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Speaker 1: I welcome to episode A hundred and twenty three with

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Speaker 1: Maddie Poppy who one American idol? Look at you? It's funny.

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Speaker 1: I'll watch you on your insot stories and you have

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Speaker 1: where you can't people can't send comments to you. I know,

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Speaker 1: I do, Um, what did you want to send me a

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Speaker 1: a comment? A couple of times I wanted to comment

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Speaker 1: on something but there was no way to comment. I know. Well,

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Speaker 1: because here's the thing. I get so many people that

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Speaker 1: are just like ha ha, and it's a lot of

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Speaker 1: d MS to go through. Yeah, but what I do

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Speaker 1: is you can have it set up where only your

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Speaker 1: friends where you can just see their messages. But then

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Speaker 1: if you want to look in and see everybody else's

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Speaker 1: you can. Is that under message requests you have a

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Speaker 1: blue checkmark? Right? Yeah, okay, you're good, but you don't

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Speaker 1: have to show me after. Yeah, but the thing is

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Speaker 1: you I would say, you know, I can send your

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Speaker 1: messages instead of just block them out. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know I need to. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: look through and see if any like verified people sent

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Speaker 1: me messages, but I don't know how to do that

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Speaker 1: there away. Yeah, Okay, you're gonna have to show you

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Speaker 1: after I can't wait. Has anybody cool reached out to you? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Brooke White remember her from season? I think she was

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Speaker 1: on Taylor Hicks season. She was my favorite. Taylor Hicks

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Speaker 1: was my favorite. Yeah, broke a heead, blonde hair, country

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Speaker 1: piano piano kind of thing. Uh she did. Um, trying

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Speaker 1: to think there are a couple of other people from Idol,

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Speaker 1: but I can't anybody that's not from Idol go. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I saw you on the show and I thought you

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Speaker 1: were pretty cool. Um. Oh, man, I sound like a loser.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of anybody off the top of my head.

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Speaker 1: I'm a loser, loser, recognized loser. Yeah, you got. You

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Speaker 1: seem busy, You seem like I am. You seem like

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Speaker 1: every time I look, you're somewhere else doing something else.

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Speaker 1: I am. It's like everything's like hitting me all at once.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's great, but it's like so overwhelming, you know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I can't really give to anything because

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Speaker 1: it's like so much happening at once. The last time

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Speaker 1: last time I saw you was the finale and that

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Speaker 1: was it, and then you just kind of disappeared into

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Speaker 1: the abyss of winning American idol. So what I wanted

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Speaker 1: to really is what happens after the show, because you win,

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Speaker 1: and and by the way, if you go check the interviews.

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Speaker 1: I did a lot of press and I said, if

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Speaker 1: they're voting based on who performed the best, Maddie Poppy

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Speaker 1: should win. And I said that that's why I said, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, and you won, and I thought it was

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Speaker 1: fantastic than you got me a little bit of trouble though,

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Speaker 1: he was. It is a very touching message. I've really

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Speaker 1: I really thought the message you're on Instagram was very kind.

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Speaker 1: But when you said I told you that I did

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Speaker 1: tell you you're my favorite, I guess I'm just real.

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Speaker 1: I just who who yelled you? I got yelled at twice?

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Speaker 1: So listen to this. First of all, no one yelled.

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Speaker 1: No one yelled, they screamed, they were everybody was cool,

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Speaker 1: but they were like, oh, you shouldn't tell people. But

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Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be real and tell people. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I really feel about them. And Maddie was my favorite

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Speaker 1: of all the contestants. Stylistically. I didn't know you at first,

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Speaker 1: but your music, I thought, this is the person that

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Speaker 1: I'm drawn to. She's really good and I love how

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Speaker 1: she sounds. And then when we were doing interviews for

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Speaker 1: the final episode, they had told me that you and

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Speaker 1: Caleb were dating. They had even said, hey, you can

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Speaker 1: poke around a little bit and see if they'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it, which Caleb was okay about it, but you

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Speaker 1: told to talk about it. So I tweet, Hey, guess

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Speaker 1: what they're dating and they're in the top two. My

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Speaker 1: phone blew up from Idle going down, and I was like, what,

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Speaker 1: take it down. And as soon as I took it down,

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Speaker 1: three minutes later, you get they announced it on TV.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, three minutes okay, because I saw your tweet

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Speaker 1: that said I told you they were dating. But I

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Speaker 1: was like, when did he say anything about three minutes prior?

