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Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I said, Nandas. Please hey boo, it's me ros and

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Speaker 1: welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I

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Speaker 1: talk to people that I like about the Para normal.

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Speaker 1: It is fully October right now. It's actually my birthday week.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for all of the well wishes. It's

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Speaker 1: almost the end of October. Soon, we still have a

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Speaker 1: little bit left, So please do me the favor of

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Speaker 1: just telling everyone you know about the show, letting them

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Speaker 1: know how queer and silly we get over here. But

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Speaker 1: also we can get deep. We don't always get deep,

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Speaker 1: and I'm very grateful because today's episode we kind of

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Speaker 1: go there a little bit. There's some laughs, but you know,

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Speaker 1: really really great that we have these conversations. So we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that in just a moment. First, let me

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Speaker 1: read you a ghost story. This one comes from Amy

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Speaker 1: Amy Rights. I was living in an old house outside

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Speaker 1: of Saint Louis. It was built around nineteen thirty. I

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Speaker 1: never felt anything weird there until my daughter was a baby.

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Speaker 1: She would follow things with her eyes and laugh and smile.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? Like, Oh, there's nothing better than a

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Speaker 1: child's laughter, something more special. A child's laughter is adorable

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Speaker 1: and the greatest thing ever, unless it's directed at an

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Speaker 1: invisible presence, or even worse, if there is no baby present,

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Speaker 1: that's probably the worst. But anyway, this is the baby

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Speaker 1: laughing at something that's not there. When she was about

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Speaker 1: eight months old, we took her to the Lamp Mansion

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Speaker 1: one day. Okay, sorry I keep interrupting this story. If

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Speaker 1: you don't know about the Lemp Mansion, might I suggest

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Speaker 1: you watch episode eight of the television show Living for

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Speaker 1: the Dead on Hulu, which I am on, and it

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Speaker 1: is a haunted old house in Saint Louis. Just watch

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Speaker 1: the episode. Okay. So we just went in and looked

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Speaker 1: around for a minute. That night, I fell asleep with

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Speaker 1: she started talking about someone named Wilkes. She'd say, Wilkes

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Speaker 1: Wilkes wrote that it means, and then spoke some nonsense

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Speaker 1: thank you Amy so much for sending me that. Today

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Speaker 1: Before we get to that, are you watching The Haunted

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Speaker 1: All my new YouTube series. I have now released three episodes.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing every other week. Also, if you're in Los

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Speaker 1: doing Ghosted Live at Largo the thirtieth of October. I

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Speaker 1: roz Hernandez. Okay, here we go. I'm talking to d

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Speaker 1: twenty years dtogs Hi Hi, I remember when you had

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Speaker 2: I never used that last name. Jackie Bet gave me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, jack on your podcast, Yeah absolutely, Jackie, Well you're

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Speaker 1: talking about Jackies speaking of and she is not good

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Speaker 1: I met Jackie, and I take her places. We got

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Speaker 2: I've lived all over the place. My dad was in

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Speaker 1: Did you grow up in a haunted house?

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Speaker 2: I don't remember it because my brother and I have

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll give it to us.

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Speaker 2: Well, apparently I don't really know all the details, but

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Speaker 2: But for my entire life I've always heard about the hunt,

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Speaker 2: It's been very liberating and very exciting, and I'm very

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Speaker 2: Why was no one supportive of me when I was

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Speaker 2: Maybe? My sister, like my parents and my sister used

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Speaker 1: That we do. Tell me another ghost story or do

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Speaker 1: you have like any other life?

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Speaker 2: You tell me a ghost story?

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Speaker 1: Now, that's all I do. I want to hear it

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Speaker 2: Well, the house that I live in now, I don't

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Speaker 2: that's always given me the hubgb's And before she hadn't

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00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 2: seen the house, hadn't like I hadn't told her about

434
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: this house at all or any of my vibes that

435
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: I get from it. But before we even stepped in.

436
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: She was like, I'm not going into that room that's

437
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 2: in the basement. And I was like, what are you

438
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: talking about. She's like, you know the room and I

439
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: was like, I know the room. She's like, I'm not

440
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: going into it. And it was weird, and it was

441
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, She's like, I have to go

442
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 2: in there right now and double sage it. And she

443
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: walked into the house, went right to where it was

444
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 2: without even knowing like the layout of anything, and started

445
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: saging it. And I was like, I just got the

446
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: fills from that too.

