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Speaker 1: Good evening, everyone, welcome to Stinchfield. This President Trump heads

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Speaker 1: to the Middle East. The winning continues. We now have

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Speaker 1: a deal with China. This is great news. It's huge.

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Speaker 1: The tariffs now will be thirty percent on Chinese goods

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Speaker 1: It takes some, if not all, of the uncertainty out

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Speaker 1: of this that was making the stock markets so jittery.

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Speaker 1: It also proves to the world that the United States, China,

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Speaker 1: President Trump, and Jijing Ping's teams can communicate, negotiate, and

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Speaker 1: come to an agreement with each other. So this is

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Speaker 1: a ninety day deal as all of the details are

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Speaker 1: then worked out. But overall the markets were up big

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Speaker 1: This was President Trump.

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Speaker 2: The talks in Geneva were very friendly. The relationship is

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Speaker 2: very good. We're not looking to hurt China. China is

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Speaker 2: being hurt very badly. They were closing up factories. They

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Speaker 2: the relationship is very, very good. I'll speak to President

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Speaker 2: she maybe at the end of the week. We have

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Speaker 1: All great news. So again, this is about respect for

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Speaker 1: a set of the US economy that is so dependent

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Speaker 1: got to deal with the United Kingdom. That's great news.

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Speaker 1: Now we have a deal with China. I told you

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Speaker 1: last week. As these deals come through, the dominoes would

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Speaker 2: I spoke to Tim Cook this morning, and he's gonna,

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Speaker 1: And we look forward to that. I really do look

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Speaker 1: forward to that. We sure do. Now let me give

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Speaker 1: you one spot where I slightly disagree with President Trump.

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Speaker 1: President Trump calls our trade deficit with China, in particular

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Speaker 1: a national emergency. I actually look at trade deficits. It's

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Speaker 1: not the worst thing in the world. Think about it.

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Speaker 1: If we were exporting all of our goods to China

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Speaker 1: it's the exact opposite. When you think about a trade deficit.

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Speaker 1: The United States is the great buyer of goods and services.

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Speaker 1: We produce most of our own goods and services. Our

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the goods into this country. That's it.

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Speaker 1: So this gives us an advantage. Also adding to the

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Speaker 1: That adds to the dred deficit. I don't think it

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Speaker 3: To happen is it has to be fair for the

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Speaker 1: Well, they ignored their obligations because I believe Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: his family was on the take. China was enriching them

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Speaker 4: Stocks do looked to sore three percent of the open

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Speaker 5: Right now, markets around the world are rallying on.

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Speaker 6: The news as adding rocket fuel to the markets today

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Speaker 3: Investors are very eager to see the world's two biggest

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Speaker 1: I love it, and if you've got a four oh

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Speaker 1: In fact, there's a lot of work to get done

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Speaker 1: now the author of the new book Plan Read China's

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Speaker 1: Project to Destroy America. Our friend Gordon Chang is with us. Gordon,

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Speaker 1: it's great to see you. Welcome back. Thank you so much. Grant.

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Speaker 1: All right, do you have any warnings about this deal

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Speaker 1: or is it a good deal? Should we be cautious?

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Speaker 7: I think we should be cautious because what President Trump

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Speaker 7: for decades, actually centuries, and you know, we have seen

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Speaker 7: not only the Phase one trade deal that Secretary percent

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. I think what.

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Speaker 7: President Trump did was he offered the Chinese an off ramp,

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Speaker 7: probably the last off ramp before the Chinese become a

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Speaker 7: because the United States and the rest of the world,

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Speaker 7: Plus also is China's theft of US intellectual property, and

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Speaker 7: see if the Chinese actually take that off ramp and

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Speaker 7: end up in a good deal with everybody.

