Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky. Hey, Joky, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I said, Nandas. Please hey boo, it's me ros and
Speaker 1: welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I
Speaker 1: talk to people that I like about the Para normal.
Speaker 1: It is fully October right now. It's actually my birthday week.
Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for all of the well wishes. It's
Speaker 1: almost the end of October. Soon, we still have a
Speaker 1: little bit left, So please do me the favor of
Speaker 1: just telling everyone you know about the show, letting them
Speaker 1: know how queer and silly we get over here. But
Speaker 1: also we can get deep. We don't always get deep,
Speaker 1: and I'm very grateful because today's episode we kind of
Speaker 1: go there a little bit. There's some laughs, but you know,
Speaker 1: we get real, we get real, and I think it's
Speaker 1: really really great that we have these conversations. So we'll
Speaker 1: get to that in just a moment. First, let me
Speaker 1: read you a ghost story. This one comes from Amy
Speaker 1: Amy Rights. I was living in an old house outside
Speaker 1: of Saint Louis. It was built around nineteen thirty. I
Speaker 1: never felt anything weird there until my daughter was a baby.
Speaker 1: She would follow things with her eyes and laugh and smile.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? Like, Oh, there's nothing better than a
Speaker 1: child's laughter, something more special. A child's laughter is adorable
Speaker 1: and the greatest thing ever, unless it's directed at an
Speaker 1: invisible presence, or even worse, if there is no baby present,
Speaker 1: that's probably the worst. But anyway, this is the baby
Speaker 1: laughing at something that's not there. When she was about
Speaker 1: eight months old, we took her to the Lamp Mansion
Speaker 1: one day. Okay, sorry I keep interrupting this story. If
Speaker 1: you don't know about the Lemp Mansion, might I suggest
Speaker 1: you watch episode eight of the television show Living for
Speaker 1: the Dead on Hulu, which I am on, and it
Speaker 1: is a haunted old house in Saint Louis. Just watch
Speaker 1: the episode. Okay. So we just went in and looked
Speaker 1: around for a minute. That night, I fell asleep with
Speaker 1: her in bed with me. I woke up with all
Speaker 1: the lights on and a radio on full value. I
Speaker 1: liked to think it was Edwin Lemp, the fun one
Speaker 1: who followed his home. Because she was a very cute
Speaker 1: and happy baby. I would follow her home if I
Speaker 1: was a ghost. Then, as she got older, preschool age,
Speaker 1: she started talking about someone named Wilkes. She'd say, Wilkes
Speaker 1: is green and has weird hair and takes me places
Speaker 1: in the night. I looked up the census records of
Speaker 1: the house. There was no Wilkes. She said she woke
Speaker 1: up in the night and a man was in her
Speaker 1: doorway staring at her. He looked a little like Daddy
Speaker 1: and a little like Uncle Mark, but it wasn't them.
Speaker 1: I'd let her sleep in bed with me if she
Speaker 1: wanted to. For this reason, and because of the Wilkes stuff,
Speaker 1: my shit Zo, who was the sweetest, most docile dog,
Speaker 1: would growl and stare at nothing. Strange pictures. I don't
Speaker 1: even know how to describe them. They look like lines
Speaker 1: to me. They started appearing on the basement floor, like
Speaker 1: they were drawn in the dust, and then drawn in
Speaker 1: what looked like marker on our carpet. Greta, my daughter, said, oh,
Speaker 1: Wilkes wrote that it means, and then spoke some nonsense
Speaker 1: and gibberish. I would wake up in the night and
Speaker 1: see weird things, like a ghostly arm pulling the door shut.
Speaker 1: I prayed and saged the whole house, and it would
Speaker 1: stop for a while. And then start back up. I
Speaker 1: don't like the ghostly arm. That really freaks me out. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you Amy so much for sending me that. Today
Speaker 1: on the podcast, I get to talk to Detoks, the
Speaker 1: sensational drag queen that you know from RuPaul's Drag Race.
Speaker 1: She was also on Drag Race All Stars Detox coming
Speaker 1: at you with the slow verts. I'm just I'm absolutely
Speaker 1: obsessed with her. She's one of these people that you
Speaker 1: would think I would know, but somehow, like we just
Speaker 1: never really cross paths. And so I got to talk
Speaker 1: to her, and it's good. She's got stories and stuff.
Speaker 1: Before we get to that, are you watching The Haunted
Speaker 1: All my new YouTube series. I have now released three episodes.
Speaker 1: I'm doing every other week. Also, if you're in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles right now, when this episode comes out, I'll be
Speaker 1: doing Ghosted Live at Largo the thirtieth of October. I
Speaker 1: will also be doing Ghosted Live in San Francisco if
Speaker 1: you can get a ticket. Ooh, that is the twenty
Speaker 1: seventh of October. I'm about to go to Raleigh to
Speaker 1: do stand up. I've got all kinds of things. Oh. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing New York Ghosted finally, so find
Speaker 1: all of that in my linktree linktree dot com slash
Speaker 1: raz Hernandez. That is also in my Instagram bio at
Speaker 1: roz Hernandez. Okay, here we go. I'm talking to d
Speaker 1: Talks and with a show. Oh my god, I'm joined
Speaker 1: by truly one of my favorite drag queens of all time.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe my favorite. I don't know. I'm starstruck.
Speaker 1: A big inspiration to me in my later teen early
Speaker 1: twenty years dtogs Hi Hi, I remember when you had
Speaker 1: a last name Dtoxi khun't.
Speaker 2: I never used that last name. Jackie Bet gave me
Speaker 2: that last name when I first moved to LA, and
Speaker 2: it was something that was like, you know, back in
Speaker 2: the day, on like live journal and in my Space,
Speaker 2: you could create I don't know how old you are,
Speaker 2: but back in my day, we could create her own
Speaker 2: little handle and it was the Toxic Cunt based off
Speaker 2: of a Jackie Beat song from her Dirty Sanchez band
Speaker 2: called Replicant that I used to perform all the time,
Speaker 2: and I just liked the sound of it, and so
Speaker 2: she thought it was my last name and introduced me
Speaker 2: that way when I first moved to LA and I
Speaker 2: was like no, no, no, no, no, it's just it's
Speaker 2: just he talks, but it stuck and everyone thinks, okay,
Speaker 2: and I am a cunt, so I guess that. I
Speaker 2: guess it is fitting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, jack on your podcast, Yeah absolutely, Jackie, Well you're
Speaker 1: talking about Jackies speaking of and she is not good
Speaker 1: at names. She has been on this pod a couple
Speaker 1: of times. And that's my community service. The LGBT Center
Speaker 1: set me up with a LGBT elder and that's how
Speaker 1: I met Jackie, and I take her places. We got
Speaker 1: to lunch, and we sometimes talk about ghosts. Court appointed,
Speaker 1: court appointed. Yes, so you used to be here. I
Speaker 1: feel like you've lived a lot of places.
