1 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: and speaker. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: writer and course creator. We are two working parents who 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: love our careers and our families. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: From figuring out childcare to mapping out long term career goals. 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: We want you to get the most out of life. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 3: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. This 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 3: episode is airing in early ish mid September. We're going 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 3: to be playing a little. 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: Game of would you rather meet people who have maybe 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: school age children have probably experienced a version of this, 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: maybe on a Laren car trip. Or you're asking questions 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: of which weird or gross thing your kids would rather experience? Sarah, 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: do your kids play this game? 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: I think I learned it from my kids. They love 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: the following format of question, would you do this disgusting, 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: horrible thing or be suffering in some way? Or I die, 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: meaning like the kid dies, because I think they like 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: hearing the lengths I would go to to save their life, 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: and so I have to envision myself living out all 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: these nightmares, but my children get to live another day. 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: So that's the variation. We tend to play a little morbid, Yeah, 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: a little bit, a little bit morbid. 28 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: When we decided to do this, I started looking through 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: a bunch of the lists of these online like, so, 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: a bunch of online websites have published like a list 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: of one hundred would you rather questions? And I very 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: clearly saw that many of these would you rather questions 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: are perhaps more about the person writing the question, or 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: I guess your perspective, than anything else. So I mean, 35 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: one that had my kids laughing for a while is 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: would you rather have zero children or six children? Which 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: I found it funny that our family is like so 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: close to what's considered the extreme. On the other end, 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: that like or like, who would have thought, like no 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: one would have. 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: That many kids? 42 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: Like that would be crazy? So zero or six? I 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 2: guess that's the question. There was another one. It says 44 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: would you rather get a stomach bug in the middle 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: of a date you thought was going well or go 46 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: on a double date with your parents? 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, are your parents that bad? 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: Are your parents that bad? 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess this was somebody who was writing 50 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: this had issues with their parents. Apparently that they thought 51 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: this would that like vomiting in the middle of the 52 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: date would be equivalent to having dinner with their parents. 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: That's fascinating. I hope their parents did not discover this 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: online article. I'm happy to report with my kids were 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: happy to have dinner with me. 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: In that situation. 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: They chose that. 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: And then another common theme of them is would you 59 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: rather give a speech in front of X number of 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: people or do why? Terrible thing? And I'm like, come on, people, 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: speaking is not that bad. 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: It's like you people really hate speaking. Some people feel 63 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: the same way about speaking that like you or I 64 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: might feel about like diving off a cliff into shark 65 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: infested waters. I mean personally, I feel like. 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: At all, like diving off a cliff into sharping tested 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: waters is like dangerous. Whereas you know, that's speaking in 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: front of a group is just a skill that you 69 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: get used to over time. So I feel like that's yeah, yeah, 70 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: public speaking gets a bad rap apparently. So anyway, lots 71 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: of fascinating questions out there that you can then psychoanalyze. 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: The person who decided to post these questions online, but 73 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: I guess we're just going to ask each other a 74 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: series of them and see what we both get. 75 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: So, Sarah, you want to start. 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And just to preface this, so Laura and I 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 3: decided to make independent choices as to the ones that 78 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: we would ask the other person. But then I also 79 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: decreed that we had to answer it ourselves as well. Yes, 80 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: So I tried to choose things where I was really 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: curious as to what Laura would say, and I'm guessing 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: that she did the same thing. And I have to 83 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: say when I perused her questions, I was like, Wow, 84 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: some of those are really really hard. And if this 85 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: episode strikes you as kind of random, well yet yes 86 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: it is. But also these are fun prompts, so we 87 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 3: hope that maybe you take them to your dinner table 88 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: or the car ride. And I don't know, let us know. 89 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: We're happy to hear what you would rather do in 90 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: some of these interesting scenarios. All right, I'm going to 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: give you. I'm gonna give you a softball. I purposely 92 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: chose like an easy one. First. Would you rather never 93 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 3: eat watermelon again or be forced to eat watermelon with 94 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: every meal? 95 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Well? 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: Give it that watermelon as probably not my top ten 97 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: favorite foods. I think I would be fine to have 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: a life without watermelon. I mean, it's good, but I 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to eat it for every meal, So I 100 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: think i'd be bidding ad to watermelon. 101 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: Oh the fun random fact here. 102 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: Normally my husband is the one who cuts up the 103 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: watermelon in our household, and he sort of cuts the 104 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: rine completely off, so right then you're like scooping it 105 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: out of a bowl with a spoon or whatever to put. 106 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: On your plate. 