447
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: She needed to double say, she said, I got the

448
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: backup for this room.

449
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened here, but I don't like it.

450
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: And I don't know if anything happened here. You know,

451
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 2: there's no record of anything tragic or anything like that

452
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: happening here. But I also feel there's this one room

453
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: where I feel like an ex boyfriend of mine who

454
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: was passed on, who I feel like he's always kind

455
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: of around. I feel like he hangs out there a lot.

456
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: And that's what she said as well. So it's kind

457
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: of like dark and mysterious and a little spooky. And

458
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: he was dark and mysterious and a little spooky, and

459
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: I feel like he hangs out there just to not

460
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: for anything, and this, and she said this too. She's like,

461
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: he doesn't hang out there to like do anything harmful.

462
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: He's there to just watch over you. But it's it's

463
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: still kind of like a you know, he died, it's

464
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: probably still a negative energy.

465
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about psychics in your relationship with them.

466
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: I love psychics.

467
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: Have you been to quite a few.

468
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: I've gone to quite a few. Some of them have

469
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: been spot on. Some of them have been like truly

470
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 2: like scarily accurate, which always blows my mind. And then

471
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: it's like then I have to remind myself, well, I'm

472
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 2: kind of googleable. Some of this shit is very you know,

473
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: probably public knowledge because I am very open and talk

474
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: about my life very candidly, which I probably shouldn't.

475
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: Do, as mush.

476
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: But and then some of them, you know, just are

477
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: like I can see them grasping at straws and trying

478
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: to get to me. But you also have to be

479
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: in the right headspace to talk to a psyche. You

480
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: have to be very open to it. And if you

481
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: get caught by people who you're not really open to

482
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: or this is how I am. If I if I'm

483
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: just not vibing well with whoever I'm speaking with, then

484
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: I just kind of close off, or I'm like, don't

485
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: give them much to work.

486
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: With, right.

487
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: But Jackie my sister's girlfriend who I was mentioning earlier,

488
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 2: who's the medium she at my dad's service when we

489
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: were having like the memorial from my father after he passed.

490
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: She kept looking at me from across the table. She

491
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: was like, I need to talk to you. I need

492
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: to talk to you right now. We have to go outside,

493
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: And so we went outside and she told me all

494
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: this crazy shit about the boyfriend in question that my

495
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: sister didn't even know, that I hadn't talked to anybody about.

496
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 2: She had so many specific details. It was like word vomit.

497
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: One thing after another after another after another, and she

498
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head with every single thing.

499
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: That was pretty pretty amazing and very impressive.

500
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: Have you been to them, like for predictions?

501
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: Not really for predictions. I mean I do like a

502
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: lot of taro. There's a really have you ever been

503
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: to Casadega in Florida.

504
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: I've heard of it. It's like a spiritualist community and

505
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: there's lots of psychics, and yeah it is.

506
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: I went to my first psychic there and she again

507
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: was incredible. Actually, my entire family has since gone to her.

508
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: And I was with a friend of mine at the time,

509
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 2: and he went first because I paid for us both

510
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: to go, and I was like, okay, so you go first.

511
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: And he went in and was there. I mean, I'm

512
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: sure he was there for his whole session, but shortly

513
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: came out and he was like, girl, I really got

514
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: nothing from her, but all she kept doing was talking

515
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: about you. So she really needs to you to come

516
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: in because she has she has a lot of messages

517
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: for you. And as soon as I got it, I

518
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: still have the recording.

519
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: She probably knew that you paid, so she's like, she's

520
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: getting good with the person with the money.

521
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: Where's the mommy, Bring the mommy in here? Come.

522
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: What do you think of aliens? They're out there.

523
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: They're out there, don't you think. Don't you think we

524
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: can't live on this globe and not and that's this

525
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 2: huge universe and not have something else out there. They

526
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: got to be out there, and I feel like they're here.

527
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: They've got to be here, So I mean, I don't

528
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: know Vicky is the person to talk to about the aliens.

529
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh, Vicky Fogs.

530
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: Yes, Vicky Vox is the one to talk to you

531
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: about the aliens. That she is obsessed with all of that,

532
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: and she's you know, she gets in the little rabbit

533
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: hole of digging on YouTube and all the all those things,

534
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: and she would be the one to talk to you.

535
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: But I feel like this world is too big for

536
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: there's something to not be anything else besides us slowly

537
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: human beings. Yes, of this burning cesspool of a rock

538
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: called earth.

