WEBVTT - Fight or Flight: Election Year Stress

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tamika d.

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<v Speaker 2>Mallory and it's your boy my Son.

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<v Speaker 1>In general, we are your host of t M I.

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<v Speaker 3>Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration.

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<v Speaker 1>New name, New Energy. But what's up my song?

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<v Speaker 4>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on my no makeup for the second one?

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<v Speaker 4>There you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, going back to makeup. I decided as I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the video from last.

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<v Speaker 2>Week, Oh why it's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know what? It is cool? Like, Actually, I've

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<v Speaker 1>really been feeling so free. I still always laugh. I

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<v Speaker 1>know we talked about the sun the show before, but

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<v Speaker 1>when Alicia Key says she wasn't wearing makeup no more,

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<v Speaker 1>people were so upset and they're like, why did everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>going crazy? And I remember Swiss being like, so let

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<v Speaker 1>me just get this stray. You're mad about somebody else's

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<v Speaker 1>face and what she's gonna wear on her face. Like

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't say you don't need to wear makeup. She

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<v Speaker 1>says she's not gonna weird makeups anyway. I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, I'm just tired of it period for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Just needed a break. Skin sometimes needed to break.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a great facial didn't want to put any

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<v Speaker 1>makeup on, and so that's just it is what it is. However,

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<v Speaker 1>on camera you can see the dark rings from not

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<v Speaker 1>getting enough rest and certain things that come through.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we're going.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to it. But you know what, I truly want

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<v Speaker 1>to force myself in the authenticity of who I am

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<v Speaker 1>and you know whatever, to just have a balance where

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<v Speaker 1>you don't always have to show up.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need that's none needed.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you want to do it here, but

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<v Speaker 3>it shouldn't be like a requirement for you to move around.

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<v Speaker 1>Or be on Yandy was on TV. She had a

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<v Speaker 1>collaboration or she brought Porsche into a collaboration that she

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<v Speaker 1>did with Bloomingdale's and they had an interview in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>on a local news station to talk about the products

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<v Speaker 1>and the collaboration and all the things, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>big moment. Congratulations to Yandy, and congratulations to Yandy. Just

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to her for being the type of person

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to bring somebody else to the table. Portia

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<v Speaker 1>has I don't know what you call it. It's lenen

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<v Speaker 1>bed linen, which actually feels amazing, like literally her linen

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. I have them. It is amazing, and so

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<v Speaker 1>again Yandy brought her into the collaboration. But the point

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<v Speaker 1>of this is that on the interview that they did,

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<v Speaker 1>Yandy didn't wear makeup. And it's not I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very vulnerable to show up in front of these lights

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<v Speaker 1>and camera without your coverage of blemishes and under your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and all of that. But what she said, which

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<v Speaker 1>I respect, is that here I am promoting a skin

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<v Speaker 1>care line, sometimes I have to show people what the

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<v Speaker 1>actual rawness of my skin looks like. Not that she's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna wear makeup. Of course she's gonna wear makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>We love it, We doll ourselves up. But every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then I have to be able to show people

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<v Speaker 1>my skin. If I'm not comfortable wearing my skin as

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<v Speaker 1>a person who owns the skincare line, then how I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to encourage you to get your skin together and

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<v Speaker 1>then just pack it down and don't show the.

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<v Speaker 3>World doesn't make sense, And you know, and shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to Syandy, because that's one thing I love about Yandy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yandy does not have a problem with being vulnerable. This

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<v Speaker 3>is just who she is. She's she's from the hood,

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<v Speaker 3>like she's just down the earth. She's raw and I

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<v Speaker 3>just love it. That's why, you know, we have such

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<v Speaker 3>a dope relationship. And shout out to her, Shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to Porsche, you know, for promoting what they have in Bloomingdale's.

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<v Speaker 1>I have open doors to the two Black lakes, two

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<v Speaker 1>black women keep on moving, and that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There are other black products in many of the Department's

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<v Speaker 1>stores at this point, And there was a time when

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<v Speaker 1>it really like wasn't like, let's just be clear that

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<v Speaker 1>it may have been in one or two, but not

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where Yandy could get a partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomingdale's and then they say okay, and we're gonna bring

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<v Speaker 1>Portia in as well, Like that just wasn't a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that was happening. So you know this, it's a great thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, overall, I think the sisterhood is one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the as you said, vulnerability of Yandy it made

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<v Speaker 1>me be like, yeah, like why why why? And I

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<v Speaker 1>love my makeup artist, Tatiana, because she's like all for it,

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<v Speaker 1>like she could be getting paid, but she's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>should actually wear your skin because it's it's good skin.

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<v Speaker 2>There. Shut out to Tati.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's talk about my thought of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, everyone who's anyone, everybody, even the people

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<v Speaker 1>that's not on the internet, even people who don't watch TV,

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<v Speaker 1>have witnessed the horrific, horrific video of Puffy beating, brutalizing,

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<v Speaker 1>abusing Cassie. Everybody's seen it. It made me sick to

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<v Speaker 1>my stomach. I mean because, for one, as I said

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<v Speaker 1>several weeks ago, when all of this stuff, all of

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<v Speaker 1>this first started, and when the lawsuit came out, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when a Cassie sued him and all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that you can love someone. People know that

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<v Speaker 1>I have a close relationship with Puff, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can love someone and they can do something really wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got to just be able to say it's

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<v Speaker 1>just wrong. It's no, it's there's nothing. Some people said,

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<v Speaker 1>well you didn't say this or that. There's nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>say except it is wrong. And if anybody's looking for

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<v Speaker 1>me to try to make up the reason, well when

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<v Speaker 1>he was a kid, da da, I'm not doing any

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<v Speaker 1>of that because it's just wrong and it's horrific and

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<v Speaker 1>it's hurtful and that's just it, period, right, And it

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<v Speaker 1>just made me think about another piece because one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I saw after Cassie released her statement

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<v Speaker 1>in which she said, believe women, you know, the first

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<v Speaker 1>time they tell you their stories. And I saw all

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<v Speaker 1>these people like, yeah, you know, we should be believing folks.

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<v Speaker 1>We shouldn't need a video. We need to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to immediately believe what we see. And that's it. And

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<v Speaker 1>why is it that a video had to be present

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<v Speaker 1>in order for people to condemn the actions and to

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<v Speaker 1>believe what she was saying happened to her. I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking in this past couple of weeks where we commemorated

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<v Speaker 1>the life of George Floyd, that I hope people are

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<v Speaker 1>able to keep that same exact energy of believing victims

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<v Speaker 1>who've been brutalized without a video, because the same people

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<v Speaker 1>who are saying we should believe Cassie, you know, Cassie

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<v Speaker 1>and others the first time that they say something, these

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<v Speaker 1>will be the same people that are be in my

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<v Speaker 1>comment section like, well, I see the part where the

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<v Speaker 1>cop beat them up, but I need to know what

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<v Speaker 1>happened before that. I need to know what happened off camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to be able to see the parts that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see so I can know exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it had not been for George Floyd being

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<v Speaker 1>choked to death the way that he was on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have told you the story about an incident

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<v Speaker 1>which is alleged. I've never even had a conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>his family members about this, so all I can say

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<v Speaker 1>is they say that he hit a pregnant woman. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they would tell you about the fentanyl that was in

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<v Speaker 1>his system. They would have told people those things, and

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you the movement would not have been the

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<v Speaker 1>same if people did not see him his life literally

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<v Speaker 1>leave his body. It has been that, and the stories

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<v Speaker 1>and the cases go on and on, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there are people who did not see the video of

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<v Speaker 1>Breonna Taylor being shot to death who still don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>the story as it is being as it had been

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<v Speaker 1>told and proven because the officers. We literally had to

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<v Speaker 1>learn that the officers went into a garage and made

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<v Speaker 1>up their story and begin to feed the media lies

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<v Speaker 1>about Brionna Taylor in order for folks to say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>damn because but prior to that, I remember you being

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<v Speaker 1>on Clubhouse one time with some guys who was up

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<v Speaker 1>there talking about she was a drug dealer and she

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<v Speaker 1>was getting packages to her house and all of these

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<v Speaker 1>things that was bullshit, lies that have now been proven

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<v Speaker 1>in court. They've been proven by the witnesses who are

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<v Speaker 1>the witnesses, who are police officers that were involved, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I want us to do that. I want

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<v Speaker 1>us to do that. I want if we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to start saying that we have to believe people for

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<v Speaker 1>what they say at the very moment that they tell

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<v Speaker 1>you their story. I want people to stop asking us

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<v Speaker 1>to prove police brutality incidents, even if the person ran,

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<v Speaker 1>even if the person did this or that. In the

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<v Speaker 1>third the cop is the one who is the aggressor,

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<v Speaker 1>who has the most responsibility in the situation because they

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<v Speaker 1>have a gun, they have training, they have responsibilities that

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<v Speaker 1>come along with getting a paycheck to protect and serve.

