Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Speaker 3: I got a report from the USDR last night that
Speaker 3: more than fifty countries have reached out to the President
Speaker 3: to begin a negotiation. But they're doing that because they
Speaker 3: understand that they bear a lot of the tariff. And
Speaker 3: so I don't think that you're going to see a
Speaker 3: big effect on the consumer in the US, because I
Speaker 3: do think that the reason why we have a persistent
Speaker 3: long run trade deficit is these people have very inelastic supply.
Speaker 3: They've been dumping goods into the country in order to
Speaker 3: create job, say in China.
Speaker 1: One of the many Trump people that went on the
Speaker 1: Sunday talk shows yesterday to it try to explain why
Speaker 1: this isn't as bad as it might look, or the
Speaker 1: long term plan, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I do know this.
Speaker 1: When we came on the air today, I took a
Speaker 1: look at the old Dow just as the uh, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of a national meter avowed the mood or whatever,
Speaker 1: and it was down I think sixteen hundred. Now like
Speaker 1: a minute ago it was down one hundred, so I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, what's going on there. I wonder
Speaker 1: if did somebody make a phone call and say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we're going to end this in like a week, so
Speaker 1: don't freak out.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wonder if somebody whispered something.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happened where it is at the end
Speaker 1: of the day though, because it was a very rough
Speaker 1: start very early on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the S and P.
Speaker 4: While the nastac's actually up a little bit. The S
Speaker 4: and P is down about a quarter a point having
Speaker 4: rebounded so well.
Speaker 1: But imagine if at the end of the day the
Speaker 1: Dow ends up flatter up, what are the talking points
Speaker 1: going to be from the tariff haters at that point.
Speaker 1: One other thing, though, the Trump guy there saying people
Speaker 1: in America haven't seen any of these prices yet. One
Speaker 1: of my favorite commentators, who's a straight shooter, over the
Speaker 1: weekend said they he the way he does his Amazon
Speaker 1: basket is he regularly put stuff in the basket and
Speaker 1: like he'll get to buying it later. And he had
Speaker 1: ten things in his basket from like a week or
Speaker 1: so ago, and then over the weekend, all ten of
Speaker 1: them had gone up various amounts in price. Wow, which
Speaker 1: was surprising to me. I haven't been keeping an eye
Speaker 1: on it that closely. I don't know if you're feeling
Speaker 1: any of this or not. Do you put stuff in
Speaker 1: the basket then buy it all at once? I don't
Speaker 1: either click any click when I need it, because otherwise
Speaker 1: I'd forget, I would think. But that's not the operative
Speaker 1: question here, Katie.
Speaker 5: Oh, My save for a later list is embarrassingly long.
Speaker 2: Oh really? Oh yeah, Because I'll see.
Speaker 5: Something I'm like, oh, that's cool, and I'll put it
Speaker 5: in there, and then I checked the other day.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow, I need to stop yesterday.
Speaker 1: Do you ever look at it and think what was
Speaker 1: I thinking when I put that in the basket?
Speaker 5: All the time. There's a couple of tequila ideas in there.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, golf clubs. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: play golf.
Speaker 4: What's a tequila idea? I'm going to drink some. That's
Speaker 4: the only idea I've ever read.
Speaker 5: Where I've had some tequila and I think things are
Speaker 5: a good idea.
Speaker 2: And then later and I'm like, ah, drunk purchases.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, hey, at least I put them in the
Speaker 5: basket and I.
Speaker 2: Don't make them right yeah, man, if I if I
Speaker 2: still all right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, my wife is texting me right now, don't bother, honey.
Speaker 1: I know if I still drink, i'd want a breathalyzer
Speaker 1: attached to my Amazon account. You got to blow into
Speaker 1: it before I can put anything in the cart.
Speaker 2: That is such a good idea.
Speaker 4: Well, that's been proposed for your phone too, so you
Speaker 4: don't you know, booty call your ex and advisedly and
Speaker 4: that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Drunk texting in general. Right, oh oh so uh.
Speaker 4: Much more importantly, perhaps a couple of our favorite historians
Speaker 4: and thinkers, Neil Ferguson it looks like Nile. It's Neil,
Speaker 4: he's a skulk, and Victor Davis Hanson taking something like
Speaker 4: opposite sides on whether this Trump tariff thing is a
Speaker 4: good idea or not. Here's the difficulty for us and
Speaker 4: everybody on this. Nobody's really quite sure if Trump is
Speaker 4: seriously going long term isolationist because he gives he certainly
Speaker 4: says he is at times, or if that's just a posturing,
Speaker 4: a posture, a bargaining position in order to truly get
Speaker 4: more reciprocal lower tariffs in place to help US exports.
