1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello nine O 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: two one, OMG years um, it's another episode of nine 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: O two and oh, but today it's a little bit 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: different because I am here just with my friend Amy Sugarman, 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: and we are sons Tory. She's out today. We miss 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: her very much, but show must go on. So here 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: we are. I don't know what we do. Want to 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: recap the next episode? Oh yeah, because I watched it already. 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: There's me too. There's important to stuff. We're ready for 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: the next episode, but we're gonna wait. So we're doing 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: something special today that you know, maybe a little, but 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: you don't totally know. You guys are surprising me. Is 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: there a cake involved? No, and you're gonna like I 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: think you'll like it, but I don't know if you're 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna love it as much as we would love a cake. 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to top a cake for me. 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: What we wanted to do is do even though we're 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: in season four, right, so we're only going to do 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: it really through season four, A deep dive into Kelly 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: where you sort of step out of yourself and you're 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: gonna really look like bird's eye view onto Kelly because 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of questions, Ah, the first one 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: being do you like Kelly? So for everybody listening, we're 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: gonna really dive deep, and we've got fans and listeners 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: coming on with their questions, and we got some fans 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: that consider themselves Kelly experts. Where I have questions for 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: all of you. Okay, okay, okay, this is gonna be fun. Yeah, 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: I think it's cool. Like I actually wish that I 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: was a therapist because I think that would have added 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: to it, or if we found a therapist. But my 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: first question, is this going to be like therapy? I 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: think so? But you have to be both because you're 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Jenny and Kelly, so you have to really look down 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: in through Kelly, guys and Jenny. So my first question 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: for Jenny. Okay, that's me up until season four, so 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: we're only going you can't like, try to think past it. 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: Do you like Hellie? Do you like her right now? Yes? 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: I like her. I think she's a good friend minus 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: the little thing you know that the Dylan and friend 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: a thing. Yeah, other than that, Other than yeah, good friend, 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: I think she's a good friend. I think she's learning 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: so much about herself. I mean that that age that 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: she is is so hard to navigate. Anyway, I think 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: she's doing the best she can given her circumstances where 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: she came from her mom and you know, her dad 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: leaving her. There's a lot of HAMA in this girl's life. 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of baggage, and so I feel like 48 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: she's doing that so much. We gloss over the fact 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: that she really doesn't have a father figure and her 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: mother was like a major drug guy, right. Her mother 51 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: was obsessed with herself. She was, you know, and you know, 52 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: a model. She was all about her. She was all 53 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: into the drugs and the parties and all of that. 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: But she just had this little girl kind of attached 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: to her. I think for the whole ride. I think 56 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: Kelly probably saw way more than she should have as 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: a young girl and grew up way too fast. Hmm. 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: And I sort of was thinking all about this last night. 59 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: It's like, even though the quote blended family went well, 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: right like that David and Kelly became siblings and Aaron 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: comes along, we don't even take into account how complicated 62 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: that is. Like they gloss over it a little bit. 63 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean it it reared its head at times. But 64 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: like that's a major life change for a teenager two 65 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: that I actually think Kelly handled well. I feel like 66 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: she was well versed in challenges at that point, like 67 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: she had had so much stuff that had gone down 68 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: with her, and I feel like when she I don't 69 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: think she was ever on board for the whole Jackie 70 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: and mel situation, Like she just didn't get it because 71 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: nobody got it apparently right and rightfully, so they didn't 72 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: get it, but Mel and Jackie didn't even get it. 73 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: But I think she was more she was excited about 74 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: having a family, having some sort of sense of security 75 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: and that like, you know, something to tie her down 76 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: to the ground and keep her, you know, in her, 77 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: in her body, you know, like on this planet, because 78 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: she was just kind of all over the place. And 79 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: I feel like that family, that family sort of structure 80 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: was really good for her. And she liked having a brother. 81 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: She loved having like a you know, step brother, Dave, 82 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: David Dave, I called him Dave, that's my oops. Yeah, 83 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: she liked having stepbrother. And then of course, you know 84 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to have a cute little baby. I mean, 85 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: it's weird because Kelly It's funny because Kelly is seventeen 86 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: eighteen and the baby came around that age. Right. I 87 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: have daughters the same age as Kelly who just got 88 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: a brand new baby into their lives. It is life 89 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: that'll imitate art. Who knows. I mean, it is so true. 90 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: It's like, and I know you're navigating that, and it's 91 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: not just unicorns and rainbows, No, it's there's there's a 92 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: lot of emotions from a lot of different people at 93 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: all times, and navigating all that is really tricky. When 94 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: did you have that moment where you're like, oh my god, 95 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: my kids are living in a similar obviously very different 96 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: situation to what you went through it with this character 97 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: just now, right, it's really interesting, do you know what 98 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean? Like obviously, yeah, I didn't even think about it. 99 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: I didn't put the things together until just now. So 100 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: many years ago, twenty plus years ago, when you've had 101 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: your started having kids like you never would have ever envisioned, 102 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, so parenting and all these things that Kelly 103 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: actually experienced. Yeah, and now being able to have seen 104 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 1: it through you know, a young person's eyes by playing Kelly, 105 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: and now I'm still continuing to see it through my 106 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: young daughter's eyes and feel all the feelings that they're 107 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: going through. But I'm also seeing it through Jackie's eyes 108 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: now and feeling all the things that Jackie is feeling, 109 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: So I got a lot of feelings. It's it's almost 110 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: ironic we're having this conversation today instead of in a 111 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: week after because in the next episode I won't. But 112 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: we see so much of actually what a good and 113 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: very emotionally invested mother Jackie is and what an amazing 114 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: sibling Hellie is, So we really it's almost like a 115 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: good whatever the word is fortuitous. I don't know the 116 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: how you say the future, but it's like you you 117 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: see some of what we're talking about really come to 118 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: fruition in the next episode. It's weird cool. It's weird, 119 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: for sure, but it's cool because I mean, life is 120 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: like that. You you've got to have some way of 121 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: dealing with stuff, like you learn along the way, and 122 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: if you don't take those tools and those little lessons 123 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: that you've learned, however you've learned them, I learned them 124 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: on TV, but they're still applicable to real life because 125 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: these characters were so based in real real people. So 126 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: if you can ask all that stuff elved. Yeah, and 127 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: as the time evolved, you became more the same person. Yeah. 128 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: Maybe Kelly and me, I mean yeah, mean Jenny and Kelly. 