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Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for not reconciling with my

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Speaker 2: Framing your family for crimes?

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Speaker 1: Well, this story is to help answer the question how

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Speaker 1: should you deal with stealing between family members? Very interesting?

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Speaker 1: This comes up throw away eight through two. Four to

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Speaker 1: two says throw away. Because my brother is a redditor

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Speaker 1: and I am twenty three and a male, you can't

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Speaker 1: I am the middle child of my parents fifty four

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Speaker 1: male and fifty three female, and I have an older

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Speaker 1: been living with my family for five years with the

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Speaker 1: very bare minimum of contact because right around the time

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Speaker 1: I turned fifteen, my dad's stuff started disappearing from his room.

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Speaker 1: He has a pocket knife collection filled with different knives

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Speaker 1: them are pretty decently valuable, not worth like several grand

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Speaker 1: or anything, but those would probably fetch a few hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: That's hey, that's that's not nothing. That ain't nothing for one.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: That ain't chump change.

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Speaker 2: That ain't chump change.

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Speaker 1: He also has a collection of baseball cards and autographed baseballs.

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Speaker 1: These items would vanish from his room and end up

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Speaker 1: in my room. And each time I got I got

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Speaker 1: punished for it, and each time was more severe than

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Speaker 1: the last. With what evidence, with what proof through that

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Speaker 1: we have a reliable narrator, narrator, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're too early. We're too early to know.

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Speaker 1: I was looked at by my entire immediately immediate family

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Speaker 1: as a faith for three years, even though I constantly

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Speaker 1: pleaded my innocence to them. We need to take it

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Speaker 1: to dude, can you imagine going to like a civil

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Speaker 3: Because this is like the problem people do.

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Speaker 1: Because OP is fifteen, so nearing that I think there's

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Speaker 1: probably at this point thousands of thousands, if not ten

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Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen years old. Who I hope that's at

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Speaker 1: an update, I missed out on a few vacations, didn't

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Speaker 1: around my neighborhood. Dude, his own dad is icing him

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Speaker 1: out wild, This is too much. I remember my dad

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Speaker 1: and mom telling me how much of a disappointment I was,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, and that they wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 2: Robbery suspect or worse.

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Speaker 1: My extended family wasn't much help either and saw me

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Speaker 2: My god, git their.

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Speaker 1: Gaslighting in, dude, either through some kind of mental struggle

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory. I think that maybe they're.

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Speaker 3: Claiming and maybe what if they're like claiming insurance on

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Speaker 1: Them, and could you imagine if that's what they were doing,

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Speaker 2: I don't like this. I don't like this.

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Speaker 3: Would you if if your child were actually stealing from you,

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Speaker 3: Great question? Not this, I would do bad. I would

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Speaker 1: My child is more important than any object on planet Earth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, p blank Perry.

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Speaker 3: And in this case, he hasn't even done it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, you don't. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I really hate the parents right now.

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Speaker 1: So where my brother was caught taking stuff and putting

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Speaker 3: This he's just framing all of his family? What is

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Speaker 3: I did, I wasn't quite clear on this. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: Correct, the brother was taking it and seemingly hiding it

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Speaker 3: Like nothing happened. It was just in his room. Do

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Speaker 2: Yeah. This this isn't stealing.

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Speaker 3: This is putting something in your room. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, one last point before getting back to the story.

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Speaker 3: The the actual consequences.

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Speaker 1: So like the fact they didn't like lose thousands of

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Speaker 1: Hey, Sophia, you, uh, I'm just gonna say it's you,

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Speaker 2: What that is? That is, that's that's murder.

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Speaker 3: John. You know what they say what theft is a crime.

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Speaker 2: But you know what theft is a crime? Don't pirate?

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Speaker 3: Is Honestly, I don't even blame the brother who's doing

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Speaker 1: I would steal from these loser parents, my god, they

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Speaker 3: To little too late.

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Speaker 1: But today I asked her what her plan was for

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Speaker 1: Prom solved, proumsolved.

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Speaker 3: He hate these parents.

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Speaker 1: I lost it on her and berated them for treating

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Speaker 2: Wow, don't forget that.

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Speaker 1: I then said that I will not be attending any

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Speaker 2: So what do you think?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: No, I the parents, without a doubt are huge, massive

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: I was debating in my head because I was like

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Speaker 3: I do believe.

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Speaker 1: I do declare that probably the parents' behavior will and

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Speaker 1: and Opie's like, listen, you you need to understand how

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Speaker 1: to I don't even know. If you can't make this up,

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Speaker 1: to be better and to have me in your lives.

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Speaker 3: That's the hero.

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Speaker 1: What I'm debating in my head right now is if

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Speaker 3: But I will say, there's been it's been five years

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Speaker 1: It's been five years, and this is fresh, like op

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Speaker 3: Actually, wait, the first one was from fifteen. Yes he

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, fifteen to twenty three because uh, because right

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Speaker 3: Oh living away from my family.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh yes, living away.

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Speaker 1: I might have said that, so my bad, guys, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, so he's been living away of course because

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Speaker 3: You, guys. This has been happening for longer.

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Speaker 2: And correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: They continue to blame him, but despite him being moved out,

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Speaker 3: It might have stopped and then it started up again,

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Speaker 3: and then they blamed him again. Yeah, until they actually

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Speaker 2: So it was you know what it was?

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Speaker 1: It was the because like he said, like, oh, everyone

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's like nine years of this treatment. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I honestly think he's so warranted in what he said. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would I wouldn't even want. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm really struggling because I think that

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Speaker 3: He left like ye, right, he left immediately.

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Speaker 1: He left immediately, like as soon as he legally could

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Speaker 1: no as especially for now, because I I will say

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, the thing is that this wasn't

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Speaker 1: That reaction, absolutely, especially as a kid and all that.

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Speaker 3: Like let's say, let's say they thought he had stolen

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I still don't think this reaction, but

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Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm so sorry, Like we shouldn't have

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Speaker 3: blamed you. But in this scenario, he didn't. Nothing was

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Speaker 3: gone forever. It was simply moved, and he was treated

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's fair.

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Speaker 1: Janane says, if I was a crappy parent, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be crappy equally.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, uh, like that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: He was like, you sucked for me, so you better

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like at the barest of minimums.

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Speaker 1: Let's not be a hypocrite and like give him, you know,

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Speaker 1: similar drastically harsh treatment that.

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Speaker 2: The brother had. I mean, I don't know, what do

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Speaker 4: I think the brother, you know, equal treatment for equal siblings.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, that's that's you know, that's a hot that's a

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Speaker 1: spicy take, spiciest take that I know. Spicy has that

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Speaker 1: fresh sweet haircut?

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Speaker 3: You got haircut?

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Speaker 1: Looking at crispy, sir. Wow, everyone's everyone's got haircuts except

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 3: It's not that different.

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Speaker 1: It's do you need a little teldr welcome by the way, No,

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Speaker 1: I'll just go and blind great.

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Speaker 3: Basically very quick steal dr.

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Speaker 1: The parents blamed Op for like stealing a bunch of

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Speaker 1: like baseball cards and like knive collections, which were worth

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Speaker 1: seemingly thousands of dollars, even though they found them so

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Speaker 1: they never even like totally lost the value or the items.

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Speaker 4: Wait, they blamed Op for losing these.

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Speaker 3: Things because they thought he stole them. Oh so Op

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Speaker 3: was These baseball cards and collections were found in Op's room. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're like, oh, you're the thief.

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Speaker 3: Da da da.

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Speaker 1: They had no other evidence other than that, and then

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Speaker 1: it continued. The whole family thought he was a thief.

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Speaker 1: He moved out at eighteen, he's now twenty three. Started

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Speaker 2: Out of the house.

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Speaker 1: So they were like, oh, this is strange. Let's in

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Speaker 4: Oh so he has this brother had been like hoarding it.

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Speaker 3: Who had been putting it?

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Speaker 2: Framing them basically, yeah, and stealing and everything.

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Speaker 4: And I thought the brother was like putting it in

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Speaker 4: Op's room as a way to like hoard it, but

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Speaker 1: Could have it could have been to like get hate

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Speaker 3: I don't think he was actually trying to steal it.

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Speaker 3: I think I think I thought he was trying to

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe yeah, you're probably right, because yeah, ultimately he

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Speaker 1: because he's like doing all this bs. And then uh,

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Speaker 1: his like game station for a month.

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Speaker 4: Wait, so they were about to ruin opi these whole life.

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Speaker 4: They did, and then they did ruin op whole life.