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Speaker 1: Didn't never take it down? That is funny. But I

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Speaker 1: was never told to not talk about it. As a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, I was told it's okay to see

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Speaker 1: what they'll say about it. That's okay. Yeah, No, I

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Speaker 1: mean that wasn't us. We didn't know, And you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody didn't suspect it. What people

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Speaker 1: they must have just thought we were like best friends.

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Speaker 1: Because we would post pictures all the time with each other,

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Speaker 1: you know, and we were constantly hanging out, like there

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Speaker 1: a restaurant. No one ever said, like Maddie and Caleb.

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Speaker 1: You know why because he's the quintessentral central country boy

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Speaker 1: and you're the singer songwriter, and the two just don't

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Speaker 1: normally go together. Absolutely no. We tell each other that

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Speaker 1: I would like I would never go for like a

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Speaker 1: But it just works. Well, look at you too, and listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy that you're here. You look good. Thanks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you have a voice? You're sleeping? Are you going

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Speaker 1: to sing? I actually do have a voice. I'm waiting

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Speaker 1: for like another cold to hit me, you know, but

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Speaker 1: it hasn't yet. You win the show. You look surprised.

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Speaker 1: But then what happens that night? So that night it

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Speaker 1: was crazy. They took us right off. We did a

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Speaker 1: like thirty minutes of press and then we got into

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Speaker 1: this car and they Radio Disney was right there started

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Speaker 1: filming me then and hasn't stopped filming me first a

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Speaker 1: documentary I think they're making and um. And so after that,

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Speaker 1: we got in two car and we got on the

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Speaker 1: private jet. I got to see my family for like

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Speaker 1: five minutes at all. No, no, wow, yeah, thats a

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Speaker 1: little bit. It does suck, suck. And then you go,

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Speaker 1: do you get to sleep or do you can start

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Speaker 1: doing press almost immediately in the morning. Well, we flew

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I didn't think about it.

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Speaker 1: So I took all my makeup off in the plane

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Speaker 1: and then I like we got off the plane, They're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: and I was like what. So I like slapped to

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Speaker 1: the night before, and it was like it was a mess.

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Speaker 1: We Caleb looked great. I looked awful, but I was

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Speaker 1: just like here we are. So you go and you

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Speaker 1: do press all day? Do you stay in New York

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Speaker 1: So they were going to fly at Caleb back home

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Speaker 1: really nice. Also, it's a good story too, that you

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Speaker 1: guys are together. It makes the story like, oh, check

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Speaker 1: it out. So I would see why they would keep

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Speaker 1: him around as well, not only for you, because you

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Speaker 1: guys obviously enjoy each other company, but it's a cooler story.

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Speaker 1: There's multiples and numbers. Yes, yeah, I was thinking that too,

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Speaker 1: Like I think the producers have got to be happy

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Speaker 1: with the way that like how many curve balls, like

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Speaker 1: the finale through at the audience. You know, I just

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Speaker 1: said multiples and numbers. I'm the dumbest statement I've ever said.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even catch it. So you do you win

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Speaker 1: straight cash though? Because I read you went Is that

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Speaker 1: I do, But I have to set up like an

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Speaker 1: you have a savings account right now? Yes? You do?

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Speaker 1: Did you have it before the show. Yes, did they

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Speaker 1: teach you how to because for me it was a problem.

