the

817
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: Castanos probably probably not.

818
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: I think Eli said it, well, it's just if they're

819
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: going to go after an outfielder, I think they should

820
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: they should reach a little higher than him. He is

821
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: a free agent. He did have a decent year this year.

822
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: He was a three win player and he slugged almost

823
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: five hundred above average player. But I you know, I

824
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: think he just crushes lefties a lot more than in

825
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: that ballpark of Milwaukee. The numbers were probably inflated at

826
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 3: TAD So I don't know if that's the first guy,

827
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: but he's definitely an option, you know, if he can

828
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: start maybe eighty ninety games and come off the bench.

829
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: But I think he'd be more expensive than what the

830
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: markins we want to pay for that type of player.

831
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: So I think he's definitely on the board. I know

832
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 3: he's gonna be on Derrek Jeter's board, but I don't

833
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: know how high.

834
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we have a Kevin Pillar, but quickly

835
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: with a Vsio. Yeah, I guess this guy could be

836
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: an option. Let's say, you know, let's say Castillanos is

837
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: gone off the market, Duval goes back to Atlanta, the arbitration.

838
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe you look at a V sales and option.

839
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: We played serious in Milwaukee. I don't know if he

840
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: played it. I'm pretty sure he got a homer off

841
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: that serious at some point. But yeah, moving on to

842
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: the next guy a little bit. I guess unknown Kevin Pilar.

843
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: He had his injury this season, got hit in the

844
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 2: nose with the ball. Shout out to him for coming

845
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: back and making the comeback off that. Yeah, your thoughts

846
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: on Polara. I don't think he's an option at all

847
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: from Miami, but I mean, you never know.

848
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know with Toronto he was superman.

849
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: You know, he was one of the best defensive centerfield

850
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: fielders in all the baseball. He was the Giants for

851
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: a little bit, just offensively kind of limited. In twenty

852
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: twenty one, he had an OPS under seven hundred. Again,

853
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a type of guy that Miami

854
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: goes after at all. I think they need offense, and

855
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: I think they're finally willing to sacrifice some defense for

856
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: good offense, something that they haven't been willing to do

857
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 3: at all. But I think this year they're starting to realize, hey,

858
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: you have the pitching. If you have the pitching, you

859
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: don't need a defense as much. You though like it

860
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: would be nice to have all of them, but that's

861
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: why you gut like Starling Marte is so valuable because

862
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: he brings you all of it. But hey, they traded

863
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: him anyway.

864
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, with Marte, I do think they'll do the due diligence.

865
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 3: I'm sure they.

866
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: Call him and be like, want to come back to Miami?

867
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, Kim Ang will call him, invite him to dinner,

868
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: maybe go to Hillstone for a nice eight o'clock seating,

869
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: and they'll talk and he'll want four years to finish

870
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: off his career. She'll say no, and that's a bleep

871
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: of that. Maybe she'll offer him three years forty five

872
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: million dollars or a club with a mutual option for

873
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: a fourth. I don't know who knows, but I think

874
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: Marte would be great to come back as well. He

875
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: had a great year man.

876
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's been one of the best players in

877
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: this organization. Although it was a short stint, he was

878
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 2: one of the most impact players the Marlins have had

879
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: throughout the whole reworld. Although migiy Row you can for

880
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: sure put up there in terms of leadership. Marty has

881
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: been one of the most impact players on this team,

882
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: and he was one of the more well rounded guys.

883
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: Maybe he he gets maybe the Marlins at discipline say,

884
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: you know, let's do our due diligence and let's overpay

885
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: a little bit in terms of paying money. And then

886
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: the years they cut it down to three. Although I

887
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: think he just wants years. He wants to secure himself

888
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: for for four years and wants to lock it up

889
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 2: because most likely this will be his last big time

890
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: major league contract until he gets maybe a one or

891
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: two years.

892
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is the first time he's a

893
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: free agent, so you know, it would make sense that

894
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: he's gonna test this out. And what I was gonna

895
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: say it was Glenn did make that point that you

896
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: just made Kevin that he, you know, if all the

897
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: players of the Miami has had and it's long and

898
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: it's guy, I guess kind of reset it. I thought

899
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: it was I thought it was Glenn, and it was

900
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: since you know, since ninety three, since Miami has been inaugurated.

901
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: You can look at Stanton, you can look at guy

902
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 3: like Gary Sheffield, you can look at you know, but

903
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: a guy who has all five tools the way Starling

904
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 3: Marte does. I don't know how many guys are were

905
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: as good as Marte was in a Marlin uniform. You

906
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 3: know Yellich he mentioned yellows Hid. You know, he wasn't

907
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: a player, He wasn't Alwaukie with Miami. I was gonna

908
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 3: mention John Carlo to him, but we ran out of time.

909
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say Marte really is one of

910
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: the best players to ever put on a Marlin uniform.

911
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: Not based on how much he did, because obviously he

912
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: was here for two halves, but he was one of

913
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: the better players ever put on a Marlin uniform.