107 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: And we had a family gathering, extended family gathering at 108 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: the beach, and someone suggested he cut it with the 109 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: rhine still on, like so it would be in little 110 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: wedges that people could pick up. 111 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: And I like it so much better that way. 112 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: It's just like less messy, Like I feel more like 113 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: it's a cool snack, like almost a snack on a stick, 114 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: versus this mushy whatever thing that I have to scoop out. 115 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: And so, uh, yeah, I guess I've started to see 116 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: watermelon in a new light. But I still don't want 117 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: to eat it every meal for the rest of my life, 118 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: how about you. Yeah, I don't even like watermelon, So 119 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: I was. 120 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: Like, this is one of those ones where I was like, well, 121 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: the question asker kind of got it wrong, because if 122 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: the question had said something like would you never want 123 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: to eat peanut butter again or be forced to eat 124 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 3: it with every meal? Then I would actually have to 125 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: think a little bit but one mile and I was like, yeah, no, bye. 126 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: Or maybe I'd be willing to have a small sip 127 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: of coffee with every meal, right, so I didn't have 128 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: to give it up completely or something. 129 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: I'd definitely choose that, especially if I could have a 130 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: decap option. That's yeah, fine, I have a tiny bit 131 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: of decay at dinner or something. 132 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you're talking about like it's like a shot 133 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: glass size the coffee. Yeah, I mean I'd probably be 134 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: willing to have it with every meal. 135 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 3: All right. Well, next one, this is a little bit 136 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: less of a softball. Huh. Yes, would you rather be 137 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: in jail for five years or be any coma for 138 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: a decade? 139 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: So we would say, like I have to ask some 140 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: follow up questions here is what kind of jail are 141 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: we talking about? Right, Because if we're talking about like 142 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: one of these hideous dungeons somewhere terrible, like, that's kind 143 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: of a different matter. If we're talking like a minimum 144 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: security local Pennsylvania Women's correctional facility, Like I feel that 145 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: would suck a lot and I'd be sad about it, 146 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: but you'd get that five years of life, you know, probably. 147 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: Read, watch some movies. 148 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: My family could come visit me, rather than losing ten 149 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: years of life completely. So I guess that would be 150 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: the stipulation here of how I wouldn't make that choice. 151 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: Do you think you really get to watch movies in jail? 152 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: I believe that's one of like there's a lot of 153 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: television watching in but I could be wrong. That was 154 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: just my understanding. Maybe there's different jails have different policies. 155 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, I had thought from some things I had 156 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: heard and read and some people who have had short 157 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: stints that there were movies and television involved. 158 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: But people can correct me. Yeah, like Martha Stewart's jail experience. Yeah, yeah, 159 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: I would also pick jail, even with the uncertainty of 160 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: what type it was. I mean, it sounds absolutely horrifying, 161 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: but I don't want to lose ten years of my life. 162 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: That's just like I mean, I guess I could come 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: to regret my choice, but I think i'd regret the 164 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: choice of coma more not knowing what the jail would 165 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: have been like and being like, I just erased part 166 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: of my life. Plus it's five years versus ten years. 167 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: If we're talking ten and ten, it might be a 168 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: little more difficult. But yeah, it's like fifteen hundred days 169 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 3: in jail, Like, can I make it through? Yeah? 170 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it sounds like the place where Martha 171 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: Stuart served her time wasn't terrible, Like she was apparently 172 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: making like crab apple pies and things like that. 173 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: So you'd be like, I'm going to run the first 174 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 3: jail time management course for inmates and see where this goes. No, 175 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: this is like, I mean, we take all this very seriously. 176 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a I'm sure it's a really traumatic 177 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: experience for everyone who experiences it. 178 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: But anyway, all right, next one. 179 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: All right, this one's interesting and I time focused. I 180 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: picked it for you. Would you rather have a pause 181 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: or a rewind button in your life? 182 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: Hmm? 183 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: I think possibly a pause. I think rewind is hard 184 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: to work with. 185 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 186 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: So if people have seen the Harry Potter and the 187 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: Cursed Child play, just the idea of messing with anything 188 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: with time travel. Can you know the butterfly's wing sets 189 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,479 Speaker 2: off of tsunami somewhere else kind of scenario. 190 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: What's done is done. 191 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: I think a pause button would allow you to stop 192 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: and linger longer in a moment that was really cool, 193 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: just so you could pause and appreciate it a bit. 194 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess that's what i'd choose. 195 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a really good point, because I 196 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 3: was initially thinking rewind, but I do feel like that 197 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: could be super disastrous and dangerous and maybe it's just 198 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: like better not to have that ability at all. And pause. 