WEBVTT - MLB: Leading Off July 27th, 2023 (Ep. 718) 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.160 Welcome in everybody in Fantasy forroz MLB. This is Leading 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.080 Off Live, brought to you by Prize Pig. Sign up 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.440 for Prize Picks today and use that promo code leading Off. 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.439 When you do. It's me Joey p joe Piezipia, That 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:18.439 of course is the Welsh and it's you the Peanuts, 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:21.680 the Cracker Jackson a Thursday and the trade wins they 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.119 were blowing, Welsh. Why just yesterday I was out there 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.160 just mind my own business. Next thing, you know, all 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.440 the trade winds start blowing, players start moving from one 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.600 team to another team. Things are getting a little crazy 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.559 Major League Baseball and Welsh, I know you love to 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.200 hear this because you probably never hear it at home. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:46.000 But you were right. You were right one more time, Welsh, 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:53.479 you were right. The Angels are wrong because they're not 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.960 trading Shotani and when they fall two games short of 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:03.240 the wildcard and Shohiltani leaves and they get a draft pick, 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.960 and they have emptied out some stores of other prospects 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.160 that they already have that are still not really super 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.280 villa to me. You will talk about the prospects that moved. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.160 We'll talk about the Giolito trade all these things. You 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.720 think that the Angels haven't seen the playoffs the last 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.040 ten years, and that's suppressing. You ain't seen nothing yet, 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.440 because this was their chance to cash in get the 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.440 Hall of the Century for a player that nobody. I mean, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.839 you could have gotten the Hall of a century. Now again, 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:35.600 maybe I'm wrong, Maybe the the will wasn't out there 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.440 for teams to really push in to get Hotani. I 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.880 find that hard to believe. But Welsh basking your own rightness? 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:42.679 How does it feel? 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.600 Yeah, well, I'm just you know, I never thought they 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.880 would trade him, simply because of them being the organization 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:53.480 that traded maybe the greatest player of our generation. I 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.200 think it He's almost an impossible task. I kind of 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.760 think the Sodo stuff last year was really really tough, 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.080 and I don't know if the teams that made the 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:06.480 most sense were the teams that were offering the stuff 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:07.840 that needed to be you know how we saw all 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.560 these rumors of like the Diamondbacks are gonna make the 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.400 trade and the Orioles like, I don't like he wanted 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.160 to go there. I think they wanted to be respectful 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.639 to that, and I just don't know if the huge 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.000 trade patch because I think this trade was going to 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.120 be held up against SODA's. The problem with Soto had 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.760 so much more time. This is a pure rental, and 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.280 if they were going to make the move, it would 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.200 have needed to be a huge haul, like you said, 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.079 and it might not just have existed. But at the 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:34.680 end of the day, I just don't think they were 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.520 really entertaining it. Maybe they got some good news about 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.239 Mike Trout that we don't quite know about that he'll 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.359 be back sooner they get a piece in. You know, 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.480 it's hilarious too. I'm gonna watch for I'm gonna watch 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.359 because they can't be done. If they're gonna do it, 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:49.640 I will tell you this, more embarrassing will be if 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.480 this is it. If they're doing this and they stop, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:54.919 that's embarrassing. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:57.360 Stocks wasn't that The big deal? 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.120 Was that? And Winter Escobar? That was one. But you 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:01.680 know what, I feel like they need to go get 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.079 a bat. I feel like they're trying to buy two 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.800 pieces that will replace Otani next year. So like, well, 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.239 if we have Giolito and then we get blah blah blah, 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.320 this could actually be the re signed pieces we have 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.800 for Losingtan, for losing Otani, but it's just like Giolito 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.079 doesn't do it. I'm not shocked about it. Anything can 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.320 happen with Atani, and we just got the answer sooner 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.200 than we thought. We got it about a week earlier 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:27.679 than we thought, so we don't have to worry about 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.880 it. It kind of changes the market a little bit, and 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.040 I fully believe that there's got to be another trade 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.800 or two coming for this team. Or it just looks even. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.760 It looks sillier than the mustakas and the Porto stuff. