1 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Good afternoons, Sweet world, and welcome to the No Dungks 2 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's still Thursday, February eighth, 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. We're live on YouTube, kicking it with 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: y'all as we make our way up to the NBA 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: trade deadline buzzer at three pm Eastern. It's two twelve 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: right now. If you're following along, I'm g Skeets hunkered 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: down here in the Classic Factory, smells like Chick fil 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: A and farts, and alongside of me as always Tass. 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: Melice, glad you're smelling. Is working. It's working. 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: I still got my senses next to him. It's the 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: beard one in Tap Sha hot Boy track. Kirby Hey 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: Yo over yonder. We got two super producers, JD and 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Eshua Kid. Hey, y'all do it? Got two of them 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: working over there, and we still won't have lower thirds 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: on the show. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. And 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: also here in studio ripping off trade board graphics like 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: it's his job. 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: At least I'm only it's Jerome Chain. 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got the whole crew here. We've been 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory for a while, and we're going 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: loopy because the slop. It's just trickling in all. 22 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: Day long, these nasty words. 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: What firts and slops and. 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: Trickling, trickling. I don't know. I got two men around 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: me doing some wild things back here. 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: I do have a crazy thing going out of my computer. 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. I don't know, but 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 3: it sounds like it's been six dudes stuck in a 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: garage all day. 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has been. It's exactly what it's been. Thanks 31 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: everybody for joining us live once again here on YouTube. 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Take a second hit the like button. Make sure you 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: subscribe podcast listeners. If this finds its way to you 34 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: a little bit later, leave your boys a five star 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: rating and review. So we already did a show this morning, 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: talked about yesterday's minor moves, and then some trades that 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: were happening while we were live on the air in 38 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: the am. We'll get to those a little bit later 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: in this one, but we've had I don't know another five, six, 40 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: seven somewhat small trades still go down over the last 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: couple hours. And let's start with the Dallas Mavericks, who 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: had two deals that probably included up to this point, 43 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: the biggest names, or some of the biggest names. The 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: big one was the Mavericks getting the keys to the 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: Chevy tracks. Baby, that's right. PJ. Washington and two second 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: round picks are going to Dallas in exchange for Grant Williams, 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: Seth Curry and a top two protected twenty twenty seven 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: first round pick. And look at those two producers coming 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: through with the lower thirds in my face stick it Skeetz, 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: So yes, there it is. Oh my god, Jerome putting 51 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: me in my tracks there on the gas with your car. 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: The photo of you and your car here. As we 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: talked about PJ. Washington, you said the biggest names I 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: don't know about that. I don't know about PJ. Washington 55 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: be the biggest. 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: Names today traded player wise, talented one. 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: Give me a bowie, m Bugdanovish. I think the Knicks 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: are bigger winners. And this is a big question mark 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: for me. PJ. Washington, known as a three and D guy, 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: has not been all that good at it recently. That's 61 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 2: the biggest thing they gave up about Grant Williams here, 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: and they gave up a first round pick that's only 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: top two protected in twenty seven. Yeah, whatever, Who knows 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: what the Maps are going to become without Luca possibly, 65 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: who knows what it'll be in twenty twenty seven. I 66 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: think the Hornets did pretty good, pretty well on this one, 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: but just because PJ just hasn't been an incredible shooter 68 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: this year thirty two for three, last year thirty five 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: from three. He seems to be a second, second guy, 70 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: secondary complimentary guy that's been all right throughout his career, 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: and obviously Grant William's getting burned on the defensive end, 72 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: so they go and get PJ. Washington, who's a little 73 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: bit taller. I don't know if this is going to 74 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: work all that. Yeah, Grant Williams is short, but that 75 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: was a quick run for Grant Williams. They just got 76 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: him before this season. They said, all right, you're out 77 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: of here for PJ Washington essentially, and. 78 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: I think they traded a pick swap to get Grant 79 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: Williams from the Celtics and then are now paying another 80 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: first round draft pick to get off Grant Williams and 81 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: bring in PJ. Washington, who, like tass says, can be 82 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: a helpful player. But you got to see him on 83 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: the right night. The night when he's hitting threes, he 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: looks like a guy who's going to help you out, 85 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: and the other nights it's like, if you're not hitting 86 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: threes and you're not playing D, are you really a 87 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: three and D player? But I guess they just wanted 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: somebody besides Grant Williams is what it kind of comes 89 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: down to. So PJ. Washington one of the better names 90 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: out there right now to get it, and at least 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: it shows Luca we're trying. They have traded a whole 92 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: bunch of their future away for role players and centers 93 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: and guys who can move the needle a tiny, tiny bit. 94 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: But uh, if I'm a Mavericks fan, the Grant Williams 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: experience have not been good to me, I don't think. 96 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: But for the Hornets, I think this is nice getting 97 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: a first round pick because who knows what the Mavericks 98 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: will be in twenty twenty seven. And Grant Williams apparently 99 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: was talking with the Hornets over the summer as well. 100 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: It's potentially a team that he could join there, so 101 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: maybe he'll have a better run where he'll have a 102 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: lot of shots available to him. 103 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Yes, and Seth Curry gets to play in front of 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Dad don't Curry there on the broadcast. 105 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, there will be good nights for PJ. Washington, that's 106 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: for sure. He's averaged a block per game throughout his career, 107 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: which is surprising. But he can play three, four, five defensively. 108 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: But I'm not totally sold on this quite yet. But 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: maybe you're the biggest. 110 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: Hold on PJ. Washington actually being a better basketball player 111 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: than Grant Williams is really what you're. 112 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: Getting well at times, and they got a first round 113 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: pick for him. That's a good yet for Paul Jermaine 114 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: Washington Junior full name, because I was unaware of that 115 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: until today. 116 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: PJ. Washington going to Dallas, Well, that wasn't the only 117 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: thing that they did earlier today on deadline day. They 118 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: also acquired Daniel Gafford. 119 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: That's a good one from the. 120 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: Wizards for Rashawn Holmes and draft compensation we have there, 121 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: so yeah, Gafford for Holmes really So yeah, PJ. Washington 122 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: and gafferd these are you know, trying to address. I 123 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: guess you know they're perimeter in bigs behind Derek Lively 124 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: the second who is their starting center? What do you 125 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: think about this? TK? 126 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: I think that Daniel Gafford is better than Rashawn Holmes, 127 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: but I don't really think he solves any issues for 128 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: the Dallas Mavericks. He plays the exact same way as 129 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: Derek Lively, but he's obviously not going to be as 130 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 3: good at it, so he'll be coming off the bench. 131 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: I think a big issue for the Dallas Mavericks his 132 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: defensive rebounding. They're twenty sixth in the league in defensive rebounding. 133 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: Gafford is pretty poor on the glass, as is PJ. Washington, 134 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: so they're not really winning there. But if you can 135 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: catch lobs, you can play alongside Luka Doncic is what 136 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: it comes down to. So Gafford, I think he's top 137 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: ten in the league in dunks playing on a team 138 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: that has average point guards. If you're being generous, he 139 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: will probably finish in the top ten in dunks because 140 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: I think Lively is seventh, yeah, and Gafford is like 141 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: ninth or something like that. So lob cidy baby. 142 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Master is seriously going forward here with Gafford 143 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: and PJ and paying a lot for them. This draft compensation, 144 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: we don't know exactly what it is at this point, 145 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: but Gafford signed through two more years of making thirteen 146 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: and fourteen mil. So, yes, is he better than Rashaun 147 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 2: Holmes for sure, and he is a pretty good finisher 148 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: at the rim as Trey was saying, he finished pretty 149 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: well for Tys Jones lobs one point excuse me, one 150 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: point four to three points possession as a role man 151 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: is damn good. His rebounds have gotten better. On the 152 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: defensive end, they need a big guy. Yeah, he is 153 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: amazing at that end, but he is good. They just 154 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: need a center. Frankly, and Dallas's record with Lively twenty 155 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: two and fourteen without him six and nine, So they 156 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: just need help and I think he will. He will 157 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: help in that regard. 158 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, Kuzmas. He looks like he's not going 159 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: to be traded. I know there's forty minutes left here 160 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: before the actual deadline hits. I think the thinking is 161 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna draw still interests come if the Wizards hold 162 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: on to him from multiple teams, in part because he 163 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: does have a pretty you know, manageable contract that descends 164 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: as we go. We went over the other day. It 165 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: actually gets, you know, less and less as it moves forward, 166 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: so that could be enticing to some teams. But yeah, 167 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: it looks like Kyle Kuzma, who we had on the graphic, 168 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: will not likely be traded here. We did say though 169 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: this morning, the most realistic guys to put on the 170 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: trade deadline graphic would be Grant Williams, at least one 171 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: of the MAVs guys, because we thought they would be 172 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: doing something. We said, Royce O'Neill. Check. 173 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: And what was the other one, We said, Bruce Brown. 174 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: Bruce Brown. Now that's the one that we're still waiting on. 175 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: No Bruce news right now. But the Knicks did trade 176 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: for Bogdanovic and Burks, Aleg Berks and Boyan Bogdanovitch going 177 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: to New York for a bunch of guys led by 178 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: Quinton Grimes. That's the key piece here for Detroit. And 179 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: then Malachai Flynn and Foignier and we got Ryan Art 180 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Diako and two future second round picks. So a lot, 181 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts here. I know the Pistons 182 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: have been busy like waving guys left and right here 183 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: today two Joe Harris, Killian Hayes. Who else am I forgetting? 