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Speaker 4: But for the other kid, it was just like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Yes, so eight years of ruined life versus no phone

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Speaker 3: and uh, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean but is a life without your game boy even

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Is game game boys not even a thing anymore?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: No, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was going for a no free sponsors game console.

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Speaker 1: The game called video games, the games and more. You

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Speaker 1: want to be able to removed from the games. But

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Speaker 1: that's where we were at. And Opie has now basically

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Speaker 1: literally said a few to the parents blocked going to

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Speaker 1: contact done.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that you had the right to

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Speaker 4: do that, probably when they were eight years ago. Eight yeah,

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Speaker 4: eight years ago, but now the hypocrisy that has been

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Speaker 3: More on that war. On that also, Opie said that

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Speaker 3: it got to the point where he thought he was

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Speaker 3: doing it. Yes, like he was like I thought I

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Speaker 3: was sleepwalking.

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Speaker 1: Like the family was like essentially because like everyone in

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Speaker 1: his life as of fifteen sixteen, seventeen eight, you're an

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Speaker 1: eighteen year old, you're like, am I like you? Just

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Speaker 1: you kind of OPI was losing touch with reality because

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Speaker 3: It was crazy.

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Speaker 2: But ladies and gentlemen, this story is far from over.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into some relevant comments.

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Speaker 1: So commenter says, I think Opie should point out to

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Speaker 1: same thing to her to frame her as a thief

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Speaker 1: and have her punished. Which is a great point, Opie said,

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Speaker 1: which was an even wider move because I forgot to

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Speaker 1: clarify that she just moved out of that house a

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Speaker 1: yearish after I did.

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Speaker 2: Commenter said, wait, sorry, I'm not following.

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Speaker 1: Your brother tried to frame your sister for theft when

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Speaker 1: she wasn't even the house. Opie says, yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: very dumb and idiotic move on his part. Have no

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Speaker 2: He was thinking. Uh, jail or not? For the brother?

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Speaker 2: Do we throw him in prison?

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Speaker 4: The idiot brother that is trying to throw people under

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Speaker 4: the bus.

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Speaker 1: He is as of today, the brother is currently nineteen

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Speaker 1: years old.

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Speaker 3: Opie is tow three. Why did this idiot? So when

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Speaker 3: this started he was nine, eight years ago, ten, ten, ten?

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Speaker 4: Okay, eleven, okay, so wait eleven he he basically pulled

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this sounds like a ten year old prank.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he was, maybe he didn't realize.

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Speaker 2: But then he called again at nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Well okay, yeah, no, no, no, he sounds like stupid. But

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Speaker 3: like going back at ten years old, a little boy

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Speaker 3: pulls a prank. He puts his dad's baseball collection in

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Speaker 3: His parents are going like full fours, and then this

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Speaker 3: I can never tell them that I did this.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's just lived with this gelt for so long.

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Speaker 2: But then he did it.

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Speaker 3: Again, yeah, which it negates the point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, prison for the eleven year old. I tag prison,

448
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 4: the prison, prison for kids, prison for kids. Yeah, we

449
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 4: need real p Yeah, but I want real prison for kids. Interesting,

450
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 4: you know where they have to like work on license

451
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 4: plates and stuff.

452
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 2: I'm fully on board. I want a prison just for

453
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 2: this kid, just for this kid, solitary confinement for this child.

454
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 1: Put them in adult prison, this even year old in

455
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 1: prison with the adults. That's my stance, and I'm not

456
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 1: changing it. That's my stance and I'm not changing it.

457
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: Damn what I said, what I said.

458
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 3: Tim Hyatt says for the brother, he was probably just

459
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 3: a prank, but once he saw how much he could

460
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 3: get away with, it continued as a milicious act.

461
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: Point.

462
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm looking. I was looking at the first

463
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 3: scenario because the second scenario of him doing it at

464
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: nineteen is like, why are you doing this? Something's up

465
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 3: with you?

466
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 4: Wait, first happened somewhat related question. Yes, if you get

467
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 4: tried as an adult, do you go to real prison.

468
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: Yes, that's that's why they try and try.

469
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, or do you just get real prison consequences?

470
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 3: I wonder trying as an adult.

471
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 4: So if you're a ten year old and are tried

472
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 4: as an adult, you get put into get put in

473
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Speaker 4: the real prison with like like giants from my.

474
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm crazy with Harid getting old.

475
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 3: My boy, what you're a convict criminal? God? Yeah yeah,

476
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 3: now you go to real prison. But you go to

477
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 3: real prison.

478
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. Maybe maybe if someone on the.

479
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 3: Comments crazy, imagine a ten year old in prison. I

480
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,479
Speaker 3: think I think it's why it's crazy.

481
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: I think generally speaking, you try like like a fifteen

482
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Speaker 1: year old who did some like super heinous like you

483
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: know mass uh. That's where it's like trying someone as

484
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: an adult because it's like so like so road and

485
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 1: so yeah, so bad and so far, like it's what.

486
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 4: A you know, yeah, I thought it was no, okay yeah,

487
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 4: John Nane says no, they go to kid jail until

488
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 4: eighteen and then are transferred, so you get real you

489
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 4: get so like I think with a lot of crimes,

490
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, once you turn eighteen, then you get

491
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 4: all of it expunged. But if you're tried as an adult,

492
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: it stays with you, I think.

493
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Speaker 1: And I was also wondering, I wonder if they changed

494
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: the like if the crime is so heinous, maybe they

495
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: do put a seventeen.

496
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: Year old in a adult.

497
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: Well, I know that there are there have been instances

498
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: where fourteen year olds were tried as adults and then, uh,

499
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 3: I don't think of a word say it.

500
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: Everyone's saying that is juvie till eighteen.

501
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 3: They had the death penalty at fourteen because they were

502
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Speaker 3: tried as an adult.

503
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they go to death row.

504
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 3: I mean literally, simably, I think I think everyone.

505
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 4: Anyway, So death row for this eleven year old.

506
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: Just prison for life? See unfair. I'm fair.

507
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: My point wasn't that that was good. My point is

508
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: that was bad. There's also innocence.

509
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: I was very putting the eleven year old in prison

510
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: with adults. That's all I'm saying, very simple, you know,

511
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: very yes, of course, of course, yes, it's a very

512
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: fair verdict.

513
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: These are posted on this guy.

514
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: Stand by what I said. Well, let's get into the

515
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: rest of these relevant comments. So info from the commentary.

516
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: Tell me more about your brother. What was your relationship

517
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: with him when he was nine to eleven years old

518
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: when around this happened. Uh, and you were a teen

519
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: before everything started. What is he doing now? Is he

520
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: in college university? Does they have a job, or is

521
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: he just a mucher. Opie says, he's in college. As

522
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: far as I know, our relationship was never bad at all,

523
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: which shocked me more than anything.

524
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: They were like friends.

525
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, hey, let me just ruin your life.

526
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 1: Another commentary says, I don't understand. I think your parents

527
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: took the phone away from him as a form of punishment.

528
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: This is something done to a high schooler, a child,

529
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: a person eighteen and under. Still in high school. Opie says,

530
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: he still lives at home for free.

531
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: As far as I know.

532
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous and utter bs and we have our next

533
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: update coming up.

534
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I want.

535
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 4: To hear this update them. I sat right in the

536
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: middle of this story, so it's at warm. It up

537
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 4: to the idea of adult prison her kids. But maybe

538
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 4: I'll be on your side. I also, via your mic

539
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 4: is in focus.

540
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I realized that, like right up, I did not

541
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: even notice. Oh, ladies and gentlemen look great. So ladies

542
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: and gentlemen have an update. We'll see if it's eleven

543
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: year old gets to go to prison or not.

544
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 3: So. Uh.

545
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: My sister, who I call Tea for simplicity, uh, called

546
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: me about an hour ago as of the time I'm

547
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: writing this, and apologized for what she told me. Wow,

548
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: crazy timing.

549
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 3: Me and her have been very close ever since I.

550
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: Moved out, and she has been known to step up

551
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: and apologize when she is in the wrong. No hard

552
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: feelings towards her at all, at least, Nope. Has one

553
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: person that's a great thing to be known for. That

554
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: is very true, unless it's like, yeah, she's always f

555
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: it up. She's always stepping up and apologized. Sorry, guys,

556
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: sorry a bad do over your child. But hey, you

557
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: know I'm that person. I'm holding myself. Hold yeah, exactly.