Speaker 4: Now that's the goal. It's hard to argue against. Honestly,
Speaker 4: I mean and honestly, Neil Ferguson and VDH would probably
Speaker 4: agree with each other. But I'll just give you a
Speaker 4: little of their thinking. This is Neil Ferguson. Depending on
Speaker 4: your worldview, you probably think Trump's tariff blitz is one
Speaker 4: of two things. Either, a committed protectionist is trying to
Speaker 4: make America great again by killing globalism, ending forever wars,
Speaker 4: and bringing manufacturing jobs to the US. Alternatively, an unhinged
Speaker 4: demagogue is crashing both the world economy and the liberal
Speaker 4: national order, mainly to the advantage of authoritarian regimes, mostly China.
Speaker 2: Here's what is actually happening.
Speaker 4: The American Empire that came into existence after the chaos
Speaker 4: of the thirties is being broken up after eighty years.
Speaker 4: Despite Trump's imperial impulses Greenland to Canada, Panama. He's engaged
Speaker 4: right now in a kind of wild decolonization project. Like
Speaker 4: the post nineteen forty five British labor governments. He wants
Speaker 4: to shelter domestic manufacturing in the working class behind tariffs
Speaker 4: while reducing overseas commitments, but the net result will be
Speaker 4: both economically damaging and geopolitically weakening. Americans will come to
Speaker 4: miss globalism and policing the world. They will belatedly realize
Speaker 4: that there is no portal through which the US can
Speaker 4: return to the nineteen fifties, much less than nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 4: And the principal beneficiary of this project will not be
Speaker 4: Russia but China.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know about the globalism part.
Speaker 1: I do think will come to miss policing the world,
Speaker 1: which I didn't believe your.
Speaker 2: Go why briefly if you'd like. I think we just.
Speaker 1: Benefited so much from being the one that calls the shots,
Speaker 1: way more than we realize. And when we think, when
Speaker 1: we think, oh, we need to stop you know this,
Speaker 1: who's with me? And they all say, we're not really
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anybody who's ever gone from CEO to vice president of
Speaker 4: something or other and exactly actually like fifth on the
Speaker 4: flow chart will tell you that it's a hell of
Speaker 4: a lot better to be the CEO in a lot
Speaker 4: of ways.
Speaker 2: And we're the CEO of the world for a long time.
Speaker 1: Anyway, that says cool, You might be right, but we
Speaker 1: just can't afford to do it anymore.
Speaker 2: You might be right.
Speaker 4: It's certainly an argument worth discussing. Yeah, we can't, you know,
Speaker 4: run the treasury dry, although the way we slather money
Speaker 4: around on domestic stuff, that's what's killing the treasury anyway.
Speaker 4: It's a very very long piece, Neil Ferguson wrote, it's
Speaker 4: just the very like introduction touch on it. Victor Davis Hanson,
Speaker 4: on the other hand, who has in recent days been
Speaker 4: fairly critical of Trump at times when he thinks it's appropriate.
Speaker 4: VDH is very much an independent thinker. He frequently agrees
Speaker 4: with Trump. He says, what is the logic behind the
Speaker 4: Trump tariffs? Why are they incurring such infactive Why is
Speaker 4: he willing to take such political risks in a fashion
Speaker 4: that no prior Republican administration had dared?
Speaker 2: Let me explain, He.
Speaker 4: Says, the US has not run a trade surplus since
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy five, which is, to my horror, half a
Speaker 4: century ago. America is now nearing a one trillion dollar
Speaker 4: annual trade deficit with an ossified trade policy unchanged from
Speaker 4: a bygone era. This is something I brought up many times.
Speaker 4: But after World War Two, the US was the only
Speaker 4: major industrial power that emerged from the war not just
Speaker 4: intact and capable of settling its wartime deficits and debts,
Speaker 4: but also far stronger, both relatively and absolutely than when
Speaker 4: it had entered the war. In December nineteen forty one,
Speaker 4: recovering Europe and Asian needed massive inputs of goods and services.