199 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 3: I was thinking pause would help you like reassess or 200 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: maybe like take more time to make a difficult judgment, 201 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: or like if you were about to have a car accident, 202 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: you could hit pause and then figure out how to 203 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: avoid it or something like that. So yeah, I'm gonna 204 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 3: go with pause as well, going with pause as well. 205 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's take a quick ad break and 206 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: then we'll be back with a little bit more of 207 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: this would You Rather game? 208 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: Well, we are back. 209 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: We are playing a little podcast version of would you Rather? 210 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: The game you've probably heard your kids play in the car. 211 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: Would you Rather? 212 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: Do? Some ridiculous things, some disgusting things, some not fun thing, 213 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: some scary thing. You can learn a lot about people 214 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: by asking these questions. All right, Sarah, we're continuing with 215 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: the ones that you came up with. 216 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: All right. By the way, I feel like this would 217 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: be a good dinner party icebreaker, Like if you have 218 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: a group of people that don't know each other well 219 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: and it's a small group. It wouldn't be good for 220 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: a large group because it would get unwieldy really quickly. 221 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: But I'm thinking like a six person dinner party, like 222 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 3: you could whip out a few of these to get 223 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: everyone started, And I don't know, I might try it, 224 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: all right. So would you rather be able to take 225 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: back anything you say or hear any conversation that is 226 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: about you? 227 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: I think I'd probably rather be able to take back 228 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: anything I say. I feel like the hearing the conversation 229 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: that's about you. Again, if you have any sort of 230 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: like public presence, there are already conversations going on about 231 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: you that you don't hear, or you can hear, like 232 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: through because they're happening in comments, so that people feel 233 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: like you aren't seeing or something. 234 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. Book reviews that people leave. 235 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: Online where they whatever have their own impressions of your life, 236 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: or you know, just you're already you've experienced that, and 237 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: you know that there are conversations. You know, it just 238 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: doesn't bother you. 239 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: I guess as much. 240 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't know whereas being able to take back anything 241 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: I say would be helpful. Although I just said I 242 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: didn't want to rewind button versus a pause button. So 243 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: I guess maybe what we need is my sudden burst 244 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: of self control. So I stop before I say the 245 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: thing it's the equivalent of the pause button, and then 246 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: give me like a big flashing red sign would warn Laura, 247 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: you shouldn't say this, and then I could could stop 248 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: and rethink and move on, how about you, Sarah? Yeah? 249 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: Or maybe it's like not done as a rewind but 250 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: instead more like all right, I take it back, and 251 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: people just like at face value are like okay, moving on. 252 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: That might work. Yeah, I would not want to hear 253 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: conversations about me. I just I think that would just 254 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: like not be helpful. Too much feedback and then you 255 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: become dwelling on that feedback, and maybe some of it's 256 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: positive and I wouldn't even want to shape my life 257 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: around positive things people said about me, because I don't 258 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: want to be necessarily influenced one way or the other. 259 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: Not that I think all the conversations would be positive, 260 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: but I'm not sure i'd want to hear any of 261 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: those closed door conversations. I will admit back when I 262 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 3: looked at Reddit everyone, I think I searched for my 263 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: name like once and I had like the grossest feeling, 264 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 3: and I thank god I only found like two very 265 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: minor things, and I'm like, I'm never doing that again. 266 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to know. I do not want to know. So, yeah, 267 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 3: don't want those conversations. All right, here is one I 268 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: don't even know my answer. I think I know your answer, 269 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 3: and I think this is one where like best of 270 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: both world, listeners should maybe all take a minute and 271 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: think about their answer and where it takes them. All right, 272 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: would you rather work the job you have now for 273 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: a year at double year current rate of pay or 274 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: have one year off with what you are making now? 275 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: So, because I have no desire to not do what 276 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 2: I'm doing, like, I don't feel like this is I mean, 277 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: I been working for a long time. I'm sure if 278 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 2: I wanted to stop working for a year, I could 279 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: stop working for a year. But I don't have any 280 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: desire to stop working for a year, So in that scenario, 281 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: just earning double whatever I've been earning would be a 282 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: nice bonus. So I guess I don't it's yeah, I 283 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: think you have to be out coming at it this 284 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: from what are you saying, Sarah? 