558
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: As far as my parents go, my mother had an

559
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: overnight epiphany. According to my sister Tea, she ended up

560
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: kicking my She ended up kicking out my brother, who

561
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: I'll call Jay, out of the house after they were

562
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: able to make him admit to doing this for years.

563
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: Wow.

564
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: My mom told my sister Tea that he was sent

565
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: to my granddad's house where he will be forced to

566
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: get a job and pay rent as well as his

567
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: own tuition. Now, what about prison? I am still asking,

568
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: but we'll get to that hopefully soon.

569
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: Wait, so he has to go and work like everyone else,

570
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 4: like legal adults.

571
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, my dad.

572
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: My dad initially fought her on this until she made

573
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: him realize just how badly he was.

574
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: Tearing this family apart.

575
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: A tearing this family apart.

576
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: I bet it was mostly the dad leading the punishments

577
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: and the mom kind of just like following along.

578
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: And the mom's finally realized after eight years how big

579
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: she fft up in like co signing it.

580
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: My dad then called me, apologizing profusely, telling me that

581
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: I don't ever have to see them again, and that

582
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: they would totally understand it, but they would love the

583
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: chance to make amends and fix what they damaged. He

584
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: offered to give me the amount of the money I

585
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: owed for loans, plus an extra five thousand for keeps.

586
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's loans payback the mystic items

587
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: or like student loans or something else, but maybe we'll

588
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: see get more contexts in the future.

589
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: I told them I will think it over, but it

590
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: might take me a while.

591
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: I did accept this apology, but I haven't forgiven either

592
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: of them yet, and I hung up. My mom doesn't

593
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: know that me and my sister Tea have kept in contact,

594
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: as I live about two hours away from my parents

595
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: and three plus hours away from her, and Tea related

596
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: to me that my mom and dad were thinking about

597
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: selling some stuff they own and taking extra shifts at

598
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,239
Speaker 1: each of their jobs so they can get me a

599
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: brand new vehicle as a surprise.

600
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: Are they gonna sell the collections.

601
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: Bull Circle?

602
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 3: Honestly, that would be so funny.

603
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: I honestly, how much is it worth?

604
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: I think a couple thousands, at least.

605
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: A couple thousand, maybe over ten thousand.

606
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: They said that each item was like roughly a few

607
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: hundred dollars each, and they had like some knives, some knives,

608
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: baseball cards and baseballs.

609
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: So no, it must be worth more because they're about

610
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: to give op like five grand five.

611
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, that money. It wasn't they were

612
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: giving that money as like what was stolen. Nothing was

613
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 3: into stolen. They're just giving it right because he has

614
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: loans for school.

615
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: I think.

616
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: I think it's loans not tied to the valuation of

617
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: the eyes.

618
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: It's not because nothing was stolen like and sold.

619
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 4: But still like if they're willing to part with five

620
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: thousand dollars, I feel like it, Like I could see

621
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 4: if that was worth hundreds of thousands or like one

622
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars, then it would be more worthy of

623
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: a familial blow up than something that's like worth ten

624
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: grand if they're already like easily giving him five grand.

625
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: Possibly, But let me ask you this would would your

626
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: kid at.

627
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: Like fifteen taking any collectible that you then found, would

628
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: that warrant you basically ruining their lives for eighteen eight years?

629
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: And no, but the chance of you ruining your kid's

630
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: life in pieces with the amount of money that they stole.

631
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: I would guess that the value of this is like

632
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: between ten and fifty grand, maybe on the high end.

633
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: Because he was in cards can be worth a lot.

634
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Well, he's he said so in the beginning, he was

635
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: like pretty explicit where he.

636
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: Was like, I have a friend that has fifty grand.

637
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: He says, cards not worth like several grand or anything.

638
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 3: But some of those probably fetch for a few hundred.

639
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: Yes, each of the items from what I was and

640
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: I imagine the baseball cards probably has hundreds of baseball cards.

641
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: So no, but I think he's saying, like the knife collection,

642
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 3: the Baseball connection collection. Yeah, so I think all of

643
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: those together are probably at the most a couple thousand,

644
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: and they ruined this guy's life. Yes, that's what we're on.

645
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: I'm honestly about maybe already don't like him and just

646
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 4: looking for excuses.

647
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: Well, it seems like they like this other brother much more.

648
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they definitely do. I mean that much is clear.

649
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 4: It's a little bit confusing to me.

650
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: And some of them are pretty decently valuable, not worth

651
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: like several grand or anything, but some of these probably

652
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: fetch for a few hundred, so.

653
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: I think, Okay, so each top amongst them.

654
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Each of the items. But we are it's we have

655
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: basically zero insight into how large the collection is, and

656
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm kind of gonna guess that it's not that big

657
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: because also, if you think about this, let's say they're

658
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: having to work extra shifts to get some loan money

659
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: to get a car. Maybe I think their incomes are

660
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: super low and maybe ten to fifty grand means a

661
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: lot to them because the income is ten to fifty Grandaw,

662
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: it's a lot low. It's a lot, you know what

663
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, But I digress. My dad initially fought with

664
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: her on this until she made him realize how badly

665
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: he was tearing the fairriendly apart. My dad then called

666
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: me apologized profusely, telling me that I didn't have to

667
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: see them again and that they would totally understand, but

668
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: they would love the chance to make amends and fixed

669
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Speaker 1: with it.

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00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: Damaged, he ordered, uh.

671
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: He offered to gift the amount of money I owed

672
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: for loans, plus an extra five thousand for keeps okay

673
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: so to cover Opie's loans, and five grand on top,

674
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: just as straight up cash.

675
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: Not bad, This is good.

676
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: I told him I will think it over, but it

677
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: might take a while.

678
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: I did accept his apology, but I haven't forgiven either

679
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: of them yet, and I hung up my dad. My

680
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: mom doesn't know that me and t have kept in contact,

681
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: as that lived two hours away from my parents and

682
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: three hours plus away from her, and te relate to

683
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: me that my mom and dad were thinking about selling

684
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: some stuff they own and taking extra shifts at each

685
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: of their jobs so they could get me.

686
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: A brand new vehicle as a surprise.

687
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: So they're paying undisclosed loan amounts plus five grand plus

688
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: maybe buying a car by you know, selling stuff. It

689
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: seems like that the car they need to like, you know,

690
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: fell a bunch of stuff.

691
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: It's just it's confusing to me, like if they don't

692
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: have much money, how are they affording to do all

693
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 4: of that? Like five like be able to part with

694
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: five grand and loan money, have a lot of money

695
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 4: and car a lot. When did they say they weren't

696
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: able to when they didn't have a lot of money.

697
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: Well, they said they were just happy to work.

698
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: I'm reading between the line here because it's like like

699
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 4: if the if the uh, the collection is maybe only

700
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: worth like around ten grand and they ruined someone's life

701
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: over it, but they're so willing and able to just

702
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 4: part with lone mind five k a car. They're like, oh, sorry, bam,

703
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: here it is. It's it doesn't feel like it's someone

704
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: who's struggling for something. And so it's like really just

705
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: that they hate this part like this kid, Like that's

706
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: like it's just like more and more that this wasn't

707
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 4: coming from a place of oh this is like some

708
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: financial security.

709
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: It is we hate this kid.

710
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: I think it was more about yeah, just the.

711
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah because nothing was stolen.

712
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they yeah, they literally found everything. Yeah, so

713
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: no value was lost, but they thought that the value

714
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: was lost.

715
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: For they thought it was, but then they found everything

716
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: in a long after this we don't know for sure,

717
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: but presumably not. No.

718
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: Well, I think the issue was they were like, stuff's missing,

719
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: found it in his room? How long was this stuff missing?

720
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: Though we in both cases we can presumably not that

721
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: long because when they found it, I have to imagine

722
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: like a few days or a week. Maybe I'm and again,

723
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: this is more you know, we we're we're all missing

724
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: a lot of context on the finances and stuff. But like,

725
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: yeah it see it seems pretty clear to your point

726
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: that this is just more like vindictive and like hating

727
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: the child, to Janane's point, like being the black sheep

728
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: of the family, especially given the brother was given almost

729
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: no punishment for a more heinous crime.

730
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: Also, your corner looks great, by the way, John's corner. Oh, like,

731
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: look how pretty that looks? Looks so good, Michael, I

732
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 4: love your corner, not you.

733
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: But Opie continues, I don't know how this is going

734
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: to sound, but I'd rather not take a car or

735
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: any money off of them, because, Ay, everything that I

736
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: own so far I earned through my hard work, and

737
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: be I feel like just buying your child affection back

738
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: is a lazy way to reconcile as far as the

739
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: situation goes. I did unblock my mom, but I will

740
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: not be initiating conversation unless she or unless she or

741
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: my dad texts first. Also, they did make an apology

742
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: on Facebook to me and scolded my brother for what happened.

