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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Here's an afraid to mute

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Speaker 1: you on Twitter. Welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast, presented buy into It Quick Books, the

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Speaker 1: official sponsor of the NFL. My name is Dan Kansas,

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Speaker 1: and I'm coming to you from a city filled with

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Speaker 1: heroes in Bunker's Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, and Gregg roosevelf

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Speaker 1: What is a boys? Hey, Dan? What a time to

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Speaker 1: be alive? What an incredible time to be alive. I

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Speaker 1: gotta pep in my step and I feel like everybody should,

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Speaker 1: because man, it doesn't get any better than this. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, um, there's a lot going on in the

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Speaker 1: world where that might disagree, but I do admit, even

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Speaker 1: as even as a Patriots fan, like a day this

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Speaker 1: momentous in NFL history, Like I'm I'm loving it. I

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I still like it. Oh please, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I feel we've we were beyond a

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Speaker 1: thousand episodes at some point in this show, and have

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Speaker 1: we ever had a news lineup equal to what we're

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Speaker 1: about to get into today. It feels totally surreal. Some

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Speaker 1: of the bullet points we will explore. What do you mean? No? Please,

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Speaker 1: because Dan, I've been pretty consistent on this podcast of

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Speaker 1: how I was hoping, um it might end in in

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Speaker 1: New England and that the last thing I wanted was

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Speaker 1: an ugly ending. And to me, this is about as

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Speaker 1: close to a non ugly ending as they were gonna get.

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Speaker 1: There's no injury, there's no dramatic fall off, there's not

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Speaker 1: a ton of backbiting. Clearly he's not like thrilled and

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Speaker 1: as a closet Bucks fan for a while like it's

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Speaker 1: it's a fun landing spot where you can still roote

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Speaker 1: on Tom Brady like no one no one's feelings are well.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say this, and I wish all fans

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Speaker 1: could be the way you are. According to many people

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Speaker 1: New England, this is one of the darkest days in

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Speaker 1: the city's history in terms of pro sports. From what

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Speaker 1: we're hearing from some outlets, Erika barely got out of

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Speaker 1: let's I would say, just let's hit pause. In terms

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Speaker 1: a feeling that with Tom Brady and the Big News

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Speaker 1: obviously that he is He made an announcement on the

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Speaker 1: social media that he is no longer going to play

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Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots. He's continuing his career elsewhere

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Speaker 1: and reports that we're servicing just as we came on

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Speaker 1: the air today and you might have the news official

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Speaker 1: as a listener by the time you got We have

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Speaker 1: got it right now. Ian Rappaport, our guy is saying

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Speaker 1: that he has agreed to terms like literally as we're

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Speaker 1: starting taping for thirty million dollars a season. Unbelievable. So

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are now officially

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Speaker 1: a thing. And I, uh, I believe two days ago

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Speaker 1: said I would walk through Los Angeles and shake hands

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Speaker 1: I will need to be quarantined very short. So I

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Speaker 1: got a little bit of egg on my face on this.

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Speaker 1: I guess I just never saw it coming. And Greg,

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering how this ends with Brady and the

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Speaker 1: Pats And what we'll do is why don't we kind

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Speaker 1: drop the bombshell that it's over immediately you get statements

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Speaker 1: the flowery praise that you expected. But I keep thinking

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Speaker 1: and I can't help but think that we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: although that's not really the Patriots way that it is

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Speaker 1: shocking to me. It is stunning to me that they

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Speaker 1: the path they went they decided to take that Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady and Robert Craft, I think his exact quote, and

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Speaker 1: that there was also a report that he was that

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Speaker 1: I'm not alone on this. Maybe I'm alone in this pot.

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Speaker 1: And if you if you're waiting for the seth Wickersham,

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Speaker 1: I would assume that if that's if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: that Bruce Arians will see that too. I mean they

430
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to probably break out of his mold.

431
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: This was the thing I love about Arians was that

432
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: he let Big Ben, for long stretches of time in

433
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 1: a row, call his own plays and and be a

434
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: big part of the Steelers offense. And they got along

435
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: so well because of the freedom he gave his quarterback.

436
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: I would have to assume if you're gonna give someone

437
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 1: like big Ben, who doesn't strike me as a like

438
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: a deep intellectual, the ability to do that, that Tom

439
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: Brady will be afforded such luxuries. What do you mean

440
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Speaker 1: You don't think he has a great memoir coming out

441
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: where he's highly eloquent and teaches us. No, I understand,

442
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 1: I understand. The other nugget, the one little like the

443
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: bizarre nugget that came out was that you know, this

444
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: is not a report coming from like the four or

445
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: five people you linked to at this point, but that

446
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, who was you know, a pupil of Bruce

447
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: Arians and is friends with Tom Brady may ultimately be

448
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: part of this team down the road. Sounds crazy today,

449
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: but that's been out there that maybe a rehab mark

450
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: what Yeah, I saw it to West? Where how do

451
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: you feel about that? I lovest afraid to ask. West

452
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: loves it? Well, he hasn't here. Here's the reason why

453
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: he may be allowed to play is that while there

454
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: has been some police incidents, uh during his time away

455
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: from the game, and obviously has been a bonehead of

456
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: the highest degree, I don't know if there's been any

457
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: serious charges or anything that would potentially keep him off

458
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: the field for a long time. All that needs to

459
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: be sorted out obviously, Uh. But it could be a

460
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: situation where he is able to play sooner than perhaps

461
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: you would think, or it could be a situation where

462
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: he faces a long suspension once the NFL finally has

463
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: a reason to hand down discipline when somebody signs him. Right,

464
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: and and there's we don't have a huge reason to

465
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: trust this source at this point. And anyways, right do

466
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Speaker 1: we like? Well, we mentioned that, we're just saying that

467
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: it was a juicy little thing floating. Yeah, there's there's

468
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: a lot. That's the biggest concern is, like I don't know,

469
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: being away from that offensive line seems like, uh, worrisome.