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:44.040 I picture the ending to this Otani saga very similar 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.520 to the end of Dead Poets Society, old classic movie 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.080 with Robin Williams. Great. We haven't seen it. Run to 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.480 the streaming services, go watch it. But I think they 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:57.400 should let all of the Angels fans when he does 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.480 leave a free agency. I think they should let them 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.520 all in to the ballpark and they should all stand 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:09.760 on top of the chairs and they should say Otani, Mayotani, Yes, Otani, Mayotani, 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.120 and then everyone should cry. And maybe you get Ethan 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:13.720 Hawk in there too. Just let him do it one 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.200 more time. See if you know Robert Charon Letary's character 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:18.960 didn't make it through so I can't really have him, 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.280 but you know, well, why not, Josh Charles, Let's get 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.240 him all. Let's have him all go up there Otani 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:27.640 Mayotani and send him off properly. Let me, let's talk 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.240 about this Gelio trade because I don't get I know 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.640 it's a rental, but geez, if I'm a White Sox fan, 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.279 I'm not happy with this. Hall So Lucas and Rainaldo Lopez, 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.599 they get back Edgar Caro and left handed pitcher Kai Busch, 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.719 twenty nine year old impending free agent. That's what Jilito was. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.640 So it is a rental. So I get that three 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.119 seven nine, one two to two whip a one thirty 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.479 one k to forty two strikeout walk ratio at one 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.720 hundred and twenty one innings twenty one starts. He's been 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.600 very good. This gives them a legitimate number two with Otani, 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.640 So that is taking care of Now, you're right, they 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.279 still lack bats. Caro is considered one of the better 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.800 prospects in the system. Nine to sixty five ohps, seventeen homers, 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.000 one hundred and eleven games at single A. So he's 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:12.479 still ways away. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.320 Well, no, no, he's in Double A now. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.960 Double A, but he's he's got seven to seventeen ops 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:17.440 in double A. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.240 Yeah, and that's why so I made a tweet about 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.279 it last night, like the Edgar Quero stuff or Carol 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.760 is is kind of interesting that people an't giving him 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.840 the credit and they're looking at what he's doing in 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.880 double A and being like, oh, here's the struggles, and 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.640 it's like, okay, well, I thin guy's twenty years old. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.840 They did the massive push thing that this organization does. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.640 There's a guy that would more typically be in like 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.280 a high A at best and playing a full season here. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.680 He did that last year. He has more walks than strikeouts. 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:48.000 This year he struggled statistically, but he just made was 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.080 in the futures game. So three homers, like under two 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.360 to fifty batting average doesn't look good, but he's got 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.640 like almost a three ninety OVP, like I said, more 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.200 walks and strikeouts, has incredible plate presence, and that organization 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:03.880 doesn't have a like stud rookie prospect catcher. So in 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.919 my eyes, there was a rumor that went out the 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.719 Diamondbacks were really interested in Gilido and the White Sox 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.440 wanted Brandon fought But the thing also came out saying 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.360 they might be willing to move off of that. So 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.400 I don't think a Brandon fought was out there. I 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.480 don't think there was anything remotely club, but I think 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:20.120 there's anything. 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.159 I mean, how often you the Diamondbacks? Are you in 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.840 it and they're in it? They're in it? Well, they're 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.680 in it. I say, you go, you make that move. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.160 Straw made a really good move. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:33.440 What if we got Hendrix, Liam Hendrix and you could 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.000 I mean, I wouldn't have like a deal you make. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.000 I wouldn't have cried about it. I wouldn't cried about 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.080 it or anything. But like Brandon thought, Brett Stram moving 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:45.200 him over to the first base side of the rubber 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.599 I really helped. It really helped in that early start. 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.880 But my point is is, like I don't think there 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:51.880 was anything else out there that they could have got 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.680 like this. Ky Bush looks like he's a potential rotational 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.720 piece in the future. Left hander, he's in Double A, 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.520 he's closer to the Major's got a good slider fastball, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.160 and been injured a bunch and had poor results this year. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.080 But like if I was a White Sox fan, I 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.280 would be happy a two month rental to get a 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.760 top one hundred prospect who can be a core piece 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.559 in the organization. In Quero and ky Bush is a bet. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.480 I think it's the best that they could possibly do. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.720 It's way better than it looks. And Gilido goes to 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.400 I don't know, a decent spot. I saw someone in 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:21.600 the chat be like, I wish you went to the 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.240 other LA team. Yeah, I once she went to the Diamondbacks. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.520 Dodgers would have been better. But this is still a 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.120 much better place. And hopefully they can fix the walk. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.600 So hopefully some of the o Tani stuff can rub 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:32.640 off and he can stop walking. 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.720 Dudes. People are speculating because I shave that a trade 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.720 to the Yankees for Joe Hayo Tommy is imminent. Woo. 