1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Very welcome you to the OTP, the Official Titans Podcast. Today, 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Titans Radio's draft duo of coach Dave McGinnis and Rhet 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Brian joined me Mike Keith to talk about quarterbacks in 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft. Gentlemen, welcome, Thank you, Mike. 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Good to be here with your right to me with you. Yes, 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: all right, Coach mac. Is this quarterback crop good as 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: it compares to other years? Well, I mean it's a 8 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: good crop, and I think one of the reasons for 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: that not only their ability. Mike, Let's talk about the 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: recognizable names that people understand that have had some production 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: in college that is significant. You've got a national champion 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: in Joe Burrow to a Tongo Valoa, Justin Herbert who's 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: got a huge, huge arm when we watched him. Look 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: at Jacob Eason, the things that he's done up there 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: in the Northwest, and then Jalen Hurts. We all know 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: what he did, you know, not only for Alabama, but 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: then when he transferred you to Oklahoma. So I think 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: it's a good crop. I don't think it compares to 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: the Jim Kelly that group you know that came out 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: of course when they were coming out, Nobody knew that 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: they were going to have the careers that they did have. 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: But this is a very recognizable group and there are 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: some players in this group that will be immediate starters 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. All right, So, rhet, let 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: me ask you this, and then coach you follow. Do 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: you think these quarterbacks may not end up being as 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: highly thought of because of the number and talent available 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: in terms of the veteran quarterbacks who were out there. 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: And I understand why you're asking that, because on the 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: free agent market, Philip Rivers, Tom Brady, Ryan Tannehill, Marcus Mariota, 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, Teddy Bridgewater, to name just a few. I 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: get that, but no, because of the philosophies on teams 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: wanting to mold their on quarterback to whatever it is 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: they're doing offensively. And here's the biggest one. Angel quarterbacks 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 1: come into Premier this league either have one or you don't. 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: You draft one, and you hit on that pick, you're 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: on the cheap for the next three four years. That's 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: a very very good point. But this is the biggest 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: quarterback group, and let's say the quarterback availability in the 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: National Football League of viable quarterbacks that have started, we see. 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: We saw the value when we brought an eighty eight 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: game starter in here to Nashville to back up a 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: first round pick, and we saw the difference that that makes. 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: People are going to understand the difference that that makes. 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: If they're in immediate need of a quarterback. This group 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: will be able to somebody as the free agent group. 47 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: Somebody's going to take them. That will not preclude them 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: from drafting one of these other ones that we've talked about. 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: It might preclude them from drafting them later. All right, coachback, 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: you have always said that the quarterback draft is different 51 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: from the regular draft. Please explain what you mean by 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: because if you don't have a quarterback in the National 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: Football League, all you essentially have is a highly paid 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: rugby team. That's all you have because you cannot You're 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: not going to advance without a quarterback that's viable. We 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: saw what happened a productive quarterback. Not that Marcus Mariote 57 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: is not a viable quarterback, but he wasn't producing at 58 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: that point at point in time, and when Ryan Tannehill 59 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: came in Mike he did produce, and we saw the 60 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: difference that that make so you have to have a 61 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: producing quarterback, and so if you do, if you do, 62 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: you are willing to do anything that it takes. If 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: you're a quarterback hungry club, you will move up in 64 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: the draft and bypass other players that are rated quote higher, 65 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: as far as just overall across the board, horizontally, horizonally 66 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: across the board. They are rated higher because you have 67 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: to have a quarterback in the National Football League. There 68 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: are some positions you can get by without. There are 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: some positions you can work around you cannot work around 70 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: for seventeen weeks in the National Football League without a quarterback. 71 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: So bottom line is, if a team has a board 72 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: stacked one to whatever, they will take a quarterback over 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: a prospect they have rated more highly because they have 74 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: to have a quarter That's one hundred percent true. I've 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: seen it happen every year that I've been in the 76 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: National Football League and involved in the draft, which has 77 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: been a long time. All right, Rett Brian, how many 78 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks go in the first round on April the twenty 79 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: thirds As we sit here in the first part of 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: March four, Joe Burrow lsu to a tongavaloa Alabama justin 81 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: Herbert Oregon, and I think the fourth in that group 82 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: is Utah States Jordan Love, who a nice week at Combine. 