285 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: Like what was I assumed that you would say you'd 286 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: rather work and earn double because you don't tend to 287 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: want to stop working, Like, yeah, I think that that 288 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: you'd be like, fine, I'll work and earn double. Amazing, 289 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: Like that's great. I guess there should have been a 290 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: third option, which is like work half the rate and 291 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: earn like one hundred percent. Maybe that would have been 292 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: like a nice middle ground. I think if I could 293 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: guarantee it's not even about the money necessarily, but if 294 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: I could guarantee that I could pick up every single 295 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: piece and earn my actually the money is important, and 296 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: I earned my full salary and then like start exactly 297 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: where I left off one year without losing a beat 298 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: clinically or creatively. Yeah, I would take them up on 299 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: that offer. Yeah, And I would just have a year 300 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: of reflection and thought and travel and a lot of 301 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: running and hanging out and like leisure, and like I 302 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: think that in itself would become like almost a type 303 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: of work, like just an exploration, and then it would 304 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: be super cool to be like because I don't want 305 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: to quit forever. But if I was just like guaranteed 306 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: to then slot right back in where I left off 307 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: and I didn't have to lose the income, yeah, sign me. 308 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean so that's a hard thing to say 309 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: because I guess the practicalities of you know, once you 310 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: have a business that's based on you, you can't walk 311 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: away from it for a year and come right back 312 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: to it where it is. Like I assume if we 313 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: stopped doing this podcast, like people would find other things 314 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: to listen to on Tuesday, and a year from now, 315 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: we do have to do a ton of work to 316 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: get those listeners back, right. I mean, sure some people 317 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: would remember us, but loyal as they may be, they're 318 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: not you know, gonna sit there wondering for a year 319 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: where we are and checking every. 320 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: Tuesday to make sure. And it's. 321 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: Like, I love of writing in and of itself, and 322 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: so it's kind of just fun to write for an audience. 323 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 324 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: Maybe if you were allowed to work during this paid year, 325 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: but like completely on your own terms, then that would 326 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: be like your choice, meaning like yeah, you write when 327 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: you want to write, you speak when you want to speak, 328 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: but sort of like, no, I guess you already do that. 329 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 330 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: This is really hard. 331 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: I guess I don't. 332 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't take on a whole lot of stuff 333 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to do anyway. It just would sort 334 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: of be like, yeah, don't really feel that excited about it. 335 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I do, you know have. 336 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: I am a worker bee and there are probably times 337 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: that I stick with stuff projects longer than I should. 338 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: When I know longer, I'm enjoying them, and so I 339 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: think there would be a good thing to evaluate with it. 340 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: But then I'm like, well, yeah, I don't know, so sorry, 341 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: you'd take it. 342 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: I would take it. What if the podcast ended like 343 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: right now, you're like, actually, I'm done. 344 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: That's it. We made it through seven years, Sarah, I'm 345 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: out in seventeen minutes of an episode. 346 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. So I know it's a super 347 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: thought provoking question and probably like a good self reflection 348 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 3: experiment for probably many of our listeners who are doing 349 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 3: work that they may really really enjoy, but just thinking 350 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: about what it means to them, And I'm not sure 351 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: there's like a answer, like it's not like my answer makes 352 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: me want to do anything specific, But I don't know. 353 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: Just use yuah, So I could totally see that somebody 354 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: might like the middle of the road option right where 355 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: you work like half of the year or whatever and 356 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: not just like twenty hours a week. 357 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it was that you like would be able to. 358 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: Work twenty six weeks of the year and earn the 359 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: same amount and so have lots of different vacation options 360 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 2: or something, you know, and maybe you like magically also 361 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: have childcare for all the hours, so you could like 362 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: travel on your own if you wanted to or something. 363 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 3: It's just like, although then I think, like, well, if 364 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 3: I had twenty six weeks of vacation, I think I'd 365 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 3: get sick of that. Actually I don't know, Maybe I 366 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 3: have to rethink. Yeah, I don't know. 367 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I have some questions, so I will 368 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: go ahead and start asking these questions of Sarah. We'll 369 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: take an ad break after maybe one or two of these. 370 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: But okay, Sarah, would you rather be more attractive or 371 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: more intelligent? 372 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. This is a hard one. I mean, 373 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: I get no matter what I say, it's gonna come 374 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: off like horrible. But I'm like, I think I'm smart 375 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: enough and being like movie star attractive might be really 376 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: fun and open some doors. So is it disgusting and 377 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: superficial to pick that? Yeah, gonna go with looking like 378 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 3: Angeline Julie. Yeah, especially if it's like lasting. I mean, 379 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: if I'm just going to age anyway, I'm not sure 380 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: that would be worth it. 381 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: So well, we're all going to age anyway, but maybe 382 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: we it'll be a long time we can run with, 383 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: you know, the good looks for uh. Speaking of Martha Stewart, 384 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: she's been rocking it at age eighty if anyone looks 385 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: at her social media stuff. So whatever happened years ago 386 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: has all natural too well, but good for her for 387 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: finding the best people in the world to make it happen. 388 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: So she looks awesome, and so looking like that at 389 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: age eighty would be great. And sometimes it's funny because 390 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 2: you know, some people who were very attractive early in 391 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: life don't age that way. 392 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: But she was, like bed An attractive. 393 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: Early life and she's kept it, and that's pretty awesome. 