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Speaker 1: hate starting a Friday afternoon like this. We got horrible

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Speaker 1: news to report at the top of the hour today

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Speaker 1: five people at least are dead shooting. Suspect is in

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Speaker 1: according to witnesses. Now, the t s A said there

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Speaker 1: was another active shooter at the airport. All the terminals

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Speaker 1: the update is they suspect an active shooter is still

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Speaker 1: The suspect in the first shooting was identified as Esteban Santiago,

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Speaker 1: Eight people rushed to the hospitals that Broward County sheriff said.

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Speaker 1: The cities mayor said that there was only one shooter

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Speaker 1: involved in the first incident. You know, it seems very

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Speaker 1: and um anyway, one witness said, John Schleischer told Fox

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Speaker 1: one witness telling CBS News, we had my friend Ari

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Speaker 1: The sad thing about all of this, whenever we report

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Speaker 1: President elect Trump tweeted out monitoring this terrible situation. Florida

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Speaker 1: the flight, landed at FLL, got off the flight at FLL,

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Speaker 1: went to claim his tag which contained his weapon. He

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Speaker 1: took his weapon, according to multiple reports, with him into

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Speaker 1: the bathroom, loaded it in the bathroom, and that's when

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Speaker 1: he came out and started shooting again and again and again.

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Speaker 1: And remember our witness, Mr Slisher. Mr Slisher was telling

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Speaker 1: us all about this just a moment ago. Listen here

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Speaker 1: to be with anyone. Did he say anything. He did

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Speaker 1: not say a word, and he was not with anyone

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Speaker 1: that I saw. He was actually standing in the middle

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Speaker 1: of kind of a hallway that runs along all of

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Speaker 1: the baggage claim areas, and he must have been in

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Speaker 1: front of, like between baggage claimed one and two, firing

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Speaker 1: into everybody. That was a baggage claimed three, which was

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Speaker 1: the one that we were at. A man in a

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Speaker 1: Star Wars T shirt pulls out a weapon and starts firing,

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Speaker 1: unloads the weapon, and and and reloads it and fires again. Yes,

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Speaker 1: did you what happened after that? We understand he's now

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Speaker 1: in custody. I don't know if you saw that part. No,

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Speaker 1: we I I stayed down and my wife and my

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Speaker 1: mother in law traveling with me. We're on vacation. The

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Speaker 1: first day of our vacation, and we stayed down until

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Speaker 1: until we saw a policemen come finally and said that,

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Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have to to stay down, but

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Speaker 1: we should stay in that area. My wife took a

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Speaker 1: sweather from my mother in law and applied break pressure

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Speaker 1: to the gentleman that was right next to us. He'd

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Speaker 1: been shot in the head. All the people seemed to

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Speaker 1: be shot in the head and um. He told her

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Speaker 1: that he had was n cumadin and she held the

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Speaker 1: presstaurant and when the ambulance, when the ambulances finally arrived. Uh,

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Speaker 1: when they took him out, he was still living. We

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Speaker 1: checked the The man next to him had no vital signs.

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Speaker 1: He was gone. There been towards their shots fired in

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Speaker 1: the garage, and they're locking us stay on in. They

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Speaker 1: said that they think somebody's in a garage right now.

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Speaker 1: They just said that second and the phone we're getting

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Speaker 1: They told everybody got on the floor. Get Michelle, get down.

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Speaker 1: They told everyone to get down. Oh oh god, everybody's

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Speaker 1: laying down on the floor between the carousels. We see

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Speaker 1: authorities running in that direction. And there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: activity outside. John, what are you seeing nothing. We're down,

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Speaker 1: We're down on the ground. Stay down. They said, there's

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Speaker 1: something going on outside in the garage. Well, it has

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Speaker 1: been our experience in the aftermath of such things. They're

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Speaker 1: often scarce, and we we can hope for now that

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Speaker 1: that that this is an inaccurate report, and that you know,

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Speaker 1: with tensions high, that that's our hope. Anyway, John, how

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Speaker 1: are you and your wife. We're not good. I think

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Speaker 1: friend shots still and this doesn't help. We thought the

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Speaker 1: scene was secure. People are crying out, people are scared

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Speaker 1: to death. Well, calm is the calm is the savior

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Speaker 1: of the day. Calm and keeping your head. You have

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Speaker 1: such remarkable composure, John, and that that sort of thing

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Speaker 1: is invaluable at a moment like this. Authorities are over

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Speaker 1: that airport and if there's a there's a problem, they'll

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Speaker 1: fix it. Oh, they're telling everybody getting way down. There

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Speaker 1: are more shots have been fired in the parking garage.

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Speaker 1: Is it a handful of you there? Is it dozens

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Speaker 1: of you there? Oh, there's over a hundred people. At

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Speaker 1: least they kept us. They wouldn't let us. We didn't

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Speaker 1: we couldn't leave. We didn't have our baggage. But they

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Speaker 1: they have us roped off. They're searching, people laying down,

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Speaker 1: people are covered with blood. I'm looking around it. I

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Speaker 1: mean there are people that were helping people and olden people.

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Speaker 1: They just need to get us out of here. This

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Speaker 1: is awful. That was my colleague Chep Smith from a

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Speaker 1: little earlier today. If you're just joining us now, that

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Speaker 1: was the about forty minutes ago. That was the report

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Speaker 1: of the second shooter in the garage or in a

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Speaker 1: terminal nearby, but that was after the first shooter was

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Speaker 1: already put was already in custody. Now this is at

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Speaker 1: the Fort Lauderdale Hollywood Airport, and this gunman in particular,

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Speaker 1: we now know have more details for you county officials

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Speaker 1: saying that the airport shooter and I've done this myself.

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Speaker 1: Actually you can check out weapon get on a commercial

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Speaker 1: airlines if you have a license, and not only the

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Speaker 1: state you're leaving from, but going to and he had

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Speaker 1: checked this weapon, had apparently a military identification with him,

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Speaker 1: got the checked weapon, went into a bathroom, came out

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Speaker 1: and started shooting and didn't say a word anyway. That

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Speaker 1: Chip lamarca Brown County Commissioner, was briefed on the shoot

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Speaker 1: ing by the Broward County Sheriff's office, And we also

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Speaker 1: just heard from as well, saying that the shooter was

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Speaker 1: a passenger in this Canadian flight and had checked that gun.

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Speaker 1: Then he went to the bathroom after claiming his bag

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Speaker 1: and then loaded it and came out shooting. And then

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Speaker 1: as soon as that happened, then a second shooting or

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Speaker 1: a second shooter is believed to be inside a garage.

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Speaker 1: That person has not been detained as of now. That's

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Speaker 1: what we know, So there's still an ongoing investigation into

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Speaker 1: what was going on there. We know at least five

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Speaker 1: people are dead. We know that most of the shots

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Speaker 1: were to the head, as this eyewitness described, and on

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Speaker 1: top of that, we know that at least eight to

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Speaker 1: nine other people injured, maybe more. We don't know the

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Speaker 1: answer at this time. Now, you did hear that one

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Speaker 1: eye witness talking about one of the people that were

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Speaker 1: shot and his wife was putting pressure on the wound.

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Speaker 1: Apparently that victim was on koumadin. That's not a good

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Speaker 1: situation for somebody on koumadin, which is a blood thinner,

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Speaker 1: which means if you bleed, you're gonna bleed much heavy,

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Speaker 1: much but much more. Um, it'll be much heavier bleed

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Speaker 1: because it thins the blood. That means more blood is

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Speaker 1: going to come out an expedited basis. Now, the Florida

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Speaker 1: Senator Ben Nelson identified the shooter as Esteban Santiago and um. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: the New York Daily News is now reporting this guy

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Speaker 1: that we just heard this eyewitness on what my colleague

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Speaker 1: Chep Smitch on Schleicler, saying that this guy was wearing

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Speaker 1: a Star Wars shirt just randomly firing at anybody in

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Speaker 1: the area. Bill Nelson, Senator Nelson told the network that

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Speaker 1: the suspect's name is Esteban Santiago. He was found with

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Speaker 1: a military I D. Not clear if the i D

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Speaker 1: belonged to him anyway. According to eyewitnesses, he just silently

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Speaker 1: walked through, went through multiple magazine, ran out of bullets,

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Speaker 1: and then sat on the ground waiting for police to

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Speaker 1: arrest him. There's some unconfirmed videos of the scene showing

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Speaker 1: victim lying on the floor and baggage. Claim you don't

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Speaker 1: you don't even want to see this anyway. We'll have

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Speaker 1: more on this at the top of the next hour

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Speaker 1: if you want to be uh on the show. By

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Speaker 1: the way, we might be checking in with some witnesses

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Speaker 1: ourselves as the program unfolds here, but we'll come back

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Speaker 1: and we'll have the very latest at the top of

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Speaker 1: the next hour. One, Sean, we also have some new

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Speaker 1: news also. Donald Trump in fact had been briefed on

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Speaker 1: this intelligence briefing, and we'll give you his reaction to

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Speaker 1: that coming up. Breaking news now here. Sean Hannity. Alright,

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Speaker 1: our to Sean Hannity Show. We have the very latest information.

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Speaker 1: The shooting is at Fort Lauderdale Hollywood International Airport starting

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Speaker 1: about one o'clock this afternoon. Just there's some side notes.

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Speaker 1: The airport has closed people. They're advised to shelter in place.

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Speaker 1: Incoming flights more than fifty miles away diverted to other airports.

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Speaker 1: Some two thousand flights as of now have been diverted

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Speaker 1: or delayed or actually canceled. Five people are now dead.

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Speaker 1: Was in the baggage claim area in terminal two. We

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Speaker 1: know that eight people were transported to local hospitals with injuries,

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Speaker 1: and the shootings have been reported in multiple areas, but

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Speaker 1: the Sheriff, uh Scott Israel said only the only shooting

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Speaker 1: has known so far. We're in terminal to male. Suspect

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Speaker 1: actually was sent a picture by a really good friend

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Speaker 1: of mine. I have a picture of the suspect on

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Speaker 1: my phone right now being arrested. Anyway, it was what

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Speaker 1: we know about him at this point, It looks like

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Speaker 1: he acted alone, according to Sheriff Israel. We know Senator

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Speaker 1: Ben Nelson identified the suspect as Esteban Santiago, who was

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Speaker 1: carrying military identification. According to information that the senator received

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Speaker 1: from the Transportation Security Administration. We know the Broward Commissioner,

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Speaker 1: Chip Lamarca tweeted the shooter was a passenger on this

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Speaker 1: Canadian flight. He had a gun checked in, which is

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Speaker 1: legal to do. He claimed his bag, took the gun

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Speaker 1: from baggage, went to a bathroom, loaded it without saying

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Speaker 1: a word, came out shooting. Most people, according to eyewitnesses,

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Speaker 1: were actually shot in the head. All police agencies in

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Speaker 1: Broward County were asked to send units to the airport immediately.

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Speaker 1: Governor Rick Scott is on his way to the airport now.

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Speaker 1: Even as we speak, President Elect Trump is being kept

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Speaker 1: up to uh speed on the situation as well. And

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Speaker 1: on top of that, we know that a witness told

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Speaker 1: ABC News that a man with a gun shouted I'm

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Speaker 1: not Jewish, I'm not Jewish before he started shooting. That's

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Speaker 1: the only indication we really have of any motivation at

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Speaker 1: this particular point in time. I'm not sure what to

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Speaker 1: make of that. We know Ari Fleischer, our good friend,

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Speaker 1: was at the airport. He said, I'm at Fort Lauderdale Airport.

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Speaker 1: Shots have been fired. Everybody's running I think we've heard

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Speaker 1: from others that he's okay, but he's not doing interviews.