184 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: There's someone else? They let go? Dan Wallhouse, that's right, Yeah, yes, Yeah, 185 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: they just acquired him and he's gone. But you said 186 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: it already. You liked this move from New York because 187 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: you're a big fan of Bogdanovich. You think this is 188 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: like the best player at least moved so far. 189 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe I'm being subjective here because I love what 190 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: the Knicks are and how hard they work, and the 191 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: Mavericks haven't really established themselves as that. The Knicks just 192 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: polished their edges a little bit better here with Boem Bogdanovic, 193 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: who can be a score late in games. A few 194 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: weeks ago, he had a performance for the Pistons where 195 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: he was given the ball at the end of the 196 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: fourth quarter over and over and over and he had 197 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: thirty three point night. Yeah, I was against the Hornets, 198 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: but that doesn't matter. He was giving the ball over 199 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: and over and over, and they went offense for defense 200 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: with him. They saw Thompson into the game while he 201 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 2: took over at the floor on the floor at the 202 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: other end, Perfect Nicks, Perfect Knicks recipe. The Knicks have 203 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: a lot of defensive guys. The boy on who said 204 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: forty point games in his career can come off the 205 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: bench and be that guy late in games. And also 206 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: Alec Burks helps out because Jalen Brunson at times has 207 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: to do so much for this team. I think he 208 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: just helps be a backup guard. They just need guys 209 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: to eat minutes. As Tibbs gives a lot of minutes 210 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: to Jalen Brunson induced bride as their backup point guard, 211 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: I think Alec Burks just gives a little bit. There's 212 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: a little bit of rest for Jalen Brunson, which is 213 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: a guy who's gonna play so much, but he plays 214 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: through everything because he's tough as nails. So yeah, I 215 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: think the Knicks just got smarter on the edges a 216 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: little bit. Both guys are going to be coming off 217 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: the bench, but both capable players. 218 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Do you like it as much as tass Oh? 219 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely. My main concern is TIBs playing Alec Burks too much, 220 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: like that'll be the problem if he starts playing him 221 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: a lot over McBride, which you know it probably will 222 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: be an offensive defense sort of thing. But when it 223 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: comes down to it, he should be on the bench 224 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: at the end of these games, whereas Bogdanovic maybe he's 225 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: in the closing lineups and he definitely will be. While 226 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: Julius Randall was out. We just saw that game against 227 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: the Lakers when they double team Jalen Brunson the entire 228 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: second half and the Knicks could get nothing going offensively 229 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 3: because Randall was out and Ojiannaobi continues to be out 230 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: and we don't really know when he's coming back. It 231 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: seems like his injury is getting worse the more he 232 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: sits on the bench right now for the Knicks. So 233 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: with Grimes out of the rotation and they don't want 234 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: to pay him, I think this is great to be 235 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: able to get a couple of guys who are absolutely 236 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: gonna be in the rotation for the Knicks. They both 237 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: bomb threes, which is kind of one of the Knicks 238 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: secret sauces. They shoot a lot of threes if you're 239 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 3: not Brunson or Randall or one of the big guys 240 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: who catches dumps. So this is great stuff for them. 241 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: They've added like four rotation players during the transaction periods here, 242 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: and they still have all their first round picks right 243 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: Leon's cooking. 244 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: That's a good point. I think the Knicks are going 245 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: to be when you get to tomorrow's podcasts and columns 246 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: and articles and all that, winners and losers of the 247 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: trade deadline, and you consider the og move and the 248 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: prior moves TK. Like you said, I think the Knicks 249 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: will be on a lot of people's winners list for 250 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: some of these moves where they didn't have to give 251 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: up any first round picks. 252 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they get a guy in Bogdanovic who I 253 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: said a few weeks ago he was their guy to 254 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: go to at the end of the games. Recently has 255 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: had games of six threes, four to threes, another one 256 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: with four threes. The guy can score in this league. 257 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: He's lost a tiny bit of step on the defensive end. 258 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: He ain't that same guy who is guarding Lebron James 259 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, the seven round seven game series Pacers 260 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: and the Cavs. Way back when he was the guy, 261 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: he was a really good playoff performer. The Pistons held 262 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: on to him, and held on to him, and held 263 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: on to him finally until this day when a lot 264 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 2: of his money is unguaranteed next year. They've finally given 265 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: up a little bit. They've given up on Killian Hayes, 266 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: who started a lot this season. The Pistons are going 267 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: through one here where they're finally changing their. 268 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: Roster except their young stars. 269 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they get Quentin Grimes in this one, who was 270 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 2: a three and D guy who should help out a 271 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: little bit. But yeah, I'm glad Jade and Ivy's playing 272 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: on that team because Killian Hayes was playing a lot. 273 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: Not bad for Bogdanovitch and Burks to be on a 274 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: seven win team get traded today to a team near 275 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: the top of the Eastern Conference to go play in 276 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden. You know, people are obviously very excited 277 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: about this team, and rightfully so, and they could play 278 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: a part, like they're gonna they're gonna get an opportunity, 279 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: especially with the injuries. That's the other part. Maybe they're 280 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: like Nicks are looking at this like, okay, yeah, they 281 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 1: might help in a playoff series, but we want to 282 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: have home court advantage. We want to keep pace with 283 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: the Cavs and the Bucks if we can. We have 284 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: the main guys that are banged up or injured, especially 285 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: with Randall and Og, and Bogdanovitch could at least slot 286 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: into those positions and help. 287 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Og injury a little scary that he's missed 288 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: a six straight game with elbow problems. He missed games 289 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: with the Raptors as well, like fifteen last year. That 290 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: was a good year because it was thirty four of 291 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: the year before that, twenty nine year before that. So 292 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: he does miss miss a lot of time. But hopefully 293 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: those elbow spurs as we're getting getting. 294 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: Hurd wouldn't want to have spurs in my elbows, only 295 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: on my heels from the piston side. The thing I 296 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: do like them getting Grimes. I think he's like a 297 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: solid player for them to pick up. He gives you 298 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: something on the defensive end, which they're absolutely gonna need. 299 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: He can shoot it from outside, and he doesn't require 300 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: the ball all that often. So Caid can cook a 301 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: little bit. Ivy can cook as well. But I mean, 302 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: they're basically getting back two future second round picks here 303 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: for Bogdanovich, when theoretically they could have gotten two first 304 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: round picks last year. Which would you rather have Quentin 305 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: Grimes in two seconds or two first round picks? I 306 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: would prefer the picks myself, But that's just not how 307 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: Troy Weaver does it. He doesn't like these picks. Yeah, 308 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: I know them, they're rebuilding. But if you can get 309 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: a veteran Troy Weaver will take your veteran. 310 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you didn't get a first round pick like 311 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: the Charlotte Hornets did, for instance, it would have been 312 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: nice to get yeah, first round pick instead of these 313 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: second round picks. And I don't want to compare the 314 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: Pistons to the Knicks, but as you just said about 315 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: Quentin Grimes pulling out the floor a little bit, even 316 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: Fontechio coming in to space out two point land for 317 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: those guys, for Kate Conningham and Jade and Ivy. Mainly 318 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: that's what the Knicks do too, with ogn and Obi 319 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: and here with guys like Boyan Bogdanovich, they need space 320 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: for Randall and obviously Jaylen Brunson. It helps. And so 321 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: maybe the Pistons are going in a different route, who knows, 322 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: but the Knicks are definitely going at different Y're they're 323 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: looking good. 324 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: The Raptors were busy today. We obviously talked about Kelly 325 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: Linok making his way up to Toronto on our morning show. 326 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: Well they weren't done. They have traded Dennis Shrewder to 327 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: the Nets for Spencer Dinwitty and Thtius Young. No thought 328 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: he's young of course going to the nets, you know, 329 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot happening here today. You know, I already 330 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: screwed up draft picks going to one team. You know, look, 331 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: it happens. But the core of this is Shrewder for Dinwitty. 332 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: What is Toronto doing today? I'm a little with this. 333 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: One's specifically Spencer Dinwiddie. He's an expiring contract right while 334 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: Shuder signed through next season. The Nets desperately need a 335 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: point guard and Shrewd is more of a point guard 336 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: than Spencer DINWITTI sort it sort of makes sense because 337 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: Ben Simmons has played nine games this season. He's missing 338 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: every second game since he's been back, not only the 339 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: back injury, but knee injuries, so it sort of makes 340 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: sense for the Reps. It's financial to me. You may 341 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: just get off Spencer Dinwiddie's contract. We can get the money. 342 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: He's going to go to IQ too quickly. 343 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and Kelly Olinick as well. I know people 344 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: love the Kelly Olinick uh grab, but also expiring, so 345 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: they it really count him. 346 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: They trade a first round pick for him. 347 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: I think that they like o Chaia Baji in this one. 348 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: They traded Auto Porter junior. Yeah, we can get to 349 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: that one. Later, but it's Auto Porter Junior Kyle Lewis 350 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: and a late first round pick for Kelly Olinick and 351 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: Oshaia Baji. Really it comes down to how good is 352 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: Manual quickly going to be for this team to go 353 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: along with Barnes. That's what That's what it's gonna come 354 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: come down to quickly. It's got to be good next 355 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: season and running a team. 356 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: Frankly, Yeah, the roster right now for the Raptors, they 357 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: only have seven players in her contract next season. R 358 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: J Barrett, Scottie Barnes, Pearl Grady, Dick Bouchet is still there, 359 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: Jalen McDaniels, Abajie as you said, coming over from Utah, 360 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: and then Bruce Brown has a teen option and they're 361 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: gonna likely re sign quickly Analynik, like TK said, they 362 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: probably will after trading a first round pick for him. 363 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: So you're up to ten there. But yeah, strange move. 364 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Nets didn't want in winning anymore. 365 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: That was no secret. They were like, anybody want Dinwitty, 366 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: we do not want him here. And there were reports 367 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: going around that he was like basically mailing it in 368 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: out there. 369 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: Quiet quitting, Yeah, quiet quitting. 370 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: So they get true to here. But what do you 371 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: think about the Raptors doing this and the Net's getting shooter. 372 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: The Raptors are gonna have a chance at moving into 373 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: the top six. I think they're gonna be bad. I 374 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: mean they're bad right now. Anyways, two and twelve in 375 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 3: their last fourteen Dinwitty is a downgrade from shrewder. I mean, 376 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 3: I don't know how much of a downgrade. I think 377 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: the biggest downgrade is probably in the locker room. He's 378 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 3: been traded at the last three deadlines. Din. What he 379 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: has seems to wear out is welcome pretty quickly. I 380 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: don't know if I don't really have a lot of 381 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 3: takes on this one. But the Raptors, if the point 382 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: is to be bad, they're doing a good job. Yeah, 383 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: but that's why it's confusing to bring in old Linock 384 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: and trade as first round pick for him. That's the 385 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: confusing thing. 386 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I don't know how hot they are about 387 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: Kelly Oldick. Really why did they trade? 