470
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: He makes offensive lines look better. But but that to

471
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: me would be the big the big worry going to Tampa,

472
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: like just looking at them and since the Patriots and

473
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: we'll we'll have time to dig into what's next for

474
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots in a Tom Brady free world. But now

475
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady's out there and they're obviously going to

476
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: go into an extended period two or three decades of

477
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: just not being competitive, how about we untagged Joe Tuney

478
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: and let him go sign with the Jets like that

479
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen. I feel like that's another takeaway

480
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: from today that people should be talking about. Keep talking then,

481
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, you're not gonna get a lot of

482
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: feedback from muscle Man. You're not excited for Jared's did

483
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: him to to lead sixteen A f C East titles

484
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: in the next twenty years we'll see about that. There

485
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: is another big time Hall of Fame quarterback on the move. Officially,

486
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers agrees to a one year, twenty five million

487
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: dollar deal with you knew who was gonna bathe the

488
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Cults. The two sides are in agreement, and he

489
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: ends his long storied career with the Chargers, not quite

490
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: a storied as Tom Brady's with the Patriots. There were

491
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: never he never won a Super Bowl, but he had

492
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: a long run of great play with the Chargers in

493
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: San Diego and then l A. But now he joins

494
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: the Colts team. And since the beginning West this was

495
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: presented as a great landing spot for Philip Rivers, a

496
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback who's very cerebral, that may not have the

497
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: same physical tools he once had, but he could join

498
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: a gifted play called like Frank Reich, playing behind an excellent,

499
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: perhaps the best offensive line in football, that you might

500
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: be able to get another year or two of really

501
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: top play and now it's all come together and it's

502
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah, you know, much like Tom Brady, another

503
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: player in the gradual decline phase of his career. We

504
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: saw it last year with Rivers. His interceptions went way up,

505
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: his touchdown percentage went way down, um and a lot

506
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: of that was because for portions of the season he

507
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: was playing behind the worst pair of tackles in the league,

508
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: the least effective pair of tackles in the League throwing

509
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: a lot of balls up for grabs to compensate for

510
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: that line. So it's an open question how much is

511
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: the Cults offensive line, which is not only the strength

512
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: of their team, but now the personality of their team,

513
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: how much is that going to help? And how much

514
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: is it gonna help? To go back to Frank Reich

515
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: and Nick Sirianni, guys he's had a lot of success with.

516
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: And that's to me the two differences between him and Brady.

517
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: The offensive line is without a doubt of strength with

518
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: the Colts, and he's already played in this offense. He's

519
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: already familiar with these coaches. I can't imagine him like

520
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: getting a better spot. Philip Rivers I think of as

521
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: a guy who's had pretty bad luck of the of

522
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: what's happened around him throughout his career, but he's making

523
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: up for it a little bit here, Like he got

524
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: incredible luck that this opportunity was just sitting there for him,

525
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: Like he could not have created a better, you know,

526
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: situation that was in San Diego. I mean like like

527
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: I did not think and as someone who's always rooted

528
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: for Rivers to have his kind of great late career moment,

529
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: I would after what happened last year and the decision

530
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: making that he had, I would not have thought he

531
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: could have landed on a team that you could swint

532
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: in se as an a f C contender this year.

533
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: That and I think Rivers can play well enough for

534
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: them to be in a FC contender like he he

535
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: he lucked out. I would argue that he might be

536
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: a better fit for the Bucks than Tom Brady and

537
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: for Bruce Arians offense than Tom Brady. I the Cults

538
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: are not They don't have an embarrassment of riches in

539
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: terms of the weapons around him, but he will be

540
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: protected and there seems like a tough, rugged team. And

541
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: then you look at that division and say, the Jaguars

542
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: have fallen off a cliff. The Texans are ostensibly selling

543
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: away their best players for you know, bags of salt.

544
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: So there is a chance that would again about the

545
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: Cults here. Everything else seems to be trending in the

546
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: right direction. But t Y Hilton's on the wrong side

547
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: of thirty, really struggled to stay on the field last year.

548
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell, you know, you could get excited about him, perhaps,

549
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: but they also now don't have a first round pick

550
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: because of the DeForrest Buckner trade. So the idea that

551
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: they would be able to then take that premium draft

552
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: pick in the first round and maybe add another wide

553
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: receiver that is not an option as of now, so

554
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: that would be the only thing that I would look at,

555
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: And like is Rivers have a supporting cast to to

556
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: light it up. But ultimately I think it's it's a

557
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: great move for both sides. T Y Hilton's healthy now

558
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: and Paris Campbell is a good talent. Like that doesn't

559
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: bother me too much. This team has drafted well. Zack

560
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: Pascal came on last year, They've got Jack Doyle. I

561
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: think they're fine. They're remember first half of last year,

562
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: before their wide receivers got injured, they were winning almost

563
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: every week. It makes you wonder what's up with the

564
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Kobe Brissette moving forward. And there's a million Patriots rumors

565
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: out there right now, and one of them is, you know,

566
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: would they bring to Kobe Brossette back as a possibility?