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Speaker 1: Linda talk to him. Donald Trump tweeted out monitoring the

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Speaker 1: terrible situation in Florida. Just spoke to Governor Scott. Our

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Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers are with all police stay safe. Federal

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Speaker 1: officials told ABC that all departures and arrivals have currently

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Speaker 1: been suspended and that is the very latest that we

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Speaker 1: have on the ground. Uh. This was an interview that

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Speaker 1: took place about an hour ago on the Fox News

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Speaker 1: channel with my colleague Shepherd Smith. This was an eyewitnessed

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Speaker 1: to the shooting. He did not say a word, and

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Speaker 1: he was not with anyone that I saw. He was

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Speaker 1: actually standing in the middle of kind of a hallway

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Speaker 1: that runs along all of the baggage claim areas, and

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Speaker 1: he must have been in front of, like between baggage

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Speaker 1: claim one and two, firing into everybody that was a

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Speaker 1: baggage claim three, which was the one that we were

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Speaker 1: at now. Sheriff Israel gave a press or at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the last half hour, and this is what

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Speaker 1: he had to say. We have, uh the shooter in custody. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's uh unharmed. No law enforcement fired any shots. The

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Speaker 1: subject is being interviewed by a team of FBI agents

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Speaker 1: and Broward Sheriff's Office homicide detectives. There's been incredible cohesiveness

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Speaker 1: and cooperation between the Broward Sheriff's Office, the FBI, FDLI,

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Speaker 1: and all the local law enforcement ATATIS. Now, I have

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Speaker 1: a picture that was sent to me of a man

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Speaker 1: being dragged off from the airport area. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say what the sources. It's a very good close

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Speaker 1: friend of mine. It was not Ari Fleischer, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because I mentioned he was there, but um, the man

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Speaker 1: looks maybe five ten eleven, white male, somewhat scraggly, of

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a beard, blue shirt and two

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Speaker 1: police officers obviously taking him away and he is being handcuffed.

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Speaker 1: If you want to see the actual terror with five

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Speaker 1: killed at Port Lauderdale Airport, the Drudge Report has a

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Speaker 1: couple of pictures up there now that you might want

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Speaker 1: to take a look at. Alicia Genteel as a reporter

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Speaker 1: with our affiliate news radio w i o D down

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Speaker 1: in Miami, and uh, Alicia, what can you tell us?

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Speaker 1: What can you add? Sean? Yeah, the senior is very

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Speaker 1: fluid and active. Those are actually the words of Sheriff's Israel.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking down below me that I could see law

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Speaker 1: enforcement officials just carrying evidence. They're still investigating. They haven't

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Speaker 1: cleared the airport yet. They're not deeming this airport for

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Speaker 1: Laerdale Hollywood International Airport is states Um. All of the media,

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Speaker 1: we're all here together to watching them work. Essentially, the

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Speaker 1: airport director here has told us that the passengers that

639
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Speaker 1: are here, they're safe, they're sheltered in place, they're safe.

640
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: They're not you know, out on the side of the

641
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: departure area where the media where we are here. But

642
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: we could see the law enforcement. But they did tell

643
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: us these suspects is in custody. The only shooting was

644
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: interminal too. But we're just watching them work. I could

645
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: see crime scene tape. I don't see any passengers anymore

646
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: on the runway. They were there earlier, but they're not anymore.

647
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: And that's the scene of what it is here, of

648
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: loss of heavy law enforcement here and still very fluid

649
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: and active. To send it back to you, Sean, let

650
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: me let me ask you the a Silicia, because there

651
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: was an eyewitness that it was actually on the phone

652
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: This was after the initial shooting took place. This was

653
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: about forty five minutes ago, and the eye witness was

654
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: on the phone with the Fox News channel on my

655
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: colleague Shepherd Smith, and at the time they were all

656
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: being told again this was after the initial gunman was

657
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: taken into custody, that there were other shots in a

658
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: nearby either garage or a terminal. And now we're being

659
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: what can you tell us about that, is is there

660
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: an active shooter now believe still out there or do

661
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: they believe it was a lone gunman. At this time

662
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: they believe they believe it's just a loane gunman. And yeah,

663
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: the people did say they heard shots in a parking

664
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: garage and saw uh officers with guns strawn and shrip

665
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: that israel Is that they may have had them drawn.

666
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: They may have been investigating. But at this time he

667
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: will not confirm that there was as he doesn't believe

668
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: there was a shooter in the parking lot area garage.

669
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: I witnesses that said they thought a shooting was in

670
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: another terminal as well. That's just been so many conflicting

671
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: reports because there are people saying there was a shooting

672
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: in the parking garage I did see police activity myself

673
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: enter the parking garage. I saw police run to the garage.

674
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: I saw police inside the garage. But when we had

675
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: the press ofference and asked about it, we were told

676
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: that that was not the suspect who was taken into custody,

677
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: that that wasn't associated with him, and they that the

678
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: only active shooting are the only shooting here was at

679
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: terminal too, That's all they would confirm. And let me

680
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: let me ask you this if I can, because I'm

681
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: looking at live pictures now and there are so many

682
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: people and by the way, in a very orderly fashion,

683
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: being walk to different areas. But they're on the tarmac,

684
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: which is not something you see on a regular basis

685
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: at an airport. Why are they on the tarmac? From

686
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: my view, there were people on the tarmac. I don't

687
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: see them anymore. Uh, they did not. It could be

688
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: another terminal because I'm looking at live shots right now

689
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: and there's a number of people there. Yeah. Yeah, they

690
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: were in front of my terminal on the tarmac. So

691
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: my yeah us is that that's a part of the

692
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: getting the passenger states evacuating them because the people who

693
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: are on the runway in the tarmac area here are

694
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 1: gone now uh, and they may have been safely evacuated

695
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: and there is Yeah, they may be under shelter. It's

696
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: hard to see from here, but there is a little

697
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: airport facility for infarior down by the way. They may

698
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: be in there. But they did say they got the

699
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: passengers safely, and they looked like passengers. They weren't uniformed people.

700
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: They looked like passengers can meet civilian, not no one

701
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: in uniform the people who are aligned on the runway,

702
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: So they may have been evacuated safely. That seemed to

703
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: be how they did it to get people out. Alicia,

704
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: did you speak to any of the eyewitnesses. I have

705
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: not directly spoken to the eye witnesses. There's been a

706
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: couple who have said they've seen things, but again, we

707
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: only what got terminal to confirmed. So a lot of

708
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: people really shaping up. I talked to a couple of

709
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: people who are at passengers at the airport and they

710
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: were just so shaken up, crying that they were just

711
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: involved in here and I and I was asking them.

712
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: They were telling me they're flying out, flying in and

713
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: they're just crying, shaking up because they're in the middle

714
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: of this, and they just confused and scared as anyone

715
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: would be in the middle of this kind of situation. Yeah,

716
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: somebelieves so sad, and we both know that you know,

717
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: five are dead, and we know at least eight or injured.

718
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Any reports that there might be others injured we haven't

719
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: heard about yet. Is that count likely to go up?

720
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: And is it true the report that we heard from

721
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: the one eye witness that the shooter particularly was going

722
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: for head shots. I haven't heard a confirmation about the

723
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: head shots. I haven't heard anyone speak of that. So yeah,

724
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: the eyewitness that was on the eyewitness that was on

725
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: Fox said that the people that he saw and his

726
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: wife actually was caring for. One of those injured was

727
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: shot in the head, and that particular person apparently was

728
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: on komanden, which was a blood thinner, which is really

729
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: dat makes a very very dangerous. I mean, obviously a

730
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: shot in the head is dangerous for anybody, but in

731
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: that case, the bleeding would be that much more dramatic.

732
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: And his wife was actually putting pressure and trying to

733
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: help this poor person out. But apparently this individual was

734
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: going for these head shots. Any other word from the

735
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: Senator Nelson's office, And is there been confirmation that this

736
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: person is in fact Esteban Santiago And do we know

737
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: anything more about his military background if there is one.

738
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: We haven't gotten confirmation of the suspect name from the

739
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: press conference. That way too early to Yeah, uh, well,

740
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: we really appreciate your time, Alicia Genteel, appreciate you being

741
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: with us. Eight nine one, Sean, if you want to

742
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: be a part of the program, Damn Bongino is with US.

743
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: Former Secret Service agent, good friend of the program, former

744
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: m Y p D. You know you're watching this unfold

745
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: as as I am now. It's not unusual to check

746
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: a gun on a commercial airplane. I've done it myself,

747
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: but you have to have a license from the state

748
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: that you're going to, the state that you're traveling to.

749
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, I'll tell you right now. One of the

750
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: things they should be doing, and I'm sure they are.

751
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: These are more than competent people working this is you

752
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: want to talk to people on the plane, Sean. I mean,

753
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: if he was coming from Canada and had this thing

754
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 1: that the weapon checked, and you're absolutely right that there's

755
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: nothing even remotely uncommon about that. I'm glad you put

756
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: that out there. You want to make sure, I mean,

757
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: what happened on the plane to make this person come

758
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: off a plane, un check a bag, go into a

759
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 1: bathroom and and what appears to be a very deliberate act.

760
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to be, you know, some random emotional outburst.

761
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: Did something happen on that plane? And you're also going

762
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: through now you're going through this guy's entire contact network

763
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: right now finding out if there was some kind of,

764
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, some kind of a domestic incident beforehand. You know,

765
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: a motive right now is number one. They have to

766
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: uncover a motive or else. Right you know you're you're

767
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: gonna be. You know you're gonna be, You're gonna be

768
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: spinning your wheels. Yeah. Well, one thing, apparently we now

769
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: are finding out that he might be from the state

770
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: of New Jersey. I see a report on the Drudge Report.

771
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: We don't want to know a whole lot about him

772
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: at this particular point in time, and I assume we

773
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: won't know a lot about him. We might know more

774
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: by the time I get on TV tonight at ten eastern.

775
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: But um, it's you know, for one of the things

776
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: that I try to encourage my listeners in in some way, shape,

777
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: matter of form. Now in an airport, it's unlikely you're

778
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna be carrying a gun, but there's got to be

779
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: one of you know. And I heard the voice of

780
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: this poor guy that was on the Fox News channel,

781
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: and I wish that people would spend time in terms

782
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: of some type of self defense ability. In other words,

783
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: if it's one shooter with a gun, and especially if

784
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: he has long and and you know, big magazines in

785
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: his gun, I mean, he could fire off any number

786
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: of bullets in a really short period of time, but

787
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: at some point he's gonna have to reload. And I

788
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: wish we could have some type of training for a

789
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: lot of people that anybody that ever did this would

790
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: know that within seconds, once that clip is empty, they

791
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: know they're gonna get tackled. Yeah, you must have been.

792
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: You were listening to the same coverage I was. You

793
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: know that it was John Schindler. I think was it.

794
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: I mean, his name even sticks out to me. It was,

795
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: and I know I'm horrible with names. I mean, it

796
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: was really powerful and there was some reports which it

797
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: looks like now we're inaccurate, that there was a second

798
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: shooting in a in a parking garage. So he was

799
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: in the baggage terminal. This man they had him on

800
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: the phone live and you're absolutely right, Sean. I mean

801
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: the fear in his voice. You know, you can't hear

802
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: that and think to yourself, Gosh, I don't want to

803
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: be a sheep, you know, I want to be a

804
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: sheep dog or a wolf here. You know, I don't

805
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: want to be the one preyed upon. I mean, he

806
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: was clearly, understandably, you know, terrified there was a shooting

807
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: that just happened. He had witnessed someone killed, and now

808
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: he's hearing reports again later on it's it appears that

809
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: those reports were inaccurate, but other shots And you know

810
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: I heard that same thing you did, and I turned

811
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: up the TV and put down what I was doing.

812
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: And it was really for the while it was happening,

813
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: it was incredible transformative TV. And you're right, it should

814
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: spur people to action. It's sort of like when when

815
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: these incidents have happened in the in the past, I

816
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: would ask people to call the show, see we need

817
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: to get rid of guns, and I'm like, well, I

818
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: carry a gun. I've carried one my entire life. You know,

819
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: would you like somebody like me or bow Dietle and

820
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: me and Dan Bongino who do carry weapons, who are

821
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: trained in self defense? Do you want us there or not?

822
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: I would rather be there because I trained for this

823
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: every day. You know, I've been doing this now for

824
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: five years. Look, I don't have the level of training

825
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: that you did as an m y p D officer

826
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: or a Secret Service officer. But I mean we do

827
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: serious martial arts training and and blade and gun training

828
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: everything in between them. We work out and you know,

829
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: different scenarios every day. Well, you know, the the great

830
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: part about training yourself to defend yourself with the firearmors,

831
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: you don't have to have been hYP D and Secret

832
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Service to learn how to effectively use it defensively. Remember,

833
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, in the Secret Service, we're we're trained to

834
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: use those weapons in a number of different scenarios terrorists,

835
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: soft target assault, hard target, assaults on one on well

836
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: protected protectees, on law enforcement issues. I mean, it's a

837
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: it's a it's a big difference from being you know,

838
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Joe civilian and just learning how to defend yourself if

839
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: God forbid, an active shooter. You know, you're on the ground,

840
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: appears over you, straddles you and points a gun in

841
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: your face. I mean, that's a far different level of training,

842
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: and it doesn't require um as much you know, targets

843
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: skill as people in I've probably spent a half hour

844
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: a week on just stripping firearms a close range or

845
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: in my back or pointed at my head or aimed

846
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: at my chest, and disarming a blade, which is even

847
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: harder than disarming the gun. It's easier to disarm a

848
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: gun at close range than it is a knife. Most

849
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: people wouldn't I don't think know that, um, but there's yeah,

850
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: there's a number of different reasons for I mean, knives

851
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: are terrible. I mean the safe distance for a knife

852
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: most you most enforcement people tell it's twenty one feet,

853
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: and that seems counterintuitive. Twenty one feet the safe distance.