388 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: So he thinks is for Abaja. 389 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: Boji is part of that deal as well. It's a 390 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: late first round pick. They're taking a chance on a Boji, 391 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: a guy who's been in the league. This is a 392 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: second year. He's an extremely athletic guy. For Kelly, Oh, 393 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: would I think they'd rather have him than Kelly Olnick, 394 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: who is he's getting old. Obviously he'd be good. You know, 395 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 2: he'll be at the elbow and he'll set you up 396 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: and he'll set up the entire offense, which is good. 397 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 2: But really, what it comes down to, I think how 398 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: good this team is going to be is the guys 399 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 2: they got from the Knicks really to help out Barnes. 400 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: I'm not obviously it hasn't been fantastic. It has not 401 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: been fantastic as they sit here ty for the sixth 402 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: worst record in the league, which would be good because 403 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: they could hold on to that first round. 404 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Pick right which then rolls over to another year for 405 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: the Spurs, right with it if they obviously keep it, 406 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: so it's not like they're out of it and done 407 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: and dust it. But uh, yeah, two of their vet 408 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: guys going out today, Otto Porter Junior, Satty Young Kelly 409 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: when it comes back right now, So there is that. 410 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, Dinwitty in Toronto four now and Bruce Brown 411 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: is still there. But uh, you know, we're about thirty 412 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: minutes to the buzzer here. 413 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 2: Somebody sent a comment here on YouTube when we were 414 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: talking about o Chaibaji. He said, is ocha a word 415 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 2: for gross in Canada? How dare you? How dare you 416 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: insult the Raptors ridiculously bad record this season? Yeah, they're 417 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: not good. 418 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: Look the Raptors Messia Jerie, I guess and Bobby Webster 419 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: just like the Nigerian Canadian connection going on right now. 420 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: That's how they're building this team. You're either Canadian Rjie Barrett, Kelly, 421 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: olynnek Nigerian obaji U no before I mean we have 422 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: That's what they're cooking up there. It's all about family, 423 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: not building the team, build the family. It's very strange, 424 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: very strange. 425 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 3: Michael Grange said that the Raptors are targeting people who 426 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 3: would make Toronto their first choice, right right, They're gonna 427 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: have a lot of cap room. 428 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah this summer, lots of cap room. I think that's 429 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: what they like about Spencer Dinwity's contract the most, that 430 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: it comes off the books. 431 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a three way deal. I believe it's 432 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: our only three way deal of the day so far. 433 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: Oh god, well, it's a little confusing. 434 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: We know. 435 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: Royce O'Neil and David the Body Roddy are going to 436 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: the Suns and a bunch of guys at the end 437 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: of their roster. Watanabi, who I think is ending up 438 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: in Memphis met to bits Gap, I think Goodwin. You know, 439 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some draft capital moving around, but the 440 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: Grizzlies and the Nets involved here with the Suns in 441 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: a three way deal. But Royce O'Neill is the is 442 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: the I guess the key name from this. The Sun's 443 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: trading four guys for two that they think maybe we'll 444 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: have more of an impact as they sort of gear 445 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: up for a postseason run. TK geta started on this one. 446 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 3: If you have any takeaways, Look, all of those minimum 447 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: contract guys that the Sun signed over the summer turned 448 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: out to be minimum contract guys. None of them could 449 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: stick in the rotation despite getting quite a few shots 450 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: at it. Basically all of them. They all had their moments, 451 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 3: but the biggest thing here is that they were able 452 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: to turn into a guy who will probably stay in 453 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: the rotation in Royce O'Neil. He's an Oka shooter thirty 454 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: six percent this season from three to thirty eight percent 455 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: for his career. He's an Oka defender, so I think 456 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: he will at least get a shot on some of 457 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: the wings to save Booker from the wear and tear, 458 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: to save Kevin Durant from the wear and tear. He's 459 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: just a fine role player. And considering that the Suns 460 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: didn't have a ton of assets from a draft picks 461 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: standpoint or from a player contract standpoint, I think they 462 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: did a fine job. 463 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: Right the rotation. Obviously it's the big three up top. 464 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: Then Grayson Allen has had a good year than Eric 465 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: Gordon and Yusef Nurkic. Those six they're a lock. But 466 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: disappointed Utah Watson Abbie didn't become that guy for some reason, 467 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: didn't play under Frank Vocal all that much. But beyond 468 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: those top six, Royce O'Neil will automatically be a part 469 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: of it and finish games besides their big three, I 470 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: imagine at times, because just because he's a really good 471 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: defender no matter what. 472 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's obviously adding to like sort of their top 473 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: eight rotation, is what you're saying, And maybe even David 474 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: Roddy as well, and what to Nabi, Yeah, going back 475 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: to Memphis where it all started, right, sort of forget. 476 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: He was a Grizzly once upon a time, obviously made 477 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: his way to the Raptors as well. But yes, that's 478 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: the three way that we had today and then one 479 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: more that we know of right now. And he announced 480 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: it on his own podcast Twitter account, Patrick Beverley breaking 481 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: news today saying I'm being traded to the Bucks for 482 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: campaign and at twenty twenty seven second round pick. What 483 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: a flex to announce your own trade. I mean imagine 484 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: he was live doing a trade special like us and saying, 485 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: I got breaking news. 486 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 3: Here, step your game up. 487 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: I've been traded. But yeah, what do you think tk 488 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: BEV go into Milwaukee? 489 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: Great? Get? I think this is exactly what the Milwaukee 490 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: Bucks need. They had been indicating that they were looking 491 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: to move on from Cameron Payne heading into the trade deadline. 492 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: They gave up a twenty twenty seven second round pick. 493 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: Fine by me because Patrick Beverley, he's a DOWG. He 494 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: brings this podcast first and foremost, so he'll go head 495 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: to head with fanalytics. Is that still running through Joseph? 496 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: Who knows? But like Beverly, he elevates your team. His 497 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: tude pervades, and I think he's gonna make them a tougher, 498 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: meaner team. They need somebody who's gonna at least try 499 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: and guard the backcourt defensively like he will sub in 500 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: for Malik Beasley at times. I'm sure to be their 501 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: stopper Beverly. You know, I think the fact that his 502 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: strengths lie inn on ball defense makes him a little 503 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: bit of an overrated defender. But the attitude and like 504 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 3: the effort he gives it definitely like affects the rest 505 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: of the team, So that's cool. I do wonder how 506 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 3: him and Damian Lillard will get together, but like Beverly, 507 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: you hate him until he's on your team and then 508 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 3: it's all good. 509 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Damian Lillard has told Chris Haynes he 510 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: first off said, you know, sad to see campaign go 511 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: and all that we developed a good friendship. Quote though 512 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: this is Lollard speaking about Beverly. As for Pat, he 513 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: brings an edge and a defensive tenacity on the perimeter 514 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: that we need. There are not many players who bring 515 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: in on a nightly like him. I look forward to 516 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: working together. So yes, already putting what was in their past, 517 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: ye remaining there. So yeah, I'm with you. I like 518 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: this addition, This is sort of what they need a 519 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 1: little spark here, and he's you know, you're getting that 520 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: from Patrick Beverley. 521 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: They need some attitude, that's for sure. And we all 522 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: know that Doc really loves guys that used to play 523 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: for him. Hey yeah, play for him for three seasons 524 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: with the Clippers, So that sort of makes sense. Apparently 525 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: MPO really loves Patrick Beverley played that clip before we 526 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: came on today. How Pat on his podcast said that 527 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: Yannish you know, said I I love you dog, you 528 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: want to come to win, win a championship, come to Milwaukee. 529 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: That was I don't know how long ago. He said 530 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: that he didn't trade for him, but that's yeah, it helps. 531 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: They also didn't trust campaign a lot to be the 532 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: backup point guard, and uh yeah, I guess Pat Bef 533 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: is gonna have an opportunity here, that's for sure. 534 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: Definitely has played for a whole lot of teams over 535 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: the last you know, five or six years. He was 536 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: with the Clippers for a while, and then he bounced 537 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: to Minnesota, of course, and he was on the Lakers, 538 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: and he was on Your Bulls fourteen and nine, and 539 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: he was on your on the Sixers and now he's 540 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: on Milwaukee. A lot of teams here for pet Beev. 541 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm actually kind of surprised that the Sixers would trade him. 542 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 543 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's better than campaign for me. I mean, maybe 544 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: they wanted a little bit more scoring. Campaign is definitely 545 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: more offensively tilted. But I thought Beverly was kind of 546 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: locked in there with the Sixers. You know, he's always 547 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: wearing like a Phillies took and his his podcast. I 548 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 3: saw him walking with a Bryce Harper Jersey once upon 549 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: a time. I thought he was made for Philadelphia, but 550 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 3: apparently they wanted to get on the campaign campaign. 551 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: That's right, and maybe they're trying to get Kyle Lowry here, 552 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: that's exactly right. 553 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, in a bio situation, Yeah, that'll be feels like they. 554 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: Go home enjoy Philadelphia. Yeah, that would make sense. Actually, 555 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: our man, John Hollands, you're chiming in about the three 556 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 2: way trade and that Jordan Goodwin and Caiti Bates dop 557 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: are also going to Brooklyn. 558 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: They're going to Brooklyn. Yeah, Metwo is the one. We 559 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: don't know where he's landing at. Yes, is he going 560 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: to the Grizzlies or Nets. 561 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, good good. One was supposed to be good for 562 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: the Phoenix as a backup guard. That obviously didn't happen. Yeah, 563 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: they're just going to rely on Biale and Booker a 564 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: ton I guess. 565 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: Tony Jones of the Athletic is saying the Jazz are 566 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: likely good here at the deadline. That means Jordan Clarkson 567 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: is probably staying put because he was another name rumored 568 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: to be on the move. And then Kelly Eco of 569 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: the Athletic follows the Rockets. A few trade concepts are 570 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: quotes still alive, but bar ring a sudden change in 571 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: the final uh well, now twenty minutes or so, the 572 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: Rockets are leaning towards standing pat at the deadline as well, 573 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: So maybe the Jazz and the Rockets were done making moves. 574 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: Not that the Rockets even made a move today. 575 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they did the stevens Adams Steven Adams 576 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: trade right, Ye, But there wasn't that report not too 577 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: long ago that they were who were they in the mix. 578 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: For somebody good? It wasn't a zach Lavine, No, it 579 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: was a big name de Jon right know. 580 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: They were chasing people though that change Like em Udoka, 581 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: I want to make the playoffs. I've made it like 582 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: the last seven years. I was a coach or whatever 583 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: his claims were. Yah, I don't know who it was. 584 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Well, because Jalen Green's name was, Oh, you can maybe 585 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: get him if you give us the right. 