567
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: I do like when the team go like completely opposite, Yeah,

568
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't want that one. Uh, when the teams go

569
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: completely opposite, Like Brissette is very careful Rivers. He doesn't

570
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: care like he's going for it, whereas the Bucks are

571
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: going completely opposite from Jamis Winston to like the most

572
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: careful quarterback in the league and Tom Brady and other

573
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: massive quarterback news. The Airlina Panthers are signing Teddy Bridgewater

574
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: to be their new quarterback. The deal is expected to

575
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: come in and around twenty million a year over three years.

576
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: From rap Sheet, Teddy Bridgewater is the quarterback of the Panthers.

577
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: So what does that mean? What about Cam Newton? What about?

578
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: What about Combine week when everybody was telling us that

579
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: they were expected to move forward with Cam there one

580
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: time superstar m v P. Well guess what rap Sheet

581
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: also reported Tuesday at the Panthers granted Cam Newton permission

582
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: to seek a trade. The discussion came at The decision

583
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: came after a discussion between the organization and the QB's agents.

584
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: Now that's not where the drama ends. Cam Newton with

585
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: his absolutely bizarre hieroglyphic uh font style that he uses

586
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: on social media. I can't believe he's still doing this.

587
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: This man is over thirty years old. He's got children,

588
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: use real letters, use the English language, use any language,

589
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: but not your own had this to have this to say,

590
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: stop with the word play. I never asked for it.

591
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: There's no dodging this one. I love the Panthers to

592
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: death and will always love you guys. Please do not

593
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: try and play me or manipulate the narrative and act

594
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: like I wanted this. You forced me into this. Love.

595
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: Cam Newton unhappy about the end of his time with

596
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: Carolina and perhaps more specifically, how the Panthers have gone

597
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: about it, and now we have to see whether he

598
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: draws trade interest or not. There is a lot of

599
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: sentiment and Steve Weisch talked about this on the network

600
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: today that nobody's gonna trade for him until he can

601
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: pass the physical and nobody can even take a physical

602
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: right now. Um, there's concerned. My brother Nick Westling texted

603
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: me and said, why doesn't a team high in the

604
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: draft just go ahead and take a gamble on Cam

605
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: Newton and then draft one of these young guys with

606
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: with the pick and and have their bases covered and

607
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: I think people to me, it reminds me of where

608
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was in two thousand, seventeen and eighteen, where

609
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: you just have no idea how it's gonna affect his future,

610
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: the arm injury and whether he's going to throw the

611
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: same or not. So I think as much as people

612
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: doubted whether Andrew Luck would ever play again, he came back,

613
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: and even in that first game or two we were

614
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: doubting it, he came back and ultimately was fine. We

615
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: just don't know which version of Cam Newton we're gonna get.

616
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: I thought this news was as jarring as the Brady news,

617
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: because the Brady news was coming at us for weeks

618
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: and weeks, and you knew that split was definitely one

619
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: of the potential possibilities. The Rivers news obviously has been

620
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: out there forever. This is a team that's been telling us,

621
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's even as recently as a couple of

622
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: weeks ago, that they're all in on Cam Newton, and

623
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: I kind of I thought that one of the more

624
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: stinging reports of the day were the reports of what

625
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, what his reaction was when he found this out.

626
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: I think he was totally blindsided by it. And this

627
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: is a guy that I definitely at times have been

628
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: annoyed by. The Cam Newton experience is not always something

629
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: that is easy to sign up for. But if you

630
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 1: watch like that, all or thing series with the with

631
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: the Panthers, I had a totally different opinion of what

632
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: Cam Newton meant to this team and into the whole

633
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: area in the region and where he's been for a

634
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: decade plus. And this split is about as messy as

635
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: it gets because I think that he's dealing with a

636
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: new coaching staff and a new group of people that

637
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: did not play straight with him. It's not you know,

638
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: I know, Cam Newton's not Tom Brady and Mark. You

639
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: hit it on the head. This was like the the

640
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: ugly messy ending that would have been like a nightmare

641
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: for something like this to happen with with Brady in

642
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Because the Panthers statement that they're trying to

643
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: trade him not only did you know Cam Newton not

644
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: like how it was positioned. It was just like an

645
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: announcement that his career is over there they said literally

646
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: in the statement, thus ending his career with the Panthers.

647
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, like, well, why don't you just

648
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: cut him? I mean, like they are going to cut him.

649
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: That that statement was an announcement that we are prepared

650
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: to cut here some things before the combine that they

651
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: were trying to trade him and that they couldn't get

652
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: anyone interested, and then I guess they decided to put

653
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: a public face that they're gonna keep them because they

654
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: didn't know how things were gonna go or not. But basically,

655
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: once they got to here today Tuesday, and they were

656
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: happy to get Teddy Bridgewater under contract, it was like, Okay,

657
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: now we're now we're done with cam and if if

658
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: we don't get a fifth round pick for him, we'll

659
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: just cut him in a couple of days. And at

660
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: this point, because of the points uh you made West

661
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: about the medical I think he's gonna get cut because

662
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: if you're a team like teams out there, but the Bears,

663
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and the Chargers come to mind, like why

664
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: not just wait for him to get cut and then

665
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: and then figure out what's next with him. He's in

666
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: a very difficult situation here because, like we're saying, with

667
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: the medical stuff, he needs to prove now to a team,

668
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: either a team that would trade for him unlikely, or

669
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: once he becomes a free agent, that he's healthy. And

670
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: the way things are set up now with the world

671
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: and the coronavirus is when does that happen? When or

672
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: when is he able to have a workout where he's