Speaker 4: They were on their knees, right, yeah, I did, and
Speaker 4: so we went there. We let them go ahead and
Speaker 4: erect some tariffs so they could raise some money and
Speaker 4: also so they could get their industries up and running,
Speaker 4: because we would have just crushed them competitively for a
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 1: Pointing to various statistics from the early fifties right after
Speaker 1: World War Two and using those as the standard we
Speaker 1: need to get back to is just not helpful. It's
Speaker 1: it's using your honeymoon as the standard for the happiness
Speaker 1: of your relationship.
Speaker 4: Right thirty years into your marriage. Yeah, it's just wildly unrealistic.
Speaker 4: The world was decimated except for US, so, yeah, the
Speaker 4: numbers were crazy, and then quite intelligently the US. And
Speaker 4: I'm really summering summarizing once again vdh's point of view.
Speaker 4: You know, we can post the link to these you
Speaker 4: may get paywalled I love the free press. They put
Speaker 4: out a lot of great stuff. Maybe you want to subscribe.
Speaker 4: But he points out that the idea ida of helping
Speaker 4: all of these countries back on their feet so they
Speaker 4: would become thriving economies on their own and then become
Speaker 4: our customers was a very good idea, and it was
Speaker 4: very very successful, witness the rise in the standard of
Speaker 4: living of Americans over the last seventy five eighty years.
Speaker 4: But that it's, as he said, earlier policies of a
Speaker 4: bygone era you want to talk about. You can't return
Speaker 4: to nineteen fifty. Well, the tariffs of nineteen fifty or
Speaker 4: seventy or eighty shouldn't be the tariffs of today either,
Speaker 4: especially when you look at Asia they've gone from. And
Speaker 4: this is, you know, an overly broad characterization. But squatting
Speaker 4: in huts, as Jack often says in China to an
Speaker 4: economic superpower in the last fifty years.
Speaker 2: That's not very inaccurate. That's a perfectly reasonable as summary.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, subsistence farming has turned into just cities of
Speaker 4: unimaginable size and wealth. And I think it's all going
Speaker 4: to collapse before too long because comings doesn't work, and
Speaker 4: they have terrible, terrible problems. But anyway, yeah, we need
Speaker 4: a restructuring.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, and if EDH is right about
Speaker 4: all this, that's fine. If it's actually a long term
Speaker 4: isolationist policy high tariffs all the time will make everything
Speaker 4: in the US, that's never going to work.
Speaker 2: I just don't think it can work.
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Speaker 1: I do want to talk about the Minecraft movie later,
Speaker 1: which is the biggest movie of the year so far
Speaker 1: and an interesting phenomenon around it sounds really entertaining too.
Speaker 1: I was reading about it that I thought was interesting.
Speaker 1: But Jack Black's the Starvet so he was the host
Speaker 1: of Saturday Night Lived. You see the sketch of the
Speaker 1: first play.
Speaker 2: I thought that was so clever. I have none of
Speaker 2: it ever. Play You should watch that one. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the idea that people are sitting there
Speaker 1: and They don't have any idea what's going on.
Speaker 2: They don't know what a play is.
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Speaker 1: Why my name is mar No, you're not, You're Jim.
Speaker 2: You're my neighbor. Why are you acting like this? That's funny.
Speaker 1: If you've never seen a play before, you would be
Speaker 1: very confused. But I want to talk about the Minecraft movie,
Speaker 1: which my son saw, and I definitely want to do this.
Speaker 1: I think Joe's absolutely going to agree with this. What
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama is said about their marriage, clearing up some
Speaker 1: of the whispers that have been out there about the
Speaker 1: Obama marriage.
Speaker 2: She is a man, as it turns out. Oh my god, wow,
Speaker 2: I pulled him over there, folks. He didn't see that.
Speaker 2: I'm coming right to the bread basket. I've seen the
Speaker 2: videos where they slow it down and you can see, oh,
Speaker 2: stop it now, he's doing it.
Speaker 1: Okay, stay with us on the way.
Speaker 7: Betty web But, one of the last surviving World War
Speaker 7: two codebreakers, has died at the age of one hundred
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Speaker 7: added her to a group chat.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1: Got a couple of things about marriages here, which I
Speaker 1: think very interesting. First, this one, this is not good.
Speaker 1: A married Alabama high school lunch lady had been bringing
Speaker 1: a teen student home for sex. So she's forty one.
Speaker 1: She looks like every single one of these women who
Speaker 1: have sex with high school students. Why they all look
Speaker 1: exactly alike and are like above average cute? I don't know,
Speaker 1: or kind of know. I guess they're reliving their popular
Speaker 1: years or whatever well going on.