586 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 3: A smart, smart move to slow play it. They didn't 587 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 3: need to really push all in on this at all. Oh, 588 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: Michael Bridges, that's what was. 589 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: Cal Bridges was the big name coming back to Houston. Yeah, 590 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: I'm kind of glad that Utah isn't selling. They selled 591 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: Simoni Fontecchio, but they did this last year when they 592 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: were five hundred. They traded my Calm, Jared Vanderbilt, Blik 593 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: Beasley and then they kind of fell off a little bit. 594 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna enjoy the race watching from afar as the 595 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: Western Conference standings have a race through eleven right now, 596 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: even twelve in the Houston Rockets. It's gonna be a 597 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 2: fight because the Jazz are tenth and then the Warriors 598 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: are just behind them. The Jazz are gonna stay good 599 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 2: now if they don't give up big parts here of 600 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: their deal. 601 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Okay, well, twenty minutes, let's stash. 602 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: Out Chaiabaji and Kelly Olinick. Hold on, I take that back, 603 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: but Kelly Olinick is a decent part which I has 604 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 2: not been playing a lot for them anyways. I think 605 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: they should still be Okay, that's all I gotta say. Okay, 606 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 2: that's okrre Yeah, let's move on. 607 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna take a break because we got twenty 608 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: minutes here before the actual three pm trade deadline buzzer. 609 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: But we're gonna stick around for you know, good thirty 610 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: minutes to an hour after that. Trades sometimes trickle in. 611 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: You wonder though, like are we sort of done? Because 612 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: they really did come Like we've had deadlines before where 613 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: all of this slop, all of these names would have 614 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: come in like a ten minute window. I'm like, whoa, 615 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: what's going on? But they came like in this weird 616 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: like every ten to fifteen minutes. It felt like there 617 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: was like a new sort of minor trade. So who knows, 618 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: maybe there's some still left out there. But we'll take 619 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: a break and when we come back, we'll either address 620 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: the new deals or some of the ones from this morning. 621 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, all right, we are still here. Twenty 622 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 1: twenty four NBA Trade Deadline Special. Thanks everybody joining us 623 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: live on YouTube. Hit the like button if you haven't subscribe. 624 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: If you haven't done that, we're live every day at 625 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: ten am Eastern. Here from the Classic Factory. I like 626 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: this tweet from Trey about an hour ago. Who he 627 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: played for? Type of trade deadline? Would a casual fan 628 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: know any player traded so far today? You said, Gordon Hayward? 629 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: Maybe today today no one would know Gordon Hayward. 630 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: The casual fan. Yeah. 631 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean some suggested Buddy Healed has a 632 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: knowable name. Wow. Yeah, sure, it depends on which mcaa 633 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: tournament you want, right, Yeah, he had a couple of 634 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: great games, I think, and of course Gordon went to 635 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: the championship game. But this is sick. I was only 636 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: at this point. 637 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It is, and we can't really be 638 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: all that shocked by it when you consider some of 639 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: the bigger deals, not that they were the biggest names 640 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: in the world, but like the Raptors doing all their moves. 641 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: Early household names like oh g An Andobi and Pascala 642 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: Delas weeks ago. 643 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know you said that, tongue in cheek. 644 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: At least Siakam is an all Endnadian household name. That's true, 645 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: that's true, very true. 646 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: But today, yeah, but does everybody know Kelly Olnik is 647 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: Canadian from Kamloops b C. 648 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: No, not many people know. I was wondering, you said 649 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: earlier on the morning podcast, Abaji, one of the most 650 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: handsome men in the NBA paired with Kelly Olnok maybe 651 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: on the other end of the spectrum, and I could 652 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: say that as an ugly Canadian. Actually yeah, but you know, 653 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: it's a weird, weird dynamic those two mister handsome and 654 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: mister mister horse, mister red, mister red if you will. 655 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: But anyway, that's what the raptors cut. 656 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: So we're gonna say, no, I got nothing interesting. I 657 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: was going to say. I was watching with my wife 658 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, and she saw Kelly oll 659 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: Nick with his headband and the hair flowing, and she said, 660 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: what's wrong with his hair? And I said, what do 661 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: You's wrong with his hair? That's how he wears his hair. 662 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: She said, no, no, that's not something is wrong with 663 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: his headband, combo with his hair. I said, come on, 664 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: he said, Canadian's a hockey boy has long hair. 665 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: BC. Guys, So what's your answer to the biggest oh, 666 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: the biggest name name traded today. 667 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: We've sat them all. I guess I don't think casual 668 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: fans know unless you're Bermudian. Maybe you know Buddy Healed, 669 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: that's about it. I don't think answer he's from the Bahamas. 670 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: Hair My is the answer Seth Curry because people would 671 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: maybe think it's Stephye did you say Steph Curry got traded? No? 672 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 3: No, no, Seth Curry. 673 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: He has a brother. Yeah, it might be that. 674 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: Well, I do have a tweet. There may be something 675 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: else happening hereach. This is This is a tweet from 676 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: Harrison Fagan who said that WOA says on ESPN that 677 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: the Hawks and Raptors are still discussing Johanta Murray and 678 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: Bruce Brown deals, respectively. Somebody responded to Harrison Fagan's tweet 679 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: for each other, and then Harrison Fagan said, I don't 680 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: think so. 681 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So the Hawks are still exploring Johntay Murray trades, 682 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: the Raptors are still exploring Bruce Brown trades. 683 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: We have fourteen minutes remaining, but the. 684 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: Spurs are trading Doug McDermott to the Pacers. You know what, 685 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: it's a big day for white guys in the NBA too, Man, 686 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: White guys are being untill like crazy today. There's so 687 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: many well wow, yeah, we've had well, there was a 688 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: bunch involved in the Knicks steel there to the Pistons. 689 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: We Gordon good Gordon himself. Now, Dougie, Does anyone have 690 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: an immediate reaction to Doug McDermott going to the Pacers. 691 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 3: I have a little bit of a reaction for you, skeets. Okay, 692 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: it actually plays well with the trade. We were maybe 693 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: going to talk about Buddy Healed going to the Sixers 694 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: from the Pacers, because since it happened, I've kind of 695 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: been thinking, why would the Pacers do this? They shoot threes. 696 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 3: Buddy Heal's a three point shooter replacement Doug McDermott. He's 697 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: not as good as Buddy, No, but he's going to 698 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: do the same thing, catch the ball and shoot it 699 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: as soon as he gets it. And they need a 700 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: guy who's just going to be a laser because nem 701 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: Hard isn't a great outside shooter, so they want to 702 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: keep some three point marksmanship around, I imagine, and if 703 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 3: Buddy's out of the picture, get Doug off the bench 704 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: shooting some threes. 705 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: Right, and the idea that Buddy's an expiring deal and 706 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: maybe they don't want to be the one giving him 707 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: a contract gets something in return, but sure they get 708 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: a little replacement shooter here. 709 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: And Buddy had permanently gone to the bench with the 710 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: Pacers since the Siakam acquisition and since Niesmith has been awesome, 711 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: it's been a different team Haliburton and Nie Smith and 712 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: the third guy there to pair with Siakim and Turner 713 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: has sometimes been nem hard. Sometimes they change it up. 714 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes they thrown a little Buddy in there. But they 715 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: also are going to play Bendic Mathern a lot coming 716 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: off the bench, so they've got a lot of guys. 717 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how this paceruteine finally get some 718 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: minutes together because Halburn has been injured even since they 719 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: got Siakam, so he's been playing some. This team is 720 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: good and Dougie he won't complain about minutes like Buddy 721 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: I think did a little bit. 722 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Doug McDermott. Yeah, barely playing for the 723 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: Spurs as it is like fifteen minutes a game. Still 724 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: shoots the ball great forty four percent from deep on 725 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: nearly four attempts per game and fifteen minutes. Obviously, let's 726 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,479 Speaker 1: it fly when he's out there, that's his role. 727 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, spurs pop. They don't play some guys Davante Graham, 728 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: Get him out there, guy, I can shoot. Somebody acquired 729 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: Davante A. Graham like they didn't start Jones, They didn't 730 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 2: start their backcourt like they should have at the beginning 731 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 2: of the line. 732 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: And speaking of three point shooters, I think we learned 733 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: today the final two guys in the three point contest 734 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: Overall Star weekend. It is Karl Anthony Towns. He's going 735 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: to get a chance to defend from two years ago. 736 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: And then Trey Young is the other name that's going 737 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: to be in that contest. Just got named an All Star, 738 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: of course, So yeah, those are the final two. It's 739 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: pretty good field when you add those two more. You 740 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: had two more All Stars to it a lot of 741 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: All Stars, not battle field. And you know Trey Young's 742 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: got starry range. That's right, that's true, Starr starry rage. 743 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: I also believe Jeremy sohon has is replacing Shade and 744 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: Sharp in the Rising Stars game. Do you have a 745 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: take on. 746 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 2: That starting point guard for the Santonas first for thirty games, 747 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: and then it took him out of that spot. So yeah, 748 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 2: Trey Jones, Hey, you can start. 749 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: Now before we get into the ones we've already talked 750 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: about this morning. What's the biggest like name that hasn't 751 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: been dealt yet with eleven minutes to go, it's the 752 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: most shock. 753 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 3: The Atlanta Hawks are keeping guard to Jonte Murray. 754 00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 1: No trade okay, too good? 755 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: Recently we think we're gonna be good. Row right, it did. 756 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: That's right, bad timing for us, you know, sickles that 757 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: just want trades. It's like, oh, the Hawks are figuring 758 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: it out. I mean that just means like nobody had 759 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: anything good to offer, Like they really weren't even getting 760 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: a second round excuse me, a second first round pick. 761 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 3: I listened to a few podcasts today that said maybe 762 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: they would be able to find a first round pick, 763 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: and I don't think that's enough to get back for 764 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 3: de Jontay Murray. The we talked about the Jazz, they 765 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 3: allegedly made an offer, and the Lakers have allegedly made 766 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 3: an offer that included as one of their young guys, 767 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: Jalen Hood Shaffino. And it's like if The Hawks are 768 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 3: really into Jalen hood Shafino. They would have drafted him 769 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 3: when they drafted Kobe Bufkin, but they took Kobe Buffkin instead. 770 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 3: So apparently not enough interest in de Jontey Murray, which 771 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: to me is not surprising. Like he's good, but you're 772 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: not giving up three first round picks for de Jonta 773 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 3: Murray unless you're the Hawks two years ago. 774 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'm buying the Hawks juice right now. But 775 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: since DeAndre Hunter has come back, and I'm buying the juice. 