673
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: able to throw when I mean, maybe there are situations

674
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: where that it can end up working out, maybe things

675
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: change the way things are in the world right now,

676
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: uh three weeks from now or a month from now,

677
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: or eight weeks from now. But it seems like just

678
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: by the natural um the way things are with the

679
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: schedule of the NFL and how teams are going about

680
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: having to fill their roster, that he could be putting

681
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: almost an impossible situation where he could be a free

682
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: agent still when teams are ready to go to camp

683
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: because they couldn't wait for him, they had to make

684
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: a move. Yeah, that this feels like something that could

685
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: play on throughout the off season, and the off season,

686
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: depending on what happens with the coronavirus, could could extend

687
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: into what September who knows, don't know. And now you

688
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: look back to what the Panthers are going forward, they

689
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: are going to go with Teddy Bridgewater, who is not

690
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: only now come all the way back from that catastrophic

691
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: kne injury, he's now getting paid like a real NFL

692
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. That's what he's going to be for the Panthers. Uh, Mark,

693
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: I feel a little bit apprehensive about whether this team

694
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: is going to get what they are expecting for Teddy Bridgewater.

695
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: I love to be wrong. Everybody loves Teddy, but he's

696
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: got a lot of money to be their guy. I'm

697
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: with you. I I Teddy Bridgewater. The story is great.

698
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: No one would would debate that. I'm not convinced on

699
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: any level that it's an upgrade, and I'm not. I

700
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: don't believe it's an upgrade over a healthy Cam Newton.

701
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: I also a little bit at this point beguiled by

702
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: what the overall Carolina Panthers team building processes here, because

703
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: we've heard reports that everyone from Christian McCaffrey to whoever

704
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: else is available for trade. So is Teddy Bridgewater going

705
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: to be overseen? Um? A deep cut rebuilding scenario? Is

706
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: that what he's going to have to wade through as

707
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback? Uh? And maybe they thought that Cam

708
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: Newton was not gonna want to sign up for that.

709
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I just, you know, I don't know. If I'm a

710
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: Panthers fan, I don't feel that the quarterback position got better,

711
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: and I I'm probably tough for him and Teddy than some,

712
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: but I just to me, nobody through shorter passes in

713
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: the entire NFL then he did when he filled in

714
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 1: for Drew Brees. And part of that is just trying

715
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: to survive your quarterback going out, but it's also telling

716
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: about what he has as a skill set. And I

717
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: understand why the Panthers, We'll get a guy like Teddy

718
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: who's a game manager. You get the ball into the

719
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: hands of McCaffrey and d J. Moore and Curtis Samuel

720
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: will let him do things after the catch. I get that,

721
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: but you give away Cam Newton's upside whatever it is

722
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: at this point, I don't know for a guy who's

723
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: a game manager, that's that's tough for the fans to swallow.

724
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: I just get the feeling that maybe this is a

725
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: tear down for tear down sake with a new owner,

726
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: and it's this whole idea. They have a new owner

727
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: and a new coach. We want everything new. And that's

728
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: why I don't know. We we haven't had any like

729
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: serious reporting. I don't think about Christian McCaffrey being on

730
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: the block, But are we kidding me? This guy's twenty

731
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: four has had as good as start to a career

732
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: as a running back as anybody in twenty five years.

733
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: So he's on the block too. But what because he's

734
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: not from this current regime. The whole thing is just

735
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: a little bit dicey to me if I was a

736
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: Panthers fan. But they are determined to start things over

737
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: their way. Well, I think the whispers that we are

738
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: hearing are that they're going to try to straddle the

739
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: line between a pure rebuild and trying to stumble their

740
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: way into competing. So I think they're gonna try to,

741
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: you know, through that eye of the needle. But we'll see.

742
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: I think one you know, important thing for Bridgewater is

743
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: that he played under Joe Brady, who is their offensive coordinator.

744
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: Joe Brady was a Saints assistant in and so he

745
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: he saw Teddy Bridgewater up close. And the offense that

746
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: they want to run is kind of an offense predicated

747
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: on a point guard style type of player. Now Joe

748
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: Burrow would be the best case scenario of that, but

749
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: that is what Teddy Bridgewater is. Is like a wide

750
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: open hopefully if you're a Teddy Bridgewater fan with a

751
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: little bit of upside, and I think his contract has

752
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: been misunderstood. To me, that's not big time starting quarterback money.

753
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: That is actually bridge quarterback money. That's Tyrod Taylor what

754
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: he got in Cleveland money, but just updated for NFL

755
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: inflation three years later. And I don't think it's gonna

756
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: be a lot of guarantees. And I wouldn't be surprised

757
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: at all if Teddy Bridgewater is competing with the top

758
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: ten pick at the position. Uh come September, we will

759
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: see how it all plays out. In other quarterback news,

760
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: I mentioned it Drew Brees and the Saints. They officially

761
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: put pen to paper on a two year contract worth

762
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: roughly fifty million, per sources informed of the situation. Until

763
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: rap sheet, this was never a situation. Uh, never any

764
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: doubt here. Now. The only question Greg is whether Drew

765
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: Brees sees the amount of set snaps as he's seen

766
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: in the past, or with Taysom Hill, who just got

767
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: the first round tender, is really going to take a

768
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: bite out of his playing time? That is, I think

769
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: as we get closer to week one, assuming there is

770
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: a week one, uh, as we get closer to that,

771
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: that's that's what everyone's gonna be talking about about this team.