129 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: As the year went on, as we're getting into season five, 130 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: six seventy eight, yeah, you start to really merge morph. Yeah. 131 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we have people waiting, So I'll 132 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: ask one more question. Well, okay, two more questions really fast. 133 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: What would be three words you would use to describe Kelly? 134 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh God, what you could have given me these questions beforehand? Sugarman? Um? Okay, 135 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: like three words? That's so hard. I feel like she 136 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: is very compassionate. M. She is an impath yes, Um, 137 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: for sure. She gets very invested in her friends and 138 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: cares so deeply about whatever they're going through. M. One 139 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: another word that I mean, she's begrudgingly trust trusting, like 140 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: her nature is to trust people, but she keeps getting hurt. 141 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: Creepy sears. For a minute, she trusted her dad, you know, 142 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: she trusted her mom so many times, and that ball 143 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: was dropped. She wants to be a very trusting person, 144 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: but she's been throwing some curveballs in that area. What's 145 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: another word? I like those words? I spent a lot 146 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: of I did get the questions ahead of time. So 147 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: two words for me that really describe because I always think, 148 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: why do I like Kelly right, especially since so many 149 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: people are like team Brenda and the whole thing. Kelly's complicated, 150 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: which I like, She's not the one note. She's not. 151 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: She's not just what you thought in the first episode. 152 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: It's pretty popular, you know, the cool girl. That's a 153 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: good word. She's complicated. And I also find her to 154 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: be evolving. She is really evolving and finding herself, which 155 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: we will play this one clip because as we go 156 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: to the college, how could you not? Which I find 157 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: that she's evolving so much, which is why I think 158 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: I choose me resonated so much because the Kelly we 159 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: first met almost get like chills. Oh my god, it's 160 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: like my whole body's that Kelly when we first met 161 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: her would have never ever said that. No, that Kelly 162 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: that we first met was so timid and scared and skeptical, 163 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: like she was all the things that aren't going to 164 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: serve her best moving forward. I feel like, yeah, and 165 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: she was definitely like pigeonholed into this the stereotype that 166 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: everybody had of her, and she bought into it and 167 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: she believed it too until she didn't. HM complicated, thus 168 00:10:46,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: the evolving So Tom, you've met before. Tanya was on 169 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: another one of our episodes, and this is her sister Leah, 170 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: and I texted her last night because I wanted to 171 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: get fans, real fans, to find out what they think 172 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: of Kelly and to be able to say it to you. 173 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: So why don't we to start with that for Leah 174 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: and Tanya? What is it that resonates with you guys 175 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: about Kelly? What do you like about her? And don't 176 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: be afraid to tell Jenny what you dislike about her? Okay. Well, 177 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: one of the things that I loved so much about 178 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: Kelly's character, like ARC, was that no matter what she 179 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: went through, she handled it with grace, She handled it 180 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: with dignity. She showed her vulnerability, and she showed real growth. 181 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: And I know, like for TV, part of that was 182 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: just for the drama of the show and whatnot, but 183 00:11:53,480 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: for young women watching, it was really you know, inspirational 184 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: for us to see her do that. So, yeah, that's 185 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: so cool. One of the things that I loved most 186 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: about her, um, you know, she felt a connection with Dylan, 187 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: and she messed up the entire friend group because of it. 188 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: But in the end, you know, she was able to 189 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: repair those friendships and the whole whole friend group bond 190 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: stayed together. So I you know, I think they put 191 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: her through a lot of different things, but in the end, 192 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: it was about her just being vulnerable and her growing 193 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: from each and every experience that she went through. And 194 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: I was just piggy piggyback off of that saying I 195 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: didn't even really like I was. I was team Brenda 196 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: when I first thought the film, to be honest, Brunetts right, 197 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: and I was always the new kid. My family and 198 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: I traveled every two to four years, we'd move around, 199 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: so I was very I understood where's what she was 200 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: coming from. Yeah, But as she has if I have 201 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: watched again and again, I'm now more team Kelly. Why 202 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: what because of the journeys that she Yes, Yes, that 203 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: character went through the most out of everyone on the show, 204 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: and I think the biggest, the drastic, the drasticum drastic 205 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: experiences and the biggest transformation of every out of anyone. Like, 206 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: nobody liked Kelly in the beginning. She was a rich, 207 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: stuck up spoiled entitled, but by the end, you see, Wow, 208 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: she's one of the best friends of everybody. She also 209 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: was there the longest. I felt like you you really 210 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: got to see her really grow through the whole show. Yeah, 211 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: and then let I mean, let's also talk about like 212 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: her fashion, like that was something to really look at, 213 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: like her mazed and clothes you wanted those clothes, um, 214 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: and I just yeah, I think we talked a lot 215 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: about this her my sister and I about how she 216 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: just really you really felt for her. In every episode 217 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: it just kept you kept feeling more and more strongly 218 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: for her. And as an adult, I feel that more 219 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: than I did back then. I think I'm so glad 220 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: about the fashion too, because I think it is there 221 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: is something like they use the word these days, what's 222 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: that word they use on social media inspirational and like 223 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: aspiration aspiration. I don't even know what the difference as 224 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: you guys, thank god we have ATOK. So it's funny 225 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: when you say the clothes, like we're talking about her 226 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: in such a deep way, but at the same time, 227 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: it's like, that's why we watched this show. People in 228 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: fancy cars and fancy clothes like and you wanted that, 229 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: so I did think that doesn't belittle the character. It 230 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: actually is such an important aspect of why this show. 231 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: Thirty years later, we're all like, like, it wasn't that 232 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: people go on Instagram to find people to come on. 233 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: Today everyone's like pick me. I mean, like the Beverly 234 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: Hills of it all, and the scenery of that, like 235 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: beautiful place and all the other beautiful people in cars, 236 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: and the makeup and the hair in the clothes. Everybody 237 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: want they wanted to see that because there was no 238 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: Internet back then. They hadn't if you lived in you know, Ohio, 239 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: you had no idea what it was like in Beverly Hills. 