743
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 3: Not the Facebook call out. Facebook's back again.

744
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: What's with all of these like Facebook like public Facebook

745
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 4: beefs that are just putting to people? Are people doing

746
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: that just put pair on Facebook?

747
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: Like the past, I feel like the past few weeks

748
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: all the stories are centered around like Facebook beef, Facebook

749
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: family beef.

750
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: It's also just speak as someone who doesn't use Facebook.

751
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: The amount of stuff going on in Facebook baffles me.

752
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: It kind of is a whole ecosystem that we're just

753
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: totally under We have our largest communities.

754
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, well so now we're like using Facebook more because

755
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: of that, and like are understanding a little bit. But

756
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: I had no idea the brave new world for us. Yeah.

757
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: So I might update if something else happens, but that's

758
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: all I got for right now. I'm gonna read a

759
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: quick relevant comment before another update.

760
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 4: Uh.

761
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: Someone commented, but op please don't forgive them ha ha.

762
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: Opie says That's what I'm planning on doing. Forgiveness is

763
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: on the horizon.

764
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say, like, like, take all

765
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: the money, but don't give any of the forgiveness.

766
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to accept the money, but not the car.

767
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: If they actually go through and buy it. It doesn't

768
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: feel wrong to take five grand from them, though, I

769
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just.

770
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: My stupid pride or watch why not take the car?

771
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 3: Well, it's probably more in their name than money.

772
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: I get.

773
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: I think Op is doing it. I think Ops maybe

774
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: taking the middle ground of his previous stance where he's like,

775
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: I'll take some of your money, but I won't let

776
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: you just like completely buy me out. So he could

777
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: still say like I.

778
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 4: Didn't take what like it's like, yes, like buy him

779
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 4: out of guilt of guilt. Basically, I'd be like, but

780
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 4: you can't just buy your way out of guilt.

781
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: They're not paragons of parenting, as the story has shown.

782
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: I know, but so, but like, why not just accept

783
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: it all? And I actually have a I have a

784
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: response to myself on that.

785
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, Sam.

786
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 4: So I think my response to what I just to

787
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 4: what idiot Sam said would be like I think maybe

788
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 4: the car would, like Sophia said, be more in the

789
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: parents name and thus would have a loan out. So like,

790
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: let's say it's like a twenty grand car, they're paying

791
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 4: a loan over time. If they said if like op

792
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: isn't sufficiently absolving them of the guilt, and the way

793
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 4: they like it was like, all right, we're not paying

794
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: your car loan bam gets reclaimed by like someone else.

795
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: That's a great point. Unless it's outright bot it's like

796
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: a little it's like it's like.

797
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: A bait on a fishing pole. Yeah, just milk in

798
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: front of a cat, milk sam in front of what

799
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: you had to be there, a cow. It was a

800
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: whole thing. You wouldn't You wouldn't get it.

801
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 3: That's fine.

802
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: I just think it's it's a John and Sophia's stream gud.

803
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: I didn't even want to get it.

804
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: This is a point that's after But if there's some

805
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: modal ladies and gentlemen, so bit a bit of let's

806
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: get into this update.

807
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: I got a call from my sister Teeth.

808
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: My brother Jay just got arrested WHOA for stealing my

809
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: grandpa's trek keys and hitting a street light about two

810
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: miles outside of the house last night.

811
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: September twenty fifth. WHOA.

812
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: We'll update when I get more details as I'm gonna

813
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: call my dad. Stay tuned. I'm gonna get right into

814
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: the next part of this update. Yeah, we don't know.

815
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: We don't know, but if he was in prison at eleven,

816
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: this is what happened.

817
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 4: Also, he's probably fine because if GTA has taught me anything,

818
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: you can just hit those street lights and they get

819
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 4: knocked down in a second.

820
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: Tree don't even think a tree easy, easy day logic

821
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: tells you everything. When I when I started driving, I

822
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: was afraid that my hood would fly off because of

823
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: how easily hoods fly off.

824
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: It was a very like, uh what a disassociated uh.

825
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: Feeling was It's actually so funny my driving side.

826
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 2: There's more to this very juicy up there here.

827
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: So I love that.

828
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: The title of this TXT update. My brother is practically disowned,

829
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: for better or for worse. This is three days after

830
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: last update, so my brother has not taken to his

831
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: new living arrangements well at all. You don't say he

832
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: hasn't gone out long for work. And yesterday he was

833
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: caught trying to break into my grandpa's safe right before

834
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: he stole the truck. Prison Prison, Prison, prison.

835
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: Sophia Callan says he's a kept doomaniac.

836
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is true. It seems like he got a

837
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: little taste, he got a little u get a little juice.

838
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: He's probably been doing it since he was eleven ye.

839
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 4: And again, like this would not happen if he was

840
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: in prison at eleven.

841
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: That's guys, I don't like what we're at.

842
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 3: Eleven year old go to adult prison.

843
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this one.

844
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: I you know what other eleven year olds up for debate,

845
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: but this one has to go in prison. So he

846
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: was going too fast and unintentionally hit the street light.

847
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: That's it's always unintentional. He doesn't have any injuries. But yeah,

848
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any injuries, but the truck is possibly totaled,

849
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: and my grandparents kicked him out too.

850
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: He now has no home, and.

851
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: My parents have canceled his college fund and are using

852
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: it to pay for my grandparents to get a new vehicle.

853
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: My dad told me that he was going to try

854
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: to surprise me with a new vehicle, but that idea

855
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: was out of the window, to which I said, I

856
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: appreciate his offer, but I would have declined it anyways,

857
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: because I have my reliable oh one Cherokee sponsor John.

858
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: You're right, wo No, I know pertinent story details. So

859
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: my parents have practically disowned him. And it's also crazy

860
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: to me that he was never truly rebellious up into

861
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: this point.

862
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: Never rebellious.

863
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: I think he may be dealing with some serious mental crisis,

864
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me if his mugshot shows up

865
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: on my local news. I'm not too well versed on psychology.

866
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm charonical engineering degree. Let's go where my engineer's ads,

867
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: so I know nothing about the human psychology.

868
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 4: Also, I feel like there was a subtle flex in there.

869
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: It's like I don't know anything about the branch because

870
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 4: I'm freaking engineer.

871
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: That's right, I'm so brilliant, but kindle.

872
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: Jerokee and I'm an engineer.

873
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I asked, is there anyone out there with

874
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: an idea as to why he may be going through this?

875
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, we have another updates, more relevant comments,

876
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: and another updates and another relevant comment after that, so

877
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: we have more. We have more, but this is over

878
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: because that is the right. So what do we think

879
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: at this point? We have gotten a lot more context?

880
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: Do what do we think that Okey in his position

881
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: and should do and think about the situation with his brother,

882
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: Because if to Opie's point, maybe there's some serious like

883
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: mental health issues going on well with this kid.

884
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 4: Sure, but like I feel like, as we've said before,

885
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 4: just because there are serious mental health issues doesn't mean

886
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 4: you absolve them of dickishness, but you maybe know how

887
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 4: to treat the dickishness.

888
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: What if what if you kind of sit him down

889
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, we will because he's basically kind

890
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: of been like financially cut off and everything. What if

891
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: they're like, the only way we will we will financially

892
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: support you so you don't have to like, you know,

893
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: try not to live in poverty, be on the streets.

894
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: Is we go get you a psych evaluation?

895
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: If that if if we get an evaluation or even

896
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: you know, a second opinion too that says like, hey,

897
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: you should go to you know, get X, Y and

898
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: Z help for your mental health medication. Uh, maybe a

899
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: center for a certain amount of time, like whatever the

900
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: case may be, We're going to do that.

901
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: I think that's a pretty good idea because like, like

902
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: what we're we're understanding, we would understand more about the

903
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 4: brother and like, can he can get the help he needs,

904
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: but only if he's actually advocating for himself to get

905
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 4: that help. And so it's kind of like you have

906
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 4: the consent to take things a little like a little

907
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 4: autonomy away from him so he can get this help.

908
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're incentivizing him to improve exactly exactly. He

909
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 4: may not take it, and then it's like, all right,

910
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 4: we tried, we tried.

911
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: It's on you.

912
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that I think that's a I

913
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: think that's like the best thing that you could do.

914
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 4: It it's definitely the most angel thing you could do.