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<v Speaker 1>So even this happened, he ran, he did this, This

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<v Speaker 1>one yelled at me, this one spit at a cop.

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<v Speaker 1>They know how to do it when the white woman

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<v Speaker 1>gets in the car and drives off in the police car.

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<v Speaker 1>They know how to refrain and de escalate, but they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to de escalate and refrain when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to our community. And I'm not conflating the two

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<v Speaker 1>things to say that one is more important than the other.

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<v Speaker 1>What I am saying is that the same people who

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<v Speaker 1>often say we're gonna believe folks, then they should also

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<v Speaker 1>respect the fact that when a victim shows up to

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<v Speaker 1>us and tells us that they've been brutalized, we believe them.

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<v Speaker 1>We believe them, and even if later on we find

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<v Speaker 1>out that that they slapped their mama, they did this,

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<v Speaker 1>they were on drugs, they were this terrible, horrific, horrid

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<v Speaker 1>person with this background. That night when that incident happened

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<v Speaker 1>and a police officer encountered that person, they had a

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<v Speaker 1>particular responsibility as a person who is paid by us

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<v Speaker 1>as taxpayers and paid by the state and or the

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<v Speaker 1>city and municipalities to handle their job with professionalism. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see that. I want to see the

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<v Speaker 1>energy that we have that is very selective to spread.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for me, in situations, right, it's it's not

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<v Speaker 3>so much about believing or not believing anyone, Right, It's

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<v Speaker 3>just that I realized that I have a powerful voice, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and when I speak about something that I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge of. I found myself in trou right, I found

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<v Speaker 3>myself just on the side of this is what the

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<v Speaker 3>news is saying, and then finding out later on that

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Not saying that it was totally false or not, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Moving forward after I've I've had situations where I actually

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<v Speaker 3>spoke up or spoke against someone. I think for me

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<v Speaker 3>to speak against somebody, it's a lot different than me

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<v Speaker 3>speaking up for someone. Right, So if I'm speaking up

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<v Speaker 3>for a victim because I want that person to see

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<v Speaker 3>to receive justice, it's not me speaking against anyone, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in this situation, it took time for me

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<v Speaker 3>to actually have to see something or have something that

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<v Speaker 3>I felt comfortable saying, Okay, I'm going to speak against

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<v Speaker 3>this situation because it was for me because I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that I was honest and I was

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<v Speaker 3>given true to what I knew knowledge, you know. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think people have people have a problem with that.

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<v Speaker 3>People want you to speak to something when they want

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<v Speaker 3>to speak in and I think each of us has

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<v Speaker 3>our own have our own compass of what what it

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<v Speaker 3>takes for us to speak up, right, Because things I speak,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very vocal about a lot of things. Right when

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<v Speaker 3>I when I when I see something, I say okay.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, it computes in my mind that those are

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<v Speaker 3>the realities of that situation. I have no problem. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to stand and if it's wrong, then I can say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I was wrong. But there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of situations where I look and I say, okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know the dynamics of that. I don't I never

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<v Speaker 3>was there. I don't really know. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>anybody that knows.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I remember I would say that, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>in the previous show that we did, I said that

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<v Speaker 1>I was clear something because people were like, just because

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<v Speaker 1>you settled with somebody doesn't mean that that you did wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know that, right. We understand that settlements happen

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<v Speaker 1>all the time for various reasons. Sometimes insurance companies settle,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, when when a person of a high

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<v Speaker 1>network value is being sued. They may feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>too much damage to the business or the brand. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>people settle because there's just a no win situation. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>people settle because this part is true and this party

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<v Speaker 1>ain't and costs more to go through the So there's

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<v Speaker 1>different reasons. But in this situation, I was clear. I

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<v Speaker 1>was very clear. My my my instincts told me, my

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<v Speaker 1>heart told me that something happened, and something bad happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the way in which that settlement moves so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said that on our show, let's not fool

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves and act like we don't understand human instinct. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>if you my son or somebody else that's close to

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<v Speaker 1>me and a and a person who is not close

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<v Speaker 1>to me says that you did something to them and

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<v Speaker 1>you say you didn't do it, I'm not just about

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<v Speaker 1>to run out there and say you did just because

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<v Speaker 1>the world is telling me that that's what I have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I do value my friendships, right, I value

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<v Speaker 1>my friendships, and I value that if somebody has done

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to me, they have always been loving and kind

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<v Speaker 1>to me and helpful to me, that I at least

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<v Speaker 1>owe them that if they say they didn't do something wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>that I have to be able to take a moment

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<v Speaker 1>to try to reflect and gather and even still in that.

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<v Speaker 1>When we came on our show a week or two later,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that I believe something happened, and I also

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<v Speaker 1>said that listen, I can love you and know you've

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<v Speaker 1>done wrong and people love me and know I've done wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course it's not this two totally different things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't want people to get the impression that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm inhuman because I am human. I am a human person.

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<v Speaker 1>I have feelings. I hurt. When I saw a Cassie

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<v Speaker 1>being beaten, it made me feel like I was being

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<v Speaker 1>beaten because I'm a woman and I actually have dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with domestic violence, so it's no joke to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I again, I oh that something happened, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>horrific things that took place in that relationship, But I

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<v Speaker 1>still I don't really care who feels a way about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, I am not the type of person that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your friend. And then when the social media goes

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<v Speaker 1>crazy against you that I just jump with social media.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not realistic. And the biggest thing is that if

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<v Speaker 1>I feel you've done something wrong, I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them. I need to tell you. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>actually tell you how I feel, versus me going out

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<v Speaker 1>just to be able to catch the wind of getting

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<v Speaker 1>out there so that I could please other people by

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to them and and and and making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like, oh yeah, you with us that's not

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's actually much bigger than that though. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>where I stand. It's no confusion for those people. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen a couple people tag me, oh, well, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what is your What are you not being on social

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<v Speaker 1>media about this? Means? Well, I could tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>it me. It's different ways that people do different things,

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<v Speaker 1>but to do nothing is not okay. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>On that, and that's that on that. So that brings

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<v Speaker 3>me to my music spotlight of the day. But for

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<v Speaker 3>such a time like this, we need artists who are

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<v Speaker 3>speaking to the realities that were going on that who

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<v Speaker 3>are not afraid, who are not going to be politically correct,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, or.

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<v Speaker 1>Not correct because they could sell they could sell booty,

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<v Speaker 1>but they just don't want to politic exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to celebrate those who don't coward in the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>So a young artist from the Bay Area that I

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<v Speaker 3>really love. His name is l Russell. He was doing

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<v Speaker 3>a performance I don't know exactly where, but he spoke

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<v Speaker 3>up about what was happening in Palestine, and he spoke

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<v Speaker 3>about how it took him time and he wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>and he said it in the rhym like you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I said, And I looked and I thought, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like I have to say something, you know, So

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to larussell if you get to see that

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<v Speaker 3>freestyles on this page and he talks about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just seeing what's happening in Gaza and seeing what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>in Palestine and and and and talking about how all

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<v Speaker 3>those things are intertwined and how we need to be

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<v Speaker 3>able and be brave in this movement and speak about

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on. Yeah, because you know it gets a

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<v Speaker 3>little deep. Man gets a little different times, so shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to luissel Man. Appreciate you man.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So you know friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Friend friends, many others have them.

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<v Speaker 1>We should have that song as a part of like

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<v Speaker 1>the intro to we have the friends because we have

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<v Speaker 1>friends that are.

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<v Speaker 2>Really works but you know we're trying.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Anastasia. So our friends are are individuals that you

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<v Speaker 1>all know out there doing amazing things. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are our friend end because you know, we told them

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<v Speaker 1>and we met them and we liked them and we

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<v Speaker 1>see them. But some of them are friends because we

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<v Speaker 1>cry together, we fight together, we spend time together, we

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<v Speaker 1>do everything in this and absolutely turning up together. And

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Blake, who is joining us today, is absolutely one

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<v Speaker 1>of our friends. And I would say he's definitely our

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<v Speaker 1>dear brother. He's in the inner circle. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our circle is closed because it's closed because the it's

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<v Speaker 1>the elements are around us. The forces of evil are

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<v Speaker 1>constantly trying to pope their way in, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>built a fortress. And I would say that Michael, you

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<v Speaker 1>certainly are one.

