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The Colin Coward Podcast 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi everybody, and 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: welcome in to our Independence Day podcast. Joel Class is 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: going to join for thirty minutes of great college football talk. 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: And we're talking the additions to the Big Ten, USCUCLA, 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: We're talking SEC, We're talking Notre Dame, will Oregon get 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: invited to the Big Ten. A broad overview look at 17 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: the goings on in college football over the last several days. 18 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: So the Kyrie Irving to the Lakers rumors and the 19 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant to the Golden State Warrior rumors. I don't 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: think those deals are going to happen in the next 21 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: day or two, and I'm not really sure. I'd bet 22 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: eighty twenty Katie to the Warriors will not happen. They're 23 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: not going to give up the farm. And I don't 24 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: think deep down Katie wants to be a Warrior. But 25 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving is in Los Angeles, is not leaving, it's 26 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: been said until a deal is done. And this is 27 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: something to think about that. I know a lot of 28 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: people that listen to my show say, you know, Colin, 29 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: you talk about LA and California teams a lot because 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: they're all winning. The Warriors, the Dodgers, the Rams, the 31 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: Lakers won a title three years ago. They're winning. Our 32 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: soccer teams are good. People are good now. Lincoln Riley 33 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: at USC when I worked at ESPN for a decade, 34 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: you had more viable teams in the Northeast. The Giants 35 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. You know, the Yankees were the Yankees. 36 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: The Red Sox were for some of that time excellent. 37 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Right now, New York's going through a terrible state of 38 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: their sports where their NBA teams and their NFL teams 39 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: are a mess. One of the things that's really happening 40 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles is that when the Rams moved to town, 41 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: the NFL is so powerful. It is taking market share 42 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: and big suite owners and advertising revenue from all the 43 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: other teams. And when the Rams win the Super Bowl, 44 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: it's bit the fear of God in Genie Bus and 45 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: you know the Dodgers group that the Rams are here, 46 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: they're winning, They're becoming a model of the NFL, and 47 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: they're not going away anytime soon. And I think this 48 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: is a big part of Genie Buss of the Lakers 49 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: willing to say, yeah, Kyrie is a headache, Kyrie is selfish. 50 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: It seems absurd. My father wouldn't have done this, but 51 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: it makes sense right now in Los Angeles. To get 52 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Westbrook out of town and get Kyrie in. You'll become 53 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: a playoff team and you'll become relevant again. Inside the 54 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: walls of the Lakers, they are very aware of the 55 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: media criticism, and Genie is very aware that Steve Balmer 56 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: and the Clippers have more money, more net worth. They're 57 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: going to build a new arena and they're going to 58 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: be a team that is like the Warriors, willing to 59 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: pay a heavy, heavy luxury tax. The Lakers would rather 60 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: not do that. The Bus family's wealth is all with 61 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: the Lakers. Steve Balmer's wealth with the Clippers is not. 62 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: It's not just with this pro basketball team. And so 63 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: I think there is a sense of, if not desperation 64 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: or panic, a little fear. You've got to make the 65 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Lakers relevant again. Pillows self tickets. You can give away tickets, 66 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: you can paper the crowd with freebees. But right now 67 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, if USC wins nine or ten games, 68 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: rams justin Herbert Dodgers, Clippers, I think have to be 69 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: deemed as a top five team in the league next year. 70 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: Paul George and Kauai. For the first time, maybe ever 71 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: in the last thirty forty years, the Lakers are in 72 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: danger of becoming the fourth topic of conversation because the 73 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: Westbrook thing just does not work. It does not work. 74 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: Kyrie works, and you can talk yourself in as a fan, 75 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 1: as an owner, as a player. You can talk yourself 76 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: into Kyrie a d Lebron BEGA championship team. I don't 77 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: think they are. You can talk to yourself into it. 78 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: You can't if Westbrook is on this roster. Let's get 79 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: the Joel clad So Joel claud is the voice of 80 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: college football on Fox, and we do a lot of 81 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: deep dives, although we have our TV segment every week 82 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: where I try to mentor him and he doesn't want 83 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: to listen. That's true, But this is interesting, Joel. About 84 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: three months ago, Mike Bone and I were on the phone. 85 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: I was in my backyard and he was talking about 86 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: the challenges of southern California. It's a very distracted market. 