83 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: What do you like about Jordan Love Dave McGinnis. He's 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: got the physical attributes in the traits. He throws a 85 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: real pretty ball, he really does. And when you watch 86 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: what they did, you know at Utah States, sometimes it 87 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: didn't quite relate to what he's going to do. But 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: he's got the physical traits. Don't think that he's not 89 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: He's not a he's not a runner. He's not a 90 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: guy that's going to get out there and just run, 91 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: but he can maneuver the pocket. He has got so 92 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: many recognizable traits that you look at that you know 93 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: that you can develop. This to me and I agree 94 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: with Rett, if somebody is a quarterback hungry club, this 95 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: is one guy that you would take after the top three. 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Mikey has athletic skills galore. While he didn't answer all 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: the questions at the Combine in those drills about accuracy 98 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: or decision making because that's only in game situation specific stuff, 99 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: he's got the measurables. With the athletic part of it 100 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: reminds us a lot of a Colin Kaepernick when he 101 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: came out. All right, let me ask you this. There 102 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: have been some comparisons made in terms of his athletic 103 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: skills and his playmaking skills to the type of game 104 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes plays. Is that a crazy comparison? Well, 105 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: he's not Patrick Mahomes. Okay, he's not. I vetted Patrick 106 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Mahomes when he was coming out. And when I compare quarterbacks, Mike, 107 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, because I've got a pretty good body of 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: work to refer back to. Sure, I don't compare quarterbacks 109 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: to what the quarterback they're compared to in the National 110 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: Football League is doing now, because that's not fair. Because 111 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that now have had the training in the 112 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: National Football League that these kids haven't, I compare them 113 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: to what they were coming out. So I'll go back 114 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: and get my reports and hold him side by side, 115 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: and look, he's he's he's close, but he's not Patrick 116 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: Mahomes in my opinion. All Right, what do you like 117 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: about Justin Herbert from Oregon and Dave McGinnis. How high 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: can he go in the first round? I'll think you'll 119 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: go the fifth round in Miami. I think that's his 120 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: I think fifth pick, Yes, the fifth pick. The fifth pick, 121 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: I think is that that to me is about his 122 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: his ceiling and this thing. He's got a really good arm. 123 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: He's got a huge arm. He's got a huge arm. 124 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got the height. And some people and again, 125 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, when you're at the when you're at the combine, 126 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: and not only at the combine, Mike, but you're listening 127 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: to all the talk, some people try to take good 128 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: attributes and try to ding holes in him. Now, some 129 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: people are saying he might be too tall, well, you know, 130 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: or it's just like somebody saying somebody's too fast, you know, 131 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: as a receiver, because they can't break down and run around. 132 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: He's got the requisite skills. He's gonna have to be developed. 133 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: But I think that that he could be a target 134 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins as high as the fifth pick. I'd 135 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: say the Chargers at six because currently on their roster 136 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, the veteran last year's fifth round pick, Easton Stick. 137 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: They've made it clear that they're parting ways with Philip 138 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: Rivers and that's a team obviously that's gonna need something there. Yeah, 139 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: he could certainly go to Miami, but I think the 140 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: Chargers at six, he's at least a top fifteen pick, 141 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: because if he doesn't go that high, he could go 142 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: to seven at Carolina if they decide to do something 143 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: with cam Newton. Newton, thank you, I knew it. You 144 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: to Indy? All right? Let me stop you there. Let 145 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: me stop you there, because that was gonna be my 146 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: next question. What are the chances that Justin Herbert gets 147 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: to thirteen at Indy because he is a very popular 148 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: mock pick to the Colts as their next quarterback. What 149 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: do you think the chances are? I think it's very good. 150 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: You think he could make it, And I'd tell you 151 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: what I think the chances may be better of is 152 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: that Tampa leapfrogs them at fourteen to get him a 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: little earlier. I don't think he makes it that far. 154 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: I just don't think he makes it that far. Because 155 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: of your theory about quarter backs and what the quarterback 156 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: draft is like compared to the rest of the draft. Absolutely, 157 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: I think it hinges though on whether the one thing 158 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: that people aren't talking about is whether the Detroit Lions 159 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: at three will need a quarterback. How bad is Matthew 160 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: Stafford's back or do they go ahead and take to 161 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: a Tongo Valoa and basically red shirt him, knowing that 162 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's cap number comes way down after next year, 163 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: way the his contracts. I think I hit this year's 164 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: what like twenty three million or something like that. All 165 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: I think it's actually even more than that. So the 166 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: question becomes, do they do that or does your buddy 167 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: Riverboat Ron Rivera in Washington say, you know what, Haskins 168 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: is not our answer. We're gonna go ahead and take 169 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback here and pass Chase Young. You know we 170 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: had Ron on one or four five at the combine, right, 171 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: I asked him. He wouldn't tell me. What a tease? Huh, Yeah, 172 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: he's got the number two pick. We'll see, all right, 173 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: So Rhett, you go first, and then coach Mack, I'm fascinated. 