776 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: I mean for him to get a helper on the 777 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: perimeter because people are questioning John taymra you need you 778 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: need defense besides Trey beside him and Johonnai MraY hasn't 779 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 2: been fantastic. But since DeAndre Hunter came back, the Hawks 780 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: are okay. They obviously won four in a row there 781 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: and then they they're allowed to lose to the Clippers. 782 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 2: They're allowed to lose to the Celtics. Those are their 783 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: last two losses. Yeah, they're good. I guess I'm buying in. 784 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: I'm buying in. 785 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: We've got some more slop here, some minor trades. So 786 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: the Doug McDermott going to Indiana. Well, the Pacers were 787 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 1: trading Marcus Morris, who they just got in the Buddy 788 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: Heel deal from earlier today, and a second round picking 789 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: cash to the Spurs for Duck. That's what's making that 790 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: deal go down Marcus Morris. He said, that's right cool, Yeah, 791 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: I wonder to pick get. 792 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 3: The key to the city. 793 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: And the Milwaukee Bucks are trading Robin Lopez to the 794 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings. 795 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: Huh. 796 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: He's expected to be waived and become a free agent. 797 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: This is what was just tweeting. So Robin Lopez will 798 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: not be sitting on the corner by the bench there 799 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: for the Milwaukee Bucks anymore. 800 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: They had a pair of bros the nasier did Amboy 801 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 2: and Yannis and Robin and Brooke. Why are they getting 802 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 2: rid of him? 803 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: Is that a financial Yeah, the Bucks are sending cash 804 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: in the deal to two Sacramento. We're gonna need a 805 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: hallandjur to explain why in hell they're doing this. It's 806 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: all financial. 807 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: Reasons, Apron and Apron that they need to get under. 808 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: Bron and they probably also create a roster spot so 809 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,959 Speaker 3: they can get a guy on the buyout marketing. Maybe 810 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 3: it's their team a little bit better than Robin Lopez 811 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 3: and she hasn't been playing all that much, and maybe 812 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: Lopez becomes a Philadelphia seventy six er. Hmm, yeah, backup, big, 813 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 3: I kind of think with a beat out, So I 814 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 3: don't know that's true. 815 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: Good slot into that well while we wait on any 816 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: other minor deals here or big ones. Not likely. Uh yeah, 817 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: the Sixers did did trade Buddy Hilt or trade for 818 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: excuse me, Buddy Hilt from Indiana Again, if you want 819 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: to go check out our morning show where we reacted 820 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: to Wednesday's trades those three that you know, again we're 821 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: minor with Tilman going to the Celtics and stuff like that. 822 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: We did this at ten am Eastern. It's in your 823 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: podcast feed, it's obviously on YouTube. And then while we 824 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: were doing that show, a lot of trades were coming 825 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 1: in and one of them was again Buddy Healed going 826 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 1: to Philly for Morris and Cork Maz and second round picks. 827 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: Any new thoughts on this as we had some more 828 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: hours to digest it. With the with Philly getting Buddy. 829 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: I said that he'd be coming off the bench. I 830 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: know people got all up in the comments and said, 831 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: come on, he's going to be starting for this team. 832 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure about that just because they are. 833 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 2: They've got Tobias Harris obviously going to start alongside MAXI, 834 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: and I think they start more guys that know their role, 835 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: like a Nicola Batoom or that type of player over Buddy. 836 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, other than that, other than me calling him 837 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 2: behave calling him a Bermudian, you know, I got no 838 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 2: new facts. They got no new facts for Buddy Heal. 839 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 3: I do think he'll start. They are currently twenty seventh 840 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 3: and three point makes per game. Buddy Healed is a 841 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 3: three point shooter, and talking about knowing your role, that's 842 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 3: all he does is shooting three, So I think he 843 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 3: knows what's up for that, So I think that they 844 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: will probably tilt a little offensively within beads thirty five 845 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 3: points per game missing for the next however many weeks, 846 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: he probably get starts over like Kelly Oubra and Danson Belton, 847 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 3: I guess has been starting quite a bit for them 848 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 3: as well. 849 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: Buddy Healed never played in a playoff game, sort of funny. 850 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: Been around for a while, but was with the Pelicans 851 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: when he was drafted and then traded in his first 852 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: year to the Sacramento Kings and they had the futility 853 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: still running there where they couldn't make the postseason. Obviously 854 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: made his way to the Indiana Pacers, and you know 855 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: he hasn't been in those games in a playoff game 856 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: for them either, so he's gonna likely have his first 857 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: playoff game with the Philadelphia seventy six ers unless they 858 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: slip into the play in and then you know, things 859 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: go bad. Maybe Embiid doesn't come back, but we might 860 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: see Buddy healed in a playoff series. Another one from 861 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: this morning. Yeah, we talked about this already a little bit, 862 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: but it was the Raptors, uh, you know, fulfilling can 863 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: con requirements, getting Kelly Olynik and Ochai Abaji for Otto 864 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: Porter junior, Kira Lewis junior, a couple of juniors there, 865 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 1: and then that late twenty four excives me first round 866 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: pick and it's like the least favorable of okay, see 867 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: La C H O U and Uta. So see, if 868 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: everybody's awake, try to keep you on your toes. 869 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then this news from our man Seam 870 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: Sharanya here regarding the Spencer Dinwitty trade for Dennis Shrewder Yeah, 871 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: what happened to avoid a one point five million dollar 872 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 2: upcoming contract bonus for games played the Toronto Raptors are 873 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 2: playing to wave Spencer didn't Okay, okay, that was quick. 874 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: I was a quick run for Spencer, didn't. 875 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: Man, I just bought his jersey and I didn't get 876 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: insured with my American Express. 877 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah they got They must have plans for free agency 878 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 2: in that they give up Shrewder who has contract next 879 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: season to get an ex Brian contract in Spencer. 880 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: Who does Maza Massai have his eye on in free agency? 881 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 3: Quickly got to pay? 882 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 2: Right? 883 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 884 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 2: Quickly has likely gets paid? Yes, yes, maybe who else? 885 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: Who's the big free agent from back Harris? Oh gosh 886 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 1: the list for free agents? 887 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah it's not it's not big names. 888 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: No, No, that's why it's told about pre agency. 889 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 2: Man. 890 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: Uh all right. 891 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 3: I did see Alex Spears talking about that pick that 892 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 3: the Raptors traded. He says, nobody wants this pick. It's 893 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 3: gone from Oklahoma City to Denver to Indiana to Toronto 894 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: to Utah in the span of eight months. Nobody really 895 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 3: wants to pick like twenty five through thirty in this draft. 896 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 3: But I hope whoever it is becomes a Hall. 897 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: Of Famer, they'll yeah, they'll use it as like inspiration. 898 00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 3: They didn't even want to pick me. 899 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 1: They didn't even want my pick. 900 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm now I'm searching the twenty twenty four free 901 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 2: agency lists. They want, they want Paul George's podcast Live 902 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 2: in Toronto podcast Pete come into Toronto. No, he has 903 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 2: an option. Yeah, I'm sure he'll take that and hang 904 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 2: out with the Clippers otherwise. Yeah, it's it's an interesting 905 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 2: crop here, Tamar coming back. Sorry, let's get off this list. 906 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: Let's way off this list. 907 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: Another minor deal. Minor deal here, as we approach the deadline, buzzer, 908 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,240 Speaker 1: seventy six Ers are trading Jaden Springer to the Celtics 909 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 1: for a second round pick. I should have I should 910 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: have said for what you guys would have said, the 911 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: second round pick. Yeah, Springer going to Boston. 912 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Celtics have wanted help with their bench because 913 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 2: it's it's Peyton Richard and then there's a there's a 914 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 2: howser in there coming to fire off threes. They obviously 915 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 2: win and got some big man help and got Xavier 916 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 2: Tillman today, which makes a heck of a lot of sense. 917 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 2: And this is along those lines. They they can't go 918 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 2: get a big name. There was some some Gordon Hayward 919 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 2: chatter or to go back and get to Neil Gallinari. 920 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 2: James Burger has been all right for the seventy six ers. 921 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 3: I no, no, he's good at defense. 922 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah he at defense. Yeah he's shooting. Uh yeah, he's 923 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: shooting a cool twenty one percent from deep and thirty 924 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: nine percent from the floor. Offensively, a very very bad year. 925 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, he's he's a stocky, you know, defensive minded guard, 926 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: which is like like this isn't going to change anything, 927 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: like this is a classic in case somebody gets injured. 928 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: Sure, an energy yeaheah, he's an energy guy. 929 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 3: Right, g League Finals MVP last season. 930 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 2: As well, he's going to bring it in practice. 931 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 4: He's got to bring out in practice. And then Peyton 932 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 4: Pritchard going out, Oh, make those guys better in the 933 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 4: locker room. All it took was a second round pick. 934 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 4: Let's just go back to one of the morning deals 935 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 4: because we knew a little bit more about it now. 936 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 4: It was a good Gord, Almighty Gordon Hayward going to 937 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 4: Okay C and in exchange the Hornets got trade man, 938 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 4: Michic Burton's and draft compensation. 939 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: So, michich we didn't know this morning when this deal 940 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: went down. I'm sure that hasn't changed your opinions on 941 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: it too much. You liked it for like what the 942 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: Hornets were doing, obviously cashing in on Hayward. You like 943 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: that pick, I'm getting that. And then you know, Heyward, 944 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: is this vet here joining a very young thunder team. Uh, 945 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: we may have him at the top of all the 946 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: guys traded. He might be at the top of the Hey, 947 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: that guy might win you a quarter in a playoffs 948 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, game and potentially series for sure, you know, 949 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: in fact, in fact, let me put you on the spot. 950 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 1: Give me your top three. Have all the guys traded 951 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: over the last two days. I'm counting Wednesday, if you want, 952 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: who's your top three? Hey, this guy could win us 953 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: five to ten minutes of a playoff game. 954 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 3: New number one for me is Buddy Healed. Okay, the 955 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 3: guy can catch catch fire, can absolutely catch fire. 956 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 2: I'm going down, just mind okay, okay, okay, Yeah, he 957 00:45:54,920 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 2: ends for quarter, he ends for ends games. It's the guys. Yeah, 958 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 2: but he's good at it. 959 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so you go. 960 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 3: You do. That's the top three. I think Hayward, Bogdanovich, 961 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 3: and Buddy Heel. 962 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 2: Okay, got some guys who can shoot. That's free. 963 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure sure. Do you have any other thoughts 964 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 1: on this, on this Thunder acquiring Hayward though TK nothing. 965 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 2: What is this draft compensation? We don't know. 966 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 3: What have we seen this draft compensation? 