Speaker 2: I've lived all over the place. My dad was in
Speaker 2: the State Department and worked for Lockheed Martin, and so
Speaker 2: we moved quite extensively when we were younger. And I
Speaker 2: think in that in that regard, like the rest, like
Speaker 2: my other siblings all kind of have this nomadic spirit
Speaker 2: and like sensibility of just like, well, we'll just go
Speaker 2: wherever the wind takes us. And and ironically the wind
Speaker 2: has taken us all to Chicago. So now we're all
Speaker 2: in different suburbs of Chicago, which is kind of great
Speaker 2: cute and it's very cate. It's the first time since
Speaker 2: we've been kids that we're all in, you know, the
Speaker 2: same kind of vicinity. So we get to spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time together. And so the listeners at home
Speaker 2: who didn't just hear this, I was just on the
Speaker 2: phone with my mother and my sister getting stories about
Speaker 2: my youth for this podcast.
Speaker 1: Did you grow up in a haunted house?
Speaker 2: I don't remember it because my brother and I have
Speaker 2: a twin brother, and we were very young. I think
Speaker 2: we were maybe three or four years old when my
Speaker 2: family lived in the house. But allegedly we lived in
Speaker 2: this haunted house in Florida, in Orlanda, where we're from,
Speaker 2: and I grew up just hearing all these crazy stories
Speaker 2: of things that would happen there. So to like refresh
Speaker 2: my memory. Right before we got on the zoom, I
Speaker 2: was like, Mom, sister, what happened? How do I?
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll give it to us.
Speaker 2: Well, apparently I don't really know all the details, but
Speaker 2: my mom always said she moved into this place between jobs,
Speaker 2: so like my dad was about to be like restationed somewhere,
Speaker 2: and she was going to get her real estate license.
Speaker 2: So this is way before because when I was younger,
Speaker 2: all I knew of her was she was a real
Speaker 2: letor So this had to open when I was probably
Speaker 2: three or four, and my sister's seven years older than us,
Speaker 2: so she had to have been ten or eleven. But
Speaker 2: she it's funny. She was just telling me the story
Speaker 2: that she always felt like somebody was watching her anytime
Speaker 2: she was in her bedroom and she would always get
Speaker 2: weirded out. But another weird thing that my mom said
Speaker 2: was like as soon as they got to the place,
Speaker 2: like weird stuff was happening, my brother and I would
Speaker 2: always act bizarrely at night, like I've always been a
Speaker 2: night out. I've always been like a creature of the night,
Speaker 2: and I have always been one to, you know, get
Speaker 2: out of my bed and do weird shit. When I
Speaker 2: was younger, I remember a lot of those things. But
Speaker 2: at one point she caught us ice skating in the
Speaker 2: bathroom like with toilet water, like we were sticking our
Speaker 2: feet with socks in the toilet and then skating around,
Speaker 2: and she thought that that was weird to me. I
Speaker 2: don't find that very strange for me because I was
Speaker 2: a very flamboyant kid, and I loved my skating, so
Speaker 2: I was like, that just sounds like something I would
Speaker 2: do naturally. But she also told me that I would
Speaker 2: she would catch me walking into traffic, like we lived
Speaker 2: close to a busy street, I guess, and she would
Speaker 2: just see me like kind of zoned out. And my
Speaker 2: sister just confirmed this too, and I would constantly walk
Speaker 2: out into traffic and then come to find out from
Speaker 2: our neighbor at the time. My mom said that she
Speaker 2: her husband also worked for Lockeed Martin. She was a
Speaker 2: Native American woman, and my mom would find feathers like
Speaker 2: lining the property of our house, and she would always
Speaker 2: find them and think it was so weird because they
Speaker 2: were like meticulously laid out, and then so she would
Speaker 2: always move them and like throw them away, and then
Speaker 2: you know, days later she would find them again. And
Speaker 2: my mom was hanging Christmas decorations one year. I think
Speaker 2: we were only there. We were there for less than
Speaker 2: a year. My sister says, like eight or nine months
Speaker 2: or so, and she was on a ladder hanging Christmas
Speaker 2: lights up, and the neighbors came out and they were like,
Speaker 2: get down from there, right now, get down from there,
Speaker 2: right now, and then my mom was like, why, I'm
Speaker 2: just I'll be fine, I'm good, and they were like,
Speaker 2: please come down here. And then the neighboring couple was like,
Speaker 2: I think it's time that we tell her, and they
Speaker 2: were like, every person and every family who lived in
Speaker 2: this house and since original owners have had something tragic happen.
Speaker 2: So there was a car accident that killed the whole family.
Speaker 2: Once before, there was a gentleman who hung himself in
Speaker 2: the attic. The fireplace was struck by lightning through the chimney,
Speaker 2: and then there was like a fire that started in
Speaker 2: the house some way, and my mom said that she
Speaker 2: would always smell smoke and above where the washer and
Speaker 2: dryer was is where the attic was, and she felt
Speaker 2: like she always heard some kind of like a tomb
Speaker 2: opening and closing in the attic. It was really weird.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have the chills thinking about it. I
Speaker 2: didn't experience I don't remember it. I was so young.
Speaker 2: But for my entire life I've always heard about the hunt,
Speaker 2: like they would always bring it up, like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I remember the haunted house. I remember the haunted house.
Speaker 2: So it's really interesting.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look on me.
Speaker 2: I mean needles to say. Once my mom found that out,
Speaker 2: she went house hunting the next day and found a
Speaker 2: new place for them to move, because I think they
Speaker 2: were just renting that place between houses, and my sister said, literally,
Speaker 2: she came home and had my sister watched my brother
Speaker 2: and I and she went and found a house and
Speaker 2: they were gone like the next day, basically, I do.
Speaker 2: It's funny though, because I do remember this move. I
Speaker 2: remember a very abrupt move that we did, and I
Speaker 2: never understood why, because we were like moving out in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night. I remember like packing all
Speaker 2: of our stuff randomly, just throwing shit in boxes, and
Speaker 2: we're gone, and I was like, are we in the mob?
Speaker 2: Like what's.
Speaker 1: It's such a movie? Like, yeah, it's so spooky this
Speaker 1: one house where all these horrible things happened. Wild did
Speaker 1: the Christmas treet lights get finished being hung when you
Speaker 1: sold them? Or probably not?
Speaker 2: I'm assumingly not if they like left shortly after she
Speaker 2: found all that out, and apparently the neighbor, the wife
Speaker 2: of the neighbor, was laying the feathers as a protection.
Speaker 2: That's what she told my mom. She was trying to
Speaker 2: protect the family and so she would like do some
Speaker 2: kind of protection ritual to help keep us safe. So
Speaker 2: thank you to you. If you're still out there anywhere
Speaker 2: listening to this. Yeah, either on the pod or in
Speaker 2: the realms of whatever.
Speaker 1: Detax, This is real good.
Speaker 2: Did you think did you think that this is what
Speaker 2: you were going to get? That story?
Speaker 1: You never know, I don't know. It makes me like
Speaker 1: so curious about like when you were growing up, you
Speaker 1: already had like a family that had experienced this stuff.
Speaker 1: So because of that, do you feel like you've always
Speaker 1: you know, kind of believed or at least you know,
Speaker 1: had that conversation.
Speaker 2: Oh, totally, Like I've always I've always felt energies and presences,
Speaker 2: and I've always believed in like the supernatural and the spirit,
Speaker 2: realm and ghosts. Also, I'm you know, I'm a lofty
Speaker 2: dreamer and I and I'm intrigued by all those things.