915
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: But I I don't think you're like you are necessarily

916
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 4: morally obligated to see that to the end where it's

917
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 4: like if he doesn't, if he doesn't accept the help,

918
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: then it's like totally you're.

919
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: All you can do.

920
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: And as much as I want this eleven year old

921
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: in prison, which I really do, it's also.

922
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: A challenging thing.

923
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Even at I feel like imagining myself as a parent

924
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: to a nineteen year old, it's even still a challenging

925
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: thing to completely cut off a nineteen year old who

926
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: is especially going through it seems at least something if

927
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't have serious mental health issues, just like a insane,

928
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: evil person.

929
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: I guess that they're they've never once tried to like

930
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: actually help any of their children. They never really Yeah,

931
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, all right, you know what.

932
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 4: I know, you've gone through hell for the last like,

933
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: you know, almost decade, but you're five grand here's a

934
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 4: new Sudan.

935
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: You've won for your childhood trauma.

936
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: You've won a new Sudan. Yeah, that's exactly what it

937
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: feels like. Yeah. When he when they thought, oh he

938
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: was stealing things, they should have had to talk about that, Hey,

939
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: can't be doing that. Why like, why do you think

940
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: you're doing that? And then once they found out was

941
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: the brother, it should have been hey, can't be doing that.

942
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 3: Why do you think you're doing that? How can we

943
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 3: stop you from doing that?

944
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 2: They Harry Pottered.

945
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: Ope, Yeah, they really did Harry Potter to be in

946
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: a way in the fact that they're just like no

947
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: family vacations, no birthdays, no driving, no basically no extracurriculars.

948
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: Will put you in a box and make sure that

949
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: you don't die of starvation.

950
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 4: But I feel like that is the worst punishment to

951
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: give a child.

952
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: Yes, the robs them of their childhood.

953
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and well, and it also probably does it doesn't

954
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: expose them to the good things that could change that behavior.

955
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 4: So let's say they did do what they the parents

956
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: thought they did. Yeah, the best thing for that kid

957
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 4: is like, all right, let's like get put them in

958
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 4: science camp as a punishment or like like take away

959
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 4: take away, yeah, rehabilitation exact poor children.

960
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of the selection.

961
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is my second am I the a

962
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: whole post and a semi follow up to my first one,

963
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: plus other posts on my account. For those in the

964
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: no here's a quick recap. I twenty three, male, have

965
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: been slowly reconnecting with my parents male and female, both

966
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: fifty four after I was framed by my brother currently

967
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: nineteen mail for stealing from my dad. Since I began

968
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: interacting with them more, we have all, including my brother.

969
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: My parents have undisowned him after I had to vouch

970
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: for him, saying that running away from your mistakes only

971
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: made them worse. Started therapy, and I have debts from

972
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: school paid off.

973
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: Oh op, debt free and then therapy.

974
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: And is seemingly leading he he mentioned to the parents like, hey,

975
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: running away from the like running away from our brother

976
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: is not going.

977
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: To help solve the issue here, which is one hundred

978
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: percent true.

979
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: OP is a thousand times more mature than is the

980
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: OP should be the partial.

981
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: OPE is the parent OP OP for parenthood.

982
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So on my mom's birthday dinner that was

983
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: yesterday evening, I decided to go because they were eating

984
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: at an expensive restaurant and they offered to pay my

985
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: way fully free food sounded good to me. Hey, when

986
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: you offer a twenty three year old good free meal,

987
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: are they'll take it?

988
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: That's right.

989
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: Those that were there were me, my sister, my brother, surprisingly,

990
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: my parents, uncle and his wife from my mom's side,

991
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: both mid forties, and their twins nineteen in male female.

992
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: I've always gotten along with their son, but their daughter,

993
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: who i'll call R, has despised me.

994
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: For as long as I can remember. Let's also put

995
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: her in prison.

996
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: My dad was pulling out his wallet for his ID

997
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: so he could get a drink, and my cousin R said,

998
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 1: in a mocking manner, uh, oh, Opie's dad, hide your wallet.

999
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: You wouldn't want OPE getting in. There is no the

1000
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: childhood drama returns.

1001
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a thief, Adam I'm not a thief, but

1002
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm about to take my name out of your mouth.

1003
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 2: Oh talk that talk.

1004
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: So Sophia really laid it down there.

1005
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: We go, Opie's on the same trink.

1006
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: My name Will Smith.

1007
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: I looked at her, red in the face and embarrassed

1008
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: and along the lines of your girl best friends have

1009
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: to say that to every guy in your friend group

1010
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: because of how you get around.

1011
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: She's a note eater. I hope he said that. He's like,

1012
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: you get around, you're a known cheater. Yeah, you're a

1013
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: known cheater. Let the facts be known in this case. Wow.

1014
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: She got upset and started crying, and my uncle started

1015
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: berating me for talking to his daughter like that. How

1016
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: about your daughter talking to me like a buddy. And

1017
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: then I was still on thin ice for what I

1018
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: was framed for.

1019
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: Wow, Hey, you've been athinized for something that you were

1020
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: proven innocent.

1021
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: You were proved innocent, but only recently you're on thin ice.

1022
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: You were exonerated of all charges, but we're still still bad.

1023
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: I feel like if someone like was arrested for something

1024
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: and then they got proven not guilty and then everyone

1025
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: was like, you're authent ice, They're like, we're you know, what.

1026
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 4: We're just gonna take you back to John that you

1027
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: should go to jail. And you know, it's only recently

1028
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 4: that we changed her mind.

1029
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you a jail grace period.

1030
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: We might just throw you in jail because we don't

1031
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 4: like you.

1032
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: We don't like you. I mean, honestly, that is thin ice.

1033
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 4: If it's just like we don't like you so and

1034
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 4: we already threw you in jail for a while for

1035
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: just like something we did, just because we didn't like you,

1036
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 4: not anything you did wrong.

1037
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: We kind of get used to feeling like you're innocent.

1038
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: It's so new to us, it is. We gotta wait

1039
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: till we really sink our teeth into it. You know,

1040
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: let's put a pin in that and put you in jail.

1041
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: But I got angry, flip them off and left the restaurant.

1042
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: I called my dad and he said that I have

1043
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: nothing to apologize for, but my mom wants me to

1044
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: because she wants to keep peace between her sides of

1045
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: the family and ours.

1046
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 3: Is she gonna do another Facebook.

1047
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: Post great prediction conspiracy theory. My uncle texted me demanding

1048
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: an apology, and cousin R put a post out on Instagram.

1049
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: Or at least they're changing platforms about toxic family members.

1050
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: Very very big sub right there. This is where I

1051
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: come to you again, Reddit. Am I the a hole?

1052
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: And just a little bit more background and just a

1053
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: little bit more context to my background. I was punished

1054
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: and neglected from my mid teenage years up until I

1055
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: moved out because my brother did to me and left

1056
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: me with trauma and.

1057
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: Trust issues from everyone around me.

1058
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm usually levelheaded, but everyone knows what happened and it

1059
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: is a very sensitive subject. Before we get into this story,

1060
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 1: is law, dude, it is this is crazy. I feel

1061
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: like the mom should what about keeping your son? Like

1062
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: you mean, so the mom is like, hey, apologize to

1063
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, your uncle side of the family because we

1064
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: want to keep the peace. What about keeping the peace

1065
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: and keeping your son in your life? Who is literally

1066
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: op is completely in the right And maybe maybe the

1067
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: most you could say is he reacted rudely.

1068
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: That's like the most you have put on.

1069
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 4: You're forgetting one very important thing.

1070
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: Talk to me.

1071
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: The family hates you know what, You're totally right, he

1072
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: was only recently innocent, that he.

1073
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 4: Was only recently and like they've been thinking of him

1074
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 4: as guilty for a long time.

1075
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: It takes a while.

1076
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 4: Like if you think, if you like, if someone says like, hey,

1077
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: I'm a red balloon for years and you're talking to

1078
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 4: them on the phone and it's like a long distance

1079
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: relationship with that red balloon and that this is a

1080
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 4: weird analogy, and then suddenly you see them in person

1081
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 4: and they're actually a blue balloon.

1082
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: I was just talking about gender transitions.

1083
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: Back to politics.

1084
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the job. Sam, I'm just a balloons.

1085
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: I've heard of dogs.

1086
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: To start thinking of a different balloon.

1087
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 4: I was fired by balloon and now, okay, anyway, uh

1088
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 4: over that.

1089
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: We can't always have a classic John analogy.

1090
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it's it's it's.