539
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a reading from Vicky?

540
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: I have had conversations with Vicky. She doesn't often like

541
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: to read me because we're so close, right, And a

542
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: lot of times she says that, uh, spirit blocks it

543
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: because we're because we're just so close and we know

544
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: so much about each other and we can kind of

545
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: read each other's minds. In certain cases, that that they

546
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: protect her from being the vessel, which I totally get.

547
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: But there's also been times where I've been my girl,

548
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: what's going on with this situation or with this love interest.

549
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: Or unprotected vessel for a minute from mine?

550
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 2: Right, And sometimes she'll call me and she's like, listen, girl,

551
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: you know, I don't like doing this. I love you,

552
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: but fucking spirit won't leave me alone. And needed to

553
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: know you're up to some shit that you shouldn't be

554
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: or you're dealing with some people that you shouldn't be

555
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: dealing with, or you're hanging like something funky, and here's

556
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: what I know, and so be mindful of it. And

557
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: then she's all right, bye, are you? But I've witnessed

558
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: I've witnessed her like read strangers and it is incredible.

559
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen her read. I've seen her read audiences

560
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: before Hamburger, Mary's Brunch or the abbey. She's reading these

561
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: bitches left and right.

562
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: Is this the drag kind of reading though?

563
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: Or the speech is a little bit of Colin A

564
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: and B a little bit of both. Are you a

565
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: believer in fate or like synchronicities?

566
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: Yes?

567
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: Do you think like when stuff happens on the daily?

568
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Are you like that's a.

569
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe in signs. I also I believe in

570
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: like I have a lot of deja vu.

571
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: Ooh, I have a lot.

572
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: Of deja vu, which also, but that just reminds me

573
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: of like I'm like, I've I've dreamt this before or

574
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: I've lived this before, or I like I've seen whatever

575
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: this like movie that's playing behind my eyeballs right now

576
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: of what is in the present, like I've I've this

577
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: is an experience I have had before, like verbatim and

578
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: like to every like every little detail where I'm like,

579
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: didn't we just have this conversation a couple of weeks together?

580
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 2: They're like, No, we're meeting somebody that I'm like, I

581
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: swear I know, like I know you, I know you?

582
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: How do I know you? And it's not being the case.

583
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: But I also believe in you know, destiny and fate

584
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: and like and karmatic fate is truly what I believe in.

585
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: It's like whatever kind of energy you're putting out there,

586
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: you're destined for whatever you're saying up there. So be

587
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: nice to people. People exactly.

588
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: This is the worst question I ever asked people. Can

589
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: you think of a time off the top of your

590
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: head of like a synchronicity something something in your life where.

591
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: Where things just clicked and made sense?

592
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, or like I don't know something, what's an example?

593
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me a good example so I can think

594
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: of that, because I'm sure I have something. As I

595
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: hit my.

596
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Like a coincidence, but you're like, that's not a coincidence

597
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: that I think that's too good to be true, like

598
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: or like I should have went to this place and

599
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: then I didn't that day and then this happened, or

600
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: oh well.

601
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: Again back to well this is this was to my sister.

602
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: I'm back to that haunted house that we lived in

603
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: when we were younger. She I guess she like hurt

604
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: her finger or something playing basketball and called my mother

605
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: and demanded that my mother come to pick her up.

606
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 2: And she was like, at school's almost over, You're fine,

607
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: it's just a finger, You'll be good. She's like, I

608
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: need to be picked up now. I need to be

609
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: picked up now. And so my mom, you know, she

610
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: had just put my brother and I down to nap,

611
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: had to wake us up, go get my sister, take

612
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: her home, and then you know, like maybe half an

613
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: hour later, she got a call from one of my sisters,

614
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: like students mothers asking if Heather had made it home,

615
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: and she was like, yeah, I had to go pick

616
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: her up in school. She's like, oh, my kid hasn't

617
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: made it home yet. And come to find out, there

618
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: was a terrible accident on the bus that my sister

619
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: was supposed to take home and it like went over

620
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: a freeway near SeaWorld in Orlando and people died.

621
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: Are you serious?

622
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, she just told me that story. My mom just

623
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: told me that story right before I got on the

624
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: phone with you. I think, what happened with my brother's

625
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: a little lake? Think what does the word synchronosity, synchronistic? Synchronistic?

626
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: I had?