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Speaker 1: All right, So currency manipulation is one way they tip

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Speaker 7: Probably not the currency of manipulation right now, the remendy

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Speaker 7: But yeah, there are a lot of things that China

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Speaker 7: United States, no longer want to put up with that.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the details of this tariff deal is

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Speaker 1: the tariffs actually go to ten percent, but we're say

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Speaker 1: China senny fentanyl to profit off of. I actually believe

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Speaker 7: I agree with you one hundred percent. You know, Sijanping

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Speaker 7: made promises to stop the fentanyl trade to President Biden

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Speaker 7: China's total surveillance state, the fentanyl gangs couldn't operate without

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Speaker 7: the knowledge and approval of the Communist Party. Some of

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Speaker 7: by officials the Chinese fentanyl gangs. They launder their proceeds

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Speaker 7: through the Chinese state banking system. Chinese owned TikTok promotes

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Speaker 7: illicit drug use in the United States. The list goes

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Speaker 7: on and on. Grant, of course, this is deliberate policy,

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Speaker 7: and that means the Americans who die from what we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they sure are. Last question, I guess for you, Jijingping,

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Speaker 7: Tonight, sigh of relief. He's going to get through Christmas

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and President trumb has said that. That's why he

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Speaker 1: don't forget the book Plan Read by Gordon Chang. It's great.

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Speaker 1: All of his work is fascinating stuff. We appreciate when

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Speaker 1: the media's reaction was to all of this? Okay, how

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Speaker 1: stock market collapse. Stocks are back up above that point. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is representative Dan Goldman. Now he's not a member

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Speaker 1: What is he talking about. We now have clean coal technology.

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Speaker 1: We don't ever have to go back to dirty coal.

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Speaker 1: know about. And nobody's talking about nineteen fifty economy. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about economy moving into the future. President Trump, the

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Speaker 1: is moving at the speed of light. So Dan Goldbman

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Speaker 1: absolutely wrong there. Then ABC tries to spend this deal

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Speaker 1: as a loss.

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Speaker 5: When this is a breakthrough in talks between the world's

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Speaker 5: two largest economies. But it's also a dramatic retreat from

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Speaker 5: President Trump's one hundred and forty five percent tariffs that

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Speaker 1: Skip all right, So as you can see, trying to

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Speaker 5: You're saying, people who view got luxury and Jedi a

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Speaker 9: You're ABC fake news only only ABC. Well a few

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Speaker 10: A lot of people are stupid.

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Speaker 9: They say no, no, I insist start putting it, and

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Speaker 10: You know what, remember that Sam Snead, When.

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Speaker 9: They give you a putt, you pick it up and

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Speaker 10: We're second you.

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Speaker 11: This man, sorry, may we're at it and say.

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Speaker 5: Have you ever been given a gift worth millions of dollars?

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Speaker 9: And then he's not a gift to me, it's a

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Speaker 1: I don't want that man schooling the media. What dopes

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Speaker 1: President Trump is going to take the current air force

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Speaker 1: Turning now to the Democrats and how nutty they are.

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Speaker 1: All right, do you know they're still outside of this

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Speaker 1: Up brutal killers, gang members, bruisers, thieves, and rapists. Okay,

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Speaker 12: We're here because it's important to stop this, to draw

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Speaker 12: Well, we'll be here as long as it takes until

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Speaker 1: You gotta shake your head. This is not a winning argument.

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Speaker 1: And then Democrat leaders they expose themselves. This is representative Mackivor.

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Speaker 1: a call for violence. I really do. We will not

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Speaker 5: And as I calls out, because I've never been out

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Speaker 1: Water local standing right behind her, crazy Maxine Waters get

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Speaker 1: of this. All right, Joining me now, political consultant, former

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Speaker 1: from the Stone Zone. Roger Stone is with us. Roger,

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Speaker 1: it is great to see you. It's been too long,

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Speaker 1: my friend.