Speaker 4: And they feel their beauty and their sexual power fading anyway,
Speaker 4: so they want to exercise.
Speaker 1: Two things on this I thought were kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: One the fact that she was Nobody ever talks about
Speaker 1: the poor husband. I mean, your wife cheats on you. Brutal,
Speaker 1: absolutely brutal, no matter what.
Speaker 2: High school kid. Oh now we're in home. Now we're
Speaker 2: but at.
Speaker 1: Your own home. Oh my god, that's rough. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can survive that. By the way, they're
Speaker 1: in Alabama.
Speaker 4: First of all, honey, why do the sheet smell of
Speaker 4: axe body spray.
Speaker 1: Or or algebra? The smell of algebra she's a lunch lady.
Speaker 1: There's two things here. There's two mitigating things here. One
Speaker 1: she's not she's a lunch lady, not a feature. And
Speaker 1: two the kid is thought to be a junior age
Speaker 1: of consent in Alabama's sixteen so she may not have
Speaker 1: broken any law. And she's the lunchuity. So does she
Speaker 1: have to go?
Speaker 4: You can't use schools as like sex hookups for anybody
Speaker 4: in any circumstance if it's a students.
Speaker 2: And all she's doing is putting out the schlop on the.
Speaker 4: Tradition out more than schlop dishing out love. Anyway, Ah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I just know you can't. You can't run it as
Speaker 4: your own personal law hook up.
Speaker 1: And then there so there's been a lot of talk
Speaker 1: about the Obama's marriage for some reason, I guess because
Speaker 1: she didn't go to the funeral. Barack went alone and
Speaker 1: there was like some other thing that.
Speaker 2: The Carter funeral.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some other thing that they didn't show up
Speaker 1: together at.
Speaker 2: And then people like auguration, right inauguration.
Speaker 1: That's it, and and then the pictures of him with
Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston. I don't know, but anyway, she said this,
Speaker 1: she's got a podcast. Michelle Obama has a podcast, and
Speaker 1: Barack Obama actually said this himself. He said, let me
Speaker 1: just say this about marriage. It sure helps to be
Speaker 1: out of the White House and have a little more
Speaker 1: time with her. He said, she has been very forgiving
Speaker 1: for those years where I was in the White House
Speaker 1: and I was so you know, occupied, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: is true.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: She revealed in her podcast that there was a period
Speaker 1: of time where she couldn't stand her husband. She said,
Speaker 1: for a solid decade when their daughters were young, were little.
Speaker 1: It was very difficult. And then she talked about how
Speaker 1: marriage is never fifty to fifty. There were times when
Speaker 1: it was like seventy thirty him and then sixty forty meters.
Speaker 2: Anyway, the only reason I was going to bring it
Speaker 2: up is.
Speaker 1: Like everybody I know, all my old friends have been
Speaker 1: married forever, but they they all, they all point to
Speaker 1: difficult times, like long periods of difficult times they went
Speaker 1: through in their marriages and they're still together. And I
Speaker 1: just wish more people knew that the people that you
Speaker 1: hit it mad time clearly got to blow it up.
Speaker 2: Clearly got to blow it up. We don't. It just
Speaker 2: doesn't work.
Speaker 4: As opposed to it'll come back and just you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's absolutely true. I'd love to see more more Hallmark
Speaker 4: movies about that.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what they should do.
Speaker 1: There should be more rom coms where you go through
Speaker 1: a patch often when it is raising the kids, where
Speaker 1: it's difficult and you know, there's no spark and everything
Speaker 1: like that, and it seems like drudgery in a job,
Speaker 1: and then it comes back.
Speaker 4: That's what all the work and none of the fun
Speaker 4: stuff for a while. That's what the Hallmark movies should
Speaker 4: be about. That's a good one right there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I would definitely say hang in there. I have many
Speaker 4: more thoughts on the topic, but we're up against a
Speaker 4: heard break. She should get back to that. It might
Speaker 4: be the most important topic of the day. Or we
Speaker 4: can talk about tariffs. Tariffs is much more important. Trade
Speaker 4: war jumps trade war.
Speaker 1: Imagine when the kids were young and your husband's president
Speaker 1: of the United States.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty one sided affair. I'm guessing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: please your roommates at best.