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.360 Yeah, you do look clean, Joe. And there's there's a 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:45.960 You're in New York, I am? 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.920 I mean myself and Dalvin Cooker in New York. Actually, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.119 I'm visiting New York on Saturday. I have lunch planned 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.640 with my TV producer. We're gonna go grab some lunch together. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.040 So you never know. Things can be happening. We do 0:07:59.160 --> 0:07:59.480 have a. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.240 Fit, we do. We do have there's an official move 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.440 that is ready to be announced on tomorrow's show, though 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.440 for the leading off futures that. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.520 We oh, no, that's scared. I don't even know what 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.160 you're talking about. So I'm already you know, I don't 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:15.720 know if I do, I don't know. I don't know 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.800 what's going on here. Speaking of underwhelming things, I'm at 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.080 Rosario and his six seventy five ops are going to 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.160 go from the Guardians to the Dodgers. So they continue 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.720 to add these middle infielders slash, you know, guys that 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.600 can kind of play everywhere, which makes sense. I mean, 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.319 if you're the Dodgers, you want flexibility in the lineup. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.160 You've got some age on that team. I think you 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.040 want to make sure that you're covering your bases. Guys 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.360 who can play multiple positions or the playoffs are going 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.320 to be certainly helpful too. So Rosario, despite all of 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.720 his shortcomings this year, he moves over. They just acquired 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.480 Kiki Hernandez that he before reacquired him. I should say 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.240 they got back Noah Cinder Guard And finally this has happened. 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.880 My cousin has one of the best Fantasy Baseball names 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.760 ever for her team. It's the Cinder Guardians of the Galaxy, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:02.320 and finally it's come to fruition. So I think that's 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.080 kind of cool. Like this actor I had texted her 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.640 immediately when I saw It's like, oh my god, art 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.480 imitating life or life imitating art. I don't know one 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.040 of those two things. I won't welsh as in the 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:12.560 hell out of it. But look, I don't know what 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.959 you make out of this Welsh. Syndergarden is seven era 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:19.680 am on Resarre Cindergard's era is higher than on Mario's 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.160 ops if you just take the little decipol points away. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.240 I thought that was amusing. What are your thoughts on 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:24.880 this trade? 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.800 What a dumb ass trade? What a stupid trade? What 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.080 a dumb trade? This was I saw it. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.200 I guess they're just looking for warm bodies right in 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:34.600 the rotation, that's what they're doing. 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.240 No, they're they're gonna if he is not designated for 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.040 assignment in the next couple, I'll be shocked. They're both 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.800 expiring contracts, so I guess there's that. I'm Edizario is 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.880 so clearly the better player here. Syndergard is a shell 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.960 of whatever the hell we think he is. I don't 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:53.760 know what he I don't know what they're doing. It 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.199 doesn't if they got money, okay, you know it's a 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.000 cheap team. If they got some money that came in 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.439 for this trade, for taking this on. But Cindergard I 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.679 think costs more. So this was stupid and this was 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.960 just like the rich getting rich or like why why 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.840 they keep getting away with these like moves every trade 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:13.680 the Dodgers do. People are like, you can take. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.800 All this, have vetoed it that what happens, Well, it's. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.000 Not, yeah, David Sterning, but it's not that bad. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.400 But it was pretty bad. I mean I get it. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.120 I think they're just trying to add another body to 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:25.679 the rotation. If one of. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:30.000 These players was designated for assignment, that would not shock you. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:31.680 In this trade, who would have been. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.520 Uh, I mean Cindegard would have been first on my list. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.160 Of course, of course in the whole league, in the 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.520 whole league of players starting. If I was like, I'm 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.160 gonna give you three players you could pick that are 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.160 gonna be designated for assignment, no Cinderguard would be at 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.800 the top of that list. I don't understand it at all. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.400 And then they just get more pieces. I will tell you, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:54.120 we can wave goodbye to Miguel Vargas in any potential 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:58.640 whatever this year, because with Key Hernandez and Amitersario coming in, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.560 there's no room for him, so there'll be nothing for 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:02.480 him the rest of. 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.000 The year, all right, there was no room for joy. Yesterday, 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.400 Suspencer Strider took a tough no decision. He did strike 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:09.920 out ten guys, so I got that part. But I 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:11.559 didn't get my skinny parlay and I didn't get my 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.000 big that parlay either. I'm pissed about that because the 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.920 stupid Texas Rangers ruined that. Everything got ruined yesterday, Welsh. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.599 I'm not happy, awful gamble, everything was. I got to 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.560 nail in my tire yesterday too. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:23.680 Everything's stupid here. 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:24.160 Yeah. 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.600 I was driving to Pure Sports Complex to see some 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.480 of the rookies out here, Jacob Gonzalez who just got 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.839 draped by the White Sox. I pull up, I get 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.400 a thing. I gotta nail in my tire. Why do 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:35.400 you get a nail in How do you get a 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:36.200 nail in your tire. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.360 Without somebody to get the get it plugged, or you 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:39.199 get it replaced. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.160 You I haven't done anything yet. I luckily was able 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:42.760 to get home because it was late at night. It 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.560 was late at night, so when we're just sitting now 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.040 in the driveways, that was hopefully the tires up. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.960 Yeah, well you gotta put a doughnut on there or something. 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.959 You gotta do something, don't. You got the triple A. 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.120 They come out for you. We got the trip, you 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.360 got the triple A. Of course, live in the last 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.160 Carlos ro Don also living that lie improvement, going in 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:03.920 the right direction. I guess you could say I watched 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.559 a part of this game before the women's soccer game 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.320 at nine o'clock. I was, I was. I'm drawn to 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.160 the women's soccer. I like the women's soccer games. I 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:13.920 did a video for it. Em betting pros now. I 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.680 feel like personally infested. Disappointing outcome with the tie. But 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.000 I watched Carlos Rodan pitch relatively well, one run, five 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.319 and two thirds, so him getting in the right direction 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.240 is good. There's rumors that Aaron Judge, the first thing 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.640 really talk about too, might be returning Friday. That's the 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.600 buzz going around the New York area. We'll see if 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.560 that's correct. Other injury news, Evaldi's going to start for 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.839 the Rangers against the Padres on Sunday, A story of 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:41.560 Raweez will begin his minor league rehab assignment Friday. That's 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.840 tomorrow with Triple A Las Vegas. Mason Miller through a 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.079 twenty pitch bullpen session Wednesday. So far so good. Fingers crossed, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.760 we'll see and Juan Soto, who wasn't playing, came in 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.440 the game, got a pinch walk. SODA's going to undergo 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.720 an MRI for the middle finger today, So bun nice 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.200 middlefing Was it the middle thing? Oh? Yeah, it was 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.800 his middle finger, which basically gives the middle finger to 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.560 the rest of his season, because I'm telling you right 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.800 now there's a good chance he goes on the IL. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.680 I think this is the death now of the Padres. Unfortunately, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.560 if that happens like for two weeks, if you're missing 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.200 him or there's some serious surgery kind of thing, I 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:15.959 don't know. Welsh, it doesn't sound good to me. Your 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.480 thoughts on one SODA's middle finger. 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:21.960 I think we've all had some thoughts with middle fingers 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.760 and Soto for some of the year as we've been 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.680 going through. Yeah, it's not good. I mean you got 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.920 to think about like potential powers apping. You've got to 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.880 think about overall just contact. So I worry about that 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.400 and I think whether it's soda or not, whether this 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.600 is going to push the you know, the ball over 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.680 the line. Snell and Hater have been guys that have 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.240 been rumored to be moved, and the rumors have been 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:44.840 like they would move one or both of them at 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:45.280 the deadline. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.600 The huge win for somebody. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.400 The podcasts actually might hold the cards, right because you 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.000 know the other thing I didn't even mention, but it's 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:52.600 implied he. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.200 Think about that is not only. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.959 Is not only did the Gilito trade like show us 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.520 that Otani is off the market, but he was the piece. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.640 I think we said it on here, He's the piece 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.680 I think that sets the market. What does that rental 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.520 stud look like compared to what multi year players would 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.680 look like? He is going to start. I believe the 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.320 flood market of these moves. So what does a Snell 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.600 bring back more than Gilie. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:25.720 He's walking the ballpark? Not much, But you're right, You're 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.720 absolutely right. The Snell Hater combination, that would be a 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.280 big haul for somebody to get a starting a left 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.280 tennis starting pitcher and a closer. I think it's also 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.600 the time too, just our having that conversation too about 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.760 who is up next? Like if Bednar gets traded, are 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.880 they going to Holderman? Are they going somewhere else? Like 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.960 who's up next? For the Pirates we already talked about 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.200 if Seawall gets traded potentially that Munyos is clearly going 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:47.880 to be that guy. Is there any nobody else too? 