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<v Speaker 4>Is this a fortress? Like when y'all rolled up on

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<v Speaker 4>my office in Albany started like yelling at me about

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<v Speaker 4>something I didn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, you was doing it?

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<v Speaker 4>Or is that like my birthday party? I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 4>to stay you know? Is it is a big no

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<v Speaker 4>question in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>The fortress that we've built, I think encompasses all things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is accountability that we have for one another.

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<v Speaker 1>It is fun, of course, it is enlightenment and education.

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<v Speaker 1>What I don't know. I never feel like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>call one of y'all and say, hey, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>can you help me how you know, help me prepare

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<v Speaker 1>a speech, help me think through a thing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've been a part of that for both

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<v Speaker 1>of you. So what people ask me on the road

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. One of the biggest questions. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>the most common question is what do you do for yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how do you renew and restore with everything

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<v Speaker 1>that we do? And I tell people I've built a

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<v Speaker 1>family that don't play about me, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly know that you are one of those individuals. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're a whole lot of other things.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that. For one, you realize to Mak and

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<v Speaker 4>did not respond about rolling up on the office.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we're gonna get to it. Actually, I said we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get to it.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard that that's in the accountability boku.

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<v Speaker 1>So, first of all of the many things that you

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<v Speaker 1>are is a former New York State assemblyman. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>are from from the Bronx, but you are a Jamaican immigrant. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you were born to Jamaican immigrants. Your parents, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about them. Last, you are also a member of

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<v Speaker 1>Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity, and that's such a big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, big big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>We're starting good.

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<v Speaker 1>You also were a vice chair of the Democratic National

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<v Speaker 1>Committee from twenty and seventeen to twenty twenty one, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you are the CEO of Atlas Strategy Group. And

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<v Speaker 1>also you have a major major effort that I enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>and am a part of, which is your Cairos events

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<v Speaker 1>where you organize and what is the name of the

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<v Speaker 1>actual initiative.

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<v Speaker 4>Chiros is the community that we've built. The vision is

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<v Speaker 4>where people all color see our power. The event on

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<v Speaker 4>the vineyard is called Convenient for the Culture exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's not just the vineyard. You're doing events

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<v Speaker 1>all over the country under the Chiros community where you're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing people together. And I think that what Chiros to

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<v Speaker 1>me is like exactly what until Freedom is. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>a place where everybody is a table, a seat at

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<v Speaker 1>the table. You don't have to be voting for this person.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be a person that doesn't vote at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we move you, but when you get there, you

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<v Speaker 1>show up as you are, as long as you care

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<v Speaker 1>about justice and equity and inclusion and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of those things, but the most important thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you are is the son of Hedley and Hillary.

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<v Speaker 4>Hedley Headler, George Blake and Hillary Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and that's that is how you how your roots

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<v Speaker 1>to Jamake come to be because these two are proud,

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<v Speaker 1>proud Jamaican.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, body roll, body Rod. I had oxtail coming in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we know every day, not every day.

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<v Speaker 4>But I found the spot. I found a spot. I

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<v Speaker 4>was shot and it was some good quality ox. It

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't like that water down stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know. Once you find them, you'll be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you're gonna know. Michael Blake is the type of person.

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<v Speaker 1>He gonna know the owner. He's gonna be having events

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<v Speaker 1>that if they have a problem where they're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>enough action, you're gonna tell everybody from the neighborhood to

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<v Speaker 1>go there.

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<v Speaker 4>This is.

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<v Speaker 1>Foind out. It's a white person that owns it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fine, Okay, come on, Jamaica, we got we love everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>If you can cook, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Cook, because you know how it's supposed to be, no question.

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<v Speaker 1>Well look, let's just get into this conversation because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people know you as a power broker, particularly

0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.720
<v Speaker 1>in a democratic party. Uh, and now I think I'm

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>watching you spread your wings beyond the democratic politics and

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<v Speaker 1>become a person you've always been for the people. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think this moment calls for us to be

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<v Speaker 1>more than our party, you know, more than our affiliations.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell folks about your beginning. We talked about Jamaica,

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.919
<v Speaker 1>talked about the pride of your family and their cultural roots.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us a entree into Michael Blake and who you are.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to start by saying my love and

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<v Speaker 4>respect for both of y'all for being consistent in the work.

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<v Speaker 4>Because a lot of people can show up occasionally, and

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people do show up occasionally, a lot

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 4>of people are not actually there regularly, right, And that's

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<v Speaker 4>how you know. Real friends and real friends do hold

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<v Speaker 4>you accountable, and real friends know how to turn up

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 4>and real friends know how to lead. So so just

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<v Speaker 4>that's important to start there. As we already know. I'm

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 4>from the Bronx, you know, you know, just we're clear,

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 4>crusted and burnside. There you go, ps. Seventy nine. So

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<v Speaker 4>I always start as a person to faith. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>believe in coincidence, and so for whatever are the reasons,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of pieces happen, that thing shape me so savage.

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<v Speaker 4>In The Quality's Children in American Schools, Johnathan Coleser wrote

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 4>that book. The elementary school he wrote about is the

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 4>elementary school I was at. He is seventy nine James

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<v Speaker 4>Carter was our principal. James probably is the only black

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<v Speaker 4>man I remember in school elementary through high school. I

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember seeing someone else like that. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>that stays with you. One eighteen deal with Clinton High School.

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<v Speaker 4>Most folks don't realists dee with Clinton and the Bronx

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<v Speaker 4>is the largest alumni association of any high school in

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<v Speaker 4>the world because there used to be all boys back

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 4>and they had three three different rotations of students, So

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<v Speaker 4>County Colin, James Baldwin, Charlie Rango, Ralph Lauren, all Clinton, Right,

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<v Speaker 4>so we got know that that trajectory. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>look my youngest of four boys, yes, heavily, George Blakey,

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<v Speaker 4>God rest his soul, Daddy. And then Mama. Everybody know

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 4>Mama Hillary Lawrence all day every day, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>robo call on my campaign, so everybody know that they're

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<v Speaker 4>But I always say this, there's several moments that uh

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<v Speaker 4>shaped me. And I was born with a heart murmur mm.

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 4>You know, Mama said, I was in the nick you

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<v Speaker 4>for about three and a half weeks. Uh, and then

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 4>freshman year, coming back from Northwestern, I fell asleep at

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 4>the wheel. You know, and so there was no car

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 4>coming in that direction, no car behind me, and enough

0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 4>car weight that we had cause my boy Eric Gargretcha

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 4>was his car. Weighed the car down. When we did

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 4>the three sixty six days before that, I wrote out,

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 4>Dear God, made today be my greatest day, greater than

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 4>the great day I had the day before. But my

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 4>goal has not been met unless tomorrow's greatest in the mall.

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 4>And that still hangs on my mama's fridge. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I I I say that to say I don't believe

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 4>in coincidence. And for all those different things. Being able

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 4>to go to Northwestern first homing family of the school

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 4>allowed me to be in Evston. Being in Evanston and

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 4>working at A and being Northwestern, I went to Comcast

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Sports did TV. Doing that, I did an internship with

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 4>uh A State Senator Jeff Schoenberg where a woman walked

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 4>in and said, you don't help me, im'na lose my house,

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 4>which I thought about the times mama will talk about

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 4>not having a house and being homeless in Jamaica, and

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 4>then learn learning those dynamic so all of those pieces,

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 4>I get interviewed for a training program called Yes We

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 4>Can and that was the real ultimate turning point for me,

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 4>because in two thousand and five, two thousand and six,

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm applying for different programs. I was applying for a

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 4>job to work for a unite here, which was a

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 4>restaurant hotel employee union. God Russell soul Henry Tammeran was

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 4>the president. Last interview, he says, you know, my son

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 4>Nate is starting a program to train black and brown

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 4>young people on how to run campaigns. So, okay, I

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 4>turned down the job because I couldn't afford the pay cut.

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 4>His assistant low Weeks calls me back and says, you

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 4>should apply for the program anyway. So I applied for

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 4>the program, and in two thousand and six, January sixth

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 4>is the first time I met Barack Obama and that

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 4>changed my life. You know, I was one of ten

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 4>people in that program at the holiday end on the

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 4>Hill in DC. And to be a kid from the

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 4>Bronx to then be around, you know, a future president,

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 4>and that changes everything. So again I don't believe in coincidence.