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Speaker 1: So that is Mike Myers doing his Elon musk there
Speaker 1: with the first self vandalizing car, the test movie. Why
Speaker 1: why would you need that? Well, here we have some
Speaker 1: I haven't watched this video. Yeah, which one is?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 2: Is this? Eighty eight eight one h Yeah?
Speaker 4: This is a young gentleman in a suit with a uh.
Speaker 4: He's got a guy with a camera and he's asking
Speaker 4: people at some of the anti Tesla, anti Elon protests
Speaker 4: around the country, what are you actually protesting against? And
Speaker 4: somebody gets the idea, by golly, he might be critical
Speaker 4: of us, And this is how it sounded.
Speaker 2: He's anti Trump and anti Elon. Must protesters seeing what
Speaker 2: they're protesting.
Speaker 1: For protest procedure, don't film in this consent of anyone's faces.
Speaker 2: And we'd ask if you are on public property, though,
Speaker 2: so we can film. Easy, dude, you don't have our
Speaker 2: consent to do this. Don't touch me. Don't touch me.
Speaker 2: Who don't touch me? I didn't touch you for.
Speaker 6: Do you touch me?
Speaker 2: Don't touch me?
Speaker 9: Almost easy?
Speaker 10: No, don't all those around get up man, look at.
Speaker 2: Look at him, Look at him, Look at him. The
Speaker 2: microphon the freak out. Uh.
Speaker 4: That's fairly heavily edited, and we will post the video
Speaker 4: at armstrong and getdy dot com under hot links if
Speaker 4: it's not there already.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: The people he's dealing with are completely unhinged.
Speaker 2: Clearly what's elbows? What's that means? I don't know.
Speaker 4: They like put their elbows up as opposed to their
Speaker 4: arms or hands or something. But they're all acting like
Speaker 4: enraged children, utterly irrational.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they sound completely crazy. How do they not know
Speaker 1: they sound crazy? Fashions hair, You people are nuts, You're
Speaker 1: absolutely nuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's actually kind of disturbing in the same way that
Speaker 4: you watch a group of rioters running rampage and beating
Speaker 4: people down or whatever, because you know, there's no reasoning
Speaker 4: with these people whatsoever. There's no talking them down, there's
Speaker 4: no explaining. Look, I one hundred percent respect your right
Speaker 4: to do this.
Speaker 1: But I know, but like during the George Floyd riots,
Speaker 1: I at least understood what they were angry about. I
Speaker 1: think it was misconstrued that, you know, there is a
Speaker 1: haunt of young black men going on by police across
Speaker 1: America and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'm just twisted by Marxists. But you watch that.
Speaker 2: That video was horrifying to watch it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can understand how you get a strong
Speaker 1: emotional reaction out of that. I don't understand your strong
Speaker 1: emotional reaction about Elon in doge In hating Tesla's That
Speaker 1: makes no sense to me whatsoever.
Speaker 2: No, it's bizarre.
Speaker 1: And then we got another interview with somebody talking about
Speaker 1: being at one of the protests.
Speaker 4: This woman is an immigrant, has lived in the US
Speaker 4: for a long time.
Speaker 6: Can they be at least fifty percent of them are
Speaker 6: using airbnb? Is an Airbnb part of a dodge too?
Speaker 6: This is the most stupid group of.
Speaker 2: People I've ever seen.
Speaker 6: What Elon Musk is doing for this country is saving it,
Speaker 6: saving it so people can have social security ten years
Speaker 6: from now.
Speaker 2: Man, where are you from?
Speaker 6: I'm originally from Israel and my husband is from England.
Speaker 6: The immigrated to this wonderful country forty years ago, and
Speaker 6: we are proud American and these people are stupid.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Oh my god, that is really really good. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I don't care where you're from. It's difficult to look
Speaker 1: at the TESTO protests in particular and understand what the
Speaker 1: hell they're talking about. Can you please one again, just
Speaker 1: because I want to hear a little bit of the
Speaker 1: the sound of their voice again.
Speaker 10: Anti Trump and anti Elon must protesters seeing what they're
Speaker 10: protesting for.
Speaker 1: Protest the sdure don't film in this consent of anyone's faces,
Speaker 1: and we'd ask if.
Speaker 2: You were on public property though, so we can film. Easy, dude,
Speaker 2: you'll have our consent to do this. Don't touch me,
Speaker 2: don't touch me? WHOA, don't touch right there? Don't touch you?
Speaker 2: Do you touch me? Don't touch me? Easy?