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.280 Like if Hater gets dealt, who steps into that role? 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.640 In your opinion for the Padre because I think that's 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.320 what everybody should be doing this weekend is getting ahead 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.160 on the waiver wire. So are there some closer situations 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.680 in your opinion that could help where people can get 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.760 ahead of that waiver wire dealing and maybe help themselves out. 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.720 You know what, maybe some bad teams, but still, you know, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.320 doesn't saves the rest of the year in season long 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.400 rod or head to head rodo that makes a difference. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.280 It's a huge thing. Yeah, you know, the Pirates one 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.800 is really tough. I'm like looking obviously Holderman is said 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.520 is like their eighth Zinski. Maybe one of those guys 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.080 I don't see, like a lockdown player who could get it. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:22.600 I guess you would just go with the setup guy 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.600 and Holderman. If you were to go back over to 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.960 San Diego, Robert Swarez probably gets that gig and he 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.320 probably gets the first opportunity. So those might be two 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.760 guys you try to look at because closers are needed 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.160 in the market. Also on the inverse of this, pay 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.840 attention because the worst thing that could happen is a 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:43.000 guy like bed Nar goes to a place like like 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.760 the Braves, you know, and they're just like, oh, we're 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.280 not committed to they wouldn't. They just got Pierce Johnson. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:48.920 But you know, I'm getting at where he doesn't become 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.040 a starter. A team like the Diamondbacks would be phenomenal 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.200 for him because then he is absolutely the closer. It 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.200 probably pitched him in the eighth and the ninth just 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.760 because the bullpen is such garbage. So to not only 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.160 the players going so hopefully you don't lose value, but 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.880 pay attention to the teams that are going to be unloading. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.680 Maybe have a little speculative ad in the next couple 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.200 of days on Robert Sworez Holderman, just in case if 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.920 they do get locked in as closers. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.560 Hater to the Diamondbacks is a tough sell in that division. 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.760 But if they could pull that off, I. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.280 Mean, I think Snell would be incredible. But to your point, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:22.120 the division. 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.200 And that's that's even harder one of them. I could see. 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:25.760 If you're going to give one, it's the closer. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.120 I think that diamond actually have to pay up. But 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:29.920 I just don't think either one of those. I think 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.320 the I think Bednar makes a lot of sense. I 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.840 think the Diamondbacks could turn their attention there, maybe even 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.200 get in the Keller talks. Keller, you know, they said 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.760 the pirates were willing to listen. Diamond actually don't want 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.960 to unload their roster. But if you have a controllable 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.360 pitcher for multiple years and you can get a guy 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.440 like Bednar in here, they might be willing to, you know, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:48.640 unload the farm a little bit. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:50.920 I'd be fascinating to see Mitch Keller and a good team. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.160 I get that would be a fascinating thing. Like does 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.760 he does he? You know, when you give run support 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.320 and good defense and all of those things that you 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.160 would love to have as a pitcher. I wonder what 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:00.680 you get out of mitche Kelly. I pretty much this 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.080 on that guy you hadt the beginning of the year. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.280 Every Pirates player ever, You're just like, oh, you know 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:05.520 what I would love to see for this guy. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.680 He loves see Brian Reynolds did a good lineup. I 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.359 couldn't see him. He signed an extension. I could not 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.040 believe that going into this year. He could have helped 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.680 a lot of teams this year. Three up and three 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.240 down and then more trade talk here you say. Kakuchi 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.919 struck out eight guys and six innings with meryfield homeward 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.359 and four Ribby's yesterday as they beat the Dodgers. Nolan 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.680 Gorman three for five but not one but two homers 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.840 yesterday as well, and they beat up the Diamondbacks eleven 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.159 seven Welsh ear muffs, three down. Lance Lynn gave up 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.520 seven runs and four and two third innings Wednesday against 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.359 the Cubs. Marcus Strouman said, hold my beer, he allowed 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.320 seven runs and three and a third innings. That's right, 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.600 You've got nothing, lance Ln. Oh my goodness, if only 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:47.520 someone had said that Marcus Stroman regression was coming. If 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.960 only that was a show a handsome bald host that 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.520 talked about how Marcus Strouman can't possibly keep this up, 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.240 and it was true. Framer Valdez depressed me yesterday. Six 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.000 runs and three and two thirds looks so good, Welsh 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.040 looks so good. But a last, what can we do? 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.480