772
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna take on a lot of that assumes that

773
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, isn't your starting quarterback for the New England

774
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: Patriots coming on? Some whispers about that that would be

775
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: a fun, a fun story plot line for this podcast. Well,

776
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: I always said I would believe that Drew Brees would

777
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: take less than market value when I saw it, and

778
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: now I've seen it, because he took four or five

779
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: million dollars less than Ryan Tanel. It's a shock. Take that, Greg,

780
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: What can I do? Good? Good job by Drew Brees,

781
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: I guess. Uh, anybody else have any comments on Breeze?

782
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: I feel like we all saw that coming and he's

783
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: locked and loaded. And that's how you take care of

784
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: an all time great. You don't let him out the

785
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: door like he's just another guy, same old, same ole. Right.

786
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: I appreciate any quarterback narrative minus endless drama at this point,

787
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: and this one came in, and UH like it. Very nice,

788
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: very nice and smooth. That's how I like it. This

789
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: time around, the Raiders needed to get better on defense,

790
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: and they made a big took a big step in

791
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: that direction, signing former Rams linebacker to a three year

792
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: deal where thirty six million. Rap sheet reported bass salary

793
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: of eleven point seventy five. So he goes from l

794
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: A to Vegas gets a big pay bump. Uh. He

795
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: was playing on a one year deal for three million

796
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: last year, but he really jumped out. In fact, he

797
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: was where we are now Chris Westling or where we

798
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: were entering today. He was up to number seven on

799
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: the free agent Top one oh one Scientists list. So

800
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: this feels like a good get for I love this

801
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: linebacker pairing. They set up Nick quick Kowski, who's better

802
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: against the run, and Corey Littleton, who's great against the past,

803
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: great special teamer. This is a defense where I think

804
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: we've been waiting as long as we've done this podcast

805
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: for them to get an impressive front seven, and they

806
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: are finally working on one. They also signed Maleak Collins

807
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys. They signed Carl Nassib, who flashed for

808
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers the last couple of years. They added Jeff

809
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: Heath from the Cowboys at safety. They are finally adding

810
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: some NFL starting caliber talent to their defense. That had

811
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: also that you're gonna get Jonathan Abram back at safety,

812
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: and the little window of time that we saw him

813
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: in the in the early part of the city preseason,

814
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: he i thought he looked great. And you can see

815
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: Mike Mayock and his ability to it's not just beyond

816
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: TV and tell us which players should go where in

817
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: the draft. He's able to slowly build a cohesive defense.

818
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 1: And I look at the Rams flip side and say

819
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: how many more players can leave the Rams at this point?

820
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a bunch of signings today of x Rams.

821
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: They weren't all there last year, but that are no

822
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: longer in Los Angeles, and there's rumors that a variety

823
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: of offensive players on the Rams are available too. That

824
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: is this team that's sneaky close to looking totally different

825
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: than they were in the past in the wrong way.

826
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: Looks like they are being aggressive in the sense that

827
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: they are looking to turn the page. And they got

828
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl after a nice two or three

829
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: year run and now they're looking to perhaps maybe not

830
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: tear it down, but remodel the whole thing over. Reported

831
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: earlier this week on Monday that both Todd Gurley and

832
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks are on the market depressed assets as they are,

833
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: But as we saw David Johnson yesterday, that doesn't mean

834
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: those guys can't be moved if you get the right

835
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: guy on the GM app. Aren't too many of those

836
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: GM s, but there one was hit up yesterday on

837
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: the app. In other news, you know, it's good to

838
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: be a cowboy, even an ex cowboy, because it seems

839
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: like when you go to the Cowboys, it has a

840
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: habit of getting you paid, even if it's not the

841
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys doing it. We saw it with Randall Cobb getting

842
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: a nice deal from the Texans after the new New

843
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: Copkins trade yesterday, and Robert Quinn he gets a big

844
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: deal with the Chicago Bears. The edge rusher is signing

845
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: a five year, seventy million dollar deal uh with the

846
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. This from Rappaport and Tom Pella Sero thirty million,

847
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. Uh. He'd kind of fallen off the radar

848
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: playing with the Dolphins, but he landed with the Cowboys.

849
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: Last year had eleven and a half sacks, thirty four tackles,

850
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: two force fumbles, and four team games and then he

851
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: gets a pay day out of it. West You like

852
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: this signing. I was surprised how much money he got,

853
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: but that's not that has nothing to do with the

854
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: way he played last year. We're used to him coming

855
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: into September, having a great first month and then sort

856
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: of gradually declining as the season goes on. And last

857
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: year he was great from the minute he stepped on

858
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: the field until the end of the season. He would

859
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: explosive first step, just like he had early in his career,

860
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: and he had eleven and a half sacks and still

861
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: missed a few games. This guy was relentless as a

862
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: pass rusher. The Bears, the Khalil Mac Robert Quinn paring

863
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: is very intriguing for them. They do lose Leonard Floyd,

864
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: but they upgraded there. Greg. Maybe Greg, maybe Robert Quinn

865
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: will be somebody that helps Khalil Mack, who had a

866
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: bit of a down year by his standards, put a

867
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: better guy on the edge, and maybe that will lead

868
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: to um Mac regaining his dominant ways. If I'm ambarrass fan,

869
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm not loving this offseason. You signed Jimmy Graham too

870
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: good money, and you signed Robert Quinn too superstar money. Quinn,

871
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: he's coming off a great year, but if you look

872
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: at the last five years, he's average about five and

873
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: about seven sacks per season, and he has he has

874
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: back troubles. Yeah, I'm with Greg. I think that Chicago's

875
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: offseason has to be at this stage right now. You

876
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: look at what's happened this week, a directionless drift into darkness.