Speaker 9: Almost easy, elbows around, get up the property man.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's enough of that. So I should have watched
Speaker 2: the video. You send it to us over the weekend, Katie.
Speaker 2: But wow, what does he look like?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 9: The guy who's going don't jush y, don't right, he's.
Speaker 5: Wearing a construction vest and a mask, and part of
Speaker 5: that video this the guy with the suit and the
Speaker 5: microphone who's trying to ask these people what they're protesting about,
Speaker 5: actually runs away from them about fifty yards and they
Speaker 5: chase him down and surround him, and it's just absolute chaos,
Speaker 5: and nobody would even allow him the opportunity to ask
Speaker 5: him why they were there.
Speaker 2: Well, all right, and to me, so they're angry.
Speaker 1: They got to be angry that he's on the other
Speaker 1: side of the issue, because if you're proud of what
Speaker 1: you're doing, and I assume you are, you're in a
Speaker 1: public place trying to attack tesselas or whatever, I would
Speaker 1: assume that you want coverage for this. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: been announcing it nationwide on a regular basis.
Speaker 5: I'm going to put the whole video up at Katie's corner.
Speaker 5: But one of the things that they did accuse him
Speaker 5: of being during this video was he was the agitator.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I just don't get why if I'm part
Speaker 1: of a protest, I want as many that's the whole
Speaker 1: protest thing. You want as many cameras there as possible
Speaker 1: because you believe you're on the right side of the issue.
Speaker 2: You're trying to convince other people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very frantic, very adolescent, very very strange vibe going
Speaker 4: on there.
Speaker 2: Like I said before, disturbing.
Speaker 1: So when they started chasing the guy, that's it's not
Speaker 1: it's that's a you hate this guy because he's on
Speaker 1: the other side of the issue. I think that's what
Speaker 1: that is. Boy, God, dang, they sound crazy. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they realize how crazy they sound.
Speaker 2: Okay, we got more in the way, stay here for
Speaker 2: hour four.
Speaker 1: On the same day, the NCAA will crown amen's basketball
Speaker 1: champion tonight. A judge in California is expected to make
Speaker 1: a ruling which will lead to fundamental changes now how
Speaker 1: college athletes are paid, which could even more disrupt the
Speaker 1: whole college athlete thing again again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, crazy. So I don't know if you heard this.
Speaker 4: At the end of last week, the Trump administration escalated
Speaker 4: campaign against American universities. That's a hell of way to
Speaker 4: put it, progressive journalist, his campaign against universities, Yeah, trying
Speaker 4: to stop them being utterly infected Marxists.
Speaker 2: This is a doctrination factory.
Speaker 1: I'm getting off track, but this is another example of
Speaker 1: them being on the wrong side of an issue most
Speaker 1: of America. Look at the polling, has no what's the
Speaker 1: word confidence.
Speaker 2: In universities anymore. You're on the wrong side of it.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: That's how insulated and crazy the tiny percentage of Americans
Speaker 4: who make up the mainstream media are. They just have
Speaker 4: a bizarre view of this country, unrecognizable for the rest
Speaker 4: of us. But anyway, later on the article, it's a
Speaker 4: bit more fair, just because they had to report at
Speaker 4: least some facts. The administration is freezing National Institutes of
Speaker 4: Health grants to Brown and Harvard, and they've made specific
Speaker 4: demands nine actions that quote we regard as necessary for
Speaker 4: Harvard University's continued financial relationship with the United States government.
Speaker 4: Most of the demands concerned how the university operates, comprehensive
Speaker 4: mask ban, changes to governance, leadership, and admissions, and end
Speaker 4: to DEI program demanding necessary changes we made quote to
Speaker 4: address bias, improve viewpoint diversity, and end ideological capture, which
Speaker 4: feeled anti submitic harassment. According to the letter to the university,
Speaker 4: all of those ideas were absolutely you know, pillars of
Speaker 4: liberal America for a very very long time. But progressive
Speaker 4: America is illiberal. They are totalitarians. They want everybody to
Speaker 4: conform to their way of thinking. And I love the
Speaker 4: fact that we're at least trying to clean out Marxist
Speaker 4: in doctrination factories. They're really anti American in doctrination factories
Speaker 4: are universities. And on that topic, former Columbia University president
Speaker 4: Katrina Armstrong, who just retired, was she sat for a
Speaker 4: deposition at the Department of Health and Human Services in
Speaker 4: connection with the Trump administration civil rights investigation into Columbia.