1091
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: Truly an r and a gift to craft the most

1092
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: elegant analogy.

1093
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 3: I went to LID school. I'm all about metaphors.

1094
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm a dropout. I'm all about metaphors.

1095
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 3: You know.

1096
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: Uh, my ladies and gentlemen, we have more.

1097
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: So Mini update.

1098
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: Just got off the phone with my aunt cousin R's

1099
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: mom and she gave me the most sincere apology that

1100
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: I've received in the past month. And he's been receiving

1101
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: some apologies.

1102
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: She said that she has dealt with R and my

1103
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 3: uncle don't know how.

1104
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: Uh, but R did take down the post, and my

1105
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: uncle did send me a single.

1106
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: Sorry sorry sorry, Tory' that's the k of apologies.

1107
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, Tory s r R wife, you don't even.

1108
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: Get that's all right?

1109
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: U s Ry's business with little characters as possible.

1110
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 4: Just take a little like crying face emoji. Yeah yeah, true,

1111
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 4: that's sorry enough?

1112
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: Right? Is the ant very quickly? Is the aunt's actions

1113
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 3: forgivable of the interaction? At least for the aunt? Can

1114
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 3: we forgive the aunt? I forgive no one? Mm hmm yeah.

1115
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 3: I think everyone in this story is a whole except

1116
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 3: for Ope oh am and the sister. Yes, what do

1117
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: you think? Yeah?

1118
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: I think I mean it is. I will say it

1119
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: was very good of the ant considered and you.

1120
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: Know it's it's it is.

1121
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: I will give recognition to it being like a difficult

1122
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: thing to go against your husband and your daughter like

1123
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: all this stuff.

1124
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so I forgot what the ant did?

1125
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, so I will. I will say I

1126
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: at least give her credit for standing up to them,

1127
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: because she's like she she she I think was exactly

1128
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: correct to me, like, no, you are completely innocent. My

1129
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: daughter is the guilty one, and my husband should also

1130
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: apologize for trying to force you to apologize.

1131
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: I'll forgive the ant you.

1132
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: Need, honestly, Okay, Opie needs someone in his car.

1133
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: Nice.

1134
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I guess, I guess. I guess so well,

1135
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 4: Holly says, divorced this family already. I'm like, is this

1136
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 4: just too much drama to be involved with? I mean, yes,

1137
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 4: you have your aunt who is helping out, but I

1138
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 4: feel like at a certain point it's like, is it

1139
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 4: even worth it to be involved? And just like I

1140
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 4: just want to distance myself from this whole situation.

1141
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: Honestly, that is a great point. The one thing I

1142
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: will say is like Opie is now getting essentially essentially

1143
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: reparations for the wrongdoing that his parents did to him

1144
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: in the past.

1145
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 3: Reparations and run probably.

1146
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, like, as a twenty three year old

1147
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: who had was low key forced to move out at

1148
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: eighteen because he had no support, like this is probably

1149
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: super helpful, yeah, him, and he's kind of like owed something.

1150
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I like maybe things will get better with

1151
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 4: the family with time. Yeah, And you just need to

1152
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: like take a step back.

1153
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me some like like be like, hey, it

1154
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: might even take years. Give me the gifts with no expectations,

1155
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: and that will be a true test. And also I

1156
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with I've already had to deal

1157
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: with this for eight years.

1158
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with any more bs.

1159
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: So if if uncle and R are doing this, don't

1160
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to invite them to your dinner.

1161
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 4: If you care to do like five grand a month. You

1162
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 4: know what, Now we're talking support. Yeah, I am exactly.

1163
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 4: You didn't support me as a child, so I deserve

1164
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 4: child support now that I'm an adult.

1165
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: Back child support. Back child support.

1166
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: That is like probably a literal legal case in the

1167
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: case of like a traditional child support thing.

1168
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we talk about it.

1169
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: We have some relevant comments to discuss this, so commentary,

1170
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: uh info, Okay, So, so you were framed for stealing

1171
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: and now they know it wasn't you or did everyone

1172
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: get over it? And I and was thinking it was you?

1173
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: Why vouch for your brother if this whole situation is

1174
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: still lingering, I literally forgot about that. OPI has vouched

1175
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 1: for the brother. Recently, Opie vouched for the stealing brother

1176
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: because he was like the way to kind of like

1177
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: fix him quote unquote is not by exiling him, but

1178
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: like working on the solution, you know what I mean.

1179
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: Sounds like he still needs to make amends. Your cousin

1180
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: sounds like a piece of work. And while you sunk

1181
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: to her level, she may have deserved it. I don't

1182
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: believe that Ope sunk to her.

1183
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 3: Yes it was.

1184
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: It was a like a clapback, but like but it

1185
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: was a necessary c Yeah. Like op is innocent and

1186
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: they're continuing to torture him after eight years of trauma.

1187
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: Still you uh may find a more mature approach serves

1188
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: you better. Opie vouch for my brother because they were

1189
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: planning and cut him off like they almost did me

1190
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: when I and are now therapist thinks he has serious

1191
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: underlying issues. Everyone thinks I am innocent and stealing.

1192
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 3: Okay, props to op for actually rooting for his brother

1193
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 3: and wanting to improve even after what happened to him

1194
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: because of his brother. OPI, he's the parent. OPI's the

1195
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: parent of the situation, which is so sad, like he's

1196
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: been parentified. It's crazy.

1197
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: Commenter, So why is the uncle making a statement that

1198
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: he knows is untrue. Why did your parents not correct

1199
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: him immediately? Good question, that would have diffused the situation

1200
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: and kept the peace, OPI, I don't know. Sometimes feels

1201
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: like they still see me as the thief, and honestly,

1202
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna end up reverting back to bare minimum contact.

1203
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: A commenter says, So, if your cousin really does know

1204
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: you're innocent, why did she make the remark about the wallet?

1205
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: Are you sure she actually knows the truth, Opie, Yes,

1206
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: she knows the truth. My parents made a public apology

1207
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: on Facebook classic and my entire family reacted to it,

1208
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: including hers, which is just a thumbs up, I guess,

1209
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: like a thumbs up reaction.

1210
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if maybe she doesn't know, I don't know.

1211
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: Commenter says, assuming cousin ar really is a cheater, not

1212
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: the ahole, Opie, she is.

1213
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: She's cheated twice. One of the dudes was in that

1214
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: friend group.

1215
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, we are currently at the precipice of

1216
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: the final update and final relevant comment.

1217
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: Wow, we are, we are. We have finally arrived.

1218
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 4: A long taga is this is a episode?

1219
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: You're so right? Yes, this is going to be a

1220
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: one story episode. A Banger. Dare I say banger episode?

1221
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: Oh yes? Shall we get into it. Let's dive in

1222
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: update about my life.

1223
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: First and foremost, my mom actually straight up apologized to

1224
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: me for everything, from not taking up my side at dinner,

1225
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: for the way I was cheated most of my teenage

1226
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: to adult life, and she ended up telling my.

1227
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: Cousin and uncle off that is what you do.

1228
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: This was during a therapy session and it happened before

1229
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: any of us said anything to start it. My dad

1230
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: apologized to me as well to my siblings for everything.

1231
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: My brother is now going to get some actual help now,

1232
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: as my parents have admitted to prioritizing me and my

1233
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: sister before. This entire ordeal started when I was fifteen

1234
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: in the framing began, he apologized to me for everything

1235
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: and was let back into my parents' house, but has

1236
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: to earn his trust back. I don't really care what

1237
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: he has to do. My contact with him is still

1238
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: going to be very, very limited. Also, in other news,

1239
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: I have a date babe.

1240
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 3: That's right.

1241
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: We met on Tinder about around a little over a

1242
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: week ago and we clicked really well. She lives around

1243
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes from my place, perfect boning distance. That was

1244
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,959
Speaker 1: advice that that was added by yours truly, and we're

1245
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: meeting at a sushi place before I take her to

1246
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: the movies. She wanted to see Killers of the Flower Moon.

1247
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it goes well. Opie os is out with

1248
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: this relevant comment to responding to what I'm not sure,

1249
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Obi says, Oh, I am. I accepted the money, but

1250
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: have only been attending therapy with them, besides the birthday dinner,

1251
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: which I won't attend another event like that for a.

1252
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: While while for a while. Wow. So and here we are.

1253
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: Here, we are at the end of the story, very

1254
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: curious for everyone's takes and everyone currently in the.

1255
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: Shot on the live recording as well. What do we

1256
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: say here?