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Speaker 13: Great to be back with you and salute our many

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so, I'll bet you there's a few from Westchester

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Speaker 13: Well, first of all, looking at the average age of

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Speaker 13: this is very clear what's happened here. Three members of Congress,

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Speaker 13: two questions here. One, will they be prosecuted? And be

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Speaker 13: If any Republican acted like this in the days after

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Speaker 13: And then there's the mayor of Newark, Grant, who has

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Speaker 1: how do you justify this? You have been so instrumental

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Speaker 13: Roger, Yeah, it's very hard to understand where the votes

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Speaker 13: United States. All of this craziness about the gentleman who's

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Speaker 13: The old Democrat Party, the Party of John Kennedy, the

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Speaker 1: Now, if they keep it up, I think it will

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Speaker 1: because Americans just don't want this. Before I let you go,

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Speaker 13: No, the real point of court here is that what

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Speaker 13: whether it's a ceasefire between Pakistan and India, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Well, that's how involved he is. I wouldn't put it

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Speaker 1: past him either. Great stuff. As always, Roger Stone, I

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Speaker 14: I'm sure great to be with you again.

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Speaker 1: God bless you absolutely you two. All right, folks, We're

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Speaker 1: the last living American has been released from Habbas custody.

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Speaker 1: We get into that and a former Venezuelan hostage, Well,

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Speaker 1: What a scene that is, folks. That is Eden Alexander,

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Speaker 1: the last American slash Israeli hostage born here in the

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Speaker 6: What is interesting about this one is that Hamas essentially

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Speaker 6: And at this point Israel's completely resistant, according to Prime

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Speaker 15: News is that an Israeli team is heading back to

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Speaker 15: Cutter right now to resume negotiations that Cutter and Egypt

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Speaker 1: I'm not one for a ceasefire. You have to destroy Hamas.

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Speaker 1: on your screen there, Joe Saint Clair, the Air Force

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Speaker 1: veteran in the minneral is Wilbert Castaeda, an active duty

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Speaker 1: Navy seal, and then Renzo Castillo, who's a US permanent resident.

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Speaker 1: We've interviewed all of their families, so we want them home.

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Speaker 1: We're doing everything we can do to put pressure on

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration to get them home, and they've said

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Speaker 1: they're doing everything they can to make sure that they

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Speaker 1: get home. I want to bring in now a man

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Speaker 1: who was released by Maduro, who's part of the six

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Speaker 1: that Rick Grinnell brought home back in back in February

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Speaker 1: I believe it was, and his name is David Estrella.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he is back on US soil. David, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the program.

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Speaker 16: Welcome, thank you actually for this time. I'm glad to

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Speaker 16: be back home.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're so glad you're home. I want to hear

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Speaker 1: about your story. But first and foremost, the three gentlemen

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Speaker 1: that I put on the screen, were you with them?

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Speaker 1: Can you confirm they were alive when you left? I

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Speaker 1: guess in February or March when you came back to

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Speaker 1: the United States.

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Speaker 16: It broke up a little bit, but I think you

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Speaker 16: asked for about the three persons that you just mentioned,

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Speaker 16: the three guys.

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Speaker 10: I was actually with them. We were together.

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Speaker 16: Happens that at some point they moved all six of us.

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Speaker 16: There were six people at least in my group. Out

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Speaker 16: of those six, four were released and stay behind was

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Speaker 16: Joseph Casana in Saint Clair that were located in our aisle,

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Speaker 16: the Renzo Fabian another one permanent resident uh and there's

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Speaker 16: Jonathan Pagan Gonzalez as another US American, and Lucas Hunter

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Speaker 16: Orse also Whoreey Maselo bargains Is other Americans. They were

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Speaker 16: in another location, within a different building. But we were

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Speaker 16: all together at some point where we were there, all right, So.

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Speaker 1: It takes great solace that you had seen them alive

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Speaker 1: when Venezuela's refusing to give proof of life to these families.

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Speaker 1: Now take me back to your story. I know they

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Speaker 1: accused you of espionage, they accused you of of a

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Speaker 1: plot to kill Maduro. All of it was absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Again along the border Venezuela and Columbia seems where everybody

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Speaker 1: was taken from. Can you take me through what it

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Speaker 1: was like? Did they torture you? Did they treat you?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 1: How was it when you were in captivity? Well?