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Speaker 1: I come from an absolutely poor background. I don't know

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Speaker 1: kind of says, hey, you're here, do here's what you do.

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Speaker 1: A little bit, you put it here, you save it.

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Speaker 1: Do you have someone did someone step in from you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: Freemantle or or Idol or you know, well Idols pretty

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Speaker 1: I was telling people before I was doing all these

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Speaker 1: Before I was recording in my basement and I was

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Speaker 1: like doing like spreadsheets of how, you know, how many

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Speaker 1: CDs I had to sell to, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go below this two yet? Not yet.

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Speaker 1: Do you worry that you'll lose some of your emo

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Speaker 1: edge if you're not emo anymore? Em Yeah, email doesn't

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Speaker 1: be punk, but you you're definitely an emotional style. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I worry about losing my edge in other ways. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I worry that, you know, I'm too inside the industry

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Speaker 1: you know very much. And and so I'm I'm looking

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Speaker 1: looking at it as I would, you know, hear it

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Speaker 1: and you know this, this isn't I think, Yeah, I won't.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I know what you mean. I don't ever

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Speaker 1: want to lose that either, because you know, I just

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Speaker 1: don't want to get caught up in the system and

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Speaker 1: then let it all change me. The hardest thing is

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Speaker 1: to remain real when everybody else around you is fake.

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Speaker 1: So that's why you have to put really real people

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Speaker 1: tell you when it's real bad. And so it's it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting time for you because you know, you're

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Speaker 1: going from the girl in Iowa two big TV show.

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Speaker 1: Now it's I mean, I don't even know what you're

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Speaker 1: I I'm just lucky. You know, I've got like management

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Speaker 1: the judges or the producers. The producers for sure, because

425
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 1: I thought they were in control of everything. I literally thought, um,

426
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, just by things you would hear people say backstage,

427
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 1: and um, you know, Hollywood Week, the producers come in

428
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 1: front of the judges and look at all, you know,

429
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 1: and approve of, like who they're who the judges are

430
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: gonna cut or whatever. And so I always thought, oh,

431
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 1: there's no way, you know, the producers are picking everything,

432
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: and and I thought, oh, the judges have these sheets

433
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: in front of them. I'm sure they say like put

434
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: this person through, cut this person, and and so I

435
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 1: always cared about the you know, the because I was thinking,

436
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, the producers know what makes a good TV show.

437
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 1: That's why the producers exactly and they know everybody's stories. Um,

438
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: but the judges, you know, the judges aren't. Producers are

439
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: aren't putting this out for ratings. The producers are. So

440
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 1: I was always trying to please the producers over everybody

441
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: like I would like. I remember for Top fifty it

442
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: wasn't aired, but I say me and Bobby McGee, well

443
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you weren't there yet, okay. But um, but

444
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 1: like I went into the producers and they didn't like it,

445
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: and I was freaking out because I was like, oh

446
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm exactly and so I's like I have

447
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 1: to please them, you know. Um, such an old solo

448
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: did go and sing Janish Choplin. Yeah, I wish I

449
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,479
Speaker 1: would have aired it, you know, but the fact they

450
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: didn't means you can still play it and even you know,

451
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 1: you won't want to do a lot of covers at

452
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: least for a while, because you just did a lot

453
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,239
Speaker 1: of covers. You know. I think the hardest thing when

454
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: leaving one of these shows because I have a lot

455
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: of friends that have one American idol or been in

456
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: the top two or three Lauren Elena. I saw Scottie

457
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 1: McCoury today. Um, so you know you want to get

458
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: away from singing other people's songs because you feel like

459
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 1: that's how you got here. Now you have to shake that,

460
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: make your own voice. But the cool thing about that

461
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: is you can do that into it three years and

462
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: cut the Janis Shalplin song if you love it and

463
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: it's cool again. Yeah I've never even thought about that.