174 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: You have four quarterbacks in your first round. Washington's Jacob 175 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: Eason is not on your list of first rounders. Why why? Well, 176 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: first of all, huge arm, big, prototypical size quarterback kid, 177 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: former starter at Georgia gets hurt, transfers Jake from comes in. 178 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: But the reports out of Indianapolis as that the interview 179 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: process did not go well. He was lackadaisical in his approach. 180 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: He uh didn't. He was just kind of resting on 181 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: his laurels and kind of just I don't know. He 182 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: thinks he's being too comfortable, he thinks he's being recruited, 183 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: rather than didn't understand. The thing I've researched is that 184 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: he did not understand the magnitude of this job interview. 185 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: That's hard to believe. Well, and again I don't know 186 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: those reports, and again they're gonna come out, and you know, 187 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: I've been on the inside this. Unless you've really faced 188 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: a guy up and talk to him, you really don't know. 189 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: So those things you have to take. You have to 190 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: take a little bit with a grain of salt with 191 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: what goes on my personal opinion just you know, I'm 192 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: talking about just film evaluation. The reason he's not in 193 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: the top group in my opinion is two things. Accuracy 194 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: and decision making. Those two things to me when I 195 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: watched tape and look at him, He's got a big arm, 196 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: but he's not accurate. He was not accurate in the 197 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: drills at Indy on the floor. You know, he had 198 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: a lot of he had some misthrows there. And his 199 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: decision making that you can see on tape the rest 200 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: of this stuff. That's the part I miss about not 201 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: coaching anymore, is because I can't get in there and 202 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: vent these people and sit there and find out so 203 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: if I would know exactly if I was sitting in 204 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: that room, you know, and some of those reports, you 205 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: just you've got to take him with a grain of 206 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: salt because at this time of year, be very careful 207 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: to coach Mack's point, more of a first read guy, 208 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: not a first second, third read guy, and make a 209 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: throw in terms of the decision making and the accuracy 210 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: part and the consistency. He's more of a first That's 211 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: supposedly why Georgia stuck with Jacob From Coach Mack Jake 212 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: from what does he bring to the table and does 213 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: he figure to be a Day two pick in your opinion? 214 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: He's a Day two pick in my opinion, but just 215 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: on the opposite side of the spectrum from what we've 216 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: just been talking about. That's why Jake From ran off 217 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: some starters that went onto the NC double and started 218 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: in other places, two of them in particular. And here's 219 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: why he's accurate, He's dependable, he's an excellent decision maker. 220 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: He does not get rattled, he doesn't have great arm strength, 221 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: but he's a distributor of the football. And again I'm 222 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: not comparing him to this person because I don't do 223 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: comparisons to people that were in the National Football League. 224 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: But if you if you'll remember, that was the exact 225 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: pinpoint description of Joe Montana when he came out of 226 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Not arm strength, but smart, dependable, unflappable, and 227 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: was very very accurate. Joe Montana pretty good third round pick, 228 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: pretty great third round pick. All right. Rhet Brian is 229 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: oak Olhoma is Jalen Hurts almost a wild card in 230 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: this quarterback draft. He absolutely is. And I think he 231 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: was a guy that had something to prove going into 232 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: Indianapolis last week because he's kind of the forgotten guy 233 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: behind the tier of quarterbacks that we've been talking about. 234 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: Measured in at six one, two hundred twenty two pounds, 235 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: hands ninety three quarter inches, ran a four to five 236 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: four forty, fastest among quarterbacks. He is a leader, He 237 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: is a team first guy. I mean, everyone knows what 238 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: he did when he left Alabama and how he handled 239 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: it so well, being losing his starting job to two 240 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: a tongue Valoa and then going to Oklahoma and having 241 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: a nice year there. I think he showed the arm 242 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: strength and accuracy improvement in those drills in Indianapolis some 243 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: of the things that he was kind of knocked on about. 