877
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what this team is doing. Fan base

878
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 1: know they're giving they're giving the fan base no hope.

879
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna try to go, you're gonna try

880
00:45:53,239 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: to solve all your issues hope. Oh no, hole, that's fine.

881
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with Robert Quinn, but what

882
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: is the Bears fans thinking about the overall team right now?

883
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: I would be very get Cam. Robert Quinn does not

884
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: allay the concerns with what's happening overall with this general

885
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: manager who feels outclassed by you know what, the general

886
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: manage the rankings right now. No, I think it's absurd.

887
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: It's year eight in a row, all right, Well, they

888
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: were one of the best teams in the league. You're

889
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: a season ago. They maybe could get things back on track. However, however, Greg,

890
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: you just made the point. They make so much sense,

891
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: uh to be a team that takes a gamble on

892
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: Cam Newton and see if it works out, and if

893
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't, you just start over at the position. I

894
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: like that, Greg, Well, if you look at quarterbacks, who's

895
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: left Cam Dalton If you want to throw for set

896
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: in Jamis And there's only like three teams that you know,

897
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Patriots, and I would throw the

898
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Bears in there. Don't forget Gino greg I mean Gina

899
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: week one Patriot starter, how about that? Oh my god? Uh.

900
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: And on the subject of the Bears, who the market

901
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: markets with a holy passion, they released. I like their fans.

902
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: I feel bad for their fans. I don't think they're

903
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: being treated fairly as a fan released former first round

904
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: pick Leonard Floyd cutting with Louis before his fifth season.

905
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: He had seven sacks as a rookie. But it is

906
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: not really happened for Floyd. So that was a whiff

907
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: by Bears management. In other news, the Chargers, you know

908
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: Jim Trotter, very serious man, Jim Trotter, and he's a

909
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: man that when he reports something, you know that it's

910
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Uh. He said on NFL network air waves

911
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: right as the Brady stuff was going on, that Tom

912
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: Brady took the Chargers out of the mix because he

913
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: wants to stay East and he wanted to stay close

914
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: to his son who's uh younger is young and Brady

915
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: didn't want to be on the on the left coast,

916
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: So the Charges instead have to settle for Brian Bulaga,

917
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: who signs a three year, thirty million dollar deal. Uh

918
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: move that Mark. I is gonna make their offensive line better.

919
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: They needed to do that. But there are another team

920
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: now when you look at where they're at, I do

921
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 1: not want to hear. I don't want to get us something.

922
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: You know how Mitch Drabsky and the Bears get your goat, Mark.

923
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: I don't need to hear. Tyrod Taylor is a guy

924
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: they actually believe in, uh throughout the summer entering Week one.

925
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: They gotta do better than that guy. I'm sorry, And

926
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: Tyron's a nice guy in a very good backup, but

927
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: please do not tell me that he's a guy they're

928
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: comfortable with as their starter. I'm we do. I would

929
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: pair the Brian Bulaga signing with Trey Turner and say

930
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: they've don't they've They've helped a critical week spot on

931
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: their roster by this offseason so far. But this is

932
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: not nineteen seventy six. We are not reading you know,

933
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: two paragraph Chargers updates two times a week in the newspaper.

934
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: You can't snow us over with Tyrod Taylor chit chat.

935
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: You've got to address the position Otherwise, savvy fans know

936
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: that the season is a lost cause, and you're gonna

937
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: be having the same conversation next March, assuming that there

938
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 1: is a next March. With what's happening in our world

939
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: right now. I like that. I like that's a good

940
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: point that you It was much easier to pull the

941
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: wool over a fan base is eyes in ninety six

942
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: than it is now. You've got to have answers. Fans

943
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: are savvyer well. Plus, the Chargers fans thought they were

944
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: maybe getting Tom Brady. They were basically the one team

945
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 1: that went all in on Tom Brady and they didn't

946
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: get him, which for the fans that are out there

947
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: are probably disappointed. Um. Speaking of over the hill, tight

948
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: ends still getting paychecks. Jimmy Graham got paid with the Bears,

949
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: and Jason Witten he's still an active NFL player because

950
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: he comes to terms on a contract with the Oakland Raiders.

951
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: It's a one year deal, rap Sheet reported. The Las

952
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: Vegas Review Journal first reported the deal. Uh So, the

953
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: Raiders add the thirty seven year old who got in

954
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: the end zone a few times, four times with the

955
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys last year, but we continued to get slower and slower.

956
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: But now he's reunited a little uh Greg, a little

957
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: bit of a Monday Night football reunion here of x

958
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: n F M m n F booth dudes, Grouden and Witten.

959
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: I am not looking forward to the press conference when

960
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: they're just like, we wanted to bring in a real

961
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: man to show these raiders what being a real football

962
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: player is all about. We're gonna we do not need

963
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: I don't need Mike Mayock to tell me that they

964
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: now have another coach on the field. I don't you know,

965
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't do much for me. Uh, do you guys

966
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: want to do a little uh twelve eight o'clock to

967
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 1: light please? Why not? Let's do it, Ricky. The forty

968
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: Niners resigned safety Jimmy Ward to a three year, twenty

969
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: and a half million dollar contract. He stay, he struggles

970
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: to stay healthy west but he can all coming off

971
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: his best season. I think he was. You know, their

972
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: front seven got all the credit for them, but he

973
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: was one of the better safeties last year. The Dolphins

974
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: agree with ex Eagles running back Jordan's Howard so a team. Mark,

975
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: You've made a good point on Twitter. One of the

976
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: strangest seasons ever the twenty nineteen Dolphins leading rusher Ryan Fitzpatrick.