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm smiling because I remember what your what did your

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>dad say when he found out you was working for

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the president.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, he and Mama, they all acted. You know that,

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, of course they were on cloud nine. But

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 4>you know the uh, well, Daddy was the emotional Daddy

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 4>would always cry with pride. I mean, that was always

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 4>a beautiful thing. That's it was always power to be

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.719
<v Speaker 4>around a black man who was comfortable with with his tears.

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 4>My Mama had the best line when she said, we

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 4>went from no house in Jamaica to the Black House

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:25.360
<v Speaker 4>in Northwestern to the White House in DC.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, And so that always my relationship that was different.

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 4>No, no question, you know what I mean, you know

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 4>she's she's a g I understand what it is, right.

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:41.199
<v Speaker 4>Uh So then the extension when I got elected was

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 4>we went from a white House in DC to the

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 4>State House in Albany. Right, So all of that part

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 4>was a part of the journey that allowed me to

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 4>get here.

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 3>Just going through that process working for Obama. What do

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 3>you think about the political climate right now?

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 4>I think that we have been spoiled in some ways

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 4>that we had truly at once in a generational leader

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 4>back in the day. I think it was a Reagan

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 4>and before that it was a Kennedy. Like you have

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 4>that one person every thirty forty years so when you

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 4>don't have that leader, then folks are like, well, why

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 4>am I going to do this thing? And on both

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 4>sides we have on one side people not excited because

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 4>they're like, yo, I'm not really feeling this. And on

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 4>the other side you have a racist demagogue who has

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 4>millions of people who believe in that. So it's hard

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 4>to break through that. So for those of us, and

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 4>you said this a little bit earlier, I see this

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 4>as a calling for me, right, and this is not

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 4>a job. For those of us who see this as

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 4>a calling as a purpose, it's very hard Micee to

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 4>get people to break through because alsoone here is are

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 4>you Republican and Democrats? They're not hearing what you're trying

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 4>to say. And the challenge is that so many people

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 4>are wondering should I stay in the game because of

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 4>two people. You know, if it's Biden Trump, Okay, I

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 4>can't hear anything else. Okay, let's talk about what you

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 4>care about. Well, I don't want to talk about that. Well,

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 4>that don't make any sense to me. Right when we

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 4>had President Obama, at least you had the ability of

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 4>someone saying, you know, I'm still I'm gonna keep having

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 4>this conversation with you, because I don't want the brother

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 4>to fail. Even if I'm not feeling everything that's happening.

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 4>It's a challenge right now, but I do think this

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 4>will force us to get people to be focused if

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 4>we really want to be about it. This is an

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 4>easy moment for folks to walk away and say, y'a'm out.

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about people who say Obama didn't

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>do anything for black me?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, as the person that ran Black Outreach, I would

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 4>just say that they're flat wrong. Now, I think there's

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 4>an understandable generational emotional connection to the point that when

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 4>we have endured enslavement for two hundred plus years and

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 4>then beyond that post Jim Crow and others, I can

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 4>understand that you want more things to happen faster for

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 4>black folk. But for someone to say that Barack Obama

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 4>did nothing for black people, it's just dead wrong, full stop.

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 4>Right Like, we had the greatest increase in what happened

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 4>for minority businesses. We changed things when it came to

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 4>HBCUs well shit healthcare. I mean, like the reality is

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 4>saying to someone that things didn't change because of Barack

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 4>Obama tremendously more black people got access than they had before.

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 4>But at the end of the day, if you're not

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 4>feeling it, I understand that, right, But then the question

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 4>has to be life is a choice, right, And if

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 4>someone is like, well, he didn't do anything for me, well,

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, if you got a check that came to

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 4>you for something, or a refund, or something happened for

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 4>someone in your family, your mama was able to stay

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 4>on their healthcare, your grandmama or your somebody had some benefit.

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 4>The piece that we didn't do a good enough job

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 4>around and we still don't do enough, is connecting the

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 4>benefit to the person.

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, because the system continued to run and when we

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>got it, it was a disaster. So that's just clear.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know, and when you talk about the healthcare thing,

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that's a real big one because we were out there,

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that, Well, actually, I'm not sure that you

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and I were working together yet because you weren't on

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the tour that we did. But Yandy wash Tara Wallace

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>was on the tour. Who else was on it? A

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>number of people, Christy Henderson, Ilicia Butterfield, Jones, Joel's he

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>was on the tour. So a number of people were

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.719
<v Speaker 1>with us trying to help folks get healthcare. And one

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of the things that I don't you know, the talking

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>points in the a and the atmosphere was it's no

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the the program. It's something else I

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you about. The program was no good

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know it's still too expensive and all all

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>of those things. But while we were out knocking on

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>doors and out working with people, folks did not have healthcare,

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>like seriously, and in fact I did not have healthcare,

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and this gave us a number of people access. So

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>that is one you talked about. Minority businesses. Let's talk

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>about that a little bit more, because I don't think

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that President Obama gets enough credit for what he did

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>around minority owns.

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 4>The thing we gotta well go step back to your

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 4>previous point to make on just like just grounding the

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 4>conversation and I'll do the minority business. It would be

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 4>like someone saying to you or you you have done

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 4>nothing for anyone, Like it's just such a factually wrong comment.

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 4>The real thing is like, okay, well you're not feeling

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 4>you didn't see it. If we want to have that conversation,

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm down to have that conversation some one all day,

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 4>every day for black and round business. So again we

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 4>gotta have context. There was a war going on that

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 4>Senator Obama said, you elect me, were gonna end this thing.

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 4>He did. I We'll get you health care, and I'm

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 4>going to lead to the greatest increase in what happens

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 4>for minority businesses in the history of this country, full stop.

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 4>All three of those things happen, and so more money,

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 4>more contracts, more opportunities, more jobs happened for black folk

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 4>during that time in terms of minority owned businesses. Now

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 4>there has been a greater shift in black unemployment in

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 4>the right direction under Biden. And that's because of how

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 4>shitty things were under Trump. Right, So when we start

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 4>talking through we got to have context on these movements. Right, Like,

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 4>it's not a dem Republican point I'm making. It is

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 4>the numbers spoke for themselves when Bush was there, how

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 4>people were struggling. Numbers went up substantially on Obama. Trump

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 4>comes in. Numbers were disaster under Biden. Again just from

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 4>the number sense of it, it has made improvement. But

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 4>now what we got to do is how do you

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 4>make it more practical on the ground right, And you

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 4>know that's that balancing act that I had to endure

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 4>a lot as a staffer for seven years and an

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 4>elected for six People don't want for you to talk

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 4>about the things that you've done because then you're like, oh,

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 4>you airrogant, but you conceded. But if I don't, then

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 4>you tell me I'm do anything. So then I give

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 4>you the newsletter. Oh well, you only doing it because

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 4>you're trying to get elected. But if I don't tell

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 4>you what I've done, then why you're gonna let me?

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't make practical sense right right, And when we

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 4>think about it, I believe politics as an industry governments

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 4>is the only one where you are regularly telling people

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 4>to not speak their dreams. Right, Like if you were

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 4>the around the young kid, and a young kid was like,

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 4>you know what, I want to be an astronaut, go

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 4>get it. I want to be an NBA All Star,

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 4>go get it. I want to run the business, go

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 4>get it. Someone say a lot ya, I want to

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:44.919
<v Speaker 4>be president of Blacks. Relaxed because because politics is bad,

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 4>you might have been around a few folks that did

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 4>something bad, but politics is not bad. So coming back

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 4>to and around minority business. Right. One of the things

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 4>that I did with Bbe Hidago shout out to baby,

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 4>is we change things so that there had to be

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 4>a report and structure up to the Deputies Secretary of

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 4>the agencies. Why did that matter? Because when you have

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 4>someone that you report to who runs the day to day,

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 4>you move differently. And a lot of times folks are like, well,

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 4>you know what, I'm gonna do this minority business thing

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 4>when I kind of need to casually as opposed to

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 4>this part of your bottom line. And when millions and

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 4>billions of dollars a go in to black and round

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 4>businesses like what happened, it changes things. And so you know, look,

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day, I think we're in

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 4>that same scenario now where you have a lot of

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 4>people who are saying, I'm not really feeling Biden on

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 4>the substance of the policies fair game, right. However, to

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 4>say that nothing is happening, that's just dead, that's wrong,

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:41.479
<v Speaker 4>It's just not true.