967 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what. 968 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: It is a couple of second. 969 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 3: Check with Schleck dog here glue. No, Boston Celtics are 970 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 3: trading Dolano Banton to the Portland Trailblazers for a second 971 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 3: round bit heavily protected second round pick. We're going in now. 972 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: But holy now we're protecting the second round picks. 973 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Why isn't he going back to Toronto? He's 974 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 2: freaking come on? Yeah? This u the draft compensation to 975 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 2: go along with Trey Man is a good get for 976 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 2: the Hornets, just to have him around. Why the heck not? 977 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 2: The Cilia meat just a fun name to say it, 978 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: And so is Dabas Burton's Mitchitch was actually decent for 979 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 2: them for the Thunder when he did play. 980 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 1: We have hit the three o'clock Eastern time NBA trade 981 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: deadline buzzer it is over now. Trades will trickle in 982 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: from time to time, but wosh tweets, Raptors are keeping 983 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 1: Bruce Brown junior, so he included the junior some don't interesting. 984 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Bruce cass you've been saying it. You thought, man, 985 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna trade them and that they're 986 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: gonna keep them. Now do you think that moving forward 987 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: they're picking up the team option and Bruce Brown on 988 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: the roster next year or. 989 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 2: That's a great question. Yeah, making a heck of a 990 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 2: lot of money for a team that's bad, and in 991 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 2: that world he's an option for twenty three million dollars. 992 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 2: It's a little surprising. It just feels like the Raps 993 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 2: think they're good and they think that quickly and Barrett 994 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 2: and Barnes mainly with a sprinkled with a little bit 995 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 2: of pearl, should be winning a lot of games. So 996 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 2: that's that's the only time that Bruce Brown really makes 997 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 2: a lot of sense as a complement guy to a 998 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: good team like he was I'm gonna say it on 999 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 2: the Nuggets. No, this Raps team ain't winning a championship 1000 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 2: like the Nuggets. But that's that's what besides feels like 1001 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 2: feels like what MASSI is feeling is that this team 1002 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 2: is really really good if they're keeping Bruce for that reason. 1003 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 2: But I'm not sure he stays long. I'm not sure. 1004 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm not sure they can trade him at summertime. Yeah, when, 1005 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 3: like I just I know the Lakers will have more 1006 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 3: picks available to them during the summer, but apparently they 1007 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 3: want to chase some bigger names. No surprise. But if 1008 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 3: the first round pick isn't there, Massi's just hoping that 1009 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 3: it will be the next time around. 1010 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And WOJ has sort of added to that Bruce 1011 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: Brown tweet that the twenty three million dollar team option 1012 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: on Brown's twenty four to twenty five contract gives the 1013 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: Raptors a lot of options in the offseason. Exactly what 1014 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: you just guys just said. Chris Haynes is saying the 1015 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: Bulls are keeping Andre Drummond. I guess the Bulls are 1016 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: keeping everyone a real quiet day from Chicago. This guy 1017 00:48:54,560 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 1: is pumped. He's got Bull Talks tickets during this one. 1018 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 3: It's a nine to ten play in preview. 1019 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: Baby, So the Bulls surprise, surprise, literally back they are back. 1020 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: No one leaving h And then you had a couple 1021 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: other teams obviously sitting in the Lakers not doing a 1022 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: move that we know of. We thought they would be 1023 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: a team that was desperate to shake things up. Lebron 1024 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: with his hourglass emoji, how he's going to react now? Uh, 1025 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, the Warriors had been but they started to 1026 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: figure things out and curses. Now we got enough guys, 1027 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: So it's coming gone, man, that's it. Trade deadlinees it, 1028 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: it's over. 1029 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 3: We got to see if no more tricklers. 1030 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there might be a trickle in, but like, 1031 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm always convinced we're not getting a big, juicy, you know, 1032 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: landscape shifting sort of deal. After the buzzer, it's always like, yeah, 1033 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,399 Speaker 1: so and so was waved and oh yeah the second 1034 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: round pick maybe for this end of the bench guy 1035 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: at most probably not. 1036 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 2: No. Yeah, as far as just just flying through again, 1037 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 2: I just want to refeel free agency day here, not 1038 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: free trade deadline day here. I do like that the 1039 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 2: minnesot tables went and got a point guard in Monte 1040 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 2: Morris to help them out. He is going to be good. 1041 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,439 Speaker 2: They fall apart in fourth quarters the ranking and fourth 1042 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 2: quarters offense is poor. It actually is very very one 1043 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 2: of the worst. They're bad at obviously turning the ball over. 1044 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 2: They become stagnant. They need a point guard to help 1045 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 2: Mike Conley. They need just to move that thing a 1046 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 2: lot more. They just need Mike Conley to be fresh. 1047 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 2: They've got a tough schedule here the rest of the 1048 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 2: way with a lot of back to backs, so it's 1049 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 2: a smart move. 1050 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: Well, they're trickling in. Yeah, the Warriors are trading Corey 1051 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 1: Joseph to the Pacer Canada for what probably a second 1052 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:47,879 Speaker 1: round pick. 1053 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 3: That's going to be a second you know, that's good. 1054 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: That might be a protective that's. 1055 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 3: A protective second pick, top fifty five, I'm thinking. 1056 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, you're rights. 1057 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 1: Pacers are trying to be trying to be the raps here, 1058 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: trying to be Team Canada. Man to be their third guy. Yeah, 1059 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: third guy. They got Mathron, they got nem Hard, now 1060 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: they got Corey. Used to have Brissette and. 1061 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 3: They got to them. 1062 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: Who yeah he counts. Yeah sure, he's. 1063 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 3: An honorary Canadian. 1064 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 2: Okay, honorary Canadian. 1065 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right. They like to get their Canadians 1066 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: in there. 1067 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 2: Kojoe, Yeah, okay, you don't need. 1068 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: Take let me uh quickly recap everything to the best 1069 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: of my abilities for maybe somebody just joining us live 1070 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: right now on YouTube. The MAVs making some deals here today. 1071 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,760 Speaker 1: They went and got PJ. Washington, the Chevy tracks himself 1072 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: from the Hornets. It cost them Grant Williams and Seth 1073 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 1: Curry and a top two protected twenty seven first round pick. 1074 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,399 Speaker 1: The MAVs also got Daniel Gafford and his sexy eyes. 1075 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 1: We're always talking about Al Horford's eyes and not enough 1076 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: about Gafford's. You're so right beautiful eyes on that guy. 1077 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 3: Great eyes, yes, and top three handsome guys. He's up 1078 00:51:59,320 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 3: there with the bogie. 1079 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: He's right there. So Gafford gives them at least on 1080 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 1: the Wizards, he put up good points, you know, eleven 1081 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: eight to two point two blocks per game. So he 1082 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: goes to Dallas as a backup big there, probably behind Lively. 1083 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 1: That cost them Rashaun Holmes, so they were swapping of 1084 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,439 Speaker 1: big men there. The Knicks. Now, the guys loved it here, 1085 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: especially Tass Bogdanovich and Burke's going to New York. Quentin Grimes, 1086 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: he's gone. He goes to Detroit, Fournier Flynn, Archie Diacino 1087 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: and two future second round picks. But the Knicks, you know, 1088 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: shoring up sort of their roster, maybe because of the 1089 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: injuries to some of their key guys. But yeah, adding 1090 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: a shooter, a couple shooters, I should say, because burks 1091 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: can catch fired too. Two TIBs roster there. The Raptors, man, 1092 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: it's perplexing, it's weird. But they traded Dennis Shrewder to 1093 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: the Nets for DINWITTI and then waved Dinwitty thought he's young. 1094 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: Also went back to Brooklyn the earlier in the day. 1095 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: Did Kelly olynnok have him a bagie in sending out 1096 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: Kira Lewis on a porter and a pick there? The 1097 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: Son's got Royce O'Neil and David the Body Roddy in 1098 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 1: a three way deal that we're still trying to figure out. 1099 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: But want to not be going to the Grizzlies. A 1100 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 1: couple of guys going to the Nets. But Royce O'Neill, 1101 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: we thought he would be moved. There was reports from 1102 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: the New York Post this morning. I saw that they 1103 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: could have traded him last deadline for two first round picks. No, no, 1104 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: roy O'Neil, that's what they said. That's what they said, 1105 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: that's what it said in the post. 1106 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave up a first round pick to get 1107 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 2: from didn't really make a ton of sense. 1108 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'm just telling you what the 1109 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: post said. But anyway, he goes to the Suns. They 1110 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 1: like they just took They took four guys at the 1111 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: end of their roster and said, oh, give us these 1112 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: other two guys. We think they're gonna like actually contribute, 1113 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 1: especially Royce O'Neil and I think he will be. Yeah, 1114 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: part of the top eight, top seven rotation might end 1115 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: some games for them alongside their big three. Pat Bev 1116 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: himself announced that he was going to the Milwaukee Bucks. 1117 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: That dog is gonna go play with Giannis and Dame 1118 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 1: oh man. They have friction in the past. It's okay. 1119 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: Now he's on my team. Now he's my guy. 1120 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 3: Patrick Beverley and Bobby portis playing together. That's gonna be awesome. 1121 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 3: That team's going forehead to forehead with somebody and then like. 1122 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna be screaming off the bench. 1123 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 3: We gotta have a Pacers box series. You're angry at 1124 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,240 Speaker 3: each other, You're at these two guys. 1125 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. 1126 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 2: Many dogs? Is doc a veterinarian. 1127 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: Bad duck joke, Buddy Healed, leaves the Pacers, he goes 1128 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. Uh that is uh one that happened earlier today, 1129 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: Gordon Hayward going to ok C. They're taking some draft 1130 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: conversation Trey Man. The Hornets are taking a flyer on him. 1131 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 1: And then uh yeah, I already said the Kelly Olnic 1132 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: of Baji won. And then yesterday, Yeah, Tilman to the Celtics. 1133 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: I think he will be in the running because of 1134 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: his defense. For a guy that will, like a game 1135 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: in a playoff series in the right matchup, that defense 1136 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: will cause somebody a headache and give them nightmares. So 1137 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: he did that. And then what are the other ones? Yesterday? 1138 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: They were pretty small? Oh yeah, Monty Morris, you said, 1139 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: and fun Techyo, Simone, fun Techio, what a name, baby 1140 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: going to the Pistons. I think I bout hit it all. 1141 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 1: I know there's some other little siny slap. 1142 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 3: I mean, I have never seen slop smaller than this. 1143 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 3: Skates Law Murray from the Athletic what he sweets. There's 1144 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 3: a Clippers trade to Denver cash to LA draft rights 1145 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 3: to center Ishmael Kamagate twenty two second round. 1146 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: Can you come again on k A M A G 1147 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: A T E. All right? 1148 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 3: That that is a transaction of that is what we 1149 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 3: call it. That is. 1150 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: Wow. I thought you were gonna say, like Bomer is 1151 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: throwing in the toilet rights to eight toilets and the 1152 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,720 Speaker 1: new into it him or something like that. Okay, cash 1153 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: cash cash for right. 