464
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: Or do you feel the pressure now to not do

465
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: anything except your own and buy your own original music

466
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: because obviously you didn't write this single, but it's not

467
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: a song that everybody knows it can be your song.

468
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah no, right now, I'm like so excited too, um

469
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: to write more and and just to record, you know,

470
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: my own stuff, because this song is great. But it's

471
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: so I I've never released anything that I didn't write.

472
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: You know. I released like an EP that was seven songs,

473
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: and I wrote all of them myself and did everything,

474
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: and so I could feel it more, you know, when

475
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: I was performing, It's like and I could tell the

476
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 1: story why I wrote the song. But with this song,

477
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: I really don't have a story to tell, you know,

478
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: and I don't. I can't really. I mean, I can

479
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: relate with it because it's kind of like my life,

480
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: like how I got up and left and kind of

481
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: pursued this dream, but you know it's not my words.

482
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: Did your music sell whenever you want on Idol? Yeah? Yeah,

483
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: it actually did. It's from like I can't even stand

484
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: to listen to it because it was from it's from

485
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: two years ago. But um, yeah, I'm selling a lot

486
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: of cts. My parents are back home, like shipping them

487
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: out and stuff. Yeah, and they're they're on iTunes to

488
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: like when my um my PayPal or whatever, when the

489
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: iTunes like it's skyrocketed, like so iTunes, pay your PayPal. Yes,

490
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: and you made some good money off that. Yeah, that's good.

491
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: Is this song the one you did the original you

492
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: did in the finale? Don't ever let your children grow

493
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: up this name of it? Right? Yeah? Um? Is this

494
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 1: song on that record? Yes? Oh you had to make

495
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: a killing then, yeah, yeah, just so we should up. No,

496
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: I can't stand to hear it. Here's the thing, because

497
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: I have a new book coming on a week and

498
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: a half and I write about this. If I ever

499
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: listened to something that I've done a year or two

500
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: years ago or farther and I'm not embarrassed of it, it

501
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: it means I'm not growing. You should always be embarrassed

502
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you've done. That's like a good

503
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: that's like I've never heard it put that way. And

504
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: then when you are have the realization that, oh, this

505
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: is normal because I feel like I'm going in a

506
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: different direction. I'm growing a bit. So it's okay to

507
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: feel that way because you're doing that. That's good. That's

508
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: growth because you're moving. Yeah. No, like I I look

509
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: back and I didn't do that, you know, that flip

510
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: I do with my voice. I couldn't even barely do that.

511
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: And I remember that's the first time when my dad

512
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: and I were recording that in the basement. Um, I

513
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: did that, like flip things with my voice accidentally. Um yeah.

514
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: It was like, uh, yeah, we should up you know,

515
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: the flip or whatever. Exactly, Yeah, yeah, exactly. So so

516
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: I did that when we were recording and Dad's like, whoa,

517
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: that was cool. How did you do that? I was like,

518
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. So that's like how I started doing that,

519
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: and that was the beginning of it. And wow, I

520
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: don't like listening to that. That's good though. But are

521
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: you playing that song though? When you play, yes, you

522
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: have to I do because I got to sell those

523
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: years and it's your song. It's a it's a your song,

524
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: and it's had exposure and I've got a story, you know,

525
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: I have a whole story behind that song. So how's

526
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: home feel? Are they happy for you? So happy for me?

527
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't you know, been home since the

528
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: hometown visit. I'm sure it'll be a lot different because

529
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: you know, they're just not cameras, you know, it's not

530
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: like a big thing anymore. But um, but yeah, I'm

531
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 1: really excited to get home and see my friends and

532
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: family and just my dog. I haven't seen my dog

533
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: since like April. Really, yeah, do you have people that

534
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: really weren't your friends? It's not kind of your friends

535
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: but not really kind of like what a best friend. Yeah,

536
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: So it's interesting and family and family members too that

537
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: all of a sudden want to be want to be

538
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: part of everything again. And I had a lot of

539
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: cousins and I never knew when I first started to

540
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: make it, like, oh, were cousins. I just looked at

541
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: three and we're like nine cousins. What I know? And

542
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: it's like, no, you know, everyone knows what you're doing.