87 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: And you know, he was saying, Hey, do you have 88 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: any ideas? And I said, you can't play Rice in 89 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: LA when Pete Carroll was here, there was no NFL, 90 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: there was no LAFC, the Dodgers weren't as dominant. The 91 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Clippers were a joke. I'm like, the world's changed. You 92 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: can't play Rice. I said what I would do, Mike. 93 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: I would call Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio State and I 94 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: would have one to two home and homes every year 95 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: Big ten because the PAC twelve so weak. Lincoln Riley's 96 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: not going to be challenged by year two. He's just 97 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: not going to be challenged on a weekly basis. And 98 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: it was funny, and there were other things talked about 99 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: during the call, but you know, he was we were 100 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: just talking Mike's always called me and just ask questions, 101 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: you know, la. And so when the moment happened and 102 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: I got the call on USC moving to the Big ten, 103 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: and my thought was, well, I don't know if he 104 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: was teasing me. If he was, but I wasn't shocked 105 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: by it at all, are you no? Well, let mean 106 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: initially yes, because I had not heard anything. And normally, 107 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: and you know this, you and you and I talk 108 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: about this all the time, like when there are things 109 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: going on, like you hear little ripples, right, like little 110 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: things like, oh okay, that would be interesting, and kind 111 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: of this was um. I felt like very well kept 112 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: um by everyone involved. And so when I initially heard it, 113 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: I was I was surprised and I was shocked. And 114 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: then three minutes later after that wears off, it's like, well, yeah, 115 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, like of course this happened. This was and UM, 116 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: I think if you, if you really have any semblance 117 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: of thirty thousand and foot view, this was inevitable and 118 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: in some way UM So to me, it comes down 119 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: to and the conversation. I'm sure what he was talking 120 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: to you about, um is economics and exposure. And in 121 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve that had degraded both of those things 122 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: drastically since the beginning of the century, really, you know, 123 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: since since since the Liner Bush days at USC, when 124 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: the PAC ten at the time was say, a viable 125 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: and very healthy and great conference, and it has deteriorated 126 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: to a point that it has become a punchline. And 127 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: and I've thrown that line out there, and people think 128 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: it's unfair, but it is fair because the PAC twelve 129 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: is literally a hashtag now called PAC twelve after dark, 130 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: like it's no one watches them play, right, And and 131 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: when you look at the economics of where the SEC 132 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: is about to go with their media rights steal, and 133 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: where the Big ten is about to go with their 134 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: media rights deal, and what's on the horizon for the 135 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: conferences like the Big twelve, the PAC twelve, the economics 136 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: weren't even close. Those those conferences were going to start 137 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: to double up the others in terms of the revenue 138 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: distribution per school. And you can't sit in that situation. 139 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: So in some ways USC's hands were totally forced. And 140 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: I know that I'm going to talk a lot about 141 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: this in terms of USC because this was USC driven. 142 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: UCLA is along for the ride, Yeah, I know that 143 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: they'll bristle at that, but they are, and that's kind 144 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: of the truth. Well, you know, I've said this before. 145 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: It's easy to beat up on Tom Hanson and Larry Scott, 146 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: and I don't think either was a visionary as a 147 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: PAC ten or PAC twelve commissioner. But there's something I've 148 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: tried to tell my friends for twenty years, because I've 149 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: lived in all four corners of the country. The PAC 150 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: twelves at a disadvantage. Seattle, San Francisco, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Denver, 151 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Slash Boulder. A lot of these teams are in professional 152 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: sports markets. SEC's not big Twelves, not Big Ten's not 153 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: so USC and UCLA, University of Washington, Cal Stanford, Arizona 154 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: State are competing against pro teams. It is hard to 155 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: create the fervor and the interest when there's a game 156 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: tomorrow with professional players often in the same stadium or 157 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: same area code or vicinity, and so it doesn't mean 158 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: as much out here. I've noticed since the NFL arrived 159 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, u C, L a USC, watch read 160 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: the LA Times, listen to sportstock radio. They're not on it. 161 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: They're just not a topic at all. I do still believe, 162 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: and I think you'll agree with this. Um, I still 163 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: believe that USC has that potential. USC captures the heart 164 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: of LA maybe more so than any other team that's here, 165 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: even professionally. Maybe maybe other than the Lakers. Yeah, and 166 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: maybe I'm being too college centric, but boy, when when 167 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: the USC is rolling, they desperately love they love it. 168 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: When USC gets going here, it's it's, you know, everything 169 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: about it, the sunglasses on the band, the coliseum, the scene. 