Speaker 2: So of course i want all those things to exist
Speaker 2: and to be and to be real. And I've experienced
Speaker 2: and things myself too that are a little more paranormal.
Speaker 2: But I think that was you know, having kind of
Speaker 2: grown up in a home like that for even just
Speaker 2: a few months that we were there. And even though
Speaker 2: I don't remember them having that conversation happen often, and
Speaker 2: even my dad, who was not a believer of anything
Speaker 2: outside of the physical world, really he told us stories
Speaker 2: about how it was a weird house and how it
Speaker 2: would creep him out. And he wasn't the kind of
Speaker 2: man to be creeped out often, so that was always
Speaker 2: intriguing to me too. It's like, huh, there had to
Speaker 2: be some kind of alidity to it. If it freaked
Speaker 2: my weird ass d ad.
Speaker 1: Out, I feel like there's probably someone could argue there's
Speaker 1: some kind of problematic whatever something about this. But I
Speaker 1: always feel like if you get like a straight man
Speaker 1: dad creeped like, then is real.
Speaker 2: Then it's real, right, Like, that's gotta be some tangible
Speaker 2: shit right there. If my big mancho you know, closed
Speaker 2: minded racist billy dad was like that should scurry, there
Speaker 2: had to be something going on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I just I just feel like it's you know,
Speaker 1: men like don't want to admit the weakness or whatever
Speaker 1: of being scared, right, So if a ghost gets you or.
Speaker 2: Anything, men don't want to admit anything period. But like,
Speaker 2: let alone like anything that shows showcases their fragility.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, speaking of gender. Do you do you think
Speaker 1: that you know trans people, non binary, whatever, you know
Speaker 1: the people that live in between. Do you think that
Speaker 1: there's like a more spiritual connection something going on there.
Speaker 2: I think there. It's strange because that's a that's a
Speaker 2: really interesting question, especially now that I'm openly kind of
Speaker 2: discussing this is actually the first time I've really been
Speaker 2: discussing it on a podcast or anything. But you know,
Speaker 2: I recently came out as trans accidentally, even though I've
Speaker 2: been on this journey for a long part of my life.
Speaker 1: Congratulation, Thank you.
Speaker 2: It's been very liberating and very exciting, and I'm very
Speaker 2: very happy. I'm like the happiest I've ever been in
Speaker 2: my life, which is great. I'm not gonna get a
Speaker 2: batch all about it because it's a good thing now,
Speaker 2: it's a very happy thing. It's a beautiful thing. But
Speaker 2: I do feel that way because I always felt like
Speaker 2: this feminine energy and feminine presence surrounding me in me
Speaker 2: since I was young, Like some of my earliest memories
Speaker 2: are just like feeling like a I wasn't at the
Speaker 2: time like I had lived before, and also that I
Speaker 2: was in the wrong body and that I at some
Speaker 2: point was some kind of like really fierce like debutante
Speaker 2: or like, you know, some really cool bitch from the
Speaker 2: twenties or I don't know. I don't know who I
Speaker 2: was or where I was or when I was, but
Speaker 2: I felt this this feminine energy that I had been.
Speaker 2: I had seen this world before, I have been here before,
Speaker 2: I've had you know, experiences before, and this was just
Speaker 2: another like stop on whatever journey this is that I'm on.
Speaker 1: That's interesting because it kind of is like that idea
Speaker 1: of past lives, and because I feel like if you
Speaker 1: believe in past lives, then you believe like we're spiritual
Speaker 1: beings having a human experience and these are just shells
Speaker 1: and we kind of go from shell to shell, and
Speaker 1: so you know, it does kind of go along with
Speaker 1: I am in the wrong shell or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: like being trans and being born in the wrong body
Speaker 1: or not, you know, which.
Speaker 2: It's also funny because when my mother was pregnant with
Speaker 2: my brother and I have a twin brother, and I
Speaker 2: think I mentioned that already, but she was told that.
Speaker 2: First of all, she was told she was never gonna
Speaker 2: have kids again and that she should just stop trying
Speaker 2: because she had like several miscarriages and tubal pregnancies and
Speaker 2: just all kinds of messed up shit, and then ended
Speaker 2: up getting pregnant with twins and there's not really a
Speaker 2: lineage of twins that run in our family, so that
Speaker 2: she considered us her miracle baby as forever still does,
Speaker 2: which is cute. But when she was pregnant, they told
Speaker 2: her she was having a boy and a girl. Of course,
Speaker 2: I pop, I pop out. And then the other funny
Speaker 2: thing is, which is really annoying now that I'm going
Speaker 2: through my own gender identity journey and transitioning and having
Speaker 2: to do all the paperwork that comes along with that too.
Speaker 2: When I went to get my first passport after getting
Speaker 2: on drag Race and starting to travel abroad, I found
Speaker 2: out that my birth certificate had me gendered as female,
Speaker 2: and so I had to go through all of this
Speaker 2: like paperwork to get it marked as male. To now
Speaker 2: having to go through stop It's really it's ironic and
Speaker 2: hilarious to me, but it's also frustrating because I'm like,
Speaker 2: did you guys know all along?
Speaker 1: Did nobody tell me?
Speaker 2: Why was no one supportive of me when I was
Speaker 2: going to different crisis?
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, wow, okay.
Speaker 2: Which also to me is just the universe being like,
Speaker 2: you're on the right path, bitch, it's taken you long
Speaker 2: enough to admit it. Get ready.
Speaker 1: Yes, when you talk about okay being a twin, I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that some twins report like I
Speaker 1: don't know, Oh, I hurt my ankle, and then the
Speaker 1: twins like why is my ankle hurt or whatever, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, just just weird connection stuff. Every time
Speaker 1: I interview twin on this pod, they say, not me,
Speaker 1: where are you at with that?
Speaker 2: I have definitely had experiences where I've been connected to
Speaker 2: my brother. He and I were very close. We're a
Speaker 2: very close family. We've kind of had to be in
Speaker 2: our lives just because of how much we've traveled and
Speaker 2: had to move. My sister and I are like, we're
Speaker 2: more like twins than he and I are. But he
Speaker 2: and I are very connected. And I'll say that because
Speaker 2: it's funny that you mentioned like a hurt ankle or something,
Speaker 2: because all of us, I mean, I'm an old I'm
Speaker 2: an old translating now at this point, and I've been
Speaker 2: putting my body through the ringer for years, and so
Speaker 2: I'll get like random pains and be like, Oh, that's weird, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: what did I do there? And it's dawning on me
Speaker 2: now that you bring that up that a lot of
Speaker 2: my pain happens where my brother was injured in the
Speaker 2: the war in Afghanistan. He was serving as a military
Speaker 2: policeman and was almost killed, and I knew I had
Speaker 2: a feeling that something was wrong when it happened to him.
Speaker 2: We didn't know yet, but I remember calling my parents
Speaker 2: in a tizzy and being like, something's wrong with Michael.
Speaker 2: Who's heard from Michael? Has anyone heard from him? And
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, he's fine, we just heard from him.
Speaker 2: And then days later we got the notification that the
Speaker 2: company he was with hit a roadside bomb and he
Speaker 2: was injured and was alive but was badly injured. And
Speaker 2: I was like, that had to have meant something. But
Speaker 2: a lot of the pain that I've been getting recently
Speaker 2: is where his injury is, and I'm wondering if that
Speaker 2: has anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: It could be.