244 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing I like about him is Mike. 245 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: He's a winner. He knows how to win a football game. 246 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: And when you you know kind of cement that with 247 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: being a leader and a team first guy. Gotta look 248 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: at a guy like that. Oh, I think he's I 249 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: think he's so accurate. On him, I mean when he 250 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: watched his workout, he exceeded what people thought he was 251 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: going to do at the combined workout. Because when I'm 252 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: up there, you know, and I was up there for 253 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: every minute of every workout in Lucas Oil and sitting 254 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: around the quarterback coaches that I was sitting around during 255 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: that he did better than they thought, just in the 256 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: fundamental throwing, his accuracy as Ret said, and he's an athlete, 257 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: and to me, it just the consensus of sitting around 258 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: and talking with the quarterback coaches, the quarterback coaches that 259 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: I talked with up there, this is a perfect guy 260 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: to bring in. This is a perfect backup quarterback immediately 261 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: in his career in the National Football League, because he 262 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: brings that element of athleticism that sometimes if you have 263 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: to put him into a ballgame, he can create plays. 264 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: And plus rest got a very good point and people 265 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: brought that up too. He is a guy. Some guys 266 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: just have it. As far as being able to move 267 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: a team, he can do that. On an earlier edition 268 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: of the OTP, Coach Mac, you mentioned a quarterback named 269 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: Steve Montez from Colorado. So who exactly is Steve Montez 270 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: and where do you think he figures to be selected? 271 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: Why do you like him? Well? I like him because 272 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: I mean he's intriguing to me to look at him. 273 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: Going to my notebook here, he's six four, two hundred 274 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: and thirty one pounds. He ran a four six to 275 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: eight forty, got a thirty three vertical jump, nine to 276 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: seven broad So what I'm saying with these numbers for 277 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: our listeners, he's got athletic ability. Okay, much like Patrick Mahomes. 278 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean, his dad was a state champion baseball and 279 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: basketball player. His dad played at a quarterback at Western 280 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: New Mexico and then at Texas Tech. His dad played 281 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: for the Raiders at his mother. His mother, whose name 282 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: is Mindy, was a star volleyball player. She really was. 283 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: So he's got some athletic ability you know that he inherited. 284 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: And when he left Colorado with nine thousand, five hundred 285 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: and sixty nine yards passing, he's a He was a 286 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: three sport athlete at Dell Valley High School, which is 287 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: just right outside it's a suburb of Boston, right outside 288 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: of a round Rock, Texas. This guy is a high 289 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: character guy. He's got a thickly built lower. To me, 290 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: he's got a strong arm. Now, the issues with him, 291 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: he's got an elongated delivery. You're gonna have to get 292 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: that out of him. And he's not a ready made product. 293 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: But he's got enough of requisite physical skills and then 294 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: he's got production you know in collegiately that you can 295 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: look at and at six four, two hundred and thirty 296 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: one pounds with that type of developmental characteristics, that's why 297 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: he intrigues me. To me, he will be a second 298 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: day guy to somebody. Really Yeah wow, Okay. Rhet James 299 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Morgan from Florida International did well at the Combine. He's 300 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: a guy that you mentioned last week on the OTP. 301 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: Why is James Morgan a prospect to watch? He is 302 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: prototypical size quarterback six four two twenty nine, hands plenty 303 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: big nine and six eighth inches, arms thirty three and 304 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: three eighths, wingspan seventy nine inches. Jim rat leader, team guy, 305 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Wisconsin native over seven thousand yards and over 306 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: seventy touchdowns thrown in high school. Wore Brett Farres number four, 307 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: so he's beloved up there. To say Green Bay is 308 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: a little interested probably an understatement. Bowling Green is where 309 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: he started his collegiate career playing for Dino Babers. Babers 310 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: gets the job at Syracuse and so they bring in 311 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: Mike Jinks from Texas Tech. New offense didn't fit. The 312 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: deal wasn't the most amicable of partings, but Jinks admired 313 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: him and liked him so much from being a team 314 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: leader and a responsible person. He let him use Bowling 315 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: Green's facilities until he landed at Florida International, where he 316 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: was a two year starter. Had great showing there, had 317 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: a good showing at the Combine last week. Showed the 318 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: arm strength he can throw it, and he's drawing some 319 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: comparisons to Joe Flacco because of his size and his 320 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: arm strength. He's one to watch. Green Bay's interested in Tampa, Chicago, Indian, 321 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: a host of other teams. Is there a quarterback we 322 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: have not mentioned who could sneak up the charts leading 323 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: up to the draft and be taken more highly than 324 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: what we think he will or where we think he 325 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: will be taken? Right now, coach go first look. First 326 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: of all, when you talk about quarterback sneaking up the charts, 327 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: you just you know, you used to ask me about Montez. 