Speaker 4: So she quit, but she doesn't escape civil rights, you know,
Speaker 4: law investigations because all the flaming anti Semitism. And here's
Speaker 4: where it gets unintentionally funny. Former Columbia University President Katrine Armstrong.
Speaker 4: Armstrong told the federal government on Tuesday she could not
Speaker 4: recall students calling for the destruction of the state of Israel,
Speaker 4: nor could she recall hearing of allegations that students spit
Speaker 4: on their Jewish counterparts. She didn't recall that a member
Speaker 4: of the faculty had in class described Jewish donors to
Speaker 4: Columbia as quote, wealthy white capitalists to laundered blood money.
Speaker 2: In fact, Armstrong didn't seem to.
Speaker 4: Remember much of anything about her seven month ten years
Speaker 4: interim president of the embattled Ivy League school, The Washington
Speaker 4: Freebacon obtained a transcript of the deposition. So what about
Speaker 4: student activists agitating to end Israel?
Speaker 2: Sitting here?
Speaker 4: I have, you know, no specific memory of hearing that,
Speaker 4: but I recognize the concern about that and understand that
Speaker 4: she said stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 4: Over the course of the interview, the government pressed Armstrong
Speaker 4: about her familiarity with the university's own task force on
Speaker 4: anti Semitism and whether the school had made changes pursuant
Speaker 4: to its recommendations and funding questions and that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: And she just said, over and over and over again,
Speaker 4: I have no specific recollection of that, let's see, Armstrong.
Speaker 4: Whereas when the lawyer gets her, at one point, Keviney Keviny,
Speaker 4: the the attorney for the government, said, I don't understand
Speaker 4: how you could read that in this report and not
Speaker 4: remember hearing an allegation about that a student had spit
Speaker 4: on a Jewish student.
Speaker 2: Well, you couldn't, That is the thing.
Speaker 4: She's lying, well exactly, And Keviny asked Armstrong whether she
Speaker 4: called any of the quote specific horrible things you heard
Speaker 4: from Jewish students she could not, though, she said, quote,
Speaker 4: the most hurtful things I heard were about friends no
Speaker 4: longer being friends.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to understand, said the government lawyer.
Speaker 4: How you have such a terrible memory of specific incidents
Speaker 4: of anti semitism when you're clearly an intelligent doctor.
Speaker 2: Can you explain that to me? How do you not.
Speaker 4: Remember all these horrific specific things that happened on your campus.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just don't recall them. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, the oh, oh, there's one more.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, one more.
Speaker 4: Asked in the deposition, what she told faculty members in
Speaker 4: the big meeting about the school's policies and there would
Speaker 4: be no changes in the mass policies.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Armstrong said she quote did not have precise recollections of
Speaker 4: what she had said in that meeting or other meetings
Speaker 4: related in the following days. You're aware there's a transcript
Speaker 4: to that meeting, the lawyer asked her.
Speaker 2: I have understood that.
Speaker 1: She said, everybody, everybody who may be in a position
Speaker 1: where they need to lie someday, should learn from from
Speaker 1: politicians and others that making up something not true you
Speaker 1: can really get busted on saying you don't remember, not much.
Speaker 4: Anybody can do no, no, unless you lay it on
Speaker 4: too thick like this chick did, and somebody might hold
Speaker 4: you in contempt to something. But as you say, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: I got a terrible memory. It sounds kind of familiar
Speaker 4: but not really. Yeah, what can they do?
Speaker 2: Yes, you do remember, it's hard to bust you on. Remember.
Speaker 1: The fall of prestige of the whole university thing nationwide,
Speaker 1: in particular elite universities is something I have enjoyed so much,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to it continuing for many years
Speaker 1: to come. Elon Musk over the weekend, who broke with
Speaker 1: Trump over the whole tariff thing, included because Trump's got
Speaker 1: was quoting one of his pH Harvard PhD economists who's
Speaker 1: claiming this is a good idea, which again it might be,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Elon Musk tweeted out a PhD
Speaker 1: in econ from Harvard is a bad thing, not a
Speaker 1: good thing.
Speaker 2: So that sort of view, which.
Speaker 1: I think is kind of catching on.