394 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: I would definitely go with more attractive. I've well, it's 395 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: just I mean, yeah, I feel like I don't even 396 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: use a lot of my brain much of the day. 397 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: It's not like I'm doing quantum physics or something coming 398 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: up with new mathematical theorems. That I enjoy thinking hard 399 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: about stuff when I'm writing, but even that, it's it's 400 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: not breaking new philosophical ground or something. I feel like 401 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: my level of intelligence has gotten me three or so 402 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: far and just does little things like make me do 403 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: thousand piece puzzles for fun in my spare time, whereas 404 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: I've never been probably up where it is on the curve, 405 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: like the attractiveness could move further to the right in 406 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: a way that the intelligence could move also further to 407 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: the right. But maybe there's it's a little bit further 408 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: on the curve. So I would go with that as well. 409 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: Plus I wonder if people above a certain echelon of 410 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 3: intelligence would just struggle in like society a little bit. 411 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: That could maybe there'd be some negatives. There might be. 412 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: There might be unless you're like so socially and emotionally 413 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: intelligent as well, you've got amazing intuitive abilities. 414 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, we know superheroes in that way. 415 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're going to take another quick ad 416 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: break and we'll be back with more Would you rather? 417 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: All right, so we are back playing would you rather 418 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: the game where you propose different scenarios something that might 419 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: be scary or gross or not fun or just thought provoking. So, Sarah, 420 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: would you rather have a conversation with your great great 421 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: grandfather or great great grandmother or your great great grandson 422 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: or granddaughter. And I want to make the stipulation here 423 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: that I think there's going to be enough greats in this. 424 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: You can choose the number of greats, but this is 425 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: outside your natural lifespan, right, because theoretically, maybe one of 426 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: us would get to actually talk to our great great 427 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: granddaughter if we lived to one hundred or something like that. 428 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 3: It could happen. 429 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: But let's stipulate that it is enough outside that you 430 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: would not naturally live to see this person. 431 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is going to be relevant perhaps for 432 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: the next question as well. But I just find the 433 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 3: future way more intriguing than the past. I know that's 434 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: not necessarily typical for everyone. People get super into these 435 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: like ancestry things, and I'm kind of like, eh, I 436 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: don't know, so I've definitely choose great great grandson or 437 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: granddaughter love to know. I don't know. I would ask 438 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: them all about their grandparents and their parents because I'd 439 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: want to know about all the inner generations from their perspective, 440 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 3: and I guess to some extent you might kind of 441 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: hear a perspective about the future, which would be super interesting. 442 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: So that's what i'd go with. 443 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I don't know. I've never been into that 444 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 2: ancestry stuff too. My husband and some of my kids 445 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: really are, and they'll come up with something like, oh, 446 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: our line is related to Robert the Bruce. It turns 447 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: out everybody is related to Robert the Bruce. This does 448 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: nothing for you, Like there's some interesting genetic the way 449 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: the genetic analysis goes if you are of European heritage, 450 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: basically everything converges within the last thousand years, Like everybody 451 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: is related to everyone within about a thousand year period. 452 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: So being like we're related to Robert the Bruce is like, 453 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: well so what so everyone else. 454 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: Like why do you care? 455 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: But they get really into this, so like where the 456 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: lineage goes to get you to that or your your 457 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: relation to Queen Elizabeth. I, I don't know. I am, yes, 458 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: slightly less excited about the past. 459 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: Then it's also funny because people love to be like, 460 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: I'm related to this noble person and you're like and 461 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: nine jillion other like of their serfs and normal people. Yeah, yeah, 462 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: why are we choosing the one special one to focus on? 463 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: Like every Jewish person is related to Jerry Seinfeld, But 464 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: you know you're also related to like, I don't know whatever, 465 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: slaves in Egypt, I don't know whatever. 466 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: It's true, it's a long family lineage. It's been a 467 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 2: family tradition for a long time. Well, I guess the 468 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: cool thing about getting to meet a great great grandchild 469 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: is knowing that you had a great great grandchild. So 470 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: that's kind of cool. So the earth continued at least 471 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: to that point, and your family decided it was an 472 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: exciting enough thing to bring new people into the world 473 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: that they kept going with it too. So yeah, maybe 474 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: I would go for the great great granddaughter conversation as well. 475 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: So related, Sarah, would you rather have a one minute 476 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: conversation with your past self or with your future self? 477 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 3: Well, this one's you know, actually thinking about it, like 478 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: it might be dangerous to talk to your future self, 479 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 3: because like, what if you find out something bad and 480 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: then you're disappointed. So I kind of think i'd pick 481 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: my past self for safety reasons, and maybe I think 482 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: it well and that could be dangerous too though, because 483 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I would give my twelve year old 484 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: self a pep talk that it gets better. But then 485 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: what if that twelve year old then is like, well, 486 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: just put up my heels and like motivated, who. 487 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: Cares about med school? 