627
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: Okay, this is like a little this is a little morbid.

628
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: And I don't talk about this often because it puts

629
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: me in a dark place.

630
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: But well you don't have to if you don't want to.

631
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: Now whatever I'm I'm I'm I'm trying to be even

632
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: more open than I already am. Okay, that says I

633
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: think this is a perfect podcast for that.

634
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: Totally.

635
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: The night that my boyfriend committed suicide, he was begging

636
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: me to come over and I was going to go

637
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 2: over there, and something in my mind told me not

638
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: to go over there. I just didn't. I didn't feel

639
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: safe to do it, and so I didn't. And then

640
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: that's the night that in the middle of the night

641
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: I got the call that I needed to come to

642
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: the house.

643
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's that's a deep one, and.

644
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: We talk about as a family. We talk about it often,

645
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: something that I'm working on with my therapist too, and

646
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's a burden that I've held on

647
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: to for a long time, so I think it's probably

648
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: healthy to talk about it and try to like release

649
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 2: some of that that I always hold on too. But

650
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: it's something that's always weighed on my mind, like what

651
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: if what if I would have gone over there? Could

652
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: I have helped him? What if I went over there

653
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: and I couldn't help myself?

654
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we can drive ourselves crazy with the

655
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: what ifs. Yeah, it's hard.

656
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: Life and life is wild.

657
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for sharing that.

658
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: I think that's why, especially now, I'm like, I'm going

659
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: to live my life to as as full as i

660
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: can while I have it in this vessel until the

661
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: next one and hopefully the next one will be even greater.

662
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: That is definitely something I think you can learn from

663
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: loss is like, oh wow, this does end, like you

664
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: really you don't know how long you're gonna get, so

665
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: you might as well make the most of it.

666
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: I've had. I mean, I don't know how much loss

667
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: you've experienced. I've experienced a ton of loss, in my life,

668
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: and it's been, you know, a great tragedy of my

669
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: life to have gone through so much loss, but it's

670
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 2: also been I think rewarding in a way to live

671
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: every day as if it's your last. You never know

672
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: what's going to happen, like you know, all those all

673
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: those stereotypical things that people say about grief and living

674
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 2: life to its fullest potential and capabilities, but also trying

675
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: to enjoy it as much as you can, even though

676
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: it feels like the world is you know, going to hell,

677
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: which it is, trying to find some kind of joy

678
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: and levity in the situation.

679
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: I know it's so important, and that's why I like,

680
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: I just feel like as awful as the circumstances are

681
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: or ever will be, I have to have fun, Like

682
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: I have to find a way to have fun with it.

683
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: Like I feel like, I don't know, I literally just

684
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: watched Titanic on an airplane the other day. Like the

685
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: people playing the music as it's like sinking, I feel

686
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: like I would be like making jokes or something.

687
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm like, well, bitch, if we're all dying, we

688
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: might as well might as well have fun. Get the

689
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: champs out I'm ready exactly.

690
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, where should we go from here?

691
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: No, I didn't mean to get deep.

692
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: Sorry girl, Now I love it on This show has

693
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: been so silly lately, which which I do love.

694
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: But we love a silly little show.

695
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: I love a silly little show. Oh, she's just doing

696
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: a silly little show. But that is a thing like

697
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: these conversations about spiritual All of this concerns so many

698
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: different aspects. It concerns science, religion, history, love, loss, but

699
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: it ultimately a lot of it involves life and death,

700
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: and you know, there's this tragedy within that, there's beauty

701
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: within it. These conversations can definitely be very real and

702
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: intense or however you want to look at it, but

703
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: it's a part of the conversation absolutely, So thank you

704
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: for that.

705
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: Are you wrapping this up?

706
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: For what is? Are we doing? We wrap it up?

707
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: We don't have to.

708
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: That was it?

709
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: No, that wasn't it. That was just my little piece

710
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: about us getting deep.

711
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: And girls, I guess love to go deep.

712
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: What do you think of bigfoot shifting gears? I have one,

713
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: I have two, Bigfoot Do you think that's real?

714
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what I feel about bigfoot or Lockness

715
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 2: Monster or you know any of those things.

716
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, Chicago has Mothman.

717
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: I have heard of moth Man, even though I live

718
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: here and I've been here for seven years now. I

719
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: need to like dive deep into all the lore that

720
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: Chicago has. I've been on several of the ghost tours,

721
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: which are really fun. You have highly recommend if you come.