Speaker 2: Now I'm just like, I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is happening is thanks a.
Speaker 1: Lot, Michael, Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2: YEA? For all of the shoulder pains that I'm receiving lately.
Speaker 1: Do you uh, do you think you could be telepathic?
Speaker 1: Like can you communicate without speaking?
Speaker 2: Maybe? My sister, like my parents and my sister used
Speaker 2: to tell us this all the time, is that we
Speaker 2: would just look at each other when we were young,
Speaker 2: before we were verbal, We would like give each other
Speaker 2: this look, and they knew that we were about to
Speaker 2: cost no stiff, and we would both like tear off
Speaker 2: and do the same thing and like, you know, get
Speaker 2: out of our car seats and run around the minivan
Speaker 2: and giggle and do all kinds of annoying shit like
Speaker 2: toddlers do. They always said there was like, oh, they
Speaker 2: got that look again, And we still kind of can
Speaker 2: do that. But my sister and I are very like, well,
Speaker 2: look at each other and know exactly what it is
Speaker 2: and say the same thing at the same time and
Speaker 2: around like pretty much the same cycle of everything.
Speaker 1: That we do. Tell me another ghost story or do
Speaker 1: you have like any other life?
Speaker 2: You tell me a ghost story?
Speaker 1: Now, that's all I do. I want to hear it
Speaker 1: from you.
Speaker 2: Well, the house that I live in now, I don't
Speaker 2: think that it's haunted per se, although sometimes I do
Speaker 2: get like weird feelings. I think that there might be
Speaker 2: like other presences that have been following me around for
Speaker 2: you years. But my sister has a good friend who's
Speaker 2: a psychic medium, and when I first bought my house,
Speaker 2: she came to visit my sister and we had her
Speaker 2: cleanse her house and my house. We both have older
Speaker 2: homes that were built in like the sixties and hadn't
Speaker 2: really been touched since them. But as we were going
Speaker 2: to my house, before she even stepped in, she was like,
Speaker 2: where's the room downstairs? I can't go to the room downstairs?
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: What room. I don't have a room downstairs. I have
Speaker 2: a split level home. And then in my basement there's
Speaker 2: a pool which flex indoor. Okay, when you're in Chicago
Speaker 2: with Bob and if I'm home, please stop by for
Speaker 2: a dip. But there's this mechanical room in there basically
Speaker 2: that's always given me the hubgb's And before she hadn't
Speaker 2: seen the house, hadn't like I hadn't told her about
Speaker 2: this house at all or any of my vibes that
Speaker 2: I get from it. But before we even stepped in.
Speaker 2: She was like, I'm not going into that room that's
Speaker 2: in the basement. And I was like, what are you
Speaker 2: talking about. She's like, you know the room and I
Speaker 2: was like, I know the room. She's like, I'm not
Speaker 2: going into it. And it was weird, and it was
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, She's like, I have to go
Speaker 2: in there right now and double sage it. And she
Speaker 2: walked into the house, went right to where it was
Speaker 2: without even knowing like the layout of anything, and started
Speaker 2: saging it. And I was like, I just got the
Speaker 2: fills from that too.
Speaker 1: She needed to double say, she said, I got the
Speaker 1: backup for this room.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened here, but I don't like it.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if anything happened here. You know,
Speaker 2: there's no record of anything tragic or anything like that
Speaker 2: happening here. But I also feel there's this one room
Speaker 2: where I feel like an ex boyfriend of mine who
Speaker 2: was passed on, who I feel like he's always kind
Speaker 2: of around. I feel like he hangs out there a lot.
Speaker 2: And that's what she said as well. So it's kind
Speaker 2: of like dark and mysterious and a little spooky. And
Speaker 2: he was dark and mysterious and a little spooky, and
Speaker 2: I feel like he hangs out there just to not
Speaker 2: for anything, and this, and she said this too. She's like,
Speaker 2: he doesn't hang out there to like do anything harmful.
Speaker 2: He's there to just watch over you. But it's it's
Speaker 2: still kind of like a you know, he died, it's
Speaker 2: probably still a negative energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about psychics in your relationship with them.
Speaker 2: I love psychics.
Speaker 1: Have you been to quite a few.
Speaker 2: I've gone to quite a few. Some of them have
Speaker 2: been spot on. Some of them have been like truly
Speaker 2: like scarily accurate, which always blows my mind. And then
Speaker 2: it's like then I have to remind myself, well, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of googleable. Some of this shit is very you know,
Speaker 2: probably public knowledge because I am very open and talk
Speaker 2: about my life very candidly, which I probably shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Do, as mush.
Speaker 2: But and then some of them, you know, just are
Speaker 2: like I can see them grasping at straws and trying
Speaker 2: to get to me. But you also have to be
Speaker 2: in the right headspace to talk to a psyche. You
Speaker 2: have to be very open to it. And if you
Speaker 2: get caught by people who you're not really open to
Speaker 2: or this is how I am. If I if I'm
Speaker 2: just not vibing well with whoever I'm speaking with, then
Speaker 2: I just kind of close off, or I'm like, don't
Speaker 2: give them much to work.
Speaker 1: With, right.
Speaker 2: But Jackie my sister's girlfriend who I was mentioning earlier,
Speaker 2: who's the medium she at my dad's service when we
Speaker 2: were having like the memorial from my father after he passed.
Speaker 2: She kept looking at me from across the table. She
Speaker 2: was like, I need to talk to you. I need
Speaker 2: to talk to you right now. We have to go outside,
Speaker 2: And so we went outside and she told me all
Speaker 2: this crazy shit about the boyfriend in question that my
Speaker 2: sister didn't even know, that I hadn't talked to anybody about.
Speaker 2: She had so many specific details. It was like word vomit.
Speaker 2: One thing after another after another after another, and she
Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head with every single thing.
Speaker 2: That was pretty pretty amazing and very impressive.
Speaker 1: Have you been to them, like for predictions?
Speaker 2: Not really for predictions. I mean I do like a
Speaker 2: lot of taro. There's a really have you ever been
Speaker 2: to Casadega in Florida.
Speaker 1: I've heard of it. It's like a spiritualist community and
Speaker 1: there's lots of psychics, and yeah it is.
Speaker 2: I went to my first psychic there and she again
Speaker 2: was incredible. Actually, my entire family has since gone to her.
Speaker 2: And I was with a friend of mine at the time,
Speaker 2: and he went first because I paid for us both
Speaker 2: to go, and I was like, okay, so you go first.
Speaker 2: And he went in and was there. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: sure he was there for his whole session, but shortly
Speaker 2: came out and he was like, girl, I really got
Speaker 2: nothing from her, but all she kept doing was talking
Speaker 2: about you. So she really needs to you to come
Speaker 2: in because she has she has a lot of messages
Speaker 2: for you. And as soon as I got it, I
Speaker 2: still have the recording.
Speaker 1: She probably knew that you paid, so she's like, she's
Speaker 1: getting good with the person with the money.
Speaker 2: Where's the mommy, Bring the mommy in here? Come.
Speaker 1: What do you think of aliens? They're out there.