170 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: I still believe that USC can be kind of the 171 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: focal point of the sports world in their market, and 172 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: no other Pac twelve school can really do that. Yeah, No, 173 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: I do agree Lincoln Riley. You know it's it's funny 174 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: because I got a lot of this. Whoa Lincoln Riley 175 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: doesn't want this. But when Lincoln Riley took that Sunday 176 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: morning call with Rick Caruso, Carol Fault, Mike Bone, I 177 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: don't know every word of it, but I do know 178 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: they sold him on moonshots and the Olympics and big 179 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: and expansion and playing the best. So he's got two 180 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: years to load up this roster, two more transfer portal cycles, 181 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: two more recruiting classes. So by the time he gets 182 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: into the Big Ten. This this team will be ready 183 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: to play against anybody. I think at home against Ohio State, 184 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe not in Columbus, but they'll be able to go 185 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: tell to tell with everybody else in that conference. So 186 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: you know, when I look at the Lincoln Riley situation 187 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: and I to myself, I don't know if he knew 188 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: going forward, but he's not a guy to me. I 189 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: think he left Oklahoma because a reality set in Oklahoma 190 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: is decreasing in terms of viability the state for high 191 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: school recruits. Texas has oil money, Sark and Jimbo Fisher 192 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: harder to ply pri players out. He's moving to the 193 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: SEC and gonna go up against SEC schools that I've 194 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: been recruiting those high schools for one hundred years. And 195 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: I think he looked in the mirror and thought, I 196 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: got to get to a state with more players, because 197 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be harder and harder with the NIL 198 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: to pry away players from Texas oil money. There's just 199 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: more money in Texas than Oklahoma. So that's always been 200 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: my takeaway why he left. He just looked at the 201 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: reality of his program Texas the SEC and thought, I 202 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: got to get to a bigger state. It could be 203 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: a Florida school, it could be a Texas school, it 204 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: could be a California school. If Kirby Smart was struggle, 205 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: it could be the Georgia job. But I got to 206 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: get to a state that is mine where the nil 207 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: money generated by my state can compete. I think that 208 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: there's only four schools in the country that can open 209 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: up their back door and be within an hour's drive 210 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: not flight drive of a recruiting base that could finish 211 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: number one in the country. I think it's Miami. I 212 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: think it's Georgia. I think it's probably LSU or Texas 213 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: or combination of those two and then USCA. So you know, 214 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: and maybe you throw A and M in there because 215 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: of the proximity in Texas. But my point is that 216 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: it is a really small number, and it does not 217 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: include Oklahoma. It doesn't even include Ohio state. You know, 218 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: they've got to be a national recruiter. It doesn't even 219 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: include Alabama. They can't sit in Alabama. They've got to 220 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: go out. They've got to win battles in Texas and 221 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Louisiana and Georgia. I mean, you know this, right, And 222 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: so it's really made what Nick Saban has done even 223 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: more remarkable. But USC is one of those places where 224 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: you can open up the back door. You can get 225 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: in your car, you can you can drive south on 226 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: the five for an hour, you can drive north on 227 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: the five for an hour, and you can have a 228 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: roster that can finish this in number one class in 229 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: the country. That's I mean, that's the truth of it. 230 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: I think that was a big reason why. And I 231 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: think that he saw and I'm going to get crushed 232 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: for this, but I don't think Oklahoma is totally tapped out. 233 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: But I think he saw how perfect it had to 234 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: be in order for Oklahoma to win a national championship. 235 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: And I think that that USC probably has more wiggle 236 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: room in that because of what I was talking about 237 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: in recruiting. And that is not a knock on Oklahoma. 