722
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: There's like a lot of you know, with the fires

723
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: and all the other shit that's happened in Chicago and

724
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: all the mafia. Yeah, there are some good ghost tours here.

725
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: And I don't know much about Mothman, to be honest.

726
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: Do I want to say Bigfoot exists? Sure? Is it

727
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: a species? Is it aliens? Like? What is? You know?

728
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 2: Are there more big big feet? Are there multiple Lackness monsters?

729
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: Or is it just a big turd? I don't know.

730
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: I would like to are giants reel?

731
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: I think I know a few.

732
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: Named them.

733
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: I there's theories of all of those things you just listened.

734
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: Some people will say it's an alien, some people will

735
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: say it's a species. The Mothman is very interesting. Actually,

736
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries just recently did an episode about Mothman

737
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: and It's interesting because Mothman was always very West Virginia

738
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: and then the past few years became Chicago. Honestly, maybe

739
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: Mothman heard that you moved to Chicago.

740
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I am most Frans.

741
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: That's what I'm always trying to defend. We don't know

742
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Mothman's pronouns, and I think it should just be moth

743
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: them for now, right until we.

744
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 2: Know Mathi, we'll just call it Mathi, Mathi giving Mathi.

745
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 2: I need to dive into that. But also, it's global warming,

746
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: so maybe it's just migration issues. Maybe the mo moth people,

747
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: moth persons are now in Chicago because why not be

748
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: in Chicago instead of West Virginia?

749
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: Right, I love Chicago. Oh my god, I actually hearing

750
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: about you with a pool in your home in Chicago.

751
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: That sounds like such a dream.

752
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: Please come visit and tell me if you think my

753
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 2: house is haunted.

754
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: I absolutely will. What about haunted like.

755
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: Objects like items? Yeah, for sure. There was this thing

756
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: that my mom used to have and I can't even

757
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: remember what it was now, but it always creeped me

758
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: out as a kid. And then I had this doll,

759
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: of course that I loved as a kid, and It

760
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: always freaked the rest of my family out, but I

761
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: loved it and would I would go everywhere with it.

762
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: What was it?

763
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: It was like it almost looked like a little Chucky doll.

764
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: To be honest, it was like it looks like me.

765
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: It had like bright red hair, a little freckles. It

766
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: wasn't like as like big or wild looking as Chucky,

767
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: but it was definitely like, you know, cabbage patch adjacent.

768
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 2: And I was obsessed with this doll, but it would

769
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: freak everyone out. I also had a really weird ventriloquis

770
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: stummy that I got it up their story, yard sale

771
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: or something that always scared everyone. But I was also

772
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 2: could never let that thing go because it also looked

773
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: like me. You know, I've always looked like a puppet,

774
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: a little ginger puppet with freckles, so not much has

775
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: changed in that regard.

776
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Can I show you a haunted doll? Yes, it's time

777
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: for the dolls are living living, Okay. So here's what

778
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: I do de talks. Every week, I go to eBay

779
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: dot com. I type in the words haunted doll. There

780
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: are thousands of haunted dolls on eBay always, and here

781
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: is one for you today. I would like you to

782
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: meet Elizabeth.

783
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: Hi, Lizzie.

784
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: Elizabeth is currently going for nineteen dollars. Let's take a

785
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: look at can can we see a picture with more outfit?

786
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: There she is, she's kind of giving Yes, she's.

787
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: Got like is that a bonnet? What is that?

788
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: It's a really sweet little easter bonnet. I'm interested in

789
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: that hand. That hand is doing some weird She's like

790
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: throwing up gang signs with that hand.

791
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: She's just kind of sliding that in there a little.

792
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: She's a little little little bo peep.

793
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: A little mo peep. That's what the kids called me

794
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: at school.

795
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: Wow, she's a little mo cute cut Creese could use

796
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: a bigger lash. Possibly, I'm into those brows. Honestly. The

797
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: makeups not bad.

798
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: It's not bad. She's cute. The pupils are a little dilated.

799
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: Maybe she knows that a party, but real she So.

800
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about these ebayhunted dolls. They always come

801
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: with biographies.

802
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I need the biography. Give it to me. Is

803
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: she missing a hand?

804
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: Oh, it looks like.

805
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Missing a hand. Who hurt you, little peep?