543
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: But it's also funny because at the very beginning of

544
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: the season, Um, nobody thought there were you know, there

545
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: were people who definitely thought I couldn't even make it

546
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: past the first round. And I found online they had

547
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: liked some comments that were like a guy that, and

548
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: you know, they had written some bad like rude things

549
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: like oh, Maddie, you know you should have went to

550
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: school with her. She was a constantly singing. It was

551
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: so annoying I'm so glad I moved away. Like this

552
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: girl wrote this and all a bunch of her friends

553
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: liked it. Well, then a bunch of those friends ended

554
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: up in my in my messages saying like congratulations, Maddie,

555
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: and I'm just like open not reply, like I know,

556
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: I see everything. People that win the lottery and all

557
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, all the family members are

558
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: yeah people. People think they're being like discreet about this,

559
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: and I see everything. So what are you gonna do

560
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: from here? Musical? Because here's the question that comes to

561
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: me the most. What where where does she go? Like?

562
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: What is she gonna do? What? What? Format? For lack

563
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: of a better term, because I'm not a big believer

564
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: in formats except for the business side of it, meaning

565
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, even what I do, and I'm on you know,

566
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty country radio stations. I'm not the

567
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 1: most country guy. I grew up in Arkansas, but look

568
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: at me. I'm a nerd. So I'm the I'm the

569
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: one that believes you can cross all the genres. I

570
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: play hip hop on my country morning show, so I'm

571
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: not the person to tell you have to pick a genre,

572
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: but everyone else is going to say, you have to

573
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: pick a genre of format to actually distribute your music.

574
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: So where does that fall for you? Do you know? Yet?

575
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: You know? Well, this is crazy first of all, because

576
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: I remember before before auditions had or no, it was

577
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: like in the middle, I was still at home and

578
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: someone had tweeted like, oh my gosh, Bobby Bones just

579
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: mentioned you on his radio show, and I listened to it.

580
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: I was like, no way, And now I'm here, that's

581
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of my house. I know. I'm like anyways,

582
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: um no, But I think for the genre thing, I

583
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: kind of want to be. I mean, I don't want

584
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: to be pop. I know that I don't want to

585
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: be popping. Okay, let me ask a question about that,

586
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: because pop only means popular, Like, think about the word pop.

587
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: What the heck is that really true? Yes, pop means popular,

588
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: that's what that. Okay. I thought, you're a very smart person.

589
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 1: I am so smart. You don't assign pop with just

590
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: Brittney Spears. That's what I've always done. Okay, I'm saying

591
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: modern pop kind of okay, the modern pop sounds. Don't

592
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: want that, don't ever want to have to play with

593
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: the track, don't ever want dancers on my stage. Okay,

594
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: dancers are one thing. I think you've given tracks a

595
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: bad name. I can't know. I'm gonna tell you why,

596
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: only because I have some friends that are fantastic artist

597
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: that I believe the computer is also an instrument at

598
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: this point, I really do. Now. I'm a singer songwriter

599
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: fan first and foremost, and I've had to be converted.

600
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: But I do believe the computer is an instrument. I

601
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: know it can add, but I can't do it. I

602
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: can't tell it. I'm sorry. I'm gonna have to disagree.

603
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: I love it that you disagree, always disagree to. I

604
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: love that because you've always disagreed, You've always agreed to.

605
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: Like your opinions. Now, okay, so you're not pop whatever

606
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 1: that means. But pop right now, pops, hip hop, pops,

607
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: adele pop just means popular. So you have to eliminate.