240 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: So getting to see that was so exciting for people. 241 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: And I didn't really even think about that until I 242 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: became an older person able to think along the deeper levels. 243 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: But I feel like now I really understood why it 244 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: was such a hit with people. I mean, gosh, I 245 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: grew up overseas in different countries and I didn't know 246 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: anything about Beverly Hills or La at all, so it 247 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: was so, oh, that's what I'm getting into. Obviously, I 248 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: moved here a few years ago, and it's not like 249 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: that exactly everywhere. I wanted to ask Leah how long 250 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: it took for you to overcome? And I'm using these 251 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: words obviously you know we're talking about TV show. I'm 252 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: not crazy, but what happened with Kelly and Dylan when 253 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: you were team Brenda? Like, how long before you, as 254 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: a fan forgave her and liked her again? I mean 255 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: I was rootings for the Brenda Dylan relationships so hard. 256 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I just loved him and I wanted 257 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: them together so bad because I loved her. But I 258 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: think once you really figure see visually see like, well, 259 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Kelly and Dylan just amazing, this amazing chemistry that he 260 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: didn't have with Brenda. I think Brenda was great as 261 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: friends with Dylan. They were great friends eventually. Yeah, But 262 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: so I think you just over time you see that, 263 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: you see that relationship and obviously, like spoiler alerts, Jenny 264 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: like Brandon is you know the real one? And again 265 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: what I'm sorry I thought, though, I think I'm glad 266 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: you've said that too, because I think there's so much 267 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: Jenny and Luke in Yes, Kelly and Dylan definitely, like 268 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: I know Jenny very well and I had the great 269 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: luck fortune of meeting Luke very a few times and 270 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: you do see that, You're like on the podcast so 271 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: much too, So now it's like, oh, that chemistry was real. 272 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Like you guys, you maybe could have had a moment 273 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: in real life. You know, you kind of alluded to 274 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: that a little bit on the podcast. You had you 275 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: had an amazing friendship, and you've talked about that. So 276 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: it's like, as a Kelly fan from the beginning, I 277 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: never switched teams. I was always counting. It's like, oh, 278 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: that's so nice. They got along in real life and 279 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: they had a special bond and a special connection and 280 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: that came through. That came through on the show. For sure. 281 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I mean, being able to have that 282 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: relationship with him was what I was, you know, the 283 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: so lucky to be able to work with him and 284 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: be his friend. And I'm just really grateful for that 285 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: whole experience. I saw a TikTok last night, weirdly of 286 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: Leo Leonardo DiCaprio, like I know him Leah talking about 287 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: Luke Perry really coming up in Hollywood and how Luke 288 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: Perry was like at that time, James Dean, he said, 289 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to get it wrong, but I'm paraphrasing, 290 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: but just talking about how that was such a superstar 291 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: and not just like famous, but like the way he 292 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, had that energy, that star energy, and how 293 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: everyone looked up to him and admired him, and it's 294 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: like quality that they talk about, right, he had that 295 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: equality and he was such a beautiful man. He was 296 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: so handsome, oh my gosh. And and behind his eyes 297 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: there what you like you said before, there was a 298 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: complication behind his eyes, there was some sort of intrigue 299 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: that you wanted to know, like what's going on? And there? 300 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: Why are you the way you are? I had such 301 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: an in my own head last night trying to figure out, 302 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: like who is the leader of this group? Right? Like 303 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, in most like popular groups in high school, 304 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: not so much in college, but high school for sure, 305 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 1: there's always sort of the the leader, and it's like 306 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: is the leader Dylan? Is it Brandon? Is it Kelly? 307 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm never clear it was Brandon, yeah, but each episode 308 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: it kind of changed, right, Yeah, the a storyline that 309 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: he was kind of the leader of the pack that 310 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: that episode, I think, right, and I think in five 311 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: more seasons, six more seasons, if we had this conversation again, 312 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I think we would say, Kelly, maybe by the end 313 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: of the series. It definitely is exciting, can't wait to 314 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: watch it. Hang in there, hang in there? Did you 315 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: you guys watch it together? Was it ever like sisters? When? Yeah, 316 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: it was teamed Kelly and remember remember I used to 317 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: record it and send it to her overseas, so on 318 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: a VHS you would send yeah. Yeah, when the DVD 319 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: set came out, we definitely have watched many of episodes together. Yeah, 320 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: that's so fun, I know. Yeah, a full disclosure. I 321 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: am very good friends with Tanya, and so we text 322 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: obviously lots of things about the show, about the podcast 323 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: and like what do you like, what do you not like? 324 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: What do we need to do to the good? So 325 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: interesting is I have a handful of friends that literally 326 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: could teach a college class on this show, which I'm 327 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: sure there is in one of these colleges like Good, 328 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: Bad and the Ugly, Right, I mean, yeah, our age 329 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: group we've watched that show. Like I'm saying we because 330 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: I really feel like I know our fan base so well. 331 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: The people that watched that show were so committed to it. 332 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: You had to commit to watching it because it was 333 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: on once a week and it was at a certain 334 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: time and you had to be there, and if you 335 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: weren't there, you missed it, right and when and young people, 336 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: when they commit to something like that that they're actually 337 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: interested in or that makes them feel something or gives 338 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: them a voice, they forever that they'll remember that those 339 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: characters gives them a voice. Somebody was talking about how 340 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: like there are things you learned back when we were 341 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: teenagers from nine o two one er. That was like 342 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: real life shit, do you know what I mean? Like 343 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: you don't do this, don't do that, don't do Crystal 344 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: myth I'm learning right now, I'm David. That's not good, right, 345 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: Oh boy, so much? But yeah, I mean you really 346 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: do have to give some credit. I wish Tory was 347 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: here to Aaron Spelling for being so extraordinarily brilliant to like, 348 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: and Darren Starr of course too like and actually he's 349 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: so prolific. Still it's really interesting ahead of their time really, 350 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: and also our showrunners from Day Want, Chuck Rosen and 351 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: his wife Karen, and then of course Steve and Jessica. 