806
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

807
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: I think she's missing a hand. Well, let's see if

808
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: it says anything about that in this bio. And by

809
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: the way, usually the idea with these is that a

810
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: formerly living human being dies and then somehow ends up

811
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: the doll. Yeah, oh, you know.

812
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: You don't have one of those dolls already. Do you

813
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: ever buy any of these dolls? Actually, why not?

814
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: I will not, though I do have a vintage Liberachi

815
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: doll that is here at the studio and I'm obsessed. Okay,

816
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: So it's meet Elizabeth. By the way, she's going for

817
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: nineteen dollars, which is that's a discount, Diva. They're usually

818
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: way more than that.

819
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: I might have to get her.

820
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: Meet Elizabeth. Fair and beautiful, but also cunning and vile.

821
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: She poisoned all three of her younger siblings. No one

822
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: suspected a sweet faced beauty like Elizabeth to be so evil.

823
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: It was in the early nineteen hundreds, so detective work

824
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: was lacking, and eventually her nanny was blamed and put

825
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: to death. Elizabeth rejoiced that she duped everyone, and then

826
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: she received all the attention from everyone for her mournful suffering.

827
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: This was the theme of her life, continuous cruel acts.

828
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: She basically killed two of her husbands. Wow, okay, so

829
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: work Diva said she was widowed twice by her own doing.

830
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: She eventually messed with the wrong person and he had

831
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: enough and pushed Elizabeth off the cliff. Elizabeth has the

832
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: tendency of turning lights on. If she is near a

833
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: light and it is off, she will turn it on.

834
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: She also dances to the flame of a candle. If

835
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: you stare into the center of the flame, you most

836
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: likely will see her nude pale skin swaying in the flame.

837
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: But be careful. Not only will your eyes start to

838
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: sting and blur your Wait a second, now, there's a

839
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: lot of spelling errors. I apologize. Not only will your

840
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: eyes start to sting and blur your vision, she will

841
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: attempt to put you in a trance and lead you

842
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: to do unscrupulous things. You will know it was almost over.

843
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: Don't worry. You will know when she leaves her vessel

844
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: to wander. If you get a sudden chill and smell

845
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: of magnolias, the tale sign she is likely hovering over you.

846
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: Elizabeth, she sounds like a party and I like her.

847
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: She will get naked and dance to your candles. Don't

848
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: fall for it. She might try to kill you, but

849
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: she sounds fun.

850
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: She sounds fun. Somebody come out there and buy Elizabeth.

851
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: Nineteen dollars e Bay dollars is a steal.

852
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: Have you ever bought a haunted doll from me?

853
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: By absolutely not. I's wrong with you. A lot of

854
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: things do tugs.

855
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: You have to do it for research for the pod.

856
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: Well, I am doing research for the pod right now,

857
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: which is I'm going around staying in haunted hotel rooms

858
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: and I'm putting it on YouTube love It's called the

859
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: Haunted Doll. So that is my research. But that I

860
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: like can leave the hotel. I don't want to bring

861
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: a haunted doll into my life.

862
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like if you if you bring something

863
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 2: into your space, and that's where that's where things get dicey,

864
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: because at.

865
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: This point this has become my job in some way,

866
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: like it is my job, and I like the fact

867
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: that my home is not haunted, and so I feel

868
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: like I don't want to bring my work home and

869
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: I can't have.

870
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: Ghosts a year in a studio?

871
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, should we have one in the studio?

872
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: I haunt that shit.

873
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: I would feel so bad and.

874
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: See who all, see who all is affected by the

875
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 2: spirits of Elizabeth you know what I don't like about

876
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: Elizabeth is that her pupil placement one is a little

877
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: off kilter, so she looks like she has a little

878
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: lazy eye. But it also looks like she's shifty, like

879
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: she's got when I looking at you and when I'm

880
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: looking for revenge.

881
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: Ooh, she's always on the.

882
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: Pro which it's me a little bit, Elizabeth.

883
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: What do you think of her hair? Hard front, hard front.

884
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: The glue is yellowing, which does tell me that it

885
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: might be you see the glue, so it does give old.

886
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: The ribbon looks very new, though, so I'm not sure

887
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: how old. She doesn't say how old.

888
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: She is musty old wig the old. It does not

889
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: say whatever. I don't know. Hey can I hey, hey,

890
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: can I play some ghost voices? Yeah, it's time for

891
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: ev or ev Please? Have you ever heard the term EVP?

892
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 3: No?

893
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: Tolly uh?

894
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: It stands for extravainy penis, So you.