1257
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: Oh well, let's let's actually go back to the question

1258
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: of this entire episode to wrap things up. In our

1259
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 1: final discussion, how should you deal with stealing between family members?

1260
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: Not like this?

1261
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I think, I mean I think one is

1262
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 4: if you are if someone if you catch someone like stealing,

1263
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 4: I think you first have to try to understand before

1264
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 4: you sentenced, specially a kid, especially a kid.

1265
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: Especially when nothing's actually been Yeah.

1266
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: Well, we actually had a conversation about like values Sophia

1267
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 4: and I about like values and friendship, and it's like, uh,

1268
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 4: the the the example was if you saw a friend

1269
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 4: kicking a homeless person, what would you do? And there

1270
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 4: was someone else in the conversation where it was like

1271
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 4: I would seek to first understand why my friend was

1272
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 4: doing that, and like, obviously you would stop your friend.

1273
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 4: But I think an important thing first too, are important

1274
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: Like second thing after stopping your friend from doing a

1275
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: bad action is to be like why did you do that?

1276
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1277
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 4: And I think one what that can do is maybe

1278
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 4: there is like a reason where it's like that person

1279
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: killed my family or something, or it's like about to

1280
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 4: attack another person. You know, there's there's context around all

1281
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 4: actions and so maybe if they had asked why earlier,

1282
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 4: they would have found the truth earlier, and they if

1283
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: op did actually steal, they would be able to provide

1284
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 4: the help that they needed. And so I think it's

1285
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 4: like really important to ask why when you see someone

1286
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 4: acting in a way that is not good.

1287
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking same point, but slightly different angle or

1288
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: out outcome that comes from that is like and this

1289
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: is what OPI Exactly what OPI was saying with the

1290
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: not cutting off the brother, which is like, maybe there's

1291
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: probably some sort of underlying issue and it could be

1292
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: massively more productive to understand and try to address and

1293
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: fix the issue than possibly cutting them off or something

1294
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: like that, if you are ready to take on that challenge,

1295
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: which in many cases I don't necessarily think you're. Like

1296
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: Ohpi's case, OPI was not obligated to do that. OPI

1297
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: was not obligated to step in and say don't cut

1298
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: him off. He was He's not obligated to do any

1299
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: further stuff after that, which he isn't in this scenario.

1300
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: But it helps you hopefully identify the core issue, which

1301
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: is the first step to being able to possibly solve.

1302
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 4: But it's like, also, do you I think you can

1303
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 4: either solve the issue or step away from the issue,

1304
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 4: Like you always have those two options in any situation.

1305
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 4: So it's like family friendship. Otherwise, if you're willing to

1306
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 4: part from the relationship completely and you don't want to

1307
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 4: solve it, you can do. And so I think, like

1308
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 4: the no contact option is always there even with family

1309
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 4: in like Op's case, Like I feel like op was

1310
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 4: wrongfully accused of stealing, So like that no contact option

1311
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: I think could be taken too.

1312
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, do we think OP made any in all of

1313
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: the moves OP made? Was there any point that there

1314
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: was a misstep or an I stepped in halfway? So

1315
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

1316
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't have full contact.

1317
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: But what do you think I I think not the

1318
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: only thing I think you could say. Well, actually we

1319
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: discussed two things. One we discussed when the parents came

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Speaker 1: to apologize after they finally learned for the first time

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Speaker 1: that it was the brother doing it for eight years.

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01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: He was like, f you, I'm storming out and blocking you.

1323
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: And the question was do you kind of give your

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01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: parents a chance to kind of like as stupid as

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Speaker 1: it kind of sounds, learn what the mistake was, to

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Speaker 1: try and address and fix it kind of like we

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Speaker 1: just said a second ago. And the resolution we came

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Speaker 1: to is that's the hero move, that's the angel move.

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Speaker 2: But you're not the a hole for not wanting.

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Speaker 4: To not doing that, Like it's just I mean, it's

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01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 4: not your responsibility. It's your responsibility, and it's like maybe

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Speaker 4: like not everyone has the strength and space in their

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01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 4: life to take on stuff like that. It's like it's

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01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's not it's not

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01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 4: your burden to bear unless you want to bear it.

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Speaker 1: And an important context here too, I think OPI was

1337
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: kind of like forced into being an adult.

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Speaker 2: Like one thing he said in the beginning.

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Speaker 1: That you weren't here for He's like, oh, I had

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01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: to start, like I just like stashed all of my

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01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: old birthday money. I started doing odd jobs around the

1342
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: neighborhood to get money. Like at fifteen, he was low

1343
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: key kind of like exiled and forced to become an adult.

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01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: So now at like three, he's got like eight years

1345
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: of this, and that's like a lot of trauma and

1346
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: things to deal with, and like letting your family back

1347
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: in when they were the ones who don't could could

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Speaker 1: stop him in his own healing processes.

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Speaker 4: Exactly the idea, you know, you have to fill your

1350
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 4: cup before you can help others fill theirs. Yes, and

1351
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: you know like it, OPI has a lot of stuff

1352
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 4: to deal with, So deal with that first.

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Speaker 1: Kimberly Fine says, only if they've shown that there's a

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01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: slight chance and it won't be to his detriment. So

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01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: basically like, is there any chance uh uh if on

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01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: the question shown chance of improvement, have they shown any

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01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: sort of signs of a chance of improvement and is

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Speaker 1: it not going to be at the victim's detriment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's actually a pretty good qualifier for if

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Speaker 1: you want to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I think overall, Op, he did like

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01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 4: a lot of the right moves.

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Speaker 2: But uh, I think that's probably a rapid dood'll do

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Speaker 2: for this episode.

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Speaker 4: I think so. So if you love us, make sure

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01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 4: subscribe we love you and see it tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives, time

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Speaker 3: for Okop re Lam.

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Speaker 2: I'm accused of rubbing boogers on door.

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: Handles at work, but I'm innocent.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that's what a booger rubb and snot

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Speaker 4: nosed kid would say.

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01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm saying.

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01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: You're just dripping your snot all over the place without

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01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: a care concern in the world.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know where you hide your boogers on

1377
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: the doorknob.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, but actually we know this booger doorknob snotter.

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01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: This story was submitted to our slash Okop show by

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Speaker 1: Icy Stress eight three one nine.

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Speaker 3: I love that Icy Stress. That Icy hot is so

1382
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 3: stressful stress for.

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Speaker 1: Leaving maybe so Thanks Icy for submitting a story, and

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01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: all of you can submit stories too at our slash

1385
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: okop show.

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: Do it immediately please, we want to read them, or

1387
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 3: I will die. I will not. I live off your stories,

1388
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 3: suck the life force from them. Force and background.

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Speaker 1: I twenty one female, worked at a very small T

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Speaker 1: shirt business.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I am the youngest person there.

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Speaker 2: Ever.

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01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: Since I started working, someone has been rubbing some sweet

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01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: sloppy boogers all over the bathroom stalls ew, which is like,

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01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: why now, I have Type one diabetes. So I go

1396
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: to the bathroom quite often and have been accused of

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Speaker 1: being the Boogeyman.

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Speaker 2: That's awful.

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01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 3: That's a funny name, though, boogeyman.

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Speaker 1: Literally because she has used the bathroom because she has

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01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: type one diabetes.

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Speaker 3: And they're just like, it's you.

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01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 4: I mean suspicion. I mean, like, who is spending the

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01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 4: most time in the bathroom?

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01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 3: How long are they.

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01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: Taking a freaking snotty snobber all over all the doorknobs?

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Speaker 3: That's the question.

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01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 3: Maybe under fat you can just.

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01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: Not rocket all over the y like Spider Man spraying

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Speaker 2: his web.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: Because I am the youngest, and because I go to

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01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: the bathroom. So often I'm being labeled.

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01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: As such boogey monster.

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01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: I've tried to explain my case, even clean the stalls

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Speaker 1: before I leave.

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Speaker 4: Geez, see say, if you're cleaning the stalls, I think

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Speaker 4: that's admitting fault.

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01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 3: Interesting, but still to no use.

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: I've been trying to figure out who it is to

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01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: prove my innocence, but no luck yet.

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01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 3: The worst part is that I can hear people calling.

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01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: Me things like Booker, baby, oh no, boogeyman, and snot.

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01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 3: Monster all the time.

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01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: I thought snop muster was pretty funny.

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01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 3: Oh Pee, I feel so bad for you. I need

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01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 3: help clearing my name, but no one believes me.

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01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: Whoever they are, I'm sure they're getting a kick out

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: of not being the boogeyman.