488 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 3: Exactly? 489 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: So it was that a little bit of edge that 490 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: made it. 491 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna keep it real neutral, yeah, and. 492 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: Be like it's gonna be okay, like if you wanted to, 493 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: it's like, you're gonna have an interesting career, you'll get married, 494 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: you'll have lovely kids. Just tell her that hopefully she'll 495 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: be motivated enough by that to continue making good choices. Yeah, 496 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: I think probably past self as well would could you 497 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: kind of can already have You could write things now 498 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: for your future self to look at. So in some 499 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: ways you can have a conversation with your future self, 500 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: like just that the future self will have to have 501 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: their part of the conversation. 502 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: I have a funny story with that. So I was 503 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: playing with Google Calendar, and I don't really use Google 504 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: Calendar except like some my husband invites and I like 505 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: was like, oh, let me check the tasks function. And 506 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 3: I saw that I had put a task in in 507 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: like twenty sixteen or something that was like maybe it 508 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: was twenty seventeen. That was like for twenty thirty and 509 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: it said play Annabell's first day of school video. So 510 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 3: I don't know who gave me that idea, but cool idea. 511 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: And also that's kind of like the past self talking 512 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: to you, so that'll be super interesting. Although we can't 513 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: like have a conversation, but I'm excited for that task 514 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: to pop up. And yeah, I'm here. It's only six 515 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 3: years away. 516 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: Now, only six years away. 517 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I've been looking at old videos and 518 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: stuff on my phone, old photos and the. 519 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: Apple time hop thing. 520 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: I mean they show you things that happen on this 521 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: date or whatever in years past, and it's been fun 522 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 2: to see the videos, to hear the kids' voices and 523 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: even you know, hear my voice talking about stuff, and like, Okay, 524 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: I guess I'm having. 525 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 3: A bit of a moment with. 526 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: Past Laura and maybe I should record more now whatever 527 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 2: I'm talking about I record all the time I have 528 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: passed fretro. Laura wants to listen to past Laura others 529 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: unless all this stuff gets erased from the digital sphere piece, 530 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: Laura can listen to past Laura more than she probably 531 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: ever ever wants to. All Right, Sarah, would you rather 532 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: swim with sharks or sleep in a house you knew 533 00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: to be haunted? 534 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: This one is one of those where I'm like, well, 535 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 3: what if one does not believe in haunted houses? Or like, 536 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: what is haunted mean? So I am definitely not swimming 537 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 3: with sharks, so I'm gonna hedge my bets with the ghosts. 538 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean I don't know. 539 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: Because my husband and my fourteen year old are both 540 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: scuba divers, and they point out that seeing sharks on 541 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: a dive is actually really cool, Like you don't see 542 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: them that often, and contrary to popular perception, sharks are 543 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: not like constantly circulating looking for swimmers to bite jaws style. 544 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: I mean, it happens, but it's not that common. So 545 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 2: people actually pay good money to go sleep with, not 546 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: sleep with sharks, to go swim with sharks. 547 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: So I get it. I can't. 548 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 2: I think maybe if I knew it was like I 549 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: was observing a group of sharks from a distance, I 550 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: might go do snorkeling scuba diving to go see them. 551 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: But I don't really believe in ghosts either. So the 552 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: how otted house like, there's no real such things, So 553 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: I think probably i'd be okay to sleep in there too. 554 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: What if we change it to a house with three 555 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: pythons on the loose? 556 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm probably taking my bet with the sharks in 557 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: the like that sense I described with the like observing 558 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: the school from a distance. 559 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like snakes. Yeah I don't either. I 560 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: guess if I could close my door and I knew 561 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: they couldn't get under it, it might be okay, I 562 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: don't know. Okay, we're gonna move on. 563 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: Oh that's good little visual image for all our listeners 564 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: who just thought they were commuting to work today and 565 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: now you have to live with that one. 566 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: Would you rather have a. 567 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: Longer Christmas vacation or a longer summer vacation? Like if 568 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: I were going to add three weeks to your vacation 569 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: budget here, would you rather take them in the winter 570 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: or the summer winter? 571 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: Because our weather is way better, and there's more skiing opportunities, 572 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: so we could like enjoy Actually, I would love this. 573 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's do it like four weeks of 574 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: winter break and six weeks of summer break, as long 575 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: as there are some camp options and stuff available for 576 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: this faux winter break. But like from a Floridian perspective, 577 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: this would be amazing. Plus it would like better more 578 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: balanced throughout the year versus having an all in one go. 579 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: I think your answer is gonna be very different, But 580 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: I am all for this plan. And hey, it's why 581 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: we have Like places that have year around school tend 582 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: to be places like Arizona. I think because like no 583 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: one wants that summer off. That's the most miserable part 584 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: of the year. Why would you want to be off? Then? 585 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love summer, I will say. I mean so. 586 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: Depending on how we view this question, Like if I 587 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: don't have to give up weeks of summer right, like 588 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm not transferring weeks of summer over to Christmas. 