352 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they lived and breathed these characters and 353 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: they meant so much to them and Chuck. I mean, 354 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: he really really put everything he had into this show 355 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: and you can feel it. And luckily he had you know, 356 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: he had Aaron watching from his offices and and Darren 357 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: watching from his desk, you know, and everybody working together 358 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: to make something that was memorable for people. Totally. Yeah, 359 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: you always forget the boots on the ground. Oh yeah, 360 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: there's a whole behind the scenes past, right for sure. Yeah. Well, 361 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: there was something else that we were talking about in 362 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: regards to Kelly specifically, is that she was kind of 363 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: like the first first of like hair Clue List or 364 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: mean girls, like the first of that that both kind 365 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: of female characters. Yeah that, I mean, I don't know 366 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: if like Heathers was that before A round the same time, 367 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: I round the same time, Yeah, around the same time. 368 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: There seemed to be a flock of those types of characters. 369 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: But it's interesting because we also were saying Kelly Cross 370 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: in those first couple of episodes as like you were 371 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: saying the rich girl started bitch, she sort of you know, 372 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: stuck up, and then all of a sudden she wasn't 373 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: that anymore, you know, like her story came out and 374 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 1: then the fact that she'd been with Steve or whatever. 375 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: But then she like leveled out, and I think the Twins. 376 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: The Twins came in and it was supposed to be 377 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: obviously a show about Brenda and Brandon, and then it 378 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: was this group of friends and each each friend kind 379 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: of led that particular storyline or whatever. Yeah, um, And 380 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: I like I loved seeing Kelly in her vulnerable sense. 381 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that it was refreshing, like, oh, wow, you're 382 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: not perfect. Yeah, you're not perfect. Yeah. I think it 383 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: was so much more fun to get to play um, 384 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: originally the bad girl, the bitch, you know, the spoiled whatever. 385 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: I knew that that was those were my marching orders. 386 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: But I know that if you sit down with me 387 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: for five minutes, you know that I that's there's more 388 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: to the story. And so I think that the producers 389 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: and the writers and everybody involved were really leaned into 390 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: that and said, oh, there's so much more we can Yeah, 391 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: let's explore what's going on. And the representation of a 392 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: young girl girlhaage, like super confused and super in over 393 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: her head and out of water. You know, all the 394 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: things that young girls especially then were Now we're all 395 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, we all know, way too much, too early, 396 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: but she was just figuring it out as she went. Well, 397 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: we all benefited from that. So I'm glad that they 398 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: that because we got to see all different sides of Kelly. 399 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm so glad we'll let them go. But 400 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm so glad they brought up the relationship with Steve 401 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: because I think that it's one of the things that 402 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: really stands out about Kelly. And we're saying loyal and 403 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: she had that passed with him, which we never really 404 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: were privy toight, we just know that it happened, and 405 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: I think we see the importance of that, the significant 406 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: of that, the loyalty you have even come out with 407 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: you know what happened at the Keg House with the 408 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: you know eny girl that said it's like you realize 409 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: that no matter what, Kelly is going to be loyal 410 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: to these people is even if it's an ex boyfriend, 411 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: she is going to be fierce about it. Right. They 412 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: were great friends. Stephen Kelly were really good friends. You 413 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: have always It's so as you say that because like 414 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: maybe I learned that from Kelly. Maybe I because I 415 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: am an extremely loyal person, like loyal to a fault, 416 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering just now, like where did I learn that? 417 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: That must be one of the places that I learned 418 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: that from because that I was modeling it for myself. 419 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: For sure. I can even in my mind see them 420 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: dancing at the prom and they always have that connection. 421 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was Jenny and Iron 422 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: or just Kelly and See, but like the chemistry and connection, 423 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: and it is a different chemistry then with Luke. It's 424 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: much more of this friend you might like brother's sister, 425 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: but like a friend. Yeah, that's definitely Jenny and I. 426 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: We that's our relationship. And they they really just kind 427 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: of wrote what they saw. I mean, even whatever they wrote, 428 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: we played it in a way that was through our eyes. 429 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: And you know, so it has so much of us 430 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: in it, So that's right. They can't write those facial expressions, right. Yeah. 431 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: I find it so interesting that even now, as I 432 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: mean an adult woman in your very early fifties, you're 433 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: learning so much of what you experienced on that show 434 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: you you drew from in your real life. I mean, 435 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: that's so interesting to me as an as an actor 436 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: that that's what you do, because how could you not 437 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: you spent so many waking hours working on that show 438 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: and becoming you know, such good friends and having such 439 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: good connections and relationships with these people that wow, you're 440 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: looking back going from you know, you're connecting. I'm learning 441 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: so much by watching the show back. It's crazy. I 442 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: never thought doing nine or two and nine or two one, 443 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: OMG would be like therapy for me. It's been so 444 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: cathartic and like, I've just had a different perspective on 445 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: so many things and then was able to, like you say, 446 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: parlay that into my real life and say, wow, that's interesting. Wow, yeah, 447 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: I love it. Well, we really appreciate you. Yes, thank you, 448 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: Thank youth. Talk to you guys. So fun all right, 449 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: bye bye. So then Ricky's next Jenny, Oh my gosh, 450 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: to have a sister, wouldn't it be fun? Age They 451 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: love the show like, oh we both do, Ricky, Like, um, 452 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it, 453 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: of course. Thank you. Where are you calling from because 454 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: do I hear an accent? Yes? Are you alive? Are 455 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: you live from there? Or where are you calling? Yeah? 456 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm live. Yeah, I'm in Australia. I know. Oh my god, 457 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were actually in Australia. I mean, 458 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: you can hear your you can hear the Australian is 459 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: what time is it? What time is it? There? Is 460 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: it a normal time? It's just going past eight o'clock 461 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: in the morning. Okay, that's too bad. God, that's fine. Yeah, 462 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: actually worked out perfectly. So yeah, oh my gosh, we'll 463 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: have at it. Asked me, what do you want to go? 464 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: You can say the bad of kel me good anything. 465 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: I've got plenty. But I'm sure you watch timels. Um. Well, 466 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: I guess it's more sort of you know, back of 467 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: house stuff. If that's okay, It's not about Kelly herself. UM, 468 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm really actually curious about, surprisingly is, um, 469 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: your relationship with Kathleen Robertson. Um, just because I really 470 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: loved the college years and especially the beach apartment times 471 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: with the three girls. Um. I just loved their dynamic 472 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: and everything. Um. And we just heard a few times 473 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: how close Kathleen and Tory were. I'm just wondering if 474 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: you and Kathleen were more co workers than friends, or 475 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, if there was a good friendship there, and 476 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: if you had any fun or interesting stories from your 477 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: time working with her, you having't babies at that? What 478 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: you would actually come in on the show like four 479 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: or five? Yeah, you're actually only a few episodes away 480 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: from meeting her. Really, Yeah, I thought, I guess I'm 481 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: so exciting season five. But is it at the end 482 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: of four. She makes a few appearances in four, and 483 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: then she really comes in in five. Well, it's interesting. 484 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: Nobody's really ever asked me this question or asked me 485 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: about questions you maybe had heard four two. So, um, no, 486 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: you you kind of nailed it. I was more of 487 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 1: a cast mate with Kathleen than a good friend. Um. 488 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: I think she and Tory gravitated towards one another, they 489 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: were closer. Um, but I always really loved working with 490 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: her and loved you know, we was always a good time. 491 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: I know that. And um, she was just a great, 492 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: solid person and had a great work ethic which I 493 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: really loved working with. And um that. Yeah, it didn't 494 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: go much further than that, to be honest with you. 495 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: In my recollection, I hope I'm not wrong. I hope 496 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: we didn't hang out all the time, and I'm forgetting it. 497 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: But what year did you get married to Peter? Me? 498 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: I was married before Peter. I know, but what year 499 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: did you get married to Peter too? I don't not during, 500 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: not during nine o two one or during Okay, thank 501 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: god Reggie's here, so it's torture. That's so sad. But sorry, 502 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: I've forgotten these things. Two thousand and one, Okay, what 503 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: was the date Ricky was in January? Or yeah? Yeah, 504 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: I only remember because I was I was fourteen or 505 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: people at the time. I remember it was on entertainment tonight. 506 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: It's like coming up some celebrity wedding. I was like 507 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: some nowhere. I don't even care about December. It was 508 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: you with that incredible headge. Did you watch nine two 509 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: one zero in Australia? Yes? I mean I was only 510 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: four or five when it actually started, but my oldest sixteen, 511 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: so she would watch it, and I was sort of 512 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: forced to watch them in that sense and memory, being 513 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: about seven years old, and I remember this guy ideal 514 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: and had to choose between brunette and the blonde, and 515 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: for some reason, this little seven year was like, I 516 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: wanted to choose the blonde, and luckily for me and 517 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: here we are, Oh my god, to keep going. I 518 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: want to hear your question that maybe Jenny's never heard before. Um, well, 519 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: so I know that it's hard for actors to watch 520 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: themselves back and you know, have a look at work. 521 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: But now that we're about well you're about a third 522 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: of way through watching, you know, not each one in itself. 523 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, how are you finding are you looking 524 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: at are you seeing things? You're like, Oh, I wish 525 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: I'd delivered that differently, or interpret that differently, or you know, 526 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: that's I'm really proud of how I've done that. I 527 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: think that's exactly what was right for the character, et cetera. 528 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: Like how is it now watching your work back all 529 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: these years later? I mean, that's a good question. Again. 530 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: I look, I don't like watching my current self now, 531 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: Like I don't watch what I'm doing right now, But 532 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: watching that young girl do this show is so much 533 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: fun for me because it's as if it's a different person. 534 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: But I do have this really like motherly sort of 535 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: connection with her in a weird way, because she was 536 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: so young and so green and so naive and so 537 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: just like really thrown into this crazy world of fame 538 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: and you know, all the things that came along with 539 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: being on the show. I feel like watching Kelly, watching 540 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: myself play Kelly. I'm really proud of her. I'm really 541 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm proud of what I was able to do as 542 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: an actress with absolutely no training to speak of and 543 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: no experience really, and that really, I think it taught 544 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: me to sort of act in a way where it's 545 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: it's more about organic, real feelings through the characters body, image, wardrobe, 546 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: makeup all those things. So like, I feel, I feel 547 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: what Kelly's going through, and I think that that is 548 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: a testament to even though I had no idea what 549 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: I was doing, to my ability to play her that way, 550 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm just so grateful that, um they 551 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: let me do that, you know that that's that's where 552 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: I learned sort of going off that as well then, 553 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: Like I mean, you guys were doing over thirty episodes. 