977
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard, Well, he's a guy. Well, it's yeah, it's

978
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: We will see other teams where, especially with the way

979
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback position is, where a quarterback leads the team

980
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: and rushing. But we will go a thousand generations before

981
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback leads the team and rushing with two

982
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: hundred and forty three yards. Hopefully they can improve on

983
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: that next next week, Mark tough situation for the Blowhards

984
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: because Chase Daniel has reached an agreement with the Detroit

985
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: Lions on a three year, thirteen and a half million

986
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: dollar deal that includes avoidable clause that is some saucy

987
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: backup money. Blow Hard. He gone well, very trying morning

988
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: from the Blowhards and where there was a couple of

989
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: conference calls on just you know, how do we deal

990
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: with this going forward? But they the Lions also turned

991
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: around and shopped Kyle Sloterer off the roster, So people,

992
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: Loudhards are safe for now and one of the NFL's

993
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: highest most intriguing organizations. The Detroit Greg there's a brand

994
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: of veteran backup quarterback that straddles the line between we

995
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: hope he never has to play, yet we're still going

996
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: to give him four million dollars and Matt Shop and

997
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: Chase Daniels are sitting pretty right there they now at Greg.

998
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: Ryan Shazier has been moved to the reserved retired list

999
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: by the Steelers. Uh that uh points towards the end

1000
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: of his career. He's he's valiantly come back from that

1001
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: back injury, but his goal of getting back on the

1002
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: field seems like a long shot. Yeah, that's disappointing. I

1003
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: think if I'll take this moment to just remember Ryan

1004
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: Shazier like what he was like as a player, I

1005
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: think people forget what a dynamic, speedy, instinct of just

1006
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: fun linebacker he was to watch when he was healthy.

1007
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: D G a Reader and the Bengals um agree on

1008
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: a four year, fifty three million dollar contract. West what

1009
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: is going on? They also signed Trey Waynes. The Bengals

1010
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: are spending money, but the Bengals have been drafting these

1011
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: like refrigerator sized nose tackles in the mid rounds. The

1012
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: last few years and none of them have panned out,

1013
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: so they go get DJ Reader, who's one of the

1014
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: best in the NFL. At it the Trey Wayne's one

1015
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: blew my mind. I think that is the one where

1016
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: I saw the contract terms and thought the Vikings have

1017
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: been trying to hide this guy for four years and

1018
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals want to give him fourteen million a year.

1019
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis to the Redskins, Vic Beastley to the Titans,

1020
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: Joe schober to the Jacks, Blake Martinez to the Giants,

1021
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: Mario Addison to the Bills, David anya Mata to the Saints,

1022
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: and Darquis Denard headed to the Jaguars. Oh my goodness,

1023
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: eight o'clock to light complete congrat congrats the Dave Gentleman

1024
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: for putting together that Packers linebacker corps. Just gotta do it.

1025
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: I gotta do it West. How about now you let's

1026
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: let's now, let's now take some stock in what's happening.

1027
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: It is a new era for the NFL. Tom Brady

1028
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: is no longer a Patriot. Everything is different in the

1029
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: a f C. The Bengals have the number one overall

1030
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: pick and a generational talent potentially walking in that door

1031
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: free agency. We're being told that this is a new

1032
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: um way of doing business in Cincinnati. They are signing players,

1033
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: they're looking to improve that offensive cores sneaky, not too bad.

1034
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: Are you in? Are you getting close to and you're

1035
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: thinking about being in? Are you looking down in your

1036
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: family members back in the Midwest where Yet this is

1037
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: the first time I thought has been put in my

1038
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: head that this would be like an opportunity to get in.

1039
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: It had not occurred to me that this is something

1040
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: that I would do. I think of them the same

1041
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: way I always do, with a little bit of bemused detachment,

1042
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: hoping that they lose every week. You know, Wes, I

1043
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: just you know, I have to hit the hit the

1044
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: drum on this one again. You have people that you

1045
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: love in the Midwest, in the Cincinnati area and the

1046
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: on the west side of Cincinnati where you grew up,

1047
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: who when they wake up in the morning on football Sundays,

1048
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: they pull on their jerseys and they put on their

1049
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: caps and they have a great day when the Bengals win.

1050
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: And yet you, due to some rigid sense that you

1051
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: were wrong by this football team that doesn't really know

1052
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: who you are, You want them to lose and in

1053
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: in effect, make your family the people that you love unhappy.

1054
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I just doesn't. It doesn't check out the logic. Well,

1055
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: most of the people I love and my family and friends,

1056
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: they're like, they're not chumps. So they got out somewhere

1057
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: along the way over the last thirty years when it

1058
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: became obvious that the move was to get off the ride.

1059
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: And the other ones have enough going on in their life.

1060
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: Where the Bengals, they're like, their happiness does not rest

1061
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: on what the local football team does, So there they'll

1062
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: be fine. It's even I love that we've had this

1063
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: conversation four eighties seven times and the result has not

1064
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: moved one inch. Nothing has changing. And you know what,

1065
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Speaker 1: I'll never I'll never stop. I feel like because Tom

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00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: Brady is now finally out of the a f C East,

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00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: this is Dan's great white you know what, you might

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00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: be right, and you know it's especially cold blooded to

1069
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: hear West replying that way while he's wearing giant reflective aviators.