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Why do you what do you think that has people

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 3>even thinking that Trump is a viable candidate.

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Because we've allowed an entertainer to take the place of reality.

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 4>I want to make sure we're real clear about this.

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump is a racist, false stole. I want you

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 4>to hear his daddy's in KK writings. He is the

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 4>person that was sued wouldn't let black and brown people

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 4>get access to the house. And he took out a

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 4>full page ad on the central part five. That's all

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 4>before he ran for president. But in folks like, well,

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump's on the Apprentice, what the hell are we

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 4>talking about right now? Right? He was a failed businessman,

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<v Speaker 4>But there are people.

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<v Speaker 1>Who say he get there was checks, there was money

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground when he was checks.

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<v Speaker 4>Went out because he was such a disaster during COVID

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 4>that he kept trying to block bills that finally Congress

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 4>had to then send out checks that the checks were

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 4>delayed because he wanted his name on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Nancy Pelosi really was responsible for carrying the water.

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<v Speaker 4>The false checks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the truth, full star. And I'm not even you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I'm like not a Nancy Pelosi

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<v Speaker 1>person at all. She was out, she was outside banging

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>like we going to give the American people some money.

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<v Speaker 4>And think about this. I don't know maybe one percent

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 4>of people who could actually tell you the name on

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 4>their actual dollar bills right now, right of like the

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 4>actual treasure right right. Even your bosses, your bosses don't

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 4>really sign your checks. It might be a CFO someone else.

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:04.879
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 4>This man held up folks getting money during COVID so

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 4>his name could be on it to make you think

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:17.479
<v Speaker 4>he's Marketer. And so where we're at right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how he's been able to make people think that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a super millionaire and he's that's not true.

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 3>But that's pretty much he's a lion.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:33.919
<v Speaker 4>He literally lied, he if in New York. In New York,

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 4>if any person who was not a president would have

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 4>done what he had done, they would have been in

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 4>jail quickly. He he literally lied about his money to

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 4>be able to get more money and inflated what he had.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a crime. Definitely. You have better healthcare, better housing,

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 4>more job opportunities, all these different things happening under BI

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 4>Like the stats are there now, I'm real clear that

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 4>there is a forty seven percent that's locked in on Trump,

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 4>no matter what you say. That's just the reality of it.

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 4>But when you have a scenario of someone who is

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 4>telling you and we talked a little bit about democracy

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 4>as well before right like on day one, I want

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 4>to be a dictator. Yeah, that's crazy. You gotta you

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 4>gotta trust someone when they say these kinds of things.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm clean, full immunity.

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm clear that no matter what I did, I'm good.

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>And I want the I want I want Congress to

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<v Speaker 1>pass the law that said that I give for.

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 4>And again we got to put it into context of

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 4>this is who this man is. Right like before all

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 4>of this, he didn't want black and Latino folks to

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 4>get good housing.

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>He didn't even want black people. He didn't want in

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>his businesses in the hotel exactly, he treated it was

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like the black people could only clean straight up.

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 4>He literally was like, I don't want them handling my money.

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 4>So like I don't want you handle my money. I

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 4>don't want you to access to my housing. Oh and

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.240
<v Speaker 4>by the way, I think we should kill these folks

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 4>who were actually innocent. But then folks are like, you

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 4>know what, he would be good And.

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Then when he was found, when those people were found

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 1>were exonerated, he still doubled down.

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 4>That's just racism.

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 3>So but I hear a lot of talk about RFK

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:26.720
<v Speaker 3>and people think he's a viable candy.

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 2>What do you say about that?

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 4>Rfk is a racist clown who should not be taken seriously.

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Whose number one donor is a Trump donor. Again, let's

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 4>let's just talk about this.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>So what is he there for? Yes, let's talk about it.

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.479
<v Speaker 4>Because you said it's a Trump He is there because

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to do everything to make sure to bite it.

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 4>No win full stop. Let me again, I want I'm

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna make this straight to the block. If you did

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 4>anything that was important to you and your entire family

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 4>endorsed the other person, that should be enough on.

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>That's really crazy crazy. I mean, that was it for me.

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:00.439
<v Speaker 1>I was I didn't even need to hear any else,

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:04.320
<v Speaker 1>not even because I think that his I mean actually,

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>actually I think that there are Kennedys that I respect,

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, So I'm not you know, I'm not taking it,

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not. I'm not into the Kennedys, like, I

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>don't follow them. I don't know what they do or

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>where the.

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 4>Whole squad.

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>And they said some damning things to.

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<v Speaker 4>Take the time, y'all. Google framed rfk JR. Now we're

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 4>gonna go back to the Bronx again. Rfk JR has

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.760
<v Speaker 4>a friend who he knew committed murder, went to jail

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 4>for it, and he tried to frame a black boy

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 4>from the Bronx and an Asian man for the murder,

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 4>knowing it wasn't true. An RFK JR. Bill O'Reilly written

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.919
<v Speaker 4>book put out thereof this black boy and this Asian

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 4>man committed murder that they knew didn't commit. Right. So again,

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 4>I just think we got to be clear by who

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 4>these people are, So like, why is he in this race?

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 4>Because they understand that Donald Trump really can't grow beyond

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 4>forty eight percent, they need one one and a half

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 4>not go for Biden. Yeah, that's his only chance. So

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to keep this man in and kind of

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 4>make y'all think, you know what, maybe I try something

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 4>that's an alternative, even though this man has no chance

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 4>to win it. Right, same thing around Cornell West, and

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 4>they actually can't win. I understand we can responsibly hear

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 4>opinions and.

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Values, and sometimes that's the purpose that I'm.

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 4>Being there, But they can't win, right, And so let's

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 4>understand that one percent. You go back to a twenty

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 4>sixteen if we're talking about like a ten thousand votes

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 4>in some of these states. If you're doing that, you

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 4>are helping Donald Trump to get re elected.

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 3>But the line, so I want to ask a question,

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<v Speaker 3>what criticisms can you give of Joe Bidy?

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 4>God is fair? We can't ignore that. Look, as y'all know,

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm a minister, I'm gonna be ordained that the in

0:41:55.800 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 4>the Jeneral Jesus was a Jewish man of color. It

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 4>is impossible to look at what is happening there and

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 4>not have some level of humanity, right, And it is

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 4>intellectually irresponsible for someone to say that I can't have

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 4>simultaneous realities to be true. I can say what happened

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 4>to the people of Israel is inhumane, and I can

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 4>say what's going on to the Palestinians and in humane.

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 4>They're both true, right, And anytime someone says that you

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 4>can't say both, it's ridiculous. Again, it's just lazy. So

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 4>if I'm watching.

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 1>This, it's so oppressivessive, So people tell you can't say

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that or else.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 4>Regularly, I had someone who has been a long time

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 4>donor call me anti Semitic because I said, we need

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 4>to stop attacking the students for wanting to protest, and

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 4>it does impact votes, because I go back to Barack Obama, Like,

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, the Iraq war is a big reason why

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 4>Obama won.

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, and there have been others. I mean we

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>know that there have been other wars that impacted.

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, Vietnam absolutely, Like so like the notion of like, well,

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 4>what's going on over there? People shouldn't know? Now, I

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 4>think we go back again to the block. If you're like, yo,

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 4>we're spending tens of millions of dollars over there, why

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 4>can't we do this here? That's a fair question, and.

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Their reasons because the Department of Defense budget is different

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>from other budgets, and there's a lot of different internal

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>stuff which we don't give a shit about that we're

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 1>hungry the block. The cheese is too high, goddamn period.

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>But then the other part of it is I don't

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>want one iota of my tax dollars that I already

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 1>need to go towards burning babies, can't. I don't want

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that connection. And then the third thing is I don't

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>want that military over here in America training US police

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>officers who already are too damned military.

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 4>That's a fair legitimate criticism that someone can app at

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:51.439
<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, an election is about choice.