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Speaker 16: To start, I went to, uh, the the right channels.

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Speaker 16: I actually crossed the border handed my passport.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 16: They saw that I was an American, and they said

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Speaker 16: I need to do another interview with them. Since I

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Speaker 16: don't have anything to hide, I say, great, let's you know,

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Speaker 16: let's go ahead. And they asked me questions, who are

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Speaker 16: you going to see?

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Speaker 10: What you hear? Et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 16: And then they said, after an hour of questioning, they

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Speaker 16: said we need to continue this interrogation or this questioning

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Speaker 16: some other place. So three police officers National Police took me.

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Speaker 16: They drove about a quarter a kilometer, I will say,

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Speaker 16: and they stop. They put a hood over my head

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Speaker 16: and handcuffed me and they said that that was normal

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Speaker 16: and that they were going to take me to another place.

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Speaker 10: It's kind of weird. Uh, you get scared.

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Speaker 16: Because you've never been I mean with a hood over

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Speaker 16: your head and then handcuffed with no reason. They didn't

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Speaker 16: give you a reason why they were doing it, just

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Speaker 16: that they were going to interrogate you a bit longer

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Speaker 16: at another location.

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Speaker 10: So they did. While they doing that, they actually stole everything.

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Speaker 16: They went through my bag and each one actually gave

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Speaker 16: away anything they wanted from my bag. After that, they

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Speaker 16: actually handed me over to the they had seen people

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Speaker 16: as like the military interrogation like their CIA I guess

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Speaker 16: department or.

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Speaker 10: Group, and they took me and.

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Speaker 16: Hancoff and Hooded into another car into a plane and

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Speaker 16: they flew Meto Caracas because I was at the border

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Speaker 16: with Columbia at that time. They flew Meto Caracas and

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Speaker 16: they put me in At the time, I didn't know

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Speaker 16: what it was, but it wasn't office space and I

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Speaker 16: was there for two days.

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Speaker 10: Hooded Hancoff, you cannot talk anything.

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Speaker 1: You must have been scared to death of what could happen.

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Speaker 1: You don't know if they're going to kill you, and

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Speaker 1: obviously you're not a spy, so you don't know anything.

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Speaker 1: You don't have any information you could give them even

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Speaker 1: if you didn't want to give up information. So what

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Speaker 1: was that like to go through that?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 16: I knew they didn't know whether we were looking for

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Speaker 16: themselves because at no point, even from the day September

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Speaker 16: ninth that I was detained until my release on thirty

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Speaker 16: first of January twenty twenty five, they never well the reasons.

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Speaker 16: Later on we knew after four months they accused as everyone,

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Speaker 16: all the Americans and other people from other countries, because

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Speaker 16: it's not just Americans. You got, you named the country

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Speaker 16: and they have them there, everyone was a spy. It

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Speaker 16: seems like we didn't the word spy didn't fall within

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Speaker 16: what they wanted and what they were looking for. So

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Speaker 16: then a couple months later they actually identify us as

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Speaker 16: terrorists and then as mercenaries that were coming bringing arms

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Speaker 16: to the US from Miami, and that we were in

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Speaker 16: operation with the FBI, ns A, CIA.

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Speaker 1: All of it bulkcorn charges. Obviously, did they ever torture it,

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Speaker 1: did they ever hurt you?

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Speaker 16: Well, just having you not eating for two days, handcuff

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Speaker 16: you not removing it, sleeping on the floor or not

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Speaker 16: sleeping at all, sitting on a chair. The psychological abuse

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Speaker 16: is to a different level. Not just that, but there

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Speaker 16: were moments in which they pepper spray, hit you, smack you,

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Speaker 16: kick you, and you don't know who it was because

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Speaker 16: you have the hood right so more, I mean, I

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Speaker 16: had it easy compared to some of the other guys

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Speaker 16: that I that I was able to be a witness

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Speaker 16: how they would treat it and how they were actually

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Speaker 16: hit and spray. So yes, they I mean, and just

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Speaker 16: being in a cell twenty four to seven sell, that's

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Speaker 16: only two step by five steps in which you cannot

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Speaker 16: leave out.