554 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: I see a year crazy by the way, the amount 555 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: of episodes is just nuts. Yeah, it was like child labor, 556 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: weird broken somewhere like that would include you know, like 557 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: the doubles that you've mentioned, and I can only imagine 558 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: how um, you know, promotional things you have to do 559 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: for the show and everything as well. How was it 560 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: working on that, Like was it just so quick, like, 561 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: we don't have to time it on the tank. We 562 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: don't have time to really look at this scene and research, 563 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, especially as these went on, Your your character 564 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: went through so much that was it hard? Were you 565 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: wanting to do more research or preparation than time allowed? 566 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean especially with like the meteor stuff 567 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: that I had to do, you know, all the crazy 568 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: things that Kelly went through. Um, I would have loved 569 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: a little more time to prepare. But it was literally 570 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: read this script, get it memorized, show up on set, 571 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: do your job, go back, memorize something else, and do that. 572 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: You know, we never had any time for any rehearsal 573 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: to speak of, or like any you know, sitting around 574 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: talking about the characters. There was none of that. We 575 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: were really just flying by the seat of our pants. Yeah. Sorry, 576 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: one more, Ricky, got one that's gonna stump or try 577 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: try try one more. None of us I'm writing too, 578 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: like the ghostie side of things and everything. But um, 579 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: and you might not want to answer this, and that's 580 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 1: absolutely funn I understand it now. I hope he does. 581 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: There was an actor that was costing your love interest 582 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 1: in the seventh season. Um that both you and Larry 583 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: Mullen have mentioned that you didn't enjoy working with who 584 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: was it? Who was it? Dalton James play. I think 585 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: it was when you went tour they were promoting Mystery Girls, 586 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: and I remember I saw you playing. It was like 587 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: an actually, why don't you want to a game where 588 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: you probably catch you, Oh, your boyfriend's in order, and 589 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: I remember you, well, yeah, Well it's so weird because 590 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: I honestly can't like remember any like weird thing I 591 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: had with him, or like I didn't dislike him in 592 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: that I can recall. Maybe there just wasn't chemistry. I 593 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: think that that was more it that I just didn't 594 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: feel like a fit for Kelly, and so maybe he 595 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: wasn't my favor. You know, it's so funny, and I 596 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: know I'm obviously I'm not answering the question because what 597 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: the hell do I know? But like when we were 598 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: about to interview Paul Johansson, we all were like, oh 599 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: my god, because John Sears sucks so bad that you 600 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: get confused. You're like, okay, But Paul Johanson was like amazing, 601 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: and he's such a nice, cool guy and he was 602 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: such a great guest and everyone loved him, and like, 603 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: it was so much fun and he was amazing that 604 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: I do think, and even I, like have interviewed Paul 605 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: a million times. I even was like, oh, John Sears, Oh, 606 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: I wonder what can Dalton's character like characters sucked all right? 607 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: His character was supposed to be, you know, a good 608 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: combination of Brandon and Dylan because Kelly was between them 609 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: sort of at the time, and I never saw that 610 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: sort of you know, Brandon dealers about him. But I 611 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: was just sort of, yeah, curious, But that's absolutely fine. 612 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: I think that's so funny. And I know I'm getting 613 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting over my skis. But the two guest stars 614 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: that always stand out to me or I don't know 615 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: if they were guest stars or like semi regulars whatever 616 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: you call Jamie Walters and then the cutie that I 617 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: always say his name. His name's out of my head. 618 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: But the dates I think Donna like that cutie. I 619 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: think he was like, oh, which one before that? Oh 620 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: my god, I said his name the other day. I 621 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: was waiting for which one, Briton. Nope, Now I'm gonna 622 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: have to look while we have the next question. And 623 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: it's so weird how certain people with you know, arcs 624 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: stand out to you, like where you're like, you know, 625 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 1: like certain guests are certain people and you just totally 626 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: don't forget them, and then others you're like personal was on. 627 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: It's so bad. I feel terrible because if I had 628 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: a visual, I would remember it in a heartbeat, like 629 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh yeah, yeah, seen Alice. She didn't 630 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: do that many episodes, but she is like practically in 631 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: the core cast. It's like so interesting how much she 632 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: stands out and how certain people you forget. Yeah, yeah, 633 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Sorry, that's all I got. Thank you 634 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: for that. Good day. Wow, Thank you. I hope you 635 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: have a great day. You have a whole day ahead 636 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: of you. Thank you a getting so much good time. 637 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: I really do appreciate that. Oh my god, you gotta 638 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 1: come back when we do the deep dive into Donna, 639 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: because this is a deep dive into Kellers now and 640 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: I I just it's such an honor to you to 641 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: be he's sitting with do you. Thank you so much. 642 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, And thank you for doing this 643 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: podcast as well. Um, it's awesome. Thank you. I'm so 644 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: glad you like it. I love these people. Sarah will 645 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: take Sarah next. But oh my god, I mean our 646 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: fans for this crazy to be you, to have people 647 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: just love your work, love you love that show. I mean, 648 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: let's be real, they really love that show. And I 649 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: can't get why, like like celebrities get kind of addicted 650 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: to that, like and how it would be so hard if, like, 651 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, you didn't ever get that, because it's like 652 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: it's it is sort of like it's such a nice feeling. 653 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: It's better than people saying I hate you, you suck. 654 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: I really have to remember that actor's name. He's just 655 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: super cutie. I'll think of it. I cannot think of 656 00:39:52,520 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: his name. I can, Daddy, I'll get it. I'll get it. Hi, Why, 657 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so excited. I'm so excited. You 658 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: don't even know. It's like Amy, I wish that I knew, 659 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: I would have like looked like her in my office 660 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: right now. So the reason I wanted Sarah to come 661 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: on was also to sort of analyze, like a lot 662 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: of the people had questions for you, but I wanted 663 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: people that could also analyze Kelly, like the good, the bad, 664 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: and the ugly, like you said, Jenny. So Sarah will 665 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: you say, like, what is it that you're drawn to 666 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: with Kelly and what do you not like and why 667 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: do we you know, we get mad at her, but 668 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: we forgive her on the Dylan thing like it. So, 669 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many things. There's so many things. 