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 4>In contrast, right, you have a choice to make if

0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 4>you do not vote for Joe Biden and Donald Trump

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 4>becomes president again, you are not safer as a black

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 4>or brown person. You're not safer as a woman. You're

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 4>not safer as a young you are not You're not

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.479
<v Speaker 4>gonna make more money, You're gonna have less access to housing,

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna have less access to rights. It's not Michael

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 4>Blake randomly saying, it's Donald Trump saying it. So, yeah,

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 4>be pissed with Joe Biden about the policies that you're

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 4>upset about, which is totally fair gaming of democracy, but

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 4>not participating, to me is unacceptable. And so that's why

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 4>in that dynamic, for those that don't want to do

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 4>the Biden thing, there are many of us. I started

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 4>my own projects called the Chiros Democracy Project. It's the

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 4>storytelling the democracy, the whole vision of it. You cannot

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 4>separate race and class and gender from democracy. And so

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 4>let me find out from you what issues do you

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 4>care about, and then from there, Okay, you want to

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.880
<v Speaker 4>fight for that. You need a democracy and you need

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 4>people to be elected to help you with that, and

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 4>if you choose that you still don't want to get involved,

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 4>I can't warsh you, but we cannot allow this to

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 4>be the reason, in my opinion, for a racist, sexist, homophobic,

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 4>xenophobic demo good to become president again.

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:18.280
<v Speaker 2>It's tough.

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.439
<v Speaker 3>It's very tough because it's a lot of people who

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 3>just lost faith, like people have lost faith in politics,

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 3>not just politicians, just the whole. When I look at

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 3>when I'm just what, I see it as a game, Right.

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna I'm gonna paraphrase from Dark Knight Rises at

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 4>the scene when when Bain and Batman are battling underneath

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.320
<v Speaker 4>and Batman tries to make everything dark, and Bain was like,

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 4>I thrive in the dark. Right. There's a lot of

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 4>things that move in the shadows of democracy that hurt

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 4>us as a people that people don't realize, and to

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 4>your example, one of those is the judges that Trump

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:01.360
<v Speaker 4>put in place are fundamental reason and that in moments

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.839
<v Speaker 4>now where you have a democratic president, you're not able

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 4>to move on things. But people see yo, I only

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 4>see by it, but you didn't see all the judges

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 4>they put it in here that's been trying to block you,

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 4>who have these lifetime appointments. But we can't sit it out.

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 4>We can't just say I'm just gonna hope this is

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna happen. Look, a few months ago, there was a

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 4>few weeks ago, rather, there was a poll that came

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 4>out that I think perfectly broke it down. It said

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 4>that the number one issue that was a concern for

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:29.800
<v Speaker 4>people was cost of living and inflation, but the number

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 4>one issue that determine you voting in the election was democracy.

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 4>So we have to do the better job of saying, Yo,

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 4>whatever your issue is, if you want to work on that,

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:45.760
<v Speaker 4>we have to have you in the game. This goes

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 4>to the dynamic of who's funding elections, right, This goes

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 4>to elect the dynamic of who's supporting whom right, And

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 4>until we can break that trajectory, that's why a lot

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 4>of reasons why these things don't so Yeah, for the

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 4>person in the block that like, yo, this democracy thing

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 4>ain't working for me, or why.

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Would I try to save it if it doesn't exist

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 1>in my world?

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 4>Because it does exist. Again, it's a perception that I

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 4>recognize as a real perception, But it's not real to

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 4>say democracy doesn't exist. And the framing of democracy is

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 4>not benefiting me in the ways that I would want

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 4>it to be benefiting me, then we have to ask

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 4>the questions of what is it that you need that's

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:32.280
<v Speaker 4>not happening, because too often it is a theoretical elite

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 4>conversation of like, let's save this entity. We're starting talking

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 4>about a premise that had a three fifth compromise and

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 4>all the different dynamics that weren't good for us, right,

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 4>and electoral college that were not practically good for us.

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 4>It was about sustaining white men in power in those dynamics.

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 4>It was an economic compromise for themselves, right, civil war, etc. Etc.

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 4>So now, yeah, but why do I need you to

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 4>keep this thing? Because the alternative is that you don't

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:55.800
<v Speaker 4>get to say shit. And I think again, if you

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 4>start having real conversations with people like that, like.

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Hey, yeah, I mean Trump said he's going to deport

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like literally, you out, student, you out like for protesting.

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 4>Full stop, you get, you get, you're getting arrested, you out,

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.320
<v Speaker 4>you're leaving. You're not getting a job, you're not getting

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:12.319
<v Speaker 4>a house, You're not having any of these things. So

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<v Speaker 4>we can have a conversation of should this be better?

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent or you don't say anything. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know any person that's like, you know what, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I can't wait for. I can't wait for

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:26.479
<v Speaker 4>a scenario where I can't save my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, well, hey, can I say no, Michael, because no,

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<v Speaker 1>because guess what we talk about the students. You said

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<v Speaker 1>that you had a donor who whatever whatever they did

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<v Speaker 1>because of the issue with with your statement on the students. Well,

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>we've got a democratic mayor here in New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>and I bet you students at Colombia don't feel they

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<v Speaker 1>can say anything.

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 4>Because maybe we should have a new mayor.

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, listen absolutely, because that would happened at Colombia.

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Is the end of it for me? Like I you know,

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:00.919
<v Speaker 1>we know it would be fool stuff. You know Eric,

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I know Eric. I've known Eric since I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little girl, and I say every time that I have

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>nothing but love and respect for him. But after the

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Columbia University incident, the handling and that was deliberate and

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 1>he knows better. And then the Washington Post article came

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 1>out that confirmed what I already knew, which is that

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:30.319
<v Speaker 1>big businessman and women and others told him send these

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>cops in there shut these students down and went on further,

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.759
<v Speaker 1>which you know, of course media picks up what they

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:38.879
<v Speaker 1>want to pick up, but there should have been more

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 1>conversation about some of them saying I donated to you

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.279
<v Speaker 1>and tend to continue to donate to you like this

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>is it? So basically, the Columbia University move was a

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>bart paid sold out a response to students. So now

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.320
<v Speaker 1>a student might feel like, well, I don't have a

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 1>voice because guess what. We have other friends who have

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:05.840
<v Speaker 1>children who are students at Columbia that would that have

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>been traumatized the whole year because this obviously began October

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 1>seventh through and they've been protesting a winter, this and that,

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 1>but their parents are telling them you can't say anything

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>because of your future this year, that and the third.

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<v Speaker 1>So how is that democracy?

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's still a democracy that you have a chance

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:26.760
<v Speaker 4>to go protest. That's a chance. Yeah, and the alternative

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 4>is that you don't say shit like so again, so.

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 1>You're saying it could it's terrible, but it could be worse.

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:36.759
<v Speaker 4>But again there's a tremendous difference from should I have

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 4>the ability to speak my mind whatever it may be,

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:45.759
<v Speaker 4>and whatever the causes may be. So whether it be

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 4>around Gaza, whether it be around the Women's March, whether

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:53.879
<v Speaker 4>it be around George Floyd. Should I have a society

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<v Speaker 4>where I can do that versus a man in Donald

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 4>Trump who is legitimate least saying you won't. I will

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<v Speaker 4>arrest you and I will deport you if you do that.

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<v Speaker 4>So tell us about the convenience of the culture. I

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.319
<v Speaker 4>created the convenience for the culture for that specific week.

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 4>So we do Cairos, We do a Chiro's conversation once

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 4>a week. Virtually, we do a Cairo somewhere in the

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.080
<v Speaker 4>world once a month, and then we do the convenience

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 4>for the culture once a year in Martha's venue this

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 4>year now be August twelfth through the fifteenth. Then we're

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 4>going to do another Chiros during Chicago at the convention, right,

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:30.759
<v Speaker 4>So our dash chiros dot com for anyone that wants

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:32.279
<v Speaker 4>to learn about that. But the reason why we did

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:36.799
<v Speaker 4>that is I wanted to connect power, whatever power may mean,

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 4>elected power, social justice power, economic power, in one space

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:44.920
<v Speaker 4>because too often we are showing up at these different

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 4>events and then people out.

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>You're a real stickler about that. I just think Ruby

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:56.920
<v Speaker 1>d was at a convening held by it may have

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>been Harry Belafonte. I know he was there, and there

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:04.280
<v Speaker 1>were number of power brokers and celebrities, black folks there.

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:07.120
<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the meeting, Carmen Perez tells

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:11.280
<v Speaker 1>us all the time that Ruby d stood up and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of going to meetings when there is no

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 1>action plan, there's nothing for us to do. And I

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:20.640
<v Speaker 1>know that I have heard you say many times. People

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>leave the meeting and they don't have an assignment.

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 4>No, and we're not going to do that. So we

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 4>start in collaborate with doctor Cheryl Davis out of San Francisco.

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 4>So we start with a Dreaming Forward session because, as

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 4>doctor Davis says, we got to get people permission to dream.

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Then we do a Chiro's conversation, so what's a fireside.