854
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: There's a video out there, but I think it's called

855
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: defending against edge Weapons where you'll see that a guy

856
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: with a knife within twenty one feet on top of

857
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: you before you even absolutely, but I gotta I gotta run.

858
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: But listen, damn, we always appreciate you being with us.

859
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Well more of this coverage as well. We'll get back

860
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour to the hacking and sod.

861
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: But it looks like in terms of this is a

862
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: lone shooting incident, we now believe it's not two shooters,

863
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: thank god, and it looks like he's in custody. We'll

864
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: have more details on Hannity tonight at TAM. Will get

865
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: your calls in in the next half hour as well.

866
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: Excuse me, ladies, would you mind telling us where you're

867
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: going to? My family is in terminal two. I was

868
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: taking the rental car back and kind of waiting between

869
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: terminal one in the rental car place. Everybody started running

870
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: out of terminal one, out of the rental car place.

871
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: Some lady was yelling for help down in the garage,

872
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: so I just ran and here I am here. I've

873
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: been here probably what term is it? Probably about twelve thirty.

874
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 1: What did you see? Um? I was returning the rental

875
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: car and my family just said stay there because they

876
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: were even are putting everybody in a safe place in

877
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: terminal two because they heard gunshots and they ran. My

878
00:48:55,160 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: ninety year old grandma's in there. She ran, Yeah, they're fine,

879
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: they're an adult of staff lounge back to Michigan. Alright,

880
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: those are new eye witnesses that we hear. You can

881
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: just hear the panic and the absolute fear and people's voices.

882
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: It is uh a tragedy. Of course, we're talking about

883
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: the shooting. It happened, I guess about one thirty earlier today,

884
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: a little over three hours ago at the Fort Lauderdale

885
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: Holliday Hollywood International Airport, and the airport, by the way,

886
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: is still closed. People are were advised at the point

887
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: to get shelter. A lot of incoming flights more than

888
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: two thousand flights nationwide affected. If you're traveling, make sure

889
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: you check with your your airline provider, whichever airline you

890
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: happen to be on. We know and can confirm at

891
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: this hour the five people are dead. At least eight

892
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: others are injured. What we've learned about the gunman is

893
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: that the shooter literally apparently checked the gun. He was

894
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: on an Air Counada flight, and he ended up pulling

895
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: the gun out of a check bag, which in other words,

896
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: check your gun in a in a special lock box

897
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: that you put on the airplane. It's not allowed to

898
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: be loaded at the time. Then apparently got the checked firearm,

899
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: went into a bathroom through the clip in the firearm

900
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: and then came out and according to one eye witness,

901
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: said nothing and just started shooting. And now we have

902
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: five people dead. Apparently they there was one point we

903
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: thought there might be another shooter in a neighboring garage

904
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: or a neighboring I don't hanger, or whatever else, part

905
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: of whatever other part of the airport. We never got

906
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: that confirmed, but that ended up not being true. Anyway,

907
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: Joining us now is Jonathan Gillham. Then we'll get to

908
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: some of your calls here. Then later on we have

909
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: the latest on the Russian hacking, will get to Jonathan.

910
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: You know, you and I talk a lot because your

911
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: background as a Navy seal and I'm not comparing my

912
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: training to you, but I love to talk about self

913
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: defense with you because you're so good at it, and

914
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: you know it's so sad to hear people so helpless.

915
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: And when these guys dropped that clip, I know what

916
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: you would do. You would charge the shooter, would you not? Absolutely?

917
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: And you know it's it's unfortunate, Sean that that we

918
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: still as a country haven't gotten to that mindset where

919
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: you may go to a coffee shop to get coffee

920
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: in a cookie and you may have to end up

921
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: defending your life. And people need to realize that that's

922
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: just the world that we live in, that you need

923
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: to be ready at all times to turn if you

924
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: have a moment, go after that person. And we have

925
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: more than one person that thinks like that, chances are

926
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: these these type of events are gonna end very quickly

927
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: because you know, unless he's highly trained, it's going to

928
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: take him at least a second, um maybe a second

929
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: half to reload that weapon if he has another magazine there.

930
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: Remember I remember after Sam Bernardino, people are calling the show,

931
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,479
Speaker 1: see Hannity, we don't need guns, and I remember saying

932
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: to them, well, I've carried a gun all of my

933
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: adult life. I've had a carry license in New York,

934
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, California, Alabama, and Georgia. I've carried a gun

935
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: more more than half my life. I've carried a weapon.

936
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: And and I say to people, remember in San Bernardino

937
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: there were reports that this guy literally dropped the clip

938
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: and was reloading. And I said, well, would you want

939
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: me in the room at that moment? At least I

940
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: would have an opportunity. I may not make it. I

941
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: may not succeed, or Jonathan Gillam might be there, or

942
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: Boddo might be there. Are a police officer that's off

943
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: duty or retired military personnel that's been trained in some way.

944
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: Do you want that person there, a law abiding gun

945
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: owner or not? And I most people understand that would

946
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 1: be a good thing. Yeah, And I can guarantee Sean,

947
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: you know this, they're gonna go straight after that. This

948
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: is gonna start working its way up here in the

949
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: next couple of days. Um, next thing, you know, you're

950
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to transport weapons across the state

951
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: lines or something. They're gonna they're gonna start pushing for something.

952
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: Every time something like this happens, even though it's probably

953
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: from what I'm gathering the intelligence and I'm getting from

954
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: my sources in law enforcement, I am suspecting that this

955
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 1: is going to be a lone person not affiliated with terrorism.

956
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: You think it's not going to be associated with terrorism?

957
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: Why do you say that? Well, the information that I'm getting,

958
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: uh that this is a an individual that was it's

959
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: an army, and that he is a subject of a

960
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: he did have he did have a military idea, but

961
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: he's a subject of what he's a subject of a

962
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: criminal case. And uh, so I don't really know how

963
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: much I should be putting out yet about this, but basically,

964
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: he's a subject of a case. Uh. There's seems like

965
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on in this guy's life and

966
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: uh and so, you know, I think the picture that

967
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm seeing painted about this guy is that he may

968
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: have just lost it. I have a picture of the

969
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: suspect taken into custody. It hasn't been released by anybody

970
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: else but a very good friend of mine, Senate. I'm

971
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: not going to release it because law enforcement may not

972
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: want me to do that. Um, what kind of case

973
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: is it? Can you tell us that? Um? I don't

974
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: want to say that, Sean, because it's it is a

975
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: criminal case. But I don't want to give the type

976
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: of case I did say at the beginning of the show,

977
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: because he did have a military idea and I stand

978
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: by this. We have over two hundred fifty thousand military

979
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: men and women that served multiple tours of duty in

980
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: Iraq and Afghanistan and have PTSD. We have a v

981
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: a system that has failed them spectacularly. They have denied

982
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: them the care that we promise them. And I know

983
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: from my own experience, and I bet you've been through

984
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: the same thing I have. I have been informed by

985
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,479
Speaker 1: friends or by even distant associates of individuals in their

986
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: life suffering from PTSD so bad that they're a threat

987
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: to themselves or their families. And in every case that

988
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: I've gotten involved, I always rely on my my best friend,

989
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: one of my best friends, Ali North, And I know

990
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: I can tell you example after example where he ends

991
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: up spending hours and hours on the phone with these guys.

992
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: They all love them, they all respect him, and he

993
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: he never ends the conversation without a plan of action

994
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: to get that person to help they need. But a

995
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: lot of these people are not getting that help. That's

996
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: why fixing the v A is so important. It's not

997
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: just I mean, we have the people of physical injuries

998
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: and limbs that are blown off and faces that have

999
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: been mutilated, but we also have these guys. They we overworked,

1000
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: many of these soldiers. And you've been in combat, you

1001
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: understand this. It's it's beyond the average stress that the

1002
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: average individual can even fathom, you know, Sean, just just

1003
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: from training. Uh, depending on what you do your training,

1004
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 1: you can get It's pretty amazing. The mindset that that

1005
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: you can start to develop just from being around explosions,

1006
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: breaching of doors and shooting and a high volume. But this,

1007
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: and I'm agreeing with you about the v A. I

1008
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: think it's one of the biggest things that Trump has

1009
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: to go after, and I think it's a system that

1010
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: CAN need can we needs to be overhauled. With this case, However,

1011
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: this person is an E four. He is not being

1012
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: in the military for a long period of time. I

1013
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: think we're looking at somebody who has a mental problem,

1014
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: somebody who uh is the fact that he's in the military.

1015
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: I think it is going to be kind of inconsequential

1016
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: to this. And I think this is a guy who

1017
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: um has some deviant issues and that goes along with

1018
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: the case that the type of case. All right, Jonathan Gilham,

1019
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: stay there. We have a caller. Neville is in Port St. Lucy, Florida.

1020
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: My cousin, former NYPD UH officer, has a gun range

1021
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: down there. We call him big Head because he's like

1022
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: six ft ten. He's unbelievable. Grew up with him and UH.

1023
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: He was known as black Cloud in the yp D.

1024
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: That was his nickname, and it was really good at

1025
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: his job. And you know it was a detective first

1026
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: grade when he retired. He owns a gun range down

1027
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: in Port St. Lucy Neville is apparently a retired immigration agent,

1028
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: uh and can give us more information about the laws

1029
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: about checking in a gun on a commercial airline. Sean,

1030
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: nice to be on the show. Um. When you were

1031
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: speaking with special Agent bugg Nino, Uh, you you mentioned

1032
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: about not about you mentioned that any person can uh

1033
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: check a weapon on a plane as long as they

1034
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: have a license or a permit. But that's uh, they

1035
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: don't even need that just for factual purposes. A person

1036
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: as long as they have the proper case, which you've

1037
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: already mentioned, and the ammunition is in its original uh

1038
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: thing that you purchased it with, And anybody can check

1039
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: the gun on an airplane as long as it goes

1040
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: into the baggage compartment. And the second thing is is

1041
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: that I don't we don't know what the status of

1042
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: this individual is, but recent information is that he's either

1043
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: a U. S. Citizen or a lawful permanent residence. So

1044
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: this might not be pertinent, but people can't come into

1045
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: the United States from other countries and carry gun and

1046
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: carry a gun on an air even check check luggers.

1047
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: They can't enter the United States with a gun. Uh.

1048
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: There's only certain instances, and they have paperwork to fill

1049
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: out from alcohol to that. I think that I think

1050
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: that will have a harder time having the gun in

1051
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: Canada than the United States, to be honest, Yeah, that's

1052
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: that's probably true. But if this person came in on

1053
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: a Canadian flight, uh he um, he would Immigration has

1054
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: to check him and Customs has to check him, and

1055
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: that weapon has to be declared and he'd have to

1056
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: have a reason for bringing it if he's a non

1057
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: immigrant coming into the country. Well, I know from my

1058
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: own experience that for me to carry a gun on

1059
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: the commercial airlines, you have to have a license from

1060
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: the state you're leaving to the state you're going, and

1061
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: there is reciprocity. For example, if you have a Florida

1062
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: gun license. I think it's there's reciprocity in thirty some

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Speaker 1: odd states. But now my New York City carry permit,

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Speaker 1: which is very difficult to get, there's no reciprocity, but

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Speaker 1: it's good for the entire state of New York only.

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Speaker 1: But that's it. That's if you're going to carry the

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Speaker 1: weapon concealed in that state, but just to take it

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Speaker 1: to carry but to get it on the airplane from

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Speaker 1: state to state. There's nothing. You're not required to show

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Speaker 1: anything to the airline. That's good to know. We really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, novel. Thanks for what you do. Uh, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna say good bye. If you get any more information,

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Speaker 1: check back in with us. We have a lot of

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Speaker 1: other news that we gotta get to today. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you checking in. Thank you, buddy. Alright, eight nine f

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Speaker 1: one seawn if you want to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the program. Uh. Donald Trump did release a statement after

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Speaker 1: a briefing that he got earlier today on the intelligence issue.