670 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: There's also season one Kelly, and then there's like every 671 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: other season Kelly, so I will say that there's definitely 672 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: a separation there. My favorite Kelly was definitely like season two, 673 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: season three, season four, because I actually the Dylan. I'm 674 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: probably talking in circles, so stop me, but the Dylan 675 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: and Kelly storyline was my favorite, as I'm sure it 676 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: was many other favorites. I was definitely a team Kelly 677 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: all the way. But I felt and watching those episodes now, 678 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: and I know, if you guys discussed on the pod today, 679 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: we would have been so upset at your character for 680 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: doing something like that. But there was something about that 681 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: storyline back then that I was never mad at Kelly 682 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: for doing that. And I also didn't hate Brenda, so 683 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't like I was team A or Team B 684 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: or Team B or K. I should say, I just 685 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: just saw the chemistry and the attraction and that storyline 686 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: and how Kelly has flourished from season one to two 687 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: at that point, I guess it was three, and how 688 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: your life evolved from that point on, And I don't know, 689 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: I was just rooting that storyline to me still, I 690 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: still watch it all the time on Paramount now, and 691 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: that that I think was like the peak of when 692 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: people really got to know Kelly and whether they hated 693 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: her or not. But I mean, like obviously they knew 694 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 1: her a lot, like throughout, you know, all of like 695 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: this this stuck with Jackie from season one, um and 696 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: all the problems obviously that you've had throughout the entire series, 697 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: you mean, poor I'm not really doing this through right 698 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: now because yeah, yeah, so to season four. But I 699 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: do think that there was a season one Kelly and 700 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: then there was beyond that everybody really fell for. And 701 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: my favorite thing about Kelly, and I'll say this is 702 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 1: that I think girls loved her and guys loved her equally. 703 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: I think girls were in love with her and guys 704 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: were in love with her in sexual and non sexual ways. Right, 705 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: We talked about that a little bit. She's a girls 706 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 1: girl definitely through but also every guy had a crush 707 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: on her, but all so we'd like hang out with 708 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: her and like want to Like Steve, we were talking 709 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: about the beach with her, you know, and she's a 710 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: loyal girlfriend and a loyal ex girlfriend exactly exactly. I 711 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: think that's cool. I think that's a good um take 712 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: on it, because yeah, being a good friend was really 713 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: important to Kelly, and I don't think it mattered if 714 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: it was a girl or a boy. And I don't 715 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: think Kelly really led with her sexuality or her like 716 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, look at me, I am the hot girl. 717 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: Like she never really did that, So it didn't it 718 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: didn't like put people off, you know, especially girls that 719 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: she was just I don't know, there was like a 720 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 1: comfortability with her, I think right right, Like she wasn't 721 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: like that villain that I think that she was like 722 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: casted to be or mean you know that you were 723 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: casted to play that season one that Beverly les Brat. 724 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean maybe she was a little bit then, but 725 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: I think you evolved into the role and I think 726 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: that she became that girl's girl where she wasn't just 727 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: showing off and she you know, she was real and 728 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: she was just somebody that like I wanted to be 729 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: friends with like I wanted to be here, and this 730 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: is a weird topic, but it's like she's so pretty, right, right, 731 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: But she's not so pretty that you're like, I hate her. 732 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: She's so pretty, right, She's more like so pretty that 733 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: you're like, I love her. She's so pretty? Do you 734 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Right? But how would you saying 735 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 1: if it was the other way? Like, right, right, I here, 736 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 1: she's so pretty because there are those people that are 737 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: like there's a couple, there's people in Hollywood that where 738 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: they're like, they're beautiful, but there's something sort of like 739 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 1: where you're like, I don't want to hang out with that, Yeah, 740 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: where she's not that Like, No, Kelly's a good hang. 741 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm a good hang. Kelly's a good I agree, I agree? Yeah, 742 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: uh huh. I think that's interesting. So I asked, um, 743 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: thank you, by the way, Sarah, what would be three 744 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: words you would use to describe Kelly? And luckily so 745 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: for people listening, Sarah didn't hear the beginning. So I 746 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: want to know, like from you, what would be the 747 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 1: three words you would use to describe money. Um, So 748 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna say sexy Kelly, like those 749 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: scenes with Dylan in season three, like they just say 750 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I never really saw her sexy. Yes, 751 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I want to say that, yeah, sexy. 752 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: I want to say confident, but I feel like there 753 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: was a vulnerability about her, so um, loyal, loyal, loyal, loyal. 754 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: M I do want to say confident though, because I 755 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: do think that she knew how to own who she was, 756 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: like down the halls of Les Beverly, like she knew 757 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: she was Kelly Taylor, and she knew she was you 758 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 1: know who her place was there. But yeah, confidence good. 759 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: We've seen that recently with Steve being confident to stand 760 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: up for him and then also with John Sears being 761 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: confident to go now that I know you're a pig, 762 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm out. It took her, but once she by loser. Yeah, 763 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,959 Speaker 1: and I'm actually I don't know if you're at this point, 764 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,919 Speaker 1: but I was watching, UM, so I was telling Amy, 765 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm like rewatching with you guys as you're listening, Um, 766 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm paramount and I was watching. There's a scene when 767 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: you were off at the retreat with Brandon and he's 768 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 1: with Lucinda and you're still okay. I don't think you 769 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: are that far I want to talk about it. We 770 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: retreat and I'm so greed. We're about to watch the 771 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: episode where they go scheme, we're about to talk about okay, yeah, yeah, 772 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: So I'm a little ahead of you. You're just like, 773 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: I know, I watched it when I get ready for 774 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: work in the morning, and I'm just like, first of all, 775 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: I love people that I watch it. It's like a 776 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 1: sexiness about Kelly, like as a woman that I could say, 777 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: like I think that she exuded like I don't know, 778 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 1: there was just something so like I don't, I can't, 779 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: I can't explain it. It's a good word. I can't 780 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: let you watch it. I mean, Kelly, Dylan, Kelly and 781 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: Dylan together, it's like you wanted your TV to just 782 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: like combust. Like I actually like Kelly and Dylan right 783 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: now in the phase we're in another sort of reunited. 