1154 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 2: I'm just watching this clip. Apparently Chai Baji, who went 1155 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 2: to Kansas along with his new teammate Grady Dick, also 1156 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 2: went to Kansas. Grady Dick apparently checked into his room 1157 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 2: in his dorm and there was a note from Chaia 1158 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 2: Baji which said, whoever takes over this room be great, 1159 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 2: Gray Dick right in the heart, right in the heart, 1160 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 2: not in the pants or the dick right in the heart. 1161 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 2: And it helped him. It helped him. Okay, he loves it. 1162 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 2: He's crying. Everybody's gonna love Chaibaji on the Toronto. 1163 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: Rounds Raptors Propa. You know what, let's take a quick break. 1164 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 1: We're not going anywhere. It will be a quick break 1165 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: and then we'll come back. And uh, I don't know 1166 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: Twitter or thumbs a little bit, don't Jake Frisbee in 1167 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 1: the stream team, he asked, well, should I get back 1168 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 1: to work, No, Jake, We're just getting started here because 1169 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about teams that didn't make a trade. 1170 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,720 Speaker 1: Who are going to be the teams on people's losers 1171 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 1: of the deadline for the moves they didn't make. That's 1172 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 1: what I want to know, TK, Who had you shaken 1173 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: your head at? Like, come on, you didn't even trade 1174 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: for a second round pick. 1175 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 3: Didn't even get any cash for a guy no one's 1176 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 3: ever heard of. The stats are already coming out Bulls 1177 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 3: haven't made a trade involving a player since August twenty 1178 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 3: twenty one. What that's a lot. Wow, that is a 1179 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,479 Speaker 3: long time. 1180 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 4: But I mean you see the results speak for themselves. 1181 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:43,919 Speaker 1: Who was it, dude, though? 1182 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 3: I mean that was like the Derozean summer. Okay, yeah, Cruse, 1183 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 3: I guess it was a free agent signing. 1184 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: So are you pissed as a Bulls fan that they 1185 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: did sort of stand pat here and didn't you know, 1186 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 1: either move to Rosen or even a Drummond or I 1187 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: guess a Caruso if you were selling high on him, 1188 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's like the hottest name in the mark 1189 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: or not. 1190 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I 1191 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 3: didn't expect him to make a move, like I thought 1192 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,959 Speaker 3: they would trade Drummond. I'll say I thought they would 1193 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 3: trade Drummond. His last game was like it felt like 1194 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 3: a going away party shore him. Everywhere's going nuts in 1195 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 3: the United Center, He's celebrating after every single basket and 1196 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 3: played a great game. He's on an expiring contract and 1197 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 3: he could help a lot of teams. Yeah, but the 1198 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 3: Bulls thought they hit on something with Booch and Drummond 1199 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 3: playing alongside each other. They were just completely rolled over 1200 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 3: the first seeded Minnesota Timberwolves playing their double big lineup. 1201 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 3: So maybe it'll work. Also, like the thing with Caruso, 1202 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 3: as Yeah, he would be very valuable on any contending team. 1203 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 3: Trading him now while he's still got a year left 1204 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 3: on his deal next season would have been smart because 1205 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 3: the return will be better. We just saw that with 1206 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 3: Boyne Bogdanovic going for basically a second round pick this 1207 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 3: year when maybe he would have went for first last year. 1208 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,479 Speaker 3: But also, Caruso is a fan favorite, super awesome to watch, 1209 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 3: and a great culture guy to have around, so I 1210 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 3: can understand wanting to keep him. This is a team 1211 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 3: that does not want to be bad after the debacle 1212 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 3: that was the Jim Boyle and era. They just don't 1213 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 3: want to go back there right now, especially when you 1214 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 3: see all of the players from that set of teams 1215 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 3: go to other teams and get some good coaching and 1216 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 3: look pretty solid. I'm talking about Lotry Markinen and Chris 1217 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 3: Dunn specifically. Throw Daniel Gafford in if you want, Yeah, 1218 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 3: but I don't know. It's it's crazy to just not 1219 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 3: do anything. Yeah like that, like literally what the Sons 1220 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 3: are doing. They didn't really make that big of moves, right, 1221 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 3: but they're just churning the back end of your roster 1222 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 3: to mix things up, And I would like to see 1223 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 3: the Bulls do something right. 1224 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 2: Sure feels like Cruso will be back there next year. 1225 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 2: There's a chance that they just buy out Andre Drummond 1226 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 2: for a team like you just mentioned. There are a 1227 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 2: lot of teams out there that could use a big Yeah. 1228 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 2: Maybe the Bulls just want to save money and let 1229 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,439 Speaker 2: Drummond go instead of bringing back next season, but they 1230 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 2: have lots of faith in Alex Caruso for instance. There's 1231 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 2: there's teams that need a lot of help at the 1232 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 2: bottom of their roster. Absolutely, and Tony Slater the Athletic 1233 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 2: tweeting that the Warriors training Corey Joseph to the Pacers 1234 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 2: is for tax money and a roster spot. They probably 1235 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 2: need a big Draymond Green is starting at the center spot. 1236 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 2: They need a big big Andre Drummond would obviously fit. 1237 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Dwight Howard is out there somewhere in a big Yeah, 1238 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 2: he was in Asia. I mean, he looks decent and 1239 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 2: could just just to help out against Nicola Jokic if 1240 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 2: you get him in a series, that's just a bang 1241 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 2: against him. I mean, we saw Austin Rivers and John 1242 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 2: Wall work out what was it in December? They had 1243 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 2: that private workout. I'm sure an Austin Rivers could help 1244 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 2: out as a three and D guy somewhere, but especially 1245 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 2: the Biggs. The Biggs are are definitely going to be 1246 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 2: grabbed over the next month or so. We got to 1247 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 2: do a live show for the Biots. 1248 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 1: For the Biot season. Well, I'll tell you one guy 1249 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: who sounds like will not be a potential Biot guy, 1250 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Clippers forward PJ. Tucker. He will not request a Biot, 1251 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: says Chris Haynes, and he's going to remain with the team. 1252 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: For the duration of the season after trade attempts fell short. 1253 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: So they were trying to find I would leave the 1254 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 1: second round pick, probably for PJ. Tucker and couldn't, and 1255 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: so he's gonna he's like probably looking around, He's like, Okay, 1256 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: maybe I can win a title here. 1257 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's lots of guys. I think that the team 1258 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 2: the GMS were trying to trade PJ. Tucker, probably Andrea Drummond. 1259 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 2: It's got to the others. Who am I missing, like 1260 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 2: on that level, well, any level, any level ac I 1261 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 2: think the. 1262 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Shocking one is the Hawks not doing anything here or 1263 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: at least not moving to John Tay Murray. I'm fascinated 1264 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 1: to know. I hope we get leaks of like what 1265 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: were the Pelicans offering, Like we might find out and 1266 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, good move, don't don't trade them for that. 1267 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: But you know, at one point or what point, like 1268 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 1: is Herb Jones included, Is Dyson Daniels included? I mean 1269 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 1: I would assume JV for contract reasons, would have been 1270 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 1: is it just one pick and they're they're stuck on 1271 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 1: that and they won't go more like I'm just curious, 1272 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 1: and then you're left going ooh, are they going to 1273 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: regret not having pivoted? The Hawks are not good. I 1274 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: know they won some games where they're not good. Twenty nine. 1275 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: That's a very disappointing season for Tina's trying to be 1276 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: good with obviously an All Star player in Trey Young 1277 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: and a borderline All Star guy in Deontay Murray. I mean, 1278 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: it's just bad so that one. I just can't wait 1279 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: to find out. Maybe we find out details about it 1280 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 1: and the Lakers side of things and all that. 1281 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the only things that I've seen so far about 1282 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 3: the Pelicans, specifically with the Jeante Murray, was that we 1283 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 3: talked about it earlier. The Pelicans were also interested in 1284 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 3: a Coongu, which seems like a non starter on that side. 1285 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 3: But then apparently reports during the day today said that 1286 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,880 Speaker 3: the Hawks were also asking for Herb Jones from the Pelicans, 1287 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 3: which seems like kind of the exact same going the 1288 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 3: other way. The Pelicans are like, no way, we like 1289 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 3: Herb Jones. So the deals weren't there. But yeah, Hawks 1290 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 3: didn't make a move a big move, Bulls didn't make 1291 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 3: a move. Lakers of course. Warriors, Yeah, didn't really do much. 1292 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 3: I mean, they traded Corey Joseph Away. That could be 1293 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 3: a Robin lope As landing spot and he gets bought 1294 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 3: out by the King. 1295 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, the Magic also didn't make a yeah move. 1296 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Heat the Heat have already made you know, they did 1297 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 1: the yeah. And that's the thing. Some of these teams 1298 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 1: had done moves prior. But when you look like I guess, 1299 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 1: it feels like more moves in a way, we're coming 1300 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 1: from the Eastern Conference or at least these teams at 1301 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 1: the top sort of you know, trying to like add 1302 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: a piece or two. I'm talking about the Celtics with Tillman, 1303 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 1: the Bucks obviously getting Pat Bev, the Knicks making sort 1304 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: of one of the bigger deals at least in terms 1305 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 1: of the players movement. Sixers did a couple, Pacers did 1306 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 1: a couple. I guess. The Cavs are a team that 1307 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, we had known the last couple of days 1308 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: they had talked about like JB. Biggers. That was like, no, 1309 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: I think we got a good team here. We like 1310 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,960 Speaker 1: who we got. We're not gonna be making anything and 1311 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: they held pat Otherwise I felt like more were coming. 1312 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 1: But then you look at I guess Hayward going to 1313 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: the thunder Morris going to the Wolves. Okay, the Nuggets, 1314 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm not counting that one, or the Clippers really, and 1315 01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: then the Pels nothing, Kings nothing, you know, Mavericks. So 1316 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 1: obviously the team in the top eight in the West, 1317 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 1: they were the one that were the most active trying 1318 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 1: to improve their roster. 1319 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were pondering whether or not the Kings would 1320 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 2: try and go shore up the defense, just to get 1321 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 2: somebody to work their butts off on that and because 1322 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 2: they just aren't there defensively giving up a lot of 1323 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 2: three point shots because they've fallen into play in tournament 1324 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 2: road here they're seventh in the Western Conference after last 1325 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 2: year's incredible year. So that was the kind of the question. 1326 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 2: A Kuzma was a name that was out there. The 1327 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 2: Wizards also didn't make anything any giant, giant moves. Obviously 1328 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 2: they gave up Daniel Gafford. 1329 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 1: The Wizards are like, they're starting the breakdown. 1330 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but why not trade Tyas Jones? 1331 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1332 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, true, surprising that one is surprising. 1333 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:46,919 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 1334 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: And then Kuzma we talked about, but maybe that's something 1335 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: that happens in the off season, which I think easily. 1336 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 2: Could Yes, they could. 1337 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on the trade deadline. We'll stick around 1338 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 1: here for everbody joining us on YouTube for ten or 1339 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: fifteen more minutes. I don't think much more is coming 1340 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: our way. 1341 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 3: And rushing all of these newsbreakers, you know, I guess 1342 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 3: woes battling shams today and Pat Bev was fun. 1343 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 1: I always wonder how a guy like Sean's like, I 1344 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 1: think Sean's is doing what we're doing right now, or 1345 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: at least was during the afternoon. He's like live on 1346 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: his own show online talking about these deals and then 1347 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 1: still trying to break the deals. But he got some 1348 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: of the bigger ones, I guess. But Pat Bev man 1349 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: the real, the real newsbreaker. I hope he wins an award. 