Speaker 2: They're out there, don't you think. Don't you think we
Speaker 2: can't live on this globe and not and that's this
Speaker 2: huge universe and not have something else out there. They
Speaker 2: got to be out there, and I feel like they're here.
Speaker 2: They've got to be here, So I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know Vicky is the person to talk to about the aliens.
Speaker 1: Oh, Vicky Fogs.
Speaker 2: Yes, Vicky Vox is the one to talk to you
Speaker 2: about the aliens. That she is obsessed with all of that,
Speaker 2: and she's you know, she gets in the little rabbit
Speaker 2: hole of digging on YouTube and all the all those things,
Speaker 2: and she would be the one to talk to you.
Speaker 2: But I feel like this world is too big for
Speaker 2: there's something to not be anything else besides us slowly
Speaker 2: human beings. Yes, of this burning cesspool of a rock
Speaker 2: called earth.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a reading from Vicky?
Speaker 2: I have had conversations with Vicky. She doesn't often like
Speaker 2: to read me because we're so close, right, And a
Speaker 2: lot of times she says that, uh, spirit blocks it
Speaker 2: because we're because we're just so close and we know
Speaker 2: so much about each other and we can kind of
Speaker 2: read each other's minds. In certain cases, that that they
Speaker 2: protect her from being the vessel, which I totally get.
Speaker 2: But there's also been times where I've been my girl,
Speaker 2: what's going on with this situation or with this love interest.
Speaker 1: Or unprotected vessel for a minute from mine?
Speaker 2: Right, And sometimes she'll call me and she's like, listen, girl,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't like doing this. I love you,
Speaker 2: but fucking spirit won't leave me alone. And needed to
Speaker 2: know you're up to some shit that you shouldn't be
Speaker 2: or you're dealing with some people that you shouldn't be
Speaker 2: dealing with, or you're hanging like something funky, and here's
Speaker 2: what I know, and so be mindful of it. And
Speaker 2: then she's all right, bye, are you? But I've witnessed
Speaker 2: I've witnessed her like read strangers and it is incredible.
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen her read. I've seen her read audiences
Speaker 1: before Hamburger, Mary's Brunch or the abbey. She's reading these
Speaker 1: bitches left and right.
Speaker 2: Is this the drag kind of reading though?
Speaker 1: Or the speech is a little bit of Colin A
Speaker 1: and B a little bit of both. Are you a
Speaker 1: believer in fate or like synchronicities?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Do you think like when stuff happens on the daily?
Speaker 1: Are you like that's a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe in signs. I also I believe in
Speaker 2: like I have a lot of deja vu.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I have a lot.
Speaker 2: Of deja vu, which also, but that just reminds me
Speaker 2: of like I'm like, I've I've dreamt this before or
Speaker 2: I've lived this before, or I like I've seen whatever
Speaker 2: this like movie that's playing behind my eyeballs right now
Speaker 2: of what is in the present, like I've I've this
Speaker 2: is an experience I have had before, like verbatim and
Speaker 2: like to every like every little detail where I'm like,
Speaker 2: didn't we just have this conversation a couple of weeks together?
Speaker 2: They're like, No, we're meeting somebody that I'm like, I
Speaker 2: swear I know, like I know you, I know you?
Speaker 2: How do I know you? And it's not being the case.
Speaker 2: But I also believe in you know, destiny and fate
Speaker 2: and like and karmatic fate is truly what I believe in.
Speaker 2: It's like whatever kind of energy you're putting out there,
Speaker 2: you're destined for whatever you're saying up there. So be
Speaker 2: nice to people. People exactly.
Speaker 1: This is the worst question I ever asked people. Can
Speaker 1: you think of a time off the top of your
Speaker 1: head of like a synchronicity something something in your life where.
Speaker 2: Where things just clicked and made sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, or like I don't know something, what's an example?
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me a good example so I can think
Speaker 2: of that, because I'm sure I have something. As I
Speaker 2: hit my.
Speaker 1: Like a coincidence, but you're like, that's not a coincidence
Speaker 1: that I think that's too good to be true, like
Speaker 1: or like I should have went to this place and
Speaker 1: then I didn't that day and then this happened, or
Speaker 1: oh well.
Speaker 2: Again back to well this is this was to my sister.
Speaker 2: I'm back to that haunted house that we lived in
Speaker 2: when we were younger. She I guess she like hurt
Speaker 2: her finger or something playing basketball and called my mother
Speaker 2: and demanded that my mother come to pick her up.
Speaker 2: And she was like, at school's almost over, You're fine,
Speaker 2: it's just a finger, You'll be good. She's like, I
Speaker 2: need to be picked up now. I need to be
Speaker 2: picked up now. And so my mom, you know, she
Speaker 2: had just put my brother and I down to nap,
Speaker 2: had to wake us up, go get my sister, take
Speaker 2: her home, and then you know, like maybe half an
Speaker 2: hour later, she got a call from one of my sisters,
Speaker 2: like students mothers asking if Heather had made it home,
Speaker 2: and she was like, yeah, I had to go pick
Speaker 2: her up in school. She's like, oh, my kid hasn't
Speaker 2: made it home yet. And come to find out, there
Speaker 2: was a terrible accident on the bus that my sister
Speaker 2: was supposed to take home and it like went over
Speaker 2: a freeway near SeaWorld in Orlando and people died.
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she just told me that story. My mom just
Speaker 2: told me that story right before I got on the
Speaker 2: phone with you. I think, what happened with my brother's
Speaker 2: a little lake? Think what does the word synchronosity, synchronistic? Synchronistic?
Speaker 1: I had?
Speaker 2: Okay, this is like a little this is a little morbid.
Speaker 2: And I don't talk about this often because it puts
Speaker 2: me in a dark place.
Speaker 1: But well you don't have to if you don't want to.
Speaker 2: Now whatever I'm I'm I'm I'm trying to be even
Speaker 2: more open than I already am. Okay, that says I
Speaker 2: think this is a perfect podcast for that.
Speaker 1: Totally.
Speaker 2: The night that my boyfriend committed suicide, he was begging
Speaker 2: me to come over and I was going to go
Speaker 2: over there, and something in my mind told me not
Speaker 2: to go over there. I just didn't. I didn't feel
Speaker 2: safe to do it, and so I didn't. And then
Speaker 2: that's the night that in the middle of the night
Speaker 2: I got the call that I needed to come to
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's that's a deep one, and.
Speaker 2: We talk about as a family. We talk about it often,
Speaker 2: something that I'm working on with my therapist too, and
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's a burden that I've held on
Speaker 2: to for a long time, so I think it's probably
Speaker 2: healthy to talk about it and try to like release
Speaker 2: some of that that I always hold on too. But
Speaker 2: it's something that's always weighed on my mind, like what
Speaker 2: if what if I would have gone over there? Could
Speaker 2: I have helped him? What if I went over there
Speaker 2: and I couldn't help myself?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we can drive ourselves crazy with the
Speaker 1: what ifs. Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 2: Life and life is wild.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for sharing that.
Speaker 2: I think that's why, especially now, I'm like, I'm going
Speaker 2: to live my life to as as full as i
Speaker 2: can while I have it in this vessel until the
Speaker 2: next one and hopefully the next one will be even greater.