238 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: So I want to be abundantly clear here for everybody 239 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: that listening to this. I believe Oklahoma is a top tier, 240 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: blue chip program in college football. 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Because Notre 284 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: Dame was independent forever, then can join with the ACC 285 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: half the way. Why can't you be independent and viable anymore? 286 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: Explain that, Oh, that's a great question. The revenue is 287 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: too great from conferences, Yes, because there's only six or 288 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: seven games that you're selling as an independent, you've got 289 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: to find the revenue out of your road games. Okay, 290 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: when you're in a conference. So Ohio State, let's just 291 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: bring up Ohio State and Notre Dame. Kay, that's the difference. 292 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: Ohio State is essentially in the Big Ten, selling both 293 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: their home games and their away games, So if they're 294 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: maximizing their brand regardless of where they're playing, Notre Dame 295 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: doesn't do that. So Notre Dame is maximizing their brand 296 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: in their home games because those are the ones that 297 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: they own. But they have to have some sort of 298 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: other arrangement for a grant of rights for their road 299 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: games in order to supplement the rest of the revenue 300 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: that a team like Ohio State would get from their conference. Now, 301 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: the trade off is that Ohio State then has to 302 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: go and share evenly amongst the other schools in their conference. 303 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: I do believe that it is getting to a point 304 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: where Notre Dame is sitting there and they're thinking to themselves, 305 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: we are leaving money on the table by being associated 306 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: with the ACC in our loose affiliation with them in 307 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: a football sense and then obviously with the other sports, 308 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: versus potentially to other options. So let's let's let me 309 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: walk through the options. Here's what I think Notre Dame. 310 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: This is what's on the table for Notre Dame. I 311 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: do believe that they can stay independent, maybe not for 312 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: a long time, but at least for the near term. 313 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: As long as they were to leave the ACC scheduling 314 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: partnership that they have, they leave all their other sports, 315 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: They basically leave the ACC, join the Big Ten in 316 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: every other sport but football, and then get the loose 317 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: scheduling agreement with the Big Ten. I believe that they 318 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: would garner enough revenue at that point where they could 319 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: stay independent. There will become a time when that just 320 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: is going to be moot and they're going to have 321 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: to fold themselves into the Big Ten. There is an 322 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: air of inevitability that Notre Dame will at some point 323 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: be a Big Ten member. I just don't know if 324 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: that's in the next three years, five years, or ten years. Yeah. 325 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: I hope I answered your question there. I think you're 326 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: asking me why can or can't you be independent? I 327 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: believe it, you know, I think I did. Yeah, it's funny. 328 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: I think football, because of the scarcity of games, is 329 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: the easiest part for a Texas Oklahoma in the SEC, 330 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: or a USC UCLA in the Big Ten, that's the 331 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: easy part. There's five road games, and remember Iowa Nebraska. 332 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 1: Those are not difficult flights. Those are pretty quick from 333 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: Los Angeles right three hours ish, Chicago's three hours fifteen minutes. 334 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: These are not difficult flights. And if you only play 335 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: five road games, you know, you may not even play 336 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: back to backs. USC or UCLA will play three out 337 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: of conference games at home, and then they'll have, you know, 338 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: ten more games and they'll do five on the road. 339 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't think weather is a big issue. September, October 340 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: and early November. You've been at those Big ten stadiums. 341 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: It's gorgeous, and you may play your last game, which 342 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: is Thanksgiving weekend for the Big Ten. You may play 343 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: your last game at home many years so your last 344 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: road game maybe November sixteenth. I'm sorry, an Arbor's not Buffalo. 345 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: It's fine, It's gonna be okay. I think the Olympic 346 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: sports it's really really hard, and you just you're gonna 347 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: lose more money than you've ever lost because of flying 348 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: teams all across the country. But you know, when I 349 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: when I look at all this stuff, there's a part 350 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: of this that in the past twenty years, the amount 351 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: of corporations in America has been cut in half. It 352 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: used to be seventy five now it's thirty seven hundred. 