589 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Ye, happy to get extra another week at Christmas? I mean, 590 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: why not? 591 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: Then we could like take that trip to New Zealand 592 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: then or something. It's just always hard to because the 593 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: kids don't want to be gone on Christmas, and it's 594 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: a bit of a hassle to move presence or to 595 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: open them somewhere else. And I mean, how is Santa 596 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: Claus going to find us if we're in a hotel somewhere? 597 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: And I sang on Christmas Eve as well, So we 598 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: always have. 599 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: To go like after. 600 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: But then it's limited because you're back January first, January second. 601 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: Being able to take till January eighth would open up 602 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: a lot of possibilities in terms of traveling farther at 603 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: times when there are a lot of places that are 604 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: not that pleasant in the summer. So yeah, I would 605 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: love to get an extra week at Christmas, but I 606 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: don't want to give up a week of the summer 607 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: to get it. So I'm not sure how that all 608 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: plays out. 609 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: But hey, you know, I think college students get like 610 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: a really long winter. 611 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: That is true. 612 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: That is true. 613 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: I remember we'd be off from like December fifteen to 614 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: basically February first, because there was like a month yeah 615 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: exam period, but if you didn't, if you only had papers, 616 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: there was a lot of it was like. 617 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: The old day's work from home flexibility. 618 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: I guess, all right, last bonus, Sarah, would you rather 619 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: meet Harry Potter or Santa Claus? 620 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: Well, I did not grow up with the edition of 621 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: Santa Claus, and I definitely grew up with the udition 622 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: of Harry Potter. So I will pick Harry. You'll pick Harry, Yeah. 623 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: My kids would. My kids would might struggle with this one. 624 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: I think they'd like to meet Harry Potter though, because 625 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: they haven't really met Santa yet. I mean, his helpers 626 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: have various breakfasts with Santa phenomenon, and he keeps bringing presents, 627 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: So I guess Harry Potter might be slightly more exciting. 628 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: Bonus if it's like, actually Daniel Radcliffe so well, he. 629 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: Doesn't look like Harry Potter anymore now he's an adult man. 630 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: We're doing a lot of time travel though, so could 631 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: be go meet Daniel Radcliff circle like two thousand and three? Yeah, 632 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: all right, So moving on, there's been our would you 633 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: rather questions. This week's question is from a listener who 634 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: wants to justify outsourcing household cleaning. She says, how do 635 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: I justify it if my hourly rate is lower than 636 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: that of what the cleaning service is charging? 637 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: She says, for full transparency. I'm looking for permission. 638 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: She says. 639 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: She recently took a part time administrative role for twenty 640 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: five hours a week while her kids are little. For 641 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: various reasons. She's paid well, but not as much as 642 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: a cost for like having a cleaning service come to 643 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: her house for let's say two hours. Like what she 644 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: would earn in two hours is less than what she 645 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: would pay for two hours of a cleaning service cleaning 646 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: her house. 647 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: So she's saying, can I justify this? So, Sarah, what 648 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: do you think? 649 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: I love your answer, but I just want to add 650 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: the fact that, like two hours of work from a 651 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: cleaning service would probably take me like eight hours to 652 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: do because I am not as efficient and not as 653 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: good as they are. 654 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: And they often bring more people, right, Like if you 655 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: have a team of three people, like, there's more man 656 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: hours here, Like the fact that they're there for two 657 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: hours doesn't mean you're only getting two hours, Like that's 658 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: like many many more man hours. 659 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: Correct, And honestly, even if it was one person, they're 660 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: probably still one point five to two x speed as 661 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: efficient as I am. And so I think you have 662 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 3: to be careful thinking about hourly rate and thinking about 663 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: what it's actually saving you. So before you even answer 664 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: the question, make sure your math is correct thinking about 665 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 3: how long it would actually take you to clean. And 666 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: with that, I let Laura give the rest of the 667 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 3: answer because I think it's perfect. 