Speaker 1: That is definitely something I think you can learn from
Speaker 1: loss is like, oh wow, this does end, like you
Speaker 1: really you don't know how long you're gonna get, so
Speaker 1: you might as well make the most of it.
Speaker 2: I've had. I mean, I don't know how much loss
Speaker 2: you've experienced. I've experienced a ton of loss, in my life,
Speaker 2: and it's been, you know, a great tragedy of my
Speaker 2: life to have gone through so much loss, but it's
Speaker 2: also been I think rewarding in a way to live
Speaker 2: every day as if it's your last. You never know
Speaker 2: what's going to happen, like you know, all those all
Speaker 2: those stereotypical things that people say about grief and living
Speaker 2: life to its fullest potential and capabilities, but also trying
Speaker 2: to enjoy it as much as you can, even though
Speaker 2: it feels like the world is you know, going to hell,
Speaker 2: which it is, trying to find some kind of joy
Speaker 2: and levity in the situation.
Speaker 1: I know it's so important, and that's why I like,
Speaker 1: I just feel like as awful as the circumstances are
Speaker 1: or ever will be, I have to have fun, Like
Speaker 1: I have to find a way to have fun with it.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like, I don't know, I literally just
Speaker 1: watched Titanic on an airplane the other day. Like the
Speaker 1: people playing the music as it's like sinking, I feel
Speaker 1: like I would be like making jokes or something.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm like, well, bitch, if we're all dying, we
Speaker 2: might as well might as well have fun. Get the
Speaker 2: champs out I'm ready exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, where should we go from here?
Speaker 2: No, I didn't mean to get deep.
Speaker 1: Sorry girl, Now I love it on This show has
Speaker 1: been so silly lately, which which I do love.
Speaker 2: But we love a silly little show.
Speaker 1: I love a silly little show. Oh, she's just doing
Speaker 1: a silly little show. But that is a thing like
Speaker 1: these conversations about spiritual All of this concerns so many
Speaker 1: different aspects. It concerns science, religion, history, love, loss, but
Speaker 1: it ultimately a lot of it involves life and death,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's this tragedy within that, there's beauty
Speaker 1: within it. These conversations can definitely be very real and
Speaker 1: intense or however you want to look at it, but
Speaker 1: it's a part of the conversation absolutely, So thank you
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 2: Are you wrapping this up?
Speaker 1: For what is? Are we doing? We wrap it up?
Speaker 1: We don't have to.
Speaker 2: That was it?
Speaker 1: No, that wasn't it. That was just my little piece
Speaker 1: about us getting deep.
Speaker 2: And girls, I guess love to go deep.
Speaker 1: What do you think of bigfoot shifting gears? I have one,
Speaker 1: I have two, Bigfoot Do you think that's real?
Speaker 2: I don't know what I feel about bigfoot or Lockness
Speaker 2: Monster or you know any of those things.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, Chicago has Mothman.
Speaker 2: I have heard of moth Man, even though I live
Speaker 2: here and I've been here for seven years now. I
Speaker 2: need to like dive deep into all the lore that
Speaker 2: Chicago has. I've been on several of the ghost tours,
Speaker 2: which are really fun. You have highly recommend if you come.
Speaker 2: There's like a lot of you know, with the fires
Speaker 2: and all the other shit that's happened in Chicago and
Speaker 2: all the mafia. Yeah, there are some good ghost tours here.
Speaker 2: And I don't know much about Mothman, to be honest.
Speaker 2: Do I want to say Bigfoot exists? Sure? Is it
Speaker 2: a species? Is it aliens? Like? What is? You know?
Speaker 2: Are there more big big feet? Are there multiple Lackness monsters?
Speaker 2: Or is it just a big turd? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would like to are giants reel?
Speaker 1: I think I know a few.
Speaker 2: Named them.
Speaker 1: I there's theories of all of those things you just listened.
Speaker 1: Some people will say it's an alien, some people will
Speaker 1: say it's a species. The Mothman is very interesting. Actually,
Speaker 1: Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries just recently did an episode about Mothman
Speaker 1: and It's interesting because Mothman was always very West Virginia
Speaker 1: and then the past few years became Chicago. Honestly, maybe
Speaker 1: Mothman heard that you moved to Chicago.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I am most Frans.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm always trying to defend. We don't know
Speaker 1: Mothman's pronouns, and I think it should just be moth
Speaker 1: them for now, right until we.
Speaker 2: Know Mathi, we'll just call it Mathi, Mathi giving Mathi.
Speaker 2: I need to dive into that. But also, it's global warming,
Speaker 2: so maybe it's just migration issues. Maybe the mo moth people,
Speaker 2: moth persons are now in Chicago because why not be
Speaker 2: in Chicago instead of West Virginia?
Speaker 1: Right, I love Chicago. Oh my god, I actually hearing
Speaker 1: about you with a pool in your home in Chicago.
Speaker 1: That sounds like such a dream.
Speaker 2: Please come visit and tell me if you think my
Speaker 2: house is haunted.
Speaker 1: I absolutely will. What about haunted like.
Speaker 2: Objects like items? Yeah, for sure. There was this thing
Speaker 2: that my mom used to have and I can't even
Speaker 2: remember what it was now, but it always creeped me
Speaker 2: out as a kid. And then I had this doll,
Speaker 2: of course that I loved as a kid, and It
Speaker 2: always freaked the rest of my family out, but I
Speaker 2: loved it and would I would go everywhere with it.
Speaker 1: What was it?
Speaker 2: It was like it almost looked like a little Chucky doll.
Speaker 2: To be honest, it was like it looks like me.
Speaker 2: It had like bright red hair, a little freckles. It
Speaker 2: wasn't like as like big or wild looking as Chucky,
Speaker 2: but it was definitely like, you know, cabbage patch adjacent.
Speaker 2: And I was obsessed with this doll, but it would
Speaker 2: freak everyone out. I also had a really weird ventriloquis
Speaker 2: stummy that I got it up their story, yard sale
Speaker 2: or something that always scared everyone. But I was also
Speaker 2: could never let that thing go because it also looked
Speaker 2: like me. You know, I've always looked like a puppet,
Speaker 2: a little ginger puppet with freckles, so not much has
Speaker 2: changed in that regard.
Speaker 1: Can I show you a haunted doll? Yes, it's time
Speaker 1: for the dolls are living living, Okay. So here's what
Speaker 1: I do de talks. Every week, I go to eBay
Speaker 1: dot com. I type in the words haunted doll. There
Speaker 1: are thousands of haunted dolls on eBay always, and here
Speaker 1: is one for you today. I would like you to
Speaker 1: meet Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: Hi, Lizzie.
Speaker 1: Elizabeth is currently going for nineteen dollars. Let's take a
Speaker 1: look at can can we see a picture with more outfit?
Speaker 2: There she is, she's kind of giving Yes, she's.
Speaker 1: Got like is that a bonnet? What is that?
Speaker 2: It's a really sweet little easter bonnet. I'm interested in
Speaker 2: that hand. That hand is doing some weird She's like
Speaker 2: throwing up gang signs with that hand.
Speaker 1: She's just kind of sliding that in there a little.
Speaker 1: She's a little little little bo peep.
Speaker 2: A little mo peep. That's what the kids called me
Speaker 2: at school.