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 4>We do a Chiro's Connection so folks can actually network

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 4>with each other. We do a cultivation so like, what's

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:46.880
<v Speaker 4>the problem you're trying to work through, And then we

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:48.719
<v Speaker 4>don't do a celebration because I do think people need

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.920
<v Speaker 4>to turn up and have joy. And then we end

0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:54.319
<v Speaker 4>with collective impacts. So okay, now we understand what we're

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 4>trying to dream. Now we have the content, what's our

0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 4>plan when we leave from here? And a lot of

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 4>times people are like, well, I'm not sure if people

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 4>are going to show for multiple days. Well, you know,

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 4>if I'm struggling to get you to come to a

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 4>beautiful place that has black brown excellence in the space

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:13.759
<v Speaker 4>where we're trying to win, that's fine with me. But

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:15.799
<v Speaker 4>for those who have been there and you've seen that

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 4>we've gathered five hundred people who are serious about the work.

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>In the venue during the time. For people who are

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:25.240
<v Speaker 1>listening who don't know Martha's Vinyards, we want to enjoy vacation,

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.759
<v Speaker 1>their vacation, they having their drinks and their good time.

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:32.200
<v Speaker 1>And people are still popping in and out of and

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 1>some just sitting through a convening where you're being educated

0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know there is you're being educated, inspired, so

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>on and so forth. I think that's great. Last year

0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you had mister Jones.

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:47.240
<v Speaker 4>There, Clarence Jones, who was one of the speech writers

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 4>for Doctor King had we had a G. Tiss James

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 4>and ag A ron Ford talking about the power of

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<v Speaker 4>New York and Nevada. Right, you know, we we're serious

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.440
<v Speaker 4>about this and I think a lot of times we

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.319
<v Speaker 4>don't give ourselves grace and space to be around one

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 4>another just to hear who's killing the game and then say,

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 4>you know what, that's wonderful. I heard that, all right,

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:13.239
<v Speaker 4>But what's our plan? Right? You know there is a

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:16.800
<v Speaker 4>difference between activity and progress, absolutely right, you know, And

0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 4>and so what are the objectives what we're trying to

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 4>make happen? So then when we leave from here, go

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:22.840
<v Speaker 4>go to the beach, go wherever you're gonna be. But

0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 4>now I understand, okay, this is.

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>What you're trying to ask, something that you want.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's going to be at the convenience you hopefully y'all

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 4>coming back. I mean I.

0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Was there with the Tamika palm or Breonna tails, and

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the beauty of what you have created,

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>because the AG was on in the morning or both ags, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, well, first of all, obviously our age

0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 1>tis James, nothing but love and respect for her. And

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I said, I was at an event, an event this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the speaker and Tish was there, so the

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<v Speaker 1>room I was like, you know, I love you, Tish

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:59.319
<v Speaker 1>and whatever, even though sometimes I'm outside your office protesting

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:02.680
<v Speaker 1>but I still love you. It's just all about accountability

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>because Tish, again, that's in the circle, right, and we've

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:09.200
<v Speaker 1>had to protest. You would be doing.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit. It was a minute you were getting legs.

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Because y'all was in that compromise thing. There was an

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<v Speaker 1>issue which was raised the age in New York State,

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<v Speaker 1>one of.

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<v Speaker 4>The most significant wins had justice.

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<v Speaker 1>I s I was getting ready to get into it

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<v Speaker 1>because I have to shout out my brother, attorney Angelo Pinto,

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:32.359
<v Speaker 1>who was helping to lead the campaign to raise the age.

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 1>New York and North Carolina were only two states left

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in the entire United States of America that prosecuted fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen euros sixteen up to sixteen as adults adult

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:50.440
<v Speaker 1>for any no matter what. And so this particular evening

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<v Speaker 1>the bill was on the floor, we thought we had

0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 1>to vote somehow another people started wavering. I don't care

0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 1>what anybody says. You may not agree with this, But

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Cuomo, he was he's y'all saw him on TV

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>doing COVID. That was nice. But he's very much like

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Rudy Giuliani because after nine to eleven, Giuliani was on

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 1>TV every day. He became America's mayor because he helped

0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>to lead through a disaster, and people felt the same

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 1>way about Andrew Cuomo. But the truth of the matter

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:21.399
<v Speaker 1>is that while we were trying to get raizy Ah

0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:24.360
<v Speaker 1>and other things done, Cuomo was broken and deals with

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the Republicans that would would harm would have harmed us,

0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and which caused you all into a compromise position. And

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<v Speaker 1>so Michael blake.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's important the the because we weren't compromising on

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<v Speaker 4>raizy Age with Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I know that I'm saying that the way in

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<v Speaker 1>which he split.

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:46.080
<v Speaker 4>The he split some folks. Yes, let's be real clear

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 4>about this.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, because I am not saying that you were.

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:51.600
<v Speaker 4>But I think it's point because this goes back to

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:53.879
<v Speaker 4>the democracy conversation that someone would have walked away from

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 4>this interview or all of y'all were getting down with that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I'm going to finish my point right. And

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 1>so we had the votes. Everything was good, and then

0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:05.880
<v Speaker 1>there were people who started wavering. And as a result

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of folks wavering, I'm on the telephone with Michael and

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:11.879
<v Speaker 1>he's not telling me that he can make them do it,

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 1>make them vote in our favor, Like you're like, I

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know, this person is acting crazy. Call so and

0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:21.520
<v Speaker 1>so's office and I'm like, Michael, you go in there,

0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 1>do whatever you need to do and come out with

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 1>an affirmative. And you were like, Hey, I'm telling you

0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 1>so and so We're not gonna put them on blast today.

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 1>They acting they were with us, and so we got

0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:35.600
<v Speaker 1>frustrated and we said, oh, you know what, we know

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>what it is. We're on the telephone. The telephone doesn't

0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 1>work in these situations. It is now eleven o'clock at night,

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to get in the car, and we

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 1>rented a van at night and packed it up to

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:50.080
<v Speaker 1>come up there and help you all. I'm not saying

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that you were wavering. I'm saying that you needed help

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:56.160
<v Speaker 1>because you needed a little backup. So we came in

0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 1>for reinforcement. It's just the way we came in. It

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 1>may have made you feel a little like we was

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to push you around too, but you just needed it.

0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 1>You needed help.

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 4>You were tired of inside outside again. You know, appreciated mice.

0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 1>But it worked because we did get raised the age

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>paths and you did some hell, you did a hell

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 1>of a job making that happen. Brian Benjamin was up

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 1>there with you and so many others to to ensure.

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 4>That all deserves the credit because he was the lead

0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:27.280
<v Speaker 4>on that show. It was people didn't give him the

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 4>credit that he deserves.

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 1>That's true. But you know the people that was talking

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:34.640
<v Speaker 1>to the people I got you were you and Michael

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and others like you and Andrews to a Cousins.

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<v Speaker 4>So the CONVENI yeah, we want you to pull up

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 4>everybody August twelve to fifteenth on the vineyard. Uh, stay

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:47.560
<v Speaker 4>connected to us Chiro's Democracy project. You want to see

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 4>some things that it's going to drop this year. We

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:54.520
<v Speaker 4>want to be that other force out here around democracy.

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 4>And you said something earlier on why I created Kiros

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 4>in the way I did. I had not seen a

0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:08.240
<v Speaker 4>space where all of us, regardless of industry and background,

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:09.680
<v Speaker 4>could rock with each other.

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 1>It's some Republicans that's up in there too.

0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:13.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, if you if you you got good

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:16.320
<v Speaker 4>common sense, I want you in my space. How are

0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 4>you part of trying to build something beyond your organization

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 4>because we need something different and that's what we want

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 4>to be. But they just go to our dash. Chiros

0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:29.120
<v Speaker 4>dot com and you can see everything we got going.

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<v Speaker 4>We appreciate you.