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Speaker 1: He said, while Russia, China and other countries, outside groups

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Speaker 1: and people consistently are trying to break through the cyber

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Speaker 1: infrastructure of our governmental institutions, businesses, organizations, including the Democratic

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Speaker 1: National Committee, it was absolutely no effect of the outcome

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Speaker 1: of the election, including the fact that there was no

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Speaker 1: tampering whatsoever with voting machines. There were attempts to hack

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Speaker 1: the Republican National Committee, but the RNC had strong hacking

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Speaker 1: defenses and hackers weren't successful. He said, whether it be

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Speaker 1: the government organizations, associations, businesses. We need to aggress league,

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Speaker 1: combat and stop cyber attacks. That's been my point forever.

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Speaker 1: To that end, Trump said he will appoint a team

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Speaker 1: to give him a plan within ninety days of assuming

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Speaker 1: the presidency, and he said, is tremendous respect for the

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Speaker 1: work and service done by law enforcement. Yeah, Russia could

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Speaker 1: have possibly been one of the culprits that we don't

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Speaker 1: know for sure, and they don't. There's nothing in this

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Speaker 1: report that it convinced me yet, but I haven't read

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, um, you know. And another question is

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Speaker 1: how did NBC get an exclusive look at the top

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Speaker 1: secret report that Obama was presented? Who gave it to them?

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Speaker 1: It's another great question. And Trump demands a congressional investigation

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Speaker 1: into Obama administration's leak on election hackey, How in God's name,

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Speaker 1: I mean, all of this leak, How does the how

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Speaker 1: does NBC News get it? Well, that's because they they're

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Speaker 1: doing this for political purposes. I went through a whole

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Speaker 1: series of examples both last night on TV and when

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Speaker 1: more on this tonight. Where let's see the Department of Energy, NASA,

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Speaker 1: we have the Department of Personal Management twenty three million

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Speaker 1: people hacked by the Chinese and Obama never mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: The White House hacked. I bet most of you never

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Speaker 1: heard about it. Since two thousand and nine. This all

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Speaker 1: happened under Obama's watch, the Department of Defense, the Department

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Speaker 1: of State. There's hardly a government agency that wasn't hacked.

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Speaker 1: And as it relates to the d n C, well

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Speaker 1: maybe Wiki League's got it through a third party source

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Speaker 1: or what. It doesn't matter. That wasn't necessary. This was

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Speaker 1: only a phishing scheme. And separate and apart from all

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Speaker 1: the attacks cyber attacks against our government that have been

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Speaker 1: ignored and intelligence. As much as I love and respect

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Speaker 1: intelligence and the intelligence officials and those that do the

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Speaker 1: hard work of covert operations, they're not always right. Even

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Speaker 1: Clapper admitted that my fingerprints were all over the bogus

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Speaker 1: IRAQ w m D report. And you know, so, questioning

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Speaker 1: intelligence doesn't make you a bad human being because it's

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Speaker 1: been wrong before. You know, who gave NBC this information

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Speaker 1: and why how the media outlets get it before the

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Speaker 1: President elect for crying out loud and why In two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, when Wiki Leaks released the the operating

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Speaker 1: procedures for Camp Delta and and GETMA, Well, why didn't

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Speaker 1: we fix it then? And when they released the information

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Speaker 1: the video a US military video of attacks and Baghdad

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Speaker 1: that killed two Reuters reporters, Well, why didn't they realize

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Speaker 1: we had no cybersecurity? Then when Wiki Leaks released the

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Speaker 1: Afghan World war war logs, or the Iraqi warlogs, or

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Speaker 1: the Syrian warlogs, or the GETMO files or diplomatic cables,

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Speaker 1: why didn't we release these things? Then? It's unbelievable. This

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Speaker 1: is and we have said repeatedly over the last two months,

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Speaker 1: that our source is not the ruction government. The first

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Speaker 1: order of business is to repeal and replace Obamacare. Repeal

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Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act. That's a problem. You want grandma living

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Speaker 1: in the guest room. You repeal the Affordable Care Act.

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Speaker 1: We are you too, United Caucuses, and we're united in

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Speaker 1: our opposition to these Republican attempts to make America sick again.

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Speaker 1: Freedom is back in style. Welcome to the Revolution. We

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Speaker 1: down Baby, a new sewn NY show, more I'm Sis,

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01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: information on breaking news, and more bold inspired solutions for

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Speaker 1: America going on max Final News round Up and information Overload.

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Speaker 1: Our our source is not the Russian government. So, in

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Speaker 1: other words, let me be clear, Russia did not give

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Speaker 1: you the Podesta documents or anything from the d n C.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. Can you confirm whether or not you have

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Speaker 1: information involving hacked info from the r n C. We

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Speaker 1: received about three pages information to do with the r

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Speaker 1: n C and Trump, but was already public somewhere else

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Speaker 1: without revealing your sources, would it be fair to say

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Speaker 1: that the information as it relates to Wiki leaks and

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Speaker 1: John Podesta's emails came from within the United States? To you, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we have said it has not come from a state party.

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Speaker 1: We know where it came from originally. Of course it's

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Speaker 1: John Podesta, It's from the d n C, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: There's been no claim that has been held up, not

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Speaker 1: even maintained anymore, that any of the information has been

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Speaker 1: modified or is fake. So you can't confirm or deny

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Speaker 1: if this information came from within the United States. We're

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Speaker 1: unhappy that we felt that we needed to even say

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Speaker 1: that it wasn't a state party. Normally we say nothing

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Speaker 1: at all, but we have a conflict of interest. We

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Speaker 1: have an excellent reputation and strong interest in protecting our

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Speaker 1: sources and so never saying anything about them, never ruling

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Speaker 1: anyone in or anyone out. Sometimes do it, we don't

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Speaker 1: like to do it. We have another interest, which is

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Speaker 1: maximizing the impact of our publications. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: here here, in order to order to prevent a distraction

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Speaker 1: attack against our publications, we've had to come out and say, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not a state party. Stop trying to distract in

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Speaker 1: that way. Pay attention to the content of the publication. So,

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Speaker 1: in other words, when you say state party, wasn't another

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Speaker 1: state like Russia or or some other countries. The US

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Speaker 1: government is accusing Wiki Leaks of having received these materials

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Speaker 1: from Russia, and you say it's false, it did not

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Speaker 1: come from Russia. And the President of the United States

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Speaker 1: is advancing the narrative. Is the President of the United

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Speaker 1: States lying to the American people, Well, he's acting like

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Speaker 1: a lawyer. If you look at most of his statements,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't say that. He doesn't say Wiki Leaks obtained

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Speaker 1: its information from Russia, worked with Russia's just trying to

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Speaker 1: influence the elections. So he and you also note that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't say, uh. From statements that I've read, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't say that Russia was trying to influence the election

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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. Our publications had wide uptake by the

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Speaker 1: American people. They're all true. Um, but that's not the

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Speaker 1: allegation that is being presented by the Obama White House.

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Speaker 1: So why such a dramatic response. Well, the reason it's obvious, Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to de legitimize Trump administration as it goes

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Speaker 1: into the White House. They're going to try they are

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Speaker 1: trying to say, how the uh presidents elect Trump UH

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Speaker 1: is not a legitimate uh president. Do you believe governments

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Speaker 1: regularly lie, propagandize, manipulate the minds of their citizens. Faraoh statement.

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Speaker 1: You want to expose that truth to people, regardless of

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Speaker 1: whether it's Republican Democrats. Absolutely, no political agenda. Absolutely all right,

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Speaker 1: News round up in Information Overload Hour, It's the Shawn

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Speaker 1: Hannity Show. And again our thoughts and prayers go out

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Speaker 1: to the people. This tragedy, that's not a tragedy. It's

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Speaker 1: an act of murder of five people and plus killed

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Speaker 1: at the in Fort Lauderdale, at the airport. I was

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Speaker 1: around there over Christmas. It's it's so sad when these

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Speaker 1: incidents occur. Well, the very latest on Hannity to Night

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Speaker 1: tennies during on the Fox News Channel. As it relates,

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Speaker 1: that's part of my interviews with Julian Osans. We do

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Speaker 1: have an update. The FBI now has pointed out that

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Speaker 1: the d n C inhibited, actually actually inhibited the investigation

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Speaker 1: of stolen emails. They wouldn't let them do their job

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Speaker 1: to find out who was responsible, not responsible. Why would

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Speaker 1: the Democrats do that anyway? Donald Trump has weighed in

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Speaker 1: on this, making a point that I've made now since

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Speaker 1: Obama has been president, hackers have attacked the US electrical grid,

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Speaker 1: the Pentagon's Joint Strike Fighter Project that They've have hacked

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Speaker 1: into NASA, the Department of Energy, the Federal Election Commission, Networks,

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Speaker 1: the US Postal Service, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

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Speaker 1: They've hacked into the White House. They've hacked into the

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Speaker 1: State Department. They've hacked into the Department of Defense, They've

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Speaker 1: hacked into the I r S. They've hacked into the

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Speaker 1: Office of Personnel Management, and Donald Trump, in an interview

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Speaker 1: with The New York Times, referred to that, saying China,

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Speaker 1: you know, in hacked twenty plus million government names. Referring

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Speaker 1: to that breach of computers at the Office of Personal

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Speaker 1: Management and early this all happen. How come nobody ever

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Speaker 1: talks about that. All these years they've had all of

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Speaker 1: this hacking going on, Obama has been the president and

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Speaker 1: they have not done anything. Is a political Trump said, well,

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Speaker 1: they're embarrassed about the outcome of the election, and in

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Speaker 1: that sense, this is a witch hunt only focusing on this.

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Speaker 1: And he's right. If we want cybersecurity, we need to

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Speaker 1: really delve into it and not use only those instances

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Speaker 1: that advanced some type of political narrative. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: James Clapper, my fingerprints were all over Bogus IRAQ WMD report.

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Speaker 1: Oh so we we have to believe him as if

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Speaker 1: it's ex cathedral from the Pope himself speaking on faith

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Speaker 1: and morals, that that the intelligence community can never get

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Speaker 1: anything wrong. As Clappers trashing Trump for questioning intelligence, Well,

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Speaker 1: intelligence people have got a lot of things wrong. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: there's briefing before lawmakers. You know, the question is why

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Speaker 1: did John Podesta go for the phishing email? Anyway? Eight

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Speaker 1: nine for one Shawn is a toe free telephone number.

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Speaker 1: Stuart McClure's with us. He's the CEO President and founder

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Speaker 1: of Silence Advanced persistent threat protection based on unique artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 1: and executives at Silence, the world's only firm using artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 1: they helped find a halt of breach and loss of

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Speaker 1: personal data for these twenty two million federal employees and contractors.

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Speaker 1: They intimately know about this. Gary Molevski is a CEO

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Speaker 1: of snoop Wall, a global leader and breach prevention and

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Speaker 1: internet security. Welcome both of you to the program. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. Stewart, I guess you know intimately

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Speaker 1: everything about this Chinese hack of twenty three million federal

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Speaker 1: employees and contractors. What can you tell us? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've been involved almost since the beginning when the UH

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Speaker 1: the Opium Agency had first recognized some some unique um

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Speaker 1: problems that they were having on their network, and they

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Speaker 1: didn't know if it was really hacking related, but brought

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Speaker 1: us in because of our expertise, and once we got in,

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Speaker 1: we instantly knew that they were in a world of

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Speaker 1: kurt and so we helped them not only identify the

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Speaker 1: attacker attackers and how they got in, but then to

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Speaker 1: immediately prevent for their loss of data and for the

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Speaker 1: loss of acts or gaining of access so that we

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Speaker 1: were able to just within about four days stop over

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Speaker 1: two thousand pieces of malware that we're inside of O

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Speaker 1: p M sitting there dormantly or being actively used by

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Speaker 1: the adversary that had been missed by all the other technologies,

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Speaker 1: with all the other layers, with all the other people

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Speaker 1: that were involved. And I think that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things that is a common thread and all these discussions.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the who, but it really

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Speaker 1: is about the how and how are they getting in

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Speaker 1: and why is it so easy? Am I making a

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Speaker 1: good point though? In the case of Podesta? I mean,

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Speaker 1: Podesta just fell for a stupid fishing scam, right, So

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like, you know, when I when I point

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Speaker 1: out that the White House has been hacked and the

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Speaker 1: State Department has been hacked, and the Department of the

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Speaker 1: Defense has been hacked, and the Office of Personal Management,

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Speaker 1: which you have been brought into help fixed, you know,

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Speaker 1: aren't they far worse examples of hacking than John Podesta

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Speaker 1: falling for stupid fishing scam. And that's why I sort

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Speaker 1: of laugh at these sort of events in you know,

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Speaker 1: you have Podesta that you know Okay, maybe him and

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Speaker 1: maybe a few others. We don't know the exact details

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Speaker 1: because the government and you know, the contracts have been

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Speaker 1: involved haven't really produced in real details. But let's presume

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Speaker 1: they got in with real simple phishing emails, etcetera. And

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Speaker 1: they just got emails. They mean, so what I mean

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Speaker 1: emails are I mean, they're helpful to they're helpful to

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Speaker 1: get sort of triangulation around okay, what's going on. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, if he didn't for the phishing scam,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been hacked. Well, that's right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think, And that's one of the other things I

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Speaker 1: always tell people, I mean, including my my mom, my parents,

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Speaker 1: my friends. It's like, it is real simple to avoid

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Speaker 1: getting hacked. It really is. People think it's some pixie

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Speaker 1: dust mystery. But if you just don't open links that

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Speaker 1: you don't know and trust, if you don't open attachments

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01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: that you don't know and trust, if you don't plug

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Speaker 1: in USB sticks into your computer that you don't know

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01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,839
Speaker 1: and trust, you won't get hacked. And it's plus prevention

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Speaker 1: of that cability. So that's really good for my audience

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01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: to hear what you just said is very important for

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01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: everyone listening to this program, and do you believe that

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01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: it's true. I know that they had this instance where

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: the FBI find was able to hack an iPhone, but

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01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: as an iPhone really encrypted as well as they say

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01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: it is, it's encrypted pretty well. But like I mean,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people have come into throught all of

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Speaker 1: those attacks and trying to get the date off the

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Speaker 1: phones in the terrorist tech it is. It is quite

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Speaker 1: easy to get it off still to this day. Um,

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Speaker 1: But you have to be you have to be knowledgeable.