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01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 4: I think there is something you can do that's illegal,

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01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 4: but at least what you will know. Set up a

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01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 4: goat pro in the bathroom. Just leave it running for

1434
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 4: as long as you can, and then get it later

1435
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 4: and point it in the direction of where the snot

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01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 4: is most accumulating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you do it where you can't

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01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: see anyone in that like, like, for instance, the view

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01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: of the stall where it's just on the side you

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01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: see the person like, I've got to be illegal.

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01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 4: Still, yeah, I think putting cameras in the bathroom probably illegal,

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01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 4: But at least you'll know who's done it.

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01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 3: That's right, That's right. You know that feeling inside, feeling inside,

1444
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 3: and that's all that matters, you know.

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01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, you do that, and then you just like

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01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: course them into why you say, I have.

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01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 3: The tapes, I have the video of you being a

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01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 3: booger monster. And then the thing is.

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01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, you could use it as blackmail, but

1450
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 4: I feel like, really what op wants to clear their name?

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01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 3: Which would clear their name? This is what you do?

1452
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 3: I know what you do?

1453
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 4: You take the video, release it anonymously online. Is it

1454
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 4: created like a new like Google account, Email it to

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01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 4: the entire office, Wow, boogey man, and then the title

1456
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: the subject of the email poogeyman cot and then just

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01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 4: the video not me.

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01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 3: Your name maybe not that part.

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: No do that.

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01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: That's the that's the most surefirewam for them to not

1461
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: suspect you.

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: I promise this is good advice. But you know what

1463
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: else is good advice? Sam?

1464
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 4: Anything that you submit to our slash okop show, our subreddit,

1465
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 4: we want to hear those stories.

1466
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 3: So send them in baby today. I fd up. My

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01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: girlfriend dumped me for pretending to be weak. What.

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01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: Yes, this is apparently a phenomena that I was not

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01:08:59,040 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: privy to.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's hear it. But here's what it is.

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01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: So when my girlfriend and I started dating, I discovered

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Speaker 1: early on that she could be quite physical, in the

1473
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: sense that she likes to push, hold.

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01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 3: Or pinch.

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01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: Even bear in mind, she's not actually trying to hurt me,

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01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: she's just being playful with it. I found this adorable

1477
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: and fun, so I played along. And here is the

1478
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: f up. If she pushed me, I would act like

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01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: I have to balance myself, or if the better sofa

1480
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: was nearby, I would fall onto it. If she held me,

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01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: I would pretend it would be difficult for me to

1482
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,799
Speaker 1: break out of her grip.

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01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,799
Speaker 4: Is like feigning a little weakness here, you get the idea. Yeah,

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01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: it's just fun, it's just playing around.

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01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 3: Opie says.

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01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: I always assumed she knew that I was playing along

1487
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: and not actually physically straining myself to compete.

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01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: With her strength. This went on for months.

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01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: One day, we were chilling on the sofa watching a

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01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: show when I realized I was running late to meet

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01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 1: up with some friends. I told her I need to

1492
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: shower and make a move. She decided this was a

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: good time to play fight. She sat on top of

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01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: me and pinned my arms under my knees. I played

1495
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: along and struggled to move her off of me.

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01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 3: A little bit.

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01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: More wrestling took place, with me playing along like I

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01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: do a.

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: Little priskyrisy, you know how it goes.

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01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: Then I told her, hey, I really need to make

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01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: a move and get out of here. She was not

1502
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: done and continued to hold and push me back onto

1503
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: the sofa. Eventually, I decided to win this little fight

1504
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: and get going with my day, so I got her

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01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: onto her back, held her hands near her head, and

1506
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: leaned down to kiss her on the cheeks a few

1507
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: times before letting her know that I am indeed running

1508
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: like it's kind of cute.

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01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 3: That's kind of cute, right, like.

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01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: A cute way to end this little place, Like, hey,

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01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: I do gotta go, so let me do that. She

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01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: tried to move her arms and could not. While I'm struggling,

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01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: she grunted out.

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01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 2: Why are you so strong today?

1515
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 3: Today?

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01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: To that, I laughed f up number two and looked

1517
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 1: at her like she was joking. Her eyes went wide

1518
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: with comprehension and she stopped struggling. You were always this strong,

1519
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: she asked, almost to herself.

1520
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 3: Of this realization, she's like, wait, you were, and this

1521
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 3: is like some worthy of this big revelation, Like bruh.

1522
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 4: I feel like my girlfriends in the past are always

1523
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 4: surprised when I'm like, okay, let me actually use some

1524
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 4: of my strength, They're like, what where was this?

1525
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I've never had that issue. I'll start

1526
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: with like being like oh no, and then I'll be

1527
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: like boom, gotcha.

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01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 4: I usually make it like seem pretty equal, except sometimes.

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01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: You save it for the right occasion.

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01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: Op, then says come on, babe, you really did think

1532
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: we were of equal strength, did you?

1533
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 3: I like the boyfriend, I replied.

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01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: Then I went to take a shower, got ready, and

1535
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: as I was heading out the door, I noticed she

1536
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 1: might have been a little bit glum.

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:41,919
Speaker 2: Me being fully.

1538
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: Aware that I do not comprehend the mystery of female emotions. Facts, bro,

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01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: facts rah. I had no clue why she was upset.

1540
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: At that point, I did all do, I guessed. I

1541
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: gave her a kiss and said I wouldn't be gone

1542
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: for long and then I'll pick up her favorite Chinese

1543
01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: on the way back.

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01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 3: That's a nice move.

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01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: See, I assumed that she was upset about me not

1546
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: spending the afternoon with her. Probably a fair assumption. Yeah,

1547
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: probably worth like sprinkling in a mention like, Hey, I

1548
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: know we won't be able to spend the afternoon together,

1549
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: but I will get your favorite Chinese.

1550
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 3: We'll be back, will hang out tonight, you know what

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01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: I mean? I might have That would have been my

1552
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 3: one little tweek there. Probably to all.

1553
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: That she had no reply ff number three. I should

1554
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: have spent some time talking it through. I instead went

1555
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: on my merry way and had a great effing time

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01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 1: with my friends.

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01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: She spent the next few hours brewing, simmering.

1558
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 4: Thinking about the lies of busy strength, and of course

1559
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 4: completely overthinking it.

1560
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: I come home with the Chinese.

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01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: Food, and as soon as I put it down on

1562
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: the dining table, she sprung out of the corner and

1563
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: attacked me.

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01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 3: Wha.

1565
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: It genuinely surprised me, and I reacted by bear hugging

1566
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: her to my chest.

1567
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 3: Oh what's good, little babying his strength once more?

1568
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I struggle once more?

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01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: Right, Probably not the smartest move She struggled with more

1570
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: force than she normally would, and I just held her.

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01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: I kept asking her what's wrong.

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01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 3: She gritted her teeth and said, you look to me

1573
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: what this is ridiculous?

1574
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. Eventually she stopped trying to fight me,

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01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: and I let her go. She then told me she

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01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: feels like I lied to her about our fights, and

1577
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: that really all the time I was laughing at her

1578
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: in my head as I pretended she was actually winning.

1579
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 3: She is way overthinking this one way overthinking.

1580
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: And also now who's making the assumptions? Yeah, too much

1581
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: assuming is going on over here. I tried to take

1582
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: the conversation seriously, but come on, how the f am

1583
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 1: I supposed to take this seriously?

1584
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 3: Honestly? I agree.

1585
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: So I may have been somewhat mocking, flirting and generally

1586
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: being a butt about the whole thing.

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01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 3: But here's the deal. A week later, she broke up

1588
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 3: with me. She broke up with him about this.

1589
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, FML, that is ridiculous. He should have asked

1590
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: her the question, like, do you think that me like

1591
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: not having strength is like a bad lie?

1592
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 3: It's not a bad lie.

1593
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 4: I can't believe she thought that this dude was weaker

1594
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 4: than her, especially like it seems like he's much larger.

1595
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it's like you really think you're that strong.

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01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: She was flirt fighting, right, She knew that she was

1597
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: flirt fighting, right, Yeah, So how did she not know

1598
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: that he wasn't flirt fighting back?

1599
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,440
Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense. Probably for the best, Opie,

1600
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 4: and he brought it. Yeah, he's being the perfect jem dude,

1601
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 4: So you know what, never lets you down and play

1602
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 4: fights with you and then Dumpsio.

1603
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: Hitting that sweet red subscribe.

1604
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 3: Oh god, I love the way just click clicks, just

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01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 3: hit it, guys, all right, see you next time.

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Speaker 1: S