328 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: You know, I said he is a possible second day 329 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: but I mean he's definitely a third day guy. So 330 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: depends on who people want to do and where they 331 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: want to go. As far as the quarterback draft, going 332 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: back to your first question when we started this broadcast, 333 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: you said, why is a quarterback draft different than everybody else? 334 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: And so if somebody it doesn't surprise me any ever, 335 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: when a quarterback is drafted before we think he's going 336 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: to be drafted, and that happens in draft rooms, Mike, 337 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: not just us sitting here. All the years that I coached, 338 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: it always happened. People would go wow, and I think 339 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: the guy that he talked about. James Morgan is the 340 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: prime suspect in this. Do you have another one? Another one? 341 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: Maybe Anthony Gordon from Washington State, Okay, ran the air 342 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: raid offense with he transfer in from somewhere else. You know, 343 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: I'd have to check off. That's what it seems like 344 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: everybody does or dead at Washington. Here's what's gonna happen 345 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: now now now instead of Washington State, because Leech is 346 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: left right now, we're going to see that in the 347 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: Southeastern Conferences to another state, Mississippi, Mississippi State. There will 348 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: be quarterbacks transferring in there well, especially if the NC 349 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: Double A passes the one time free transfer rule that 350 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: the ACC and the Big Ten are both supporting right now. 351 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: If that happens, the quarterback thing gets a lot more 352 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: interesting because it doesn't have to be graduate transfers. It 353 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: could be anybody. So that's a great point, Mike, So 354 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: tell me about the Gordon kid. I don't have as 355 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: much on him. He's one that I again, it's a 356 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: middle round prospect that I'm working on, but he's one 357 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: I just you know, happened to think of. But you know, 358 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: initially you said we haven't mentioned but I went with 359 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: you know, my answer was originally some guys we have mentioned, 360 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: I think Hurts as a guy that can rise. Jordan 361 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: loves a guy is gonna rise in day one just 362 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: because of what Coach Max's been talking about with it 363 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: being quarterback draft different from the rest. All right, So 364 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: last point rhet Brian first, Then Dave McGinnis. If you're 365 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: gonna draft a quarterback to red shirt, I'm not gonna 366 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: have to sit out all of twenty twenty to learn 367 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: the game and the hopes that eventually he could be 368 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: your guy. Who would you take? Well, I mean the 369 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: James Morgan kid is is a perfect example of that. 370 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give you one a different one. Wow, 371 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: And this guy he took things seriously in terms of 372 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: his appearance and a job interview. And that's Cole McDonald 373 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: from Hawaii. Had dreadlocks now to his waist as as 374 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: a big, tall white dude, right and just that whole 375 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: surfer mentality. He had a haircut, shaved up, ready to go. 376 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: He wants a job. Eight thousand plus yards and seventy 377 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: touchdowns in two seasons with Hawaii ran a four five 378 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: eight forty thirty six inch vertical leap broad jump at 379 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: ten to one. He's gonna He's something I think got 380 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: some people's attention just because of the position and he plays. 381 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: But I'm talking later rounds flyer kind of guy. Late 382 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: day three. Probably you didn't specify late day you know, 383 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: wherever you want to take the guy I would take 384 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: to put on my team and to develop, because I 385 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: know there's a lot there is. Jake From. He's a leader. 386 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: This guy, this kid's a leader. He's a quarterback in 387 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: the National Football League. He's better think about case Keenum's 388 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: background when case Keenum came out of the University of 389 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: Houston as the all time leading NCUBAA thrower, and look 390 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: at the money that case Keenum has made in this league, 391 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, being a backup and then when he got 392 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: a chance to be a viable starter. Jake From's my guy, 393 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: you know. And another thing I like about Jake From 394 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: is much like Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson in the state 395 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: of Georgia had played a ton of football when he 396 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: went to Clemson. He goes to Clemson, he plays a 397 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: ton of football, comes to the National Football League. He's 398 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: got a lot of reps. Jake from has had a 399 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: lot of wrestler in high school in the state of Georgia, 400 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: which is great ball, and then in the Southeastern Conference 401 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: as well. You love those guys who've played a lot 402 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, Yeah, you do. And just I mean to me, 403 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: he fit the mold of what you were asking there 404 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: because he's not gonna You're not bringing him in to 405 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: save your franchise, but you you're bringing him in to 406 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: might be able to guide your franchise after he's been 407 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: simmered a little bit. Good one, good stuff on the quarterbacks. 408 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna do a defensive position next. 409 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: Which one do you want to do? I know what 410 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: htt wants to do and I'm not gonna answer for 411 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: rhet I want to talk about corners cornerbacks. Where does 412 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: ht Brian want to go? Well, I mean, we can 413 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: go edge rushers and we can go into your defensive 414 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: lineman whatever. Oh, we're going corners. So because Coach Max said, 415 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: so hey, that'll be one of our next Titans Radio 416 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: podcasts with Titans Radio's Draft duo, the OTP, the Official 417 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: Titans Podcast for Rhett Brian For Dave McGinnis, I might 418 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: keep thanking you for listening to the OTC