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00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: It just it makes you seem like like the T

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00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: one thousand assassin from a terminator. I want coming, all right,

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00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: so Ricky, I want to before we sign off. I

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00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: just want to t you up one more time. Is

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00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: there's this I heard one thing on NFL Network where

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00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: they're playing some radio call ins from w e I,

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00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: which is the big station or one of the big

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00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: stations up there for sports talk radio, and one especially

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00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: angry New England fan said, Hey, Patriots, I want to

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00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: remind you that this was a Red Sox town before

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00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: Tom Brady came, and you just signed your death warrant

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00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be a Red Sox town. Do you

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00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: think do you think do you think, Ricky Hollywood, that

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00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: New England fans will ever love the Patriots uh the

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00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: way they did during the Tom Brady era? Do you

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00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: think it was will officially essentially be a twenty year

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00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: period of time and then it we'll go back to

1087
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: the lay it used to be. Or did Tom Brady

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00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick change things forever? And knowing about how

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00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 1: that team is seen, I think it'll take a little

1090
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: while to bounce back. I really do. I think that

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00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: people are really upset that he left. I think, you know,

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00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: we are a Red Sox town in Boston for sure, Um,

1093
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: but we were a Celtics town and then Paul Pierce left,

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00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: and everyone said that they weren't going a route for

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: the Celtics anymore. I mean, come on, everybody comes around

1096
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: eventually and we're We're a sports town. Boston is one

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00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: of the biggest sports towns in America and it's going

1098
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: to stay that way. But I think the Brady news

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00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: is is really upsetting for a lot of people have

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00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: measured well thought out. I dismiss all of that. Dismiss

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00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: all of that, and in a cold way, no, that

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00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: was that was a lovely answer. I will note though,

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00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick is still there, and Bill Belichick is

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00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: a few years away from trying to break Don Shula's

1105
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: all time coaching wins record, which I believe he will

1106
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: hang around and try to accomplish. And so one half

1107
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: of the duo that made them what they are is

1108
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Well, that's that's fair, And I'm curious,

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00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: just I want to take a boat here is does

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: anyone here think the Patriots do not win the a

1111
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: f C East in right now? Oh? I think the

1112
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: heavy favorite. I mean, I'm not gonna go against the team.

1113
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Patriots. I mean, let's wait and see

1114
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: who they get a quarterback. But I have no problem.

1115
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: How about how about Stidham and Cam Newton combination? Right,

1116
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: you were just saying how you can't wait to be

1117
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: a Bucks fan this year? You got you know, sports

1118
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: big as. I'm gonna route on the Bucks too, But

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00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm a Patriots fan through and through there. I mean,

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00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: there will be no greater embarrassment than you know. All

1121
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: these Jets, Bills and Dolphins fans are in their house

1122
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: getting like super hammered tonight over this news. But the

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00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: Patriots might still just go twelve and four and win

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00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: the division. The other issue is these other three teams

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Speaker 1: Bills excluded because they've made improvements, have to actually learn

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00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: how to win games on their own. They're not just

1127
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: gonna be handed in NFL division because Tom Brady and

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00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: aging Tom Brady moved to Florida. It's not how I

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00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: learned nothing. That an assumption that because one random team

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00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: has a tenant six and or eleven five season like

1131
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: the Bills, oh, let's just pencil them in for eleven

1132
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,959
Speaker 1: more wins or twelve more wins, everything changes. And yes,

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00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: I am as as happy as I am. The Patriots

1134
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: will never be the same because they will never have

1135
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: Tom Brady again. But to write them off as an

1136
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: an FC East champion in twenty I cannot do that. Well,

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00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: let's look at the Patriots. Let's look all they played

1138
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. They weren't a

1139
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: good team. So it's not just about losing Tom Brady.

1140
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: This was not a good team from November on. Mmmmmmmmmmm

1141
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: the best team in that division. What a world. But

1142
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: these are these are the good days, guys. These are

1143
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: the days we look back and smile. Yeah, all of

1144
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: us at our separate houses and quarantine and Tom moving

1145
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: to come on, I'll see you America in a couple

1146
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: of hours. We gotta we gotta tape an episode of

1147
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: the Jeff le Nick and Rosenholty Project. Yeah, and they

1148
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: won't let me do it remotely. So when I die,

1149
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: you know who to blame. And speaking in which I

1150
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,959
Speaker 1: know I have to go. I have to go door

1151
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: to door and stop, start knocking on some doors and

1152
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: do some handshakes because this Brady Bucks thing happens. So

1153
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm a man of my word. The old Zeuzer keeps

1154
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: his words. So I Am going to brave it. And

1155
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people will be down for

1156
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: hugs and kisses and handshakes. There's only one way to

1157
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: find out. I gotta get to work. Feel free to

1158
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: call us when you're arrested for minutes from now. I mean,

1159
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: this is how you know there's no police anymore. That's

1160
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: a good point that actually opens up new horizons for

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01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: what this evening. There's no parking tickets. I'm not saying

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01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: it's worth it, but it's not nothing. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: to the Around the NFL podcast, presented by Into It

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01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: Quick Books, the official sponsor of the NFL. This is

1165
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: Dan Hand. Oh and remember wash your hands. And I

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01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: don't mean just the insides, the outside, cuticles, webs, any

1167
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: any type of connective how your tissue connects between the fingers.

1168
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: Get in there twenty seconds at least, warm water, soap,

1169
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: Get in there. This Dan Hands a signing off for

1170
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood

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01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: in their respective bunkers will be back tomorrow, the official

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Speaker 1: start of the league year till Wednesday eight