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:32.960
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you so much being with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to our brother Michael Blake.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was a lot more that I wanted to, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, I know, that's why I got my little one

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<v Speaker 3>or two questions I got out the way because you

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<v Speaker 3>was you.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a lot of good questions, but I really wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted people to hear from him. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he and I talk about discuss these issues all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think he did a good job of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, speak clear. He's a black man first,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's also a power broken Democratic Party, so we

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we get to hear his perspective, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we all. I don't know anybody who's really

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention, who's not concerned about the direction we're traveling

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<v Speaker 1>in as a nation. And there is a such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as worse. So when people say I'm at my words,

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<v Speaker 1>no we're not. We're not at ours, but we could

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<v Speaker 1>certainly be. And it's not far away like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of people being deported for protesting. I know, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't do that, and then I thought about it

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<v Speaker 1>and was like she like, you know what he could do,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when he got Marjorie Tailor built back whatever stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what she calls her shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>Jasmin Crockett, who I also would like to see vote

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<v Speaker 1>differently as it relates to Gaza. But you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge everybody. I'm holding them all accountable. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even care anymore. However, you know, Jasmine has been up

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<v Speaker 1>there having to really like let people know to put

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<v Speaker 1>some respect on her name for real, on the serious side,

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<v Speaker 1>and respect, not not like on the we up here

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<v Speaker 1>at work, but like on some I hate to have

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<v Speaker 1>to actually go old school on my block on you

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<v Speaker 1>put some respect on my name now.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to, because you know some people only respect disrespect. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also which they don't like, highly.

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<v Speaker 3>Intelligent and educated, and she broke down. I love the

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<v Speaker 3>way she broke down.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that came from snapping. Oh yeah, those words came

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<v Speaker 1>from growing up in a family where they snap on

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<v Speaker 1>you and you got to snap back and you better know.

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<v Speaker 4>What you're talking about better.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's very she's a highly intelligent woman, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that. Marjorie Taylor Green is not She's not

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<v Speaker 1>the sharpest knife in the draw. She is like the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of them. She's a clown and a clown show.

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<v Speaker 1>They know how to market themselves, but they're not actually

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't have much, which brings me to my.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get it today, just to be speaking about

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<v Speaker 3>Gaza and you know, talking about what happened in Raeford

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<v Speaker 3>the other day, my condolences goes out. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>just get tired of keep saying that. But it's like

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you just feel like what else can you say?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, just watching innocent people babies beheaded and burning,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just just like crazy. So I post on my

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<v Speaker 3>page and I'm just so tired o the what about

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<v Speaker 3>Congo people? Because if you, if you are authentically coming

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<v Speaker 3>to me about Congo, because I go to they pages

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<v Speaker 3>when they say that, right, I go and I never

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<v Speaker 3>see one post about the Congo, right, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't get why you so concerned because we did a

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<v Speaker 3>whole show about.

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<v Speaker 1>The Conan, well, we did about.

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<v Speaker 2>Haiti, about Haiti, and we talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>Working on trying to get one done and Congo. You

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<v Speaker 1>just can't just have any and everybody like, like, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why we can speak to Palestine the way that

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<v Speaker 1>we can and the way that we do is because

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<v Speaker 1>we've been there and we with our own eyes. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not something that information.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly And so for me, I just don't get why

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<v Speaker 3>we have the people that what about Congo people, and

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<v Speaker 3>why they try to use that as something to diminish

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on in Palestine. Like both things are true.

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<v Speaker 3>What's happening in Congo is a thing. What's happening in

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<v Speaker 3>Palestine is a thing. So we speak about we speak

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<v Speaker 3>about Congo and we can speak about Palestin at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time. I just don't understand why we feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we have to compare.

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<v Speaker 1>One has to be oppression Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't want to be involved in oppression Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want you to come to page with depression

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<v Speaker 3>all of this. I want you, if you feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the need while I'm speaking about what's going on in

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<v Speaker 3>Gaza right now, if you feel the need to speak

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<v Speaker 3>about the Congo, go to your page and talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the Congo and I and I hope you do, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's gonna be times that I speak about the Congo.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna it may be visuals that I see that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that trigger me about the Congo, and I

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<v Speaker 3>come to my page and I'm gonna speak about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't need somebody to come there and say,

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<v Speaker 2>what about Palestine? What about Chicago.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like shit is fucked up, Like we know that

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<v Speaker 3>shit is fucked up. But when I'm utilizing my platform

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<v Speaker 3>to highlight something that I deem a genocide at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>don't come there and tell me what about something else?

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't even understand why somebody thinks that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to especially our people, us as black people,

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<v Speaker 3>we know what it's like to be oppressed, we know

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<v Speaker 3>what it's like to be you know, to experience with genocide.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like we have a history of that. So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that even it makes sense for us to

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<v Speaker 3>utilize our voice to try to diminish it happening to

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else. We should understand that these people should be

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<v Speaker 3>the allies that we utilize, because we understand firsthand that

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<v Speaker 3>when they come for you at the daytime, they come

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<v Speaker 3>for us at the nighttime.

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<v Speaker 4>So please please.

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<v Speaker 3>Try to do better. Don't tell me I understand that

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on in the Congo is it is hideous.

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<v Speaker 3>So I understand that, but please stop utilizing your voice

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<v Speaker 3>to try to diminish somebody else's struct.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know the pot you know, you and I

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<v Speaker 1>we have to have this conversation once a week because

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<v Speaker 1>evidently you don't get it, and I have to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to You're saying, like, as black people, we understand, so

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<v Speaker 1>why do we do this? And that most of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are on your page talking are not even

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<v Speaker 1>black people. They are trones, they are paid provocateurs. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure why at this point enough of us

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand that this whole thing about, especially as elections

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<v Speaker 1>get closer and in this situation where you have an

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<v Speaker 1>actor like Israel in the midst of the Congo, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course what's happening to the Palestinian people. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you really if you do your research and you really

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<v Speaker 1>read up and learn, which is what I've been doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Hence the fact that I'm not going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to sit here like I can tell you about streets

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<v Speaker 1>in Palestine. I can tell you about tactics and things

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw the smell of it. I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to people's homes that had elderly people who

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<v Speaker 1>been living in a home for hundreds and hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>Their family has had this same home, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, a settler shows up, a Jewish settler shows

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<v Speaker 1>up and says they gotta leave, and then the government

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<v Speaker 1>will help put these people out of their ancestral home. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I saw it, but with the congo, I have

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<v Speaker 1>not actually witnessed it. I would be speaking only from

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<v Speaker 1>what I've read and what someone else has told me.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what I try to do instead, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I believe is the most powerful way for

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<v Speaker 1>me to use my uneducated voice is one to become educated,

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<v Speaker 1>and then second to let my platform be used by

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<v Speaker 1>those who do know. And so I've partnered with other

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<v Speaker 1>individuals who do know, and they use my page anytime

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<v Speaker 1>they want me to post something. I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say anytime, because once or twice I look at

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<v Speaker 1>things and I don't really understand it. So I'm careful

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<v Speaker 1>about how I collaborate with people. But for the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the time, I allowed them to collaborate

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<v Speaker 1>on my page then and use my platform to express

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<v Speaker 1>the many different complexities of what's happening in the Sudan

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<v Speaker 1>and Congo and Haiti, and they also talk by paltime.

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<v Speaker 1>So with that being said, what I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>know is that with an actor like Israel at play here,

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<v Speaker 1>who attempts to brainwash and mislead people all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>they use the media all the time to try to

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<v Speaker 1>manipulate people's understanding of not what's happening since October seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>but what has been happening since nineteen forty eight. They

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<v Speaker 1>are very very They used to be good at it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's blown up now. Everybody can see the veil

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<v Speaker 1>is down right. And so when you have them involved

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<v Speaker 1>even in the Congo and they're in Palestine and then

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<v Speaker 1>an election is also coming, you can imagine that there

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<v Speaker 1>are people working together behind the scenes to go into

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<v Speaker 1>your comments, my comments, and everywhere else and cause division

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<v Speaker 1>and dissension. So they're not even real people. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of them is just in they mama's basement,

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<v Speaker 1>idiots that have nothing, no life, no nothing. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when they find something to help them be contrarian, then

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<v Speaker 1>they use that because that's their talking point. If you

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<v Speaker 1>ask them to tell you about that, you should say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go live and talk about what you know about

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<v Speaker 1>the Congo right now. I bet you they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the information.

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<v Speaker 3>I know they don't because they never say anything. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>be like, well, show me where you've posted about it,

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<v Speaker 3>show me the information that you have that I don't have,

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<v Speaker 3>and they'd be like, oh, it's out there. You're just

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<v Speaker 3>not looking for whatever. Okay, there we go. Well with

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<v Speaker 3>that said brings us to the end of another Dope episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to our brother Michael Blake for his education

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<v Speaker 3>on the the political system and he broke it down

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<v Speaker 3>how you know laws get made, and he broke us

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<v Speaker 3>down to actually what he does and how we need

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<v Speaker 3>to be utilizing our voices in our platforms to transform

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<v Speaker 3>this nation. So shout out to Michael Blake. Make sure

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