353 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: Because of consolidation. People get gobbled up. Now we know that, 354 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, unlike college football, nobody's getting gobbled up. But 355 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: what we're seeing in a sense is consolidation, is that 356 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: the English Premier League was almost gobbled up. Right the 357 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: big dogs were like, why are we splitting revenue? So 358 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: for the remaining you call them a step of them 359 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: golf right now, the best golfers are like, I don't 360 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: want to share revenue with guys at the bottom and 361 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: playing a pro ams on Wednesday. Right. So I look 362 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: at the Oregon Ducks, for instance, and I say to myself, man, 363 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: that's a pretty viable. That's a pretty viable football program. 364 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: I look at Kansas, I think that's a pretty viable 365 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: basketball program. And there are these random programs now that 366 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: are hovering out there and you're thinking, where do they go? Right, Joel, 367 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: where do they go? Okay? This I think now now 368 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: we're into the nuts and bolts because we just went 369 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: through a conversation that makes every fan depressed in those 370 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: from those other schools. The conversation being the Big TENNI 371 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: is not going to expand unless it's not ore game, right, 372 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: because the pie doesn't grow big enough too then because 373 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: the slices become smaller. Right, you take Kansas in, you 374 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: take Oregon in. They're not going to do that. The 375 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: president of at Ohio State and Michigan and Michigan State 376 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: and Penn State in Wisconsin, they're not going to vote 377 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: to have Oregon come in so they can take less money. 378 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: They're not going to do that. Okay, So that's why 379 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: you're not just all these people are like, well, okay, 380 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: obviously Washington and Oregon will end up in the Big ten. No, No, 381 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: like that's that's the problem. And so I feel you 382 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: if you're a fan of those programs, I feel it, man, 383 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I trust me. I went to Colorado. I feel like 384 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: we're this proud program, AAU institution, top twenty media market, 385 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: own the Mountain time zone, one of a national championship, 386 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. Stuck like we don't. We don't grow the piece, 387 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: apply large enough to get gobbled up. So what do 388 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: you do? I think that you've got to be proactive. Yeah, 389 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: those that are reactive and this and this goes back 390 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: throughout the history of conference realignment. I do believe that 391 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: those that have been reactive have been left holding the bag, 392 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: if you will, and only those that are proactive are 393 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: are getting themselves into the right positions. Now that doesn't 394 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: guarantee that you're going to be in the right position, 395 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: but it certainly helps. I think you've got to be creative, 396 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: and I think that you might have to move quickly. 397 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: Here's an idea. I know people might not like it. 398 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they do. If I was the Big twelve and 399 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve at this point, I would see the 400 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: handwriting on the wall that I have. There's maybe eight 401 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: to ten, maybe eleven valuable properties out there. Now, you're 402 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: not going to get Big ten money or sec money, 403 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: but maybe you can maximize revenue for those schools, but 404 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: you've got these other schools that are also loosely tied 405 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: to you because of their conference affiliation. I think if 406 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: those two conferences, let's say consolidated morphed into one conference, 407 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: and then you had a top tier bottom tier with 408 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: relegation possible, you could move down, you could move up. 409 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: The top tier of the conference would get a larger 410 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: section of the revenue share, the bottom section of the 411 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: conference would get a less her share of the revenue share. 412 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: That I think could be a viable opportunity. But you 413 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: cannot get into a situation where you've got equal revenue 414 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: distribution with all of those schools and think that you're 415 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: going to be on equal footing with the SEC or 416 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: the Big Ten in terms of competition, exposure, economics, any 417 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: of it. So I said my view of what the 418 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: Big Ten will look like going forward in football, the 419 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: top four will be Ryan Day in the Buckeyes, Lincoln 420 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: Riley and the Trojans, Harbon Michigan, and James Franklin at 421 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Penn State. Those will be the Big Four. The next 422 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: four will be Meltucker Michigan State, Chip Kelly UCLA, Kirk 423 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: Ferents Iowa and Paul Chris Wisconsin, Northwestern, Pat Fitzgerald, p J. 424 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: Fleck at Minnesota will be bowl teams. But I believe 425 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: your first four and that's your next four. And I 426 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: said today on Fox, I said, if that's half your conference, 427 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: that is a heck of a conference. That's a really 428 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: good conference. And I touch on that, Joel, because I 429 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: think college football has a big game problem. If I 430 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: take the NFL schedule every week, there's maybe one game 431 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: a week Texans play the Jags. I refuse to watch 432 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: the other games. I'll watch in college football Labor Day 433 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: weekend ninety five games George Oregon, Notre Dame, Ohio State, 434 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: those are the ones you want to see. Yep, yep, 435 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: it's the reverse of the NFL. It's the reverse of 436 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. Following weekend ninety five games close Dama, Texas, 437 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: And I'm interested in Lincoln Riley's Pack twelve debut was Stanford. 