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Speaker 1: We you have to know what you're looking for and

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Speaker 1: how to do it. Um that very few people really know.

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Speaker 1: So you know, Look, if you're in the inner circle,

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Speaker 1: sure you can get it done. So can the bad

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Speaker 1: guys do it? Yes? Can the good guys do it? Well?

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Speaker 1: Some of us? Gary, let me ask you, because again

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Speaker 1: you're an expert in this, what did you think of

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Speaker 1: the Why do you think they're focusing on this but

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Speaker 1: not the White House, NASA, the d D, the State Department,

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Speaker 1: the FBC. Why do you think they're more focused on this?

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Speaker 1: It's all political, isn't it, Sean? This is so political.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually disappointed in the FBI's report because it missed

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Speaker 1: the last piece in the chain. You know that kid

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Speaker 1: who owns the King's servers in Russia where these IP

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Speaker 1: addresses were Sean, take a credit card. You got it

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01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 1: all local Simon gift store without your name on it.

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Speaker 1: You can go have an IP address on his server

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Speaker 1: in five minutes for five dollars a month, so he

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Speaker 1: said when he was when he found out the I

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Speaker 1: p s were from his server, he said that he

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Speaker 1: tried to reach Interpol, Europe, Pole and the FBI because

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Speaker 1: he tracked the actual keyboards down to IP addresses in Europe,

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01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: and no one wanted to help him find out where

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Speaker 1: those computers were located and who was at those keyboards.

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Speaker 1: Did either the both of you watch my interview with

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Speaker 1: Julian Assange. Oh, absolutely fantastic job. Well what what did

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01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: you did? You believe him? Let me start with you

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01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: start well, I, I certainly I think he lends a

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Speaker 1: lot of credibility to what he referred in your interview.

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Speaker 1: I think it's very very possible. You know, emails could

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Speaker 1: be searched from other locations, they could be from insiders inside,

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Speaker 1: they could actually it could have been hacked up by anybody.

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01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: But then someone hacked up the person that hacked them

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01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: and then got those emails. You know, it's very simple.

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Speaker 1: This is common you know, tradecraft out there, so you

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Speaker 1: know where and how exactly it all it all happened.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pointless to even just what about attribution?

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01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, how long could it really take to definitively

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01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: know this came for Russia or not? Well, that's my point.

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Speaker 1: You know it with o PM, you know, we we

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Speaker 1: knew very very little about it. That's why we didn't

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Speaker 1: come out explicitly and say it was Chinese per se.

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Speaker 1: Now in the Operation Clever report that we put out

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago was definitively I ran. But

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Speaker 1: we we tracked them for five years, I mean five

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Speaker 1: full years, a full investigation around the world. And you know,

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Speaker 1: to get a true attribution of any sort it takes

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Speaker 1: extraordinary measure um and work to do and you just can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't do it the way that a lot of

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Speaker 1: folks pretend to do it. They do it with deductive

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Speaker 1: reasoning of well, is the language of the malware in

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Speaker 1: the region that we want to attribute? Is the work

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Speaker 1: hours of where the adversary supposedly working about the same

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01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: nine to five in that region, or you know, do

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Speaker 1: they take up holidays that are specific to that country?

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Speaker 1: Those are very deductive methods. It's there's no pure scientific

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Speaker 1: way to do it. And just as Gary was talking

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Speaker 1: about Gary, what do you think about that? Absolutely? And Sean,

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Speaker 1: let's step back the biggest question of the day. Well,

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Speaker 1: I have two big questions for you. Did your vote

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Speaker 1: change because you saw how nasty podestin As friends are? No,

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01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: I already knew. I already knew it, but I just

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01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: but having invalidated was was something I think the world

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01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: needed to see. All Right, let's break in here with

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Speaker 1: this interview. And because Governor Scott is just stepping off

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Speaker 1: to the microphones, you guys can hang in there for

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01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: a second. I know this is rude, but I don't

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Speaker 1: mean to do that, but I want to hear what

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Speaker 1: he has to say on the Fort Lauderdale shooting here anyway, Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, the first thing I wanna tell you is

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Speaker 1: the assistance of Florida will not tolerate since its acts

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Speaker 1: of evil. You just can't imagine how just because how

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Speaker 1: this ever happened in a state like harts Think of

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01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: the innocent lives they are lost. We still, according to

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Speaker 1: the Sheriff's Department, we have five, as you know, we

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01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: have five individuals that have lost their life. We still

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01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 1: have people fighting for their life in a hospital. Whoever

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: is responsible will be held accountable to the full extent

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Speaker 1: of law. So let me repeat this. The State of

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Speaker 1: Florida says the Florida law enforcement this day will not

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01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 1: tolerate evil acts. Whoever is responsible will be held accountable

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01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: to the full extent of law. I have I heard

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01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 1: about this when I was in Fort Myers. Immediately came

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01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: over here and got here about one. I've stayed in

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Speaker 1: contact with the Sheriff's office. Sheriff Israel has done an

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Speaker 1: outstanding job, but the FBI, everybody involved is done an

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01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: outstanding job. There's been complete coordination between f Daly, the

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Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department, the airport security, all federal agencies. Everybody has

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01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: worked together. I reached out across the state, not only

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Speaker 1: to our National Guard to make sure they were ready

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01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 1: if there's any need for the National Guard, but also

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: airports and sheriff's across the state where a major airports

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01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 1: were to make sure what every resources they need the

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01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: state was available to provide those resources. My heart goes

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01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: out to every family impacted, the families that lost their

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Speaker 1: loved ones, and the family and the individuals that have

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01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: loved ones still in a hospital fighting for their life.

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Speaker 1: You can't imagine how this could happen to any family

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01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, but clearly we don't every want

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01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 1: this has happened in our great state. I have reached

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Speaker 1: out to Prisident elect Trump and spoken with him and

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01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: Vice President elect Pence multiple times to keep them informed,

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01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: and they told me whatever resources that we need from

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Speaker 1: the phedograment, they would do everything in their power to

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01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: make that happen. My number one priority right here, right

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01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: now and for it is to keep everybody safe. Everybody

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01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: lives in our state, to everybody that travels to state,

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01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: do everything we can hit them safe. As you know

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Speaker 1: we have, this is an ongoing investigation. There's a lot

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01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: of information that law enforcement will put out at the

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01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: time that they can put that out, and they'll do

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Speaker 1: that as quickly as they can. All right, let's Governor

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Speaker 1: Rick Scott holding a press conference on the shooting at

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Speaker 1: Fort lauda day are five confirmed dead, eight injured. Now

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Speaker 1: for our affiliates across the Shawan Hannity Show network. We

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01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: are going to give you the option on what you

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01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 1: want to do. On this local break. We will stay

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Speaker 1: with these press conference. How did I get here? I

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01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: flew into executive Airport's under needs and remind security and

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Speaker 1: precurity tracks, remind security rangers. I don't believe. So I

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01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: came in, I came to the I came here as

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Speaker 1: quickly as I could, uh stay in for and make

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01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: sure that whatever resources the state need to provide. Um,

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01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: I made sure that the sheriff knew that, the airport

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01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: knew that. But on top of that, I did that

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: for airports and sheriff departments across the state, on top

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01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: of the talking to a national guard to make sure

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01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: they were already. What information do you have A we have,

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Speaker 1: This is an ongoing investigation. All that in for sation

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01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: will be released through the Sheriff's department at the appropriate time. Again, please,

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01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: we don't have details right now, but we'll be that

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01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: will be released at the appropriate time right now. The

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01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: biggest thing to do is pray for him. Um, you

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01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: know when't we went through pulse. The biggest thing is,

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01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 1: you know, pray for those you know, the individuals ended

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Speaker 1: up in the hospital. Pray that every one of them

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Speaker 1: survivesd I've not talked to prisoner Obabba. You know, President

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01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: Obama is not reach out to me, but I've talked

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Speaker 1: to I've talked to Vice president and President Obama didn't

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01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: reach out to Rick Scott's quite a few times. Just

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01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: keep them, but Pence and Trump did. All right, I'm

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01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: sorry it interrupted, but this look, this is an ongoing investigation. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Sheriff's department release information as as quickly as they can.

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Speaker 1: I reached out to President elect Trump. Uh, and VI

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01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: suppose Elect H. Pence, which you didn't call the president.

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Speaker 1: You called the president elect. You didn't absolutely would be

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01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: a perfect president for resources I have. I have a

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01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: personal relationship with Vice President Pence and President like Trump,

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01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: and I reached out any other questions, she said, be

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01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: a man on web ins andeer reports. Look, this is uh,

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Speaker 1: it's horrible what happened here. Uh, it's not time to

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01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: be political. It's the time to mourn those a lost

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: your life. Finished investigation, and pray for everybody they're still

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Speaker 1: fighting for their life. To do something as far as

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Speaker 1: fire ups and concernuit you mentioned Pouls this is now

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Speaker 1: another incident. Maybe have a shooting on a large scale

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Speaker 1: because something you can to obviously have admissions to run

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Speaker 1: in the center. Do you think it's something that's having

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01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 1: grow in sane and nationally, because remember, this is a

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01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: senseless act of evil. We are going to hold whoever

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01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: did this accountable. It's not time to do politics. It's

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01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 1: a time to remember we have an active investigation. Finish

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01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: the investigation. More than those are lost her life, and

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Speaker 1: pray for those they're still fighting for their life. Thanks everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's Florida Governor Rick Scott. A couple of revelations. They're

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Speaker 1: a bit surprising, but I actually Linda remembered this and

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01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: I had forgot. Apparently Obama never reached out in the summer.

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Speaker 1: Remember when Omar Maten went on the shooting rampage at

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Speaker 1: that Orlando nightclub, at the Pulse nightclub, and it didn't

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Speaker 1: contact him. Then wow, um, well, at least at least

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Speaker 1: the new sheriff when he gets in town. Fourteen days

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Speaker 1: from today, we're going to have the swearing in of

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Speaker 1: a new president. The era of Obama is going to

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Speaker 1: be wiped out in seconds of Obama's agenda. Look if

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Speaker 1: you rule by executive fiat. If you're ruled by executive order,

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Speaker 1: if you're ruled by the pen, then they it's easily undone.

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Speaker 1: And Trump apparently is cutting shorts inaugural breakdoy I know

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Speaker 1: him so well, like three hours, no no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we could do it in ninety minutes. I'm sure that's

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Speaker 1: how that conversation went. Fifteen balls, I'll go to three.

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Speaker 1: That's that's how he rolls. I want to work. He

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Speaker 1: wants to roll up his sleeves and work. You know

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Speaker 1: the times that I have talked to Mr Trump privately.

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Speaker 1: You know what time I talked to him midnight, one

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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. He's always up. It's the best

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Speaker 1: time to get a hold of him. And um, that's

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Speaker 1: just the It's gonna be a very different you watch

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Speaker 1: between him and Obama is gonna be pretty dramatically different.