Speaker 1: Wow, she's a little mo cute cut Creese could use
Speaker 1: a bigger lash. Possibly, I'm into those brows. Honestly. The
Speaker 1: makeups not bad.
Speaker 2: It's not bad. She's cute. The pupils are a little dilated.
Speaker 1: Maybe she knows that a party, but real she So.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about these ebayhunted dolls. They always come
Speaker 1: with biographies.
Speaker 2: Okay, I need the biography. Give it to me. Is
Speaker 2: she missing a hand?
Speaker 1: Oh, it looks like.
Speaker 2: Missing a hand. Who hurt you, little peep?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think she's missing a hand. Well, let's see if
Speaker 1: it says anything about that in this bio. And by
Speaker 1: the way, usually the idea with these is that a
Speaker 1: formerly living human being dies and then somehow ends up
Speaker 1: the doll. Yeah, oh, you know.
Speaker 2: You don't have one of those dolls already. Do you
Speaker 2: ever buy any of these dolls? Actually, why not?
Speaker 1: I will not, though I do have a vintage Liberachi
Speaker 1: doll that is here at the studio and I'm obsessed. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it's meet Elizabeth. By the way, she's going for
Speaker 1: nineteen dollars, which is that's a discount, Diva. They're usually
Speaker 1: way more than that.
Speaker 2: I might have to get her.
Speaker 1: Meet Elizabeth. Fair and beautiful, but also cunning and vile.
Speaker 1: She poisoned all three of her younger siblings. No one
Speaker 1: suspected a sweet faced beauty like Elizabeth to be so evil.
Speaker 1: It was in the early nineteen hundreds, so detective work
Speaker 1: was lacking, and eventually her nanny was blamed and put
Speaker 1: to death. Elizabeth rejoiced that she duped everyone, and then
Speaker 1: she received all the attention from everyone for her mournful suffering.
Speaker 1: This was the theme of her life, continuous cruel acts.
Speaker 1: She basically killed two of her husbands. Wow, okay, so
Speaker 1: work Diva said she was widowed twice by her own doing.
Speaker 1: She eventually messed with the wrong person and he had
Speaker 1: enough and pushed Elizabeth off the cliff. Elizabeth has the
Speaker 1: tendency of turning lights on. If she is near a
Speaker 1: light and it is off, she will turn it on.
Speaker 1: She also dances to the flame of a candle. If
Speaker 1: you stare into the center of the flame, you most
Speaker 1: likely will see her nude pale skin swaying in the flame.
Speaker 1: But be careful. Not only will your eyes start to
Speaker 1: sting and blur your Wait a second, now, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of spelling errors. I apologize. Not only will your
Speaker 1: eyes start to sting and blur your vision, she will
Speaker 1: attempt to put you in a trance and lead you
Speaker 1: to do unscrupulous things. You will know it was almost over.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. You will know when she leaves her vessel
Speaker 1: to wander. If you get a sudden chill and smell
Speaker 1: of magnolias, the tale sign she is likely hovering over you.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth, she sounds like a party and I like her.
Speaker 1: She will get naked and dance to your candles. Don't
Speaker 1: fall for it. She might try to kill you, but
Speaker 1: she sounds fun.
Speaker 2: She sounds fun. Somebody come out there and buy Elizabeth.
Speaker 1: Nineteen dollars e Bay dollars is a steal.
Speaker 2: Have you ever bought a haunted doll from me?
Speaker 1: By absolutely not. I's wrong with you. A lot of
Speaker 1: things do tugs.
Speaker 2: You have to do it for research for the pod.
Speaker 1: Well, I am doing research for the pod right now,
Speaker 1: which is I'm going around staying in haunted hotel rooms
Speaker 1: and I'm putting it on YouTube love It's called the
Speaker 1: Haunted Doll. So that is my research. But that I
Speaker 1: like can leave the hotel. I don't want to bring
Speaker 1: a haunted doll into my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like if you if you bring something
Speaker 2: into your space, and that's where that's where things get dicey,
Speaker 2: because at.
Speaker 1: This point this has become my job in some way,
Speaker 1: like it is my job, and I like the fact
Speaker 1: that my home is not haunted, and so I feel
Speaker 1: like I don't want to bring my work home and
Speaker 1: I can't have.
Speaker 2: Ghosts a year in a studio?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, should we have one in the studio?
Speaker 2: I haunt that shit.
Speaker 1: I would feel so bad and.
Speaker 2: See who all, see who all is affected by the
Speaker 2: spirits of Elizabeth you know what I don't like about
Speaker 2: Elizabeth is that her pupil placement one is a little
Speaker 2: off kilter, so she looks like she has a little
Speaker 2: lazy eye. But it also looks like she's shifty, like
Speaker 2: she's got when I looking at you and when I'm
Speaker 2: looking for revenge.
Speaker 1: Ooh, she's always on the.
Speaker 2: Pro which it's me a little bit, Elizabeth.
Speaker 1: What do you think of her hair? Hard front, hard front.
Speaker 2: The glue is yellowing, which does tell me that it
Speaker 2: might be you see the glue, so it does give old.
Speaker 2: The ribbon looks very new, though, so I'm not sure
Speaker 2: how old. She doesn't say how old.
Speaker 1: She is musty old wig the old. It does not
Speaker 1: say whatever. I don't know. Hey can I hey, hey,
Speaker 1: can I play some ghost voices? Yeah, it's time for
Speaker 1: ev or ev Please? Have you ever heard the term EVP?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Tolly uh?
Speaker 2: It stands for extravainy penis, So you.
Speaker 1: Do know it?
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, familiar, I'm familiar with that verbiage.
Speaker 1: It's a different one actually, this one is electronic voice phenomena.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, of course of course.
Speaker 1: So it's basically like on a ghost a dig show
Speaker 1: when they believe they've heard a ghosts speak and it's
Speaker 1: like that was better than most of them. So basically
Speaker 1: not unlike with eBay the Internet, you know, people are
Speaker 1: putting their stuff up there all the time. Sometimes they're good. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think that ones today are pretty good. I've got
Speaker 1: two of them for you, and I'm gonna play them
Speaker 1: for you, and I want you to tell me what
Speaker 1: you hear and then I'll give you an abc D
Speaker 1: one of them being the right answer what they believe
Speaker 1: the ghosts that. So this first one is from Parallel
Speaker 1: Realms with a Z that's their name on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Because they're edgy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Parallel Realms And it's at a private residence.
Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying?
Speaker 2: Can I hear it again?
Speaker 1: Yes, there's some like scratchy scratchiness from the recording going on,
Speaker 1: but it's this voice that's.
Speaker 2: Like, can I tell you what I'm hearing?
Speaker 1: What you here?
Speaker 2: Can I say? Fag? This is just the fag in me?
Speaker 1: Well, a ghost called me that word. Actually at this point,
Speaker 1: multiple times, I have captured.
Speaker 2: I say, multiple people. I was like, I'm one of them.
Speaker 1: The living and the dead have called me that word.
Speaker 1: And I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2: I heard. Okay, this is what I heard. Looks stunning,
Speaker 2: and that's just the.
Speaker 1: Fag in me. Absolutely. Do you hear it to me?