608
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be pop. You can say I'm not

609
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: gonna play tracks. I'm not gonna put twenty one Savage

610
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: on my song like you can say all that. Yeah, No,

611
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean I when I write it like comes out

612
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: like Ingered Michaelson, Regina Specter kind of feel I wish

613
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: I could write more like Brandy Carlyle. Um, but you

614
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: know how you write more like Brandy Carlyle. You write

615
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: with people that write with Brandy Carlisle. Yeah absolutely, I know.

616
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so, um, I mean, but here's the thing.

617
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like usually I would feel like

618
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: lost in a time like this, but I have such

619
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: good people around me, Like I'm I've got like a

620
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: manager now, and you know, I'm with this label and

621
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: everyone around me. I was really scared, like, um, you

622
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: know what, you know, if I was scared, people are

623
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: going to try and change me. Um. And of course,

624
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: you know, they pitched me songs that are are our

625
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: pop and I'm like that's not really me. But they're

626
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: cool with it, you know. And and everyone is really

627
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: supportive of like who I want to be and what

628
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: I want to do, and so who do you want

629
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: to be? What do you want to do? Though? I mean,

630
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: I want to continue to do exactly what I was

631
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: doing on the show, I mean, because just I want

632
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: to be true to myself and even if that means,

633
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to do everything for like

634
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: just the money. Oh, this song is gonna be a hit,

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Speaker 1: so you gotta record it, you know, and I believe you.

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Speaker 1: And here's the truth of it. There's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of money if that's what you're doing. And

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Speaker 1: so if you find your passion and you work toward

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Speaker 1: it and you work hard, the money might come. Worst

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Speaker 1: case scenario is you don't make any money, but you

641
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Speaker 1: still do what you love. That's the worst case scenario exactly.

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Speaker 1: So as long as you know, we're also in the

643
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Speaker 1: land of streaming, which means people are finding different audience.

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Speaker 1: It is just by going, let me check this playlist,

645
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Speaker 1: let me so there is more for an artist like you.

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Speaker 1: Now it's slower. It's slower. I am someone who would

647
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Speaker 1: find your music and go, oh, this is mine jam,

648
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go watch. She's coming time. I'm gonna go watch.

649
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Speaker 1: That's what I would do. But it's different than to

650
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Speaker 1: keep put on the radio like bam yeah boom uh.

651
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Speaker 1: Post Malone had one song selling that arenas absolutely put

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Speaker 1: out a record. Now, it's great. But as as long

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Speaker 1: as you're consistent, if that's really how you feel, they're

654
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Speaker 1: gonna people tell you you got to change. You know,

655
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Speaker 1: I get that. I totally get that because I know

656
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Speaker 1: that's not what's gonna be on pop radio and that's

657
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Speaker 1: you know. But I mean I love people like Sarah

658
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: Barellas and Brandy Carlyle and they're not on pop radio.

659
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: But that is my all the time. But that's like

660
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Speaker 1: my music that I listened to. And I know that

661
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Speaker 1: people will love you know. I mean obviously they loved

662
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Speaker 1: me enough to yeah some through. I think you're great.

663
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Speaker 1: I think you're You're the singer songwriter person that when

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Speaker 1: I take a bath, put the candles on, put my

665
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: singer songwriters on. Just playing the songs, you know what

666
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean, just playing my songs. I'm a big fan. Um, okay,

667
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Speaker 1: so you have you don't have an answer yet, and

668
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: what what you're defined? Ask? No, but I want to

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Speaker 1: be everything. Yeah, when you're trying to be everything, you're

670
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: nothing to anyone. I know, So you don't have to

671
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Speaker 1: you don't want to pick now. I just wanted to

672
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: because everybody's asking me. I just want to answer. I'm

673
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: just gonna try. I'm just gonna do what I like.

674
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Speaker 1: That's my answer. Okay, I'll accept whatever answer you give me.

675
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I'm getting beat up about it.

676
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: I need an answer. They're like, what's Maddie doing I

677
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm gona talked to her. I try to

678
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: hit her on instagramtion we're playing my message because then

679
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: accept messages. So well, listen, I'm very happy for you.