Speaker 4: That's the populist view, interestingly enough, and Trump is on
Speaker 4: the other side of it, citing a Harvard PhD. That's
Speaker 4: kind of funny. Yeah, it's very hard for us to
Speaker 4: figure out whether this is a good idea or not
Speaker 4: because nobody's sure what Trump's actually trying to do. Whether
Speaker 4: it's actually just get tariffs lowered so the reciprocal tariffs
Speaker 4: are reciprocal, or if you're actually trying to restructure world
Speaker 4: trade for the next hundred years.
Speaker 2: So I haven't checked in with my daily up to
Speaker 2: the moment.
Speaker 6: Thing.
Speaker 1: WHOA, the Dow is currently down less than a point.
Speaker 1: That is something.
Speaker 2: The market has found a firm bottom.
Speaker 1: So the headlines that come out of today are going
Speaker 1: to be interesting depending on when where the market's closed,
Speaker 1: because they started in bad shape and your cable news
Speaker 1: channels were making a really big deal.
Speaker 2: Out of it.
Speaker 1: That was down almost two thousand points to start the day,
Speaker 1: and if that was going to be day three of
Speaker 1: those kind of drops, oh that was going to be
Speaker 1: the only story in America. Somehow, for some reason, it
Speaker 1: turned around a lot. And like Jim Kramer said on
Speaker 1: CNBC Today, look, the market was too hot, it was
Speaker 1: a bubble. As everybody knew, it needed to correct. It's corrected,
Speaker 1: and here's the bottom. Maybe it's that, or maybe, as
Speaker 1: Joe said earlier, maybe the Trump people said something to
Speaker 1: somebody that calmed them down.
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 4: You had a heck of a series of headlines in
Speaker 4: the Wall Street Journal where is it.
Speaker 2: Not facts?
Speaker 4: But oh here it is Wall Street starts to speak
Speaker 4: out against Trump's tariffs. You had a couple of like
Speaker 4: super giant eight hundred pound gorilla guys whose names you
Speaker 4: might or might not know, who came out vocally for
Speaker 4: the first time against the tariffs. And Jamie Diamond, the
Speaker 4: legendary banker as well, and probably all of Trump's friends
Speaker 4: and half the members of the mar A Lago have
Speaker 4: spoken out.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. For sure.
Speaker 1: Well, it's wildly going up and down today and we'll
Speaker 1: see where it closes, what the news is.
Speaker 2: And again, you know, unless.
Speaker 1: You're pulling all your money out of your four to
Speaker 1: one k Thursday or today, how much difference it makes
Speaker 1: to you?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had my wife return the lobster to the
Speaker 4: grocery store and get some shrimp, and I had to
Speaker 4: return the shrimp and get some crawdads, and then I
Speaker 4: had to return the crawdads and just buy some baitfish
Speaker 4: and go down to the pond to see what she
Speaker 4: could catch.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's quite a change in in your lifestyle
Speaker 1: in a very short amount of time, is what you're saying,
Speaker 1: Trump's trade war. You went from lobster to go into
Speaker 1: the creek and fishing, hoping to catch something, hoping to
Speaker 1: catch a.
Speaker 2: Little bluegill or a car for something.
Speaker 4: I don't know, some sort of fish, if we're lucky,
Speaker 4: some sort of panfish that can get you through the day.
Speaker 2: Right, it's not easy. How long have I got Michael
Speaker 2: trying to decide what the launch and I don't know.
Speaker 2: You don't look good. We got a minute twenty.
Speaker 1: It reminds me my son said his stomach hurt last night.
Speaker 1: And he said, it's not that I'm sick kind of
Speaker 1: stomach hurt. It's like that I ate something. Stomach hurt.
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, well let's go through it. You
Speaker 1: ate and he listed a couple of things, and he said,
Speaker 1: and I had some red vines, you know, the licorice.
Speaker 2: How many red vines do you have? Probably twenty? I said.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not a doctor. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: a doctor. But I think we've stumbled upon it. I
Speaker 1: think the twenty red vines are why your stomach hurts.
Speaker 4: If I ate twenty red vines, they would return to
Speaker 4: the surface in short order.
Speaker 2: If you and what are the chemicals in those?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Hey, RFK Junior? Is there anything approaching not poison in
Speaker 2: a red vine? Red dye one through thirty?
Speaker 1: What isn't it? Something like that? He bought a three
Speaker 1: and a half pound jug at the grocer's or like
Speaker 1: a big container. Anyway, we've got good stuff an hour four.
Speaker 1: THERENA could be a big change to college athletics. That
Speaker 1: makes it even harder to figure out how it's gonna
Speaker 1: survive on the day of the NCAA final.
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