668 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a lot of things like that. 669 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: You probably could figure out some of you, Like if 670 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: you have an older car, you could probably figure out 671 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: car repair, but it would take you a lot lot 672 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: longer than it would take to bring it to a 673 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: mechanic who actually knows what they are doing. And so 674 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: or painting your walls, Like again, you can paint your 675 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 2: own walls, the amount of time it will take you 676 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: to do a halfway decent job versus a professional painter 677 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: is probably not a comparable number. So things to keep 678 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: in mind as you're doing the economics. But I will 679 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: say that I think hourly rate has got to be 680 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: somewhat based on household income and not just yours. I 681 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: am assuming that this listener of ours has downshifted from 682 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: a sort of full time big job to this heart 683 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: time administrative role as a household decision that they've decided 684 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: somebody should be around more hours for whatever reason they 685 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: have made that choice. But assuming that that is a 686 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: family decision. Then we are talking household income, not just hers, 687 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: as she has taken this hit as a bitefit as 688 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: perceived as such, to the household. And just to put 689 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: it bluntly, I mean, I live in a fairly well 690 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 2: to do community, and most of the stay at home 691 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: moms I know around here do have housekeeping services. And 692 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: that's true even if their hourly rate is technically zero, 693 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: because it's based on both their household rate and the 694 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: fact that they don't want to do it right, Like 695 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: they don't want to spend the time that they could 696 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: be with their kids or managing their household, or volunteering 697 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: in the school or whatever it is, cleaning their baseboards. 698 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: So if this person has decided to work less to 699 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: focus more on their kids and managing family life, obviously 700 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: she values that quite a bit. So go ahead and 701 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: put a dollar number on that that's incredibly high, and 702 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: then you can. 703 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 3: Justify it to yourself all you want. Yeah, and just 704 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 3: also be careful to see whether there are you know, 705 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: the fact that you had to ask permission and have 706 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 3: all this guilt around it. Do that experiment. We've had 707 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 3: you guys do many times before. We've swapped the genders, 708 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: and we have moms working a very busy job at 709 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: a law firm, and dad has a more casual job 710 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: but is doing a lot of the household stuff. Do 711 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: you judge him the way you're currently judging yourself for 712 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 3: hiring out the heavy cleaning. Maybe you do, but maybe 713 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 3: you don't. So interesting to think that through. Why we 714 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 3: place certain expectations on ourselves, maybe somewhat based on gender, 715 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 3: even if we don't realize that. 716 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 717 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: I always point out that one of the most commonly 718 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 2: outsourced household tasks is lawnmowing, and that is because it's 719 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: historically male, and a lot of guys don't want to 720 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: spend their weekends mowing the lawn and so they don't 721 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 2: feel particularly guilty about it being hired out. 722 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: And so that's something that a lot of people do. 723 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 2: Now. Obviously, if this household is if money is not 724 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 2: in a big supply, though again, if somebody is consciously 725 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: working fewer hours as a household, you know, it's let's 726 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 2: just say that there are ways one can find money 727 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: in different places with different choices. So if this is 728 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: a priority for you to get a cleaning service, maybe 729 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: you do something like hold on to a car for 730 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: a year longer than you would have right, Or maybe 731 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: you take a slightly cheaper vacation that you stay at 732 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 2: a less nice hotel for a week, and that opens 733 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: up cash that you could use for this. 734 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you take a good. 735 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: Look at various recurring bills that you have if there 736 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: are any of them that could be trimmed to a degree. 737 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: Just when you're past the point of being on the edge, 738 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 2: there's often some discretion somewhere, and if you decide that 739 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 2: something is a household priority, you can often find money 740 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: for it by deciding that something else is less of 741 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 2: a priority. 742 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 3: And this person, to be clear, didn't make it sound 743 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: like there was even like an issue. It was more 744 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: a she wanted a permission slip. So we are. We 745 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 3: are signing on the dotted line. 746 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: Signing on the ditted line. 747 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: There you go. 748 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: Permission granted. All right, love of the week. Well, I'll 749 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: just go ahead and say I like my cleaning service. 750 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: It's really nice too. On Thursday morning, the coming you know, 751 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 2: the kitchen is clean and it lasts for about ten minutes. 752 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 3: But that's okay. For ten minutes my kitchen is completely clean. Well, 753 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: I will go with the lawn service. We have both 754 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, there may be some scenarios where actually 755 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 3: one half of a couple does want to maybe say 756 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: they want to do the lawn because then they get 757 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: like outdoor time to themselves. No, I think we went 758 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 3: through that very very briefly. But it's really hot out there. Yeah, 759 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 3: the lawn people are so efficient, So I'm just grateful 760 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: that everybody in our household feels like this is a 761 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 3: worthy investment, and I'm glad to support our lawn team. 762 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 3: They do a great job. Excellent. 763 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 2: All right, Well, this has been best of both worlds 764 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: we've been playing. Would you rather maybe a game you 765 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: want to play with your family later today or as 766 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: you know, a dinner party or something like that. We 767 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: will be back next speak with more on making work 768 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 2: and life fit together. 769 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the 770 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 3: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, 771 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 3: and you. 772 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: Can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This 773 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 2: has been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join 774 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 2: us next time for more on making work and life 775 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 2: work together.