784 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: It's not totally clear. It's very comfortable. They seem very 785 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: comfortable with themselves, each other and the relationship. Yeah, it 786 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,240 Speaker 1: has season fourgotten to that point. I agree, I agree, 787 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: But I just I know that there's was, like you know, 788 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: there were so many different like sides, especially I know, 789 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: like Amy, you were saying like your Instagram was just 790 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: blowing up during the season three rewatch of all of 791 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 1: that and Team Kelly and Team Brenda, and it's it's 792 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: I think that will forever be like the hottest storyline. 793 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: Good years later, it's crazy to me because I again, like, like, 794 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: am I wrong for thinking there was nothing wrong with that? 795 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: Like they just totally I guess I'm wrong. I guess 796 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I think I'd say, maybe only a little 797 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: bit wrong, Like it was bad, it wasn't messed up 798 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: that she went out with her bed friend. It is 799 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: so my boyfriend, but he was her ex boyfriend. But 800 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 1: when yeah, but then it's yeah, a little it was 801 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: when I wouldn't and I would never do that to 802 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: a friend, especially I just wouldn't. But as I'm watching that, 803 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: I just didn't feel like, I know, I don't I 804 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: agree with you. I don't think that I would. Yeah, 805 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: condone that now, well and that's really weird. Okay, So 806 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 1: thirty years later, right, we get like people are mad 807 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: mad and they're like, yeah, you suck, and like they 808 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 1: get so blurred like you're not Team Brenda, why don't 809 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: you like Shannon? And I'm like like what but here's 810 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: what's so weird. If we're to buy into the characters, 811 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: Brenda is fine with it now it's like very weird. 812 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: Like so Brenda over at Dylan's with you, playing with 813 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: the sister, it's all hunky dory. So they're still mad 814 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: even though Brenda's not mad right right. I have loved, though, 815 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 1: to see like what I want to love more, see 816 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: more meat around that, Like how did they come to 817 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: being able to hang out together? And how did Brenda? 818 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 1: You know, what was her emotional journey with that more 819 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: than just like the sad way stuff, but like getting 820 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 1: to like being okay with it and becoming the friend 821 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: group again, Like I just sort of maybe some of 822 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: the confidence. I don't know. Yeah, I have heard about 823 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: that a lot too, because as I'm watching those scenes, 824 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, if I were Brenda, I could not 825 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 1: be happy hanging out with these two right now in 826 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: this big group no way, and just seeing and Kelly 827 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: and Dylan all lovey and hugging. And then she's just 828 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: sitting there, but she she's making the character think that 829 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: this is perfectly fine and I'm okay with it. Well, 830 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: but it flares up. Think about Thanksgiving? Yeah, that was 831 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: like bitter and then but I want to see that, 832 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, like when you watch The Bachelor and you 833 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 1: see the girls are really melting down. You know, I've 834 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: never watched The Bachelor. I watched The Bachelor. Now this season, 835 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm in, Okay, it's so weird is now you're watching. 836 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: It's not even that I have been so bad I 837 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: can't not watch it, but it's like I want I 838 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: want to see the meltdowns with Brenda and Kelly a 839 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: little bit more like I want to see the inner 840 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 1: workings of like what as women young women? Like what 841 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: how did that happen that they came back together? And yeah, 842 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: we never really got to see that, And I agree, 843 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: it just would have been nice to really explore the 844 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: dynamics because it's just like a couple episodes one by 845 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: and then they're friends again a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No. 846 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: I also wonder Sarah will let you go in a second. 847 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: But I also wonder too, like because when you when 848 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 1: you rewatch and like you get these clips on TikTok, 849 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 1: they that clip on TikTok of the the walk. Remember 850 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: when you have to do the walk with her to 851 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: find you know and tell her, Oh, my god, I 852 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: heartbreak watch today. So maybe we've watched that so much 853 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: that it's like imprinted in us. But we didn't watch 854 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: these all happy happy, they're fine, They're fine as many times, 855 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 1: so we're like, oh, that's messed up because we saw 856 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 1: it thirty times and we've only seen them like so happy. Yeah, 857 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: that that all that tension and all that drama really 858 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 1: did stick out for people, and I think stick with them. 859 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 1: Yeah a little bit. Wait, Sarah, you rock. We'll have 860 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: you back for sure. No, I would love to talk 861 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: about this all day. Thank you and Jenny. I Um, 862 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: I am going to nineties Con and I'm very excited. 863 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: I told Amy I was using my magic every which 864 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: way I I am. So I live in the city, 865 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: so it's a two hour car ride, I'm getting it's 866 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,439 Speaker 1: only two hours from the city. So yeah, it's a Hartvard, Connecticut. Wait, Sarah, 867 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,839 Speaker 1: do you have a husband. I do. Does he think 868 00:51:53,880 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: you're nuts? Yes? He saw my likes my like, he's like, 869 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: you are really good at your job. I can't eat 870 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: like the way. I literally was like calling up everyone 871 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 1: that I knew, like Amy. I bothered Amy. I was 872 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 1: like I would have made it happen. But I was like, 873 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: I have to get to this nineties con please, yes, 874 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: I need like I need like a group picture because 875 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, you guys are all gonna be there, like 876 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: you can get right next to my eye in and 877 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: feel good about it, and Shannon is going to be there. 878 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: I've never Jenny. I actually went to your book signing 879 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: years ago at UM Ridgewood in Ridgewood, New Jersey at 880 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: Bookends or something. I think that I've met you and 881 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: Crazy and I met Tory, but I, um, I've never 882 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: met Shannon and um Jason. I saw like they keep 883 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: adding people like I saw, wait, Jason's going, He's on 884 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: the website what and they added um like Rebecca Gayheart 885 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: now is going and god yeah, like they're adding all 886 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: these people and they're crazy. There are so many like 887 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: Saved by the Bell and full House and full yeah yeah, Charmed, Yeah, 888 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: thank you. I'm going to see you in Crime Crime Can. 889 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: There's your other weekend So just revealed herself, don't you 890 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: Crime Can? I promise? Okay, guys, Oh my god, Na, 891 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: he is coming. I'm so excited. I am excited for you. 892 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: That's so cute