895
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: Do know it?

896
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, familiar, I'm familiar with that verbiage.

897
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: It's a different one actually, this one is electronic voice phenomena.

898
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, of course of course.

899
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 1: So it's basically like on a ghost a dig show

900
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: when they believe they've heard a ghosts speak and it's

901
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: like that was better than most of them. So basically

902
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: not unlike with eBay the Internet, you know, people are

903
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: putting their stuff up there all the time. Sometimes they're good. Actually,

904
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: I think that ones today are pretty good. I've got

905
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: two of them for you, and I'm gonna play them

906
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: for you, and I want you to tell me what

907
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: you hear and then I'll give you an abc D

908
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: one of them being the right answer what they believe

909
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: the ghosts that. So this first one is from Parallel

910
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: Realms with a Z that's their name on YouTube.

911
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 2: Because they're edgy.

912
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Parallel Realms And it's at a private residence.

913
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying?

914
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: Can I hear it again?

915
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: Yes, there's some like scratchy scratchiness from the recording going on,

916
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: but it's this voice that's.

917
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: Like, can I tell you what I'm hearing?

918
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: What you here?

919
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: Can I say? Fag? This is just the fag in me?

920
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: Well, a ghost called me that word. Actually at this point,

921
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: multiple times, I have captured.

922
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: I say, multiple people. I was like, I'm one of them.

923
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: The living and the dead have called me that word.

924
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: And I'm fine with that.

925
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: I heard. Okay, this is what I heard. Looks stunning,

926
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 2: and that's just the.

927
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: Fag in me. Absolutely. Do you hear it to me?

928
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: It sounds like some old queen that's at a salon

929
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: or something just did your hair. And then it's like,

930
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: you look stunning.

931
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: That's right, like cigarette in hand, yes, teasing comb in

932
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 2: the other hand. You look stunning.

933
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well that's not what they thought. Here's

934
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: the ABCG options. Did they think it was a you

935
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: want some fun tea? Oh, B, you try to fight me?

936
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: C you guys are funny guys? Or d you like

937
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: it funky? Okay, it's one of those. Let me play

938
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: it again.

939
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: You tried to fight me. That's what I feel like.

940
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: Somebody is probably gonna say it because it makes spookier.

941
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: Everything else is a little camp.

942
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: They believe it is. See, you guys are funny, which, honestly,

943
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: that's not far off from stunning funny me. So wait

944
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: a minute, let's play it again. Now that we know

945
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: it's you guys are funny.

946
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: I can hear it. I can hear that's also your brain.

947
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: Whenever you tell your brain something, you know what I

948
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: mean exactly.

949
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: Now it's in our head. Okay, here's the last one.

950
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: This one is from Sean Kane Canyre on YouTube and

951
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: it was at an abandoned house in Zephyr Hill's floors.

952
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: Too Leper Hills floor.

953
00:51:54,880 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: Oh what is this say? Okay, this is kind of

954
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: a long one. Here we go play to get.

955
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 3: That was It was like a full on paragraph here,

956
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 3: that's ship to say and.

957
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: He's tap dancing at the same time.

958
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: Literally, I hate to I hate to be like this,

959
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: but I feel like I hear the word dick and ball.

960
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I.

961
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 2: Like it when you're playing with my dick and my balls.

962
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: Who doesn't doesn't That would be an e VP extravating pets.

963
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: I don't when I'm playing with my dick and my balls.

964
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: Also sounds like a like a pet. Is that the

965
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: pitie Pablo whisper track like.

966
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 4: Yeah with bone while doing a kickball change, kickball change

967
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 4: and ray and play with my dick and balls.

968
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: Horay, Okay, that's not what they thought. Did they think

969
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: it was a go back to your area, Richard and

970
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: throw the ball? Actually, honestly, Richard, dick and ball. Did

971
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: they think it was? B I went to my doctor

972
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm too tall. That's a that doctor

973
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: lose his license? Do they think it was c They

974
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 1: said I lived here, but I'm not sure at all.

975
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: Or d I want to get my nails done at

976
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: the mall.

977
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: Well I need to go get my nails done. I

978
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 2: do too, which is what I'm doing right after this. Oh,

979
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: oh my god, twins.

980
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, it's one of those.

981
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 2: I want to say stee because it's also a little

982
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: people like they're shure that I don't know it all,

983
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: but it doesn't Now I hear ball again.