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Speaker 1: Have zero doubt you're gonna see the Oval Office light

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Speaker 1: on a little bit later into the night as he's

1505
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: probably working, and he works all night. That's you know,

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01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: private businessmen, they don't have anybody else to rely on.

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Speaker 1: And I know from my own private business endeavors over

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Speaker 1: the years that you know what, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, you can't get anybody to do it for

1510
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Speaker 1: You gotta do it yourself. You've gotta be hands on,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta hire the right people. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: I didn't have the right radio staff, my job would

1513
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: be fifty times harder as annoying as Linda can be

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01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: with her snarky remarks in my ear. And you know,

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01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 1: if I'm doing a segment that she doesn't particularly like,

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01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: or if I push back, she has four three or

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Speaker 1: four pet topics that she insists that I do regularly,

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01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: whether they're in the news or not. And I say no,

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01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: not today. She's just gonna be cranky to make me

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Speaker 1: miserable enough that the next time I'll do it. So

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Speaker 1: there's a method behind your madness. Isn't that true? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's true, boss, it's true. Tell me go ahead put

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Speaker 1: your first of all, I said, you did a great job,

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Speaker 1: and you were a consummate professional with your handling of

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Speaker 1: this tragedy, in this tragic news and you did a

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01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: really good job. You're being really nice, and you know

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01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: I I I don't want to cover these stories anymore.

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01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the words anymore. Are thoughts

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01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: and prayers and with and then they are with the people.

1530
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: But I don't want to say an I'm so sick

1531
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: and tired of these shootings. And I just know in

1532
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: my heart of hearts that evil is always going to

1533
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Speaker 1: be with us. You know, the whole story of human

1534
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: history and existence. You must recognize evil exist. I wrote

1535
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Speaker 1: a whole book about it, and I was compelled to

1536
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Speaker 1: write it. I hate writing books. Writing books is hard.

1537
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Speaker 1: You gotta write it, you gotta edit it, you gotta

1538
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Speaker 1: re edit it, you gotta polish it, you gotta paint it,

1539
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Speaker 1: you gotta finish it, and then you gotta ask people

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Speaker 1: to buy it, and you gotta go on book tours.

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01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: Um so I uh, I'm I do care for these people.

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01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: There there are five families today, five that will never

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01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: see their loved ones again. There are families from nine eleven.

1544
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Speaker 1: Do you think they ever got over losing their moms

1545
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Speaker 1: and dads. I don't think so. They think about it.

1546
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: They live with that. There's a hole in their heart

1547
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: every day and it's painful. And we go from shooting

1548
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Speaker 1: to shooting to shooting, and we forget that. Now some

1549
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: of you, you, at some point this will be turned

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01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 1: into a gun issue. Well, I go back to San Bernardino.

1551
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Speaker 1: I've been carrying a gun my entire adult life. Now

1552
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: do you want me in the room when the guy

1553
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: reloads with my gun or not. I took a test

1554
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Speaker 1: down in Florida. Bulls eye, bulls eye, bulls eye, bulls eye,

1555
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: bulls eye, bulls eye. And the guy's like, wow, you

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Speaker 1: really you've shot before? And I go yeah, and I

1557
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: can't see anymore either, and he laughed. I had to

1558
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Speaker 1: take a time. I got my Florida gun license. I

1559
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: didn't tell you that. Yeah, alright, eight nine one sewn

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Speaker 1: I feel good. I feel like it's just the way

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Speaker 1: you have a lot of other things you gotta worry about.

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Speaker 1: I have to worry about how much air do I

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Speaker 1: have left. I gotta worry about my buddy, you know,

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Speaker 1: because he's watching me and I'm watching him, making sure

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Speaker 1: make him proud, make everyone proud. So I try to

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Speaker 1: do that with everything I do. Being a woman, it's

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Speaker 1: amount of gear that Amanda does, and we have to

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Speaker 1: do the same amount of pull up set amandas for

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if you have heard that. It

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Speaker 1: is a legislation for the future, not just about health

1651
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 1: care for America, but about a healthier America where preventive

1652
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: care is not is not something that you have to

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Speaker 1: pay a deductible for or out of pocket. That prevention prevention,

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Speaker 1: preventions about diet, not diabetes. It's it's going to be very,

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Speaker 1: very exciting, but we have to pass the bill so

1656
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Speaker 1: that you can find out what is in it away

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Speaker 1: from the fog of the controversy. Repeal Affordable Care Act.

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01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: That's a problem. Lifetime limits, that's a problem. If you're

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Speaker 1: a senior. You know Medicaid. Almost half of Medicaid is

1660
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Speaker 1: about long term health care. Do you want Grandma living

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Speaker 1: in the guest room you you repeal the Affordable Care Act.

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Speaker 1: This is part of an initiative that is part of

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Speaker 1: the Ryan budget that says we're going to voucherize Medicare,

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Speaker 1: We're going to block grant Medicaid. So this has a

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Speaker 1: tremendous assault on the health and the health security and

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Speaker 1: the financial security that goes with what the Affordable Care

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Speaker 1: Act has done. For the American people, and so make

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Speaker 1: America sick again? Is that what the Republicans want to do?

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Speaker 1: I certainly hope not hopefully we can work together to

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Speaker 1: find a path to address some of the concerns they

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01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 1: may have, but not to undermine this pillar of economic

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Speaker 1: and health security for the American people. It stands right

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Speaker 1: there with Social Security, which they want to undermine, Medicare

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Speaker 1: and Medicaid, which they want to earnermine. Affordable Care Act.

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Speaker 1: So the President assets are you ready? Do you have

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Speaker 1: the fight in you? He didn't need to ask us

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Speaker 1: that question, I don't think, because the first big fight

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Speaker 1: of this new Congress will be over healthcare. Republicans are

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Speaker 1: plotting and soon we'll be executing a full care, full

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Speaker 1: scale assault on the three pillars that support the American

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Speaker 1: health care system, the Affordable Care Act, Medicare, and Medicaid.

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Speaker 1: The Republican plan to cut health care wouldn't make America

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Speaker 1: great again. It would make America sick again and lead

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Speaker 1: to chaos. Instead of affordable care, Republicans would create chaos

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Speaker 1: in the health care system. Because they're stuck between a

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Speaker 1: rock and a hard place. They have no idea what

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Speaker 1: to put in place. Of the Affordable Care Act. For

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01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: years they've talked about repeal, but for five years now

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01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: they have had nothing to put in its place. If

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Speaker 1: you like your doctor, you will be able to keep

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01:34:57,080 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 1: your doctor. Period. If you've got all the church, like

1692
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor.

1693
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: You can keep your plan, no matter what you've heard.

1694
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: If you like your doctor or healthcare plan, you can

1695
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 1: keep it under the reform we seek. If you like

1696
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: your doctor, you can keep your doctor. A system where

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01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna work with your employers to lower your premiums

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01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: by up to per family per year. We will start

1699
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: by reducing premiums by as much as per family. Here's

1700
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 1: what Change is saying to people who already have health

1701
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 1: insurance and the employers who are providing it, will work

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01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: to lower your premiums by up to dollars per family

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01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: per year. I also have a health care plan that

1704
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 1: would say the average family on the premiums, and if

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01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,839
Speaker 1: you already have healthcare, then we're gonna reduce costs uh

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01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:51,679
Speaker 1: an average of per family on premiums. We're gonna work

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01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,799
Speaker 1: with your employer to lower the costs of your premiums

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01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 1: by up to a year and we'll cut the cost

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01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 1: of a typical families healthcare by up to per year.

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01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: And if you've got healthcare, we're gonna work with your employer.

1711
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: It's a lower your premiums her family. What did I

1712
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 1: tell you on Monday? I said, be prepared. This year

1713
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 1: is going to be a battle. Donald Trump wants to

1714
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 1: fundamentally transform not only the economy by lowering corporate tax

1715
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 1: rates and repatriation, repealing replacing Obamacare, energy independence, education back

1716
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: to the state's choice and education, building the wall, vetting refugees,

1717
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices. I said, you can't vote and just

1718
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: think it's all gonna happen. If you're not prepared for

1719
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: a battle this year and a fight on every one

1720
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: of these issues, then there is a chance this opportunity

1721
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: is going to be squandered. And we need to get

1722
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: the country back on the right trajectory. So the first

1723
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 1: thing that the Democrats always do as they resort to

1724
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: their fear tactics, Oh do you want? By the way,

1725
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: is it me? I didn't even recognize Nancy Pelosi's voice anymore.

1726
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 1: It's it's bizarre anyway. So Grandma is gonna live in

1727
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: the basement, well with all due respect, my mother in

1728
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: law has lived in an apartment in my house that

1729
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: I built for her for years. She only recently moved

1730
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: to the villages. And I don't know if she's wearing

1731
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 1: the gold or silver shoes. I give her a hard

1732
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 1: time about it all the time, but she's in the

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01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: villages and having the time of her life. But she

1734
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: comes home and lives with us. So I mean, I

1735
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,799
Speaker 1: love my mother in law. She's awesome, great lady. Sometimes

1736
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 1: a painting in the neck, but she likes me mostly.

1737
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 1: Um she dogs love her. She's great with the kids.

1738
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: He's the only grandparent my kids have. They never knew

1739
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: my parents. They never met my parents. You know, my

1740
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 1: father in law died when they were very young. I mean,

1741
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 1: it's it's she's They've been their only grandparents. It's great

1742
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 1: to have her around anyway. So you know, I don't

1743
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: know what that means, like that's a punishment to have

1744
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 1: your relatives living with you. I don't think so. I

1745
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 1: love having my family at my house. I'm sure most

1746
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 1: of you do. Now, the Kaiser I've been telling you

1747
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 1: all week. So they're gonna try and scare old people.

1748
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna try and scare you to death. Every promise

1749
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,679
Speaker 1: they made was broken. Millions of Americans lost their doctors,

1750
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 1: millions of Americans lost their plans, and the Kaiser Foundation,

1751
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 1: I've been giving you a wrong number. I've been saying,

1752
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: on average, since Obama has been president two thousand and nine,

1753
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: healthcare costs per family have gone up. For I've been wrong.

1754
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,879
Speaker 1: The Kaiser Foundation updated those numbers. The average family increase

1755
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,759
Speaker 1: for health premiums is fifty six hundred dollars under Obama.

1756
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 1: That does not include if you live in Arizona, the

1757
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen percent increase you're going to be seeing

1758
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: this year, or all the other states that are seeing

1759
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 1: double digit increases on average about thirty So yeah, Republicans

1760
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 1: actually have nine different replacement plans. Now throughout all of this,

1761
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: there has been one person that has read this bill

1762
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: more than anybody else could probably cite the entire two

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01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: or three thousand pages of it by memory. Is the

1764
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 1: former Lieutenant Governor of the to New York Patient Advocate.

1765
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: She is founded and is now the chairman of the

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01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 1: Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths. Betsy McCoy is with US

1767
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: also Nick Fish as the National Program Director for American Atheists.

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01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 1: Welcome both of you to the program. Thank you, Sean,

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01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: Betsy McCoy. Fifty dollars on average, premiums have doubled since

1770
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 1: premiums in the individual market have doubled, That's what Obamacare did. Okay,

1771
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 1: Now there are differing solutions and plans. Competition, buying across

1772
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 1: state lines, portability, but also preserving pre existing conditions will

1773
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: be in any Republican bill. It always was yes, And

1774
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,640
Speaker 1: let me make it clear because there has been so

1775
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:47,799
Speaker 1: much fearmongering it's distressing to watch. There are approximately twenty

1776
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: million people who have gained coverage because of Obamacare. Sixteen

1777
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: million of those Shawn are on Medicaid, a program that

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01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: has been around since nineteen sixty. The Congress is not

1779
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: about wishing medicaid and the states that have expanded it, well,

1780
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: it's up to them, but it's highly unlikely that they're

1781
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: going to do a one eight and throw new people

1782
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 1: off the rolls. The Republicans simply want to make sure

1783
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 1: that taxpayers as well as patients are getting their money's worth,

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01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: So they're going to block grant Medicaid to the state

1785
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 1: because with all that spending and right now Medicaid for

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01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:23,919
Speaker 1: capital spending. Let me explain this block granting means instead

1787
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 1: of running the the financing through Washington, you'll get a

1788
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: bigger bang for your buck. The same amount of money

1789
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 1: will be spent, but you take is Washington basically waste

1790
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: through the bureaucracy about fifty cents and every dollar. Right,

1791
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 1: So decisions are going to be made closer to home. Right.