914
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: And something cool to note about Martin that twenty twenty

915
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: season is sixty game season. He played sixty one games,

916
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: So just a cool thing there to talk about. I mean,

917
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go too much in the Ian Desmond,

918
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: but I mean I just looked at the John Hayman reports,

919
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: but I'm not even gonna go much into this guy.

920
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: Only the last two seasons. But besides that, he's not

921
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: coming to Miami anytime soon. Just want to mention here

922
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: because I guess I went through the John Hayman Reports today,

923
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: which a lot of actions going on free agency in

924
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: terms of the outfield market, and Desmond was one of

925
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: them who molt Milwaukee Colorado bought out this I think

926
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: it was Teddy or yesterday for two mil Yeah.

927
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: No great arm. When he was with Washington, I was

928
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 3: a fan of his. Now he's just nothing to consider.

929
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: O would thing for Miami.

930
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then finally, I guess the two guys that

931
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: got their options to climb Dubal Herrera, who who I

932
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: guess has revitalized his career in Philadelphia this last year,

933
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: revived it a little bit. And then Andrew McCutchen, who

934
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: has been on a small decline little by little, I

935
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: mean after his Pittsburgh days. It hasn't been too successful

936
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: for him. But your thoughts on those guys, and I

937
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: guess a double could be a possible option if you

938
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: give him some kind of small deal. But McCutcheon, I

939
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: don't see it.

940
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I actually kind of think McCutchen

941
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: would make more sense than o'double, even though like I

942
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: like Godouable as a player, probably more at this point

943
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: in both their careers. It's just that, you know, Double

944
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: has a lot of off the field issues that I

945
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: don't know if Miami wants to deal with He has

946
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: been suspended before for domestic violence and from whatever heard

947
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: when I was covering one of the Phillies games, one

948
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: of the Phillies writers told me that he is a

949
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: colossal bleephole at times, he hates. He's just doesn't seem

950
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: like the type of guy, the type of personality, the

951
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 3: type of character that Miami tends to target. And McCutchen,

952
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: he wasn't horrible in twenty twenty one, had a one

953
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: point three war and slugged four forty four. I know

954
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: he homeed off Trevor Rodgers last year. He had some

955
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: nice moments. He can hit the ball out. But yeah,

956
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: I think he's, you know, on the tail end of

957
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: his of his magnificent career. But I don't know of

958
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: him make too much sense for Miami.

959
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: And although he did play center field and he's pretty

960
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: good defensively, we've seen that it could be an option

961
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: for sure, but I just I don't see it happening.

962
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: I've seen maybe more although he does have lost field issues.

963
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: Abdouable that is a lot younger, I think than Andrew McCutchen,

964
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: and he's a Latin guy. Miami very Hispanic community, so

965
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: maybe that makes sense in terms for him. Obviously, we

966
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: spoke about Jorge Shilaire, which I forgot to mention on here.

967
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: He did win the MVP, first Cuban, second Cuban to

968
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: do it last time, our good buddy, old friend Levon

969
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: Hernandez who did it in nineteen ninety seven. So yeah,

970
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: I want to get a little bit into horror here

971
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: here to round up the podcast, which we're already in

972
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: forty four minutes, through thoughts on Stilaire and maybe come

973
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: to Miami. I mean, he's a power back for sure

974
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: what Miami looks for, but I think he's a lefty.

975
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he is a free agent as well. He

976
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 3: think I mentioned it on the live stream yesterday. He

977
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: had a negative point for wins above replacement. He was,

978
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: you know, a replacing level player essentially and just got

979
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: hot at the right time in the postseasons, which just

980
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: really sort of like, you know, enhanced his image. I

981
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: don't know if Miami would want to go that route.

982
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: I know he had a great year with Kansas City.

983
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: I think it was twenty nineteen, I don't remember. Yeah,

984
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, he he had like forty five bigs home

985
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: runs and he was insane. But since then it's really

986
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: been sort of limited. He hasn't hit above two thirty

987
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 3: since then, So I don't know if that's the route

988
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: Miami would want to go. He does seem to get

989
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: on base a little bit, but you know, and we

990
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: know he has the light tower power ever since he's

991
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 3: been a Cubs prospect. But that's I think that's someone

992
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: else that's gonna be on Derrek Jeter's board and Kim

993
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: Yang's board, and we'll just we'll see if if he

994
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: ends up coming.

995
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the day, when it comes

996
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 2: to all these outfielders we just spoke about, they're gonna

997
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: be on the board for sure, not not Desmond and

998
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: maybe not Pillar, but y'all, so I have to think

999
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: what's going to attract the fans. What are the fans

1000
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: gonna want? Obviously you look at the baseball part of it,

1001
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: but you also have to look at the community, which

1002
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: they've done a great job with. But the one thing

1003
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: they haven't been able to do is bring fans to

1004
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: the stands. There was a game that I went to,

1005
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: and that was the game I met you at. It

1006
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: was the Pittsburgh one, there was barely anyone there right

1007
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: before first pitch, and he told me twelve thousand, and

1008
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it because they did not look like

1009
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: twelve thousand fans were at a baseball stadium. So Coryjustli

1010
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: is a Cuban guy there on Little Havana, it would

1011
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: make sense. And then Costiano, obviously he's a Florida guy.