984
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ball is pretty clear.

985
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: The ball is pretty clear.

986
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: Well that is what they think it was a go

987
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 1: back to your area, Richard and throw the ball.

988
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: Well, who's Richard?

989
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't know.

990
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it also sounds like a ball is being thrown.

991
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on in that one like that

992
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: little like, Yeah, that could be a ball bouncing or something.

993
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: Zephyr Hills, what do you got going on over there?

994
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: Bring the house to Cassadega and figure out why Richard

995
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: hasn't been throwing the ball to his spooky friend. Pat

996
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: it with you, Florida, Well, Detugs, that's all I have

997
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: for you, De Tugs.

998
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: That's that's it. We did like an hour.

999
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I'm a little I'm a little wordy.

1000
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: You were perfect. You were everything I could have dreamed

1001
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: of and more. I'm so happy you did this.

1002
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

1003
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: And if you ever encounter a ghost, please find me

1004
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: so we could talk about it.

1005
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 2: We should do like have you done like a live

1006
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: seance or anything like that? Have you gone to houses

1007
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: that would be a great great episode or a new series.

1008
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: Let me let me investigate your home when I'm in

1009
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: Chicago because I need YouTube content.

1010
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, going to your friend's homes and be like, what's

1011
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: going on here?

1012
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: But then I'm just like redecorating. You mean, I want

1013
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: to go in your pool? That is what I want.

1014
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I mean, Okay, so let me

1015
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 2: tell you really quick before we leave again. The pool.

1016
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: I met the lady who owned the house in the

1017
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: seventies and she's the one who had the pool put in.

1018
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: There's like a five person sauna and the and the

1019
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: basement like it looks like a bath house. Basically, I

1020
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: bought a bath house. It's like our family bought a zoo.

1021
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: This cross truster bought a bath house. Since we're not

1022
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 2: allot in anyways, that's we're getting off subject. But I

1023
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: met her. She was like we had some good you

1024
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: could tell she was a party girl in the seventies.

1025
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: She's like, there's mirrors, all of them cooked in this house.

1026
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: That's why I bought it. But she's like smoking and

1027
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: thing like, oh my god, we had so much fun

1028
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: in that place. And when Jackie came over, she was

1029
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 2: like a lot of fun was had right here specifically,

1030
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: and she pointed to the bathroom that has the sauna

1031
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: in it, and she didn't know that there was the

1032
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: sun and there. She's like, lots of fun was going

1033
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: on right in there.

1034
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1035
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what was going on there. Maybe she

1036
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 2: was running the bath house.

1037
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: People's grandmas and grandpa's did some unspeakable Oh.

1038
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: My god, and that where a lot of people were conceived.

1039
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: For sure.

1040
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: Life started in that sauna. So what have you got

1041
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: going on? Where do you want people to find your dtalks?

1042
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 2: I've got all kinds of things going on, and I'll

1043
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: be everywhere, and I'm not sure exactly where I am

1044
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: when I'm there, but all of my details will be

1045
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: on the only de talks on Instagram Twitter, brinder Tender,

1046
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: my website the onlydetalks dot com.

1047
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: Where am I.

1048
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm somewhere for Halloween, I think. I'm sure I have

1049
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: a bunch of gigs coming up, and I don't know

1050
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: exactly what dates are, where and when this is coming out,

1051
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: but I'll be around in your city, I'm sure hopefully

1052
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: sometime soon come find me.

1053
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for doing this. I so appreciate it.

1054
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

1055
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Detox. I so appreciate her vulnerability,

1056
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: her set, humor. She was a perfect guest. That was

1057
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: exactly what I want. That's what I want from my guests.

1058
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to start say new guests, this is what

1059
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 1: we're looking for, this level of guestness. She's an icon.

1060
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: I love her so much, and I love you both

1061
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: living and dead.

1062
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 5: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

1063
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 5: haunt me. Okay, back, this has been an exactly right production.

1064
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 5: Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I

1065
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 5: read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you.

1066
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 5: So email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

1067
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 5: You can send a DM or voice message to the

1068
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 5: show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

1069
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 5: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

1070
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 5: roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

1071
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 5: My senior producer is the startling Jiha. The associate producer

1072
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 5: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

1073
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 5: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi.

1074
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production

1075
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: support from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme

1076
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork

1077
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen.

1078
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: Executive produced by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia

1079
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: Hart Start and the frightening Danielle Kramer.