438 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 1: They have a big game problem. And to me, Texas, 439 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: Oklahoma to the SEC, usc usually to the Big Ten. 440 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to get combined those four teams twelve more 441 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: great games on television a year. This is entertainment now 442 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: and It's really about inventory, is what you're talking about. 443 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: Valuable inventory. It's a business. At the end of the day. 444 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: No one wants to talk about that, and I know 445 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: that fans, you know, bristle about that. But it is 446 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: a business, and you need to create more valuable inventory. 447 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: And that's what just happened. More valuable inventory was created. 448 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: There is a massive big game problem. I believe that, 449 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: and I've talked to you about this at length. I 450 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: think that we still need to fix the way that 451 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: we make non conference schedules in college football in order 452 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: to drive more interesting matchups, more meaningful matchups, and more 453 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: valuable inventory. I think we still should get to a point, 454 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: and this is where we're headed. Now. We're going to 455 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: have these two conferences that are really the power brokers 456 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: in this sport, and they're going to have the same 457 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: amount of the teams. I believe that the SEC and 458 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: the Big Ten should start talking about crossing over and 459 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: doing some sort of non conference challenge where you pit 460 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: the top, you know, versus one from the previous year, 461 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: two versus two, three versus three, four, versus for five 462 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: versus And now you start talking about the inventory in 463 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: college football going way up and I think the value 464 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: in those games going way up, and I think that 465 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: that's probably where we're headed without a powerful governing structure, 466 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: which without a visionary looking out for the global structure 467 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: of the sport. So in its current fragmented state, we 468 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: are headed towards two superconferences. There will be some that 469 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: are left out, there will be some that might get 470 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: in that aren't in at this point. But college football 471 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: in the future will be major college football least will 472 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: be limited to at most I think forty schools. I 473 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: don't think you're wrong. And you know, if you take 474 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: the SEC with Texas Oklahoma and the Big Ten with 475 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: USC UCLA, there's obviously about five schools out of that. 476 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: Miami now with crystal Ball, Clemson, Notre Dame at its best, 477 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: Florida State or again that are going, hey, we're good 478 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: enough to compete with you guys. I don't think you 479 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: can put them in a conference geographically. It's just asking 480 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: too much. And so I don't know how it comes out, 481 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: But I say this all the time. The PGA wouldn't 482 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: be in this much trouble had they not taken care 483 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: of the elite performers. Greg Norman's been complaining about the 484 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: PGA for twenty years. Michelson for ten, college football wouldn't 485 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: be in this problem. They have no CEO. This is 486 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: why the UFC stole so much market share in the 487 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: fight game from boxing. Boxing had no They just had 488 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of individual commissioners and promoters. Right, So I 489 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: don't I feel sympathy for the oregons and the outsiders. 490 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: I do. This is what happens. It doesn't matter if 491 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: it was the Saudiast, Amazon or Apple. The PGA was vulnerable. 