1792
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 1: And you know that the states will spend this money

1793
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 1: when it's a fixed amount of money much more carefully

1794
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 1: than when they just have an open line of credit

1795
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: with the federal government. You know what happens when you

1796
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 1: give your kids your credit card. Hey, they spend as

1797
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 1: much as they want. But if you say you've got

1798
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: a hundred bucks, make it, make it stretch, make it

1799
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 1: go someplace. They spend money wisely. And that's what we

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01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: need because all the studies show that for all this

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01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: new medicaid spending, we're not seeing the kind of improvement

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01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: in patients health that we should be. Reductions and high

1803
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 1: blood pressure, controlling diabetes. We want to see the results.

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01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 1: I agree, all right, Nick Fish, you're the National Program

1805
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: Director American Atheists. Do you like Obamacare? From an atheist perspective.

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01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 1: The Affordable Care Act is in something that we weighed

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01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 1: in on policy side of things. You know, we're not

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01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: a healthcare thing. But one of the problems that we

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01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 1: had with the Affordable Care Act was creating all sorts

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01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: of exemptions and little carve outs for groups on the

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Speaker 1: basis of religion. Um So from from that angle, to

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01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: be perfectly honestly, you're kind of boring me with this discussion.

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01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: I don't think the little sisters of the poor need

1814
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: to be buying plans that go against their religious beliefs.

1815
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,799
Speaker 1: And I would like a little bit of religious tolerance

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01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: from you atheists. Carveouts. Why should the federal government be

1817
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 1: telling us anything about that conflicts with our religion exactly? Well,

1818
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,799
Speaker 1: so so that what they put in place where minimum standards,

1819
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:03,679
Speaker 1: you know, and there weren't carve outs in the Affordable

1820
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: Care Act, and there aren't carve outs and all sorts

1821
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: of other things for people who object to blood transfusions

1822
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 1: or whatever else that's just included. A nick, let me

1823
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Do you think that if if

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01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: adults are gonna have sex, do you think they should

1825
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 1: be responsible for their own birth control? Well, I think

1826
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: that most adults are responsible for their own birth control test.

1827
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 1: So in other words, if, for example, if you're getting

1828
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 1: the pill, you can get it very inexpensively at Walmart

1829
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 1: for about nine or ten bucks a month. Problem that's

1830
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,560
Speaker 1: that's exactly the issue is that it wasn't inexpensive. The

1831
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 1: problem with you know, not covering these sorts of things

1832
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 1: and not providing preventative care is that it increases and

1833
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure Betsy knows this as well as anyone. It

1834
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: increases outcomes overall, that it's much more expensive to have

1835
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: a complicated pregnancy, if you have an ectopic pregnancy, than

1836
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: it is to just provide a different type of birth control.

1837
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: That might let me go back to Betsy Firman, because

1838
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: this is really important. I would argue that the Republicans,

1839
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 1: if they're gonna make this healthcare transition successful, I agree

1840
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 1: with block granting money back to states, taking it out

1841
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 1: of the wash in bureaucracy. I also think that you've

1842
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,719
Speaker 1: you've got to be very careful with every dollar you spend.

1843
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 1: The best way to do that is taken out of

1844
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 1: the hands of the bureaucrats and maybe even an outside

1845
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, accountant can be responsible for the movement

1846
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 1: of that money. The second thing that I think is

1847
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 1: most important is competition, allow the free market, allow portability,

1848
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 1: job to job, allow people to buy across state lines, competition.

1849
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 1: And what's gonna happen is those companies that left, like Etna,

1850
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 1: Humana and Blue Cross and Blue Shield and United, They're

1851
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 1: all gonna want to get back in the business because

1852
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 1: this is what they do. That's right. And furthermore, let

1853
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 1: me just make it very clear. I've been working on

1854
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: this for days now, looking very carefully at the wording

1855
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: and the numbers. The people who have pre existing conditions

1856
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,680
Speaker 1: will be fully protected. That is the most important thing

1857
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: to tell people that. Yet I've read every single one

1858
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 1: of these plans, looked at the budget numbers, considered how

1859
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 1: much it's gonna cost, and I can say that people

1860
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 1: in the individual market with pre existing conditions will be

1861
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 1: taken care of. Hang on a second, Nick, have you

1862
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 1: read any of the plans? Yeah? Absolutely, better way. And

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01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 1: I've looked at prices plan as well. So you looked

1864
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 1: at you read it. I haven't read it. Haven't read well.

1865
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 1: I have word for word, and I'm telling you that

1866
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:22,599
Speaker 1: those plans provide for two things. They provide that people

1867
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:26,520
Speaker 1: with pre existing conditions will be able to get federally

1868
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 1: funded health insurance through high risk pools. And why is

1869
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: that better. I'll give you an example. Before Obamacare, people

1870
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: in the individual market who had cancer could go to

1871
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: the high risk pool in their state and get a

1872
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 1: plan with on average, a thirty eight thousand dollar subsidy.

1873
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 1: That's what the federal high risk pool provided, thirty eight

1874
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, thirty two thousand dollars some years more other years,

1875
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 1: but a very healthy subsidy, and they could get care

1876
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: at a cancer hospital and see an oncologist. Obamacare plans,

1877
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 1: on the other hand, ends often exclude cancer hospitals, so

1878
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 1: people had to give up the kind of plan that

1879
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,520
Speaker 1: would provide them with real specialty care, and in ten

1880
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,679
Speaker 1: they were moved into these Obamacare plans, which, for example,

1881
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 1: in New York City, don't allow you to go to

1882
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 1: Memorial Slung Kettering. And we know from the research that

1883
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 1: people who were newly diagnosed with cancer, if they're not

1884
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: treated at the beginning and a National Cancer Institute designated hospital,

1885
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,719
Speaker 1: they have up to a fifty percent higher chance of dying.

1886
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:31,480
Speaker 1: So those people are going to be better off after Obamacare.

1887
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: You disagree, is that good ideas? How kind of that

1888
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,759
Speaker 1: is that most of those plans had, for example, lifetime limits,

1889
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: they had maximum What I'm explaining is that people who

1890
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 1: had chronic conditions were enrolled in high risk pools, and

1891
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 1: those pools really looked out for people who had those conditions.

1892
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 1: There was extra funding available instead of voisting the cost

1893
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: of the sick on the small number of healthy people

1894
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Speaker 1: in the individual market, which is why premiums have double

1895
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: the problems taking care of separately and put on taxpayers. Well,

1896
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 1: but so that's that's the question is how are we

1897
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 1: going to handle the people who are sick? And it

1898
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 1: is a very complicated question. It is something that because

1899
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Speaker 1: thirty states did it before. And let me just point

1900
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 1: out Alaska, this is a very inforting storation coverage. Alaska

1901
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 1: was facing a huge premium hike this year. So the

1902
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Speaker 1: state officials in Alaska didn't wait for Washington to solve

1903
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 1: their problem. The state officials said, look, we're going to

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Speaker 1: identify the people in our individual market where seriously or

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Speaker 1: chronical LEO, and we're going to set aside fifty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars in funding to take care of their health,

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01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 1: and then they were able to divert the premium hikes

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Speaker 1: that everybody know what I love about you, Betsy, and

1909
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: I used to make fun of you because you carry

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01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 1: the stupid bill around with you everywhere you went. But

1911
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Speaker 1: you know the top to bottom better than anybody else

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Speaker 1: in the country. And you've been proven right from day one.

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Speaker 1: God bless you for your hard work on this. I

1914
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,040
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Speaker 1: need to read more. Eight hundred nine for one Shawn

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Speaker 1: a part of the program. You know what. I never

1918
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Speaker 1: slept better. I actually brought my my pillow. I had

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Speaker 1: one cent where I was going on vacation. Thank god

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Speaker 1: I did. I never slept better in my life. I

1921
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 1: suffer from insomnia. I know many of you do too,

1922
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Speaker 1: and now I fall asleep faster and I stay asleep longer.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing what one pillow has done to change my

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1928
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1932
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1933
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Speaker 1: Hillary speeches on a pillow that doesn't work for you

1934
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Speaker 1: Be smart. Get my pillow at my pillow dot com

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Speaker 1: or call eight hundred nine zero nine zero promo code

1937
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1938
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Speaker 1: those pillows arrive, you'll start getting the kind of piece

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Speaker 1: bol and RESTful and comfortable and deep, pealing and recuperative

1940
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Speaker 1: sleep you have been craving and you deserve my pillow

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Speaker 1: dot Com promo code. Hannity's got more behind the scenes information,

1942
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: more contacts than anybody, but more friends behind the John

1943
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 1: Harry is on. I don't know if you have heard

1944
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: that it is a legislation for the future, not just

1945
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: about health care for America, but about a healthier America

1946
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,680
Speaker 1: where preventive care is not is not something that you

1947
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket

1948
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 1: that prevention prevention, preventions about diet, not diabetes. It's it's

1949
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 1: going to be very, very exciting, but we have to

1950
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 1: pass the bill so that you can and uh find

1951
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 1: out what is in it away from the fog of

1952
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 1: the controversy. Repeal Affordable Care Act, that's a problem. Lifetime limits,

1953
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 1: that's a problem. If you're a senior, you know Medicaid.

1954
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 1: Almost half of Medicaid is about long term health care.

1955
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:23,679
Speaker 1: Do you want Grandma living in the guest room? You

1956
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 1: you repeal the Affordable Care Act. This is part of

1957
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 1: an initiative that is part of the Ryan budget that

1958
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Speaker 1: says we're going to voucherize Medicare, We're going to block

1959
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Speaker 1: grant Medicaid. So this has a tremendous assault on the

1960
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Speaker 1: health and health security and the financial security that goes

1961
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Speaker 1: with what the Affordable Care Act has done for the

1962
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: American people, and so make America sick again? Is that

1963
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Speaker 1: what the Republicans want to do? I certainly hope, not hopefully,

1964
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Speaker 1: we can work together to find a path to address

1965
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Speaker 1: some of the concerns they may have, but not to

1966
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Speaker 1: under mind this pillar of economic and health security to

1967
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Speaker 1: the American people. It stands right there with Social Security,

1968
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: which they want to undermine, Medicare and Medicaid, which they

1969
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Speaker 1: want to underline. Affordable Care Act. So the President asked us,

1970
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Speaker 1: are you ready? Do you have the fight in you?

1971
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Speaker 1: He didn't need to ask us that question, I don't think,

1972
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Speaker 1: because the first big fight of this new Congress will

1973
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 1: be over healthcare. Republicans are plotting and soon we'll be

1974
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Speaker 1: executing a full care, full scale assault on the three

1975
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Speaker 1: pillars that support the American health care system, the Affordable

1976
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 1: Care Act, Medicare, and Medicaid. The Republican plan to cut

1977
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: health care wouldn't make America great again. It would make

1978
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 1: America sick again and lead to chaos. Instead of affordable care,

1979
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 1: Republicans would create chaos in the health care system. Because

1980
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 1: they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They

1981
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 1: have no idea what to put in place of the

1982
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act. For years they've talked about repeal, but

1983
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 1: for five years now they have had nothing to put

1984
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 1: in its place. If you like your doctor, you will

1985
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 1: be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you've got

1986
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,679
Speaker 1: health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan,

1987
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 1: you can keep your doctor. You can keep your plan.

1988
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 1: No matter what you've heard, if you like your doctor

1989
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Speaker 1: or healthcare plan, you can keep it under the reform

1990
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 1: we seek. If you like your doctor, you can keep

1991
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Speaker 1: your doctor. A system where we're gonna work with your

1992
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Speaker 1: employers to lower your premiums by up to per family

1993
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Speaker 1: per year. We will start by reducing premiums by as

1994
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Speaker 1: much as per family. Here's what Change is saying to

1995
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Speaker 1: people who already have health insurance and the employers who

1996
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Speaker 1: are providing it, will work to lower your premiums by

1997
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Speaker 1: up to dollars per family per year. I also have

1998
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Speaker 1: a health care plan that would say the average family

1999
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Speaker 1: on their premiums. And if you already have healthcare, then

2000
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna reduce costs uh an average of per family

2001
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Speaker 1: on premiums. We're gonna work with your employer to lower

2002
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 1: the costs of your premiums a year, and we'll cut

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Speaker 1: the cost of a typical family's healthcare by up to

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Speaker 1: per year. And if you've got healthcare, we're gonna work

2005
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Speaker 1: with your employer to lower your premiums. Her family, what

2006
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 1: did I tell you on Monday? I said, be prepared.