680
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Speaker 1: Thank you, like genuinely I'm happy. I think you're a

681
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: great artist to win it, because I think it sets

682
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: the culture for people that watch the show to go, oh,

683
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: Maddie Poppy one and she's a singer songwriter, and I

684
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: can go be a singer songwriter on that show. And

685
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: I think that's a strong thing. And I was never

686
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Speaker 1: the obvious front runner, you know. Yeah, I don't think

687
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: you were the front So I think that's really cool too,

688
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: is that I was never who anyone expected to win.

689
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I didn't ever think that I could win this because

690
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Speaker 1: you don't think you're gonna win the top three, Like

691
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Speaker 1: you genuinely looked me in the eyes, you like, I'm

692
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Speaker 1: a top three? What can I even wish for? And

693
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Speaker 1: I believed you, and I don't believe anybody. Yeah, I mean,

694
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Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm saying, is is like I was

695
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Speaker 1: never like the number one thing anybody was talking about. Yeah. No,

696
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: I've never been the number one anything anything, you want

697
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Speaker 1: to ask Maddie before we we split away. I mean,

698
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's pretty crazy, like like a whole

699
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: was how long was it? The whole American Idol process?

700
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Speaker 1: When did you guys start? Like so I started October four,

701
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Speaker 1: and um, and then I know, I mean I started

702
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: August twenty nine, that my initial audition. Then September where

703
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: leventh was my second audition, and then October four was

704
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: my judge round. And then January one was the first

705
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: day of Hollywood Week, and then March three we got

706
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: our March fourth we got sent home. April nine, we

707
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: came back out here, and I have not been back

708
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: since since April ninth. How do you know all those dates?

709
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: Is that just the thing for you? I don't know,

710
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: that's weird. I just do. I just remember, like because

711
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: I remember like getting the email saying this is the

712
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: day you're coming back, and like that was just the

713
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: day that I remember, my guess, and plus I met

714
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: Caleb the first week off, and and like I remember

715
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: like January twenty one this way, like first, where are

716
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: you gonna move? Are you gonna because you can live

717
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: in Nashville and not be country. It's just singer songwriter Galore.

718
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean it is. I mean a lot of the

719
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Speaker 1: songwriters here aren't country. They just helped country artists. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like l A enough, but I mean

721
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Speaker 1: even just being here for like the past like five hours,

722
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: people have been sown night everywhere. I mean, and just

723
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it's more of like a Midwest feel here,

724
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: and you're closer to home, way closer to home, Like

725
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: I could you know, and I don't. I don't know.

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00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: There's just something about here. It's a great town. Cool.

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00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: This is not my hometown, but it's a great town,

728
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: especially for people that like to make real music, not

729
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: find a melody then write the words later, Like, oh

730
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: we got the melody, we have a hit. We'll worry

731
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: about the words later. That happens a lot in the

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Speaker 1: l A Rights. That is happening. But I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna do my radio people? You listen to

734
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Speaker 1: this months later, but you're doing my radio shop tomorrow.

735
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: Then we're doing a deal with Luke. Then we're we've

736
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: got like four days that we're gonna be doing things together.

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00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: Well like well, like it's new. Every time I'll be like, yeah,

738
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Speaker 1: really we'll be like, I haven't seen you in six hours.

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Speaker 1: Maddie Poppy, Episode one three, thanks to life Flock. Listen,

740
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: let me say this, download or stream. Don't ever let

741
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: your children grow up, because that's where Maddie is gonna

742
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: make a couple of cents. Yeah, needney guys and merch

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Speaker 1: and dot com Maddie Poppy dot com, M A D

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Speaker 1: D I E P O P P E P O

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Speaker 1: p P any times I called you Maddi Pope. Just

746
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: reading that name a lot, Oh my gosh, everything I know,

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00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: I know, all right, Maddy Poppy Episode one, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much and we'll see you next time. By Ready