Speaker 1: It sounds like some old queen that's at a salon
Speaker 1: or something just did your hair. And then it's like,
Speaker 1: you look stunning.
Speaker 2: That's right, like cigarette in hand, yes, teasing comb in
Speaker 2: the other hand. You look stunning.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well that's not what they thought. Here's
Speaker 1: the ABCG options. Did they think it was a you
Speaker 1: want some fun tea? Oh, B, you try to fight me?
Speaker 1: C you guys are funny guys? Or d you like
Speaker 1: it funky? Okay, it's one of those. Let me play
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 2: You tried to fight me. That's what I feel like.
Speaker 2: Somebody is probably gonna say it because it makes spookier.
Speaker 2: Everything else is a little camp.
Speaker 1: They believe it is. See, you guys are funny, which, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's not far off from stunning funny me. So wait
Speaker 1: a minute, let's play it again. Now that we know
Speaker 1: it's you guys are funny.
Speaker 2: I can hear it. I can hear that's also your brain.
Speaker 2: Whenever you tell your brain something, you know what I
Speaker 2: mean exactly.
Speaker 1: Now it's in our head. Okay, here's the last one.
Speaker 1: This one is from Sean Kane Canyre on YouTube and
Speaker 1: it was at an abandoned house in Zephyr Hill's floors.
Speaker 2: Too Leper Hills floor.
Speaker 1: Oh what is this say? Okay, this is kind of
Speaker 1: a long one. Here we go play to get.
Speaker 3: That was It was like a full on paragraph here,
Speaker 3: that's ship to say and.
Speaker 2: He's tap dancing at the same time.
Speaker 1: Literally, I hate to I hate to be like this,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I hear the word dick and ball.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I.
Speaker 2: Like it when you're playing with my dick and my balls.
Speaker 1: Who doesn't doesn't That would be an e VP extravating pets.
Speaker 2: I don't when I'm playing with my dick and my balls.
Speaker 2: Also sounds like a like a pet. Is that the
Speaker 2: pitie Pablo whisper track like.
Speaker 4: Yeah with bone while doing a kickball change, kickball change
Speaker 4: and ray and play with my dick and balls.
Speaker 1: Horay, Okay, that's not what they thought. Did they think
Speaker 1: it was a go back to your area, Richard and
Speaker 1: throw the ball? Actually, honestly, Richard, dick and ball. Did
Speaker 1: they think it was? B I went to my doctor
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm too tall. That's a that doctor
Speaker 1: lose his license? Do they think it was c They
Speaker 1: said I lived here, but I'm not sure at all.
Speaker 1: Or d I want to get my nails done at
Speaker 1: the mall.
Speaker 2: Well I need to go get my nails done. I
Speaker 2: do too, which is what I'm doing right after this. Oh,
Speaker 2: oh my god, twins.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, it's one of those.
Speaker 2: I want to say stee because it's also a little
Speaker 2: people like they're shure that I don't know it all,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't Now I hear ball again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ball is pretty clear.
Speaker 2: The ball is pretty clear.
Speaker 1: Well that is what they think it was a go
Speaker 1: back to your area, Richard and throw the ball.
Speaker 2: Well, who's Richard?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it also sounds like a ball is being thrown.
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on in that one like that
Speaker 1: little like, Yeah, that could be a ball bouncing or something.
Speaker 2: Zephyr Hills, what do you got going on over there?
Speaker 2: Bring the house to Cassadega and figure out why Richard
Speaker 2: hasn't been throwing the ball to his spooky friend. Pat
Speaker 2: it with you, Florida, Well, Detugs, that's all I have
Speaker 2: for you, De Tugs.
Speaker 1: That's that's it. We did like an hour.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I'm a little I'm a little wordy.
Speaker 1: You were perfect. You were everything I could have dreamed
Speaker 1: of and more. I'm so happy you did this.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: And if you ever encounter a ghost, please find me
Speaker 1: so we could talk about it.
Speaker 2: We should do like have you done like a live
Speaker 2: seance or anything like that? Have you gone to houses
Speaker 2: that would be a great great episode or a new series.
Speaker 1: Let me let me investigate your home when I'm in
Speaker 1: Chicago because I need YouTube content.
Speaker 2: Yeah, going to your friend's homes and be like, what's
Speaker 2: going on here?
Speaker 1: But then I'm just like redecorating. You mean, I want
Speaker 1: to go in your pool? That is what I want.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I mean, Okay, so let me
Speaker 2: tell you really quick before we leave again. The pool.
Speaker 2: I met the lady who owned the house in the
Speaker 2: seventies and she's the one who had the pool put in.
Speaker 2: There's like a five person sauna and the and the
Speaker 2: basement like it looks like a bath house. Basically, I
Speaker 2: bought a bath house. It's like our family bought a zoo.
Speaker 2: This cross truster bought a bath house. Since we're not
Speaker 2: allot in anyways, that's we're getting off subject. But I
Speaker 2: met her. She was like we had some good you
Speaker 2: could tell she was a party girl in the seventies.
Speaker 2: She's like, there's mirrors, all of them cooked in this house.
Speaker 2: That's why I bought it. But she's like smoking and
Speaker 2: thing like, oh my god, we had so much fun
Speaker 2: in that place. And when Jackie came over, she was
Speaker 2: like a lot of fun was had right here specifically,
Speaker 2: and she pointed to the bathroom that has the sauna
Speaker 2: in it, and she didn't know that there was the
Speaker 2: sun and there. She's like, lots of fun was going
Speaker 2: on right in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what was going on there. Maybe she
Speaker 2: was running the bath house.
Speaker 1: People's grandmas and grandpa's did some unspeakable Oh.
Speaker 2: My god, and that where a lot of people were conceived.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: Life started in that sauna. So what have you got
Speaker 1: going on? Where do you want people to find your dtalks?
Speaker 2: I've got all kinds of things going on, and I'll
Speaker 2: be everywhere, and I'm not sure exactly where I am
Speaker 2: when I'm there, but all of my details will be
Speaker 2: on the only de talks on Instagram Twitter, brinder Tender,
Speaker 2: my website the onlydetalks dot com.
Speaker 1: Where am I.
Speaker 2: I'm somewhere for Halloween, I think. I'm sure I have
Speaker 2: a bunch of gigs coming up, and I don't know
Speaker 2: exactly what dates are, where and when this is coming out,
Speaker 2: but I'll be around in your city, I'm sure hopefully
Speaker 2: sometime soon come find me.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for doing this. I so appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Detox. I so appreciate her vulnerability,
Speaker 1: her set, humor. She was a perfect guest. That was
Speaker 1: exactly what I want. That's what I want from my guests.
Speaker 1: I'm going to start say new guests, this is what
Speaker 1: we're looking for, this level of guestness. She's an icon.
Speaker 1: I love her so much, and I love you both
Speaker 1: living and dead.
Speaker 5: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
Speaker 5: haunt me. Okay, back, this has been an exactly right production.
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Speaker 5: My senior producer is the startling Jiha. The associate producer
Speaker 5: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 5: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi.
Speaker 1: My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production
Speaker 1: support from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme
Speaker 1: music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork
Speaker 1: by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen.
Speaker 1: Executive produced by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia
Speaker 1: Hart Start and the frightening Danielle Kramer.