1350 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 3: I would say that was the most surprising trade for me. Yeah, 1351 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,920 Speaker 3: Patrick Beverley, I just didn't have him like as a 1352 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,439 Speaker 3: guy potentially to even be traded. It makes sense going 1353 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 3: to play for Doc Rivers, I think, but just Patrick 1354 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 3: Beverley seemed like part of the rotation in Philadelphia. I 1355 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 3: am a Philly guy. 1356 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: I think surprising for me, and maybe because it's hitting 1357 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,120 Speaker 1: close to home, what the Raptors did today was a 1358 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 1: little like whoa not trading Bruce Brown, but trading for 1359 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: Kelly olinok a bagie and then trading for DINWITTI like 1360 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: sending Shooter out but then waving Dinwitty. It's a it's 1361 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 1: a little strange. We joked here in the Classic Factory. 1362 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 1: Our guys up there in Toronto, the Willlo, the Raptor Show, 1363 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 1: they have Shooter on like every week, this guy jumps 1364 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: on and now he's gone. We thought, well, dinwitdy take 1365 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 1: his spot on the pod. Nope, So now they I 1366 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: just feel bad from they got a whole block now 1367 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 1: to fill every week. You know, we know from experience 1368 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: every day there you got to fill those blocks. 1369 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 3: Bruce Brown, is he good on a podcast? I don't know. 1370 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 2: Feels like he'd be good. I agree, I have no 1371 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 2: idea if he would be. But it is an interesting 1372 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 2: day in Toronto. In comes Kelly Olinic Oh Chai, Baji Spencer, 1373 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 2: did we oh no, he's leaving out? Goes Dennis Shuter, 1374 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 2: Auto Porter, Junior, Kyra Lewis and a late first round pick. 1375 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 2: They just really be even and quickly and Barrett I'm sure, 1376 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 2: and Barnes and a little pearl. But the Philadelphia one, 1377 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 2: that's a that's a really really puzzling one because who 1378 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 2: is their backup point guard? 1379 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 3: Now? 1380 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 2: I mean they just campaign. Yeah, I don't know. I've 1381 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 2: been in camp. I've been a campaign guy since he 1382 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 2: was with the Raptors. Be your gay man, Yeah, okay, 1383 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry, Kyle Lowry, Yeah, their backup point guard. He 1384 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 2: has definitely got to move. He's we gotta be waiting 1385 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 2: until Kyle is released from the Charlotte Hornets. They gotta 1386 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 2: buy out. You gotta buy him out. 1387 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 3: Oh, we gotta wait. You mean live got to stay 1388 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 3: on until Kyle Lowry's bought out. 1389 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean, in thinking about it, there were only two 1390 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 1: deals over the last couple of days here, including yesterday 1391 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 1: where a first round pick was moved. The Raptors were 1392 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: one of them because they traded that late first round pick, 1393 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 1: the least favorable of all those teams that going obviously 1394 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 1: uh to Utah. And then the PJ. Washington one where 1395 01:07:55,480 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 1: Dallas sent a future top two protected pick to horn 1396 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 1: That's it, right, everything else was obviously players for players 1397 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 1: are a lot of second round picks, unless I'm missing one. 1398 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 2: That's a good call. 1399 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, yeah, yeah, because like Even and Ogi 1400 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 3: were first round picks, right, ones they got a first round. 1401 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 1: Pick for yeah, yeah, yeah, they got like three, didn't 1402 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: they three? 1403 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 2: Late? 1404 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably one of them that they traded. 1405 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of them. 1406 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,640 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely it was. 1407 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 3: We did get a super chat from Mike Patt that 1408 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 3: references first round picks. Dallas basically traded at twenty seven 1409 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 3: first round pick and thirty pick swap in the Grant 1410 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 3: Williams sign and trade for PJ Washington. That's horrible value. 1411 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,439 Speaker 3: Nicks also won the deadline chip on the way if 1412 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 3: we get healthy. 1413 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 1: Cool you where do you get that super chat? 1414 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 3: There you go? 1415 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the MAVs put out a lot that we mentioned. 1416 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 2: You said, two first round picks for trade today. The 1417 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 2: one pales in comparison to the other, and that the 1418 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 2: one that the Raptors traded out. It is gonna be 1419 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 2: late in the first round. This one that the MAVs 1420 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 2: gave up, it's only top two. Acted like one or two. Yeah, 1421 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 2: pick number one or two for PJ Washington. I'm not 1422 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 2: convinced that that was a great deal. Obviously, with Luca 1423 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 2: and Kyrie in the back court, they're going to be 1424 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 2: solid back there. But they're just trying to get better 1425 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 2: with Gafford taping it all together. Daniel Gafford and PJ. 1426 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,759 Speaker 2: Washington obviously TBD TBD. 1427 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. 1428 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, who knows what that pick is 1429 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 1: and where it falls in twenty seven. But we're also 1430 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,880 Speaker 1: looking at two teams on like the most opposite ends 1431 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 1: of the timeline spectrum when it comes to like, hey, 1432 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 1: we need to compete. I'm talking like the Raptors and 1433 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: the pick they send out, and then we're talking about 1434 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: the Mavericks who have Luca. You gotta win now. You 1435 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,679 Speaker 1: have Kyrie and Luca. You should win now, you should 1436 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 1: try and win now. I like those two players, Like 1437 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,679 Speaker 1: I like PJ. Washington because I'm a big chevy tracks guy, 1438 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,320 Speaker 1: and I like Daniel Gafford. They're just good players that 1439 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 1: I love the concept. Like we just even saw with Lively, 1440 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: like like what the difference he made as a rim 1441 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 1: running big as the rook With Luca Gafford, you know, 1442 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,759 Speaker 1: can replicate a little bit of that. The Grant Williams 1443 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: part is the thing that sucked because I was convinced 1444 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 1: he was gonna be great. I loved it. I remember 1445 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's that's a nice, nice addition 1446 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 1: there for them, and it just didn't work out. I mean, 1447 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 1: he played forty seven games, started thirty three of them, 1448 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 1: but Grant Williams gave them like eight and four and 1449 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, fine from three, like you shot thirty seven percent. 1450 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,360 Speaker 1: But just for whatever reason, either his sort of personality 1451 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,599 Speaker 1: or just his fit on the team, for whatever reason, 1452 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 1: it didn't work the way I thought it would, and 1453 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 1: so they quickly pivoted. They're like, well, PJ. Washington, he's 1454 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,599 Speaker 1: pretty similar and maybe he's maybe he's better for us, 1455 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 1: So it's a move off of that. But yeah, you're right, 1456 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: the draft capital sucks that they ended up leaking in 1457 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: these moves. 1458 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're trading away a lot of first 1459 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 3: round picks for guys who are like fifth starters. Yeah, 1460 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 3: and that's a problem when you're trying to build a 1461 01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 3: championship team around an MVP candidate. We'll see with Gafford 1462 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,640 Speaker 3: and PJ. Washington, neither of them has played on a 1463 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 3: good team in their entire career, so maybe they'll look 1464 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 3: good playing in a winning environment, or maybe the lights 1465 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 3: will be too bright. 1466 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting just studying what the MAVs are doing 1467 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 2: year in and year out, because last year they fell 1468 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 2: apart at the end of the season on purpose, and 1469 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 2: they got their hands on Derek Lively because of it 1470 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 2: in the draft. That's a great pick. Obviously, that's worked 1471 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 2: out very well. But it's just fun analyzing them over 1472 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 2: and over. They make these decisions. They say, hey, Tyson Chandler, 1473 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 2: you're out of here. We're gonna we're changing it up 1474 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 2: after we won the championship and then things went awry 1475 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 2: after that. Can't wait to watch. 1476 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 1: Mark Stein says the Mavericks will be among the teams 1477 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: pursuing Spencer. Dinwitty is on the buyout markets. Yeah, yeah, 1478 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 1: Dinwitty back to Dallas potentially, says Stein. Stein always locked 1479 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,080 Speaker 1: in with Dallas in that market. He always knows what 1480 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 1: the MAVs are up to. 1481 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 3: So Dinwitty Dinwitty's going to be one of the hottest 1482 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 3: names on the buyout market, I do believe. Or the 1483 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 3: Lakers are apparently gonna be going after him too. He's 1484 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,160 Speaker 3: from LA. Yeah, they could use a guard, but uh, 1485 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 3: I mean, we got to tip our cap to D'Angelo Russell. 1486 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 3: He actually played well enough these past two weeks. 1487 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 1: Traded survived. 1488 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 3: That's amazing that and Jonathan kuminga telling Steve Kerr you 1489 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 3: play me and I'll score you twenty points a game, 1490 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 3: and then doing it. These guys are like Babe Ruth, 1491 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:22,760 Speaker 3: call them their show. 1492 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean Drummond to some extent too. I was playing amazing. 1493 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 3: I thought he was playing to leave, but yeah, now 1494 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,680 Speaker 3: he's a little bit stake it up. 1495 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we can start wrapping up here pretty soon. 1496 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 1: We're gonna be back tomorrow at ten a m. Eastern 1497 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 1: for the Drop podcast. I'm sure we'll do sort of 1498 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 1: like a zoom out big picture winners and losers of 1499 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 1: the trade deadline. So if you have suggestions, let us 1500 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 1: know in the comments. Tweet at us at No Dunk Sing, 1501 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,000 Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe, make sure you hit the light button, 1502 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 1: make sure you leave us a five star rating and review. Jerome, 1503 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,600 Speaker 1: did you have I thought you were a Jerome. I 1504 01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: saw you grabbing your mic. You've been really busy, You've 1505 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 1: been really helpful share tweets. I thought you had something 1506 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 1: to say when you're grabbing your mic, but he doesn't. 1507 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 1: So no, I was just in case, in case something 1508 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,280 Speaker 1: to be crazy. You grab your mic? 1509 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,599 Speaker 3: Right, yeah right, I'm. 1510 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 2: Still process of saying what the raptids are doing. 1511 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 3: Oh, that's what I'm doing right now. 1512 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry. They're gonna be on a lot of 1513 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 1: losers list tomorrow. 1514 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 2: We'll be puzzled still tomorrow morning, I'm sure. All right. 1515 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 1: Well let's uh, let's call it there. Thanks everybody for 1516 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,679 Speaker 1: joining us live for either this one or the show 1517 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 1: earlier or both of them. We appreciate it, and again 1518 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,639 Speaker 1: back tomorrow ten am Eastern to UH to talk about 1519 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 1: the winners and loser. There's a lot of games on tonight. 1520 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant's statue is being unveiled tonight. It's not Kelly Dwyer, 1521 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 1: I guess writing the other day of like there should 1522 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,719 Speaker 1: be no games on deadline Day. A part of it being, 1523 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of moving parts. Have None 1524 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 1: of these guys will be playing in their for their 1525 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 1: hypothetical ta their new teams tonight. It's an interesting concept. 1526 01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 1: I know we can talk about it tomorrow in more 1527 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 1: until but until then, come to row. 1528 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,200 Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up, 1529 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:06,639 Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome. 1530 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. I just want to say thank 1531 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 2: you for sharing trade deadline day. 1532 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:11,400 Speaker 1: People embrace the day. 1533 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:11,679 Speaker 3: People