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Speaker 10: You cannot. You just see the sun, the moon and

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Speaker 10: the sun.

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Speaker 1: I said.

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Speaker 16: You don't know times or anyone. They don't give you

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Speaker 16: any information. So it's hard.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever did you ever give up hope that

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Speaker 1: America would come get you? And do you think that

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Speaker 1: America is doing everything they can to get the others

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Speaker 1: left behind?

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Speaker 16: Well, like they said, from day one, they said, nobody

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Speaker 16: knows you're here. We never stamp your passport, you don't exist.

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Speaker 16: We can do with you anything we want. We can

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Speaker 16: put you in a hole right now. We've done it

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Speaker 16: in the past. Put you in a hole on the ground,

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Speaker 16: shoot you, bury you. Nobody knows we will you know,

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Speaker 16: nobody knew you were here, and actually got to a

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Speaker 16: point that you probably are right because nobody was to

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Speaker 16: let go. Was actually surprised, not even into the last second,

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Speaker 16: the last minute in which we knew that we were

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Speaker 16: leaving when I saw the plane. But it's good that

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Speaker 16: President Trump actually ten days in office, he actually did

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Speaker 16: what he you know what he did.

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Speaker 10: He got us free.

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Speaker 16: But I'm still thinking about the guys that are left behind.

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Speaker 16: I think the government should push more for the government

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Speaker 16: of Maduro to release these individuals. And not just that,

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Speaker 16: but they know that they that the government already knows

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Speaker 16: that they're there because we are outweeled the witness for them.

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Speaker 10: So why they're not moving, why they're not doing anything.

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Speaker 1: They certainly know now because we've been covering on this

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Speaker 1: network to great legs, and we're hopeful that that President

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Speaker 1: Trump where Cornell, can get back in there and rescue

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Speaker 1: the remaining hostages. But David Estralla, I'm glad you're okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm grateful for you coming on and telling the story.

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Speaker 1: Anything we can do to continue to raise awareness to

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Speaker 1: those others that are still being held plays a big

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Speaker 1: role in getting them home. I hope. Anyway, David Estrella,

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Speaker 1: thank you and God bless you.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for your time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks absolutely honestly, folks, I could do a whole other

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Speaker 1: segment with that, man. I have so many questions. We

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Speaker 1: could do an hour talking about what it's like to

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Speaker 1: go through that. I've never done that for a show.

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Speaker 1: Maybe all right, doing what Biden could never do. Lowering

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Speaker 1: prescription drug prices, it's coming and all thanks to President Trump.

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Speaker 1: That is next. Welcome back everyone. President Trump's prescription drug

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Speaker 1: executive Order now says America must be a favored nation.

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Speaker 1: Here's President Trump.

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Speaker 2: But it's called most favored nation. We are going to

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Speaker 2: pay the lowest price there is in the world. We

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Speaker 2: will get whoever is paying the lowest price. That's the

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Speaker 2: price that we're going to get. So remember that. So

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Speaker 2: we're no longer paying ten times more than another country.

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Speaker 2: Whoever is paying the lowest price, we will look at

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Speaker 2: that price and we will say that's the price we're

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Speaker 2: going to pay.

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Speaker 1: You could literally see an eighty percent drop of the

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Speaker 1: cost of prescription drugs. Now here's what's fabulous about this move.

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Speaker 1: In many respects, this is not some move the Conservatives

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Speaker 1: would come up with. This is a Democrat plan. Okay,

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Speaker 1: This is government putting its fingers on the scales of

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Speaker 1: the market. Now I'm fine with it, because government already

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Speaker 1: has its fingers on the scales of the market when

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Speaker 1: it comes to healthcare and prescription medications through Medicare and Medicaid.