492 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's the Big ten of the SEC. 493 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: College football was vulnerable. So to me, this was just 494 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: bound to happen in this consolidation world we now live in. 495 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: And it was also unfair to think that we were 496 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: just going to thrust onto the backs of programs like 497 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: USC and you know, Miami in some sense, in the 498 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: ACC and the Alabama's of the world, in the Ohio 499 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: States of the world, like a Texas Texas is a 500 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: better example Texas and ou USC. You've got to make 501 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: all the money for all of us, and then we're 502 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: going to split it equally. It's like whole time like 503 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: time out like that can't be your model that model 504 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: is going to get blown up. I think it's unfair 505 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: to expect USC to remain loyal in that situation. That's 506 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: not a popular opinion. Obviously. People want idealistic world, in 507 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: the utopia world where you know, it's all kumbay on everything, 508 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: but that's not that's just not reality. And that's what 509 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: you're talking about, is like economic reality, business reality. College 510 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: football has been vulnerable for a long time, and the 511 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: reason is is because no one's been looking out for 512 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: the whole There's a reason the NFL is sitting where 513 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: it's at right now. And it's not just because it's 514 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: the tailor made sport for television that's helped, but it's 515 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: also because way back when, boy they circled the wagons 516 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: and they came together and they said, this is the 517 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: model that's going to make us ultimately more valuable than 518 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: anything else. They've stuck to it and look at where 519 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: they're at now. By the way, I think Ohio State 520 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: will face Alabama for the national title this year. I've 521 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: looked at both. Yeah, that's my takeaway this morning. Your thoughts. 522 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 1: I think Obama enters the season as the number one 523 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: team they've got, you know, obviously the incumbent Heisman Trophy 524 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: winner and Bryce Young and I think they've got the 525 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: best defensive player the country come back, So that's they're 526 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: gonna be very tough. They've done well in the transfer portal. 527 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: They obviously recruit really well. They're a better team than 528 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: they were last year when they won, when they lost 529 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 1: in the National Championship game. I think Ohio States the 530 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: best remaining team outside of Alabama going into the season, 531 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: at least. I don't know how you stop that offense. 532 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: I think it could be an offense that we put 533 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: into the same category as the Borough LSU Tigers, the 534 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Mac Jones Alabama Crimson type. It has the feeling of 535 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: that great running back with electricity, depth at running back, 536 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: very good offensive line, quarterback that could potentially win a 537 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. Distributes well as deep or deeper wide receiver 538 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: corps than anybody in the country, with all different styles, 539 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: Guys that can body you up, guys that can beat 540 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: you in the slot. Ohio State's going to be sensational, 541 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: and it comes down to one question for them, can 542 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: they play defense? But they're going to be My two favorites. 543 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: Closely following that are three schools that I think are 544 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: a rounding out the rest of my top five. I 545 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: think A and M is going to be very good. 546 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: Jimbo's recruited at a high level. They've got some serious 547 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: dudes there, I think. I think Notre Dame is going 548 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: to be really good, and I think it's the best 549 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame team in twenty five years on the field. 550 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Last year, when I did their game against Wisconsin, they 551 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: were winning and Brian was doing a good job with him. 552 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: But even to his own credit, he admitted to me 553 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: were a year early. This offensive line is not ready yet. 554 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: They're going to be very good next year. Is one 555 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: of the reasons I was a little bit surprised he went, 556 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: but he got so much money he had to go 557 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: to LSU. They're going to be better this year and 558 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: then the last one. And this is this is what's 559 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: going to be interesting, because I do believe USC is 560 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: going to be vastly improved and maybe the class of 561 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve. But Utah is going to be really good. 562 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna put Utah in there as my last 563 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: team in the top five. A right, I don't know 564 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: if I agree with that last one. Yeah, I know 565 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: I knew you wouldn't. I knew you wouldn't. But that's it. 566 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: That's okay. The skiing this king is good. Not quite Colorado, 567 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: but they listen. I'm I'm biased. Well. Happy Independence Day 568 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: to you and your beau, beautiful family, my man and 569 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: we'll talk to him. Yep. Absolutely always always great to 570 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: bring around college football with you. I appreciate it. The volume. 571 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: Make sure to check out The Draymon Green Show. I 572 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: brought Draymond Green into the volume because one of the 573 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: more entertaining voices in sports. Unique perspective understands behind the rope. 574 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: Also chops up with guests like Gary Peyton, Zach Levine, 575 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: Tracy McGrady. Make sure download The Draymond Green Show wherever 576 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, only on the Volume podcast Network