2007
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 1: This year is going to be a battle. Donald Trump

2008
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:33,839
Speaker 1: wants to fundamentally transform not only the economy by lowering

2009
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Speaker 1: corporate tax rates and repatriation, repealing replacing Obamacare, energy independence,

2010
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Speaker 1: education back to the state's choice and education, building the wall,

2011
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 1: vetting refugee Supreme Court justices. I said, you can't vote

2012
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 1: and just think it's all gonna happen. If you're not

2013
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 1: prepared for a battle this year, and a fight on

2014
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Speaker 1: every one of these issues, then there is a chance

2015
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 1: this opportunity is going to be squandered. And we need

2016
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:05,599
Speaker 1: to get the country back on the right trajectory. So

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Speaker 1: the first thing that the Democrats always do is they

2018
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 1: resort to their fear tactics. Oh do you want? By

2019
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 1: the way, is it me? I didn't even recognize Nancy

2020
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 1: Pelosi's voice anymore. It's it's bizarre anyway. So grandma is

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01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 1: gonna live in the basement. Well, with all due respect,

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01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 1: my mother in law has lived in an apartment in

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01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 1: my house that I built for her for years. She

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Speaker 1: only recently moved to the villages, and I don't know

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01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:32,599
Speaker 1: if she's wearing the gold or silver shoes. I give

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Speaker 1: her a hard time about it all the time, but

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Speaker 1: she's in the villages and having the time of her life,

2028
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 1: but she comes home and lives with us. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love my mother in law. She's awesome, great lady.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes a paint in the neck, but she likes me

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01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 1: mostly um. She the dogs love her. She's great with

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Speaker 1: the kids. He's the only grandparent my kids have. They

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01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 1: never knew my parents. They never met my parents. You know,

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Speaker 1: my father in law died when they were very young.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's she's been their only grandparents. It's

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Speaker 1: great to have her around anyway. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that means, like that's a punishment to have

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Speaker 1: your relatives living with you. I don't think so. I

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01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 1: love having my family at my house, and I'm sure

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01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 1: most of you do. Now. The Kaiser I've been telling

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01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: you all week. So they're gonna try and scare old people.

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01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna try and scare you to death. Every promise

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01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:19,679
Speaker 1: they made was broken. Millions of Americans lost their doctors,

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Speaker 1: millions of Americans lost their plans, and the Kaiser Foundation,

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01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 1: I've been giving you a wrong number. I've been saying,

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01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 1: on average, since Obama has been president two thousand and nine,

2047
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: healthcare costs per family have gone up. For I've been wrong.

2048
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:37,919
Speaker 1: The Kaiser Foundation updated those numbers. The average family increase

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01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 1: for health premiums is fifty six hundred dollars under Obama.

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Speaker 1: That does not include if you live in Arizona, the

2051
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen percent increase you're going to be seeing

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01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 1: this year, or all the other states that are seeing

2053
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 1: double digit increases on average about thirty So yeah, Republicans

2054
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 1: actually have nine different replacement plans. Now throughout all of this,

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01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 1: there has been one person that has read this bill

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01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: more than anybody else could probably cite the entire two

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01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,160
Speaker 1: or three thousand pages of it by memory, is the

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01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 1: former Lieutenant Governor of the State of New York. Patient Advocate.

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01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: She is founded and is now the chairman of the

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Speaker 1: Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths. Betsy McCoy is with us

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01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:20,839
Speaker 1: also Nick Fish as the national program director for American Atheists.

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Speaker 1: Welcome both of you to the program. Thank you, Sean,

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Speaker 1: Betsy McCoy. Fifty dollars on average, premiums have doubled. Since

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01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: premiums in the individual market have doubled, That's what Obamacare did. Okay.

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01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 1: Now there are differing solutions and plans. Competition buying across

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Speaker 1: state lines, portability but also preserving pre existing conditions will

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01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 1: be in any Republican bill. It always was yes, And

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01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 1: let me make it clear because there has been so

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01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:56,839
Speaker 1: much fearmongering it's distressing to watch. There are approximately twenty

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Speaker 1: million people who have gained coverage because of Obamacare. Sixteen

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01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: million of those Shawn are on Medicaid, a program that

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01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 1: has been around since nineteen sixty. The Congress is not

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01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 1: abolishing Medicaid, and the states that have expanded it, well,

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01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 1: it's up to them, but it's highly unlikely that they're

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01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 1: going to do a one eight and throw new people

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01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,960
Speaker 1: off the rolls. The Republicans simply want to make sure

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01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 1: that taxpayers as well as patients are getting their money's worth.

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Speaker 1: So they're going to block grant Medicaid to the state

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01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 1: because with all that spending and right now Medicaid for

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01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 1: capita spending, well, let me explain this. Block granting means

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01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 1: instead of running the financing through Washington, you'll get a

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01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 1: bigger bang for your but the same amount of money

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01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 1: will be spent, but you take is Washington basically waste

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01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 1: through the bureaucracy about fifty cents of every dollar. Right,

2085
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 1: So decisions are going to be made closer to home, right,

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01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 1: And you know that faith dates will spend this money

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01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 1: when it's a fixed amount of money much more carefully

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01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 1: than when they just have an open line of credit

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01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 1: with the federal government. You know what happens when you

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01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 1: give your kids your credit card. Hey, they spend as

2091
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 1: much as they want. But if you say you've got

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01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 1: a hundred bucks, make it, make it stretch, make it

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01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 1: go someplace. They spend the money wisely. And that's what

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01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 1: we need because all the studies show that for all

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01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 1: this new medicaid spending, we're not seeing the kind of

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01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 1: improvement in patients health that we should be. Reductions and

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01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 1: high blood pressure, controlling diabetes. We want to see the results.

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Speaker 1: I agree. All right, Nick Fish, you're the national program

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Speaker 1: director American Atheists. Do you like Obamacare from an atheist perspective?

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Speaker 1: The Affordable Care Act is in something that we weighed

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Speaker 1: in on policy side of things. You know, we're not

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Speaker 1: a healthcare thing. But one of the problems that we

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Speaker 1: had with the Affordable Care Act was creating all sorts

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Speaker 1: of exemptions and little carve outs for groups on the

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Speaker 1: basis of religion. Um So, from from that angle to

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Speaker 1: be perfectly. Honestly, you're kind of boring me with this discussion.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the little sisters of the poor need

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Speaker 1: to be buying plans that go against their religious beliefs,

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Speaker 1: and I would like a little bit of religious tolerance

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Speaker 1: from you atheists. Carveouts. Why should the federal government be

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Speaker 1: telling us anything about that conflicts with our religion? Exactly? Well,

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Speaker 1: so so that what they put in place where minimum standards,

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Speaker 1: you know, and there weren't carve outs in the Affordable

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Speaker 1: Care Act, and there aren't carve outs and all sorts

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Speaker 1: of other things for people who object to blood transfusions

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Speaker 1: or whatever else that's just included. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: a question. Do you think that if if adults are

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Speaker 1: gonna have sex, do you think they should be responsible

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Speaker 1: for their own birth control? Well, I think that most

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Speaker 1: adults are responsible for their own birth control. So in

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Speaker 1: other words, if, for example, if you're getting the pill,

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Speaker 1: you can get it very inexpensively at Walmart for about

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Speaker 1: nine or ten bucks a month. Problem, that's that's exactly

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Speaker 1: the issue is that it wasn't inexpensive. The problem with

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Speaker 1: you know, not covering these sorts of things and not

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Speaker 1: providing preventative care is that it increases and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Betsy knows this as well as anyone. It increases outcomes overall,

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Speaker 1: that it's much more expensive to have a complicated pregnancy,

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Speaker 1: if you have an ectopic pregnancy, than it is to

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Speaker 1: just provide a different type of birth control. That might

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Speaker 1: let me go back to Betsy Firman, because this is

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Speaker 1: really important. I would argue that the Republicans, if they're

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Speaker 1: going to make this health care transition successful, I agree

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Speaker 1: with block granting money back to states, taking it out

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Speaker 1: of the Washington bureaucracy. I also think that you've you've

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Speaker 1: got to be very careful with every dollar you spend.

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Speaker 1: The best way to do that is take it out

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Speaker 1: of the hands of the bureaucrats and maybe even an

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Speaker 1: outside I don't know accountant can be responsible for the

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Speaker 1: movement of that money. The second thing that I think

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Speaker 1: is most important is competition. Allow the free market, allow portability,

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Speaker 1: job to job, allow people to buy across state lines. Competition.

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Speaker 1: And what's gonna happen is those companies that left, like Etna,

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Speaker 1: Humana and Blue Cross and Blue Shield and United, They're

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Speaker 1: all gonna want to get back in the business because

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Speaker 1: this is what they do. That's right. And furthermore, let

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Speaker 1: me just make it very clear. I've been working on

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Speaker 1: this for days now, looking very carefully at the wording

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Speaker 1: and the numbers. The people who have pre existing conditions

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Speaker 1: will be fully protected. That is the most important thing

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Speaker 1: to tell people. You can't because next that. Yet, I've

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Speaker 1: read every single one of these plans, looked at the

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Speaker 1: budget numbers, considered how much it's gonna cost, and I

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Speaker 1: can say that people in the individual market with preexisting

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Speaker 1: conditions will be taken care of. Hang on a second, Nick,

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Speaker 1: have you read any of the plans? Yeah, I've absolutely

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Speaker 1: better way, and I've looked at prices plan as well.

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Speaker 1: So you looked at it, you read it. I haven't

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Speaker 1: read it. Haven't read well. I have word for word,

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Speaker 1: and I'm telling you that those plans provide for two things.

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Speaker 1: They provide that people with preexisting condition will be able

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Speaker 1: to get federally funded health insurance through high risk pools.

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Speaker 1: And why is that better? I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 1: Before Obamacare, people in the individual market who had cancer

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Speaker 1: could go to the high risk pool in their state

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Speaker 1: and get a plan with on average a thirty eight

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars subsidy. That's what the federal High Risk pool provided,

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Speaker 1: thirty eight thousand dollars, thirty two thousand dollars some years

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Speaker 1: more of years, but a very healthy subsidy, and they

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Speaker 1: could get care at a cancer hospital and see an oncologist.

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Speaker 1: Obamacare plans, on the other hand, often exclude cancer hospitals,

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Speaker 1: so people had to give up the kind of plan

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Speaker 1: that would provide them with real specialty care, and in

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Speaker 1: they were moved into these Obamacare plans, which, for example,

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Speaker 1: in New York City, don't allow you to go to

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Speaker 1: Memorial Slung Kettering. And we know from the research that

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Speaker 1: people who were newly diagnosed with cancer, if they're not

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Speaker 1: treated at the beginning and a National Cancer Institute designated hospital,

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Speaker 1: they have up to a fifty percent higher chance of dying.

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Speaker 1: So those people are going to be better off after Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: You disagree? Is that good idea? Kind of that is

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Speaker 1: that most of those plans had, for example, lifetime limits,

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Speaker 1: they had maximum What I'm explaining is that people who

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Speaker 1: had chronic conditions were enrolled in high risk pools, and

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Speaker 1: those pools really looked out for people who had those conditions,

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Speaker 1: there was extra funding available. Instead of boisting the cost

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Speaker 1: of the sick on the small number of healthy people

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Speaker 1: in the individual market, which is why premiums have doubled,

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Speaker 1: was taken care of separately and put on taxpayers. Well.

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Speaker 1: But so that's that's the question is how are we

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Speaker 1: going to handle the people who are sick? And it

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Speaker 1: is a very complicated question. It is something because thirty

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Speaker 1: five states did it before. And let me just point

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Speaker 1: out Alaska, this is a very adverting storage coverage. Alaska

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Speaker 1: was facing a huge premium hike this year, so the

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Speaker 1: state officials in Alaska didn't wait for Washington to solve

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Speaker 1: their problem. The state officials said, look, we're going to

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Speaker 1: identify the people in our individual market where seriously or

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Speaker 1: chronic LEO, and we're going to set aside fifty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars in funding to take care of their health

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Speaker 1: and that they were able to divert the premium hikes.

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Speaker 1: That everybody know what I love about you, Betsy, And

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Speaker 1: I used to make funny you because you carry the

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Speaker 1: stupid bill around with you everywhere you went. But you

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Speaker 1: know the top to bottom better than anybody else in

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Speaker 1: the country. And you've been proven right from day one.

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Speaker 1: God bless you for your hard work on this and

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Speaker 1: do I mean that you've been great. Thank you Nick

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Speaker 1: Well you need to read more.