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Speaker 1: So President Trump's got to do what he's got to do.

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Speaker 1: But what is this going to do for the Democrats?

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Speaker 1: We're going to try to accuse him of what coming

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Speaker 1: up with their own plan. They can't. They will try,

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Speaker 1: I promise you, But this plan might have come off

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Speaker 1: the desk but Warren, which in many respects makes it

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Speaker 1: very funny to me, and I applaud it. All right

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Speaker 1: on with me now, Chief of Disaster and Emergency Medicine

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Speaker 1: for the Wellness Company, Doctor Kelly Victory is with us.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Victory, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 17: Thanks as always for having me Grant.

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Speaker 1: All right, what do you make of this plan?

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Speaker 17: I think it's a very bold move on the part

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Speaker 17: of the president, and I would expect it to get

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Speaker 17: broad bipartisan support. As you rightly point out that Democrats

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Speaker 17: have actually wanted to do this for years. Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 17: himself had proposed something very similar. It remains to be

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Speaker 17: seen exactly how it will be operationalized, but fundamentally it

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Speaker 17: will allow us to drive down drug prices. The harsh

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Speaker 17: reality is that for decades Americans have been raped over

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Speaker 17: the price of prescription drugs. The federal government did a

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Speaker 17: study in twenty twenty one looking at I believe, Australia, France,

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Speaker 17: and Canada and found that Americans pay two to four

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Speaker 17: times more than those countries for the exact same prescription.

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Speaker 17: This is ridiculous. In the pharmaceutical companies would say that

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Speaker 17: the extravagant the cost is a result of R and

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Speaker 17: D and marketing those sorts of things, But why in

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Speaker 17: the world should Americans pay a disproportionate amount for that

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Speaker 17: R and D for example. So I think it's a

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Speaker 17: bold move. I'm not sure if you will be able

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Speaker 17: to affect this across the board, or if the executive

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Speaker 17: order will just apply to Medicare and Medicaid, which are

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Speaker 17: federally funded federal programs as opposed to having any involvement

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Speaker 17: with private insurers.

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Speaker 10: But it's a first good step.

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Speaker 1: You raise a very good point. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it could even be enforced in the private market. You

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Speaker 1: certainly can enforce it when it comes to Medicare Medicaid.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of just what you mentioned, this is your friend

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Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy Junior, the Secretary of Health of Human Services,

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Speaker 1: talking about the disparity of America versus the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world.

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Speaker 11: We have four point two percent in the world's population.

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Speaker 11: We our country represents seventy five percent of the revenues

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Speaker 11: for pharmaceutical companies. We spent in our country eleven one

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Speaker 11: hundred and twenty six dollars per capita on drugs. In

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Speaker 11: Britain they's been about two hundred and forty. They spent

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Speaker 11: one fifth of what we do. And this is true

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Speaker 11: across Europe.

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Speaker 1: So you know the pharmaceutical companies. Doctor Victor will say, well,

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Speaker 1: this is research and development. It's why we have to

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Speaker 1: spend as much. But why does this not just America's

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Speaker 1: shoulders the research and development? Correct?

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Speaker 17: And that's what I'm saying, there's no why are we

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Speaker 17: paying a disproportionate amount. So this executive order that the

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Speaker 17: President has signed would mean that if a drug company

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Speaker 17: is selling any particular drug, I don't care if it's

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Speaker 17: ozempic or a blood pressure medication or whatever. If they

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Speaker 17: are selling it in France or Australia or Canada at

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Speaker 17: a fraction of the price that they've been selling it

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Speaker 17: to us, he is going to demand that they offered

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Speaker 17: to us at that same low price.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 17: Even if this is done just with Medicare, it would

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Speaker 17: make a substantive difference in the price for seniors, and

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Speaker 17: it could theoretically drive down drug prices by as much

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Speaker 17: as as a president said, I think thirty to eighty percent,

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Speaker 17: depending on exactly how broadly it's applied, And so I

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Speaker 17: support this. What Robert Kennedy was saying there. With regard

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Speaker 17: to the amount of money that we spend as Americans

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Speaker 17: on prescription drugs versus the rest of the world is twofold.