1012
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: It would make sense to also bring him. In terms

1013
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: of that, Adam du Wall played with the team very much,

1014
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: loved around the whole organization and in Miami in general.

1015
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: So I guess that's something else we could factor in there.

1016
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure. So I would bring that Cuban

1017
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 3: plat power to Miami. I'm sure he's got the power power.

1018
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: And if for some reason he got like he had

1019
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: a great year in Miami here he hit thirty five

1020
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: home runs, that would electrify this this fan base I

1021
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: would think of, especially I Miami has a good year

1022
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: and has like a good team surrounding him. Him and Sandy,

1023
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: you know, and Pablo and Jazz. It'd be a fun team.

1024
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 3: So I think they do need to look at guys

1025
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: like Solaire, maybe ones that are a little more accomplished

1026
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: and consistent like a Nick Castellanos. But if you if

1027
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: you can give him the four years, one hundred million,

1028
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 3: which is what I think he's gonna net, so layer

1029
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense as like a backup plan

1030
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: and maybe a one year eight to ten million dollar

1031
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: deal even that's it.

1032
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the value of some of these Braves guys

1033
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: who we talked about, Eddie Rosario who or soil there,

1034
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: Adam Duval especially, I think those values are gonna go

1035
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: up because Duval had thirty eight homers last season for

1036
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: for Miami and De Brives combined, so that value isn't

1037
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: gonna be that. I think it was the two year,

1038
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: seven million dollars what Duval got if I'm correct, and

1039
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: with a mutual option. I think after this season, obviously

1040
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: that value is gonna go up. It's gonna be possibly

1041
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: maybe ten mili. Maybe even the Corey Dickerson contract that

1042
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: Miami gave him at the time twelve million dollars for

1043
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: maybe two years, which makes sense. So yeah, I don't

1044
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 2: know if you want to end up off on anything

1045
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: right now.

1046
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: No, just the fact that yes, we're gonna be at

1047
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: free agency officially soon. We also have the elephant in

1048
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: the room regarding the CBA, waiting to see if there

1049
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: would be any works stoppage or any lockout of some sort.

1050
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: I hope that's not the case. It's looking like it

1051
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 3: might be, unfortunately, but hey, let's act like if it doesn't.

1052
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: Miami has a lot of work to do. Fill up

1053
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: these holes up the middle behind the dish. We didn't

1054
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: really talk about catchers, you know in this episode. We

1055
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: did last time. But yeah, Miami's got a lot of

1056
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: work to do because this is the year, it's kimmying

1057
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 3: second year, it's their Jeter's fifth year, they're without Michael Hill.

1058
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: They're going to do a whole lot of turnover with

1059
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 3: the coaching staff, you'd assume. So I think you'll see

1060
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 3: Miami making a lot of moves, and it would be

1061
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: great to start off with a bang like Nick Casaianos and.

1062
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: Not just that is the year Man missis said it.

1063
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: Many have said it that the pressure is on Man

1064
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 2: from the bottom up. Jeter wants to when he's tired

1065
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: of it. And I don't even want to get into

1066
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: what would happen to this season. This next season is

1067
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: a fluke, because that would be a big storyline, and

1068
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Speaker 2: maybe even Nadilee's gone. Some guys will for sure be gone.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say Madden Lee, but and we'll get into

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Speaker 2: that possibly next show. If we don't have a guest,

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Speaker 2: we hope to have one, but we'll announce that possibly

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Speaker 2: the day before. And this is for showing of the

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Speaker 2: most hyped off seasons in the rebuild in at least

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Speaker 2: the past five to six years. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: the first time when we're talking big names. We're not

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Speaker 2: talking let's get a Matt Joyce, let's get a Brandon Cancer.

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Speaker 2: We're talking Nick fucking Casteanos. We're talking all these big

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Speaker 2: time guys. So it's great to see. And this is

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Speaker 2: where we're gonna end it. Isaac once again, thank you

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Speaker 2: for coming on once again, co host Mead and him.

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Speaker 2: This has been such a fun ride, man. I mean

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Speaker 2: we talked about this yesterday. How it's already been five episodes,

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Speaker 2: so I can't wait for this for next episode. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like subscribe Isaac. Any last words, man.

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Speaker 3: No, just say I appreciate you do a great job

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Speaker 3: hosting this podcast, or continue when you buy weekly you

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Speaker 3: will drop Saturday morning. And yeah, we will continue to

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Speaker 3: do this throughout the off season and hopefully into next

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Speaker 3: season as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like and subscribe to YouTube always coming out with

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Speaker 2: the weekly live stream, so we'll have them next week

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Speaker 2: for sure Wednesday at every Wednesday at seven pm Eastern

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Speaker 2: Time from me from me Kevin isaac Eli producing. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you guys all on the next one.

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Speaker 3: In peace out oh Rad everybody,