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Speaker 17: It's in part because of this disproportionate amount that we

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Speaker 17: are funding the pharmaceutical companies, but it's also a result

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Speaker 17: of the stunning ill health of Americans and the fact

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Speaker 17: that eighty percent of Americans have a chronic disease. Seventy

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Speaker 17: four percent of American adult are overweight or obese, forty

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Speaker 17: percent of adolescents have pre diabetes, and on and on.

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Speaker 17: Other countries simply are not suffering from the weight of

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Speaker 17: this chronic disease burden. So I think it is twofold,

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Speaker 17: and I'm hopeful that the MAHA movement, what Bobby Kennedy

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Speaker 17: is doing along with President Trump, will make a big

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Speaker 17: difference in the health of Americans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it will make eight differences. They take

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Speaker 1: a little while, but I think the message is starting

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Speaker 1: to get out and the changes that are being made,

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Speaker 1: we'll start to see differences here at least, I hope.

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Speaker 1: So Chief of Disaster and Emergency Medicine for our great

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Speaker 1: friends over at the Wellness Company, doctor Kelly Victory, it's

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Speaker 1: always good to see you.

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Speaker 14: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Grant absolutely you know. President Trump talked about oh Zempick.

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Speaker 1: He said he's got a billionaire friend of his who

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Speaker 1: is totally neurotic, is using the weight loss drug, and

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Speaker 1: he told them it's not working. When the weight loss

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Speaker 1: drug is eighty eight dollars in England but eleven hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars month here in the United States. Trump told him

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Speaker 1: it's not working. Only President Trumphy's great, All right, coming back,

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Speaker 1: we get into how you can make yourself healthy again

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Speaker 1: without ozembic. By the way, welcome back everyone. You ever

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Speaker 1: heard of sludge blood, trust me, you don't want it.

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Speaker 1: Our friends over at energized Health dot Com put this

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Speaker 1: video together for us.

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Speaker 6: Watch your blood should actually be this consistency like water.

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Speaker 18: That's right, because blood is actually ninety two percent water.

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Speaker 18: When we loose hydration out of the blood, it becomes

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Speaker 18: like this. It is absolutely the root cause of high

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Speaker 18: blood pressure, of actually having a brainian urysm.

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Speaker 10: Or a stroke.

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Speaker 17: So if you want to go from this to this,

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Speaker 17: come and join us on our.

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Speaker 1: Five five five all right, we told you about the

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Speaker 1: I want to bring back in the founder of Energized Help,

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Speaker 1: John Jubilee, is with us. John, Welcome to the program. Grant,

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Speaker 1: great to be here. All right. So sludge blood does

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Speaker 1: not sound good.

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Speaker 18: No, it's it's not good, Grant, it's dangerous. The great

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Speaker 18: news is it's easy to reverse. But the bad news

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Speaker 18: is that when you lose your hydration, guys, in your

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Speaker 18: cells and in your body, and that blood thickens up

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Speaker 18: like that, you are one step away from a heart attack,

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Speaker 18: from a stroke or a brain aneurysm. And Grant a

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Speaker 18: good friend of mine, a dear friend, a twenty year

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Speaker 18: lifetime friend. We raised our children together. He had six children.

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Speaker 18: I have eight children. He dropped dead on his forty

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Speaker 18: seventh birthday because of a brain aneurysm and because of sludgeblood.

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Speaker 18: And he's one of those sweet men that would just

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Speaker 18: pat me on the leg and pat me on the

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Speaker 18: back and say, John, I know you want everyone to

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Speaker 18: do your protocol because you know, you think the whole

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Speaker 18: world needs it. He said, But I'm fine. My blood

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Speaker 18: pressure is just a little bit high. You know, I

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Speaker 18: just got a little bit of sludge blood. But on

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Speaker 18: his forty seventh birthday, Grant drop dead of a brain aneurysm.

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Speaker 18: That's what can happen with sledge blood. So, guys, if

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Speaker 18: you think just a little bit of high blood pressure

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Speaker 18: is not a big deal, I have news for you. You know,

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Speaker 18: there was a funeral of a dear friend of mine

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Speaker 18: because he thought just a little bit of high blood

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Speaker 18: pressure just a little bit of Sledge blood would not

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Speaker 18: harm them. But he has six children, you know, that

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Speaker 18: don't have their father, and a wife that's a widow

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Speaker 18: today because of just a little bit of Sledge blood.

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Speaker 1: So this gets back to intracellular hydration, which is all

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Speaker 1: about the Energized Health Protocol. I lost fifteen pounds on it.

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Speaker 1: I told you before I started, I was struggling with

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Speaker 1: high blood pressure at times. It wasn't always constant, but

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Speaker 1: it was at times all that went away from me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I had Sledge blood or not,

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Speaker 1: but I do know the Energized Health Protocol certainly helped this.

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Speaker 1: My five five five challenge gives people a real good

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Speaker 18: John right Well and Grant I would even say, just

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Speaker 18: as important, we're gonna teach you what not to do.

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Speaker 10: What are the five things?

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Speaker 18: Every one of us, Grant, every one of the millions

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Speaker 18: of people watching us, You've all made these same five mistakes.

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Speaker 10: How do I know that?

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Speaker 18: Because I'm a pretty smart guy, and I made these

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Speaker 18: five mistakes for ten years when I was trying to

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Speaker 18: get healthy. You know, I thought these were things I

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Speaker 18: should be doing. But I'm gonna share with you, Chelsea

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Speaker 18: and I the five things. Never do these five things again.

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Speaker 18: If you really want to get healthy and you.

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Speaker 1: Want to be healthy for your whole life.

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Speaker 18: I'm proud to tell you, guys, I'm going to be

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Speaker 18: sixty five years old this year, sixty five years young.

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Speaker 1: I feel amazing.

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Speaker 18: Not one doctor visit for twenty eight years, but I

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Speaker 18: had to learn what.

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Speaker 10: Are the five things to never do again?

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Speaker 18: And I will be sharing with these with you on

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Speaker 18: the My five five five Challenge, the My five to

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Speaker 1: All Right. It's like a country song, it's not what

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Speaker 1: this case as well. John Jubilie, I love your backdrop there.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, fifteen pounds in just two weeks. All right, folks,

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Speaker 1: These euro leaders insist they weren't hiding a bag of

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Speaker 1: cocaine from the cameras. The internet disagrees. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The video looks pretty bad too.

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Speaker 14: This is next, folks.

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Speaker 1: You see this video. This is Macrone of France, Keres

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Speaker 1: Starmer of the United Kingdom Kingdom, and Frederick Murrs, the

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Speaker 1: Chancellor of Germany. Apparently there's a cocaine bag on the

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Speaker 1: this right there. If you see it, grab it now.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the picture of where it is, because

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Speaker 1: that's just it hidden. So there you see a cocaine

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Speaker 1: bag in about four seconds and that video he grabs it. Now,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying they looked like they

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Speaker 1: were on something. I don't know. I wouldn't be shocked

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Speaker 1: for Macrone. I would about Starmer and Murrs, but McCrone

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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me. Hey another quick note, What a day

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Speaker 1: for my Dallas Mavericks. Mavericks fans everywhere are celebrating a

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Speaker 1: one eight percent chance of getting the number one pick

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Speaker 1: in the NBA Draft. The Mavericks got it after trading Luca.

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Speaker 1: Now everybody